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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Has anyone else noticed the number of people on this site who deride bisexual men or cross-dressing men as not being 'real'?
Just because I suck cock, take it up the arse, and am happy to meet cross-dressers and/or transwomen does not make me 'less' of a man... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thanks for that information my lovely. In answer to your question, no, I haven't noticed that."
Nor me
Only thing I dislike about bi men is when they don't invite me to watch  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Also if a man states he is bisexual it doesn't necessarily mean that he is on here looking to suck cock or cross-dress etc. I'm still all for the label of 'sexual' then people can share their likes/dislikes/interests as appropriate. To me all the categories and classifications (whilst sometimes helpful) are too narrow. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Can't say I've noticed anyone deriding bi men. If anything, the ladies and couples that seek them positively swoon about them  "
Yes, most ladies and couples do seem to enjoy the company of bi guys.
Unfortunately, I've come across a number of ladies and couples who take the view that bi men aren't 'real men,' and are quite happy to say so... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"if a man states he is bisexual it doesn't necessarily mean that he is on here looking to suck cock or cross-dress etc."
Very true.
My point is that is a guy IS on here for either or both of those things, he isn't any less of a man... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi."
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think what a lot of people might take the hump at is guys who are (fab straight), ie looking for TV/TS and most of there veries are bi men just my thought |
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"Has anyone else noticed the number of people on this site who deride bisexual men or cross-dressing men as not being 'real'?
Just because I suck cock, take it up the arse, and am happy to meet cross-dressers and/or transwomen does not make me 'less' of a man..."
I think there are a significant number of men on here who think some of us women in couples need a real man to satisfy us because we don't have one. My OH is bi and black, but I dont need any other man .... because no-one excites me like he does |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority..."
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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I have absolutely no preference one way or the other. The bisexual men I have met are all real men. Some I met not knowing that they were bisexual and was only told later
And what these men do with other men, varies. I have no interest in watching two men having sex together; but other than that, I couldn't care less as long as I receive the same type of attention from a bisexual man as I would from a straight man |
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By *harpDressed ManMan
over a year ago
Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else |
"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority..."
And the answer appears to be that they're a lot less vocal than you thought. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you."
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
When we first signed up to this site 9 months ago I identified as Bi Curious on our couples account, having now set up this solo profile to run alongside it (and following some same sex encounters in the interim) I now identify as Bisexual - in all that time I've not experienced any negativity directed at me, quite the opposite.
Sure there are profiles thst openly state they won't meet bi guys, and there have been forum threads that have got heated on the subject, but I just view it as another preference that people have, unless of course they make ridiculously homophobic comments to defend their preference, which for the most part I've not seen. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nope, never seen anything like Op describes. Another look at me post? "
Seen status and profiles like the OP describes quite often so don't think it's a look at me post.
There was a status earlier this evening from a couple in Colchester "we are sick and disgusted by bi men, if you've met a TV or a man ur gay"
Another, different profile, states "don't get in contact with us if you've been with a TV or a man, your a fag and we don't want you c*nts (it wasn't censored) any where near us"
Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to personal preference as to who and what sexual orientation they wish to play with, but my personal view is the above statements go beyond that into bigotry.
I'm guessing the op has come across similar profiles, though thankfully they are in the minority on here |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you."
How many times do I have to say it?
I'm talking about a MINORITY of people. I'm taking is as read that MOST of the couples and women on Fab have no issues with bi guys... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones "
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers." |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers.""
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with. |
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"Can't say I've noticed anyone deriding bi men. If anything, the ladies and couples that seek them positively swoon about them
Yes, most ladies and couples do seem to enjoy the company of bi guys.
Unfortunately, I've come across a number of ladies and couples who take the view that bi men aren't 'real men,' and are quite happy to say so..."
They're allowed their views as are you. You know not to message them. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with."
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nope, never seen anything like Op describes. Another look at me post?
Seen status and profiles like the OP describes quite often so don't think it's a look at me post.
There was a status earlier this evening from a couple in Colchester "we are sick and disgusted by bi men, if you've met a TV or a man ur gay"
Another, different profile, states "don't get in contact with us if you've been with a TV or a man, your a fag and we don't want you c*nts (it wasn't censored) any where near us"
Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to personal preference as to who and what sexual orientation they wish to play with, but my personal view is the above statements go beyond that into bigotry.
I'm guessing the op has come across similar profiles, though thankfully they are in the minority on here"
I stand by my last post. We are both bi and ne er come across this!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out..."
I do empathise with the way you're feeling, totally. But you will be happier if you move on and forget about people like that. Don't waste any energy.
It's easier said than done I know, but concentrate on those who do want to meet bi men. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Nope, never seen anything like Op describes. Another look at me post?
Seen status and profiles like the OP describes quite often so don't think it's a look at me post.
There was a status earlier this evening from a couple in Colchester "we are sick and disgusted by bi men, if you've met a TV or a man ur gay"
Another, different profile, states "don't get in contact with us if you've been with a TV or a man, your a fag and we don't want you c*nts (it wasn't censored) any where near us"
Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to personal preference as to who and what sexual orientation they wish to play with, but my personal view is the above statements go beyond that into bigotry.
I'm guessing the op has come across similar profiles, though thankfully they are in the minority on here
I stand by my last post. We are both bi and ne er come across this!!"
Got news for you: just because you've been fortunate enough to never come across it, doesn't mean that it's not happening.
As I said, I came across a profile earlier today which ended with the phrase: "I want real men; not bisexuals or tranny shaggers." |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out..."
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you."
Ah yes...the old 'put up and shut up' or 'why all the drama?' defence.
Do they have a right to say negative stuff? Yes.
Do they have a right to expect not to be criticised for saying it? No.
I can't stop them from saying it, but that doesn't mean that I should be expected to put up with it.
People who make derogatory comments about others based purely upon their sexual orientation should be called out, not simply ignored. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you.
Ah yes...the old 'put up and shut up' or 'why all the drama?' defence.
Do they have a right to say negative stuff? Yes.
Do they have a right to expect not to be criticised for saying it? No.
I can't stop them from saying it, but that doesn't mean that I should be expected to put up with it.
People who make derogatory comments about others based purely upon their sexual orientation should be called out, not simply ignored."
I said nothing about put up / shut up. I simply see one man getting upset about it cos he chooses to be upset. Well, you go ahead and enjoy that upset.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you.
Ah yes...the old 'put up and shut up' or 'why all the drama?' defence.
Do they have a right to say negative stuff? Yes.
Do they have a right to expect not to be criticised for saying it? No.
I can't stop them from saying it, but that doesn't mean that I should be expected to put up with it.
People who make derogatory comments about others based purely upon their sexual orientation should be called out, not simply ignored.
I said nothing about put up / shut up. I simply see one man getting upset about it cos he chooses to be upset. Well, you go ahead and enjoy that upset. "
Apologies...misunderstood the meaning of 'put up/shut up'...damn abbreviations...I blame Twitter.
Anyhow, my objection stands. You're complaining because I object to people making offensive remarks about bisexuals. What gives you the right to tell me how I should or should not react to that? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you.
Ah yes...the old 'put up and shut up' or 'why all the drama?' defence.
Do they have a right to say negative stuff? Yes.
Do they have a right to expect not to be criticised for saying it? No.
I can't stop them from saying it, but that doesn't mean that I should be expected to put up with it.
People who make derogatory comments about others based purely upon their sexual orientation should be called out, not simply ignored.
I said nothing about put up / shut up. I simply see one man getting upset about it cos he chooses to be upset. Well, you go ahead and enjoy that upset.
Apologies...misunderstood the meaning of 'put up/shut up'...damn abbreviations...I blame Twitter.
Anyhow, my objection stands. You're complaining because I object to people making offensive remarks about bisexuals. What gives you the right to tell me how I should or should not react to that?"
Where have I complained? Where have I told you how to react? You have chosen how to react and I have stated an alternative to reduce upset/drama/negativity. You blatantly revel in this reaction so I told you to enjoy  . You're trying to pick an argument where there is bone. I find that hilarious.
Most men I have ever known have avoided drama like the plaque. Are THEY real men? I have no idea  . |
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Your answers are somewhat confrontational. You do seem to be spoiling for a fight over someone's point of view. Is it right no, can you do anything about it? No. No point pissing and moaning about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Your answers are somewhat confrontational. You do seem to be spoiling for a fight over someone's point of view. Is it right no, can you do anything about it? No. No point pissing and moaning about it. "
I was trying to help which fell flat. Now I'm amused  |
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"Your answers are somewhat confrontational. You do seem to be spoiling for a fight over someone's point of view. Is it right no, can you do anything about it? No. No point pissing and moaning about it.
I was trying to help which fell flat. Now I'm amused "
Not you cupcake! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Your answers are somewhat confrontational. You do seem to be spoiling for a fight over someone's point of view. Is it right no, can you do anything about it? No. No point pissing and moaning about it.
I was trying to help which fell flat. Now I'm amused
Not you cupcake! "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you.
Ah yes...the old 'put up and shut up' or 'why all the drama?' defence.
Do they have a right to say negative stuff? Yes.
Do they have a right to expect not to be criticised for saying it? No.
I can't stop them from saying it, but that doesn't mean that I should be expected to put up with it.
People who make derogatory comments about others based purely upon their sexual orientation should be called out, not simply ignored.
I said nothing about put up / shut up. I simply see one man getting upset about it cos he chooses to be upset. Well, you go ahead and enjoy that upset.
Apologies...misunderstood the meaning of 'put up/shut up'...damn abbreviations...I blame Twitter.
Anyhow, my objection stands. You're complaining because I object to people making offensive remarks about bisexuals. What gives you the right to tell me how I should or should not react to that?
Where have I complained? Where have I told you how to react? You have chosen how to react and I have stated an alternative to reduce upset/drama/negativity. You blatantly revel in this reaction so I told you to enjoy . You're trying to pick an argument where there is bone. I find that hilarious.
Most men I have ever known have avoided drama like the plaque. Are THEY real men? I have no idea ."
Bone and plaque? This isn't anatomy and physiology . I must zzzzz |
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
Your choice to let it affect you or not. Your choice to have that drama or negativity in your life. You won't be able to stop people from making their statements but you can stop them affecting you.
Ah yes...the old 'put up and shut up' or 'why all the drama?' defence.
Do they have a right to say negative stuff? Yes.
Do they have a right to expect not to be criticised for saying it? No.
I can't stop them from saying it, but that doesn't mean that I should be expected to put up with it.
People who make derogatory comments about others based purely upon their sexual orientation should be called out, not simply ignored.
I said nothing about put up / shut up. I simply see one man getting upset about it cos he chooses to be upset. Well, you go ahead and enjoy that upset.
Apologies...misunderstood the meaning of 'put up/shut up'...damn abbreviations...I blame Twitter.
Anyhow, my objection stands. You're complaining because I object to people making offensive remarks about bisexuals. What gives you the right to tell me how I should or should not react to that?
Where have I complained? Where have I told you how to react? You have chosen how to react and I have stated an alternative to reduce upset/drama/negativity. You blatantly revel in this reaction so I told you to enjoy . You're trying to pick an argument where there is bone. I find that hilarious.
Most men I have ever known have avoided drama like the plaque. Are THEY real men? I have no idea .
Bone and plaque? This isn't anatomy and physiology . I must zzzzz"
Did make me laugh reading it though... So thanks! |
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"Where have I complained? Where have I told you how to react? You have chosen how to react and I have stated an alternative to reduce upset/drama/negativity."
You've answered your own question there.
By telling me not to encourage 'drama,' 'upset,' and 'negativity,' you're implying that my complaint is not justified. Ergo, you're telling me how to react. |
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"Is there any women or men on this site willing to phone sex right now ?? "
Try putting up a status... Or your own thread. Doubtful it will work on the forums though, I'm afraid. |
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"Where have I complained? Where have I told you how to react? You have chosen how to react and I have stated an alternative to reduce upset/drama/negativity.
You've answered your own question there.
By telling me not to encourage 'drama,' 'upset,' and 'negativity,' you're implying that my complaint is not justified. Ergo, you're telling me how to react."
Bless ya cotton socks and frilly knickers you don't have a clue.
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
I do empathise with the way you're feeling, totally. But you will be happier if you move on and forget about people like that. Don't waste any energy.
It's easier said than done I know, but concentrate on those who do want to meet bi men. "
I have no problem with people who simply don't wish to meet bi men.
What I object to is when people make insulting remarks such as those flagged by myself and sparks76... |
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I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view  |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view "
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF! |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF! "
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF!
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome"
Did you have to count, typing that? |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF!
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome
Did you have to count, typing that? "
No but the images from those meets in my Wank Bank were distracting me and slowing my typing |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF!
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome
Did you have to count, typing that?
No but the images from those meets in my Wank Bank were distracting me and slowing my typing "
I get that... I would be too busy using my hands to hold my wand, than type, if I had those images in my head! |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF!
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome
Did you have to count, typing that?
No but the images from those meets in my Wank Bank were distracting me and slowing my typing
I get that... I would be too busy using my hands to hold my wand, than type, if I had those images in my head! "
You need a WiFi enabled wand with integrated keypad |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF!
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome
Did you have to count, typing that?
No but the images from those meets in my Wank Bank were distracting me and slowing my typing
I get that... I would be too busy using my hands to hold my wand, than type, if I had those images in my head!
You need a WiFi enabled wand with integrated keypad"
Delete that comment quick!... You can invent it then! I'd buy one! As would others |
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"I must admit I do have a chuckle at the number of profiles that don't want bi males keep having repeat looks at my profile.....it's not as if I'm changing back to straight in the time since their last view
I personally love bi males. One of my regular playmates was bi curious... It made for a very interesting MMF!
As much as I like a bi mmf, a couple of bi mmmff thisvyear have been awesome
Did you have to count, typing that?
No but the images from those meets in my Wank Bank were distracting me and slowing my typing
I get that... I would be too busy using my hands to hold my wand, than type, if I had those images in my head!
You need a WiFi enabled wand with integrated keypad
Delete that comment quick!... You can invent it then! I'd buy one! As would others "
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over a year ago
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers."
Their opinion. Don't take it personally. Move onto someone you would be compatible with.
Sorry, but I do 'take it personally.' Being bisexual doesn't make you 'less of a man.' It's because of those sorts of 'opinions' that so many people are afraid of coming out...
I do empathise with the way you're feeling, totally. But you will be happier if you move on and forget about people like that. Don't waste any energy.
It's easier said than done I know, but concentrate on those who do want to meet bi men.
I have no problem with people who simply don't wish to meet bi men.
What I object to is when people make insulting remarks such as those flagged by myself and sparks76..."
Report such profiles and block them |
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From the lofty heights of our 4 months on Fab I think the people here are amazingly kind and liberal. We were on a well known fetish site and the amount of bitchiness and vitriol was staggering. I'm bi-curious and am probably bisexual; its just that I haven't had enough experience yet to publicly proclaim it (now there's a subtle piece of advertising) ... and we have bisexual men friends one of whom happens to be the best friend of S. We took him to Thailand for his 50th and met a parade of very hot and lovely ladyboys troop in and out of his room. The point I'm trying to make (badly) is that I cannot understand why anyone would frown upon someone who is bi... after all the same people who rejected you are absolutely gagging for a bi girl to join them. Perhaps they are closet bi themselves. Happy hunting. Cxx |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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Do you mean 'real' men as in that they exist and it's not a fake profile or that they are effeminate and not manly?
I knew a guy who was very effeminate even had a high pitched voice but was straight. Looks can be deceiving x |
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"Nope, never seen anything like Op describes. Another look at me post?
Seen status and profiles like the OP describes quite often so don't think it's a look at me post.
There was a status earlier this evening from a couple in Colchester "we are sick and disgusted by bi men, if you've met a TV or a man ur gay"
Another, different profile, states "don't get in contact with us if you've been with a TV or a man, your a fag and we don't want you c*nts (it wasn't censored) any where near us"
Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to personal preference as to who and what sexual orientation they wish to play with, but my personal view is the above statements go beyond that into bigotry.
I'm guessing the op has come across similar profiles, though thankfully they are in the minority on here
I stand by my last post. We are both bi and ne er come across this!!
Got news for you: just because you've been fortunate enough to never come across it, doesn't mean that it's not happening.
As I said, I came across a profile earlier today which ended with the phrase: "I want real men; not bisexuals or tranny shaggers.""
Well I hope you reported the profile for the way it was worded.
There's no room for homophobia or transphobia. To write it like that is highly offensive and illegal.
I have no issue with people who would rather stay away from bisexual, gay, tv, cd, transgender..... I do have issue if they are phobic and rude about their choice. |
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"Nope, never seen anything like Op describes. Another look at me post?
Seen status and profiles like the OP describes quite often so don't think it's a look at me post.
There was a status earlier this evening from a couple in Colchester "we are sick and disgusted by bi men, if you've met a TV or a man ur gay"
Another, different profile, states "don't get in contact with us if you've been with a TV or a man, your a fag and we don't want you c*nts (it wasn't censored) any where near us"
Don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to personal preference as to who and what sexual orientation they wish to play with, but my personal view is the above statements go beyond that into bigotry.
I'm guessing the op has come across similar profiles, though thankfully they are in the minority on here
I stand by my last post. We are both bi and ne er come across this!!
Got news for you: just because you've been fortunate enough to never come across it, doesn't mean that it's not happening.
As I said, I came across a profile earlier today which ended with the phrase: "I want real men; not bisexuals or tranny shaggers."
Well I hope you reported the profile for the way it was worded.
There's no room for homophobia or transphobia. To write it like that is highly offensive and illegal.
I have no issue with people who would rather stay away from bisexual, gay, tv, cd, transgender..... I do have issue if they are phobic and rude about their choice. "
Unfortunately, they blocked me when I confronted them about it, so I can't report the profile... |
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"after all the same people who rejected you are absolutely gagging for a bi girl to join them. Perhaps they are closet bi themselves. Happy hunting. Cxx"
These people haven't 'rejected' me, because I've not even bothered asking them to meet...
However, you do make a good point. I wonder how many people who hurl insults and turn their noses up at bi guys whoop and holler with lust at the merest hint of a wink from a bi woman? |
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"after all the same people who rejected you are absolutely gagging for a bi girl to join them. Perhaps they are closet bi themselves. Happy hunting. Cxx
These people haven't 'rejected' me, because I've not even bothered asking them to meet...
However, you do make a good point. I wonder how many people who hurl insults and turn their noses up at bi guys whoop and holler with lust at the merest hint of a wink from a bi woman?"
Lots. It's also interesting to meet some of them in person in a club only to find mr is interested in me but his mrs is very anti. |
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"Do you mean 'real' men as in that they exist and it's not a fake profile or that they are effeminate and not manly?
I knew a guy who was very effeminate even had a high pitched voice but was straight. Looks can be deceiving x"
As I said, the profile which prompted me to start this thread was one on which the user claimed that bisexuals and men who meet transwomen are not 'real' men... |
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"Quite the opposite really - I find most people on here go overboard on bi-men. I only dislike bi men who seem to assume that all men are closet bi.
As I said, the majority of people on this site are very welcoming towards bi guys...I'm talking about a small but vocal minority...
Do a forum search for bi mmf..... the amount of couples and women that enjoy this will surprise you.
The problem is with a lot of people if they don't care about the hundreds of positive comments they'd sooner dwell on the few negative ones
Well sorry for 'dwelling on the few negatives.'
It's just rather disconcerting when you come across a profile, everything looks fine and dandy, and then you see the statement: "I only meet REAL MEN [bold mine] so no Bi guys or Tranny Shaggers.""
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The beauty and the beast of the anonymity of the internet means that people can pretty much say what they want, when they want to, with little come -back. (Unless they are a celeb Tweeting rubbish). Whilst very few would stalk up to you in a Club or pub, poke you in the chest with an indignant finger, (all supposing they knew what your preferences were, or you were dressed in a pink tutu grasping another guy's cock) and spit obscenities, they feel safe as keyboard warriors and allow themselves free-rein to their most darkest bigotries online. You only have to scrape the surface of the forum posts to see what one sex thinks of the other and some of the name-calling and virtual hair-pulling that goes on. The secret here is to develop a thick skin, read, digest, block and move on. The great thing is that at least they have nailed their colours to the Fab mast, so you may not waste more than a second of your time deciding you will never meet and so can move onto the next profile. The more scary ones, are those who hide their bigotry and only reveal it when it can do the worst damage. |
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I don't know about the 'real man' side of it, but there are people that avoid bi guys because statistically they are a higher sexual health risk.
Why are you so annoyed by the opinions of people that you will never meet!?! Do YOU feel like less of a man? How do you feel about your mother?
I knew that acme degree in psychology would come in handy one day.
Seriously though. Block and move on. Nobody can MAKE you feel bad about anything. |
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"Has anyone else noticed the number of people on this site who deride bisexual men or cross-dressing men as not being 'real'?
Just because I suck cock, take it up the arse, and am happy to meet cross-dressers and/or transwomen does not make me 'less' of a man..."
Yes in the past year I've seen it quite a bit. But I just take a deep breath and know that deep down they want cock too xx |
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"Why are you so annoyed by the opinions of people that you will never meet!?! Do YOU feel like less of a man? How do you feel about your mother?"
Why do I care? Because I believe that people with bigoted opinions and who make derogatory comments should be challenged, not simply ignored. |
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No But I am a straight guy and have no problem with Bi or gay guys. I did object though when Guys get in touch even though my profile says straight. And when I said no getting abuse Ended up putting a block on bi TV and gay guys cos of it. |
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"I don't know about the 'real man' side of it, but there are people that avoid bi guys because statistically they are a higher sexual health risk.
Why are you so annoyed by the opinions of people that you will never meet!?! Do YOU feel like less of a man? How do you feel about your mother?
I knew that acme degree in psychology would come in handy one day.
Seriously though. Block and move on. Nobody can MAKE you feel bad about anything. "
I see that quoted a lot. Statistically we are not higher risk than swingers. Just higher risk than people who don't sleep around. |
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"I don't know about the 'real man' side of it, but there are people that avoid bi guys because statistically they are a higher sexual health risk.
Why are you so annoyed by the opinions of people that you will never meet!?! Do YOU feel like less of a man? How do you feel about your mother?
I knew that acme degree in psychology would come in handy one day.
Seriously though. Block and move on. Nobody can MAKE you feel bad about anything.
I see that quoted a lot. Statistically we are not higher risk than swingers. Just higher risk than people who don't sleep around. "
To be honest, I don't doubt that. There would be no way to divide swingers that have absolutely no history with bi men, from those with.
It's the same mentality as those that will only go bareback with 'clean' people. |
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You should do as you please and let others get on with what they are looking for. You can't be open minded and crave acceptance whilst lambasting others for their preferences. Just saying. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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I am afraid that anal sex is riskier, whether it is a man on the receiving end or a woman
Bi-men, Gay-men, CDs/TVs/TSs are more likely to be indulging in this activity than a heterosexual couple may
Twisting facts isn't going to make ones case. However, the fact that this category of people are at a higher risk still is no justification for others to hurl insults at them |
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"You should do as you please and let others get on with what they are looking for. You can't be open minded and crave acceptance whilst lambasting others for their preferences. Just saying. "
Oh right, so saying that bisexual men aren't 'real men,' and implying that they are somehow 'less' than heterosexual men is just stating a 'preference'...
You don't like bi guys? That's your affair. But don't you dare to presume that we are less 'manly' than straight guys just because we swing both ways... |
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I tell you; it takes a strong will to walk down the high street or into your local looking like this.
To admit I don't accept my given gender let alone that I fancy men too.
If I were less strong I'd hide away from the potential confrontation. |
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"You should do as you please and let others get on with what they are looking for. You can't be open minded and crave acceptance whilst lambasting others for their preferences. Just saying.
Oh right, so saying that bisexual men aren't 'real men,' and implying that they are somehow 'less' than heterosexual men is just stating a 'preference'...
You don't like bi guys? That's your affair. But don't you dare to presume that we are less 'manly' than straight guys just because we swing both ways..."
Don't read it then.. people are free to presume what they wish. I wouldn't dream of trying to control someone else's thoughts. |
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"I tell you; it takes a strong will to walk down the high street or into your local looking like this.
To admit I don't accept my given gender let alone that I fancy men too.
If I were less strong I'd hide away from the potential confrontation. "
I suppose that's the difference between keyboard warriors and people being hostile in real life.
I've seen profiles, forum posts and status updates similar to what the OP is alluding too and just brushed it of.
But when my wife and I have seen hostility towards certain groups at swingers socials via snide remarks and dirty looks, it does open your eyes to the number of unpleasant people on this scene. |
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over a year ago
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"You should do as you please and let others get on with what they are looking for. You can't be open minded and crave acceptance whilst lambasting others for their preferences. Just saying.
Oh right, so saying that bisexual men aren't 'real men,' and implying that they are somehow 'less' than heterosexual men is just stating a 'preference'...
You don't like bi guys? That's your affair. But don't you dare to presume that we are less 'manly' than straight guys just because we swing both ways...
Don't read it then.. people are free to presume what they wish. I wouldn't dream of trying to control someone else's thoughts. "
There's a difference between wanting to 'control someone's thoughts' and calling them out for saying something offensive and daft. |
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"You should do as you please and let others get on with what they are looking for. You can't be open minded and crave acceptance whilst lambasting others for their preferences. Just saying.
Oh right, so saying that bisexual men aren't 'real men,' and implying that they are somehow 'less' than heterosexual men is just stating a 'preference'...
You don't like bi guys? That's your affair. But don't you dare to presume that we are less 'manly' than straight guys just because we swing both ways..."
You doth protest too much.
If someone is being offensive in the written word then report. If admin agree they will delete the said offending words and give the member a warning. If they don't agree then tough.
If I wanted to put on my profile that I require a real man/ man's man / or manly man, then I can. I don't as I believe there are better ways of expressing my need for a dominant man. The point is, my perception is exactly that - mine. As yours is yours. Those words are not offensive and yet you may be offended by them. Would that be my problem? No, because you are choosing to be offended.
Personally I don't think that being bi is "unmanly", it is merely a sexual orientation, however I think dressing in female lingerie is "unmanly". Do my thoughts make me correct or offensive? Neither! They are my thoughts which I am allowed to have and to express as long as I do not do it in an insulting fashion.
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"You should do as you please and let others get on with what they are looking for. You can't be open minded and crave acceptance whilst lambasting others for their preferences. Just saying.
Oh right, so saying that bisexual men aren't 'real men,' and implying that they are somehow 'less' than heterosexual men is just stating a 'preference'...
You don't like bi guys? That's your affair. But don't you dare to presume that we are less 'manly' than straight guys just because we swing both ways...
You doth protest too much.
If someone is being offensive in the written word then report. If admin agree they will delete the said offending words and give the member a warning. If they don't agree then tough.
If I wanted to put on my profile that I require a real man/ man's man / or manly man, then I can. I don't as I believe there are better ways of expressing my need for a dominant man. The point is, my perception is exactly that - mine. As yours is yours. Those words are not offensive and yet you may be offended by them. Would that be my problem? No, because you are choosing to be offended.
Personally I don't think that being bi is "unmanly", it is merely a sexual orientation, however I think dressing in female lingerie is "unmanly". Do my thoughts make me correct or offensive? Neither! They are my thoughts which I am allowed to have and to express as long as I do not do it in an insulting fashion.
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I completely agree with you here.
Bi men are no more likely to be more or less manly. Dominant tops are often very manly. Interestingly, guys who are bottom can be too.
By dressing in lingerie you are clearly doing something less 'manly' at that moment in time. You may be an absolute knuckle scraper most of the time but in knickers and stockings you're lessening your manliness for sexual purposes.
Someone like me rejects their given gender and I try to shed everything manly about me. |
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