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CHEATING!!!????

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont remember using the f word during my wedding

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

TAKE COVER!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My high horse is having a rest today so i'm out on this thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Couples that swing and christianity dont go hand in hand lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention. "

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

I can't comment I'm not married.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Don't remember saying anything like that at my wedding

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By *wo4FemCouple  over a year ago

Birmingham

Well we will have a good time on our way to hell

Mrs2

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

Vowels?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. "

That's called adultery isn't it? Yep, you can deffo get devorced for that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Vowels?"

I'll have a consonant please Carol.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

Registry office.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. "

Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

Another vowel for me please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else.

Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" "

Haha well done

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else.

Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" "

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

You're assuming an 'english' Christian marriage?

Others are available......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. "

That's divorce. Not annulment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You can only get your marriage annulled if you don't consummate the marriage

There are other reasons to get a marriage annulled too. Having sex with others is not one of them.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Vowels?"

To be fair, taking all the vowels would change their vows somewhat.

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

So you don't agree with it as it seems you are looking to troll (in my eyes) yet you are also looking for couples, I can see a bit of hypocrisy to this thread

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Registry office."

Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well thw award for most pointless thread goes to....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Registry office.

Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too "

I'll have an E please Bob!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Seems like an odd thing to get uppity about on a swingers site.

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By *04 error wife not foundMan  over a year ago

Plymouth

We actually specifically picked the vows that didn't mention infidelity, can't have god getting all pissy at us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Billy Connolly arrives singing D.I.V.O.R.C.E

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Registry office.

Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too

I'll have an E please Bob! "

I'd rather give you the 'D'

Yes, I went there....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Registry office.

Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too

I'll have an E please Bob!

I'd rather give you the 'D'

Yes, I went there.... "

Hahaha

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster

Some people write their own vows and therefore don't promise to "forsake all others"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dont remember using the f word during my wedding "

I only started using it after.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Guys I asked an honest question. What has this got anything to do with me and my profile.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating."

What's her profile

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By *uncan LynnCouple  over a year ago

Kilmarnock

Your profile is lovely and appeals to married couples nd woman

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It didn't say in our marriage vows that we wouldn't have sex with anyone else.

Mrs

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By *hell and jWoman  over a year ago

Worksop

I didn't say I wud fukk no other but I do not do it behind hubby back he prefers in front as he loves his WIFE TO FUKK others complete honesty through out xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Your profile is lovely and appeals to married couples nd woman "

Thank you your profile is nice too. I like it. X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating.

What's her profile "

I'm not saying and not getting involved as he's a good guy and when karma opens a can of wup ass in her I will be ok with my clear mind as I didn't meet her when she asked me too.

it's bad enough knowing what she's doing so I'm not getting involved at all.

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By *hell and jWoman  over a year ago

Worksop

I didn't say I wud fukk no other but I do not do it behind hubby back he prefers in front as he loves his WIFE TO FUKK others complete honesty through out xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It didn't say in our marriage vows that we wouldn't have sex with anyone else.

Mrs"

Well I didn't interpret our vows like that. 'Forsaking all others I thought meant putting each other before others', so obviously cheating would be breaking our vows.

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By *VK_RugbyCouple  over a year ago

Rugby

What a load of twaddle

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Someone's obviously feeling bo_ed tonight

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is the reason I will never get married

I won't hurt anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Agree with another poster...a couple fucking with each other's full knowledge is not cheating...it is fun!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions.

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By *omaMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

would those vowels be the same ones I learned at school?

a,e,i,o and u ?

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By *eifer2010Man  over a year ago

Poole

I'm pretty sure the vows are love, cherish and obey. So if I tell her I really want to see her arse riding up and and down on that guy and she obeys...I'm pretty sure that means she's fulfilling her vows as a good wife.

If certain marriages are fragile enough that having another cock in her means you don't love her anymore you probably should avoid getting married!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not one of us are pure in here it's a swingers site ffs look at the reality of things.

I would not meet her as I sort of know her hubby but if someone wants extra fun then who are any of us to judge?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman  over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor


"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating.

What's her profile

I'm not saying and not getting involved as he's a good guy and when karma opens a can of wup ass in her I will be ok with my clear mind as I didn't meet her when she asked me too.

it's bad enough knowing what she's doing so I'm not getting involved at all."

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By *urvymamaWoman  over a year ago

Doncaster


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. "

Again not everyone publicly vows to be just for each other

I attended a wedding of two swinging friends and they had lines in their vows about swinging

You can actually swing while making a commitment to the other person not that you clearly understand that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. "

Being married makes things so much easier when you have kids. Hubby and I were happy together not being married. We're happy together being married and doing what we do. I'm not one for over analysing and don't care what others think about married people having sex with others. We don't have a problem with it.

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By *arry247Couple  over a year ago

Wakefield


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

We didn't make any vows to keep ourselves only for each other etc.

You must be watching too many phoney weddings on TV

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Agree with another poster...a couple fucking with each other's full knowledge is not cheating...it is fun!!!! "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. "

Vowels or vows?

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By *ophie199Couple  over a year ago

Leeds

Fucking love breaking them all. Rules are made to be broken.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. "

That's not really what you asked originally.

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By *illy banterMan  over a year ago

chelmsley wood

Fuuucking hell. ...u r brave op...even I'm gonna get me tin hat on watch this one lmao

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions. "

They're saying they're a unit, publicly declaring that they're together. The terms of that togetherness are private and individual to them.

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By *exyspecs and supermanCouple  over a year ago

A house, a very big house in the country


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

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By *exyspecs and supermanCouple  over a year ago

A house, a very big house in the country


"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE "

Oh it most certainly does.

Hope you bought cake too Op

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well we will have a good time on our way to hell

Mrs2 "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Fucking love breaking them all. Rules are made to be broken. "

fair enough

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions.

That's not really what you asked originally. "

That's what I originally meant. Due to the confusion some are having to grasp it I thought I should clarify myself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions.

They're saying they're a unit, publicly declaring that they're together. The terms of that togetherness are private and individual to them."

Exactly. We're a unit, a 2 person army against the rest of this messed up world.

Yes, we fuck others, but if anybody tries to get between us...

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE "

Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on

Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions.

That's not really what you asked originally.

That's what I originally meant. Due to the confusion some are having to grasp it I thought I should clarify myself. "

Communication works both ways fella

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE

Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on

Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite "

Hehe I take you have not read the thread. I'm asking for honest informed opinions of others. I NEVER SAID I'M BETTER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.

You calling others a hypocrite doesn't that make you a hypocrite yourself?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"That's the thing becuase of two people are getting married whether at church or the registry office. They publicly saying that we're happy with what we have add two we don't want anyone else. If not why get married why not just stay partners.

I'm in no way saying I'm the better person. Just want to hear others honest well informed opinions.

They're saying they're a unit, publicly declaring that they're together. The terms of that togetherness are private and individual to them.

Exactly. We're a unit, a 2 person army against the rest of this messed up world.

Yes, we fuck others, but if anybody tries to get between us... "

I think this is what a lot of people fail to understand. I also think that often sex is confused with love.

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen


"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE

Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on

Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite

Hehe I take you have not read the thread. I'm asking for honest informed opinions of others. I NEVER SAID I'M BETTER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.

You calling others a hypocrite doesn't that make you a hypocrite yourself? "

You started the thread with the purpose of trolling, and yes I have read the thread, have you? Oh wait, shit you started it......why are you here if you even had to start a thread to question it all? Never mind meet couples, your starting to look like a bit of an idiot in my opinion

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do"

Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

Ok don't get personal.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do"

To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc.

Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising"

How does one even speak without vowels?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc.

Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. "

People have responded with well thought out and calm answers. But you're only responding to the posts attacking you. I may be unfair with this, but that does suggest an agenda.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc.

Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. "

There are no set rules. Couple decide what they want to do without the need for anyone telling them what they should do or how people interpret their marriage vows.

As I say, your opening post is not unusual but always makes me wonder why people who think that way are on here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Vowels?"

Haha yeah I know, marriages end because of bad grammar, didn't you know that? Pmsl

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice. "

Can I ask didn't understand what?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc.

Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. "

There's only two rules that apply to everyone in our opinion. Respect. Consent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice.

Can I ask didn't understand what?"

We were in our early 20s, so didn't understand a lot of things. Terms like full swap, soft swap etc. How to approach people.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice.

Can I ask didn't understand what?

We were in our early 20s, so didn't understand a lot of things. Terms like full swap, soft swap etc. How to approach people. "

Ah right, I meant more the concept of it and why couples like to swing more then the mechanics of it.

We were in our 40's before we started on sites like these and didn't know all the terms either

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By *inkywife1981Couple  over a year ago

A town near you

I imagine couples who swing have healthier relationships as they are open and honest with each other

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Those wedding vowels are a bugger..

Better than the christening consonants though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

Hmmm, it depends. When we first got into swinging we didn't fully understand it. But fortunately we had the social skills to politely ask people on the scene for advice.

Can I ask didn't understand what?

We were in our early 20s, so didn't understand a lot of things. Terms like full swap, soft swap etc. How to approach people.

Ah right, I meant more the concept of it and why couples like to swing more then the mechanics of it.

We were in our 40's before we started on sites like these and didn't know all the terms either "

Yes, sorry, it's that time of the day where my brain is slowing down. I guess we had a fantasy view of it and were actually quite surprised by the amount of couples in the scene. We were unicorn hunters who quickly adapted.

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By *anDare70Man  over a year ago

kirkby


" But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

Actually if you take the traditional Christian marriage vow sex with others isn't mentioned in the vow.

Look

‘I, (name), take you, (name)

to be my wife/husband,

to have and to hold

from this day forward;

for better, for worse,

for richer, for poorer,

in sickness and in health,

to love and to cherish,

till death us do part,

according to God’s holy law.

In the presence of God I make this vow.’

So your arguement if flawed from the start in Christian marriages.

Sex with others i.e. Adulterous behaviour is grounds for divorce under unreasonable behaviour but only if the other person cites it.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity!

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


" But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage?

Actually if you take the traditional Christian marriage vow sex with others isn't mentioned in the vow.

Look

‘I, (name), take you, (name)

to be my wife/husband,

to have and to hold

from this day forward;

for better, for worse,

for richer, for poorer,

in sickness and in health,

to love and to cherish,

till death us do part,

according to God’s holy law.

In the presence of God I make this vow.’

So your arguement if flawed from the start in Christian marriages.

Sex with others i.e. Adulterous behaviour is grounds for divorce under unreasonable behaviour but only if the other person cites it. "

You missed out this bit:

"N, will you take N to be your wife?

Will you love her, comfort her, honour and protect her,

and, forsaking all others,

be faithful to her as long as you both shall live?"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! "

I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

Damn I wanted to say this

I hate grammar police but even I am having an anxiety attack reading this thread x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else.

Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" "

Hehe you just won the Internet for today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Registry office.

Yep, wrote our own 'vowels' too

I'll have an E please Bob! "

No drugs on the premises please ....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I know a lot of married couples try to beat the countdown clock but don't bring vowels into it as its making me inconsenant with laughter

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By *ishopstippleMan  over a year ago

Purley

Today's Knight goes to ...

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By *andVCouple  over a year ago

Doncaster


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

Nope, lots of love and cherishing, forsaking all others, being true to one another! Nothing about fucking other people whith your partners consent. Not gonna go into a 50 page argument lol but there's a huge difference between swinging and cheating.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity!

I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better. "

Oh I agree there are different types of fidelity and different perspectives on the 'contract' - legal, moral, religious etc. Swinging is not betraying trust so is very different from cheating, but the marriage vows do concern sexual fidelity.

If I were a swinger getting married I would adjust my vows accordingly. Marriage is about commitment primarily IMO.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. "

I only kept my consonants. I blame Carol Vorderman. That must be where it all went wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity! "

I doubt it especially if they were aware and were present when the sex took place between their partner and someone else. I suppose they could say they were coerced into swinging which could maybe be grounds under unreasonable behaviour?

I'll have to ask a judge

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By *i_edhandMan  over a year ago

Manchester

I decided against vowels at my wedding. Ended up with a couple of VWs

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By *ofia2014Woman  over a year ago

Galashiels

Am in my air raid shelter for this one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's vows not vowels???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That's the problem on here... people are consonantly judging others.... pity we couldn't all vowel to be nice

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

We had a civil service, so no, we didn't.

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By *lik and PaulCouple  over a year ago

cahoots


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else.

Most people get divorced due to the "consonant" pressure to keep their "vowels" "

Wonderfully put

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE

Start a trolling thread be prepa_ed for every police going if you think you are above every appease, then carry on

Oh and stop meeting couples would help your cause at quoting peoples wedding vows if you don't agree with them and stop being a bloody hypocrite

Hehe I take you have not read the thread. I'm asking for honest informed opinions of others. I NEVER SAID I'M BETTER IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM.

You calling others a hypocrite doesn't that make you a hypocrite yourself?

You started the thread with the purpose of trolling, and yes I have read the thread, have you? Oh wait, shit you started it......why are you here if you even had to start a thread to question it all? Never mind meet couples, your starting to look like a bit of an idiot in my opinion "

He isn't TROLLING at all. He asked a question and just because you can't answer or won't answer your calling him an idiot . You are the TROLL

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All cheating cunts long live us all

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Hehe maybe so I do understand that this days there's no such thing a conventional wedding or marriage. Everyone just does what seems good to them.

I DIDN'T KNOW FABS CUMS WITH GRAMMAR POLICE "

You are right there. People can put what they want in their vows now and why is it bothering you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

All cheating cunts long live us all

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"All cheating cunts long live us all"

Amen

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

2nd that ....have a feckihg good time along the way .. it's a swingers site ??

Or did I log onto Nuns .com .. ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Consentual swinging is not cheating.

As an atheist, my marriage vows were to the tax man, and they don't care who we fuck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating."

How do you know for sure that he doesn't know? He could be cuckold or she could be taking pics to share when he gets home.

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By *homasP80Man  over a year ago

Linwood


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

Put U and I together

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage?

Actually if you take the traditional Christian marriage vow sex with others isn't mentioned in the vow.

Look

‘I, (name), take you, (name)

to be my wife/husband,

to have and to hold

from this day forward;

for better, for worse,

for richer, for poorer,

in sickness and in health,

to love and to cherish,

till death us do part,

according to God’s holy law.

In the presence of God I make this vow.’

So your arguement if flawed from the start in Christian marriages.

Sex with others i.e. Adulterous behaviour is grounds for divorce under unreasonable behaviour but only if the other person cites it.

You missed out this bit:

"N, will you take N to be your wife?

Will you love her, comfort her, honour and protect her,

and, forsaking all others,

be faithful to her as long as you both shall live?""

OP I think you got maybe 4 or 5 intelligent answers. It's a good question. Weird how so many couldn't understand.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating."

Do you feel good about slut shaking her on a forum thread that she doesn't know about?

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By *weetChariotMan  over a year ago

High Wycombe

Male penis is designed, look at the head shape, to pump spunk out while shooting replacement spunk in ... We have evolved over millions of years to procreate in a gangbang world. Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I often wonder to myself why anyone would join a swinging site when they clearly don't understand / approve of what swinging couples do

To be honest I don't think many fully understand the rules of swinging if they are any keep changing all the time. I mean it's almost as if it's got it's own culture language etc.

Hence I asked an honest question to see what the couple's think. That's all nothing to do with me, my profile or who I fuck. Who am I to tell anyone what to do. "

there are rules? who wrote them? is there a handbook we have to get? nobody told us when we signed up that we have to obey any rules...

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By *eADevilCouple  over a year ago

Blantyre

Us married couples have it made . Guys like you who judge others just dont get it. We are in a relationship, happy and having fun . When we want more fun we have our pick of single guys like u to use then kick out. Vows lol

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By *iggles and BeardyCouple  over a year ago

Bristol

Ok as much as I got used to spelling police on fabs, no flicker told us our marriage could get cancelled if we didn't use the correct vowels.

We made no such pledge at our wedding btw

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By *carlettxWoman  over a year ago

Essex


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

As far as I remember when I got married in '96 I thought the vows were 'be faithful to each other' now I ended my marriage because I fell out of love but never touched another man

However I am now with someone and we are swingers .... we plan to get married and he likes to see me with another guy

I'm still being faithful to him because it's with his consent and not behind his back

Cheating is without your partner knowing and you don't need to be married to ge a cheat

Big difference

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

no mention of not fucking others in our wedding vowels! so i dont care what anyone says if your married and swinging with consent of your partner or together its not cheating, adult fun simple, and i say good luck to us married swingers. enjoying each others love and having a side kick aswell bonus.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Vowels?

To be fair, taking all the vowels would change their vows somewhat."

That would make them vws?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, "

Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them,

Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up. "

I don't think I do!

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By *eADevilCouple  over a year ago

Blantyre


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them,

Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up.

I don't think I do! "

Im with nicecouple on this one . We all follow made up rules . Do you wash your dishes after dinner or buy new plates . There are lots of social rules. But i do agree religion is all made up rules that you can choose to follow or not . Religion is take it or leave it .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, "
Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

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By *anillaguyMan  over a year ago

Kingston


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

Love it

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By *anillaguyMan  over a year ago

Kingston


"That's the problem on here... people are consonantly judging others.... pity we couldn't all vowel to be nice "

Another classic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"2nd that ....have a feckihg good time along the way .. it's a swingers site ??

Or did I log onto Nuns .com .. ? "

They're the worst, so many dirty habits

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol."

Xmas is about Santa, not religion

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them,

Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up.

I don't think I do! "

Ok. I do though. I've got a set of rules I try to live by that I made up or that I pinched from someone else who had made them up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "

We never took any vowels. But if these were offe_ed, then I'll have an 'i', please

- Mrs. J -

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion "
It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Both my now ex husband's cheated. One with women and one with men. Reason i got rid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity!

I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better.

Oh I agree there are different types of fidelity and different perspectives on the 'contract' - legal, moral, religious etc. Swinging is not betraying trust so is very different from cheating, but the marriage vows do concern sexual fidelity.

If I were a swinger getting married I would adjust my vows accordingly. Marriage is about commitment primarily IMO."

You are one hell of a smart woman. It's funny that most people seem not to understand or are choosing to ignore the op's point. If you are a swinger, then you are going against present societal norms regarding marriage. You could say no one is getting hurt as long as there is mutual consent but there are people including psychologist and marriage counsellors who would argue otherwise. As such the high horse taken against married people swinging alone by so many often smacks of hypocrisy - as you are almost never aware of the entirety of a person's circumstance - and is what sparks such posts as the op's!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ "

Wasn't he born in September?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Religion is made up to control people and give people values but I make my own rules always have always will.

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By *edMan  over a year ago

cambridgeshire


"Vowels?

I'll have a consonant please Carol. "

Nowadays you have to ask Rachel to give you one

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ

Wasn't he born in September? "

Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ

Wasn't he born in September?

Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol "
It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lol well said

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ

Wasn't he born in September?

Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas

It's actually traditional to celebrate Yule on December the 25th, the pagan celebration which Christianity stole in order to assist in conversion of the masses to better affect control

As above, Jesus was a person, his birthday was in September.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ

Wasn't he born in September?

Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas

It's actually traditional to celebrate Yule on December the 25th, the pagan celebration which Christianity stole in order to assist in conversion of the masses to better affect control

As above, Jesus was a person, his birthday was in September.

"
It is actually only anglo saxon countries that have it on the 25th, rest of the world and europe have it on the 24th

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By *loswingersCouple  over a year ago

Gloucester


"You can only get your marriage annulled if you don't consummate the marriage

There are other reasons to get a marriage annulled too. Having sex with others is not one of them."

This is true .

And as I have said , when the sex goes out of a marriage for any reason other than ill health , it should be a reason to seek divorce . If that's what you want of course .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yup, cheating bastards we both are. Took our vows in a church (it was pretty!). If we burn in hell at least we'll have had fun TOGETHER getting there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We only got married in a church because it was cheaper, closer and could hold more people. All the "god" stuff was said with crossed fingers. We haven't been struck by lightning yet, nor has any kind of plague descended upon us

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By *teve261970Man  over a year ago

Gateshead


"No. Marriage can't be annulled for the reasons you mention.

What do you mean? I have read and heard that many marriages have ended becuase one failed to keep their vowels and went and slept with someone else. "

Surely it's not hard to remember A,E,I,O & U. Bit excessive ending a marriage on grammatical grounds lmao

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ

Wasn't he born in September?

Yes, yes he was.. it's easier to brainwash people if you don't change as much though lol It is the traditionally date to celebrate it on xmas

It's actually traditional to celebrate Yule on December the 25th, the pagan celebration which Christianity stole in order to assist in conversion of the masses to better affect control

As above, Jesus was a person, his birthday was in September.

It is actually only anglo saxon countries that have it on the 25th, rest of the world and europe have it on the 24th "

Proving the point about fitting their story to preset traditions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yes, if you make a vow of fidelity you break that vow if you swing - that's axiomatic. If it is unilateral, as in cheating, then yes, I am sure you have broken the marriage contract you made. If it is consensual, as in swinging, I would be interested in the legal position on that - but my guess would be if you have agreed, you have modified your contract by mutual consent, so not broken it. I'd be interested to know the legal position though, out of curiosity!

I couldn't possibly comment about the legal position. But sex with others is simply a physical act. Fidelity is an emotional connection, a vow that we don't break. I'm struggling to explain it better.

Oh I agree there are different types of fidelity and different perspectives on the 'contract' - legal, moral, religious etc. Swinging is not betraying trust so is very different from cheating, but the marriage vows do concern sexual fidelity.

If I were a swinger getting married I would adjust my vows accordingly. Marriage is about commitment primarily IMO.

You are one hell of a smart woman. It's funny that most people seem not to understand or are choosing to ignore the op's point. If you are a swinger, then you are going against present societal norms regarding marriage. You could say no one is getting hurt as long as there is mutual consent but there are people including psychologist and marriage counsellors who would argue otherwise. As such the high horse taken against married people swinging alone by so many often smacks of hypocrisy - as you are almost never aware of the entirety of a person's circumstance - and is what sparks such posts as the op's!"

But what point is the OP making? Myself and others have tried to get him to clarify and he's accused people of being too stupid to understand. Not a great way to maintain an adult discussion.

Funnily enough, I had a discussion with a psychotherapist (I assume that's what you meant, as they're different to a psychologist) and he didn't see the harm as long you were being safe.

And swinging isn't the same as cheating. It's not hypocritical.

Either you get it or you don't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why is a single man so concerned with married people 's relationships on here? That's freaky

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This environment is just a slice of pleasure for those who want to participate.

I saw a couple for a considerable length of time and we all took pleasure from a sexual dalliance. They were madly and deeply in love that is etched on each other's hearts the sex was the same as eating apple pie as in nice to have occasionally very pleasurable but not a staple diet!

I envy them as there was no cheating or deception just great fun in a life that is short!

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By *ilberryMan  over a year ago

Scarborough


"Vowels?

To be fair, taking all the vowels would change their vows somewhat."

That would make it a consonant wedding?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why is a single man so concerned with married people 's relationships on here? That's freaky "

I think when people's experience of fab isn't going well, it's easy to get worked up about other people's experiences. I've been guilty of this myself in the past.

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By *r_BBW_LoverMan  over a year ago

Swindon


"

But what point is the OP making? Myself and others have tried to get him to clarify and he's accused people of being too stupid to understand. Not a great way to maintain an adult discussion.

Funnily enough, I had a discussion with a psychotherapist (I assume that's what you meant, as they're different to a psychologist) and he didn't see the harm as long you were being safe.

And swinging isn't the same as cheating. It's not hypocritical.

Either you get it or you don't. "

I would have liked Op to expand on whatever point was he was trying to make, and to have had a good discussion. I like challenging beliefs - and being challenged.

As he chose not to, I'm going to assume he was just following the Katie Hopkins method of making friends and influencing people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol.

Xmas is about Santa, not religion It is also an annual festival commemorating the birth of jesus christ "

It was being celebrated long before somebody invented Jesus. The Christian thiefs merely took it over. It was a celebration of mid winter. When the days started to get longer again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them, Most cherry pic. I take it you celebrate xmas? lol."

I enjoy the time off work with my family and get them a gift

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"News flash all religion is made up, why would anyone run there lives by a load of made up rules when the people who made them up don't even follow them,

Even people who don't follow a religion run their lives by rules they've made up.

I don't think I do!

Ok. I do though. I've got a set of rules I try to live by that I made up or that I pinched from someone else who had made them up. "

We have rules we have made up (like we only play together) but we don't follow mane stream rules

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By *illupMan  over a year ago

Stoke-on-Trent


"My high horse is having a rest today so i'm out on this thread "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Xmas is about Santa, not religion

"

And Santa only become known thanks to Coca-Cola using him in advertising

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Couples that swing and christianity dont go hand in hand lol."

Love thy neighbor

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why is a single man so concerned with married people 's relationships on here? That's freaky "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Surely cheating is deciving your partner.So how can it be cheating if your partner has full knowledge and enjoys the same lusts as you?

There's a local woman to me that plays the perfect married sweet couple role by night and by day time when her hubby is work she's slowly going through every guy on fab.He has no knowledge she's on here and in the 4mths she's been on fab she's acumulated 20 verifications.

Now that's cheating."

did you tap it pal ?

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By *exyfuncouple-40Couple  over a year ago

Bloxham

If you both consent to swinging that isn't cheating ?

What about working on a Sunday that's a sin as well in churches eye ?

So we all kind of screwed in long run

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But what point is the OP making? Myself and others have tried to get him to clarify and he's accused people of being too stupid to understand. Not a great way to maintain an adult discussion.

Funnily enough, I had a discussion with a psychotherapist (I assume that's what you meant, as they're different to a psychologist) and he didn't see the harm as long you were being safe.

And swinging isn't the same as cheating. It's not hypocritical.

Either you get it or you don't.

I would have liked Op to expand on whatever point was he was trying to make, and to have had a good discussion. I like challenging beliefs - and being challenged.

As he chose not to, I'm going to assume he was just following the Katie Hopkins method of making friends and influencing people "

Oh yes indeed, I don't want to live in an echo chamber. There's aspects of swinging I've sometimes been uncomfortable and it's been good to chat about it on here.

But when somebody is deliberately trying to wind people up, I can't be bothe_ed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have a question to married couples. Do you remember when you took your vowels promising to fuck no one else but your spouse. But if your fucking someone else either together or with the full consent of your spouse doesn't annul your vows and your marriage? "
thou shalt not covenant your brothers wife

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Vowels. Which one. Think you mean VOWS OP .

Bless

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Be careful when you fall off your very high judgemental horse please

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