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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

It's the way of fab and there's not a great deal you can do to change that, especially if you're happy with your profile and pics.

You either accept it and persevere, or let it get to you and eventually quit the site.

Only other thing to suggest is get along to socials/clubs where there's a better chance of getting to know people face to face. Or be more active on the forums where people can get a better feel for your personality etc.

Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why not just go to the club and try and pull? Ugly people are at a disadvantage there...and ln the rest of life.

Fab isn't reality.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I remember your thread asking for advice, but tbh looking at your profile I cant say whether you took it or not as it looks exactly the same, especially the pics...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember your thread asking for advice, but tbh looking at your profile I cant say whether you took it or not as it looks exactly the same, especially the pics... "

His profile seems fine.

lf we took every bit of advice on here, we'd never be done editing it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's the way of fab and there's not a great deal you can do to change that, especially if you're happy with your profile and pics.

You either accept it and persevere, or let it get to you and eventually quit the site.

Only other thing to suggest is get along to socials/clubs where there's a better chance of getting to know people face to face. Or be more active on the forums where people can get a better feel for your personality etc.

Good luck "

Thanks for the advice. .I've tried most things you said but a club meet is something I couldn't do .. i would meet for a social with a f or mf but not a group social too shy for something like that lol

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By *ady LickWoman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

Profile looks fine to me. The only thing I can say is the fact you can't accommodate will put loads of women off for a start.

Clubs are your best bet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Patience. Chat in the forums. Keep your profile updated and status ( no drama or attension seeking) and most importantly be yourself. Desperation and pestering are a real turn off.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I remember your thread asking for advice, but tbh looking at your profile I cant say whether you took it or not as it looks exactly the same, especially the pics... "

I have a variety of pics the only thing I don't have is a full face pic which a lot of profiles don't have and i just don't feel comfortable with that...any tips on what sort of pics to put on my profile x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !"

Its only the same as me sending them a message and them deleting it straight away and not replying they obviously think there better than me which is fair enough x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I remember your thread asking for advice, but tbh looking at your profile I cant say whether you took it or not as it looks exactly the same, especially the pics...

His profile seems fine.

lf we took every bit of advice on here, we'd never be done editing it."

Cheers pal thanks for the positive reply

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Profile looks fine to me. The only thing I can say is the fact you can't accommodate will put loads of women off for a start.

Clubs are your best bet "

I suppose that doesn't help but i do explain why i can't unfortunately x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's the way of fab and there's not a great deal you can do to change that, especially if you're happy with your profile and pics.

You either accept it and persevere, or let it get to you and eventually quit the site.

Only other thing to suggest is get along to socials/clubs where there's a better chance of getting to know people face to face. Or be more active on the forums where people can get a better feel for your personality etc.

Good luck

Thanks for the advice. .I've tried most things you said but a club meet is something I couldn't do .. i would meet for a social with a f or mf but not a group social too shy for something like that lol"

I am very shy to and i suffer from anxiety but iv managed group socials and clubs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

Its only the same as me sending them a message and them deleting it straight away and not replying they obviously think there better than me which is fair enough x"

They simply might not be interested. Lots of guys messege us that we arnt interested in but we dont think we are better than them !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Patience. Chat in the forums. Keep your profile updated and status ( no drama or attension seeking) and most importantly be yourself. Desperation and pestering are a real turn off.

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There's only so much patience one can have lol...i come on forums and message but.lot of the time your messages get overlooked

..being myself is a given and id sooner have a wank than be desperate lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

Its only the same as me sending them a message and them deleting it straight away and not replying they obviously think there better than me which is fair enough x

They simply might not be interested. Lots of guys messege us that we arnt interested in but we dont think we are better than them !"

Thats fair enough x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Good luck x

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By *VK_RugbyCouple  over a year ago

Rugby

Supply and demand... the supply of single males outweighs the demand for them .. I think it's that simple in reality

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you."

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Supply and demand... the supply of single males outweighs the demand for them .. I think it's that simple in reality "

Basically yeah

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x"

It's a pleasure. Maybe see women as individuals and not mingers that are just here to service any men that message. Some of the ladies on here are stunning and remember they are here for THEIR pleasure not to provide a service.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please "

So you message people that hold little attraction for you? You expect people to lower their expectations?

Are you sure that you are entering this with the right attitude?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please "

REWARDS? Dnt expect any. It is what it is. There is a huge amount of availability but I think you are wrong to say thst no may not be attracted to them. A bit cruel on your part and this wnt help your cause because I wouldn't want to respond to you. Sorry although you aren't my preference so I wouldn't have

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By *ishopstippleMan  over a year ago

Purley

If I were you I would give up too.

If you really think those pic's are sexy and will actually do anything for anyone but a over desperate female (and there arnt any on here (where there is a 400:1 ratio) your kidding yourself.

I don't know what "M" at MI5 would say about an employee posting here. but with that job/lifestyle conflict, would also deter any one thinking you would actually turn up meet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

It's a pleasure. Maybe see women as individuals and not mingers that are just here to service any men that message. Some of the ladies on here are stunning and remember they are here for THEIR pleasure not to provide a service."

My sentiments exactly. I'm definitely not desperate and very very fussy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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..being myself is a given and id sooner have a wank than be desperate lol "

And yet you message women you're not attracted to and who wouldn't be given a second glance in real life...?

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By *orkie321bWoman  over a year ago

Nottingham

OP I struggle to understand why you won't go to a club.

Would you go to your local pub on your own? It's really not that different except someone, somewhere in the building may be having sex.

If single women can pluck up the courage to go then I'm sure you can.

I've never set foot in the pub on my own yet even I managed to find the guts to go to a club by myself.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

It's a pleasure. Maybe see women as individuals and not mingers that are just here to service any men that message. Some of the ladies on here are stunning and remember they are here for THEIR pleasure not to provide a service."

Why are you trying to twist it to make me look bad...where do i say mingers and ugly women? There is a lot of stunning women on here which is good for perving on...and i know there here for there pleasure thanks x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention."

So even the women you don't find attractive are bothering you on here?

Yeah i'd give up.

None of us agreed to meet anyone we don't fancy when we signed up to online anything, same for offline and in the real world. Tough shit.

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By *SPrincessWoman  over a year ago

Nowhere near you


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..being myself is a given and id sooner have a wank than be desperate lol

And yet you message women you're not attracted to and who wouldn't be given a second glance in real life...?"

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Im sorry if i offended anyone ive obviously not worded my post right but i suppose its looking like i may as well give up or just carry on messaging and see where i get...i am a nice guy and i don't expect anything at all...i always send respectful messages and obviously there is something on my pics or profile that isn't appealing but everyone loves a trier...hope you all forgive me ...i might just have to perve on the women on this site which is why i suppose it isn't worth quitting x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

So even the women you don't find attractive are bothering you on here?

Yeah i'd give up.

None of us agreed to meet anyone we don't fancy when we signed up to online anything, same for offline and in the real world. Tough shit."

Your first phrase doesn't make sense sorry x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

yes, you offended me.

i get a bit sick of people thinking that just because someone isn't stereotypically gorgeous then they shouldn't be fussy about who they fuck.

of course we're gonna be fussy with all the choice we have on here, why wouldn't we be?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"yes, you offended me.

i get a bit sick of people thinking that just because someone isn't stereotypically gorgeous then they shouldn't be fussy about who they fuck.

of course we're gonna be fussy with all the choice we have on here, why wouldn't we be?"

Thats fair enough...sorry if i upset you

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By *ogerNesszonesMan  over a year ago

Northern England

Reminds me of a spoof ad I once read:

WILL SWAP:

Partly used tin of brown boot polish for Rolls Royce Corniche Convertible - MUST be blue or maroon colour.

Apply to Fred Hopeful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's a pleasure. Maybe see women as individuals and not mingers that are just here to service any men that message. Some of the ladies on here are stunning and remember they are here for THEIR pleasure not to provide a service."

Excellent post. Men who complain that they are out of the league of the women who won't fuck them are tedious af.

'Wah, this uggo bitch doesn't even realise I'm a catch!'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

So even the women you don't find attractive are bothering you on here?

Yeah i'd give up.

None of us agreed to meet anyone we don't fancy when we signed up to online anything, same for offline and in the real world. Tough shit.

Your first phrase doesn't make sense sorry x"

spelt it out for you in the above reply.

it's fine to whinge about not getting meets (and you are whinging, again), it's not fine to act like people are not attractive and so shouldn't be fussy about who they meet.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's a pleasure. Maybe see women as individuals and not mingers that are just here to service any men that message. Some of the ladies on here are stunning and remember they are here for THEIR pleasure not to provide a service.

Excellent post. Men who complain that they are out of the league of the women who won't fuck them are tedious af.

'Wah, this uggo bitch doesn't even realise I'm a catch!'"

Where do i say im out of someone's league? X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op your profile pics good,your verification are from people on can only, if me I'd want to know you have turned up and met someone, if I get a message I always reply even if to say no thank you but that's just manners, from what I see here, perseverance is needed, I wouldn't be brave enough to go to a social either, best of luck and stick with it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"yes, you offended me.

i get a bit sick of people thinking that just because someone isn't stereotypically gorgeous then they shouldn't be fussy about who they fuck.

of course we're gonna be fussy with all the choice we have on here, why wouldn't we be?

Thats fair enough...sorry if i upset you "

apology accepted. don't think it will help you on here though.

your expectations are just not working for you and you need to stop making these topics to get attention and start changing what you do on here instead. idk what to exactly as i've never needed to change anything, or if i do it works for me anyway. that's just the perks of being female in a female led envirnoment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"yes, you offended me.

i get a bit sick of people thinking that just because someone isn't stereotypically gorgeous then they shouldn't be fussy about who they fuck.

of course we're gonna be fussy with all the choice we have on here, why wouldn't we be?

Thats fair enough...sorry if i upset you

apology accepted. don't think it will help you on here though.

your expectations are just not working for you and you need to stop making these topics to get attention and start changing what you do on here instead. idk what to exactly as i've never needed to change anything, or if i do it works for me anyway. that's just the perks of being female in a female led envirnoment. "

Dont have any expectations and im totally the opposite to someone who likes the attention...soz x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Op your profile pics good,your verification are from people on can only, if me I'd want to know you have turned up and met someone, if I get a message I always reply even if to say no thank you but that's just manners, from what I see here, perseverance is needed, I wouldn't be brave enough to go to a social either, best of luck and stick with it "

Thanks for the positivity bonnie ill take everything on board you have said x

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !"

this

Bit rude, serves you right maybe the women knew you were slumming it even they have standards.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I knew i shouldnt of wrote this post lol...shit at wording things..never again x

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman  over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x"

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

this

Bit rude, serves you right maybe the women knew you were slumming it even they have standards. "

Well if they do then its just like me being rejected by them and me knowing they think im not attractive...like ive said i think about three times i could of worded things better for which i have apologised x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap."

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To be fair women whether it be on here or a dating site are always going to get a lot more attention than a man, especially when on either the amount of men compared to women is a lot higher.

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman  over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x"

I haven't read anyone else's reply so I wouldn't know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x"

If your messages are equally well-worded, I can understand the lack of interest.

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By *he girl with dreadlocksWoman  over a year ago

need to know basis in Wolverhampton


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

this

Bit rude, serves you right maybe the women knew you were slumming it even they have standards.

Well if they do then its just like me being rejected by them and me knowing they think im not attractive...like ive said i think about three times i could of worded things better for which i have apologised x"

Well maybe you worded all the messages you sent to the females that you did fancy wrong too and that's why they didn't message back.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"To be fair women whether it be on here or a dating site are always going to get a lot more attention than a man, especially when on either the amount of men compared to women is a lot higher. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x

I haven't read anyone else's reply so I wouldn't know "

Right sorry for the presumption x

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x"

I hear you Yes an unfortunate choice of words. I think you are going to have to take the bull by the horns and visit a club. It is far easier for people to come to a desicion whether they want to have some fun with others. Gives a chance for personality to come out too. Good luck!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

because the ratio of men to women is much greater it means women can pick and choose and i do not think we need to lower the standards of what we want it just means you need to stand out from the crowd more. like what has been said, clubs may be the way forward or chatting in forums or perhaps in the chat rooms. other than that patience . wouldn't you rather know a woman wanted you and not just anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

OP, you've said sorry on here.

I wouldn't bother saying it again. People should read the whole of a thread before commenting.

Seriously, you need to go to a club or organised social.

Have a look to see if there are any socials in your area and message the hosts explaining you're shy but want to come along. A good host should keep an eye out for you and make you feel welcome.

Good luck.

Oh, and I think your profile is good too

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By *ougar_n_TILFCouple  over a year ago

Burton on Trent

Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

this

Bit rude, serves you right maybe the women knew you were slumming it even they have standards.

Well if they do then its just like me being rejected by them and me knowing they think im not attractive...like ive said i think about three times i could of worded things better for which i have apologised x

Well maybe you worded all the messages you sent to the females that you did fancy wrong too and that's why they didn't message back. "

Maybe maybe not i dont know but im not one of these that will message 'fancy a fuck'? I read there profile and will message them according to there profile...im thinking there is too much competition and there is alwaya somwonw someone better in the next message x

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By *ihimbiherCouple  over a year ago

lightwater


"Why not just go to the club and try and pull? Ugly people are at a disadvantage there...and ln the rest of life.

Fab isn't reality."

We have never had any problems

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Spot on Josh, a lot of women on here with high standards when there not even high standard themselves, but I don't think that's the prime suspect for failure on Fab, women do get a lot of messages every day, I'm talking hundreds which probably you already know, so your message probably is somewhere amongst do you fancy a fuck? You fancy meeting up now? And by the time she gets to yours after reading the normal message one liners its a case of she cant be arsed reading anymore and deletes a lot to get her inbox looking a lot less hectic if you know what I mean, which I don't blame them for doing cos in there shoes id do the same, but don't get me wrong I do agree with what a lot you've said, its same for me I find it tough cos its going be tough cos I'm a single male, my advice just keep going and keep trying, god loves trier, Good Luck

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"because the ratio of men to women is much greater it means women can pick and choose and i do not think we need to lower the standards of what we want it just means you need to stand out from the crowd more. like what has been said, clubs may be the way forward or chatting in forums or perhaps in the chat rooms. other than that patience . wouldn't you rather know a woman wanted you and not just anyone. "

Im still uneasy with going to a club and if that is going minimise my chance of a meet then i need to understand that.. i go on the chat rooms when i can but its hard to intergrate yourself in them rooms too many people typing to quick lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x

I hear you Yes an unfortunate choice of words. I think you are going to have to take the bull by the horns and visit a club. It is far easier for people to come to a desicion whether they want to have some fun with others. Gives a chance for personality to come out too. Good luck! "

I think id be too intimated to go to a clubs after some of the responses on here lol (which is fair enough ) x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"OP, you've said sorry on here.

I wouldn't bother saying it again. People should read the whole of a thread before commenting.

Seriously, you need to go to a club or organised social.

Have a look to see if there are any socials in your area and message the hosts explaining you're shy but want to come along. A good host should keep an eye out for you and make you feel welcome.

Good luck.

Oh, and I think your profile is good too "

Thanks miss innocent x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Spot on Josh, a lot of women on here with high standards when there not even high standard themselves, but I don't think that's the prime suspect for failure on Fab, women do get a lot of messages every day, I'm talking hundreds which probably you already know, so your message probably is somewhere amongst do you fancy a fuck? You fancy meeting up now? And by the time she gets to yours after reading the normal message one liners its a case of she cant be arsed reading anymore and deletes a lot to get her inbox looking a lot less hectic if you know what I mean, which I don't blame them for doing cos in there shoes id do the same, but don't get me wrong I do agree with what a lot you've said, its same for me I find it tough cos its going be tough cos I'm a single male, my advice just keep going and keep trying, god loves trier, Good Luck "

Cheers pal

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By *ivemeyoursoulWoman  over a year ago

Easter just around the corner!


"Spot on Josh, a lot of women on here with high standards when there not even high standard themselves, but I don't think that's the prime suspect for failure on Fab, women do get a lot of messages every day, I'm talking hundreds which probably you already know, so your message probably is somewhere amongst do you fancy a fuck? You fancy meeting up now? And by the time she gets to yours after reading the normal message one liners its a case of she cant be arsed reading anymore and deletes a lot to get her inbox looking a lot less hectic if you know what I mean, which I don't blame them for doing cos in there shoes id do the same, but don't get me wrong I do agree with what a lot you've said, its same for me I find it tough cos its going be tough cos I'm a single male, my advice just keep going and keep trying, god loves trier, Good Luck "

I must be really shit ugly I don't get hundreds a day!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've got pretty much zero sympathy once people start coming out with the "ugly women punching above their weight" laments. My standards are far broader than they would be if I was on a dating site. I've met people for sex I wouldn't date in a million years.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've got pretty much zero sympathy once people start coming out with the "ugly women punching above their weight" laments. My standards are far broader than they would be if I was on a dating site. I've met people for sex I wouldn't date in a million years. "

Why is that, if you don't mind me asking ?

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Bless ya!! So not even the ugly women want to meet you. I'd give up if I was you.

Nice bit of positivity there and that is why i dont start my own forum chats..thanks for your feedback x

Well to be fair it doesn't sound good does it,how would you feel if a woman messaged you thinking well I don't really find him attractive,but I'm desperate so I'll try. The thought of someone messaging me just because they haven't got a cat's in hell's chance with someone who they think is attractive is pretty crap.

Getting a message would be a fine thing but like ive said about three times i worded it wrongly and apologised x

I hear you Yes an unfortunate choice of words. I think you are going to have to take the bull by the horns and visit a club. It is far easier for people to come to a desicion whether they want to have some fun with others. Gives a chance for personality to come out too. Good luck!

I think id be too intimated to go to a clubs after some of the responses on here lol (which is fair enough ) x"

There is no need to feel intimidated, by clubs. I think we are all trying to suggest how you could improve your chances of meeting people. We all know it is difficult to arrange meets on here, in fact we only meet at parties and clubs now, because of this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've got a few female friends on fab the amount they get every day is ridiculous, I'm not saying your ugly luv or anyone that doesn't gets hundreds a day are ugly either and just going off what women I've chatted too

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By *opsy RogersWoman  over a year ago

London


"I've got pretty much zero sympathy once people start coming out with the "ugly women punching above their weight" laments. My standards are far broader than they would be if I was on a dating site. I've met people for sex I wouldn't date in a million years. "

Same here. I'm not lowering my standards to do anyone a favour though, as the OP suggests.

He's not willing to help himself but expects women to be available to him, even the ones he doesn't want.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"because the ratio of men to women is much greater it means women can pick and choose and i do not think we need to lower the standards of what we want it just means you need to stand out from the crowd more. like what has been said, clubs may be the way forward or chatting in forums or perhaps in the chat rooms. other than that patience . wouldn't you rather know a woman wanted you and not just anyone.

Im still uneasy with going to a club and if that is going minimise my chance of a meet then i need to understand that.. i go on the chat rooms when i can but its hard to intergrate yourself in them rooms too many people typing to quick lol"

go into the less busy chatrooms. i do know what you mean about the fast typers, i think they can tell you how many are in a room at a time. do you go on camera when you go in them. i knoe clubs may seem daunting too as i get panic attacks when there are too many people in a space. other than that it looks like the forums may be a help to get yourself noticed x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's the way of fab and there's not a great deal you can do to change that, especially if you're happy with your profile and pics.

You either accept it and persevere, or let it get to you and eventually quit the site.

Only other thing to suggest is get along to socials/clubs where there's a better chance of getting to know people face to face. Or be more active on the forums where people can get a better feel for your personality etc.

Good luck

Thanks for the advice. .I've tried most things you said but a club meet is something I couldn't do .. i would meet for a social with a f or mf but not a group social too shy for something like that lol"

The only sure way of meeting real people from here is to go to organised socials and clubs and GET TALKING TO PEOPLE. If you are too shy for that (and it's not at all easy for even the more confident people on here) then you are going to continue to struggle. You've got to work it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Being a fellow Blacburner myself pal, it is mega tough, there's not much going on when you search , most are offline, even when you search a bit more out your region there's still not much going on, its about luck and patience, so until that day comes, keep doing you your way pal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Jeez I'm lucky to get a few messages a week so I better get a brown bag

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"Being a fellow Blacburner myself pal, it is mega tough, there's not much going on when you search , most are offline, even when you search a bit more out your region there's still not much going on, its about luck and patience, so until that day comes, keep doing you your way pal "

Apart from the 6 clubs that are within half an hour drive??

What's wrong with going to one , having a chat in the bar and seeing where real life leads?

MrB

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Winners never quit and quitters never win!

Stop mincing and get on with it!

You big girl's blouse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've got pretty much zero sympathy once people start coming out with the "ugly women punching above their weight" laments. My standards are far broader than they would be if I was on a dating site. I've met people for sex I wouldn't date in a million years.

Why is that, if you don't mind me asking ? "

Because I'll have sex with someone in their 40s but wouldn't want a relationship with an age gap. I'll have sex with someone who has kids but wouldn't have a relationship with someone who had children. I will meet people from further afield than I would if I was going to date them. Loads of things.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Profile looks fine to me. The only thing I can say is the fact you can't accommodate will put loads of women off for a start.

Clubs are your best bet

I suppose that doesn't help but i do explain why i can't unfortunately x"

well.... this is then going to sound harsh... but i think it needs to be said...

you are then cutting off avenues before you have tried them... and if that is the case that is on you and not on anyone else...

if this site hard work... yes it bloody is, and i say to anyone that if you are expecting maximum results for minimum effort then you are in the wrong place....

the key to a lot of people success is not just relying on a profile... it is getting out there and giving people a reason to say "wow i have to meet that person"...

for a lot of people that will include going to clubs.... for a lot of people that will include going to socials.... because people can see what that person is like... and making an impression face to face is more powerful than words will do alone!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Op next thread you write read it through twice then delete will save u a lot of grief

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed. "

Wondering if the reason the OP didn't reply to this is that it hit the nail on the head about him having something to hide.

Because it is good advice. Get to a social, stop waiting for a pity fuck.

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By *litterbabeWoman  over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.


"I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

So even the women you don't find attractive are bothering you on here?

Yeah i'd give up.

None of us agreed to meet anyone we don't fancy when we signed up to online anything, same for offline and in the real world. Tough shit.

Your first phrase doesn't make sense sorry x

spelt it out for you in the above reply.

it's fine to whinge about not getting meets (and you are whinging, again), it's not fine to act like people are not attractive and so shouldn't be fussy about who they meet."

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By *litterbabeWoman  over a year ago

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"I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

So even the women you don't find attractive are bothering you on here?

Yeah i'd give up.

None of us agreed to meet anyone we don't fancy when we signed up to online anything, same for offline and in the real world. Tough shit.

Your first phrase doesn't make sense sorry x

spelt it out for you in the above reply.

it's fine to whinge about not getting meets (and you are whinging, again), it's not fine to act like people are not attractive and so shouldn't be fussy about who they meet."

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I've got pretty much zero sympathy once people start coming out with the "ugly women punching above their weight" laments. My standards are far broader than they would be if I was on a dating site. I've met people for sex I wouldn't date in a million years.

Same here. I'm not lowering my standards to do anyone a favour though, as the OP suggests.

He's not willing to help himself but expects women to be available to him, even the ones he doesn't want."

Please show me where i say i expect women to be available to me please? ? X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's not just single men that find it hard work on here. We are a couple and have been let down by about 4 or 5 blokes this year. I'm told that we may appear to be non-genuine as we have been on here over a year and have no veris by meet. If the 4 or 5 blokes hadn't let us down we might have more veris by meet ! Catch 22. Luckily we find playmates at places other than this site, so no big deal for us.

In short, don't expect anything and you won't be disappointed.

We'll standby now for a mountain of messages from single men saying "I would love to meet you and I won't let you down"... Heard it all before !

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"because the ratio of men to women is much greater it means women can pick and choose and i do not think we need to lower the standards of what we want it just means you need to stand out from the crowd more. like what has been said, clubs may be the way forward or chatting in forums or perhaps in the chat rooms. other than that patience . wouldn't you rather know a woman wanted you and not just anyone.

Im still uneasy with going to a club and if that is going minimise my chance of a meet then i need to understand that.. i go on the chat rooms when i can but its hard to intergrate yourself in them rooms too many people typing to quick lol go into the less busy chatrooms. i do know what you mean about the fast typers, i think they can tell you how many are in a room at a time. do you go on camera when you go in them. i knoe clubs may seem daunting too as i get panic attacks when there are too many people in a space. other than that it looks like the forums may be a help to get yourself noticed x

"

Thanks..i do go on cam but mainly to have fun lol x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It's the way of fab and there's not a great deal you can do to change that, especially if you're happy with your profile and pics.

You either accept it and persevere, or let it get to you and eventually quit the site.

Only other thing to suggest is get along to socials/clubs where there's a better chance of getting to know people face to face. Or be more active on the forums where people can get a better feel for your personality etc.

Good luck

Thanks for the advice. .I've tried most things you said but a club meet is something I couldn't do .. i would meet for a social with a f or mf but not a group social too shy for something like that lol

The only sure way of meeting real people from here is to go to organised socials and clubs and GET TALKING TO PEOPLE. If you are too shy for that (and it's not at all easy for even the more confident people on here) then you are going to continue to struggle. You've got to work it!"

Thanks for the advice x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Winners never quit and quitters never win!

Stop mincing and get on with it!

You big girl's blouse."

Yes boss

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jeez I'm lucky to get a few messages a week so I better get a brown bag"

Me too! I'm bloody princess Fiona for a reason!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Op next thread you write read it through twice then delete will save u a lot of grief "

Never writing another thread ever lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed.

Wondering if the reason the OP didn't reply to this is that it hit the nail on the head about him having something to hide.

Because it is good advice. Get to a social, stop waiting for a pity fuck."

Nothing to hide just don't want to meet a group of people i dont know. ..everyone is different. .that ok? X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think your profile and pictures are good. You are just not going to be everyone's cup of tea.

Why don't you try a social event or even a club social. (There's one not far from you) this way u can meet people and they can get to know u face to face instead.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I know what to get you for xmas, a belt

I agree with some of the other posters, get out to organised social meets to get yourself known if a club is a little too much for you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Go to a club. Go to organised socials.

I hope women you have sent messeges to dont read your thread ! Probably not helped your cause now !

Its only the same as me sending them a message and them deleting it straight away and not replying they obviously think there better than me which is fair enough x"

It is but what are you sending them a message for if you aren't attracted to them? I think they'd find out when it came down to the nitty gritty! Stick to sending messages to those you like the look of. But I agree if you messaged anyone who's seen this thread I doubt they would be interested now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Exactley you cant please everyone

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It is a woman's world on fab and indeed most dating sites.

Some guys can't accept it but it is a fact. Many ladies can abuse the power they have by coming over as arrogant, very rude, deleting or blocking without a reason and with a huge list of dos and donts with the assurance that they can afford to be picky

I personally am picky myself but don't feel I abuse the power we ladies have on here in the slightest. I have met many many lovely guys from all walks of life who have been in much the same boat as you.

You need to have patience as a few have said. I wouldn't ever compromise my privacy however by putting face pics on here just so you are anxious to get meets but of course it is your choice in the end. Your profile seems just fine.

Good luck x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I think your profile and pictures are good. You are just not going to be everyone's cup of tea.

Why don't you try a social event or even a club social. (There's one not far from you) this way u can meet people and they can get to know u face to face instead. "

Thanks..likewise your pics are very nice!

I dont think im anyones cup of tea lol hence the badly worded thread... x

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed.

Wondering if the reason the OP didn't reply to this is that it hit the nail on the head about him having something to hide.

Because it is good advice. Get to a social, stop waiting for a pity fuck.

Nothing to hide just don't want to meet a group of people i dont know. ..everyone is different. .that ok? X"

But you do want to meet people you don't currently know, that's why you are here isn't it?

Problem with cam veris and just fab messaging is, people think, does thus guy actually meet or turn up? Lots of people are dreamers and timewaster.

If you go to a club or a social, immediately you show yourself to be someone who can do something in the real world.

You can do it this way, and it works, or stuck with what you've been doing. Either us fine by me.

Have fun.

MrB

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It is a woman's world on fab and indeed most dating sites.

Some guys can't accept it but it is a fact. Many ladies can abuse the power they have by coming over as arrogant, very rude, deleting or blocking without a reason and with a huge list of dos and donts with the assurance that they can afford to be picky

I personally am picky myself but don't feel I abuse the power we ladies have on here in the slightest. I have met many many lovely guys from all walks of life who have been in much the same boat as you.

You need to have patience as a few have said. I wouldn't ever compromise my privacy however by putting face pics on here just so you are anxious to get meets but of course it is your choice in the end. Your profile seems just fine.

Good luck x"

Your 2nd paragraph is spot on!!

Thanks for the nice message x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Confidence amigo and by reading that you think your not anyones cup of tea, you are lacking it, no disrespect intended of course

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed.

Wondering if the reason the OP didn't reply to this is that it hit the nail on the head about him having something to hide.

Because it is good advice. Get to a social, stop waiting for a pity fuck.

Nothing to hide just don't want to meet a group of people i dont know. ..everyone is different. .that ok? X

But you do want to meet people you don't currently know, that's why you are here isn't it?

Problem with cam veris and just fab messaging is, people think, does thus guy actually meet or turn up? Lots of people are dreamers and timewaster.

If you go to a club or a social, immediately you show yourself to be someone who can do something in the real world.

You can do it this way, and it works, or stuck with what you've been doing. Either us fine by me.

Have fun.

MrB "

I can understand were you are coming from but i would meet a female or a m/f couple for a social or fun meet i just wouldn't go to a place where there was loads of people x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Confidence amigo and by reading that you think your not anyones cup of tea, you are lacking it, no disrespect intended of course"

Im not the most confident person but regarding being someone's cup of tea it doesnt help when you read a lot (not all) profiles saying need be over 6ft,fit and slim with preferably over 8 inch cock or something along them lines lol

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By *ougar_n_TILFCouple  over a year ago

Burton on Trent


"Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed.

Wondering if the reason the OP didn't reply to this is that it hit the nail on the head about him having something to hide.

Because it is good advice. Get to a social, stop waiting for a pity fuck.

Nothing to hide just don't want to meet a group of people i dont know. ..everyone is different. .that ok? X"

Hey, it's fine with us. It's you who has a problem you seem to want easy answers to fixing. The only one who is going to change anything is you, by giving up and leaving the site or giving up and making an effort.

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By *unandbuckCouple  over a year ago

Sheffield


"

But you do want to meet people you don't currently know, that's why you are here isn't it?

Problem with cam veris and just fab messaging is, people think, does thus guy actually meet or turn up? Lots of people are dreamers and timewaster.

If you go to a club or a social, immediately you show yourself to be someone who can do something in the real world.

You can do it this way, and it works, or stuck with what you've been doing. Either us fine by me.

Have fun.

MrB

I can understand were you are coming from but i would meet a female or a m/f couple for a social or fun meet i just wouldn't go to a place where there was loads of people x"

Ok, good luck, stick to your way.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is a woman's world on fab and indeed most dating sites.

Some guys can't accept it but it is a fact. Many ladies can abuse the power they have by coming over as arrogant, very rude, deleting or blocking without a reason and with a huge list of dos and donts with the assurance that they can afford to be picky

I personally am picky myself but don't feel I abuse the power we ladies have on here in the slightest. I have met many many lovely guys from all walks of life who have been in much the same boat as you.

You need to have patience as a few have said. I wouldn't ever compromise my privacy however by putting face pics on here just so you are anxious to get meets but of course it is your choice in the end. Your profile seems just fine.

Good luck x"

Great post

Yes it is skewed to the ladies advantage on here but you will never change that, just deal with it. There are a few Women who develop a bit of an attitude from it but just ignore them like they ignore you. There's plenty of nice ladies on here and you are bound to catch someone's eye eventually, it is difficult to get started I know but it's a case of perseverance and it does get easier. Good luck!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Winners never quit and quitters never win!

Stop mincing and get on with it!

You big girl's blouse.

Yes boss"

Good girl!

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please "

Best thing to do is to try life in the big-wide-world first. If you are failing there, then you will fail here too. If you are winning there, well, then why bother coming here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can I say to you that while socials can be fun they can also be cliquey and bitchy. There can be a 'gang' mentality at socials and parties so just be aware of it. Not always easy to break into an established circle of people I'm afraid. I know of a few couples who have felt 'frozen out' attending socials and parties.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"It is a woman's world on fab and indeed most dating sites.

Some guys can't accept it but it is a fact. Many ladies can abuse the power they have by coming over as arrogant, very rude, deleting or blocking without a reason and with a huge list of dos and donts with the assurance that they can afford to be picky

I personally am picky myself but don't feel I abuse the power we ladies have on here in the slightest. I have met many many lovely guys from all walks of life who have been in much the same boat as you.

You need to have patience as a few have said. I wouldn't ever compromise my privacy however by putting face pics on here just so you are anxious to get meets but of course it is your choice in the end. Your profile seems just fine.

Good luck x

Great post

Yes it is skewed to the ladies advantage on here but you will never change that, just deal with it. There are a few Women who develop a bit of an attitude from it but just ignore them like they ignore you. There's plenty of nice ladies on here and you are bound to catch someone's eye eventually, it is difficult to get started I know but it's a case of perseverance and it does get easier. Good luck! "

Good post totally makes sense. .cheers pal

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

Best thing to do is to try life in the big-wide-world first. If you are failing there, then you will fail here too. If you are winning there, well, then why bother coming here "

Haha cheers

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Can I say to you that while socials can be fun they can also be cliquey and bitchy. There can be a 'gang' mentality at socials and parties so just be aware of it. Not always easy to break into an established circle of people I'm afraid. I know of a few couples who have felt 'frozen out' attending socials and parties."

Well that did enter my mind but i didn't say anything about that in case i upset anyone else...but your comments have been very helpful x

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Profile looks fine to me. The only thing I can say is the fact you can't accommodate will put loads of women off for a start.

Clubs are your best bet

I suppose that doesn't help but i do explain why i can't unfortunately x

well.... this is then going to sound harsh... but i think it needs to be said...

you are then cutting off avenues before you have tried them... and if that is the case that is on you and not on anyone else...

if this site hard work... yes it bloody is, and i say to anyone that if you are expecting maximum results for minimum effort then you are in the wrong place....

the key to a lot of people success is not just relying on a profile... it is getting out there and giving people a reason to say "wow i have to meet that person"...

for a lot of people that will include going to clubs.... for a lot of people that will include going to socials.... because people can see what that person is like... and making an impression face to face is more powerful than words will do alone!!!

Well said Fabio!

"

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"Go. To. A. Social.

There is no possible reason you should not unless you really have something to hide. Like a wedding ring.

Unless you have pathological shyness. In which case you'd be unlikely to meet anyone under any circumstance. Ever.

They are usually held in pubs and not swinger clubs, so basically it's just meeting some mates in a pub.

You need to make the first step yourself. No one here will take pity and give you a sympathy meet.

Sorry for the tone, but tough love needed.

Wondering if the reason the OP didn't reply to this is that it hit the nail on the head about him having something to hide.

Because it is good advice. Get to a social, stop waiting for a pity fuck.

Nothing to hide just don't want to meet a group of people i dont know. ..everyone is different. .that ok? X"

We all have to do that at some stage, otherwise we might as well not be on here

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By *heBlackPantherCouple  over a year ago

Guilford


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please "

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy."

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Have to agree... you tend to reap what you sow in life

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have to agree... you tend to reap what you sow in life "

Just realised I need to hit the 'reply+quote' button... doh..!!

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. "

Perhaps it's not the profile that's wrong?

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By *heBlackPantherCouple  over a year ago

Guilford


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

"

???? How do you know where I live??!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

Perhaps it's not the profile that's wrong? "

What are you referring to? X

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!! "

It says Guildford under your username lol x

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

Perhaps it's not the profile that's wrong?

What are you referring to? X"

That kind of attitude, about the women on here, won't win any brownie points.

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By *heBlackPantherCouple  over a year ago

Guilford


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x"

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

Perhaps it's not the profile that's wrong?

What are you referring to? X

That kind of attitude, about the women on here, won't win any brownie points."

If you read previous posts ive apologised plenty of times for the way i worded it...hope that's ok? X

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

"

Hehe...and what thought was that? X

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think most of us have the same problems but that's just the way of fab. I'm less bothered now about meeting than I was previously

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I think most of us have the same problems but that's just the way of fab. I'm less bothered now about meeting than I was previously "

Im starting to realise that lol

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By *heBlackPantherCouple  over a year ago

Guilford


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

Hehe...and what thought was that? X"

Those pervy cyberstalkers that can find everything about a woman. And then start sending creepy messages like:

-" Hi hottie! I saw you in or shower last night, love the pinky shower curtains. BTW, I know a better porn site that you don't have to pay. Yours is too expensive, wanna try?! Sincerely,

The perv around the corner"

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham


"no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

Perhaps it's not the profile that's wrong?

What are you referring to? X

That kind of attitude, about the women on here, won't win any brownie points.

If you read previous posts ive apologised plenty of times for the way i worded it...hope that's ok? X"

I didn't read them, read the first and thought what I thought

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

Hehe...and what thought was that? X

Those pervy cyberstalkers that can find everything about a woman. And then start sending creepy messages like:

-" Hi hottie! I saw you in or shower last night, love the pinky shower curtains. BTW, I know a better porn site that you don't have to pay. Yours is too expensive, wanna try?! Sincerely,

The perv around the corner"

"

Haha no stalker was just in Farnborough last weekend...like i say wish i was having this convo last Wednesday x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention.

Perhaps it's not the profile that's wrong?

Right no worries x

What are you referring to? X

That kind of attitude, about the women on here, won't win any brownie points.

If you read previous posts ive apologised plenty of times for the way i worded it...hope that's ok? X

I didn't read them, read the first and thought what I thought "

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

Hehe...and what thought was that? X

Those pervy cyberstalkers that can find everything about a woman. And then start sending creepy messages like:

-" Hi hottie! I saw you in or shower last night, love the pinky shower curtains. BTW, I know a better porn site that you don't have to pay. Yours is too expensive, wanna try?! Sincerely,

The perv around the corner"

Haha no stalker was just in Farnborough last weekend...like i say wish i was having this convo last Wednesday x"

Can you not go to Farnborough again, sounds like you have a lady interested to meet you!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

Hehe...and what thought was that? X

Those pervy cyberstalkers that can find everything about a woman. And then start sending creepy messages like:

-" Hi hottie! I saw you in or shower last night, love the pinky shower curtains. BTW, I know a better porn site that you don't have to pay. Yours is too expensive, wanna try?! Sincerely,

The perv around the corner"

Haha no stalker was just in Farnborough last weekend...like i say wish i was having this convo last Wednesday x

Can you not go to Farnborough again, sounds like you have a lady interested to meet you! "

Hopefully next time i go won't be too far away...don't go down that often but might have to make an excuse with work to get me down there lol x

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By *amissCouple  over a year ago

chelmsford


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

Hehe...and what thought was that? X

Those pervy cyberstalkers that can find everything about a woman. And then start sending creepy messages like:

-" Hi hottie! I saw you in or shower last night, love the pinky shower curtains. BTW, I know a better porn site that you don't have to pay. Yours is too expensive, wanna try?! Sincerely,

The perv around the corner"

Haha no stalker was just in Farnborough last weekend...like i say wish i was having this convo last Wednesday x

Can you not go to Farnborough again, sounds like you have a lady interested to meet you!

Hopefully next time i go won't be too far away...don't go down that often but might have to make an excuse with work to get me down there lol x"

Go for it

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"...im finding this site too much hard work with no reward. I've been given advice about my profile description and pics and I've changed it,i send short messages and i send long messages but hardly get any replies. I find on this site that women seem to have the pick of the bunch with guys no matter what they look like and they seem to raise there standards for whatever reason yet if they was on a dating site they wouldnt get half as much attention. Dont get me wrong we all have our flaws and i certainly don't think im massively attactive but i know im not ugly and being honest i've sent messages to women im not massively attracted to and i don't get a reply...personally think expectations could be lower and realistic for most on here not all...sorry if it sounds like im whinging just wouldnt mind a bit of feedback on this please

I would meet you if you weren't so far. You have a nice profile. Don't lose faith 'cause nothing that's worthy comes easy.

Awww thanks for that ..wish you would of mentioned that last week when i was in Farnborough lol..shame i cant see your profile

???? How do you know where I live??!!

It says Guildford under your username lol x

Pheeww!! You got me thinking for a moment there. I thought I found the reason why you weren't lucky here . My apologies

Hehe...and what thought was that? X

Those pervy cyberstalkers that can find everything about a woman. And then start sending creepy messages like:

-" Hi hottie! I saw you in or shower last night, love the pinky shower curtains. BTW, I know a better porn site that you don't have to pay. Yours is too expensive, wanna try?! Sincerely,

The perv around the corner"

Haha no stalker was just in Farnborough last weekend...like i say wish i was having this convo last Wednesday x

Can you not go to Farnborough again, sounds like you have a lady interested to meet you!

Hopefully next time i go won't be too far away...don't go down that often but might have to make an excuse with work to get me down there lol x

Go for it "

I may just do that lol x

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