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"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " people can put what they want and run their profile how they see fit op, if this annoys you it's easily solved by ignoring said profile  | |||
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"clearly just me. But I think my point is missed slightly. if your looking for a long term partner isn't there more fitting sites for that purpose?" no, ltr's can happen from anywhere and if they want an open minded partner, this is a better place than most. you want to fuck and go that's your deal, if they want an open marriage and kids that's ok too..room for everyone here | |||
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"clearly just me. But I think my point is missed slightly. if your looking for a long term partner isn't there more fitting sites for that purpose?" Maybe there are. But why would it annoy you anyway? If people are here seeking long term relationships, how does that affect your Fab experience? | |||
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"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " why not have fun as you look. if your looking for a long term partner who is open minded and already into the swinging scene then why not | |||
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"clearly just me. But I think my point is missed slightly. if your looking for a long term partner isn't there more fitting sites for that purpose?" What a load of old crock. Nope I met a man I fell in love with and we were together for 3 years through fab and recently connected with someone else. Fab has been many things to me. I fail to see why that is of any concern to you however. Unless someone put you in charge and I missed the memo. V x | |||
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"clearly just me. But I think my point is missed slightly. if your looking for a long term partner isn't there more fitting sites for that purpose? What a load of old crock. Nope I met a man I fell in love with and we were together for 3 years through fab and recently connected with someone else. Fab has been many things to me. I fail to see why that is of any concern to you however. Unless someone put you in charge and I missed the memo. V x " Thank God. What do people think happens in other sites? Madrigal dancing!! My experiences on the one that rhymes with patch did get a bit legendary. A guy who revealed his real name and that he was bi and taste for a class drugs within three hours of texting. Easy to find him on LinkedIn and work out his security status....lots of ffm desire, two guys offered me the same girl, OK, normal on Fab. Bloody big coincidence on match...the dad who was dating me on m**** and chatting me up Plenty of dirty fish...I rejoined not patch when I joined here...they all wanted to bed on first date,after one of those Nick showed me his wardrobe for when he was Wendy. I threw the towel in then and concluded there was no difference | |||
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"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " All because your looking for only one person to meet for sex that does not mean your after a relationship with them | |||
"clearly just me. But I think my point is missed slightly. if your looking for a long term partner isn't there more fitting sites for that purpose? What a load of old crock. Nope I met a man I fell in love with and we were together for 3 years through fab and recently connected with someone else. Fab has been many things to me. I fail to see why that is of any concern to you however. Unless someone put you in charge and I missed the memo. V x Thank God. What do people think happens in other sites? Madrigal dancing!! My experiences on the one that rhymes with patch did get a bit legendary. A guy who revealed his real name and that he was bi and taste for a class drugs within three hours of texting. Easy to find him on LinkedIn and work out his security status....lots of ffm desire, two guys offered me the same girl, OK, normal on Fab. Bloody big coincidence on match...the dad who was dating me on m**** and chatting me up Plenty of dirty fish...I rejoined not patch when I joined here...they all wanted to bed on first date,after one of those Nick showed me his wardrobe for when he was Wendy. I threw the towel in then and concluded there was no difference" Im hearing this lady | |||
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"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " People wanting a relationship with someone who shares their lifestyle choices? Terrible! Everyone knows that for a relationship to work you must only have sex once every six months, missionary position with the lights off  | |||
"What if you're looking for a long term partner who likes swinging ?" That would be my thought. If I became single then I would look on here for a partner too. | |||
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What other people do on their profiles has nothing to do with you OP!
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"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance" i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. | |||
"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.." Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight males | |||
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"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight males" clearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. | |||
"& yes there is loads of prejudice on here against single straight males compared to women & couples, I can't speak for other groups " if you look for it..you will find it.. | |||
"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. " If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarily | |||
"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarily" noted.. ill leave you alone as you insist on twisting it into victim consciousness..im not known for making people miserable here. continue as you are..be well and happy in your perceptions | |||
"What if you're looking for a long term partner who likes swinging ?" | |||
"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarilynoted.. ill leave you alone as you insist on twisting it into victim consciousness..im not known for making people miserable here. continue as you are..be well and happy in your perceptions" no insistence just saying it as it is, I would.prefer friendly criticism & advice on how to improve chances if you have any than this | |||
"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarilynoted.. ill leave you alone as you insist on twisting it into victim consciousness..im not known for making people miserable here. continue as you are..be well and happy in your perceptions no insistence just saying it as it is, I would.prefer friendly criticism & advice on how to improve chances if you have any than this " im always friendly..my advice..change your attitude and make more effort with your profile/ pics and don't slag off those, who go to clubs... | |||
"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " Tbh, I find most things annoying and I hadn't even thought about it. It's definitely something to add to the list though. Thanks | |||
"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. Tbh, I find most things annoying and I hadn't even thought about it. It's definitely something to add to the list though. Thanks " Yep my list of reasons to be grumpy is getting bigger and bigger  | |||
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"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarilynoted.. ill leave you alone as you insist on twisting it into victim consciousness..im not known for making people miserable here. continue as you are..be well and happy in your perceptions no insistence just saying it as it is, I would.prefer friendly criticism & advice on how to improve chances if you have any than this im always friendly..my advice..change your attitude and make more effort with your profile/ pics and don't slag off those, who go to clubs..." I only give attitude to those who give it to me my verifications will show I'm a gent n a delight hehee, I didn't slat off anyone that goes to.clubs as I said more.than once that was what I was told yesterday by a male who swears he is being honest, of course I'm Gonna wanna ask if thats true being reasonably new if no idea! As for.my profile it was re written yesterday wiv help from the forum I know.I.could do.wiv more.pics but honestly easier said than done, not many of my friends would help n it's better if someone else takes the pics better results n it does make a difference too as for my written profile please do offer constructive criticism, make more effort isn't specifically constructive, I tried that yesterday but apparently it still needs more effort which if true is fair enough but I would like.some help from supportive members rather than just being told its not good enough | |||
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"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarilynoted.. ill leave you alone as you insist on twisting it into victim consciousness..im not known for making people miserable here. continue as you are..be well and happy in your perceptions no insistence just saying it as it is, I would.prefer friendly criticism & advice on how to improve chances if you have any than this im always friendly..my advice..change your attitude and make more effort with your profile/ pics and don't slag off those, who go to clubs... I only give attitude to those who give it to me my verifications will show I'm a gent n a delight hehee, I didn't slat off anyone that goes to.clubs as I said more.than once that was what I was told yesterday by a male who swears he is being honest, of course I'm Gonna wanna ask if thats true being reasonably new if no idea! As for.my profile it was re written yesterday wiv help from the forum I know.I.could do.wiv more.pics but honestly easier said than done, not many of my friends would help n it's better if someone else takes the pics better results n it does make a difference too as for my written profile please do offer constructive criticism, make more effort isn't specifically constructive, I tried that yesterday but apparently it still needs more effort which if true is fair enough but I would like.some help from supportive members rather than just being told its not good enough" do you want us all to do it for you?..as i said earlier, you want it 'on a plate' that ive actually bothered to comment three times, but for no appreciation, ..i think ill just leave you with the 'supportive' wolves..bye.. | |||
"clearly just me. But I think my point is missed slightly. if your looking for a long term partner isn't there more fitting sites for that purpose?" But most dating sites do not allow explicit photos and descriptions of what someone is really looking for. I got kicked off of POF for that  | |||
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"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance i have to say you have a skewed perception of the scene. while i have met some very lovely people through the forums on here, both of my FWB's i met at a club. as a single female i started out going to clubs by myself. its safe, it's easier to talk to people and find the spark face to face, without endless messaging and even if i don't play, i have a lovely social time...lowering standards by going to a club? i don't think so. i just think you want it all on a plate and that isnt going to happen here. i am proactive, whether it is socially or otherwise..what effort you put in here is what you get out. you have 1 pic, you obviously think those that go to clubs will fuck anything. this is a scene not just a pick up joint, quit complaining and change yourself and your attitude, cos we will all still be doing what we are doing, even if you don't...there is no unfair prejudice, there is the numbers game yes, but its easy to pick out the guys who make the effort and those that don't, women aren't stupid.. Clearly you didn't read my comment properly this is what I was told by a seasoned male on the forum yesterday however the more profiles I read the more I see it's hardest for single straight malesclearly i read your 'i must lower my standards, if i go to a club' comment...i don't give a fig about what that 'seasoned male'said..i think its bullshit. If you clearly read it properly why have a pop at me when it's another's quote! Think it either struck some chord with you or you just enjoy trolling not.nice & a fine example of what in trying to say, it's not.even my comment yet u felt the need to punish someone for.it,people like you are making my experience very unpleasant unnecessarilynoted.. ill leave you alone as you insist on twisting it into victim consciousness..im not known for making people miserable here. continue as you are..be well and happy in your perceptions no insistence just saying it as it is, I would.prefer friendly criticism & advice on how to improve chances if you have any than this im always friendly..my advice..change your attitude and make more effort with your profile/ pics and don't slag off those, who go to clubs... I only give attitude to those who give it to me my verifications will show I'm a gent n a delight hehee, I didn't slat off anyone that goes to.clubs as I said more.than once that was what I was told yesterday by a male who swears he is being honest, of course I'm Gonna wanna ask if thats true being reasonably new if no idea! As for.my profile it was re written yesterday wiv help from the forum I know.I.could do.wiv more.pics but honestly easier said than done, not many of my friends would help n it's better if someone else takes the pics better results n it does make a difference too as for my written profile please do offer constructive criticism, make more effort isn't specifically constructive, I tried that yesterday but apparently it still needs more effort which if true is fair enough but I would like.some help from supportive members rather than just being told its not good enough do you want us all to do it for you?..as i said earlier, you want it 'on a plate' that ive actually bothered to comment three times, but for no appreciation, ..i think ill just leave you with the 'supportive' wolves..bye.." being relaactively New I'd ave though a supportive group would offer actual advice not just put in more effort lol but never mind it obviously not into helpful support n advice which is cool! U could ave just been about that from start though, I will now.strive to put in more.effort wiv support n advice from others willing to help more Than telling me.to do better | |||
"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " lol yeah agreed | |||
"As a single male its very difficult even being entertained with a simple conversation let alone an actual relationship, another single male on here pointed out that unless I'm fantastically good looking n well hung I may as well give up on the site n concentrate on clubs n lower my standard's to be in with a chance, cos in his words it's over subscribed with men & the women/couples are wanting perfection & unrealistic model type men or it's no deal, the near impossible task of getting a reply or convo would Seem to concur with this, swinging seems easy for couples & women, this unfair prejudice makes it a frustrating experience to try getting into the community & can leave you feeling inadequate, I was led to believe this was a supportive accepting community but so far iv found it a struggle to even get chats let alone meets & acceptance" It may be as simple as they have a type and you're not it. I have a type which means I don't feel inundated with choice, yet others would perceive I am. | |||
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"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember." Nicely articulated, however, the fact is apparent: One may meet their future partner on here because it does happen even if it is not statistically high. | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember." Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember." Well, I am sure there are a few delusional women on here, there's certainly more than a few delusional men.........but the rest of us are only too well aware of the problems you highlight. You seem to miss the point - many if not most women WANT a relationship, so they will look out for one wherever they find themselves, even if that's on a sex site indulging in casual sex 'meanwhile'!! That does not mean they EXPECT it, but they will keep an eye open for it, and declare that fact (as my profile does quite clearly - no entrapment here!). And some men actually DO want a relationship, even a monogamous relationship, more than casual sex. They are a small percentage I grant you, so small that we are forced to look for them under every rock, on every site - - but loads of them on here are also on the dating sites looking for something more. And whilst a very small percentage of couples on here, met on here - SOME did, and I for one only need to find one!!!  | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember." maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x | |||
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"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " I've seen a lot of men say the same. People can use the site how they like either block so you don't have to look again and just move to the next profile. Simples.  | |||
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"If this was a dating site I wouldn't be here. But, if I found one man who fulfilled me sexually, I'd be happy just fucking him. "
I wasn't looking and never thought I'd just be meeting 1 person, but had a lovely 6 month thing with someone I met on here last year
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"Is it just me who finds the comment or similiar comment " not looking for several men. Just one long term partner" annoying. Ok fare enough not so many to loose count. It's the seeking long term. Is this just me? If your looking for the next Mr (or Mrs) right go to a dating site. " How different it is for swingers going to dating sites trying to hook the next fuck by pretending to be looking for a relationship? | |||
"It's up to whoever as to what their here for but joining a swingers site for everything but swinging does make you wonder "Well said. If people are here for casual sex and have a hope of it turning into more, good luck to them. But yes, judging by the forums there do seem to be a lot more people lately (men and women) who don't really understand what swinging is, and they seem to lack emotional maturity. That's not me being judgemental, I'm actually a sensitive guy and just don't like seeing people get themselves hurt. But I guess it's not up to me. | |||
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"dating sites are just fuck sites anyway. some men just use any site to try and get laid. i've been asked if i'm single on selling sites, really, all i want is to sell my stuff. "Yes I know a woman who gets propisitioned a lot on LinkedIn. | |||
"dating sites are just fuck sites anyway. some men just use any site to try and get laid. i've been asked if i'm single on selling sites, really, all i want is to sell my stuff.
Yes I know a woman who gets propisitioned a lot on LinkedIn. " and that's mean to be a professional site. | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Nicely articulated, however, the fact is apparent: One may meet their future partner on here because it does happen even if it is not statistically high." Of course, but then you're essentially betting on the lottery. Perfectly fine for someone to do but probably unhealthy in the long run if they're genuinely interested in their own success. | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better "Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from. | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x" They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. | |||
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" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from."I don't need acres of men to happily go along with it.... just the one
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"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness." well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from."you mean single, already attached men? | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from.
you mean single, already attached men?"Ha ha fab single | |||
Am I wrong in thinking this is the place to find those guys? | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Nicely articulated, however, the fact is apparent: One may meet their future partner on here because it does happen even if it is not statistically high. Of course, but then you're essentially betting on the lottery. Perfectly fine for someone to do but probably unhealthy in the long run if they're genuinely interested in their own success." Depends on their measure of success. Personally I'd quite happily swing with an fwb (as I have done), until a more personal relationship occurs. | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from."Fortunately not all infections are contagious | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness." Ouch that's a judgemental tone. What if they have been unselfish and think it's about time for their needs to be met? | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from.
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"I want kink in my life and I think there are kinky guys to be found on here Yes I want something more regular but I want that regular to be with someone who enjoys sex as much as me - and with someone adventurous
Am I wrong in thinking this is the place to find those guys?"Give it a try. I do | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x" First thing, I dont trust anyone who calls themselves selfless...same way I dont trust people who say nonsense like "I am the nicest guy you will ever meet if you just give me a chance". LOL sure.
Secondly you touch on an interesting point. "Women's empowerment". The idea that women's (or anyone's) empowerment can be achieved through sex is so farcical its comedic. There is no "empowerment" in fucking. Same way my self worth is not determined by the people that I meet who find me attractive.
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" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from.
you mean single, already attached men?"You mean cheaters? Yeah, plenty of those too. Interestingly enough though, plenty of the profiles I read here are pretty vocal of their disapproval (and rightly so). TBH this extends into a wider issue I have with postmodern sexual expression. The ideas I see on places like here/reddit/fetlife have become...one sided. It's the show is on the other foot, the 60's borne "sexual freedom" mantra which revealed itself as nothing more than a culture perpetual arrested development, has now become popular among women. Everything you do here is okay because women are the objects we desire and we have to cater to their sensibilities. I dunno, seems patronising. | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x First thing, I dont trust anyone who calls themselves selfless...same way I dont trust people who say nonsense like "I am the nicest guy you will ever meet if you just give me a chance". LOL sure.
Secondly you touch on an interesting point. "Women's empowerment". The idea that women's (or anyone's) empowerment can be achieved through sex is so farcical its comedic. There is no "empowerment" in fucking. Same way my self worth is not determined by the people that I meet who find me attractive.
I find it intruiging you consider being told that there are consequences for actions as "emotional blackmail". All seems a little juvenile. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. "tells me more about you than about me..thanks x | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x First thing, I dont trust anyone who calls themselves selfless...same way I dont trust people who say nonsense like "I am the nicest guy you will ever meet if you just give me a chance". LOL sure.
Secondly you touch on an interesting point. "Women's empowerment". The idea that women's (or anyone's) empowerment can be achieved through sex is so farcical its comedic. There is no "empowerment" in fucking. Same way my self worth is not determined by the people that I meet who find me attractive.
I find it intruiging you consider being told that there are consequences for actions as "emotional blackmail". All seems a little juvenile. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. tells me more about you than about me..thanks x"lol no need to get upset | |||
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" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from.
you mean single, already attached men?
You mean cheaters?
Yeah, plenty of those too. Interestingly enough though, plenty of the profiles I read here are pretty vocal of their disapproval (and rightly so). TBH this extends into a wider issue I have with postmodern sexual expression. The ideas I see on places like here/reddit/fetlife have become...one sided. It's the show is on the other foot, the 60's borne "sexual freedom" mantra which revealed itself as nothing more than a culture perpetual arrested development, has now become popular among women.
Everything you do here is okay because women are the objects we desire and we have to cater to their sensibilities. I dunno, seems patronising. "Both cheats and openly married guys. Neither are available for a relationship really, not one where i'd get prioritised anyway. I kind of like how it's a womans world here. Yeah we can get a bit over indulgent of ourselves i suppose but it makes a change from putting outselves last. Wish i'd done this a lot sooner, put myself first. | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x First thing, I dont trust anyone who calls themselves selfless...same way I dont trust people who say nonsense like "I am the nicest guy you will ever meet if you just give me a chance". LOL sure.
Secondly you touch on an interesting point. "Women's empowerment". The idea that women's (or anyone's) empowerment can be achieved through sex is so farcical its comedic. There is no "empowerment" in fucking. Same way my self worth is not determined by the people that I meet who find me attractive.
I find it intruiging you consider being told that there are consequences for actions as "emotional blackmail". All seems a little juvenile. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. tells me more about you than about me..thanks x
lol no need to get upset"im not upset at all, another assumption . i just feel you have no clue what you are talking about, therefore, i shall gracefully withdraw and let you get on with it..xx | |||
" You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And thats a key thing to remember. Don't lump me in with your sweeping generalisation about women. I do not expect a relationship from anywhere, but my perfect relationship is totally inclusive of lots of casual sex. Emotionally I desire to be monogamous (I can only be in love with one person) but as far as sex is concerned..... no fucking way. The more casual the better
Yeeeah, because there are just acres of men who will happily go along with you fucking lots of other people. And yes, I know this is a swinging site. Remember the vast majority of the users on here are single men. SINGLE men. This is what I meant about delusion. Its an infection that alot of people here are suffering from.
you mean single, already attached men?
You mean cheaters?
Yeah, plenty of those too. Interestingly enough though, plenty of the profiles I read here are pretty vocal of their disapproval (and rightly so). TBH this extends into a wider issue I have with postmodern sexual expression. The ideas I see on places like here/reddit/fetlife have become...one sided. It's the show is on the other foot, the 60's borne "sexual freedom" mantra which revealed itself as nothing more than a culture perpetual arrested development, has now become popular among women.
Everything you do here is okay because women are the objects we desire and we have to cater to their sensibilities. I dunno, seems patronising.
Both cheats and openly married guys. Neither are available for a relationship really, not one where i'd get prioritised anyway.
I kind of like how it's a womans world here. Yeah we can get a bit over indulgent of ourselves i suppose but it makes a change from putting outselves last. Wish i'd done this a lot sooner, put myself first."Be weary, extremely weary of someone who caters to your ego. I've always seen it as a bit of a bear trap. But yeah, I wouldn't deny that its rather silly that us guys often come here looking for cheap thrills and then would be horrified at the concept of anyone "sharing" our own partners. This is why swinging works better for older couples, so much of sex is deeply emotional and irrational. Diving into the deep end with partner sharing/groupsex and then expecting an emotional bond just seems like a bit too much. | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x First thing, I dont trust anyone who calls themselves selfless...same way I dont trust people who say nonsense like "I am the nicest guy you will ever meet if you just give me a chance". LOL sure.
Secondly you touch on an interesting point. "Women's empowerment". The idea that women's (or anyone's) empowerment can be achieved through sex is so farcical its comedic. There is no "empowerment" in fucking. Same way my self worth is not determined by the people that I meet who find me attractive.
I find it intruiging you consider being told that there are consequences for actions as "emotional blackmail". All seems a little juvenile. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. tells me more about you than about me..thanks x
lol no need to get upsetim not upset at all, another assumption . i just feel you have no clue what you are talking about, therefore, i shall gracefully withdraw and let you get on with it..xx"You are upset tbh. Likely because you maintain a one-sided and self serving _iew of reality and feel affronted when anyone challenges that. As a poster rightly said, this place seems to be a bear trap for people to become entangled in their own self indulgence. | |||
"I have been saying this for some time OP and I agree with you. There is a serious problem with delusion here and I think its spoiling the experience in general. And yeah I think this problem pervades all sites for meeting other people for sex/relationships. Us men tend to cheapen it and women have completely unrealistic expectations of it. Relationships on dating sites are significantly more unstable and have a far greater chance of dissolution, plenty of data supporting that too. For a casual sex site I imagine that figure to be stupidly high and yet the daft idea that one should expect men to be open to commitment persists. I notice even on places like POF, the women expect to meet their partners on there. The men are almost always completely the opposite, ESPECIALLY if they're successful on it. You can swing however u want but one of the things which perplexes me about the modern idea of casual sex is that women havent quite got the memo that relationships are kinda diametrically opposed to lots of casual sex...and expecting relationship from lots of casual sex is rather counter intuitive. I am willing to bet cash the vast majority of swinging couples DID NOT meet on here. And that's a key thing to remember.maybe you didn't get the meme that women will do what they want,these days, whatever men say or do. i don't agree with your sweeping statements either x They will do what they want. And there are consequences for doing so. Same way there are consequences for my abrasive tone on the messageboard. I have met too many bitter 35+ year olds who lived their lives entirely through self interest who now feel angry at the world that no one was interested in partaking in their selfishness. well theres emotional blackmail towards women if ever i heard it. we cant do what we want otherwise we are selfish? im actually quite selfless, the only consequences i have are a very, very few people saying i am selfish, and angry/ bitter, which anyone that knows me, will shoot down in flames. this tack is usually only said by those who dont get their own way by emotional bullying. welcome to the real world, where women's empowerment doesn't have to be about burning bras or putting down men,(although truths can be pointed out, when needed) it comes from high self esteem and intrinsically cultivated self worth, which will not be manipulated, by trying to bully our sexuality, preferences, needs or desires. go hang with some cool people, who are pretty chilled..like attracts like, you know, if you don't find you fit into thier scene and attitudes, maybe you are looking, in the wrong place x First thing, I dont trust anyone who calls themselves selfless...same way I dont trust people who say nonsense like "I am the nicest guy you will ever meet if you just give me a chance". LOL sure.
Secondly you touch on an interesting point. "Women's empowerment". The idea that women's (or anyone's) empowerment can be achieved through sex is so farcical its comedic. There is no "empowerment" in fucking. Same way my self worth is not determined by the people that I meet who find me attractive.
I find it intruiging you consider being told that there are consequences for actions as "emotional blackmail". All seems a little juvenile. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. tells me more about you than about me..thanks x
lol no need to get upsetim not upset at all, another assumption . i just feel you have no clue what you are talking about, therefore, i shall gracefully withdraw and let you get on with it..xx
You are upset tbh. Likely because you maintain a one-sided and self serving _iew of reality and feel affronted when anyone challenges that. As a poster rightly said, this place seems to be a bear trap for people to become entangled in their own self indulgence. "if you say so | |||
"Be weary, extremely weary of someone who caters to your ego. I've always seen it as a bit of a bear trap. But yeah, I wouldn't deny that its rather silly that us guys often come here looking for cheap thrills and then would be horrified at the concept of anyone "sharing" our own partners. This is why swinging works better for older couples, so much of sex is deeply emotional and irrational. Diving into the deep end with partner sharing/groupsex and then expecting an emotional bond just seems like a bit too much. " I am, charm and flattery has always been a huge put off for me and often comes across as creepy or boring as well. I agree i couldn't swng if i wanted a relationship. I think you need to lay down foundations wih someone and ensure trust before sharing somebody, but others seem to have managed this so it looks like it's possible somehow. | |||
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"I think my OP struck a nerve with some. Not the intention to cause such a heated debate. Discussion yes but not anger. One thing which does strike me is that all the responses are from in the most part, Single Females or couples., which in theory does not represent the proportion of single males on the site? I will continue to ponder my thoughts about my OP. But it has made for interesting reading. " IMO that's because all blokes are after as much Nsa sex as they can get from which ever site ..so not big candidates for dating site chats. | |||
"I tried 3 dating sites for a long term partner...all I found were men who wanted sex! So I joined fab as a joke and stated I wanted long term partner. And blow me the first man I met there was an instant atraction for both of us and we've been together ever since. So I don't regret using a sex site to find a long term partner at all. Each to their own as the saying goes....." Exactly! Glad you lucked in straight off. Just split with one of my first meets after a year and a bit. Just not found anyone I like better than myself so taking a back seat ATM... | |||
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"We find as a couple it is almost like you have to 'date ' another couple before play... We don't really want to do that really we just looking for other people to fuck and go ... I think we are in the minority of swingers tho We have made amazing friends but simply don't want to fuck our friends And love the social side of swinging Each to their own and all that but for us playtime is ultimately about the sex and enhancing what we have as a couple already and hopefully helping another couple do the same... "We're not always about the fuck and go, but we do get what you mean. Often the more we get to know people the less we want to have sex with them, even if we become friendly. The rise in the club scene has probably been for the better, but it has shifted the emphasis on socialising a lot more. When we first got into swinging the thing we loved about the scene was the openness and liberation of it, it was completely different to dating as singles. But now the line between dating and swinging seems to be blurring more and more and we're struggling to adapt to that. | |||
"We find as a couple it is almost like you have to 'date ' another couple before play... We don't really want to do that really we just looking for other people to fuck and go ... I think we are in the minority of swingers tho We have made amazing friends but simply don't want to fuck our friends And love the social side of swinging Each to their own and all that but for us playtime is ultimately about the sex and enhancing what we have as a couple already and hopefully helping another couple do the same...
We're not always about the fuck and go, but we do get what you mean.
Often the more we get to know people the less we want to have sex with them, even if we become friendly.
The rise in the club scene has probably been for the better, but it has shifted the emphasis on socialising a lot more.
When we first got into swinging the thing we loved about the scene was the openness and liberation of it, it was completely different to dating as singles. But now the line between dating and swinging seems to be blurring more and more and we're struggling to adapt to that. "You guys actually Put that better than us ... nice to have a few drinks and giggles but ultimately we want the naughtiness ... rather have naughtiness for a few hours than drinking and chatting and then a hour of naughtiness Swinging is less about the sex now not that that's wrong as I said we love the social side but seems harder to get fucked these days lol even in clubs | |||
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"For us too our pref is couples not singles and it's so hard to get he dynamics right .... after all I'm the bixsexual one and have to fuck them both .... lol Also it seems lots of couples only play with couples as a compromise to not being able to find a single girl but that's another forum topic " Yes, pretty much agree with everything you're saying. Could go on more but don't to derail this thread. Lol | |||
