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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags'" Hiya | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags'" free prostitutes someone said the other day! | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " It never used to bother me. Until I got involved with a married guy. Total nightmare. Won't be making that mistake again | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags'" Very much your last sentence!!! | |||
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"some do ,some don't...surely the best thing would be to put it on your profile so people can make an informed decision, and make sure you read theirs, so you can see if they mention it as well..that would save a lot of time all round." I agree it would be the best thing to do. However when you see the vitriol that can sometimes attract its no wonder some don't bother. | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " Well it's a Swinging site. So obviously people that swing - and understand what swinging is - will take a dim _iew on people cheating. Many people don't understand swinging. Many people don't care if the person they meet is married or not. | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! " So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead | |||
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"some do ,some don't...surely the best thing would be to put it on your profile so people can make an informed decision, and make sure you read theirs, so you can see if they mention it as well..that would save a lot of time all round." | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead" So, is that the same for the many married women on here, as "single" women, who are not getting enough , or none, at home, for whatever reason that.might be? | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead" I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. | |||
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"This isn't a cheaters have no business being on Fab comment. But I do get a bit fed up with all the whinging 'I'm married but my partner doesn't know I'm on here, why do people give me a hard time' threads, usually started by men as women just get on with it. There are loads of websites designed for people who want to cheat, have affairs, I doubt that they are on there whining about people giving them abuse for going behind their partners back. Of course these sites come with a pricey membership/monthly fee and Fab doesn't...... but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it." Whining is pathetic. | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. " Sadly I agree. Certainly with the age range I specify. Do know.about the lads | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. Sadly I agree. Certainly with the age range I specify. Do know.about the lads" Sorry meant to be don't know about the younger guys | |||
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"I hate it totally disrespectful. Yes they all claim Tey have there reasons but it's not something I want to be part of." Me neither | |||
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"Doesn't bother us. " It's not so bad as a couple as you probably wont adopt him as a live in slave. Maybe I would do though! | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. " Do you not think some come to that conclusion from reading certain forums topics, status updates like sex for money, looking at photos, puting 2 & 2 together and coming up with 5 which in general is not a true reflection. | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. Do you not think some come to that conclusion from reading certain forums topics, status updates like sex for money, looking at photos, puting 2 & 2 together and coming up with 5 which in general is not a true reflection." I think most do, yes. I'm not 'blaming' them for coming to that conclusion though. Very few people seem to know what swinging is. Many think it means people will fuck anyone. The explicit pics and 're_iew' style verifications just add to the feeling that profiles are adverts for free sex. Which of course they are to an extent- just not in the way they think. | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. " And the 10th man will offer to pay! =) | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. Do you not think some come to that conclusion from reading certain forums topics, status updates like sex for money, looking at photos, puting 2 & 2 together and coming up with 5 which in general is not a true reflection. I think most do, yes. I'm not 'blaming' them for coming to that conclusion though. Very few people seem to know what swinging is. Many think it means people will fuck anyone. The explicit pics and 're_iew' style verifications just add to the feeling that profiles are adverts for free sex. Which of course they are to an extent- just not in the way they think. " Yeah I agree, you've summarised it better than me | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. Do you not think some come to that conclusion from reading certain forums topics, status updates like sex for money, looking at photos, puting 2 & 2 together and coming up with 5 which in general is not a true reflection. I think most do, yes. I'm not 'blaming' them for coming to that conclusion though. Very few people seem to know what swinging is. Many think it means people will fuck anyone. The explicit pics and 're_iew' style verifications just add to the feeling that profiles are adverts for free sex. Which of course they are to an extent- just not in the way they think. Yeah I agree, you've summarised it better than me " We both did. | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags'" So true....... but there are some (42?) of us actual single guys left! | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " lots do but if it's not for them then it's not. They should leave others to do their own thing in their own lives. It doesn't affect them so no need for them to be concerned | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' free prostitutes someone said the other day!" There was one married guy who actually said in his profile that he wanted to experiment with lots of different things but he was on here because he didn't want to pay by the hour!! Why not just experiment with his wife?? Like has been said, lots of guys think this is a site for free prostitutes to please them. | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " We don't frown on it, but we wouldn't knowingly meet marrieds | |||
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"I don't care as they don't contribute positively or negatively to my experience Good luck to them " Nice to see you around again. | |||
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"I don't care as they don't contribute positively or negatively to my experience Good luck to them Nice to see you around again." Cheers | |||
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"206, no wait, might be 209 " I'm in. That's 210 | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " I don't like it, I always think it's sly | |||
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"I believe that the vast majority of guys on here I chat to -given my age filters - ARE married and the site is rife with cheating.married guys who are getting sod all at home from the wife. Many are on here looking for cheap 'service shags' Very much your last sentence!!! So you've noticed that too!? Just shows how many are out there like that..I often feel like telling them to go get sport newspaper and pay a hooker instead I'd say 9 out of 10 men on here just want free prostitutes. " And those are the 9/10 men who aren't getting meets | |||
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"I don't see why if someone is married or not matters when we are not interested in any relationship, why are women so worried about all these things, that a guy has to bring his partner etc,most guys are not interested in any relationship , me and my girlfriend swing single because we don't want all these rules that might be present in couple swinging, when we get to the party, we split and say enjoy yourself and see you at the end of night." There can be lots of reasons. I don't meet married men because I want to feel good about my experiences here. I make no judgement on them personally but it's not something I'm comfortable getting involved with. Also, a married person (on here without their partners consent) will be generally less available. Trying to get schedules in line to meet a single person can be tricky enough. I also wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of an angry wife should she find out. | |||
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"I don't see why if someone is married or not matters when we are not interested in any relationship, why are women so worried about all these things, that a guy has to bring his partner etc,most guys are not interested in any relationship , me and my girlfriend swing single because we don't want all these rules that might be present in couple swinging, when we get to the party, we split and say enjoy yourself and see you at the end of night." I won't meet men from couples that swing but meet separately. It's an utter turn off. | |||
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"Also we see posts with comments like guys see the site as free prostitutes, the guys are married and cheating etc All these things are bottled in the psychology of a lot of women coming in from the vanilla world where they have been sold they should have some sort of reward for having sex . In the swingers world all these rules do not apply , the women we are interested in are stable women who are here to fuck and these women don't want or need anything from their swinging partners, be it a relationship or otherwise. We guys know that the women here are not free prostitutes and we treat them with the utmost respect, we are really not interested in what they do, we don't care and we don't ask, except they freely tell us , we know the difference when a woman is fucking for fun or fucking for a relationship or otherwise. That is why we stick to the real swingers who are fucking for fun and are freaks in the bed. " Oh my God the Swinging Elite!! *bow* Exactly why I am NOT a Swinger. | |||
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"Also we see posts with comments like guys see the site as free prostitutes, the guys are married and cheating etc All these things are bottled in the psychology of a lot of women coming in from the vanilla world where they have been sold they should have some sort of reward for having sex . In the swingers world all these rules do not apply , the women we are interested in are stable women who are here to fuck and these women don't want or need anything from their swinging partners, be it a relationship or otherwise. We guys know that the women here are not free prostitutes and we treat them with the utmost respect, we are really not interested in what they do, we don't care and we don't ask, except they freely tell us , we know the difference when a woman is fucking for fun or fucking for a relationship or otherwise. That is why we stick to the real swingers who are fucking for fun and are freaks in the bed. Oh my God the Swinging Elite!! *bow* Exactly why I am NOT a Swinger. " Please explain what you mean, I am trying to understand this quote x | |||
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"Obviously the OP is married and playing without permission x" Can't accommodate? Morning meets? I'd say it's highly likely. That's his concern of course - but as for cheaters in general - we wouldn't knowingly meet them. | |||
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"Also we see posts with comments like guys see the site as free prostitutes, the guys are married and cheating etc All these things are bottled in the psychology of a lot of women coming in from the vanilla world where they have been sold they should have some sort of reward for having sex . In the swingers world all these rules do not apply , the women we are interested in are stable women who are here to fuck and these women don't want or need anything from their swinging partners, be it a relationship or otherwise. We guys know that the women here are not free prostitutes and we treat them with the utmost respect, we are really not interested in what they do, we don't care and we don't ask, except they freely tell us , we know the difference when a woman is fucking for fun or fucking for a relationship or otherwise. That is why we stick to the real swingers who are fucking for fun and are freaks in the bed. " that is one of the most patronising,ridiculous things i've ever heard. | |||
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"good on you girl theres no strings they dont take risks and are a 100% discreet, mind you they should share there wife " Why? Women aren't bait for men to use so they can fuck other people! | |||
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"I would back up everything I say with reasons , I can understand if a lady says she does not want to be on the receiving end of an angry wife, this is a fair comment and this line of thought will come from an area like mine where we don't have many clubs, also, it depends on the experience of the swingers involved and how you play it.If you start texting all the time as if you have a relationship then this will be the result. My communications are short and straight to the point with the ladies I swing with and If you read them , they don't suggest any kind of relationship. It looks like two friends chatting." When I initially rejoined after a sabbatical about 8 months ago, I got chatting to someone who I used to meet, again. He sent me a veri and I reciprocated. About 3 hours later, I had a message off his girlfriend (she'd set up an account as she'd discovered he was on fab). I found out that he'd been with her when I was meeting him and she'd been pregnant at the time. I had no idea he was in a relationship. I felt really sorry for her and guilty despite not being aware of his relationship status. Causing pain to someone is not why I am on here. It's supposed to be fun. That's why I think it's important for people to be honest about their relationship status. It's not fair to lie to someone to get sex. Some do not like being party to cheating, regardless as to whether it's casual sex or not. | |||
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"It also makes us laugh when people are adamant they won't meet married people, yet in a club will happily play with people without knowing their relationship status. Talk about double standards. People will use the excuse 'knowingly playing' with married people. If people are that bothered then they should avoid clubs as there is no way of knowing anyone's relationship status if just meeting someone for the first time." Guys thank you very much for this quote, you are thinking like me, ladies this is not the vanilla world, forget the vanilla rules here, this is the swinging world where you are free to speak your mind, if you meet a guy and want a relationship in the our swinging world , walk up to him and tell him face to face, "I like you and I would like a relationship, not just sex" if it is possible he will say yes, if not ,he will say no. If no, you move on.If I see a married woman standing with her husband, I will walk up to her and ask to play with her in front of her husband, if yes fine , if no I move on.If yes and I like the sex, I would ask if I could see her regularly. Ladies take advantage of what our swinging world offers you and please drop the vanilla mentality it does not apply here.You can speak you mind here and get all the things you desire, in the vanilla world ladies are silent , here you can speak your mind. | |||
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"Married men bashing thread, yet again. So many narrow minded and judgemental attitudes on here, considering it's a swingers site, people aren't very broad minded. " | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " Loads apparently. I don't worry about someone else's marital status because as far as I'm concerned it's none of my business | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing" Married turns me right off | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing" So what about couples who won't meet people who are attached/married? Are they also not real swingers? Not a dig, just genuinely curious to hear your thoughts on that? | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing" I am here because I don't want a relationship. If I did I'd still be in one. My choice not to meet married men is simply my choice and not a judgement on them. It's a reflection of my own conscience and has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting or expecting any kind of commitment or 'reward' for having sex. | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent I don't like it, I always think it's sly " I try and avoid them if I can | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing" Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing So what about couples who won't meet people who are attached/married? Are they also not real swingers? Not a dig, just genuinely curious to hear your thoughts on that? " Now would such a couple ask every single guy they play with in the club if they are married or not and if the guys say they are single how do the couples verify this on the spot before making their decision to play with them or not based on marital status. In a nutshell it is ok to have a position but it is very clear that position is not viable when you look at it practically, just the same way writing down a business plan shows all the weaknesses in your business idea and saves you wasting energy, time and money. | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing I am here because I don't want a relationship. If I did I'd still be in one. My choice not to meet married men is simply my choice and not a judgement on them. It's a reflection of my own conscience and has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting or expecting any kind of commitment or 'reward' for having sex. " Fair comment babe, you are really intelligent and I accept that position | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent I don't like it, I always think it's sly I try and avoid them if I can" Fair comment babe, I accept that. | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. " Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone"" I don't think you can speak for all swingers | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" I don't think you can speak for all swingers" I am not speaking for all swingers niether am I trying to speak for all swingers I want you to disagree with me because I want to learn , if you disagree please back your position up so we can learn from your line of thought. | |||
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"As a single lady on here that does say I'm playing away I find 99% of men and couples couldn't care less. I've even found when chatting to a couple who have said in there profile won't meet married men but when I say I'm attached they don't care!! Laughable really!! I actually prefer meeting married guys as they are sensible and reliable, not as crazy as other guys. " | |||
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"I don't see why if someone is married or not matters when we are not interested in any relationship, why are women so worried about all these things, that a guy has to bring his partner etc,most guys are not interested in any relationship , me and my girlfriend swing single because we don't want all these rules that might be present in couple swinging, when we get to the party, we split and say enjoy yourself and see you at the end of night." You are fucking single but you are swinging as a couple. That's the difference. You both know and agree the terms of your playing. Swinging is about being open and honest with your partner and having fun. THAT's why some frown upon it. You can say "I don't judge, not my business", but I become a part of their business when the guy sticks his dick in me behind wifey's back. No thanks. | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" I don't think you can speak for all swingers I am not speaking for all swingers niether am I trying to speak for all swingers I want you to disagree with me because I want to learn , if you disagree please back your position up so we can learn from your line of thought." Yes we do ask single people if there single and we will randomly through the question in while just generally chatting. You can tell by there response as you've caught them off guard if there not single they will answer truthful or will stutter and ask what did you say to give them time to answer. The same with couples will ask questions to find out if they are a proper couple. If the people we want to play with turn out to be cheating then no will not play with them. No 1 we do want a angry partner on our case 2nd if they can lie to there partner someone who there meant to love and made a commitment to then they really can't be trusted to be telling the truth to people they just want sex with and really don't have respect for anyone but themselves | |||
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"I don't see why if someone is married or not matters when we are not interested in any relationship, why are women so worried about all these things, that a guy has to bring his partner etc,most guys are not interested in any relationship , me and my girlfriend swing single because we don't want all these rules that might be present in couple swinging, when we get to the party, we split and say enjoy yourself and see you at the end of night. You are fucking single but you are swinging as a couple. That's the difference. You both know and agree the terms of your playing. Swinging is about being open and honest with your partner and having fun. THAT's why some frown upon it. You can say "I don't judge, not my business", but I become a part of their business when the guy sticks his dick in me behind wifey's back. No thanks." That's cool, we are not single, we are in a real life relationship, she is my girlfriend , we just don't like swinging as a couple, its too slow for us and we didn't like it. Swinging single is best for us , she is just too hot and beautiful and she gets a ton of guys going for her, she feels she does not need the permission of another woman to swing and this is her position based on her beauty as would be the case in a couple situation. I accept it. I am very handsome myself and love swinging single, I do very very well with the ladies on my own so much that I give some of the couples in the club to my friends to play because I can't satisfy everybody. I accept your position but my question is , is it practical, I agree people have to be open and honest but in a case where a married guy approaches you in the club and says he is single how do you know on the spot? | |||
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"I would back up everything I say with reasons , I can understand if a lady says she does not want to be on the receiving end of an angry wife, this is a fair comment and this line of thought will come from an area like mine where we don't have many clubs, also, it depends on the experience of the swingers involved and how you play it.If you start texting all the time as if you have a relationship then this will be the result. My communications are short and straight to the point with the ladies I swing with and If you read them , they don't suggest any kind of relationship. It looks like two friends chatting. When I initially rejoined after a sabbatical about 8 months ago, I got chatting to someone who I used to meet, again. He sent me a veri and I reciprocated. About 3 hours later, I had a message off his girlfriend (she'd set up an account as she'd discovered he was on fab). I found out that he'd been with her when I was meeting him and she'd been pregnant at the time. I had no idea he was in a relationship. I felt really sorry for her and guilty despite not being aware of his relationship status. Causing pain to someone is not why I am on here. It's supposed to be fun. That's why I think it's important for people to be honest about their relationship status. It's not fair to lie to someone to get sex. Some do not like being party to cheating, regardless as to whether it's casual sex or not. " this is my point exactly. I would never want anyone to go through the pain of betrayal. Trust is one of the worst things to destroy in anyone | |||
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"I don't see why if someone is married or not matters when we are not interested in any relationship, why are women so worried about all these things, that a guy has to bring his partner etc,most guys are not interested in any relationship , me and my girlfriend swing single because we don't want all these rules that might be present in couple swinging, when we get to the party, we split and say enjoy yourself and see you at the end of night. You are fucking single but you are swinging as a couple. That's the difference. You both know and agree the terms of your playing. Swinging is about being open and honest with your partner and having fun. THAT's why some frown upon it. You can say "I don't judge, not my business", but I become a part of their business when the guy sticks his dick in me behind wifey's back. No thanks. That's cool, we are not single, we are in a real life relationship, she is my girlfriend , we just don't like swinging as a couple, its too slow for us and we didn't like it. Swinging single is best for us , she is just too hot and beautiful and she gets a ton of guys going for her, she feels she does not need the permission of another woman to swing and this is her position based on her beauty as would be the case in a couple situation. I accept it. I am very handsome myself and love swinging single, I do very very well with the ladies on my own so much that I give some of the couples in the club to my friends to play because I can't satisfy everybody. I accept your position but my question is , is it practical, I agree people have to be open and honest but in a case where a married guy approaches you in the club and says he is single how do you know on the spot? " YOU GIVE SOME OF THE COUPLES TO YOUR FRIENDS TO PLAY. I'm sorry since when have other people in clubs been yours to give to others? How insulting does that sound. | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" I don't think you can speak for all swingers I am not speaking for all swingers niether am I trying to speak for all swingers I want you to disagree with me because I want to learn , if you disagree please back your position up so we can learn from your line of thought. Yes we do ask single people if there single and we will randomly through the question in while just generally chatting. You can tell by there response as you've caught them off guard if there not single they will answer truthful or will stutter and ask what did you say to give them time to answer. The same with couples will ask questions to find out if they are a proper couple. If the people we want to play with turn out to be cheating then no will not play with them. No 1 we do want a angry partner on our case 2nd if they can lie to there partner someone who there meant to love and made a commitment to then they really can't be trusted to be telling the truth to people they just want sex with and really don't have respect for anyone but themselves " Fair comment but watching my friends swinging it is impossible to know because these guys will not spend more than 2 minutes talking to you in the club , am talking about guys who when they enter the ladies are already running after them. | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" I don't think you can speak for all swingers I am not speaking for all swingers niether am I trying to speak for all swingers I want you to disagree with me because I want to learn , if you disagree please back your position up so we can learn from your line of thought. Yes we do ask single people if there single and we will randomly through the question in while just generally chatting. You can tell by there response as you've caught them off guard if there not single they will answer truthful or will stutter and ask what did you say to give them time to answer. The same with couples will ask questions to find out if they are a proper couple. If the people we want to play with turn out to be cheating then no will not play with them. No 1 we do want a angry partner on our case 2nd if they can lie to there partner someone who there meant to love and made a commitment to then they really can't be trusted to be telling the truth to people they just want sex with and really don't have respect for anyone but themselves Fair comment but watching my friends swinging it is impossible to know because these guys will not spend more than 2 minutes talking to you in the club , am talking about guys who when they enter the ladies are already running after them." Your comments are just confirming what many have said that guys think swinging is about a easy lay. Us and a lot of swingers we know ( witch is hell of a lot) wouldn't even entertain a guy if he wasn't prepared to sit and chat so it really wouldnt be a issue about him being single or cheating as we wouldn't entertain that type of person anyway | |||
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"I don't see why if someone is married or not matters when we are not interested in any relationship, why are women so worried about all these things, that a guy has to bring his partner etc,most guys are not interested in any relationship , me and my girlfriend swing single because we don't want all these rules that might be present in couple swinging, when we get to the party, we split and say enjoy yourself and see you at the end of night. You are fucking single but you are swinging as a couple. That's the difference. You both know and agree the terms of your playing. Swinging is about being open and honest with your partner and having fun. THAT's why some frown upon it. You can say "I don't judge, not my business", but I become a part of their business when the guy sticks his dick in me behind wifey's back. No thanks. That's cool, we are not single, we are in a real life relationship, she is my girlfriend , we just don't like swinging as a couple, its too slow for us and we didn't like it. Swinging single is best for us , she is just too hot and beautiful and she gets a ton of guys going for her, she feels she does not need the permission of another woman to swing and this is her position based on her beauty as would be the case in a couple situation. I accept it. I am very handsome myself and love swinging single, I do very very well with the ladies on my own so much that I give some of the couples in the club to my friends to play because I can't satisfy everybody. I accept your position but my question is , is it practical, I agree people have to be open and honest but in a case where a married guy approaches you in the club and says he is single how do you know on the spot? YOU GIVE SOME OF THE COUPLES TO YOUR FRIENDS TO PLAY. I'm sorry since when have other people in clubs been yours to give to others? How insulting does that sound. " Please don't read what am saying wrong, as I notice people are quick to read the wrong meaning into statements, what I mean is I introduce them to my friends if I am too busy. | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" I don't think you can speak for all swingers I am not speaking for all swingers niether am I trying to speak for all swingers I want you to disagree with me because I want to learn , if you disagree please back your position up so we can learn from your line of thought. Yes we do ask single people if there single and we will randomly through the question in while just generally chatting. You can tell by there response as you've caught them off guard if there not single they will answer truthful or will stutter and ask what did you say to give them time to answer. The same with couples will ask questions to find out if they are a proper couple. If the people we want to play with turn out to be cheating then no will not play with them. No 1 we do want a angry partner on our case 2nd if they can lie to there partner someone who there meant to love and made a commitment to then they really can't be trusted to be telling the truth to people they just want sex with and really don't have respect for anyone but themselves Fair comment but watching my friends swinging it is impossible to know because these guys will not spend more than 2 minutes talking to you in the club , am talking about guys who when they enter the ladies are already running after them. Your comments are just confirming what many have said that guys think swinging is about a easy lay. Us and a lot of swingers we know ( witch is hell of a lot) wouldn't even entertain a guy if he wasn't prepared to sit and chat so it really wouldnt be a issue about him being single or cheating as we wouldn't entertain that type of person anyway " I don't think swinging is about an easy lay, this is far from the truth,if you watch a my reponses am cool, calm and collected, I don't let anyone frame the narrative in my discussion and I explain exactly what I mean. I am not here to argue with anyone but have a constructive discussion. I have noticed a lot of couples and single girls see single guys as people who would go for anything for a lay, I am not one of those kind of guys, when I approach people I like and I am having a conversation, I have designed the conversation in a way that will tell me if I want to be with them or not and this does not take more than 3 minutes, this is how we swing. If their responses tells me I don't need to be with them I will leave. | |||
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" That's cool, we are not single, we are in a real life relationship, she is my girlfriend , we just don't like swinging as a couple, its too slow for us and we didn't like it. Swinging single is best for us , she is just too hot and beautiful and she gets a ton of guys going for her, she feels she does not need the permission of another woman to swing and this is her position based on her beauty as would be the case in a couple situation. I accept it. I am very handsome myself and love swinging single, I do very very well with the ladies on my own so much that I give some of the couples in the club to my friends to play because I can't satisfy everybody. I accept your position but my question is , is it practical, I agree people have to be open and honest but in a case where a married guy approaches you in the club and says he is single how do you know on the spot? " Hahahaha!!! dude I'm willing to bet you're as single as fuck! | |||
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"In my opinion, the ladies saying they are not interested in the marital status, these are the real swingers , they have no interest in anyone beyond what they are interested in doing Real swingers? So someone who'll put out without conscious or empathy for others? For my mind swinging is ethnically sound. Everyone is open and honest about their doings. Folk who have sex without question are shaggers. Nowt wrong with that, just not swinging. Fair comment babe but I don't agree with that position because its not practical, swingers don't really like asking too many questions beyond the basic necessities.Swinging is ethically sound I agree but its not a relationship beyond what you want it be. My female swinger friends always tell me they are tired of guys being too nice and needy with them, they always say to me" I dont want all these guys being nice and asking me too many questions, just fuck the shit out of me and be gone" I don't think you can speak for all swingers I am not speaking for all swingers niether am I trying to speak for all swingers I want you to disagree with me because I want to learn , if you disagree please back your position up so we can learn from your line of thought. Yes we do ask single people if there single and we will randomly through the question in while just generally chatting. You can tell by there response as you've caught them off guard if there not single they will answer truthful or will stutter and ask what did you say to give them time to answer. The same with couples will ask questions to find out if they are a proper couple. If the people we want to play with turn out to be cheating then no will not play with them. No 1 we do want a angry partner on our case 2nd if they can lie to there partner someone who there meant to love and made a commitment to then they really can't be trusted to be telling the truth to people they just want sex with and really don't have respect for anyone but themselves Fair comment but watching my friends swinging it is impossible to know because these guys will not spend more than 2 minutes talking to you in the club , am talking about guys who when they enter the ladies are already running after them. Your comments are just confirming what many have said that guys think swinging is about a easy lay. Us and a lot of swingers we know ( witch is hell of a lot) wouldn't even entertain a guy if he wasn't prepared to sit and chat so it really wouldnt be a issue about him being single or cheating as we wouldn't entertain that type of person anyway I don't think swinging is about an easy lay, this is far from the truth,if you watch a my reponses am cool, calm and collected, I don't let anyone frame the narrative in my discussion and I explain exactly what I mean. I am not here to argue with anyone but have a constructive discussion. I have noticed a lot of couples and single girls see single guys as people who would go for anything for a lay, I am not one of those kind of guys, when I approach people I like and I am having a conversation, I have designed the conversation in a way that will tell me if I want to be with them or not and this does not take more than 3 minutes, this is how we swing. If their responses tells me I don't need to be with them I will leave." You call 3 mins a conversation lol. So you are just going up to them and only looking to fuck them if they start asking questions or your designed conversation starts to go over 3 mins your out of there moving on to your next target. You will find most people look for more than good looks sense of humour good conversation are just a couple of things. | |||
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" That's cool, we are not single, we are in a real life relationship, she is my girlfriend , we just don't like swinging as a couple, its too slow for us and we didn't like it. Swinging single is best for us , she is just too hot and beautiful and she gets a ton of guys going for her, she feels she does not need the permission of another woman to swing and this is her position based on her beauty as would be the case in a couple situation. I accept it. I am very handsome myself and love swinging single, I do very very well with the ladies on my own so much that I give some of the couples in the club to my friends to play because I can't satisfy everybody. I accept your position but my question is , is it practical, I agree people have to be open and honest but in a case where a married guy approaches you in the club and says he is single how do you know on the spot? Hahahaha!!! dude I'm willing to bet you're as single as fuck! " Lol That's a very easy bet to win, I could invite you to our party and you will meet us yourself and see how we swing , you make up your mind then x | |||
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"I actually like the comments I am getting because my kind of mentality is very strange to a lot women, they have not come across this before , they are used to guys just falling over for them because of their sexuality but I will not. Niether will any of my friends. Guys this is how to think if you want the best and want to be in control of your choices, the moment a womans sexuality is of no effect on you ,you have won.what I mean is, you understand its about you and you are prepared to walk away from them if they don't meet your criteria, while having a conversation with them. This is when you will see clearly and be able to pick the kind of lady you like, their main strenght is your interest in them, turn that down and you will immediately confuse them. They will see it in your conversation and they will be thinking, this guy is talking to me, he is repectful , nice and polite but it is obvious he is not bothered by the outcome of this conversation. I am not responsible for anyones thought, whatever you think is on you . When I say 3 minutes, that is the maximum amount of time I am willing to spend, if I cannot arrive at a destination in that time am gone, cause as I said its about me,my mentality in the club is there are more single girls and couples out there looking for me why should I waste all the time talking to only one set. " Do you use a stopwatch? I'd personally cut that down to 2 mins if I were you,why waste any more of your time when you don't need to. | |||
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"some do ,some don't...surely the best thing would be to put it on your profile so people can make an informed decision, and make sure you read theirs, so you can see if they mention it as well..that would save a lot of time all round." I think the best advice yet | |||
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"How many people frown on people bringing the same old subjects time and time again " Usually the people the subject is about | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol " You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. | |||
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"I actually like the comments I am getting because my kind of mentality is very strange to a lot women, they have not come across this before , they are used to guys just falling over for them because of their sexuality but I will not. Niether will any of my friends. Guys this is how to think if you want the best and want to be in control of your choices, the moment a womans sexuality is of no effect on you ,you have won.what I mean is, you understand its about you and you are prepared to walk away from them if they don't meet your criteria, while having a conversation with them. This is when you will see clearly and be able to pick the kind of lady you like, their main strenght is your interest in them, turn that down and you will immediately confuse them. They will see it in your conversation and they will be thinking, this guy is talking to me, he is repectful , nice and polite but it is obvious he is not bothered by the outcome of this conversation. I am not responsible for anyones thought, whatever you think is on you . When I say 3 minutes, that is the maximum amount of time I am willing to spend, if I cannot arrive at a destination in that time am gone, cause as I said its about me,my mentality in the club is there are more single girls and couples out there looking for me why should I waste all the time talking to only one set. Do you use a stopwatch? I'd personally cut that down to 2 mins if I were you,why waste any more of your time when you don't need to." What I mean is I personally see a lot of value in myself and I am going to walk away from that conversation in that space of time, I am going to close the deal in that space of time regardless of the outcome, it is either am walking to a room with them or am walking away, either way, am walking. If I spend anymore time than that it feels like am selling myself and I don't want that. I want to be the Bentley in the conversation not the Ford. Lol | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. " This discussion is for single guys to learn really , not for everyone and thats because a lot of single guys don't see value in themselves. Let me ask you the question, will you accept your favorite celebrity if he was married and wanted you as his girlfriend? | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. This discussion is for single guys to learn really , not for everyone and thats because a lot of single guys don't see value in themselves. Let me ask you the question, will you accept your favorite celebrity if he was married and wanted you as his girlfriend? " My reply above was not clear enough? Read it again or pass it on to one of your friends. | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. This discussion is for single guys to learn really , not for everyone and thats because a lot of single guys don't see value in themselves. Let me ask you the question, will you accept your favorite celebrity if he was married and wanted you as his girlfriend? " Single guys can you see that she can't answer my question, when you speak the truth the room goes silent lol | |||
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"some do ,some don't...surely the best thing would be to put it on your profile so people can make an informed decision, and make sure you read theirs, so you can see if they mention it as well..that would save a lot of time all round. I agree it would be the best thing to do. However when you see the vitriol that can sometimes attract its no wonder some don't bother." Agree on all accounts there. I choose to put it on. Folk can then decide if they are ok with it. Makes it ever more difficult to meet but cuts out wasting time. | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent Loads apparently. I don't worry about someone else's marital status because as far as I'm concerned it's none of my business " Wow.. And Hello | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. This discussion is for single guys to learn really , not for everyone and thats because a lot of single guys don't see value in themselves. Let me ask you the question, will you accept your favorite celebrity if he was married and wanted you as his girlfriend? Single guys can you see that she can't answer my question, when you speak the truth the room goes silent lol" Do you hear them replying to you in your head, has this been going on long? Ok, sit down, eyes open, concentrate- I replied already that if you are prepared to prosititute yourself for celebs, leave us(which would also suggest me) out of it. But feel free to call out to your single men so they can explain it to you again. | |||
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"Single guys, what I saying is it is really about you ,don't let the ladies pull a wool over your eyes , you are needed in this equation. what you need to change is how you play the game, get knowledge and understand the way the ladies think and you will immediately start winning in this game." There is no game to win. When people start thinking there is (regardless of gender) that's when it all starts going downhill. | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. This discussion is for single guys to learn really , not for everyone and thats because a lot of single guys don't see value in themselves. Let me ask you the question, will you accept your favorite celebrity if he was married and wanted you as his girlfriend? Single guys can you see that she can't answer my question, when you speak the truth the room goes silent lol Do you hear them replying to you in your head, has this been going on long? Ok, sit down, eyes open, concentrate- I replied already that if you are prepared to prosititute yourself for celebs, leave us(which would also suggest me) out of it. But feel free to call out to your single men so they can explain it to you again." We are having a constructive discussion, not arguing, am not talking about myself. So you are saying you will not accept your favorite male celebrity to have you as a girlfriend even though you know he is married answer it directly yes or no | |||
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"I asked a very direct question and I don't want an indirect answer, I want a direct answer, I know you are not likely to allow your boyfriend to have another girlfriend that you know at the same time as you but If your favourite male celebrity (business man, politician, basketball club owner, footballer, actor etc) walked up to you today and said I am married and I want you as my girlfriend and lover will you accept him? If you accept him, why would you accept him to be married and have you and not accept your boyfriend to do the same? Single guys watch the response and learn." I absolutely would not. | |||
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"I asked a very direct question and I don't want an indirect answer, I want a direct answer, I know you are not likely to allow your boyfriend to have another girlfriend that you know at the same time as you but If your favourite male celebrity (business man, politician, basketball club owner, footballer, actor etc) walked up to you today and said I am married and I want you as my girlfriend and lover will you accept him? If you accept him, why would you accept him to be married and have you and not accept your boyfriend to do the same? Single guys watch the response and learn. I absolutely would not. " I absolutely love you for your confidence, who is your favourite celebrity? | |||
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"Again the room goes silent, don't say including myself or deflect the question. Answer the question directly saying : I will not accept the most successful men in this world to have me as a girlfriend because they are married. Of course its a game, just go round town and see the way women speak to some guys in public and you will see guys need to learn how to handle themselves around women." . There are also guys who talk down to women like they are something they've stepped in. There're are women who talk to other women the way you describe. Men to men. The personality of the person you describe should be ascribed to the individual in question. It's not gender specific. | |||
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"I asked a very direct question and I don't want an indirect answer, I want a direct answer, I know you are not likely to allow your boyfriend to have another girlfriend that you know at the same time as you but If your favourite male celebrity (business man, politician, basketball club owner, footballer, actor etc) walked up to you today and said I am married and I want you as my girlfriend and lover will you accept him? If you accept him, why would you accept him to be married and have you and not accept your boyfriend to do the same? Single guys watch the response and learn. I absolutely would not. I absolutely love you for your confidence, who is your favourite celebrity?" There are a lot of people in the public eye who I respect for various reasons. I can't say I have a favourite celebrity. I certainly wouldn't shift my morals to accommodate someone because they have money or some sort of perceived status. | |||
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"Single guys, what I saying is it is really about you ,don't let the ladies pull a wool over your eyes , you are needed in this equation. what you need to change is how you play the game, get knowledge and understand the way the ladies think and you will immediately start winning in this game." Its so not a game for me. | |||
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"I asked a very direct question and I don't want an indirect answer, I want a direct answer, I know you are not likely to allow your boyfriend to have another girlfriend that you know at the same time as you but If your favourite male celebrity (business man, politician, basketball club owner, footballer, actor etc) walked up to you today and said I am married and I want you as my girlfriend and lover will you accept him? If you accept him, why would you accept him to be married and have you and not accept your boyfriend to do the same? Single guys watch the response and learn." No I wouldn't. Don't care who he is, the answer is still no on both counts. | |||
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"Lol , what I mean is everything in life breaks down to value, if you ask a lady , will you let your boyfriend have another girl friend while he is seeing you? she will say no. If you ask her the question like this, if your favourite celebrity was married and he wanted you as a girlfriend will you accept him? Value will decide that response.when you start swinging like this,seeing value in yourself as a man, you will find out the aura around you will be so strong that ladies will just walk up to you ask if you are free and take you straight into the room , they will not ask you any further questions. She will choose you with your mouth closed,I see it happen all the time with me and my friends. When a lady sees what she likes ,she is not going to care about anything, it will be no further questions lol You and your friends again ha ha ha hilarious. Just because you would prostitute yourself for a celebrity, leave us out of it. This discussion is for single guys to learn really , not for everyone and thats because a lot of single guys don't see value in themselves. Let me ask you the question, will you accept your favorite celebrity if he was married and wanted you as his girlfriend? Single guys can you see that she can't answer my question, when you speak the truth the room goes silent lol Do you hear them replying to you in your head, has this been going on long? Ok, sit down, eyes open, concentrate- I replied already that if you are prepared to prosititute yourself for celebs, leave us(which would also suggest me) out of it. But feel free to call out to your single men so they can explain it to you again. We are having a constructive discussion, not arguing, am not talking about myself. So you are saying you will not accept your favorite male celebrity to have you as a girlfriend even though you know he is married answer it directly yes or no" No I wouldn't. | |||
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"Again the room goes silent, don't say including myself or deflect the question. Answer the question directly saying : I will not accept the most successful men in this world to have me as a girlfriend because they are married. Of course its a game, just go round town and see the way women speak to some guys in public and you will see guys need to learn how to handle themselves around women." You have issues dude. Do you need to hear those exact words to help with your healing? Did a girlfriend cheat on you with a successful man? Or should we delve deeper- did your mum leave our dad for a rich man? Is that where your deprecating _iew of women comes from and why you think you are some "expert"? | |||
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"Again the room goes silent, don't say including myself or deflect the question. Answer the question directly saying : I will not accept the most successful men in this world to have me as a girlfriend because they are married. Of course its a game, just go round town and see the way women speak to some guys in public and you will see guys need to learn how to handle themselves around women. You have issues dude. Do you need to hear those exact words to help with your healing? Did a girlfriend cheat on you with a successful man? Or should we delve deeper- did your mum leave our dad for a rich man? Is that where your deprecating _iew of women comes from and why you think you are some "expert"? " I think you're getting far too personal about this man. Why mention offensive material such as his Mum leaving his Dad?Total unnecessary and uncalled for | |||
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"Again the room goes silent, don't say including myself or deflect the question. Answer the question directly saying : I will not accept the most successful men in this world to have me as a girlfriend because they are married. Of course its a game, just go round town and see the way women speak to some guys in public and you will see guys need to learn how to handle themselves around women. You have issues dude. Do you need to hear those exact words to help with your healing? Did a girlfriend cheat on you with a successful man? Or should we delve deeper- did your mum leave our dad for a rich man? Is that where your deprecating _iew of women comes from and why you think you are some "expert"? I think you're getting far too personal about this man. Why mention offensive material such as his Mum leaving his Dad?Total unnecessary and uncalled for " Thanks guys, you can see a persons class from their conversation lol she does not bother me at all, I didn't even look at her profile niether will I, am sure she really likes me and does not know how to go about it lol | |||
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"Again the room goes silent, don't say including myself or deflect the question. Answer the question directly saying : I will not accept the most successful men in this world to have me as a girlfriend because they are married. Of course its a game, just go round town and see the way women speak to some guys in public and you will see guys need to learn how to handle themselves around women. You have issues dude. Do you need to hear those exact words to help with your healing? Did a girlfriend cheat on you with a successful man? Or should we delve deeper- did your mum leave our dad for a rich man? Is that where your deprecating _iew of women comes from and why you think you are some "expert"? I think you're getting far too personal about this man. Why mention offensive material such as his Mum leaving his Dad?Total unnecessary and uncalled for Thanks guys, you can see a persons class from their conversation lol she does not bother me at all, I didn't even look at her profile niether will I, am sure she really likes me and does not know how to go about it lol " I'm not being offensive. I genuinely think you have issues likely stemming back to your parent's relationship. You have been trying to push women's buttons all day with your posts (people need to read back).I've finally pushed yours. You really feel the need to announce that you've not looked at my profile and I must be desperate to meet you? Hope that made you feel better about yourself. And I bet you looked in stealth mode. | |||
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"Back to the topic, there are women with very strong principles instilled in them as they were growing up. I remember watching a film ,Indecent Proposal, watch that film , you will find there are a lot of lessons to learn when it comes to making statements about what you will or will not do. If my favourite celebrity came to me and offered herself to me , I am honest enough to say I will take it but I will not be interested in causing her marriage any problems because of my principle but I will hit it with a condom on lol x" Oh dear! Well Yoda - why dont you crack on with your getting a shag super powers and let the rest of us ejits have our own moral compass. I'm sure you'll let us all know the next conquest you have. Ta | |||
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"I find it funny how the attitude can differ between married men and married women. I rarely have ever had said to me they won't meet me because I'm married. But men encounter this every day and many don't even own up that they are married !" This We have mail from plenty of guys who are married who want to meet with me on my other profile and don't care either way if im married or not. And yet my husband openly admits he is married and not cheating with 99% of mail he sends either getting deleted within minutes of being read or ends up with a nasty reply saying they believe he is a cheat. Although he did have a funny one once saying that "they knew his wife (me) and her phone number and were going to ring and say they found him on a swinging site behind my back" .... he replied go for it as she wrote the profile lol | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them." Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to yourself. | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them." Why not do a new thread with your Swinging Tips for men. | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to I yourself." I put it like that cause ladies easily take offence when the truth is spoken lol x | |||
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"Again the room goes silent, don't say including myself or deflect the question. Answer the question directly saying : I will not accept the most successful men in this world to have me as a girlfriend because they are married. Of course its a game, just go round town and see the way women speak to some guys in public and you will see guys need to learn how to handle themselves around women." No I wouldn't! | |||
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"How many people frown on married people playing without partners consent " Not me | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to I yourself. I put it like that cause ladies easily take offence when the truth is spoken lol x" Hmmmmm.....I'm not so sure they're taking offence more like getting their POV across. | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to I yourself. I put it like that cause ladies easily take offence when the truth is spoken lol x Hmmmmm.....I'm not so sure they're taking offence more like getting their POV across." Hey beautiful , it's so nice to talk to a fine real lady like you who is sure of herself, I wish I was closer so I could kick it with youxx | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to yourself." He is and to the friends in his head. | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to I yourself. I put it like that cause ladies easily take offence when the truth is spoken lol x Hmmmmm.....I'm not so sure they're taking offence more like getting their POV across. Hey beautiful , it's so nice to talk to a fine real lady like you who is sure of herself, I wish I was closer so I could kick it with youxx" Austin Powers in the room | |||
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"I would back up everything I say with reasons , I can understand if a lady says she does not want to be on the receiving end of an angry wife, this is a fair comment and this line of thought will come from an area like mine where we don't have many clubs, also, it depends on the experience of the swingers involved and how you play it.If you start texting all the time as if you have a relationship then this will be the result. My communications are short and straight to the point with the ladies I swing with and If you read them , they don't suggest any kind of relationship. It looks like two friends chatting. When I initially rejoined after a sabbatical about 8 months ago, I got chatting to someone who I used to meet, again. He sent me a veri and I reciprocated. About 3 hours later, I had a message off his girlfriend (she'd set up an account as she'd discovered he was on fab). I found out that he'd been with her when I was meeting him and she'd been pregnant at the time. I had no idea he was in a relationship. I felt really sorry for her and guilty despite not being aware of his relationship status. Causing pain to someone is not why I am on here. It's supposed to be fun. That's why I think it's important for people to be honest about their relationship status. It's not fair to lie to someone to get sex. Some do not like being party to cheating, regardless as to whether it's casual sex or not. " This. Precisely this. | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to yourself. He is and to the friends in his head. " | |||
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"Lol, Well I am just having conversation as I said and guys if you take what I say and apply it, you will see it is real. They only strenght the ladies have over you is your interest in their pussy and they see it in your conversation with them, turn that down and they will be confused and not know what to do, then you can lead the way from that point. You do all this in your conversation with them. Use the Reply & Quote otherwise it looks like your taking to yourself. He is and to the friends in his head. " I'm thinking this too | |||
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