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What's wrong with single men?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I have noticed that a lot of couples who play with other couples, are happy to also play with single ladies but single men are a no no. The same often applies to private parties - couples and single ladies are sought, but no single men.
Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views.
By contrast we hardly ever attend a club without a trusted single male friend in tow, and regard a party where there aren't more men than women decidedly dull. Are there couples who share our love for the extra single gent, and if do what do you like about it?
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Oh I so wish I was closer to you both - would really relish chance to be your trusted male!
Us sole males are ten a penny, and very difficult to stand out from the crowd. Can only imagine how busy an inbox becomes when single males are allowed to throw their cards in..... |
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"Oh I so wish I was closer to you both - would really relish chance to be your trusted male!
Us sole males are ten a penny, and very difficult to stand out from the crowd. Can only imagine how busy an inbox becomes when single males are allowed to throw their cards in....."
Oh I don't think it's easier for single men to meet us. We only need 2 or 3, and there are hundreds of men. So we have to reject the rest along with all the other couples  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A lot of men are obsessed with the idea of mff hence couples seeking single females. In a couple it's quite often about both parties having sex with another person hence seeking other couples. |
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"We now only visit clubs on evenings when single guys are allowed entry. I just love the attention of two, or three or more either individually or together."
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"I have noticed that a lot of couples who play with other couples, are happy to also play with single ladies but single men are a no no. The same often applies to private parties - couples and single ladies are sought, but no single men.
Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views.
By contrast we hardly ever attend a club without a trusted single male friend in tow, and regard a party where there aren't more men than women decidedly dull. Are there couples who share our love for the extra single gent, and if do what do you like about it?
Mrs"
Wiggles likes single guys at clubs, we like to take one of our single friends a lovely chap,but it can be awkward with single costs or ques.
Not noticed a lack of singles at any club though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We occasionally enjoy the company of a nice man on his own.
For us its the excitement of sharing our intimacy and losing our inhibitions with a person who understands the dynamics of a long term and very close couple.
We have met some lovely single men who have been great company and true gentlemen who appreciate that an invitation to join us in our play is a special thing not to be taken lightly. Its not just about the sex, good company is very important, that's why we politely reject men that who are just looking for a fuck.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"A lot of men are obsessed with the idea of mff hence couples seeking single females. In a couple it's quite often about both parties having sex with another person hence seeking other couples."
I get that. Men from couples are likely to want to play with another lady. And of course women from couples often like to play with ladies too. And the only way to be truly fair is for a couple swap. But I'm surprised that there arent as many women hankering after MFM as there are men hankering after MFF. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm sure it's all down to personal preference."
Yes of course it's personal preference. That's obvious. But just as we have reasons for our personal preferences, I'm interested in why others have the preferences they do. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views"
We are one of those couples who don't play with single men.
It boils down to the participation factor for us.
We've nothing against single men whatsoever, it's simply the fact that we both can't play with him. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but....."
Arrh. That old chestnut! Male insecurity? Dislike of sharing between men. Are ladies better at sharing I wonder? |
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but....."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but....."
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views
We are one of those couples who don't play with single men.
It boils down to the participation factor for us.
We've nothing against single men whatsoever, it's simply the fact that we both can't play with him. "
That's true. I have more sexual partners than my husband because of the way we play. He likes it this way. However from time to time he gets itchy feet and will want to play in his own right. It's true what we do can be unfair on the husband. |
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but.....
Arrh. That old chestnut! Male insecurity? Dislike of sharing between men. Are ladies better at sharing I wonder?"
I am not saying men don't like sharing. But some are more fragile and compare performance and size more.
Am I just projecting there ?
Those guys I have met who have no issues at all are just amazing. To love and trust that much is a special thing. |
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but.....
this "
I the male half have no intrest in the single guy, but love sharing wiggles, hell she goes nuts for a good roast and nothing beats a blowjob as the lady is getting fucked.
We do get put off by singles we meet who seem to think women are at clubs as their partners simply don't please them enough.
Heard enough comments like "I'll fuck her like she never had it it before" or the look on a single guys face when he has given it his best, but she instantly jumps on me and say "now the way I like it"
Sure there are plenty of insecure couples with jealous guys and just as many with women. But far more who just love seeing thier partners have fun. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The main reason I'm in favour of single men, is because I get to play with the men of my choosing, which I wouldn't get if we only played with couples. In return I encourage my husband to pursue sex independently so that he doesn't go without (and that turns me on too). Or occasionally we might come across a couple where it works - but that's rare. I'm very lucky that my husband gets kicks out of me being a slut. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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That's true. I have more sexual partners than my husband because of the way we play. He likes it this way. However from time to time he gets itchy feet and will want to play in his own right. It's true what we do can be unfair on the husband. "
I don't necessarily see as unfair to me, or that I'm trying to deny her the extra man she may want. We openly talk about our needs and if she expressed a desire to have another guy then we'd go down separate playmates path.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but.....
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I the male half have no intrest in the single guy, but love sharing wiggles, hell she goes nuts for a good roast and nothing beats a blowjob as the lady is getting fucked.
We do get put off by singles we meet who seem to think women are at clubs as their partners simply don't please them enough.
Heard enough comments like "I'll fuck her like she never had it it before" or the look on a single guys face when he has given it his best, but she instantly jumps on me and say "now the way I like it"
Sure there are plenty of insecure couples with jealous guys and just as many with women. But far more who just love seeing thier partners have fun."
That's the spirit! Nothing better than 2 men working as a team to take good care of an insatiable lady. |
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Ooh yeah an instant no to any single, is if we see or hear the words "ooh I could never share my partner if I had one, i would love them to much" or similar (something we sadly hear or read on fabs to often)
It shows a lack of understanding or worse implies couples no longer care or love thier partners and are swinging only due to a dead sexual relationship.
As to shyness of cock size and partner may get better of single. In 10 years we have seen some fucking monsters and small cocks while swinging.. not one monster did anything the small ones didnt (Other than fail to perform) and far more singles simply failed due to stress, shyness of others watching than couples.
In the end though we have met some great singles along the way, all had the ability to make wiggles laugh and nine had an attitude of thinking they were there to out do our relationship. |
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Btw we are going out tonight and hoping some fun singles turn up, as tbh we are kinda bored of amount of times where we goto clubs and see couples where lady is blatantly only there as guy wants too.
Guy picks a couple and you can tell she really isn't interested... this really puts me off, I would rather wiggles picked all the singles than get lumped with some lady who isn't really interested, worse if she just lays there. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Btw we are going out tonight and hoping some fun singles turn up, as tbh we are kinda bored of amount of times where we goto clubs and see couples where lady is blatantly only there as guy wants too.
Guy picks a couple and you can tell she really isn't interested... this really puts me off, I would rather wiggles picked all the singles than get lumped with some lady who isn't really interested, worse if she just lays there."
Totally. This is how my husband feels. He gets more pleasure out of me enjoying a man of my choice, then us jointly playing with a couple and me not enjoying the man so much. |
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"Totally. This is how my husband feels. He gets more pleasure out of me enjoying a man of my choice, then us jointly playing with a couple and me not enjoying the man so much. "
Agreed from experience with playing with couples a lot of the guys get off and turned on seeing their lady being pleasured and having fun with another guy.
There seems to be too much of a fantasy of the elusive ffm threesome. Where the woman isn't really bi and not actually enjoying it and only doing it to please her man. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A lot of men are obsessed with the idea of mff hence couples seeking single females. In a couple it's quite often about both parties having sex with another person hence seeking other couples.
I get that. Men from couples are likely to want to play with another lady. And of course women from couples often like to play with ladies too. And the only way to be truly fair is for a couple swap. But I'm surprised that there arent as many women hankering after MFM as there are men hankering after MFF."
I'm not saying it is, but perhaps because some women are only swinging to please their man and it's the man who is wanting 2 women. Just a thought. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Totally. This is how my husband feels. He gets more pleasure out of me enjoying a man of my choice, then us jointly playing with a couple and me not enjoying the man so much.
Agreed from experience with playing with couples a lot of the guys get off and turned on seeing their lady being pleasured and having fun with another guy.
There seems to be too much of a fantasy of the elusive ffm threesome. Where the woman isn't really bi and not actually enjoying it and only doing it to please her man. "
I get this impression from a lot of couples, and it's not my idea of a fun MFF. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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At the moment we only invite males for a mmf but hard to find 1 as they are either a timewaster or pushy sending heaps and heaps oh msgs even tho u say no. Or there first msg is let me fuck u at just doesn't work for us |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hiiiii single man here love playing with couples in mfm threesomes.
Reality of meeting a ffm is as much chance as winning the lottery ..."
FFM do regularly happen. |
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There seems to be too much of a fantasy of the elusive ffm threesome. Where the woman isn't really bi and not actually enjoying it and only doing it to please her man.
I get this impression from a lot of couples, and it's not my idea of a fun MFF."
Agreed end of the day everyone should be having fun and enjoying the threesome not just the one individual. |
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We get tons of spam of single self proclaimed Alpha males.. It's an instant turn off for wiggles.
She likes a guy who can laugh, be confident but not act like the world own him something.
Have seen many a guy at a club who was buff and wiggles smiled when they walked in, only to turn around latter to find her all over some other guy who isn't her normal choice and be told "omg he is so funny, I couldn't help myself" |
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"We get tons of spam of single self proclaimed Alpha males.. It's an instant turn off for wiggles.
She likes a guy who can laugh, be confident but not act like the world own him something.
Have seen many a guy at a club who was buff and wiggles smiled when they walked in, only to turn around latter to find her all over some other guy who isn't her normal choice and be told "omg he is so funny, I couldn't help myself""
Well this is it as much as there is physical attraction you need to be able to have a laugh and feel comfortable with someone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The reason is this I think couples like playing with females more is because they both partners are having with a female where in case of a single male only the female partners is having all the fun which is a turn off for most male partners that if his straight, As for bi male they are more lightly to have fun with bi couples in the lifestyle of swinging. HAPPY SWINGING ALL   |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We love single males but by and large we get more abuse of messages from them vs couples.
Might sound odd but when we say "we don't do first meets for unverified profiles" it doesn't matter how many times you've "been here before" you are getting the same response whether you are a male, female or couple.
There are some excellent verified males on Fab and we thank our lucky stars all experiences with them have been good ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've lost count of the amount of men who ask to become a couple on here, so they can get another woman to join us. They aren't so enthusiastic when I say I would be wanting men and not women, if we're having a 3 some.
I'm also put off from joining as a couple because, looking at profiles, a lot of couples have couples and soft swap only, or single women. If we swap, we swap fully and same room. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We love single males but by and large we get more abuse of messages from them vs couples.
Might sound odd but when we say "we don't do first meets for unverified profiles" it doesn't matter how many times you've "been here before" you are getting the same response whether you are a male, female or couple.
There are some excellent verified males on Fab and we thank our lucky stars all experiences with them have been good ones."
your right in a way but there are a lot men here who are finding it harder than verified because they can't been verified   |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We love single males but by and large we get more abuse of messages from them vs couples.
Might sound odd but when we say "we don't do first meets for unverified profiles" it doesn't matter how many times you've "been here before" you are getting the same response whether you are a male, female or couple.
There are some excellent verified males on Fab and we thank our lucky stars all experiences with them have been good ones. your right in a way but there are a lot men here who are finding it harder than verified because they can't been verified "
Nobody was born verified - all verified men started somewhere. But there are simply too many men to go round for all men to get a chance of a verification. |
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"Nobody was born verified - all verified men started somewhere. But there are simply too many men to go round for all men to get a chance of a verification."
Exactly this
Time and patience is the only way |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views
We are one of those couples who don't play with single men.
It boils down to the participation factor for us.
We've nothing against single men whatsoever, it's simply the fact that we both can't play with him. "
More openly bi women than openly bi men.
Dynamics are different with 2 couples or 3 people. Risk of 'odd one out' with 3.
Not many decent men to choose from.
Perhaps the theory that a single man might be selfish sexually, whereas with 2 couples the dynamic is more '1 on 1' in a way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We get tons of spam of single self proclaimed Alpha males.. It's an instant turn off for wiggles.
She likes a guy who can laugh, be confident but not act like the world own him something.
Have seen many a guy at a club who was buff and wiggles smiled when they walked in, only to turn around latter to find her all over some other guy who isn't her normal choice and be told "omg he is so funny, I couldn't help myself""
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I never worry about couples just wanting girls or other couples, if that what they are after there is no reason not to respect it.
I meet enough nice friendly people at clubs and even if we don't get to play right away it is still usually and really good social and laugh and play further down the line.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have noticed that a lot of couples who play with other couples, are happy to also play with single ladies but single men are a no no. The same often applies to private parties - couples and single ladies are sought, but no single men.
Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views.
By contrast we hardly ever attend a club without a trusted single male friend in tow, and regard a party where there aren't more men than women decidedly dull. Are there couples who share our love for the extra single gent, and if do what do you like about it?
Mrs"
Some of the time its for reasons where the man of a couple doesnt want to share his wife getting fucked by another guy unless hes got the other guys woman to fuck ?
Alot of guys are only into swinging because its an easier for them to get their dick wet with new pussy when part of a couple and if that means having to share their woman with another guy to do that then they will do it. But they if theres no new pussy for them to fuck they arnt interested.
Thats why alot of guys of couples prefer to invite a single woman into their bed than another guy as thats what the guy wants and he has best of both worlds and doesnt have to share his wife/partner with another guy.
Some guys in places like also partner up with women just so they have more chance of being invited to parties other couples homes and to get another women in for a threesome etc as its easier to do that as part of a couple than it would be as a single guy.
Can be very one sided at times ive noticed.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I have noticed that a lot of couples who play with other couples, are happy to also play with single ladies but single men are a no no. The same often applies to private parties - couples and single ladies are sought, but no single men.
Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views.
By contrast we hardly ever attend a club without a trusted single male friend in tow, and regard a party where there aren't more men than women decidedly dull. Are there couples who share our love for the extra single gent, and if do what do you like about it?
Mrs
Some of the time its for reasons where the man of a couple doesnt want to share his wife getting fucked by another guy unless hes got the other guys woman to fuck ?
Alot of guys are only into swinging because its an easier for them to get their dick wet with new pussy when part of a couple and if that means having to share their woman with another guy to do that then they will do it. But they if theres no new pussy for them to fuck they arnt interested.
Thats why alot of guys of couples prefer to invite a single woman into their bed than another guy as thats what the guy wants and he has best of both worlds and doesnt have to share his wife/partner with another guy.
Some guys in places like also partner up with women just so they have more chance of being invited to parties other couples homes and to get another women in for a threesome etc as its easier to do that as part of a couple than it would be as a single guy.
Can be very one sided at times ive noticed.
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over a year ago
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I think someone above made a very good point that was almost totally disregarded.
"More openly bi women than men"
Its not because there are, its because peoples attitudes suck.
Also, It does depend on your level of bi, we joke that if anything happened to me there is more chance of H ending up in another ff relationship craving the occasional cock than the other way round. She also meets ladies on her own when she wants to.
So sometimes it's mff as a choice not because of the guy, I also have little interest in watching unless i'm having a breather 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Ive met some extremely nice single men who enjoy me for me. Not as a 'ticket' to get sex with other people. People thinking along those lines obviously don't have much respect for others.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ive met some extremely nice single men who enjoy me for me. Not as a 'ticket' to get sex with other people. People thinking along those lines obviously don't have much respect for others.
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Seems fair. You would be surprised the amount of these threads become intensely passive aggressive. I have also noticed that a lot of the "I love single men" types are often women who get mightily insecure about better looking women getting more attention than them. There is this incredibly asinine idea that only men get jealous. I have heard plenty of women tell me that they feel highly threatened by hotter women in the club environment...in fact I would say, considering how women are, its probably even more common.
Swinging has always been couple centric...on both sides. Hence why a lot of clubs (the good ones at least) cater heavily to couples and some swingers resorts will let people know that they will do far better being part of one.
I have no reason to believe that women who claim to "love single men" are not equally insecure about losing attention to another woman. Kinda tired of insecurity and jealousy being passed off as an exclusively male trait on here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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it's the couples dynamic that really interests us...the interaction between 4 individuals who have some degree of emotional commitment to their partner seems to worl for us...we've found very few single men who actually get that...
apart from that, I have absolutely no interest in being fucked by random single guys, it really does nothing for me...boobs |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Ive met some extremely nice single men who enjoy me for me. Not as a 'ticket' to get sex with other people. People thinking along those lines obviously don't have much respect for others.
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When I used the word 'ticket' I was more referring to husbands who use their wife as a ticket to the swing scene. But it was a specific situation that I was thinking of, and this is by no means a reflection on all couples who don't play with single men. I wasn't referring to single men who might use a female friend for the same, and having not experienced the swing scene as a single I can't comment on that. |
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over a year ago
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude."
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn* |
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over a year ago
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude."
that not nice to say about couples its their right who they like to have fun with..  |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn*"
Not all single men think that. Some guys who will work as a team with the husband for the ladies maximum enjoyment. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think someone above made a very good point that was almost totally disregarded.
"More openly bi women than men"
Its not because there are, its because peoples attitudes suck.
Also, It does depend on your level of bi, we joke that if anything happened to me there is more chance of H ending up in another ff relationship craving the occasional cock than the other way round. She also meets ladies on her own when she wants to.
So sometimes it's mff as a choice not because of the guy, I also have little interest in watching unless i'm having a breather
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All very valid reasons, and different couples will enjoy different things. But in our experience a straight MFM threesome can still be full envolvement for all three people, and no need for the husband/partner to feel he has to watch if he doesn't want to. For example my husband might fuck me whilst I sucking off the other guy, or vice versa. The only thing he doesn't get when we play with a single guy is another woman to fuck. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude. that not nice to say about couples its their right who they like to have fun with.. "
That is right it is, was just giving another opinion of why lol. |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude. that not nice to say about couples its their right who they like to have fun with.. That is right it is, was just giving another opinion of why lol."
And it is probably a reason for some couples. There are loads of reasons. |
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"The main reason I'm in favour of single men, is because I get to play with the men of my choosing, which I wouldn't get if we only played with couples. In return I encourage my husband to pursue sex independently so that he doesn't go without (and that turns me on too). Or occasionally we might come across a couple where it works - but that's rare. I'm very lucky that my husband gets kicks out of me being a slut."
From the couples I play with - thats the reason they play with single guys - with two couples, the chances of each wife fancying the other husband and vice versa are small - I can do the probabilities for you ! Its just higher hit rate with the wife fancying the single guy
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude. that not nice to say about couples its their right who they like to have fun with.. That is right it is, was just giving another opinion of why lol.
And it is probably a reason for some couples. There are loads of reasons. "
That is right, there are loads of reasons. |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn*"
I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of single guys (including me) who don't think like that.
Perhaps just the ones you've unfortunately bumped into.
I've had meets with dozens of couples, and that has never been my approach in a meet. |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn*
I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of single guys (including me) who don't think like that.
Perhaps just the ones you've unfortunately bumped into.
I've had meets with dozens of couples, and that has never been my approach in a meet. "
And that my friend is why you get said meets, you understand how it all works |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn*
Not all single men think that. Some guys who will work as a team with the husband for the ladies maximum enjoyment. "
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"Ive been with a couple where her partner got jelous half way through and started getting uncortable when she was paying me attention was verry awkward to say the least"
This is always a fear of mine. This is why I usually chat to couples quite a lot before I agree to meet them, as jealousy issues amongst couples can often rear its ugly head. |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude."
Same can also be said in ffm threesome where there is more attention on the new female. As opposed to the wife / gf . |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
Same can also be said in ffm threesome where there is more attention on the new female. As opposed to the wife / gf ."
That is right too |
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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude."
In our experience there is nothing further from the truth. Swinging for couples is all about sharing the experience and the enjoyment. The more the woman enjoys herself the more the man gets turned on. And don't think that the "wife enjoys it more with the other dude" - it is the situation she is enjoying. As a general rule any guy that sees himself as a good fuck is pretty useless - it is always those that leave their ego at home that give me the best time. |
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This she may enjoy it more and he may get jealous makes us laugh.
10 years we have learned one thing in swinging.. you may think you are God's gift in bed but if a couple love each other and know each other well, then you arnt ever going to hit the spots that they do between each other.
This goes for couples with couples, or singles.. we have had some amazzing sex with couples and singles, but after 20 years only wiggles can wind me up in her special way. All the rest is just foreplay. |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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At the end of the day the issue boils down to the same thing as always, Preferences. I think the numbers requesting mff,mmf are about equal, what isn't is the number of single guys & single females that will play with couples.
Seems to me far more single guys will play with couples as a % of the whole than the single ladies will. Now remember that the guys outweigh the girls probably 20/1 in the first place and you have a massive mismatch of numbers available..
Ergo more disappointed mff couples & more disappointed single guys.
S |
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By *D835Man
over a year ago
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn*
I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of single guys (including me) who don't think like that.
Perhaps just the ones you've unfortunately bumped into.
I've had meets with dozens of couples, and that has never been my approach in a meet.
And that my friend is why you get said meets, you understand how it all works "
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"At the end of the day the issue boils down to the same thing as always, Preferences. I think the numbers requesting mff,mmf are about equal, what isn't is the number of single guys & single females that will play with couples.
Seems to me far more single guys will play with couples as a % of the whole than the single ladies will. Now remember that the guys outweigh the girls probably 20/1 in the first place and you have a massive mismatch of numbers available..
Ergo more disappointed mff couples & more disappointed single guys.
S"
Because the man gets the woman in the couple. The woman doesn't always get the man in the couple, and has to fuck the wife if she did. |
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"I reckon it is because the guy in the couple would get jelous if the wife enjoyed it more with the other dude.
...aaaand...there you have it...the other reason we don't meet them...they imagine we swing because somehow I'm unsatisfied with my partner and I need them to "fuck me right"...*yawn*
I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of single guys (including me) who don't think like that.
Perhaps just the ones you've unfortunately bumped into.
I've had meets with dozens of couples, and that has never been my approach in a meet.
And that my friend is why you get said meets, you understand how it all works
Thanks "
Did they approach you because you're black and have a big cock? Just wondering because black men seem to do well with white couples. I'm thinking it's because the husband likes to see his wife fucked by a black man. |
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"How many couples who want a single woman do not want a straight one just for the husband?
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We are happy with either if we like the lady, if she is straight wiggles is happy not to touch her or simply watch, she found out watching me is rather fun and likewise in reverse.
Same as we have met few couples where was no contact between some members of group. |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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Do what we do find a very convincing TV that bottoms with me & tops & bottoms with H (She does love that strapon!).
Oh & they've a bigger nicer cock than me & are less than half my age, So that's another theory in the bin.
S |
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"Do what we do find a very convincing TV that bottoms with me & tops & bottoms with H (She does love that strapon!).
Oh & they've a bigger nicer cock than me & are less than half my age, So that's another theory in the bin.
S"
One person's experience does not disprove a theory. |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"Do what we do find a very convincing TV that bottoms with me & tops & bottoms with H (She does love that strapon!).
Oh & they've a bigger nicer cock than me & are less than half my age, So that's another theory in the bin.
S
One person's experience does not disprove a theory. "
True & one persons comment "Its cos they get jealous" does not make it a fact.
Although for some no doubt it is, for others no doubt it isn't.
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"Ive been with a couple where her partner got jelous half way through and started getting uncortable when she was paying me attention was verry awkward to say the least
This is always a fear of mine. This is why I usually chat to couples quite a lot before I agree to meet them, as jealousy issues amongst couples can often rear its ugly head."
This is why I prefer to play with couples who are 100% established in their relationship. I'm happy being single so a simple chat over the phone can put everyone's mind at ease. |
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"Do what we do find a very convincing TV that bottoms with me & tops & bottoms with H (She does love that strapon!).
Oh & they've a bigger nicer cock than me & are less than half my age, So that's another theory in the bin.
S
One person's experience does not disprove a theory.
True & one persons comment "Its cos they get jealous" does not make it a fact.
Although for some no doubt it is, for others no doubt it isn't.
S"
True. I go by my own experiences and that of others. |
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Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol"
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder "
lol even that's dried up |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder lol even that's dried up "
Paulio you need to get yourself known and network. Nearly all the guys we know we either met at a club/party or were referred by someone we know or are verified by people we know. The couples we know well who play with single men take the same approach. As far as we are concerned there is absalutely no need to find a man on Fab when we can get a more reliable outcome through a club or a recommendation. And most of the men we know we would not bother with if it was just their profile alone. Use Fab only as a catalyst. Also with regards to clubs, you'll normally pay the same as the same man attending with a lady, but the lady effectively gets in free. |
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"Some would say that a lot of men in these couples are worried that their Mrs will get too good a portion from another guy and realise that he isn't the be all.
I wouldn't even imply this, but....."
I don't get this. We've never met such a couple. We have however met many single guys who don't 'get' the dynamic. |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder lol even that's dried up
Paulio you need to get yourself known and network. Nearly all the guys we know we either met at a club/party or were referred by someone we know or are verified by people we know. The couples we know well who play with single men take the same approach. As far as we are concerned there is absalutely no need to find a man on Fab when we can get a more reliable outcome through a club or a recommendation. And most of the men we know we would not bother with if it was just their profile alone. Use Fab only as a catalyst. Also with regards to clubs, you'll normally pay the same as the same man attending with a lady, but the lady effectively gets in free. "
you are such a wise owl! Always good advice! x |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder lol even that's dried up
Paulio you need to get yourself known and network. Nearly all the guys we know we either met at a club/party or were referred by someone we know or are verified by people we know. The couples we know well who play with single men take the same approach. As far as we are concerned there is absalutely no need to find a man on Fab when we can get a more reliable outcome through a club or a recommendation. And most of the men we know we would not bother with if it was just their profile alone. Use Fab only as a catalyst. Also with regards to clubs, you'll normally pay the same as the same man attending with a lady, but the lady effectively gets in free. you are such a wise owl! Always good advice! x"
The only reason I'm saying this to you is because you had a regular couple before. That speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned. |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder lol even that's dried up
Paulio you need to get yourself known and network. Nearly all the guys we know we either met at a club/party or were referred by someone we know or are verified by people we know. The couples we know well who play with single men take the same approach. As far as we are concerned there is absalutely no need to find a man on Fab when we can get a more reliable outcome through a club or a recommendation. And most of the men we know we would not bother with if it was just their profile alone. Use Fab only as a catalyst. Also with regards to clubs, you'll normally pay the same as the same man attending with a lady, but the lady effectively gets in free. you are such a wise owl! Always good advice! x
The only reason I'm saying this to you is because you had a regular couple before. That speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned."
I did we played at least once sometimes twice a month for just over 2years, I do miss them they moved and they don't play anymore else I'd drive to meet up with them |
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"Yes us singles have a tough time in the swinging world! Over charged to get in the club's then nobody gives us a chance on fab! Couples say they're after nice normal respectful guys with veryfications, I tick most boxes yet still cannot seal even a sodding social unless I chat to someone in a club , I wouldn't mind but I know I'm no oil painting yet know I'm not hideous either! Just do get fab at times lol
Least you're doing well on POF and Tinder lol even that's dried up
Paulio you need to get yourself known and network. Nearly all the guys we know we either met at a club/party or were referred by someone we know or are verified by people we know. The couples we know well who play with single men take the same approach. As far as we are concerned there is absalutely no need to find a man on Fab when we can get a more reliable outcome through a club or a recommendation. And most of the men we know we would not bother with if it was just their profile alone. Use Fab only as a catalyst. Also with regards to clubs, you'll normally pay the same as the same man attending with a lady, but the lady effectively gets in free. you are such a wise owl! Always good advice! x
The only reason I'm saying this to you is because you had a regular couple before. That speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned. I did we played at least once sometimes twice a month for just over 2years, I do miss them they moved and they don't play anymore else I'd drive to meet up with them "
Great so you'll understand the dynamics then. That puts you ahead of the game. And most men don't have what it takes to have a regular couple. |
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"This is very wise we are far to common and sometimes the few can ruin it for the many "
It's getting more and more that the many ruin it for the few lately....! |
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"This is very wise we are far to common and sometimes the few can ruin it for the many
It's getting more and more that the many ruin it for the few lately....!"
On the contrary, the idiots make the decent ones stand out even more for me |
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"I have noticed that a lot of couples who play with other couples, are happy to also play with single ladies but single men are a no no. The same often applies to private parties - couples and single ladies are sought, but no single men.
Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views.
By contrast we hardly ever attend a club without a trusted single male friend in tow, and regard a party where there aren't more men than women decidedly dull. Are there couples who share our love for the extra single gent, and if do what do you like about it?
Mrs"
Mainly because we want to play with others, and a big part of that play is for Niki to enjoy her Bi side, which means single men wouldnt work for us, so we're not interested in them. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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As a single woman, I play with single women and single men but not with couples
As a couple, we play with single women and couples but not with single men
For us, the common denominator is single women; couples are easier to find and one doesn't even have to look for single men. These are the facts, as we have experienced |
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As a single guy, I don't mind the higher price for club entry etc.
I completely understand why it is the case - if it were cheaper, there's the danger of *too* many guys attending.
Same sort of principle applies for couples/women writing on their profile "No Single Men". There's a huge supply of us, so it's the buyers choice
Very interesting to read bits and bobs on this thread, though. Thanks Classy |
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"As a single guy, I don't mind the higher price for club entry etc.
I completely understand why it is the case - if it were cheaper, there's the danger of *too* many guys attending.
Same sort of principle applies for couples/women writing on their profile "No Single Men". There's a huge supply of us, so it's the buyers choice
Very interesting to read bits and bobs on this thread, though. Thanks Classy "
Ive never pay anymore to get into a club than the average nightclub.
So for that reason I prefer to meet socially or parties etc.
Plus I prefer those get togethers anyway. |
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"I have noticed that a lot of couples who play with other couples, are happy to also play with single ladies but single men are a no no. The same often applies to private parties - couples and single ladies are sought, but no single men.
Not passing judgement on how people enjoy this lifestyle as we are all different, but curious as to why single ladies are usually welcome but single men are not. Would love to people's views.
By contrast we hardly ever attend a club without a trusted single male friend in tow, and regard a party where there aren't more men than women decidedly dull. Are there couples who share our love for the extra single gent, and if do what do you like about it?
Mrs"
certain very selected ones are acceptable to us!!! lol |
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Ive never pay anymore to get into a club than the average nightclub.
So for that reason I prefer to meet socially or parties etc.
Plus I prefer those get togethers anyway. "
That's totally fine too. I am often the same as you. Different nights out for different moods!
As long as the club entry fee isn't extortionate (some parties can be, too, I guess) - I find it fine. |
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Ive never pay anymore to get into a club than the average nightclub.
So for that reason I prefer to meet socially or parties etc.
Plus I prefer those get togethers anyway.
That's totally fine too. I am often the same as you. Different nights out for different moods!
As long as the club entry fee isn't extortionate (some parties can be, too, I guess) - I find it fine. "
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As the female half of our couple, I do understand why my husband would prefer a couple or single female.
As other people have said, this gives us both play time as I am bi.
If there was just a single guy then I'm sure he thinks he'd be left with nothing to do at times!
Not that I'd let that happen. If it was up to me we'd definitely meet single guys too.
Maybe time will change his opinion on this or maybe not. I'll always respect his choices and he will with mine.
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"And on top of that single males are charged twice or three times as much to enter clubs "
They are usually charged the same as a couple. When we go to Eurekas with our usual playmate, he pay £30 and my husband pays £30. |
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