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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?"
I think for some people it might be. However most hopefully soon work out if its not for them before it gets to that point. I only speak for myself on this of course.
Sex for me is still quite a big deal, I hate the fuck and go concept because I need more. There was a time I used sex as a vehicle just to get intimacy. I soon realised this and stopped.
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In the wise words of one of my old work colleagues " a shit fuck beats the hell out of a good wank".
What I think he was trying to say is making lust to someone, no matter how unfeeling it is, even if it is bad is far, in a way, better than a jolly good tug. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
I think for some people it might be. However most hopefully soon work out if its not for them before it gets to that point. I only speak for myself on this of course.
yes I fully understand and get your thought process here . I believe fuck and go sex as you put it is about avoidance not exploration .
Sex for me is still quite a big deal, I hate the fuck and go concept because I need more. There was a time I used sex as a vehicle just to get intimacy. I soon realised this and stopped.
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yes I fully understand and get your thought process here . I believe fuck and go sex as you put it is about avoidance of feelings truths not exploration of feeling and truth. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's way too early for this op  "
I've started it early to give people time to fully think about sex and the question before answering .
those who bring something true and thoughtful to this discussion i will enjoy debating with around 12 today when I'm in from work . |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"In the wise words of one of my old work colleagues " a shit fuck beats the hell out of a good wank".
What I think he was trying to say is making lust to someone, no matter how unfeeling it is, even if it is bad is far, in a way, better than a jolly good tug."
maybe soo but does it stunt ones growth as a human being which in term stunts ones ability to process complex emotions which in turn will condemn one to a life with out any true meaningful relationships because one lacks the skill set need to function in a meaningful relationships . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
I think for some people it might be. However most hopefully soon work out if its not for them before it gets to that point. I only speak for myself on this of course.
Sex for me is still quite a big deal, I hate the fuck and go concept because I need more. There was a time I used sex as a vehicle just to get intimacy. I soon realised this and stopped.
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Same here, it's only recently I've properly realised that I'd associated sex and intimacy so closely, so I'm working to undo that now.
As for the meaningless sex I think it does depend on the person. For example, all the sex I have is meaningful in one way or another, even if that's not a feeling that's shared with my partner. |
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Is there such a thing as meaningless sex, after all it has its meaning in whatever context it's enjoyed.. it can be a deep and spiritual thing between two (or more) people who have strong feelings for each other or it could be simply a purely physical activity from which two (or more,again) derive a release of kinds... even a "fuck n go" arrangement has its meaning depending upon what the parties involved wish to gain from it.. personally I think it boils down to individual perspective, it's whatever you want it to be and doesn't necessarily inhibit growth morally or spiritually.
Just my opinion and probably wrong, it normally is |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For regular I have to have cuddles as well as sex. So although it's basically just sex, it does mean something to me.
I also like one offs but they aren't meaningless as I do them more for fun and excitement than the actual sex. So all my meets are meanful in their own way.
It can be damaging though if I have got too attached to the male and they haven't done likewise. XXX |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As sex releases endorphins and serotonin and is proven to be good exercise, it is good for you on a physical level whether or not you are compatible or not mentally.
Therefore a good anonymous fuck can be great to release stress and can be deliciously enjoyable.
Works for me!
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but do the have to be mutually exclusive ? why cant someone who is caring and understanding have 'meaningless' sex . i suppose it depends on the interpretation of meaningless . im an easy going happy big lad and would like to think i treat everyone with care and respect . of course sex is always better if there is that spark and connection where intimacy rules but there is times where a meet can be a fuck and fo scenario . the scenario itself can be the turn on . that said i cant and wouldnt meet anyone that i wasnt attracted to just for sex . tbe every holes a goal squad is a differnt kettle of fish entirley |
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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago
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Why does sex have to have a meaning if it's something you enjoy?
Surely enjoyment is meaning enough...
I believe the bigger question is would you be able to settle into a "vanilla" and monogamous relationship after leading a swingers lifestyle? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If it's meaningless, then what's the point of doing it?
If, you have sex with someone, just because they have a vagina (or vice versa cock for ladies) and no other attraction, then (imo) you're an idiot.
For me, if there's no chemistry, lust, desire,
my bits remain in my pants. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I got thinking about something similar recently. I was wondering if you had to be emotionally colder to do NSA or meaningless sex as you call it. Or is it a case of being better than others at controlling these emotions? Does that in itself make you colder?
Will constantly suppressing these emotions fcuk you up long-term?
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"In the wise words of one of my old work colleagues " a shit fuck beats the hell out of a good wank".
What I think he was trying to say is making lust to someone, no matter how unfeeling it is, even if it is bad is far, in a way, better than a jolly good tug.
maybe soo but does it stunt ones growth as a human being which in term stunts ones ability to process complex emotions which in turn will condemn one to a life with out any true meaningful relationships because one lacks the skill set need to function in a meaningful relationships ."
At the time our ablility to process complex emotions was pretty much limited as much to say confined and neatly boxed in the safe in the back of our consciousness; our relationships relied on brotherhood alone. It was strange but strangely fulfilling situations, and at the time the environments in which we served condemned us to feeling like that. Some would say all aspects of our lives became instinctive. Some of my brothers still find it difficult to functional in all aspects of life and not just relationships. The shits and giggles of being Soldiers.
Suffice to say that I would consider myself almost fully functional and am very lucky to have a wonderful and sexy, yet filthy princess, beside me in all that we do.
Even in this lifestyle there needs to be a 'click' before engaging in our kind of fun.
A bit deep for a Friday |
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By (user no longer on site)
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When we have sex with each other it encompasses every emotion , and is far from meaningless .
When we meet people through swinging there is lust , and carnal desire , but no real meaning other than the aforementioned .
So is the sex we have with others detrimental to our growth as caring understanding human beings ? No , as the desires we and our meet fulfill are met , and although there is no deep love and attachment as a result of it , it sure as hell beats a wank |
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"When we have sex with each other it encompasses every emotion , and is far from meaningless .
When we meet people through swinging there is lust , and carnal desire , but no real meaning other than the aforementioned .
So is the sex we have with others detrimental to our growth as caring understanding human beings ? No , as the desires we and our meet fulfill are met , and although there is no deep love and attachment as a result of it , it sure as hell beats a wank "
 a good wank is pretty good though and not to be sneezed at ( unless like us dirty thoughts inspire sneezing - which is a total other subject) xx |
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"If it's meaningless, then what's the point of doing it?
If, you have sex with someone, just because they have a vagina (or vice versa cock for ladies) and no other attraction, then (imo) you're an idiot.
For me, if there's no chemistry, lust, desire,
my bits remain in my pants. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why does sex have to have a meaning if it's something you enjoy?
Surely enjoyment is meaning enough...
I believe the bigger question is would you be able to settle into a "vanilla" and monogamous relationship after leading a swingers lifestyle? "
Most people are looking for monogamous but with an extra string where both of you have choice of someone or more joining without the commitment of others joining?
I have never really thought about this question. Until it was posted! I have a heart that I wear on my sleeve some may say! I have dated and have had meaningless sex. In both cases attraction is key because if not and you have sex (crap or brill) the next morning or a few minutes after you regret it(I've done some things I do regret lol). Don't wanna tell life story. All I'm saying is if you have sex with someone you're not really attracted to all you're doing is denying your personality to develop?! My opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?"
Sex is only one small aspect of any journey of personal growth. Developing empathy and a sense of self within the wider context of society comes from far more experience than purely sexual encounters. if you're able to develop yourself outside if that sphere, then perhaps more meaningful sexual encounters can ensue...whether within relationships or within one off scenarios... |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
Whats meaningless sex in your opinion?
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sex where its all about getting the sex that kind of attitude is why there is so much negativity on show on your average day on here and is the reason for so much disrespectful behaviour on display by both sexes towards each other in my opinion . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?"
no idea..
I have never had meaningless sex, and I hope I never will |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
Whats meaningless sex in your opinion?
sex where its all about getting the sex that kind of attitude is why there is so much negativity on show on your average day on here and is the reason for so much disrespectful behaviour on display by both sexes towards each other in my opinion ."
so meaningless sex is just about getting the sex? Surely that in itself isn't meaningless as it must be fulfilling a need/want. Not getting that sex would be more likely to lead to the negative behaviour you speak of? |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"Why does sex have to have a meaning if it's something you enjoy?
Surely enjoyment is meaning enough...
I believe the bigger question is would you be able to settle into a "vanilla" and monogamous relationship after leading a swingers lifestyle?
Most people are looking for monogamous but with an extra string where both of you have choice of someone or more joining without the commitment of others joining?
I have never really thought about this question. Until it was posted! I have a heart that I wear on my sleeve some may say! I have dated and have had meaningless sex. In both cases attraction is key because if not and you have sex (crap or brill) the next morning or a few minutes after you regret it(I've done some things I do regret lol). Don't wanna tell life story. All I'm saying is if you have sex with someone you're not really attracted to all you're doing is denying your personality to develop?! My opinion. "
I'm not taking about things like guilt here or what is right or wrong . I'm purely asking a question can not strings easy come easy go forgot your name by Friday after banging you on Monday sex .if someone behaves like over a period of years will it give them a warped perspective that stunts there emotion and spiritual growth to the point where they can not process complex emotions or form complex emotional attachments or commit to long term more rewarding type of relationships be cause they have learn the skill set needed for such things .
I would going off of my chats on here and reading forum posts after forum posts say yes one will and can stunt ones growth as a fully rounded human being with such behaviour. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
Whats meaningless sex in your opinion?
sex where its all about getting the sex that kind of attitude is why there is so much negativity on show on your average day on here and is the reason for so much disrespectful behaviour on display by both sexes towards each other in my opinion .
so meaningless sex is just about getting the sex? Surely that in itself isn't meaningless as it must be fulfilling a need/want. Not getting that sex would be more likely to lead to the negative behaviour you speak of?"
ok see you point but I have never met a sex addict who was truly happy or a well rounded emotional secure emotional giving human being have you . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
Whats meaningless sex in your opinion?
sex where its all about getting the sex that kind of attitude is why there is so much negativity on show on your average day on here and is the reason for so much disrespectful behaviour on display by both sexes towards each other in my opinion .
so meaningless sex is just about getting the sex? Surely that in itself isn't meaningless as it must be fulfilling a need/want. Not getting that sex would be more likely to lead to the negative behaviour you speak of?
ok see you point but I have never met a sex addict who was truly happy or a well rounded emotional secure emotional giving human being have you ."
that's true for any addict though? |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
Whats meaningless sex in your opinion?
sex where its all about getting the sex that kind of attitude is why there is so much negativity on show on your average day on here and is the reason for so much disrespectful behaviour on display by both sexes towards each other in my opinion .
so meaningless sex is just about getting the sex? Surely that in itself isn't meaningless as it must be fulfilling a need/want. Not getting that sex would be more likely to lead to the negative behaviour you speak of?
ok see you point but I have never met a sex addict who was truly happy or a well rounded emotional secure emotional giving human being have you .
that's true for any addict though?"
and there it is the nut of the question when its all about the sex you are addicted to the buzz endorphin hits of the case and reward and like any addict in my opinion .
you are unable to fully function as a normal human being to the detriment of your own long term happiness and of that of those you interact with .
on here when someone says they have lost there mojo could it be there own subconscious exerting pressure for the good of them as a whole by taking away desire saving them from spiralling to far down a unhappy path . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Fuck me this is all a but heavy for a Friday I only loged on to see boobies some lovely juicey pussys and shaply stocking clad legs. Now Im feeling philosophical and pondering the meaning of life the universe and every thing  |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"Fuck me this is all a but heavy for a Friday I only loged on to see boobies some lovely juicey pussys and shaply stocking clad legs. Now Im feeling philosophical and pondering the meaning of life the universe and every thing "
I enjoy it all the mental and the eye candy because with out both I am uninspired to play  |
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"I got thinking about something similar recently. I was wondering if you had to be emotionally colder to do NSA or meaningless sex as you call it. Or is it a case of being better than others at controlling these emotions? Does that in itself make you colder?
Will constantly suppressing these emotions fcuk you up long-term?
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I think there is a difference between "meaningless" and "NSA". There can be meaning and emotion in NSA, just that there is an understanding of the limits of that meaning.
I think totally meaningless sex would be a pretty hollow experience and not something I wish to encounter.
therefore, nothing needs to be supressed in the moment, let it be loving and emotional. It's simply that you are not bound together exclusively because of that particular act. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I got thinking about something similar recently. I was wondering if you had to be emotionally colder to do NSA or meaningless sex as you call it. Or is it a case of being better than others at controlling these emotions? Does that in itself make you colder?
Will constantly suppressing these emotions fcuk you up long-term?
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yes it would plenty of studies prove suppression of emotion is detrimental to long term mental and physical health . |
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?
There's no such thing as meaningless sex."
I agree. It always means something even if it's expressing contempt or satisfying a physical need. |
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I think agreeing to have sex with someone that you don't want to is bad for your 'self' because it allows you to believe you're not worth enough to say no.
I also think that if you feel sex and love or at least deep emotion are an expression of each other meaningless sex will damage you.
If sex were truly meaningless it would have no effect on you at all as it wouldn't be significant. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think agreeing to have sex with someone that you don't want to is bad for your 'self' because it allows you to believe you're not worth enough to say no.
I also think that if you feel sex and love or at least deep emotion are an expression of each other meaningless sex will damage you.
If sex were truly meaningless it would have no effect on you at all as it wouldn't be significant."
interesting i do realise saying sex is meaningless is a lie told by human beings to avoid confronting emotions which is detrimental to ones growth as a human being .
by that I mean when ever some one convinces themselves sex has no meaning past the physical they are doing one of two thing ether lying to themselves or telling the truth if they are telling the truth psychopath comes to mind .
the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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yes I fully understand and get your thought process here . I believe fuck and go sex as you put it is about avoidance of feelings truths not exploration of feeling and truth."
Liberate yourself. Feelings, truths, exploration...it's all subjective. Just because you think a certain way doesn't mean others should.
As previously said, I don't think there's any such thing as meaningless sex. |
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"All my sex means something to me. If it didn't I would have a bag of toys I used regularly. "
yes. ..I think this is why I'm struggling with understanding what meaningless sex is. I don't class NSA one off fucks as meaningless. There are times when they are desired over something that is steeped in emotion. Sometimes it's just good for my well being to do something just for the thrill and the fun of it. Without it having to mean anything significant other than it made me smile. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"If it's not too big a part of your life and to meet a short term physical need then no, but if it's all you have in the way if sex yes I believe it does. "
totally agree with this and could have put it better myself .
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"All my sex means something to me. If it didn't I would have a bag of toys I used regularly.
yes. ..I think this is why I'm struggling with understanding what meaningless sex is. I don't class NSA one off fucks as meaningless. There are times when they are desired over something that is steeped in emotion. Sometimes it's just good for my well being to do something just for the thrill and the fun of it. Without it having to mean anything significant other than it made me smile. "
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"is meaningless sex detrimental to ones growth as a caring understanding giving human being ...?"
But but I believe detrimental to the chances of a normal successful relationship when exposed to prolonged use lol |
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"I think agreeing to have sex with someone that you don't want to is bad for your 'self' because it allows you to believe you're not worth enough to say no.
I also think that if you feel sex and love or at least deep emotion are an expression of each other meaningless sex will damage you.
If sex were truly meaningless it would have no effect on you at all as it wouldn't be significant.
interesting i do realise saying sex is meaningless is a lie told by human beings to avoid confronting emotions which is detrimental to ones growth as a human being .
by that I mean when ever some one convinces themselves sex has no meaning past the physical they are doing one of two thing ether lying to themselves or telling the truth if they are telling the truth psychopath comes to mind .
the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion. "
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think agreeing to have sex with someone that you don't want to is bad for your 'self' because it allows you to believe you're not worth enough to say no.
I also think that if you feel sex and love or at least deep emotion are an expression of each other meaningless sex will damage you.
If sex were truly meaningless it would have no effect on you at all as it wouldn't be significant.
interesting i do realise saying sex is meaningless is a lie told by human beings to avoid confronting emotions which is detrimental to ones growth as a human being .
by that I mean when ever some one convinces themselves sex has no meaning past the physical they are doing one of two thing ether lying to themselves or telling the truth if they are telling the truth psychopath comes to mind .
the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion.
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry. "
I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions I did not mean it any other way .
I question all my action even the one that were instinctive always have and always will , which leads to some comfortable truths about myself I've had to process in the past and no doubt I will have to process in the future as I keep questioning my self during the rest of my life . |
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In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry. "
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
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In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
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we are a conscious social animal that needs the warmth of social interaction sex is a social interaction that's why sex with a sex toy is less satisfying than sex with another human being that alone puts to bed the idea of sex as purely a physical requirement in my humble opinion because if it was we would have evolved in such a way as to not need the input of another to fulfil the physical act in a satisfying way.
plus if it was purely physical we would all be masturbating and never meeting as there would be no need to involve another in the act  |
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I think if a person is only having meaningless sex then it can be detrimental emotionally. I don't enjoy it on a one to one basis. For the kind of sex I enjoy there has to be a good connection. But in a 3 some or more some, as long as I have one person there that I know and trust then the others can be complete one offs |
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the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion.
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions I did not mean it any other way .
I question all my action even the one that were instinctive always have and always will , which leads to some comfortable truths about myself I've had to process in the past and no doubt I will have to process in the future as I keep questioning my self during the rest of my life . "
I think most emotionally mature people question their actions to a certain degree and I think those people are in the majority. It's possibly a mistake to assume that having a different attitude towards sex than oneself means that a person isn't self aware or hasn't questioned their own actions and motives.
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion.
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions I did not mean it any other way .
I question all my action even the one that were instinctive always have and always will , which leads to some comfortable truths about myself I've had to process in the past and no doubt I will have to process in the future as I keep questioning my self during the rest of my life .
I think most emotionally mature people question their actions to a certain degree and I think those people are in the majority. It's possibly a mistake to assume that having a different attitude towards sex than oneself means that a person isn't self aware or hasn't questioned their own actions and motives.
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I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas. |
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the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion.
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions I did not mean it any other way .
I question all my action even the one that were instinctive always have and always will , which leads to some comfortable truths about myself I've had to process in the past and no doubt I will have to process in the future as I keep questioning my self during the rest of my life .
I think most emotionally mature people question their actions to a certain degree and I think those people are in the majority. It's possibly a mistake to assume that having a different attitude towards sex than oneself means that a person isn't self aware or hasn't questioned their own actions and motives.
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I can feel really close to someone, physically, mentally and emotionally, while I'm with them, and not feel attachment. I live for the moment. "
interesting I feel all the above as well attachment to my fwbs but I never let it drive my actions in a negative way . so i to live for the moment and from moment to moment with them . |
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In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
we are a conscious social animal that needs the warmth of social interaction sex is a social interaction that's why sex with a sex toy is less satisfying than sex with another human being that alone puts to bed the idea of sex as purely a physical requirement in my humble opinion because if it was we would have evolved in such a way as to not need the input of another to fulfil the physical act in a satisfying way.
plus if it was purely physical we would all be masturbating and never meeting as there would be no need to involve another in the act "
Hunger can be satisfied with a plate of cheese and biscuits alone in front of the television or by a 7 course banquet with a close personal friend. At the end of each meal certain needs will be satisfied, possibly not the same needs but each experience can be enjoyed for its own merits. |
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I don't know what meaningless sex is. I've met few where it was just sex and I thought that was shit.
But I tend to make my meets an evening or few hours thing.
I had a fb and I often felt cheap with him and that panned out 3 months. So these days I try the social aspect and a night with someone where you've chatted, danced flirted but ends as a one off it's a lot less cold than the fb situation.
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the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion.
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions I did not mean it any other way .
I question all my action even the one that were instinctive always have and always will , which leads to some comfortable truths about myself I've had to process in the past and no doubt I will have to process in the future as I keep questioning my self during the rest of my life .
I think most emotionally mature people question their actions to a certain degree and I think those people are in the majority. It's possibly a mistake to assume that having a different attitude towards sex than oneself means that a person isn't self aware or hasn't questioned their own actions and motives.
I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas. "
"I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions"
it was the quote above that led me to assume what I did. |
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If I am bored. I seek company/friends.
If I am hungry. I eat.
If I am hot/cold. I change my environmental temperature.
If I am horny. I seek sex.
Nothing deeper than satisfying an urge. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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the question was a catch all question designed to allow discussion by being vague in the first place allowing interpretation to aid and give rise discussion.
In the interests of discussion I believe that by entitling the thread Fridays Uncomfortable Question you steered it in a certain direction. I can't agree that the question was an uncomfortable one unless you assume from the start that many people need to question their approach to sex and its possible meaning.
I believe it's possible for the only meaning behind a sexual act to be physical and that isn't necessarily any more damaging to a person than eating a meal when one is hungry.
I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions I did not mean it any other way .
I question all my action even the one that were instinctive always have and always will , which leads to some comfortable truths about myself I've had to process in the past and no doubt I will have to process in the future as I keep questioning my self during the rest of my life .
I think most emotionally mature people question their actions to a certain degree and I think those people are in the majority. It's possibly a mistake to assume that having a different attitude towards sex than oneself means that a person isn't self aware or hasn't questioned their own actions and motives.
I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas.
"I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions"
it was the quote above that led me to assume what I did."
ok I can see how that cane across now you have pointed it out I most certainly could have worded that better some thing alone of line of when one is caught up in the moment one often can forget to question why one is doing something would have been a better wording . |
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I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas.
"I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions"
it was the quote above that led me to assume what I did.
ok I can see how that cane across now you have pointed it out I most certainly could have worded that better some thing alone of line of when one is caught up in the moment one often can forget to question why one is doing something would have been a better wording ."
I see. I think we probably look at things quite differently |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas.
"I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions"
it was the quote above that led me to assume what I did.
ok I can see how that cane across now you have pointed it out I most certainly could have worded that better some thing alone of line of when one is caught up in the moment one often can forget to question why one is doing something would have been a better wording .
I see. I think we probably look at things quite differently "
maybe maybe not who's to say but ive enjoyed your posts and they have offered ideas which is all good in my ipinion xxx |
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I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas.
"I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions"
it was the quote above that led me to assume what I did.
ok I can see how that cane across now you have pointed it out I most certainly could have worded that better some thing alone of line of when one is caught up in the moment one often can forget to question why one is doing something would have been a better wording .
I see. I think we probably look at things quite differently
maybe maybe not who's to say but ive enjoyed your posts and they have offered ideas which is all good in my ipinion xxx "
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over a year ago
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I have not said any of that and if my words imply that then sadly that's a failure on my part while expressing ideas in here and discussing those ideas.
"I think most people don't question themselves and there actions that's why I worded the title as I did because it could lead to a uncomfortable questioning of ones own actions"
it was the quote above that led me to assume what I did.
ok I can see how that cane across now you have pointed it out I most certainly could have worded that better some thing alone of line of when one is caught up in the moment one often can forget to question why one is doing something would have been a better wording .
I see. I think we probably look at things quite differently
maybe maybe not who's to say but ive enjoyed your posts and they have offered ideas which is all good in my ipinion xxx
I enjoy discussion, it sometimes makes me question my ideas and sometimes reinforces them but its all good."
see different but not so different
been a pleasure and please come into my post more often you have a keen mind and i enjoyed reading your posts and would love to read more from you on topics in any future post i may make xxx |
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All behaviour is effected to achieve specific needs, so it thus has meaning. If you have conflicting objectives, either amA or B, then we can select and do either, both or something else. Thankfully we are multitalented as well as able to achieve many of our needs to be met. There's no one standard route for us all - choose and live with whatever meaning you make from your sex, celibacy or other pursuits. |
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over a year ago
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"All behaviour is effected to achieve specific needs, so it thus has meaning. If you have conflicting objectives, either amA or B, then we can select and do either, both or something else. Thankfully we are multitalented as well as able to achieve many of our needs to be met. There's no one standard route for us all - choose and live with whatever meaning you make from your sex, celibacy or other pursuits. "
totally get this view point as everything I ever do is a learning experience because I dissect each experience emotions and all and try to learn from it hoping it will make me a better human a more understanding one by doing so . |
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" condemn one to a life with out any true meaningful relationships because one lacks the skill set need to function in a meaningful relationships ."
Looking at that part...Maybe.
Maybe it's always been the way and I've not noticed until recently but they're seem to be a large number of under 20 or young guys (maybe girls I don't look) joining..
They may not stay long but it does pose the question if they join thinking it's literally sex on a plate where is their thought process .. are the younger generation already devoid of HD skills etc you mention because of the vast range of easily accessible porn? |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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" condemn one to a life with out any true meaningful relationships because one lacks the skill set need to function in a meaningful relationships .
Looking at that part...Maybe.
Maybe it's always been the way and I've not noticed until recently but they're seem to be a large number of under 20 or young guys (maybe girls I don't look) joining..
They may not stay long but it does pose the question if they join thinking it's literally sex on a plate where is their thought process .. are the younger generation already devoid of HD skills etc you mention because of the vast range of easily accessible porn?"
that's a great point and may have merit when you look at rape and sexual assort perpetrated by school children then follow the age scale , things like ravage porn which is high amongst younger people than older people come into play ,so one could say because social interaction is being replace by virtual interaction .can that form of interaction which leads to fuck on go meets starting at a earlier and earlier age hinder and stunt the emotional and spiritual growth off up coming generations .leading to a lack of the skills need to foster and nourish true relationships ever being developed, |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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if anything, internet interaction should promote relationships...it is all about talking, communicating, and sharing thoughts and ideas. more so than being together but distracted by the TV or something.
but more often than not it makes people easily replaceable instead, i've had guys talking to me and giving me their full attention but then and i can tell when they're being distracted by someone else and i'm left feeling like i was being used as a time filler until something better came along. even if the conversation was alright and meaningful until that point.
i think people who do anything meaningless, and without feelings, are not interested in growing as a person at those times. |
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Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare |
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare "
Having said what I just did - I do agree with you. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare "
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with . |
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with ."
In the world of kink I think its vital that people think and reflect. More sexually rounded? I would question that. Are you saying that someone who has a one off sexual encounter with a person whose name they don't know is less sexually rounded, less likely to reflect on their actions and be unaware of their motives for doing so?
I see examples in BDSM where one person dresses abuse up as kink and quite clearly knows that's what it is as does the victim, I don't think that's sexually rounded. I see people who have reflected deeply on their life, their own limits and requirements who choose what you would term meaningless sex.
I simply don't think there's a sexual hierarchy with those who obviously think at the top and those who on the face of it just react to opportunity at the bottom. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with .
In the world of kink I think its vital that people think and reflect. More sexually rounded? I would question that. Are you saying that someone who has a one off sexual encounter with a person whose name they don't know is less sexually rounded, less likely to reflect on their actions and be unaware of their motives for doing so?
I see examples in BDSM where one person dresses abuse up as kink and quite clearly knows that's what it is as does the victim, I don't think that's sexually rounded. I see people who have reflected deeply on their life, their own limits and requirements who choose what you would term meaningless sex.
I simply don't think there's a sexual hierarchy with those who obviously think at the top and those who on the face of it just react to opportunity at the bottom."
No I'm not saying that I'm saying that as someone who has attend many munches in my time. those in the kink world are on the whole less controversial more giving aoristically human beings that a lot not all but a lot of swingers I've had the pleasure of chatting to . |
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with .
In the world of kink I think its vital that people think and reflect. More sexually rounded? I would question that. Are you saying that someone who has a one off sexual encounter with a person whose name they don't know is less sexually rounded, less likely to reflect on their actions and be unaware of their motives for doing so?
I see examples in BDSM where one person dresses abuse up as kink and quite clearly knows that's what it is as does the victim, I don't think that's sexually rounded. I see people who have reflected deeply on their life, their own limits and requirements who choose what you would term meaningless sex.
I simply don't think there's a sexual hierarchy with those who obviously think at the top and those who on the face of it just react to opportunity at the bottom.
No I'm not saying that I'm saying that as someone who has attend many munches in my time. those in the kink world are on the whole less controversial more giving aoristically human beings that a lot not all but a lot of swingers I've had the pleasure of chatting to ."
so better in some ways in your opinion? I'm not sure what aoristically means I'm guessing autocorrect put that one in.
I often hear swingers talking in terms of them being more open minded and sexually adventurous than people who don't swing. I haven't found that to be the case either.
I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless. |
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over a year ago
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with .
In the world of kink I think its vital that people think and reflect. More sexually rounded? I would question that. Are you saying that someone who has a one off sexual encounter with a person whose name they don't know is less sexually rounded, less likely to reflect on their actions and be unaware of their motives for doing so?
I see examples in BDSM where one person dresses abuse up as kink and quite clearly knows that's what it is as does the victim, I don't think that's sexually rounded. I see people who have reflected deeply on their life, their own limits and requirements who choose what you would term meaningless sex.
I simply don't think there's a sexual hierarchy with those who obviously think at the top and those who on the face of it just react to opportunity at the bottom.
No I'm not saying that I'm saying that as someone who has attend many munches in my time. those in the kink world are on the whole less controversial more giving aoristically human beings that a lot not all but a lot of swingers I've had the pleasure of chatting to .
so better in some ways in your opinion? I'm not sure what aoristically means I'm guessing autocorrect put that one in.
I often hear swingers talking in terms of them being more open minded and sexually adventurous than people who don't swing. I haven't found that to be the case either.
I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless."
not meaningless because of not having a emotional value or context to it in the way of love .
meaningless by the fact you place no value on the other person past getting what you want from them , this can lead you to view other people as commodities for your entertainment someone who is doing that lacks the most basics of what would be called humanity . |
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By *aznpaulCouple
over a year ago
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with .
In the world of kink I think its vital that people think and reflect. More sexually rounded? I would question that. Are you saying that someone who has a one off sexual encounter with a person whose name they don't know is less sexually rounded, less likely to reflect on their actions and be unaware of their motives for doing so?
I see examples in BDSM where one person dresses abuse up as kink and quite clearly knows that's what it is as does the victim, I don't think that's sexually rounded. I see people who have reflected deeply on their life, their own limits and requirements who choose what you would term meaningless sex.
I simply don't think there's a sexual hierarchy with those who obviously think at the top and those who on the face of it just react to opportunity at the bottom.
No I'm not saying that I'm saying that as someone who has attend many munches in my time. those in the kink world are on the whole less controversial more giving aoristically human beings that a lot not all but a lot of swingers I've had the pleasure of chatting to .
so better in some ways in your opinion? I'm not sure what aoristically means I'm guessing autocorrect put that one in.
I often hear swingers talking in terms of them being more open minded and sexually adventurous than people who don't swing. I haven't found that to be the case either.
I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless.
not meaningless because of not having a emotional value or context to it in the way of love .
meaningless by the fact you place no value on the other person past getting what you want from them , this can lead you to view other people as commodities for your entertainment someone who is doing that lacks the most basics of what would be called humanity . "
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over a year ago
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"Coming to this thread late but I much enjoyed reading the discussion. I used to be all about the introspection, the sharing of vulnerability, the life-altering discoveries, but now moving towards the "casual" end of things. I am pleased with myself because I've worked hard to learn to stay in the moment and enjoy what *is*, rather than search deeper for meaning. Sometimes there is none, and besides pure hedonism, mindless escapism even, can be good for the soul also. In reverse to your premise, stripping sex down to basics has helped me move forth. It is also worth pointing out again that even "meaningless" or superficial acts can be done with awareness, it is unusual but not that rare
The lost part of this post is so truth I evaluate everything and I know exactly why I do what I do when it comes to meets and sex.
Easiest example I a social meet I go because i find the other person interesting in a normal way first sex doesn't enter my head at this point in proceedings because its not a transaction its not a forgone conclusion so isn't thought upon as such by me .
I'm going to say something controversial now I come from the world of kink into the swinging scene and I can hand on heart say those I'm the world of kink are more reflective that most swingers I have so far meet and because of that are on the whole less prickly people to deal with .they seen to be more sexually rounded human.beings in general because they are reflective of themselves there own motivations and of the out comes but good and bad that come about from them motivations both to themselves and those they interact with .
In the world of kink I think its vital that people think and reflect. More sexually rounded? I would question that. Are you saying that someone who has a one off sexual encounter with a person whose name they don't know is less sexually rounded, less likely to reflect on their actions and be unaware of their motives for doing so?
I see examples in BDSM where one person dresses abuse up as kink and quite clearly knows that's what it is as does the victim, I don't think that's sexually rounded. I see people who have reflected deeply on their life, their own limits and requirements who choose what you would term meaningless sex.
I simply don't think there's a sexual hierarchy with those who obviously think at the top and those who on the face of it just react to opportunity at the bottom.
No I'm not saying that I'm saying that as someone who has attend many munches in my time. those in the kink world are on the whole less controversial more giving aoristically human beings that a lot not all but a lot of swingers I've had the pleasure of chatting to .
so better in some ways in your opinion? I'm not sure what aoristically means I'm guessing autocorrect put that one in.
I often hear swingers talking in terms of them being more open minded and sexually adventurous than people who don't swing. I haven't found that to be the case either.
I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless.
not meaningless because of not having a emotional value or context to it in the way of love .
meaningless by the fact you place no value on the other person past getting what you want from them , this can lead you to view other people as commodities for your entertainment someone who is doing that lacks the most basics of what would be called humanity . yeah but i make up for it hahahaha"
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I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless.
not meaningless because of not having a emotional value or context to it in the way of love .
meaningless by the fact you place no value on the other person past getting what you want from them , this can lead you to view other people as commodities for your entertainment someone who is doing that lacks the most basics of what would be called humanity . "
Like a commercial transaction?
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over a year ago
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I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless.
not meaningless because of not having a emotional value or context to it in the way of love .
meaningless by the fact you place no value on the other person past getting what you want from them , this can lead you to view other people as commodities for your entertainment someone who is doing that lacks the most basics of what would be called humanity .
Like a commercial transaction?
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I think it's interesting that of all our appetites and basic needs society views sex as something that needs emotions or higher value placed on it or its rendered meaningless.
not meaningless because of not having a emotional value or context to it in the way of love .
meaningless by the fact you place no value on the other person past getting what you want from them , this can lead you to view other people as commodities for your entertainment someone who is doing that lacks the most basics of what would be called humanity .
Like a commercial transaction?
best not go down that rabbit hole its against site rules if I'm remembering correctly ."
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