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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Great many years ago but with changes to the law wouldn't even go there now"
I'm not sure the law has changed... just peoples awareness of what can constitute rape. |
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By *izbitMan
over a year ago
St Helens |
The laws where reformed and clarified, some due to new da laws and consent was re clarified. So yes basically from a male perspective, engaging in any sexual activity with a party who's consumed alcohol could lead to prosecution |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love it! I'm so much more slutty and I'm not ashamed. I've never been so d*unk that I didn't know exactly what I was doing and it enhanced the feeling. It has alway been consensual |
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D*unk sex can be ok with a regular partner.. been there a few times with a relgular fb where we both got d*unk on a night out.. got a bit randy on dance floor and journey home.. got into bed and started to get intimate and both crashed out or room kept spinning..so sex went off list. That for me is ok.. but on a date.. a no no from me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What came out as the Ched Evans appeal is that a d*unk woman having sex does not necessarily mean there is no consent.
However the principle is and should be no one should have sex with another unless genuine consent is given. Intoxication prevents genuine consent.
In practice this means that a man who has sex with a woman who is d*unk (and not necessarily incable or comatose) risks being prosecuted for rape.
That includes in swinging clubs, in relationships and even if married.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Not for me. I prefer to be sober when playing. Nothing sexy about pissed up sex for me."
Agreed. I want to remember great sex and enjoy it. Nothing wrong with a couple of drinks to relax though but I would never play with a d*unk guy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The laws where reformed and clarified, some due to new da laws and consent was re clarified. So yes basically from a male perspective, engaging in any sexual activity with a party who's consumed alcohol could lead to prosecution "
If you're refering to the Ched Evans case, the laws were not 'reformed'. They are exactly the same as they were before.
However what the Ched Evans case *might* have taught us is that it's ok to have sex with women who don't consent, if you are brazen enough to go through the appeals procedure, using her sexual history against her... |
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By *izbitMan
over a year ago
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Did I mention that case? No I specified the Da laws that came into practice.
That particular case does highlight that the police don't need a allegation in person though to charge a person under the new law though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did I mention that case? No I specified the Da laws that came into practice.
That particular case does highlight that the police don't need a allegation in person though to charge a person under the new law though."
I'm interested - could you specify which laws that came into practice? The act and the year? |
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"Section 76 of the serious crime act 2015"
Which is nothing to do with this, or consent ( or not) when d*unk, the law remains the same.
This " new" law is about ensuring that controlling behaviour , in a relationship, is regarded as a specific crime.
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By *izbitMan
over a year ago
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"Section 76 of the serious crime act 2015
Which is nothing to do with this, or consent ( or not) when d*unk, the law remains the same.
This " new" law is about ensuring that controlling behaviour , in a relationship, is regarded as a specific crime.
It raises the point of how consent is applied in cases. Verbal yes doesn't substantially mean consent
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"Section 76 of the serious crime act 2015
Which is nothing to do with this, or consent ( or not) when d*unk, the law remains the same.
This " new" law is about ensuring that controlling behaviour , in a relationship, is regarded as a specific crime.
It raises the point of how consent is applied in cases. Verbal yes doesn't substantially mean consent
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It makes no difference in the case if " d*unk sex".
The application or not of defining consent is formed by interpretation of case law.
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By *izbitMan
over a year ago
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Which simply put coincides with the initial remark that with these additional and established laws in place then no I wouldn't enjoy 'd*unk sex' in or out of a relationship because of potential repercussions |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok so what do ppl think about sex when your d*unk I love it some times " no way! I don't drink at all now and haven't for years and I would only play sober anyway I want to know what I'm fully doing and in charge of what is going on and drink sometimes makes you do things that wouldn't do normally and that's not me! We seen a female stagger into a room we was playing in and she couldn't hard speak or walk and this was on a couples night it's shocking.So strictly sober for me and that's always with Mrs anyway so I'm perfectly happy with that |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
Ashton Under Lyne |
"Great many years ago but with changes to the law wouldn't even go there now
I'm not sure the law has changed... just peoples awareness of what can constitute rape."
Quite true. I'm pretty sure a few of my d*unk sexploits could have been classified as rape. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Did I mention that case? No I specified the Da laws that came into practice.
That particular case does highlight that the police don't need a allegation in person though to charge a person under the new law though.
I'm interested - could you specify which laws that came into practice? The act and the year?"
In Scotland we got the sexual offences act which moved rape (and other sexual offences) from a common law crime to a statutory one. It also made it a gender neutral law. Thankfully.
It also has a section about consent whilst under the influence of alcohol / drugs |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Which simply put coincides with the initial remark that with these additional and established laws in place then no I wouldn't enjoy 'd*unk sex' in or out of a relationship because of potential repercussions "
You must be a really great person if your only worry is getting arrested, rather than ensuring that the person you're with actually wants your penis in them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I sometimes wonder if id get rid of the nerves if I had a drink but I always drive so no can do. And we wont play with people who are d*unk... Ive had sex with Mr when hes been d*unk a few times but its not as good when i have to tell him point by point the next day.. prefer to share the experience x |
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By *izbitMan
over a year ago
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"Which simply put coincides with the initial remark that with these additional and established laws in place then no I wouldn't enjoy 'd*unk sex' in or out of a relationship because of potential repercussions
You must be a really great person if your only worry is getting arrested, rather than ensuring that the person you're with actually wants your penis in them."
As discussed the area of consent is questionable in areas now so regardless of being a 'great person' is the ramifications actually worth not airing on caution or abstinence |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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With somebody off here no i wouldn't get d*unk or have sex with somebody who is d*unk, with certain people who are closer to me than somebody i just meet for sex then yes, a few d*unks before sex is fine |
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I've had sex when tipsy but very, very rarely when d*unk. The only times I can remember are with women I have been in committed relationships with after a night out together.
I would never pick someone up in a pub/club if either of us was d*unk. Even after 12 pints or a skinful of spirits I'm sensible enough to know that consent is an issue. Not to mention performance.
As Michael Flanders sung..."It's inclined to affect me prowess!" |
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I will have one shot of vodka before going to a club to ease mild social anxiety. And nothing more, though I did once have half a glass of wine as a friend left early and offered it to me.
Not one for being d*unk at a swingers club at all. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok so what do ppl think about sex when your d*unk I love it some times "
Not completely d*unk (I never been) but after few drinks why not, but I have problem with this because I can't finished, my cock is hard and red even black lol and can't spunk lol |
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"Which simply put coincides with the initial remark that with these additional and established laws in place then no I wouldn't enjoy 'd*unk sex' in or out of a relationship because of potential repercussions
You must be a really great person if your only worry is getting arrested, rather than ensuring that the person you're with actually wants your penis in them."
Maybe its the fact that the lady could potentially change her mind afterwards and claim that she could not have consented as she was d*unk.
I'd say he is very wise to be cautious and cover himself against potential life ruining experiences should he be accused of rape. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Nah. I'm pretty uselss for anything besides talking when I'm d*unk. And I even try to limit my talking because I tend to be honest about things I shouldn't be honest about |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"Which simply put coincides with the initial remark that with these additional and established laws in place then no I wouldn't enjoy 'd*unk sex' in or out of a relationship because of potential repercussions
You must be a really great person if your only worry is getting arrested, rather than ensuring that the person you're with actually wants your penis in them."
How do you do that,it's brilliant.
You've just disagreed,with a poster,who was agreeing with you.
Now that's seriously disagreeable.
I'm thinking,no alcohol consumption 24 hours prior to any sexual activity.
A 14 day cooling off period.
Signed papers,outlining and agreeing any sexual activity to take place.
(fingers crossed there's a blowjob in there somewhere)
Said papers,to be countersigned by a member of the royal family.
Failing that,a member of the judiciary would suffice.
Then,throw caution to the wind,and get down and as dirty as the agreement will allow.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's not my thing. I don't think that d*unk people can consent, and I want consent whenever I play."
Exactly this! One or two is OK, but if you've had enough to actually be d*unk all you're getting from me is a cuddle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I enjoy it when playing with someone I see regularly as I feel safe with them and I tend to let myself go somuch more if a bit tiddly. "
It's way better just having that comfort factor... way more boundaries explored n great open fun |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ok so what do ppl think about sex when your d*unk I love it some times "
Best sex ever. !
*i just can't seem to remember it, or who it was with.
Or if it actually happened. |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
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Don't know maybe I'm misunderstanding you all on the definition of "d*unk" or maybe I'm on a different planet. Maybe both!
I have had a few times when I was really really "d*unk" (= so d*unk to be not in one's senses) and things happened that I don't even remember. Yes, probably not the wisest thing to do but the blokes I was drinking with, I had already decided I wanted sex and so it was consensual in a manner of speaking. Maybe at the time I fucked, I wasn't in my senses but it was pleasure and consensual all in one. But agreed, since I was in a group there may well have been someone I would not have normally had sex with and perhaps those could be classified as "rape". Don't think so but I give you that. But honestly speaking, am I the only one here who's done that ?
The rest of the times (i.e., majority) "d*unk" means "tipsy" for me. Full control of my senses but tipsy nonetheless. I thought it was very common. Doubt anyone could force him or herself on a tipsy person and isn't having fun while tipsy normal at parties? Seems so from where I'm standing. Otherwise we should all carry "legal fuck forms" in our purses / pockets when going out LOL |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's interesting the subject of d*unken consent.
It's not unknown for a woman to be d*unk and consequently non conscenting. Has a man ever made such a claim? I lost my virginity to an older woman while we were both d*unk. Who "raped" who that night I wonder? |
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