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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days? |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Might not be considered acceptable to some but others it is. This site is very liberal but not all of the world is. Culture, upbringing, education, religion and media all have an impact on peoples views. Them statements don't necessarily mean they have a problem it just means they are not interested. People interpret things differently and are quick to judge especially extreme liberals. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I really don't understand people's attitude to men having sex with men. Why does it bother people what other people do in the bedroom?
The idea of women having sex with each other doesn't turn me on but I have no issue with them doing it. I wouldn't have it in my mind that they had. |
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Currently it's inappropriate to say alot of things and the things you do say will likely offend someone.
Some people find spiders horrid, while I personally have no course why.. once you apply this idea to things like gay sex, then it's simply logic that the very concept will be repulsive to it, it's just statistics and they likely can't even say why. |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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I like men kissing and giving each other oral but don't like the idea of 'gay' sex. I just don't like anal or anything to do with mens bum holes really. I didn't even like the idea of being rimmed when i first joined fab but since i got rimmed sneakily i do enjoy that and sometimes i get the urge to shove my finger up a guys bum but it's not something i think of that turns me on.
But i do meet bi men and don't mind they've had anal sex with others or whatever. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Something is bound to offend somebody these days, can't stand political correctness; people should be free to think and do as they please, as well as associate with who they please for whatever reason.
Personally, not got a problem with gays, but let's be honest, the spreading of disease is higher amongst gays for some reason. People are aware of this and it makes people more cautious. "Homophobia" doesn't really play into it. |
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I am a bi bloke and I have had gay sex and I am happy with that.
Some ladies do not like it and do not want to be intimate with me for that reason. That is their prerogative, if they used the fact I had gay sex as a perjorative then that's not ok.
They shouldn't hate me for it but they have the right to say they do not want to be initiate with me as a result. Much the same as the do because I am ginge |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
I don't think people were saying they had a problem with people having what you call "gay sex"
Just that sexually they find it a turn off.
And yes it is perfectly acceptable to say that
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think a lot of sexual turn on's and turn off's are very difficult to pin point exactly why they evoke the feelings one way or the other that they do, as another poster said there isn't always logic and you can't always rationalise human emotion.
I'm short fat and ginger, I know I'm not for everyone but I don't feel discriminated against by those that wouldn't have sex with me for either of the reasons above. Most of the responses to these discrimination posts is simply down to preference and there is no malice behind it, however; they could sometimes be worded better. But if someone is asked their views on gay sex then I think it's perfectly acceptable to say it's not to their liking.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it's perfectly acceptable to say you don't like "gay sex" people are quite entitled to their likes and dislikes. It's only if they try to stop someone else or change others minds it becomes an issue.
Once you tell people what they personally are allowed to like or dislike you stop being the oppressed and become the oppressor
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By *ock69erMan
over a year ago
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Is it acceptable?..... Absolutely, of course it is.
You have a legal right to free speech, if you dislike something and find it unacceptable to yourself then you are quite within your rights to stand up and say so without fear of recrimination.
It's also acceptable for you to stand up and say you don't agree. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On a more serious note...
I think it's tolerable for someone to say they don't like the thought of gay sex. However, when people start adding words like "vile" or "disgusting", this is when I take issue and I feel it becomes unacceptable. |
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"I think it's perfectly acceptable to say you don't like "gay sex" people are quite entitled to their likes and dislikes. It's only if they try to stop someone else or change others minds it becomes an issue.
Once you tell people what they personally are allowed to like or dislike you stop being the oppressed and become the oppressor
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I think there's a degree of homophobia in those automatically excluding bi men from their search but it's important to remember that degree and that there's a big difference between someone who gets really uncomfortable watching Brokeback Mountain and occasionally uses the words "Fag" or "Queer" and someone with a really militant or violent agenda. Nobody's perfect and we all give in to stereotypes on occasions. If you've seen Avenue Q, you'll know that "Everyone's a little bit Racist". |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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In the 21st Century it shouldn't be an issue, but people are all entitled to their own views, opinions and beliefs. Can't fuck with free speech.
On another note, maybe there's still an assumption that gay sex is more likely to be unprotected or that STI are more prevalent amongst gay men. |
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"In the 21st Century it shouldn't be an issue, but people are all entitled to their own views, opinions and beliefs. Can't fuck with free speech.
On another note, maybe there's still an assumption that gay sex is more likely to be unprotected or that STI are more prevalent amongst gay men."
That keeps coming up as a reason why Bi guys are automatically excluded by some couples and women and it's always done without acknowledging any other factors other than if you ticked the Bi or Straight box - whether or not you even have anal or are just orally bi, if you're top or bottom, use protection/lubrication, the number, frequency of partners, last instance of sex compared to last test, whether the Straight guy you assume is safer is having anal with women and if he's straight or just Fab Straight. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
I don't think people were saying they had a problem with people having what you call "gay sex"
Just that sexually they find it a turn off.
And yes it is perfectly acceptable to say that
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I call it gay sex because sex between two people of the same sex is, by definition, gay sex.
Its not bi sex because it's same sex sex.
I'm just in analytical mood today. Intrigued by the way people think. I'd like to understand other people's thoughts more. |
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Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
well considering this was MY quote 
I'm not gay so have no opinion on it |
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By *aroleBaskinWoman
over a year ago
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
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Those weren't the only views and reasons given on your thread. |
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I agree Jemima, the thread got closed because it got too big so there was plenty of opinions stated.
They were though the main points levelled at me,which I wanted to respond to if I'm being honest with you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
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Fab is also about respecting other people's right to choice and to say no to sex with whomever they wish
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By *aroleBaskinWoman
over a year ago
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"I agree Jemima, the thread got closed because it got too big so there was plenty of opinions stated.
They were though the main points levelled at me,which I wanted to respond to if I'm being honest with you."
Those were definitely the opinions that caused the most controversy. I do think there were some fair and reasonable points made but they tend to get lost amongst the angst. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?well considering this was MY quote
I'm not gay so have no opinion on it "
It was a comment I couldn't understand to be honest, there's plenty of sexual practices I've no desire to get involved in, sploshing, watersports, BDSM, but can't imagine ever thinking about what the girl I'm with has done before meeting me. And I do play with a girl who's getting into being a sub but we've never explored that together and I have no desire to start but I don't think about her being spanked while we're having sex. I'm not trying to be awkward, I just genuinely don't have any frame of reference to compare it to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
Fab is also about respecting other people's right to choice and to say no to sex with whomever they wish
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that's not a good enough reason for some folk on here tho  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I really don't understand people's attitude to men having sex with men. Why does it bother people what other people do in the bedroom?
The idea of women having sex with each other doesn't turn me on but I have no issue with them doing it. I wouldn't have it in my mind that they had. "
I have thought about this quite a lot over the years. I'm happy to live and let live so I'm not anti-gay in a political or moral sense.
However, I'm profoundly repulsed by the thought of gay sex, in exactly the same way that I'm deeply repulsed by the thought of 1ncest, or bestiality, or sc@t play. (Jeez I can't even post these word on this forum)
Unlike many people I don't see this as homophobia. It's not an irrational fear (which is the true meaning of phobia). Rather, it's an instinctive reaction born, I am certain, of Darwinian selection over millennia.
It would be really surprising, given the heterosexual nature of human reproduction, if the majority of people were entirely content with either front or back bottom relationships! Natural selection dictates that the majority must have strong instincts in favour of heterosexual attraction and a certain amount of replusion concerning homosexual acts.
I think the gay community needs to get over themselves on this one and accept that acceptance is all they will ever win from the larger community. 85% of the population will never find homosexual sex appealing, or attractive, or something they should learn to do.
So, I guess that's one reason why we say 'straight only' in our profile. |
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
Fab is also about respecting other people's right to choice and to say no to sex with whomever they wish
that's not a good enough reason for some folk on here tho "
Sorry I forgot
We should fuck anyone who offers so not to cause offence or outrage to those looking to be offended
Regardless of how we feel
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
Fab is also about respecting other people's right to choice and to say no to sex with whomever they wish
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As I've stated before, nobody is asking anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to, we're just asking to be judged on our own merits and treated as individuals rather than being disregarded en masse without ever having even been spoken to, though I do appreciate women here do sometimes have to block out whole groups of guys just to get down to a manageable number of possibilities. It's the same as the "No Asians" statement, women have a couple of bad experiences in clubs with rude men and decide to ignore the lot rather than hunt for the good guys amongst the idiots just cos it cuts down on the messages, not because they're racist. |
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
Fab is also about respecting other people's right to choice and to say no to sex with whomever they wish
As I've stated before, nobody is asking anyone to have sex with anyone they don't want to, we're just asking to be judged on our own merits and treated as individuals rather than being disregarded en masse without ever having even been spoken to, though I do appreciate women here do sometimes have to block out whole groups of guys just to get down to a manageable number of possibilities. It's the same as the "No Asians" statement, women have a couple of bad experiences in clubs with rude men and decide to ignore the lot rather than hunt for the good guys amongst the idiots just cos it cuts down on the messages, not because they're racist. "
not every decision is through bad experiences..
I choose my preferences on what fits my sexual fantasy.... simple as that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And so it begins...again
Don't want another headache like the last post gave me so I'm going to bow out of this post
Away to ask admin why I can block gay ..tv/cds but not bi men
Enjoy the merry go round
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"Hey all
I posted the original forum post questioning the potentially hypocritical attitudes towards bi guys on a swinging site that fundamentally champions an open minded attitude to sex generally. I brought it up to ask a question and promote a discussion more than anything.
In answer to some of the comments on the original thread.
"He's only saying that in complaint that nobody wants to meet him." I've met an continue to meet great couples and ladies through fab but more in clubs to be honest.
"He's saying that if I don't meet bi guys it's ignoring my right to a preference." Not at all, I was just questioning a broad generalisation when people don't meet bi or bi-curious guys full stop. If you don't take the individual into account and just look in broad brush strokes, then isn't that clubbing everyone into one group. Ergo if that's the case, is that a definition of discrimination?
"Bi and bi-curious guys carry more of a risk" I'm not sure how anyone can quantify that. I see plenty of straight couples advertising for bareback meets, isn't that more risky? How can anyone say that all bi or bi-curious guys have anal? I'd say there's more straight anal than bi anal in my experience.
Anywho, the original question was just that, a question. On one hand I think it's great that so many people put their points forward but also slightly sad that some opinions erred towards a very 1970s attitude when fab is all about having fun!
Fab is also about respecting other people's right to choice and to say no to sex with whomever they wish
that's not a good enough reason for some folk on here tho "
She see my second comment regarding that.
The number of people on here that complain about inane "how are you" or "wanna fuck" emails, and I stupidly tried to have a discussion about something I'd noticed thinking that people may want something a bit more interesting to talk about..... |
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"And so it begins...again
Don't want another headache like the last post gave me so I'm going to bow out of this post
Away to ask admin why I can block gay ..tv/cds but not bi men
Enjoy the merry go round
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Then stop reading and posting is surely the solution.....? |
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"You started this thread OP. Ostensibly with the idea of asking people their opinions.
What were you expectng?"
To be honest I'm not sure.
At the very least a discussion where the people who visit and meet the site could talk about what might be seen as double standards or hypocrisy.
We as swingers are portrayed in media and popular culture as negatively different. You only need to see the headlines about the missing RAF guy to we that "secret double life" etc
I just thought we might have a semi intelligent discussion without it degenerating into an argument of insults?
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"You started this thread OP. Ostensibly with the idea of asking people their opinions.
What were you expectng?
To be honest I'm not sure.
At the very least a discussion where the people who visit and meet the site could talk about what might be seen as double standards or hypocrisy.
We as swingers are portrayed in media and popular culture as negatively different. You only need to see the headlines about the missing RAF guy to we that "secret double life" etc
I just thought we might have a semi intelligent discussion without it degenerating into an argument of insults?
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It is not double standards or hypocrisy though |
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"You started this thread OP. Ostensibly with the idea of asking people their opinions.
What were you expectng?
To be honest I'm not sure.
At the very least a discussion where the people who visit and meet the site could talk about what might be seen as double standards or hypocrisy.
We as swingers are portrayed in media and popular culture as negatively different. You only need to see the headlines about the missing RAF guy to we that "secret double life" etc
I just thought we might have a semi intelligent discussion without it degenerating into an argument of insults?
It is not double standards or hypocrisy though "
It is if the woman in the couple or single lady that aren't looking for bi guys are bi themselves apparently |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"You started this thread OP. Ostensibly with the idea of asking people their opinions.
What were you expectng?"
Opinions?
I'm not judging. Just reading. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You started this thread OP. Ostensibly with the idea of asking people their opinions.
What were you expectng?
To be honest I'm not sure.
At the very least a discussion where the people who visit and meet the site could talk about what might be seen as double standards or hypocrisy.
We as swingers are portrayed in media and popular culture as negatively different. You only need to see the headlines about the missing RAF guy to we that "secret double life" etc
I just thought we might have a semi intelligent discussion without it degenerating into an argument of insults?
It is not double standards or hypocrisy though It is if the woman in the couple or single lady that aren't looking for bi guys are bi themselves apparently "
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"And so it begins...again
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Probably because in all this not one of you can do the one thing I've asked of you.
Not fuck me.
Not declare what a bigoted homophobe you are and beg the forgiveness of Leftie Liberals everywhere.
Just treat me as an individual, read what I've written and acknowledge that I've taken what you've said on board and given sensible responses. That I've done it with a reasonable amount of intelligence, without much aggression, accusation or agenda and with enough humour to make you think that if you bumped into me at a club, ten minutes chatting to me at the bar could actually be quite a laugh, rather than just blanking me, even if you probably still wouldn't wanna shag me afterwards. That's all I'd like from this thread. |
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"And so it begins...again
Probably because in all this not one of you can do the one thing I've asked of you.
Not fuck me.
Not declare what a bigoted homophobe you are and beg the forgiveness of Leftie Liberals everywhere.
Just treat me as an individual, read what I've written and acknowledge that I've taken what you've said on board and given sensible responses. That I've done it with a reasonable amount of intelligence, without much aggression, accusation or agenda and with enough humour to make you think that if you bumped into me at a club, ten minutes chatting to me at the bar could actually be quite a laugh, rather than just blanking me, even if you probably still wouldn't wanna shag me afterwards. That's all I'd like from this thread. "
Eh? This thread is about why some straight people don't want to jump into bed with gay guys. It's got nothing at all to do with wanting acceptance in a social environment. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
the simple answer is yes it is acceptable to say you have a problem with it . its an own persons opinion and you cant change it |
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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago
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I don't have a problem with the folks who have a problem with gay sex. I DO have a problem with the folks who have a problem with the folks who have a problem with gay sex.
If that sounds stupid it's probably because it IS!
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"And so it begins...again
Probably because in all this not one of you can do the one thing I've asked of you.
Not fuck me.
Not declare what a bigoted homophobe you are and beg the forgiveness of Leftie Liberals everywhere.
Just treat me as an individual, read what I've written and acknowledge that I've taken what you've said on board and given sensible responses. That I've done it with a reasonable amount of intelligence, without much aggression, accusation or agenda and with enough humour to make you think that if you bumped into me at a club, ten minutes chatting to me at the bar could actually be quite a laugh, rather than just blanking me, even if you probably still wouldn't wanna shag me afterwards. That's all I'd like from this thread.
Eh? This thread is about why some straight people don't want to jump into bed with gay guys. It's got nothing at all to do with wanting acceptance in a social environment."
I'd have thought that in a swingers environment, who we play with and who we socialise with would be quite closely linked?
Besides, I've been asking why people disregard all bi guys without judging them individually. You can't form an opinion on whether or not that person is interesting and attractive enough to put aside your initial misgivings about their sexual preference because you find an attraction to another aspect of their character without that social interaction. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Yes it's acceptable if it's in relation to who people want to have sex with.
There's lots of things that put me off people or make me feel queasy about them. So I won't have sex with them.
But I may still be friends with them. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"And so it begins...again
Probably because in all this not one of you can do the one thing I've asked of you.
Not fuck me.
Not declare what a bigoted homophobe you are and beg the forgiveness of Leftie Liberals everywhere.
Just treat me as an individual, read what I've written and acknowledge that I've taken what you've said on board and given sensible responses. That I've done it with a reasonable amount of intelligence, without much aggression, accusation or agenda and with enough humour to make you think that if you bumped into me at a club, ten minutes chatting to me at the bar could actually be quite a laugh, rather than just blanking me, even if you probably still wouldn't wanna shag me afterwards. That's all I'd like from this thread.
Eh? This thread is about why some straight people don't want to jump into bed with gay guys. It's got nothing at all to do with wanting acceptance in a social environment."
Actually it's not about having sex with gay guys.
I simply asked if it's acceptable to voice that you have a problem with guys having sex with each other.
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"And so it begins...again
Probably because in all this not one of you can do the one thing I've asked of you.
Not fuck me.
Not declare what a bigoted homophobe you are and beg the forgiveness of Leftie Liberals everywhere.
Just treat me as an individual, read what I've written and acknowledge that I've taken what you've said on board and given sensible responses. That I've done it with a reasonable amount of intelligence, without much aggression, accusation or agenda and with enough humour to make you think that if you bumped into me at a club, ten minutes chatting to me at the bar could actually be quite a laugh, rather than just blanking me, even if you probably still wouldn't wanna shag me afterwards. That's all I'd like from this thread.
Eh? This thread is about why some straight people don't want to jump into bed with gay guys. It's got nothing at all to do with wanting acceptance in a social environment.
I'd have thought that in a swingers environment, who we play with and who we socialise with would be quite closely linked?
Besides, I've been asking why people disregard all bi guys without judging them individually. You can't form an opinion on whether or not that person is interesting and attractive enough to put aside your initial misgivings about their sexual preference because you find an attraction to another aspect of their character without that social interaction. "
yes I can... as if I know they are bi then I'm not attracted to them... I may well find them great company but my sexual attraction is zilch |
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I find loads of stuff turns my stomach. Glory holes, anal sex, rimming, spitting or urinating on someone. But for me what I can't see doesn't hurt me. I've said in similar threads, I am assuming that those who get turned off someone purely due to the knowledge of a sexual act they find distasteful, will apply that logic to all sexual acts they find distasteful, not just those activities that come under the umbrella of 'bisexual' men.
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days? Might not be considered acceptable to some but others it is. This site is very liberal but not all of the world is. Culture, upbringing, education, religion and media all have an impact on peoples views. Them statements don't necessarily mean they have a problem it just means they are not interested. People interpret things differently and are quick to judge especially extreme liberals."
No. It indicates that they DO have a problem. If they just weren't interested then they wouldn't be concerned that a guy had been with another guy. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days? Might not be considered acceptable to some but others it is. This site is very liberal but not all of the world is. Culture, upbringing, education, religion and media all have an impact on peoples views. Them statements don't necessarily mean they have a problem it just means they are not interested. People interpret things differently and are quick to judge especially extreme liberals.
No. It indicates that they DO have a problem. If they just weren't interested then they wouldn't be concerned that a guy had been with another guy. "
I don't think they are exactly persecuting them or committing hate crimes etc they just don't want to fuck them so it's not a big problem is it. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days? Might not be considered acceptable to some but others it is. This site is very liberal but not all of the world is. Culture, upbringing, education, religion and media all have an impact on peoples views. Them statements don't necessarily mean they have a problem it just means they are not interested. People interpret things differently and are quick to judge especially extreme liberals.
No. It indicates that they DO have a problem. If they just weren't interested then they wouldn't be concerned that a guy had been with another guy. I don't think they are exactly persecuting them or committing hate crimes etc they just don't want to fuck them so it's not a big problem is it."
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days? Might not be considered acceptable to some but others it is. This site is very liberal but not all of the world is. Culture, upbringing, education, religion and media all have an impact on peoples views. Them statements don't necessarily mean they have a problem it just means they are not interested. People interpret things differently and are quick to judge especially extreme liberals.
No. It indicates that they DO have a problem. If they just weren't interested then they wouldn't be concerned that a guy had been with another guy. I don't think they are exactly persecuting them or committing hate crimes etc they just don't want to fuck them so it's not a big problem is it."
That is the bottom line at the end of the day, isn't it? How serious is the feeling here. There may well be a tiny bit of homophobia floating around this site, but I've yet to encounter anyone on here I think might set fire to a Pride Float in the middle of Brighton town centre. |
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"It makes me laugh when couples with a bi female states no bi males like it's a disease or something. Talk about double standards"
Please explain the logic that a woman who likes sex with other women SHOULD like men who like having sex with men? |
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By *otlegs80Couple
over a year ago
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I think putting you cock inside a mans ass is no different to putting it into a womans. So thats not an issue however my man is straight and wouldnt have a gay or bi man near him in a sexual manner and I think for a straight guy that thats acceptable.. he would not be nasty to them or anything like that as he hasnt got a nasty bone in his body but he is entitled to set his limits, I think some people can just be rude and ignorant towards the issue when theres really no need |
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"It makes me laugh when couples with a bi female states no bi males like it's a disease or something. Talk about double standards"
not really. I just dont find bi guys attractive
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The thought of gay sex to me is off putting. But that's just me. However if someone is gay it doesn't change my views of them as a person. Each to their own. It's no different to a gay guy not liking the idea of having sex with a woman. Everyone has their own preference. |
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"I really don't understand people's attitude to men having sex with men. Why does it bother people what other people do in the bedroom?
The idea of women having sex with each other doesn't turn me on but I have no issue with them doing it. I wouldn't have it in my mind that they had.
I have thought about this quite a lot over the years. I'm happy to live and let live so I'm not anti-gay in a political or moral sense.
However, I'm profoundly repulsed by the thought of gay sex, in exactly the same way that I'm deeply repulsed by the thought of 1ncest, or bestiality, or sc@t play. (Jeez I can't even post these word on this forum)
Unlike many people I don't see this as homophobia. It's not an irrational fear (which is the true meaning of phobia). Rather, it's an instinctive reaction born, I am certain, of Darwinian selection over millennia.
It would be really surprising, given the heterosexual nature of human reproduction, if the majority of people were entirely content with either front or back bottom relationships! Natural selection dictates that the majority must have strong instincts in favour of heterosexual attraction and a certain amount of replusion concerning homosexual acts.
I think the gay community needs to get over themselves on this one and accept that acceptance is all they will ever win from the larger community. 85% of the population will never find homosexual sex appealing, or attractive, or something they should learn to do.
So, I guess that's one reason why we say 'straight only' in our profile."
Wouldn't natural selection also mean that most people were profoundly repulsed by hetero anal sex, oral sex and contraception, given that by definition those who only like unprotected vaginal sex will out breed everyone else?
I am afraid the Darwinian argument is completely spurious. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Depends what the context is really.
1) I have no problem whatsoever with what gay or Bi men get up to.
2) I don't however wish to have sex with them as it is more risky.
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"Funny thing happened to my today. Got chatting on here to a TV usual stuff then out of the blue she says 'you're bi' I replied yes, she says sorry I don't meet bi guys!!! Wtf!! "
That is delusional discrimination! |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Depends what the context is really.
1) I have no problem whatsoever with what gay or Bi men get up to.
2) I don't however wish to have sex with them as it is more risky.
Xx"
Even though there are many more factors involved in the "risk assessment", whether the bi guy in question is even having anal sex with men or is just orally bi, use of protection/lubrication, with how many partners, how long ago, is he getting tested. You ask all these questions of a bi and a straight prospective playmate and the and the difference in risk is surely negligible. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Depends what the context is really.
1) I have no problem whatsoever with what gay or Bi men get up to.
2) I don't however wish to have sex with them as it is more risky.
Xx
Even though there are many more factors involved in the "risk assessment", whether the bi guy in question is even having anal sex with men or is just orally bi, use of protection/lubrication, with how many partners, how long ago, is he getting tested. You ask all these questions of a bi and a straight prospective playmate and the and the difference in risk is surely negligible. "
Not according to gov statistics...though it would be interesting to compare stats for the more active swingers. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Depends what the context is really.
1) I have no problem whatsoever with what gay or Bi men get up to.
2) I don't however wish to have sex with them as it is more risky.
Xx
Even though there are many more factors involved in the "risk assessment", whether the bi guy in question is even having anal sex with men or is just orally bi, use of protection/lubrication, with how many partners, how long ago, is he getting tested. You ask all these questions of a bi and a straight prospective playmate and the and the difference in risk is surely negligible. "
Why ? Why would anyone want to do that? And do you think bi guys would appreciate that kind of questioning
The thing is this. Some people just don't want to have sexual encounters with bi guys. And actually this is okay.
In fact it's more than ok. Because actually we prefer to play with people who really get "our preferences". Why do some of you want to change and chastise those that don't. |
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"I really don't understand people's attitude to men having sex with men. Why does it bother people what other people do in the bedroom?
The idea of women having sex with each other doesn't turn me on but I have no issue with them doing it. I wouldn't have it in my mind that they had.
I have thought about this quite a lot over the years. I'm happy to live and let live so I'm not anti-gay in a political or moral sense.
However, I'm profoundly repulsed by the thought of gay sex, in exactly the same way that I'm deeply repulsed by the thought of 1ncest, or bestiality, or sc@t play. (Jeez I can't even post these word on this forum)
Unlike many people I don't see this as homophobia. It's not an irrational fear (which is the true meaning of phobia). Rather, it's an instinctive reaction born, I am certain, of Darwinian selection over millennia.
It would be really surprising, given the heterosexual nature of human reproduction, if the majority of people were entirely content with either front or back bottom relationships! Natural selection dictates that the majority must have strong instincts in favour of heterosexual attraction and a certain amount of replusion concerning homosexual acts.
I think the gay community needs to get over themselves on this one and accept that acceptance is all they will ever win from the larger community. 85% of the population will never find homosexual sex appealing, or attractive, or something they should learn to do.
So, I guess that's one reason why we say 'straight only' in our profile.
Wouldn't natural selection also mean that most people were profoundly repulsed by hetero anal sex, oral sex and contraception, given that by definition those who only like unprotected vaginal sex will out breed everyone else?
I am afraid the Darwinian argument is completely spurious. "
Good to see that you've turned the searing searchlight of your intellect onto the proposition and managed to dismiss it out of hand, without too much thought.
Darwinian selection is something that happens over the course of hundreds of millenia. The petty fads of late 20th C and early 21st C sexuality strangely enough have no influence on this long-term process.
Perhaps you have a better explanation for why some people are naturally turned off by homosexual acts without spouting some tripe about homophobia. Do please share it. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
"
Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Depends what the context is really.
1) I have no problem whatsoever with what gay or Bi men get up to.
2) I don't however wish to have sex with them as it is more risky.
Xx
Even though there are many more factors involved in the "risk assessment", whether the bi guy in question is even having anal sex with men or is just orally bi, use of protection/lubrication, with how many partners, how long ago, is he getting tested. You ask all these questions of a bi and a straight prospective playmate and the and the difference in risk is surely negligible.
Not according to gov statistics...though it would be interesting to compare stats for the more active swingers."
Yeah, I'd imagine we're a bit of a statistical anomaly.
Personally, I'm more interested in if a potential playmate is having safe sex than who they're having it with. |
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"I really don't understand people's attitude to men having sex with men. Why does it bother people what other people do in the bedroom?
The idea of women having sex with each other doesn't turn me on but I have no issue with them doing it. I wouldn't have it in my mind that they had.
I have thought about this quite a lot over the years. I'm happy to live and let live so I'm not anti-gay in a political or moral sense.
However, I'm profoundly repulsed by the thought of gay sex, in exactly the same way that I'm deeply repulsed by the thought of 1ncest, or bestiality, or sc@t play. (Jeez I can't even post these word on this forum)
Unlike many people I don't see this as homophobia. It's not an irrational fear (which is the true meaning of phobia). Rather, it's an instinctive reaction born, I am certain, of Darwinian selection over millennia.
It would be really surprising, given the heterosexual nature of human reproduction, if the majority of people were entirely content with either front or back bottom relationships! Natural selection dictates that the majority must have strong instincts in favour of heterosexual attraction and a certain amount of replusion concerning homosexual acts.
I think the gay community needs to get over themselves on this one and accept that acceptance is all they will ever win from the larger community. 85% of the population will never find homosexual sex appealing, or attractive, or something they should learn to do.
So, I guess that's one reason why we say 'straight only' in our profile.
Wouldn't natural selection also mean that most people were profoundly repulsed by hetero anal sex, oral sex and contraception, given that by definition those who only like unprotected vaginal sex will out breed everyone else?
I am afraid the Darwinian argument is completely spurious.
Good to see that you've turned the searing searchlight of your intellect onto the proposition and managed to dismiss it out of hand, without too much thought.
Darwinian selection is something that happens over the course of hundreds of millenia. The petty fads of late 20th C and early 21st C sexuality strangely enough have no influence on this long-term process.
Perhaps you have a better explanation for why some people are naturally turned off by homosexual acts without spouting some tripe about homophobia. Do please share it."
Your argument is that people are repulsed by male homosexuality because it is dysfunctional from an evolutionary point of view. That's correct. But then so are other non procreative forms of sex like the ones I mentioned and also female homosexuality. As there is not a similar level of repulsion, the Darwinian argument can't explain the repulsion to male homosexuality. I said nothing about homophobia just that your argument doesn't hold. Oh and perhaps lay off the ad hominems. |
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Threads like this make me laugh you are never going to get a definitive answer some will agree others won't. I'm bi so I love manlove I like to feel a man inside me just as much as I do when I'm with a woman am I bothered if someone is offended by that? Not in the slightest. |
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"On a more serious note...
I think it's tolerable for someone to say they don't like the thought of gay sex. However, when people start adding words like "vile" or "disgusting", this is when I take issue and I feel it becomes unacceptable. "
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Depends what the context is really.
1) I have no problem whatsoever with what gay or Bi men get up to.
2) I don't however wish to have sex with them as it is more risky.
Xx
Even though there are many more factors involved in the "risk assessment", whether the bi guy in question is even having anal sex with men or is just orally bi, use of protection/lubrication, with how many partners, how long ago, is he getting tested. You ask all these questions of a bi and a straight prospective playmate and the and the difference in risk is surely negligible.
Why ? Why would anyone want to do that? And do you think bi guys would appreciate that kind of questioning
The thing is this. Some people just don't want to have sexual encounters with bi guys. And actually this is okay.
In fact it's more than ok. Because actually we prefer to play with people who really get "our preferences". Why do some of you want to change and chastise those that don't. "
I wasn't literally suggesting questioning someone like that before a meet, I was just saying these other factors affect the "risk" some people worry about as much as if that person is bi or straight, maybe more so.
As for trying to change or chastise people, it's just asking people to have a look beyond the stereotypes and see what they see out there. It just might be someone who pleasantly surprises them.
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I guess it comes down to context and circumstance, a macmillan coffee morning is no place for stating that you find gay sex unappealing as it is unnecessary. However, mentioning it on what is essentially a NSA website makes perfect sense, people are looking for what turns them on, and advertise as such. If they mention it on their profile then surely this just saves everyone's time? |
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I have a simple and unapologetic view. What two or more consenting adults do together is non of your f@ king business. If you don't like the thought of it keep the idea to yourself or be called the prejudiced prat you are. If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck it is very likely duck. If you say prejudiced things you are very likely prejudiced. Live with it or examine what you are saying impartially and with a rational mind. In the same way people are calling out political correctness we should call out prejudice. Freedom of speech is not absolute the law prevents certain comments.
There are few that would say that a person not wanting to have sexual relations with certain groups is prejudiced.
That is true but the bigger principle is that no one should tell another adult of sound mind with whom they can or cannot have sex if it is another adult of sound mind.
I used to believe that we in the west have got beyond the point of being gratuitously rude to groups who were born outside of our ordained by God great little group. It clearly seems that we have not.
Why should stupidity not be challenged? Because it has prevailed in the Abrahamic line of religions for a more than a millenium and has been found false on every issue, from masturbation in women kills kittens (that is where the name comes from) to women where actually formed from Adam's rib. The Jews know what happens when these stupid comments become regular and accepted discourse. But then no one initially took Hitler seriously as he did not initially bomb the local pride marches.
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"I have a simple and unapologetic view. What two or more consenting adults do together is non of your f@ king business. If you don't like the thought of it keep the idea to yourself or be called the prejudiced prat you are. If it walks like a duck quacks like a duck it is very likely duck. If you say prejudiced things you are very likely prejudiced. Live with it or examine what you are saying impartially and with a rational mind. In the same way people are calling out political correctness we should call out prejudice. Freedom of speech is not absolute the law prevents certain comments.
There are few that would say that a person not wanting to have sexual relations with certain groups is prejudiced.
That is true but the bigger principle is that no one should tell another adult of sound mind with whom they can or cannot have sex if it is another adult of sound mind.
I used to believe that we in the west have got beyond the point of being gratuitously rude to groups who were born outside of our ordained by God great little group. It clearly seems that we have not.
Why should stupidity not be challenged? Because it has prevailed in the Abrahamic line of religions for a more than a millenium and has been found false on every issue, from masturbation in women kills kittens (that is where the name comes from) to women where actually formed from Adam's rib. The Jews know what happens when these stupid comments become regular and accepted discourse. But then no one initially took Hitler seriously as he did not initially bomb the local pride marches.
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"It makes me laugh when couples with a bi female states no bi males like it's a disease or something. Talk about double standards"
Why makes you laugh? She may be bi,but if the male is not,is just natural he doesn't want a bi guy around him!is not rocket science; |
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"I really don't understand people's attitude to men having sex with men. Why does it bother people what other people do in the bedroom?
The idea of women having sex with each other doesn't turn me on but I have no issue with them doing it. I wouldn't have it in my mind that they had.
I have thought about this quite a lot over the years. I'm happy to live and let live so I'm not anti-gay in a political or moral sense.
However, I'm profoundly repulsed by the thought of gay sex, in exactly the same way that I'm deeply repulsed by the thought of 1ncest, or bestiality, or sc@t play. (Jeez I can't even post these word on this forum)
Unlike many people I don't see this as homophobia. It's not an irrational fear (which is the true meaning of phobia). Rather, it's an instinctive reaction born, I am certain, of Darwinian selection over millennia.
It would be really surprising, given the heterosexual nature of human reproduction, if the majority of people were entirely content with either front or back bottom relationships! Natural selection dictates that the majority must have strong instincts in favour of heterosexual attraction and a certain amount of replusion concerning homosexual acts.
I think the gay community needs to get over themselves on this one and accept that acceptance is all they will ever win from the larger community. 85% of the population will never find homosexual sex appealing, or attractive, or something they should learn to do.
So, I guess that's one reason why we say 'straight only' in our profile."
Hence many bi-men put "FAB Straight" on their profile. |
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The one thing on fab that definitely drives me towards discrimination is being accused of it so often by bi guys simply because I refuse to have sex with them.
Which in turn makes me even less inclined to consider them.
Self fulfilling prophecy perhaps. |
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i don't really think a lot of people don't like anal because of the breeding thing, it's probably more that poop comes out of there so it's off limits for that reason.
is with me anyway. i can joke about poop and the occasional accident but it's always in the back of my mind that there's germs and stuff. although i have done AtM and i didn't think about it that time. |
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Nobody likes rejection.
Fat guys, skinny guys, short guys, bald guys whatever. They don't like it of course but understand personal preference.
It's only bi guys who start hurling accusations of discrimination. |
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Firstly I want to apologise to any women reading my post.
Someone way up at the beginning of this post said this is a liberal site.
Well speaking as a gay man I haven't found it so.
It's such a ridiculous thing to say "you don't like the thought of gay sex! So why think about it ??
Well as a gay man I don't like the thought of sex with a woman, so I don't think about it!!!!
Of course there is freedom of speech and I respect that.
But there is such a thing as sensitivey toward other members on here.
It's not what you say it's how you say it.
What is gay sex a man fucking another man up the arse.
90% of straight men are desperate to fuck a woman up the arse.
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"Firstly I want to apologise to any women reading my post.
Someone way up at the beginning of this post said this is a liberal site.
Well speaking as a gay man I haven't found it so.
It's such a ridiculous thing to say "you don't like the thought of gay sex! So why think about it ??
Well as a gay man I don't like the thought of sex with a woman, so I don't think about it!!!!
Of course there is freedom of speech and I respect that.
But there is such a thing as sensitivey toward other members on here.
It's not what you say it's how you say it.
What is gay sex a man fucking another man up the arse.
90% of straight men are desperate to fuck a woman up the arse.
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i think my first answer came out that way coz i was in the 3sum mindset. that's the only time i think about what guys will do to each other coz we have to all discuss what we're up for amongst ourselves. |
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"Something is bound to offend somebody these days, can't stand political correctness; people should be free to think and do as they please, as well as associate with who they please for whatever reason.
Personally, not got a problem with gays, but let's be honest, the spreading of disease is higher amongst gays for some reason. People are aware of this and it makes people more cautious. "Homophobia" doesn't really play into it."
how uneducated you are and suggest you research your facts before jumping on the stereotypical bandwagon .... you will find they HIV/AID is far more common and wide spread amongst the str8 community than the "gays" ..... what's this thread about again .... |
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"how uneducated you are and suggest you research your facts before jumping on the stereotypical bandwagon .... you will find they HIV/AID is far more common and wide spread amongst the str8 community than the "gays" ..... what's this thread about again .... "
Agreed. HIV In the UK is more common heterosexual community than the lgbt one |
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"Firstly I want to apologise to any women reading my post.
Someone way up at the beginning of this post said this is a liberal site.
Well speaking as a gay man I haven't found it so.
It's such a ridiculous thing to say "you don't like the thought of gay sex! So why think about it ??
Well as a gay man I don't like the thought of sex with a woman, so I don't think about it!!!!
Of course there is freedom of speech and I respect that.
But there is such a thing as sensitivey toward other members on here.
It's not what you say it's how you say it.
What is gay sex a man fucking another man up the arse.
90% of straight men are desperate to fuck a woman up the arse.
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Yes it's interesting to reverse the scenarios. You as a man who acknowledges you don't like the thought of sex with a woman, I'm guessing you would not avoid sex with a bisexual man simply you find the fact that he has had sex with a woman distasteful. In the same way people don't routinely avoid having sex with people who have done a sexual activity in the past that they don't like. The norm is not to think or worry about what that person may have done sexually with another partner. The exception is when a man is bisexual. That is when people start to think about historical sexual activity that is of no concern to them. People can turn a blind eye to other sexual activities they find distasteful. Gay men can turn a blind eye to bisexual men who sleep with women. But for many women, if the man is bisexual, it suddenly become impossible to turn that blind eye. All of a sudden women are thinking about something and getting turned off, when they wouldn't spend any time thinking about any other other sexual activity they find a turn-off. So it makes me wonder if there is something a bit more deep-seated in our supposedly open-minded society that causes a much more extreme reaction to bisexual activity than any other sexual activity. I'm saying this purely out of speculation and my interest in sexual psychology. The issue being discussed don't actually effect me in the least.
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In a misogynistic world it does not surprise me that the attitudes to FF sex and MM sex are poles apart.
My suggestion is come back in about 200 years and hopefully attitudes will have softened. |
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A number of people have mentioned the greater risk of STIs with bisexual men. It is correct that the blood donation service won't let a man give blood if they have had anal sex with another man due to the increased risk of HIV. I'm unsure what that time frame is. However oral sex amongst men is not considered to be a high HIV risk. Certainly vaginal sex is much more risky than oral sex, and anal sexy with a woman is riskier still. Those who avoid playing with bisexual men because they are concerned about the increased risk of HIV, maybe they didn't realise that many bisexual men on Fab are only orally bi for the purposes of a bit of sexual experimentation within an MMF threesome. Many of these men who say they are bi for the purposes of swinging, live their lives as straight men and have no interest in meeting a man alone and certainly would have no interest in anal sex with a man. I think it's a bit of a myth that 'bisexual' men are all fucking each other up the arse and therefore catching nasty diseases. Besides HIV can be spread via a female anus too.
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"I think it's perfectly acceptable to say you don't like "gay sex" people are quite entitled to their likes and dislikes. It's only if they try to stop someone else or change others minds it becomes an issue.
Once you tell people what they personally are allowed to like or dislike you stop being the oppressed and become the oppressor
I think there's a degree of homophobia in those automatically excluding bi men from their search but it's important to remember that degree and that there's a big difference between someone who gets really uncomfortable watching Brokeback Mountain and occasionally uses the words "Fag" or "Queer" and someone with a really militant or violent agenda. Nobody's perfect and we all give in to stereotypes on occasions. If you've seen Avenue Q, you'll know that "Everyone's a little bit Racist". "
Here we go again.
No homophobia here. I don't want to have sex with men who have sex whet other men. Will happily watch Brokeback Mountain or Bel Ami. |
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"A number of people have mentioned the greater risk of STIs with bisexual men. It is correct that the blood donation service won't let a man give blood if they have had anal sex with another man due to the increased risk of HIV. I'm unsure what that time frame is. However oral sex amongst men is not considered to be a high HIV risk. Certainly vaginal sex is much more risky than oral sex, and anal sexy with a woman is riskier still. Those who avoid playing with bisexual men because they are concerned about the increased risk of HIV, maybe they didn't realise that many bisexual men on Fab are only orally bi for the purposes of a bit of sexual experimentation within an MMF threesome. Many of these men who say they are bi for the purposes of swinging, live their lives as straight men and have no interest in meeting a man alone and certainly would have no interest in anal sex with a man. I think it's a bit of a myth that 'bisexual' men are all fucking each other up the arse and therefore catching nasty diseases. Besides HIV can be spread via a female anus too.
Mrs"
Yes but the stats/facts say otherwise. I can give blood if I've not had sex with a gay man. |
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over a year ago
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"Firstly I want to apologise to any women reading my post.
Someone way up at the beginning of this post said this is a liberal site.
Well speaking as a gay man I haven't found it so.
It's such a ridiculous thing to say "you don't like the thought of gay sex! So why think about it ??
Well as a gay man I don't like the thought of sex with a woman, so I don't think about it!!!!
Of course there is freedom of speech and I respect that.
But there is such a thing as sensitivey toward other members on here.
It's not what you say it's how you say it.
What is gay sex a man fucking another man up the arse.
90% of straight men are desperate to fuck a woman up the arse.
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Well said;
"It's not what you say, it's how you say it". |
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"A number of people have mentioned the greater risk of STIs with bisexual men. It is correct that the blood donation service won't let a man give blood if they have had anal sex with another man due to the increased risk of HIV. I'm unsure what that time frame is. However oral sex amongst men is not considered to be a high HIV risk. Certainly vaginal sex is much more risky than oral sex, and anal sexy with a woman is riskier still. Those who avoid playing with bisexual men because they are concerned about the increased risk of HIV, maybe they didn't realise that many bisexual men on Fab are only orally bi for the purposes of a bit of sexual experimentation within an MMF threesome. Many of these men who say they are bi for the purposes of swinging, live their lives as straight men and have no interest in meeting a man alone and certainly would have no interest in anal sex with a man. I think it's a bit of a myth that 'bisexual' men are all fucking each other up the arse and therefore catching nasty diseases. Besides HIV can be spread via a female anus too.
Mrs"
As I've said on previous threads, I wish people who trot out the "higher risk" argument would realise that it does come across as a little offensive or condescending. |
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"A number of people have mentioned the greater risk of STIs with bisexual men. It is correct that the blood donation service won't let a man give blood if they have had anal sex with another man due to the increased risk of HIV. I'm unsure what that time frame is. However oral sex amongst men is not considered to be a high HIV risk. Certainly vaginal sex is much more risky than oral sex, and anal sexy with a woman is riskier still. Those who avoid playing with bisexual men because they are concerned about the increased risk of HIV, maybe they didn't realise that many bisexual men on Fab are only orally bi for the purposes of a bit of sexual experimentation within an MMF threesome. Many of these men who say they are bi for the purposes of swinging, live their lives as straight men and have no interest in meeting a man alone and certainly would have no interest in anal sex with a man. I think it's a bit of a myth that 'bisexual' men are all fucking each other up the arse and therefore catching nasty diseases. Besides HIV can be spread via a female anus too.
Mrs
Yes but the stats/facts say otherwise. I can give blood if I've not had sex with a gay man."
You can also give blood if you've had sex with a man who is only orally bi. |
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By *hoot45Man
over a year ago
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There seems to be a myth that every gay man is desperate either to give or receive anal. I know gay men who have no interest in either and I know straight and bi men who are only interested in anal to the level of obsession and are not interested in chatting or meeting unless anal is involved. What guys do wi their their cocks and bums is up to them, but not all guys are interested in anal. |
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"We need a list of approved reasons that we *can* use when we don't want to have sex with someone even if they were the last person on earth.  "
There is no 'approved list'. People can have sex with who they want to and reject who they want. People are entitled to be illogical or discriminatory - everybody will be to a greater or lesser extent, as we are only human. What I find interesting is why bisexual sex instigates a more extreme reaction than any other sexual activity that people might find distasteful. |
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"We need a list of approved reasons that we *can* use when we don't want to have sex with someone even if they were the last person on earth. "
Haha really these forum post are a bit of a laugh.
I'm a grown up and know if I suck a guys cock or whatever other stuff we wanna do I'm probably not his FIRST!!
I don't wanna know who he had sex with previously. What puts me off is if he Smelly of Nasty niffs, Has No Nersonality, No Senses of Humour the list is long lol |
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"We need a list of approved reasons that we *can* use when we don't want to have sex with someone even if they were the last person on earth. "
How about "cos you don't like the individual" rather than "cos you don't like the group society has arbitrarily shoe-horned them into"? |
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"We need a list of approved reasons that we *can* use when we don't want to have sex with someone even if they were the last person on earth.
How about "cos you don't like the individual" rather than "cos you don't like the group society has arbitrarily shoe-horned them into"? "
Exactly my thoughts !!!! |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Personally, I think it's pathetic to judge a person based on their sexuality. It's small minded and petty. Especially on a site where people regularly indulge in sexual escapades that the majority of society would deem to be entirely unacceptable.
Can people have preferences? Absolutely!
Can they judge people? Fuck no, cheeky bastards!
What gives anyone the right to judge a person for what they enjoy sexually? As long as it's legal, crack on!
PS, someone mentioned that homosexuals have a higher rate of STI's...erm, no. That's bollocks. |
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Oh dear !!!
I've just looked at the national statistic website.
Infected groups
Sex between Men and Men 47.1 %
Sex between Heterosexual. 48.7 %
So you see it's all a myth.
Everyone is vulnerable to the nasty HIV so just be careful xx
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"Oh dear !!!
I've just looked at the national statistic website.
Infected groups
Sex between Men and Men 47.1 %
Sex between Heterosexual. 48.7 %
So you see it's all a myth.
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No, because the MSM numbers are much lower, so the proportion much higher, for instance, out of 6000 odd new HIV infections in 2015 54% were MSM and 15% heterosexual men. Rates and rises and falls in various sti's vary among different groups - it's a shame no-one has statistics for swingers, I for one would like to know! But you have to separate cold hard facts from value judgements. |
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"Oh dear !!!
I've just looked at the national statistic website.
Infected groups
Sex between Men and Men 47.1 %
Sex between Heterosexual. 48.7 %
So you see it's all a myth.
No, because the MSM numbers are much lower, so the proportion much higher, for instance, out of 6000 odd new HIV infections in 2015 54% were MSM and 15% heterosexual men. Rates and rises and falls in various sti's vary among different groups - it's a shame no-one has statistics for swingers, I for one would like to know! But you have to separate cold hard facts from value judgements. "
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That's not quite accurate, it takes into account population density of groups.
It's like the whole blood thing; that was a law introduced in the early 1980's to address the HIV epidemic. Since then, heterosexual contagion has easily outstripped homosexual. They are currently reviewing the now-12 month rule for gay men who are having sex as they are outdated and frankly ridiculous as they count whether someone wears a condom or not. I'm heterosexual and find the misinformation out there quite shocking. It must be so frustrating if you're on the receiving end. |
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"We need a list of approved reasons that we *can* use when we don't want to have sex with someone even if they were the last person on earth.
There is no 'approved list'. People can have sex with who they want to and reject who they want. People are entitled to be illogical or discriminatory - everybody will be to a greater or lesser extent, as we are only human. What I find interesting is why bisexual sex instigates a more extreme reaction than any other sexual activity that people might find distasteful."
I find it interesting too.
I do actually agree that there's no need to be rude about why I don't want to have sex with someone. Hence I use random reasons to avoid offending people cos I'm nice like that.
On the forums I'm more abrupt/ open because it's not personal to anyone in particular so I can be more honest about things. |
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"Oh dear !!!
I've just looked at the national statistic website.
Infected groups
Sex between Men and Men 47.1 %
Sex between Heterosexual. 48.7 %
So you see it's all a myth.
No, because the MSM numbers are much lower, so the proportion much higher, for instance, out of 6000 odd new HIV infections in 2015 54% were MSM and 15% heterosexual men. Rates and rises and falls in various sti's vary among different groups - it's a shame no-one has statistics for swingers, I for one would like to know! But you have to separate cold hard facts from value judgements. .
That's not quite accurate, it takes into account population density of groups.
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The 2016 UK Gov statistic I quoted suggests otherwise, as do all the UKGov reports. And I have no axe to grind - I have met several high risk groups on fab. |
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"Statistics are such bollocks. It's 50% likely someone will have an std. They either will or they won't! There is lies, damned lies and statistics."
Haha yes it's all a load of shit !!! Who really cares
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Nowadays its discrimination against Hetrosexuals which is wrong .... and of course its perfectly acceptable to have a problem with Homosexual activities |
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I dont have a problem with gay guys .... or bi guys ....
Its just my preference that if I choose to have sex its with a straight guy... simples .... and I couldnt give a flying fig what you think .
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"A number of people have mentioned the greater risk of STIs with bisexual men. It is correct that the blood donation service won't let a man give blood if they have had anal sex with another man due to the increased risk of HIV. I'm unsure what that time frame is. However oral sex amongst men is not considered to be a high HIV risk. Certainly vaginal sex is much more risky than oral sex, and anal sexy with a woman is riskier still. Those who avoid playing with bisexual men because they are concerned about the increased risk of HIV, maybe they didn't realise that many bisexual men on Fab are only orally bi for the purposes of a bit of sexual experimentation within an MMF threesome. Many of these men who say they are bi for the purposes of swinging, live their lives as straight men and have no interest in meeting a man alone and certainly would have no interest in anal sex with a man. I think it's a bit of a myth that 'bisexual' men are all fucking each other up the arse and therefore catching nasty diseases. Besides HIV can be spread via a female anus too.
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As I've said on previous threads, I wish people who trot out the "higher risk" argument would realise that it does come across as a little offensive or condescending. "
Tell that to the NHS. |
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I always find it remarkable the amount of people who find the act of a man putting a penis in a mans anus absolutely repulsive, disgusting, and vile, yet enjoy penises being put in women's anuses.
It's homophobia in this case. Pure and simple. The same shit comes out, doesn't matter if you're male or female. Women's shit isn't somehow better than men's. |
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Nowadays its discrimination against Hetrosexuals which is wrong .... and of course its perfectly acceptable to have a problem with Homosexual activities"
It's true why bother about what others think? If they have an issue with it well it's there issue not yours. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?"
Yes it is acceptable as it is a person's honest opinion it is better than being two faced.Honesty is better than PC |
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I have no issue if someone is gay/bi but don't come on here pretending you are not just be honest.
I mean some guys say they are straight or bi curious on here and have like 15 verification's from men or trannies and no women - how many cocks do they need to suck before they admit their not straight or bi but gay.?
Just be honest that's all i request from guys who check me out. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?
Nowadays its discrimination against Hetrosexuals which is wrong .... and of course its perfectly acceptable to have a problem with Homosexual activities
It's true why bother about what others think? If they have an issue with it well it's there issue not yours. "
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"I had a read through of the discrimination against bi thread and saw this post;
"Because I will have it in my mind he's had sex with blokes
I really shouldn't have to explain myself should I?
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Followed by another post;
"Exactly this "
My question is this; is it still acceptable to say you have a problem with gay sex these days?Yes it is acceptable as it is a person's honest opinion it is better than being two faced.Honesty is better than PC"
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"I always find it remarkable the amount of people who find the act of a man putting a penis in a mans anus absolutely repulsive, disgusting, and vile, yet enjoy penises being put in women's anuses.
It's homophobia in this case. Pure and simple. The same shit comes out, doesn't matter if you're male or female. Women's shit isn't somehow better than men's."
No such thing as Homophobia , thats a key hypnotic word concocted by some anti hetrosexial think tank to label and demonise anybody that does not approve of homosexuality |
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"I always find it remarkable the amount of people who find the act of a man putting a penis in a mans anus absolutely repulsive, disgusting, and vile, yet enjoy penises being put in women's anuses.
It's homophobia in this case. Pure and simple. The same shit comes out, doesn't matter if you're male or female. Women's shit isn't somehow better than men's.
No such thing as Homophobia , thats a key hypnotic word concocted by some anti hetrosexial think tank to label and demonise anybody that does not approve of homosexuality"
Is that the same as there being no such thing as a racist? A term. Concocted by some anti white think tank to label and demonise anyone who does not approve of non white people? |
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"No such thing as Homophobia , thats a key hypnotic word concocted by some anti hetrosexial think tank to label and demonise anybody that does not approve of homosexuality"
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
"Somebody that does not approve of homosexuality" is BY DEFINITION a homophobe.
What are you going to do for an encore? Claim that my desire to suck cock as well as eat pussy is 'just a phase' that I'll 'grow out of?' |
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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago
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"I always find it remarkable the amount of people who find the act of a man putting a penis in a mans anus absolutely repulsive, disgusting, and vile, yet enjoy penises being put in women's anuses.
It's homophobia in this case. Pure and simple. The same shit comes out, doesn't matter if you're male or female. Women's shit isn't somehow better than men's.
No such thing as Homophobia , thats a key hypnotic word concocted by some anti hetrosexial think tank to label and demonise anybody that does not approve of homosexuality"
You do know that a "phobia" is a fear of something while conversely a "philia" is a fondness of something? |
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"I always find it remarkable the amount of people who find the act of a man putting a penis in a mans anus absolutely repulsive, disgusting, and vile, yet enjoy penises being put in women's anuses.
It's homophobia in this case. Pure and simple. The same shit comes out, doesn't matter if you're male or female. Women's shit isn't somehow better than men's.
No such thing as Homophobia , thats a key hypnotic word concocted by some anti hetrosexial think tank to label and demonise anybody that does not approve of homosexuality
Is that the same as there being no such thing as a racist? A term. Concocted by some anti white think tank to label and demonise anyone who does not approve of non white people? "
....The Hetrosexual world has a right to air their veiws concerning Homosexual activities and a right to respect for them...
Homophobia is a key hypnotic word generated to stigmatize the Hetrosexual world that does not approve of Homosexual activities...
Such terms are generated oft for propoganda purposes by goverments or by devious scheming men to ostracise and demonise others whom do not share their views...
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"No such thing as Homophobia , thats a key hypnotic word concocted by some anti hetrosexial think tank to label and demonise anybody that does not approve of homosexuality
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
"Somebody that does not approve of homosexuality" is BY DEFINITION a homophobe.
What are you going to do for an encore? Claim that my desire to suck cock as well as eat pussy is 'just a phase' that I'll 'grow out of?'"
Very serious... Homophobia means Fear of Man, therefore a hetrosexual man being a man cannot have a fear of man, also a hetrosexual female cannot have a fear of man as she is naturally attracted to men...
As said this term Homo and Phobia are words placed together by scheming and devious men, which when put together create a horrid sounding label designed for the sole purpose of stigmatizing any hetrosexual person whom does not accept homosexual activities...
Like Rachel you need to be tolerant and respectfull of every hetrosexuals right to hold a view that differs from your own concerning Homosexual activities.. |
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"Homophobia means Fear of Man, therefore a hetrosexual man being a man cannot have a fear of man, also a hetrosexual female cannot have a fear of man as she is naturally attracted to men...As said this term Homo and Phobia are words placed together by scheming and devious men, which when put together create a horrid sounding label designed for the sole purpose of stigmatizing any hetrosexual person whom does not accept homosexual activities...Like Rachel you need to be tolerant and respectfull of every hetrosexuals right to hold a view that differs from your own concerning Homosexual activities.."
What utter tripe. The accepted meaning of homophobia HAS ALWAYS BEEN fear or hatred of homosexual persons, irrespective of their gender identity.
Also, when Homo is used to mean 'man,' it DOES NOT indicate the gender, but the genus to which human beings - HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS - belong.
Consequently, if 'homophobia' meant 'fear of man' in the way you suggest, it would indicate a pathological fear of ALL MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE |
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your entitled to your views darling and respect for them , all you need now is to learn to allow hetrosexuals the same rights of respect and entitlement to have their views apon the subject of Homosexual activities... |
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"your entitled to your views darling and respect for them , all you need now is to learn to allow hetrosexuals the same rights of respect and entitlement to have their views apon the subject of Homosexual activities..."
Oh, I don't deny that they're entitled to their views...I simply see no reason why I should respect the views of people who look upon me as some kind of abomination, simply because I happen to kiss and engage in oral intercourse with other men.
Tell me...would you show me 'respect and entitlement' if I sent you abusive messages referencing your status as transgender, publicly challenged your gender identity, or claimed that you were simply suffering from a mental illness?
I doubt that very much... |
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Tell me...would you show me 'respect and entitlement' if I sent you abusive messages referencing your status as transgender, publicly challenged your gender identity, or claimed that you were simply suffering from a mental illness?
I doubt that very much..."
Yes I would respect their right to hold a sincere opinion of such and if I was offended by their sincere convictions then I would have the problem, not them...
Now you and Rachel follow my example and you will find peace in your life..
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For someone to discriminate or mock you on your sexuality is actually a hate crime. I know this as I actually got someone charged with it. The key to acceptance is except yourself. We're now 2017 not 1977 it's officially the future. What we choose to do sexual or otherwise is or own choices. Someone gender comes from within someone's sexuality is down to personal preference. Some confuse transgender and homosexuality as the same thing. That's just down to dated discrimated views from the 19th century. |
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"For someone to discriminate or mock you on your sexuality is actually a hate crime."
So is discriminating or mocking someone on the grounds of their gender identity.
Under the Equality Act of 2010, it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against someone based on age; disability; gender reassignment; marriage and civil partnership; pregnancy and maternity; race; religion or belief; sex; or sexual orientation.
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"For someone to discriminate or mock you on your sexuality is actually a hate crime.
So is discriminating or mocking someone on the grounds of their gender identity.
Under the Equality Act of 2010, it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against someone based on age; disability; gender reassignment; marriage and civil partnership; pregnancy and maternity; race; religion or belief; sex; or sexual orientation.
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Sexual orientation but as we know from fab a lot claim to be straight. So is spaghetti until it gets hot. |
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"Sexual orientation but as we know from fab a lot claim to be straight. So is spaghetti until it gets hot."
I do not doubt that.
My point was that saying 'there's no such thing as homophobia' is just as nonsensical as saying 'there's no such thing as transphobia.'
While sexual orientation and gender identity are not the same thing, BOTH are protected characteristics, and I am BY NO MEANS required to respect the views of someone calling me a 'fag,' 'poofter,' or 'sissy.' |
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"For someone to discriminate or mock you on your sexuality is actually a hate crime.
So is discriminating or mocking someone on the grounds of their gender identity.
Under the Equality Act of 2010, it is ILLEGAL to discriminate against someone based on age; disability; gender reassignment; marriage and civil partnership; pregnancy and maternity; race; religion or belief; sex; or sexual orientation.
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Indeed, but if you state that the thought of vaginal sex with a woman turns you off you are not guilty of gender discrimination, you are merely stating your sexual preferences. |
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"Indeed, but if you state that the thought of vaginal sex with a woman turns you off you are not guilty of gender discrimination, you are merely stating your sexual preferences."
The point is that people who refer to me as a 'fag' or a 'poofter' ARE NOT simply 'stating their sexual preferences'...they are suggesting that my sexual activities with other men are in some way 'unnatural' or 'perverse'...that's a different matter entirely. |
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"Indeed, but if you state that the thought of vaginal sex with a woman turns you off you are not guilty of gender discrimination, you are merely stating your sexual preferences.
The point is that people who refer to me as a 'fag' or a 'poofter' ARE NOT simply 'stating their sexual preferences'...they are suggesting that my sexual activities with other men are in some way 'unnatural' or 'perverse'...that's a different matter entirely."
Where did anybody say that though on the thread or the statements quoted though? They just don't wanna fuck bi men that's all. |
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"Indeed, but if you state that the thought of vaginal sex with a woman turns you off you are not guilty of gender discrimination, you are merely stating your sexual preferences.
The point is that people who refer to me as a 'fag' or a 'poofter' ARE NOT simply 'stating their sexual preferences'...they are suggesting that my sexual activities with other men are in some way 'unnatural' or 'perverse'...that's a different matter entirely."
I'd say they were just insulting you - but that has nothing to do with the OP of this thread. |
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"Something is bound to offend somebody these days, can't stand political correctness; people should be free to think and do as they please, as well as associate with who they please for whatever reason.
Personally, not got a problem with gays, but let's be honest, the spreading of disease is higher amongst gays for some reason. People are aware of this and it makes people more cautious. "Homophobia" doesn't really play into it. how uneducated you are and suggest you research your facts before jumping on the stereotypical bandwagon .... you will find they HIV/AID is far more common and wide spread amongst the str8 community than the "gays" ..... what's this thread about again .... "
In proportion to the size of the homosexual population? No it is not. |
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"I'd say they were just insulting you - but that has nothing to do with the OP of this thread."
Given that the person to whom I initially responded claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," I would say that is at least relevant to PART of this thread, even if not the OP.
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"Absolutely I openly admit I am bi. Just because I support gay rights, does not make me gay. I support animal rights to that does not make me a penguin."
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"Gay porn is super hot. There's something about seeing two hot guys together that is just 
Me too. But I like group gay porn "
I've seen one or two really hot bi orgies online. You seen the one where they all start off wearing army fatigues? |
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"How has anyone got the time or energy to argue about other people's preferences?
I'm at work and it's a slow night.
You are excused
I knew we could find some common ground eventually. "
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"Gay porn is super hot. There's something about seeing two hot guys together that is just
Me too. But I like group gay porn "
Both porn and real life get better the more penises that touch. |
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