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"I pretty much see it as the guy would be the one reading any messages I send. If I've met her before then I message, if not it's more or less how much of "can't be bothered" I am." Not necessarily true. Not in our case anyway. We both have access to the messages and account Kinky | |||
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"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky "It is not a question of the sub or slave being repressed, it is the technical or practical point of third person consent. Technically a marriage is of equals in consent;a sub/slave master/dom is a relationship (in my view) is where the sub permits the master to make decisions on her behalf, technically not an equal relationship. A caring dom/master would know his subs limits and unless she is in voluntary training not require her to do what she does not want to do or he feels she would not enjoy or be a learning experience. However this is only my view, there is no true way and it's different strokes for different folks.  | |||
"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky
It is not a question of the sub or slave being repressed, it is the technical or practical point of third person consent. Technically a marriage is of equals in consent;a sub/slave master/dom is a relationship (in my view) is where the sub permits the master to make decisions on her behalf, technically not an equal relationship. A caring dom/master would know his subs limits and unless she is in voluntary training not require her to do what she does not want to do or he feels she would not enjoy or be a learning experience.
However this is only my view, there is no true way and it's different strokes for different folks. "Just to clarify on regard to equality. The sub/slave is equal worth as a person and right to self determination, she/ he however voluntary hands over the self determination in agreed circumstances whilst the relationship is right. But everyone handles their relationships differently. | |||
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"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky
It is not a question of the sub or slave being repressed, it is the technical or practical point of third person consent. Technically a marriage is of equals in consent;a sub/slave master/dom is a relationship (in my view) is where the sub permits the master to make decisions on her behalf, technically not an equal relationship. A caring dom/master would know his subs limits and unless she is in voluntary training not require her to do what she does not want to do or he feels she would not enjoy or be a learning experience.
However this is only my view, there is no true way and it's different strokes for different folks.
Just to clarify on regard to equality. The sub/slave is equal worth as a person and right to self determination, she/ he however voluntary hands over the self determination in agreed circumstances whilst the relationship is right.
But everyone handles their relationships differently."Totally agree  | |||
"2 examples I've had 1. On way to meet. 'By the way master will be listening on the phone' 2. I can meet you but I'll be wearing sirs' collar Noooooooooo" Not sure why the second one would be a problem to you ? | |||
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"If I read 'I'm owned and you'll have to ask person x to meet me' I stop reading - whilst being owned is fine I draw the line at writing begging messages to other guys!" Yep, I am with you totaly on that one mate. I'm not interested in facilitating someone else's power kicks. | |||
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"2 examples I've had 1. On way to meet. 'By the way master will be listening on the phone' 2. I can meet you but I'll be wearing sirs' collar Noooooooooo" Vik has worn my collar now for 10 years next month. She wears in 24/7 and so she would be wearing it if you met her. Yet she is allowed to go and meet guys on her own. I don't read all the messages. I just expect to be informed of plans and have veto right. That said she has veto right of who meet too as we generally swing as equals. The D/s element is only when we are together. She also has 'owned' tattooed down her spine. Seems most guys don't seem to have a problem with this when she has her mouth around their cock lol -Matt | |||
"we stopped playing with a friend when she became collared because i don't ask anyone else for permission to play with my friend...if she wants to submit to him that's her decision but I won't be dommed by proxy..." Interesting. The plot thickens...  | |||
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"I met a young guy few months ago and about a week later he told me he was meeting 2 lassies from here and that he was going to be "owned" by them, i asked him what it all meant and he said i would need to go through them if i wanted to meet him again.. my reply to him was "haha good luck" he recently got in touch asking to meet and i asked him if he was still owned and he said no as the women his owners were making him meet were not his type "Abuse comes in many forms, at least if the play is consenting it's no abuse. Things tend to be agreed, wish I had had that agreement in my first marriage.  | |||
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"we stopped playing with a friend when she became collared because i don't ask anyone else for permission to play with my friend...if she wants to submit to him that's her decision but I won't be dommed by proxy..." That is an interesting interpretation of the situation but it isn't you who is being 'dommed' by proxy or otherwise. You are simply gaining consent and she has agreed with her Dom that he makes that decision. It's part of the dynamic but I understand if that isn't for you. | |||
"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky "Really !!!  | |||
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"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky
Really !!! "Happens, people do enjoy themselves, it's not illegal yet.... | |||
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"2 examples I've had 1. On way to meet. 'By the way master will be listening on the phone' 2. I can meet you but I'll be wearing sirs' collar Noooooooooo Vik has worn my collar now for 10 years next month. She wears in 24/7 and so she would be wearing it if you met her. Yet she is allowed to go and meet guys on her own. I don't read all the messages. I just expect to be informed of plans and have veto right. That said she has veto right of who meet too as we generally swing as equals. The D/s element is only when we are together. She also has 'owned' tattooed down her spine. Seems most guys don't seem to have a problem with this when she has her mouth around their cock lol -Matt" This | |||
"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky
Really !!! "Yes, really | |||
"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky
Really !!!
Happens, people do enjoy themselves, it's not illegal yet...."I love the relationship that I have with my man. Doesn't mean because he's my master and I'm submissive to him that he's got no respect for me Kinky | |||
" Each to their own We say Who are we to judge anyone, but very interesting to read it all "That is why life is so brilliant, gorgeous, stunning and a mass of superlatives I won't take up cyber space, which is possibly infinite | |||
" Each to their own We say Who are we to judge anyone, but very interesting to read it all
That is why life is so brilliant, gorgeous, stunning and a mass of superlatives I won't take up cyber space, which is possibly infinite "Very true | |||
"we stopped playing with a friend when she became collared because i don't ask anyone else for permission to play with my friend...if she wants to submit to him that's her decision but I won't be dommed by proxy... That is an interesting interpretation of the situation but it isn't you who is being 'dommed' by proxy or otherwise. You are simply gaining consent and she has agreed with her Dom that he makes that decision. It's part of the dynamic but I understand if that isn't for you." Nope. it's exactly that. someone with whom I do not have that dynamic requires that I ask their permission to play with a friend I knew and played with prior to their involvement. if that isn't someone trying to assert some kind of imagined authority over me that I haven't agreed to, then I don't know what is. | |||
"we stopped playing with a friend when she became collared because i don't ask anyone else for permission to play with my friend...if she wants to submit to him that's her decision but I won't be dommed by proxy... That is an interesting interpretation of the situation but it isn't you who is being 'dommed' by proxy or otherwise. You are simply gaining consent and she has agreed with her Dom that he makes that decision. It's part of the dynamic but I understand if that isn't for you. Nope. it's exactly that. someone with whom I do not have that dynamic requires that I ask their permission to play with a friend I knew and played with prior to their involvement. if that isn't someone trying to assert some kind of imagined authority over me that I haven't agreed to, then I don't know what is. " do you discuss you play partners? | |||
"we stopped playing with a friend when she became collared because i don't ask anyone else for permission to play with my friend...if she wants to submit to him that's her decision but I won't be dommed by proxy... That is an interesting interpretation of the situation but it isn't you who is being 'dommed' by proxy or otherwise. You are simply gaining consent and she has agreed with her Dom that he makes that decision. It's part of the dynamic but I understand if that isn't for you. Nope. it's exactly that. someone with whom I do not have that dynamic requires that I ask their permission to play with a friend I knew and played with prior to their involvement. if that isn't someone trying to assert some kind of imagined authority over me that I haven't agreed to, then I don't know what is. do you discuss you play partners?" Not entirely sure what you're asking? | |||
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"I met a young guy few months ago and about a week later he told me he was meeting 2 lassies from here and that he was going to be "owned" by them, i asked him what it all meant and he said i would need to go through them if i wanted to meet him again.. my reply to him was "haha good luck" he recently got in touch asking to meet and i asked him if he was still owned and he said no as the women his owners were making him meet were not his type
Abuse comes in many forms, at least if the play is consenting it's no abuse.
Things tend to be agreed, wish I had had that agreement in my first marriage."Where did i mention abuse?? | |||
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"we stopped playing with a friend when she became collared because i don't ask anyone else for permission to play with my friend...if she wants to submit to him that's her decision but I won't be dommed by proxy... That is an interesting interpretation of the situation but it isn't you who is being 'dommed' by proxy or otherwise. You are simply gaining consent and she has agreed with her Dom that he makes that decision. It's part of the dynamic but I understand if that isn't for you. Nope. it's exactly that. someone with whom I do not have that dynamic requires that I ask their permission to play with a friend I knew and played with prior to their involvement. if that isn't someone trying to assert some kind of imagined authority over me that I haven't agreed to, then I don't know what is. do you discuss you play partners? Not entirely sure what you're asking?" To me, and it is me, semantics get in the way of a lot of these discussions. If you are playing as a pair, surely there is the discussion is it tight for all parties so why did a Dom sub dynamic. I suspect most acertive want the other to explore their sexuality, in a healthy way. I don't think closed minds equates to healthy in my book. | |||
"See what I mean Way too complicated " It's not always. Not all master/slave or D/s relationships are the same. We equally read and respond to messages and don't expect others to be involved in the D/s aspect of our relationship. That's between us. Been an interesting thread to read, some good comments. Sarah | |||
"See what I mean Way too complicated It's not always. Not all master/slave or D/s relationships are the same. We equally read and respond to messages and don't expect others to be involved in the D/s aspect of our relationship. That's between us. Been an interesting thread to read, some good comments. Sarah " | |||
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"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?" I'm sorry fella but you do realise that the woman you seem to think need help are in fact having there deep needs met not only sexuality but psychologically also by the arrangement they have entered into freely . If you ignorant of the dynamic please don't make assumption about the mental health of those involved its that kind of ignorance that alienate those into kink and makes them less likely to share thought processes or reason for choosing the dynamic they need to fill sexually fulfilled . | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?" no different to a gangbang or having an mmf, and noone complains about that here. Not many in this world have explored BDSM, or know enough about what it entails therefore a lot of assumptions are made. i am collared and owned, by my Dom. Our agreement pleases both of us. Its consensual, it was discussed and agreed upon. Any relationship dynamic is based on trust, especially that of an ongoing D/s dynamic. Any its as varied and as diverse as any unique coupling. In any relationship there are hard limits and a lot of communication and effort to know each other is involved. So is respect and so is safe, sane and consensual. i am not a nut job and i do not require a psychiatrist. my dynamic is not abusive and i d not have low salf esteem issues. as for the begging letter to a Dom. no you dont need to beg, you just have to show you care and consider the woman he consideres his responsibility. its not a competition, the woman has already agreed her terms. she wants you to ask him out of respect for their relationship, just like you would with any couple you wanted to play with. some D/s relationships extend into vanilla life and some dont. they are not all the same. if you dont know ask..you'd be respected for asking and if that's too much 'hassle' well then thats up to you.it says nothing about them. x | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?" Maybe the woman in question were consensual and they had set out rules prior. Don't make assumptions | |||
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"I agree owned equals no playing "its ok, we get plenty of men, women and couples eager to explore out dynamic in clubs..each to their own(ed) hehe
ands i don't need permission to meet with men, women or couples in the swinging scene, my agreement only limits BDSM play and that is in full consensual agreement with me, i don't want to sub, for anyone else without his permission, he has agreed to look after me, he'd be slacking in his role if he let any 'dim dumb dom' play with me and hed worry about me all the time. so i don't put him through it. he'd only want a chat about their expertise and experience, but if that's too much hassle..that's fine by me x | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?" I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. | |||
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"Another angle A single lady who is 'owned' Isn't that a contradiction? Surely it's a couple who can play separately if 'sir' allows?" depends on the agreement..i have other lovers.no issue, so does he, no issue...what we keep exclusive is hes my only Dom and i'm his only sub...but thats my dynamic, what we both agreed to, not anyone elses partnership. | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. " So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave. | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave." groomed?..do you think all subs are dim witted or something? | |||
"Personally I avoid them If I see 'owned' I don't even look any further Way too much like hard work Thoughts? And yes I know Each to their own If it works for you ? happy days " . If your not bothered why start a thread off .... | |||
"Ha ha I class myself as being owned and I also have a master but trust me when I say I'm not repressed in a negative way. I'm thoroughly enjoying my journey Kinky
Really !!!
Happens, people do enjoy themselves, it's not illegal yet....
I love the relationship that I have with my man. Doesn't mean because he's my master and I'm submissive to him that he's got no respect for me
Kinky " | |||
"Another angle A single lady who is 'owned' Isn't that a contradiction? Surely it's a couple who can play separately if 'sir' allows?" Men can be "owned" too. | |||
"I agree owned equals no playing its ok, we get plenty of men, women and couples eager to explore out dynamic in clubs..each to their own(ed) hehe
ands i don't need permission to meet with men, women or couples in the swinging scene, my agreement only limits BDSM play and that is in full consensual agreement with me, i don't want to sub, for anyone else without his permission, he has agreed to look after me, he'd be slacking in his role if he let any 'dim dumb dom' play with me and hed worry about me all the time. so i don't put him through it. he'd only want a chat about their expertise and experience, but if that's too much hassle..that's fine by me x" | |||
"Another angle A single lady who is 'owned' Isn't that a contradiction? Surely it's a couple who can play separately if 'sir' allows? Men can be "owned" too. " true | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?no different to a gangbang or having an mmf, and noone complains about that here. Not many in this world have explored BDSM, or know enough about what it entails therefore a lot of assumptions are made. i am collared and owned, by my Dom. Our agreement pleases both of us. Its consensual, it was discussed and agreed upon. Any relationship dynamic is based on trust, especially that of an ongoing D/s dynamic. Any its as varied and as diverse as any unique coupling. In any relationship there are hard limits and a lot of communication and effort to know each other is involved. So is respect and so is safe, sane and consensual. i am not a nut job and i do not require a psychiatrist. my dynamic is not abusive and i d not have low salf esteem issues. as for the begging letter to a Dom. no you dont need to beg, you just have to show you care and consider the woman he consideres his responsibility. its not a competition, the woman has already agreed her terms. she wants you to ask him out of respect for their relationship, just like you would with any couple you wanted to play with. some D/s relationships extend into vanilla life and some dont. they are not all the same. if you dont know ask..you'd be respected for asking and if that's too much 'hassle' well then thats up to you.it says nothing about them. x " I'm involved with a Dom - totally agree with what you say - respect and trust are the key to a d/s relationship. | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?" I stopped reading at this point as I just had to answer. Both of these would be the best birthday present flipping ever. Seriously. Best. Ever. Now, I might be a bit of a fruitcake, I'm certainly a tad eccentric but I can assure you good sir, that I am 100% mental health issues free. I'm bossy, liberated, well-educated, extremely articulate and very, very certain of what I want and how I want it and that....that is how I want it. My other half is hoping to organise something like that for me, and I am going to have the best time ever! But yes, section me because I don't conform to your narrow view of normalcy. You know they did that to women in Victorian times, right? Ignorant, small-minded comments like this make my blood absolutely boil. Please, prove me wrong. Prove that I'm some dim-witted, little doormat with cotton wool where my brain cells should be. Prove that I have a screw loose and need taking in for my own protection. I'd have you up and down the courts system so fast in a civil suit you could barely say 'taken to the cleaners'. Eejit. *stomps off muttering about idiotic 'nillas* | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave." How is that scenario linked to the suffragettes? It's no different to an organised gang bang is it? I'm sure there were safe words to be used if needed or wanted. | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave." Wow, the fact that someones perversion /kink is different to yours and you instantly think it's abusive and she's been groomed, that's pretty arrogant to assume that you're right and another, fully consenting, adult is wrong. Also I see on your profile you list cuckolding as an interest, surely then you should either seek help or report yourself to the police if your being cuckolded because according to you anything similar is abuse . | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave.groomed?..do you think all subs are dim witted or something?" No I dont, but do you think they are all fully compliant then? | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?no different to a gangbang or having an mmf, and noone complains about that here. Not many in this world have explored BDSM, or know enough about what it entails therefore a lot of assumptions are made. i am collared and owned, by my Dom. Our agreement pleases both of us. Its consensual, it was discussed and agreed upon. Any relationship dynamic is based on trust, especially that of an ongoing D/s dynamic. Any its as varied and as diverse as any unique coupling. In any relationship there are hard limits and a lot of communication and effort to know each other is involved. So is respect and so is safe, sane and consensual. i am not a nut job and i do not require a psychiatrist. my dynamic is not abusive and i d not have low salf esteem issues. as for the begging letter to a Dom. no you dont need to beg, you just have to show you care and consider the woman he consideres his responsibility. its not a competition, the woman has already agreed her terms. she wants you to ask him out of respect for their relationship, just like you would with any couple you wanted to play with. some D/s relationships extend into vanilla life and some dont. they are not all the same. if you dont know ask..you'd be respected for asking and if that's too much 'hassle' well then thats up to you.it says nothing about them. x I'm involved with a Dom - totally agree with what you say - respect and trust are the key to a d/s relationship. " respect and trust are key to any relationship... | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave." Emmeline... | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave. Emmeline..." | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave.groomed?..do you think all subs are dim witted or something? No I dont, but do you think they are all fully compliant then?" sweet a lot goes on behind the scenes in a D/s relationship..communication, communication, communication is a key component, what someone hears of, or sees when they see a D/s dynamic in action..is not only hours of discussion, but the presenting face of a trusted, bonded, connected partnership. (using he as Dom and she as sub here) he makes it his job to know her limits, her fantasies, her emotional and mental states and any changes in such, and its his primary consideration that the trust between them is not broken. for the sub she knows the Dom, his strengths, his care, and his attention to detail and his concern for her welfare. an onlooker seeing a scene doesn't see all that, sometimes they can feel it, but more often than not if they've never experienced BDSM play they cannot possibly comprehend what they get out of it.that's ok. they don't know, but i can assure you that experienced D/s partnerships form a deep bond of trust and exceptional levels of focus on each other, to share mutual, consenting levels, of sensual and sexual pleasure x | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave.groomed?..do you think all subs are dim witted or something? No I dont, but do you think they are all fully compliant then?sweet a lot goes on behind the scenes in a D/s relationship..communication, communication, communication is a key component, what someone hears of, or sees when they see a D/s dynamic in action..is not only hours of discussion, but the presenting face of a trusted, bonded, connected partnership. (using he as Dom and she as sub here) he makes it his job to know her limits, her fantasies, her emotional and mental states and any changes in such, and its his primary consideration that the trust between them is not broken. for the sub she knows the Dom, his strengths, his care, and his attention to detail and his concern for her welfare. an onlooker seeing a scene doesn't see all that, sometimes they can feel it, but more often than not if they've never experienced BDSM play they cannot possibly comprehend what they get out of it.that's ok. they don't know, but i can assure you that experienced D/s partnerships form a deep bond of trust and exceptional levels of focus on each other, to share mutual, consenting levels, of sensual and sexual pleasure x" Are you saying each unto their own? | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently? I have a friend who was involved in a similar scenario to the first one, her Dom took her to a guy's flat pretty much as described, and she, by her own words, was used and fucked for hours. She didn't feel abused or mis treated in the slightest. It was a fantasy that she wanted to experience and she trusted her Dom to look out for her, and she loved every minute of it. She was telling me all about it for weeks after, and its something she has repeated a couple of times since to equal success and enjoyment with out any negative issues at all because of the faith / bond she has with her Dom, that nothing bad or abusive will happen to her. Apparently sge said they all sat around after having a cuppa, some chocky biscuits having a laugh. So she wasn't groomed in anyway then. I reckon Emily Pankhurst must be spinning in her grave.groomed?..do you think all subs are dim witted or something? No I dont, but do you think they are all fully compliant then?sweet a lot goes on behind the scenes in a D/s relationship..communication, communication, communication is a key component, what someone hears of, or sees when they see a D/s dynamic in action..is not only hours of discussion, but the presenting face of a trusted, bonded, connected partnership. (using he as Dom and she as sub here) he makes it his job to know her limits, her fantasies, her emotional and mental states and any changes in such, and its his primary consideration that the trust between them is not broken. for the sub she knows the Dom, his strengths, his care, and his attention to detail and his concern for her welfare. an onlooker seeing a scene doesn't see all that, sometimes they can feel it, but more often than not if they've never experienced BDSM play they cannot possibly comprehend what they get out of it.that's ok. they don't know, but i can assure you that experienced D/s partnerships form a deep bond of trust and exceptional levels of focus on each other, to share mutual, consenting levels, of sensual and sexual pleasure x Are you saying each unto their own?" not sure what you mean by that question..can you explain what you are asking? | |||
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"To my mind you can't be a 'single' person If you have a master/Dom/sir If I message a single lady I want to talk to her Not her and what she wants her Dom to do A massive list of dos and donts will follow " assumption. i have a single and a couple profile and the answer is, don't then..simple, no one is forcing you too and, i am single. | |||
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"For myself I do not tend to play with a girl if she is owned unless every one is happy with it just some times i find some doms a little to much to deal with either trying to control you as your having fun or only want things their way or not at all Yes I would class myself as Dom but I do have a soft playful side as well and want every one to enjoy what's going on not have a mindless girl on a leash so to speak also that way if she's been cheeky I get to punish her lol" And there's the "everyone's different" in all its glory. I'm owned, and no one including my Dom gets to punish me!! For being cheeky?? How disrespectful to the lady. You have a very stereotypical way of thinking of a Dom. Some are, a lot arent. As for the ones criticising subs for being abused and not realising it..... sigh. Some people not into swinging would think everyone on here filthy perverts. Just because You'd abuse a woman in that scenario doesn't mean others would. I would enjoy the scenarios listed as being abusive - provided they'd been arranged by my Dom and he was in charge. I could relax and know he'd be looking after me! | |||
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"Sex is fun right ? "not all sex, some sex is crap | |||
"Sex is fun right ? not all sex, some sex is crap "The sex where you are both performing to make a third party(Dom) happy? Yeah That's crap | |||
"Sex is fun right ? not all sex, some sex is crap "The sex where you are both performing to make a third party(Dom) happy? Yeah That's crap | |||
"Sex is fun right ? not all sex, some sex is crap
The sex where you are both performing to make a third party(Dom) happy?
Yeah
That's crap "no he protects me from ever having to have crap sex again.. | |||
Then a few weeks later there unowned | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned "at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time? | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?"I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission "good.. then its no problem then, is it? | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?"Not at all. | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. "how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later? | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?"nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man... | |||
"To my mind you can't be a 'single' person If you have a master/Dom/sir If I message a single lady I want to talk to her Not her and what she wants her Dom to do A massive list of dos and donts will follow " Fella why are you hung up on it if its not for you jog on by there are plenty of un owned woman on here after all. Respect there choice there dynamic and move on because you obviously have no interest in understanding the dynamic you seem to feel is ruining your chances of possible meets going off of your own words in posts on here . Which of coarse it isn't because at the end of the day there are plenty more fish in the sea as the saying goes so why are you worrying about those you have no wish to play with as you don't wish to . | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man..."if she aske#s you to ask her partner in this case Dom, you wouldnt? | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...if she aske#s you to ask her partner in this case Dom, you wouldnt?"absolutely not... | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...if she aske#s you to ask her partner in this case Dom, you wouldnt?
absolutely not..."then you have no respect for the dynamic, and you dont play..simple... | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later?"How long does it take for a couple to build up that kind of relationship. Trust wouldn't happen over night | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later?
How long does it take for a couple to build up that kind of relationship. Trust wouldn't happen over night "i agree. it takes time, but they are still a couple... | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later?
How long does it take for a couple to build up that kind of relationship. Trust wouldn't happen over night i agree. it takes time, but they are still a couple..."And you are a single person? | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later?
How long does it take for a couple to build up that kind of relationship. Trust wouldn't happen over night i agree. it takes time, but they are still a couple...
And you are a single person? "yep.. i have an agreement with bdsm only... | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later?
How long does it take for a couple to build up that kind of relationship. Trust wouldn't happen over night i agree. it takes time, but they are still a couple...
And you are a single person? yep.. i have an agreement with bdsm only..."I'll stick with my original mindset | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
I have no problems asking a long term couple for permission good.. then its no problem then, is it?
Not at all. how long do you consider someones a couple..when they decide they are, or weeks. months or years later?
How long does it take for a couple to build up that kind of relationship. Trust wouldn't happen over night i agree. it takes time, but they are still a couple...
And you are a single person? yep.. i have an agreement with bdsm only...
I'll stick with my original mindset "no worries x | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man..."Hand on she has given consent but to another to fulfill her needs freeing her of the hassle of finding ways of having her needs met . Dear god its really simple let me give you a simple example . Julie likes to be D by Paul but part of her sexual make up means she also likes to play the dirty little cock craving slut for herself and her D . So Paul takes over organizing Julies needs so he now organizes gang bangs for her as a reward for her being his very good little s . This ensures Julie's safety at gang bangs and insures her need to be a slut for her D are met to which means Paul can use this knowledge and the fact he takes on the rule of her protectorate as well as D to make sure his needs as her D are met by her to . | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...
Hand on she has given consent but to another to fulfill her needs freeing her of the hassle of finding ways of having her needs met .
Dear god its really simple let me give you a simple example .
Julie likes to be D by Paul but part of her sexual make up means she also likes to play the dirty little cock craving slut for herself and her D .
So Paul takes over organizing Julies needs so he now organizes gang bangs for her as a reward for her being his very good little s .
This ensures Julie's safety at gang bangs and insures her need to be a slut for her D are met to which means Paul can use this knowledge and the fact he takes on the rule of her protectorate as well as D to make sure his needs as her D are met by her to . "Pauly D was my favourite in Jersey Shore. CAAABS ARE HEEERE!! (Vinnie was close second) | |||
"The thought of being owned turns me on" Me too. | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...
Hand on she has given consent but to another to fulfill her needs freeing her of the hassle of finding ways of having her needs met .
Dear god its really simple let me give you a simple example .
Julie likes to be D by Paul but part of her sexual make up means she also likes to play the dirty little cock craving slut for herself and her D .
So Paul takes over organizing Julies needs so he now organizes gang bangs for her as a reward for her being his very good little s .
This ensures Julie's safety at gang bangs and insures her need to be a slut for her D are met to which means Paul can use this knowledge and the fact he takes on the rule of her protectorate as well as D to make sure his needs as her D are met by her to .
Pauly D was my favourite in Jersey Shore.
CAAABS ARE HEEERE!!
(Vinnie was close second)"D is for Dom on this occasion | |||
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"Yeah, I like the d/'s thing in the bedroom, but I find it a tad extreme when they live the life 24/7 so the "I'm owned" thing doesn't really appeal to me. " assumption that every owned woman is in a 24/7 lifestyle relationship..its as diverse as the dynamics and their circumstances..its what works for them.. a great deal of effort goes into an agreement that they can keep, that keeps the dynamic alive for bothg of them. some do just play on the scene, or in the bedroom..its suits some and not others..i cant build trust that way, some dont need it...they let anyone and everyone top or bottom them, thats not for me, but im not everyone x | |||
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"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...if she aske#s you to ask her partner in this case Dom, you wouldnt?
absolutely not...then you have no respect for the dynamic, and you dont play..simple..."youre missing my point, i dont wish to...I understand the dynamic. I respect that this is the choice of some people but I have no wish to enter into it purely because I will not ask anyone permission to play with anyone else...that person does not have that dynamic with me and I owe them nothing within it. I've remained good friends with my friend who is collared by someone else but I will never play with her again no matter how much she wants to because I won't ask a man I don't know for his permission...it's really not that hard to understand... | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...
Hand on she has given consent but to another to fulfill her needs freeing her of the hassle of finding ways of having her needs met .
Dear god its really simple let me give you a simple example .
Julie likes to be D by Paul but part of her sexual make up means she also likes to play the dirty little cock craving slut for herself and her D .
So Paul takes over organizing Julies needs so he now organizes gang bangs for her as a reward for her being his very good little s .
This ensures Julie's safety at gang bangs and insures her need to be a slut for her D are met to which means Paul can use this knowledge and the fact he takes on the rule of her protectorate as well as D to make sure his needs as her D are met by her to . "youre going to have to use smaller words and bigger spaces... | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...if she aske#s you to ask her partner in this case Dom, you wouldnt?
absolutely not...then you have no respect for the dynamic, and you dont play..simple...
youre missing my point, i dont wish to...I understand the dynamic. I respect that this is the choice of some people but I have no wish to enter into it purely because I will not ask anyone permission to play with anyone else...that person does not have that dynamic with me and I owe them nothing within it. I've remained good friends with my friend who is collared by someone else but I will never play with her again no matter how much she wants to because I won't ask a man I don't know for his permission...it's really not that hard to understand..."then dont..thanks for making it clear. | |||
"The best ones are who you have met before but now there owned and you have to ask someone else if you can meet them
Then a few weeks later there unowned at least they were loyal for the time they were together, some people like this trait in people...and you lot are so hung up on asking another man if you can play with his womanj..dont you do this anyway, or do you need to be the big man all the time?
nope, I ask her...the consenting adult...we discuss with both...and I'm not a man...if she aske#s you to ask her partner in this case Dom, you wouldnt?
absolutely not...then you have no respect for the dynamic, and you dont play..simple...
youre missing my point, i dont wish to...I understand the dynamic. I respect that this is the choice of some people but I have no wish to enter into it purely because I will not ask anyone permission to play with anyone else...that person does not have that dynamic with me and I owe them nothing within it. I've remained good friends with my friend who is collared by someone else but I will never play with her again no matter how much she wants to because I won't ask a man I don't know for his permission...it's really not that hard to understand..."Leaving out the stentorian overtones, this. I would not be interested in approaching or being approached by anyone who has a dom,master or owned (special circumstances excepted). It is about control, and once you badge your relationship as d/S or something similar you are saying you are controlled, I accept the reality may be different, but it is not a headspace I want to enter. It is not a question of disrespect. If I had a principle that I don't play with married women and I was approached by a married woman to play who had her husband's consent, I am not disrespecting her or her husband if I say not my thing and will wait to right the circumstances that are right for me. It is that famous fab word "preference". | |||
" Leaving out the stentorian overtones, this. I would not be interested in approaching or being approached by anyone who has a dom,master or owned (special circumstances excepted). It is about control, and once you badge your relationship as d/S or something similar you are saying you are controlled, I accept the reality may be different, but it is not a headspace I want to enter. It is not a question of disrespect. If I had a principle that I don't play with married women and I was approached by a married woman to play who had her husband's consent, I am not disrespecting her or her husband if I say not my thing and will wait to right the circumstances that are right for me. It is that famous fab word "preference"." Total agree with this, just as it is the D/s preference in their dynamic. It's all about respect. | |||
"Never understood the I'm owned by so and so concept wether it be man or woman if your not in a relationship as a couple then surely your free to do what u want when I want and if your owned does that mean your owner can do who he likes when he likes and u can only do who he says it's a bit hypocritical to me but that might just be me " Oh the power! I totally agree x | |||
" Leaving out the stentorian overtones, this. I would not be interested in approaching or being approached by anyone who has a dom,master or owned (special circumstances excepted). It is about control, and once you badge your relationship as d/S or something similar you are saying you are controlled, I accept the reality may be different, but it is not a headspace I want to enter. It is not a question of disrespect. If I had a principle that I don't play with married women and I was approached by a married woman to play who had her husband's consent, I am not disrespecting her or her husband if I say not my thing and will wait to right the circumstances that are right for me. It is that famous fab word "preference". Total agree with this, just as it is the D/s preference in their dynamic. It's all about respect. " | |||
"Never understood the I'm owned by so and so concept wether it be man or woman if your not in a relationship as a couple then surely your free to do what u want when I want and if your owned does that mean your owner can do who he likes when he likes and u can only do who he says it's a bit hypocritical to me but that might just be me Oh the power! I totally agree x" love total power exchange dynamic..for me its awesome.. | |||
"2 examples I've had 1. On way to meet. 'By the way master will be listening on the phone' 2. I can meet you but I'll be wearing sirs' collar Noooooooooo Not sure why the second one would be a problem to you ?" Or the first.....sounds more like a chuck than a Dom.....and I love playing with cuckold couples.... | |||
"Never understood the I'm owned by so and so concept wether it be man or woman if your not in a relationship as a couple then surely your free to do what u want when I want and if your owned does that mean your owner can do who he likes when he likes and u can only do who he says it's a bit hypocritical to me but that might just be me Oh the power! I totally agree x" Me, I'd never tell a mechanic how to mend a car, or a brain surgeon how to do their job, I don't know enough to do that, me telling them that, without knowledge would be hypocritical in my eyes. I think some times the generalising of porn does not help the understanding of kinks.  | |||
"Never understood the I'm owned by so and so concept wether it be man or woman if your not in a relationship as a couple then surely your free to do what u want when I want and if your owned does that mean your owner can do who he likes when he likes and u can only do who he says it's a bit hypocritical to me but that might just be me " No. It means you decide together what is acceptable to you both. Being owned does not mean that the Dom/me makes all the decisions (unless that is what is agreed of course). | |||
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"It's all very complicated, probably why I failed miserably at it lol" no one fails sweet, you succeed or learn x not every pairing works, chemistry and compatibility are needed, same with any other relationship..ive had several, who haven't worked out for various reasons, i learned more each time about myself and what i required..its a journey for both parties..don't think i don't stretch the Dom's capabilities sometimes, cos i do..its a journey for him, too x | |||
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"To my mind you can't be a 'single' person If you have a master/Dom/sir If I message a single lady I want to talk to her Not her and what she wants her Dom to do A massive list of dos and donts will follow " "Single" on this site merely means "plays separately". I have several partners, but I don't play with them all the time, so therefore I'm "single" for the purposes of this site. | |||
"To my mind you can't be a 'single' person If you have a master/Dom/sir If I message a single lady I want to talk to her Not her and what she wants her Dom to do A massive list of dos and donts will follow "Single" on this site merely means "plays separately". I have several partners, but I don't play with them all the time, so therefore I'm "single" for the purposes of this site." Thank you for being right No place here for opinion | |||
"To my mind you can't be a 'single' person If you have a master/Dom/sir If I message a single lady I want to talk to her Not her and what she wants her Dom to do A massive list of dos and donts will follow "Single" on this site merely means "plays separately". I have several partners, but I don't play with them all the time, so therefore I'm "single" for the purposes of this site. Thank you for being right No place here for opinion " Not really, both my partner and I are single on this site but we have certain rules, especially for me. They're hardly draconic. I've come across 'nilla couples that have a lot of rules for when one plays separately, and D/s couples that have a couple, like us. It just seems like you've maybe had some bad experiences and decided that all 'owned' women somehow come with baggage. We don't. Maybe your selection process is a little out of whack. I don't know. | |||
"I have a very good friend who is "owned"..... known her for several years....never been a problem. And yes we have had fun.... as I have with her daughter...." | |||
"I have a very good friend who is "owned"..... known her for several years....never been a problem. And yes we have had fun.... as I have with her daughter.... "You thought it too? | |||
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"No fucker is owned it's only a game I'm away to throw the dice to see who is going to have the misses next " so the dice is your Dom then? it makes the decisions for you, must consult the dice....and life is a total game, doesnt mean its not real x | |||
"I'm owned I have the tattoo to prove it ! "thats awesome xx | |||
"I find some owned women annoying and I steer clear of the...!message my Dom if you want to meet me in the profile. It's boring childish and not dominant... Ownership is also about self freedom not silly playground antics x" you just dont want to be sub in any situation, i can understand that, that could also be seen as 'playground' antics...from some perceptions though..but no ones forcing you, to do anything you dont want, so all good x | |||
"I'm owned I have the tattoo to prove it ! thats awesome xx "I've got sweets I've got a receipt to prove it | |||
"I find some owned women annoying and I steer clear of the...!message my Dom if you want to meet me in the profile. It's boring childish and not dominant... Ownership is also about self freedom not silly playground antics x" You're the same Dom who, when sub said no I can't do that my mistress wouldn't allow.... then got called out as not a very realistic dom, blocked after well and truly spitting his dummy! Do you think it's due to the owner vetting ... and fear of not matching up?! | |||
"I'm owned I have the tattoo to prove it ! thats awesome xx
I've got sweets
I've got a receipt to prove it "i dont want your sweets though, thats the difference ..sweets i dont find mentally and sexually stimulating, even if haribos made cock rings | |||
"I'm owned I have the tattoo to prove it ! thats awesome xx "Thank you I love it! | |||
"Remember reading two posts on the subject, one in which a woman was taken by her husband, in a collar and lead, to a flat of men so they could do what they wanted with her. The second a woman was blindfolded and tied to a bed then the men from the nearby pub were called over by her "dom" and "allowed" to "have" her. Personally, I think the two women in question should seek psychiatric treatment/help and the men investigated by the police for abuse. Maybe I just see things a little differently?" I don't know about anyone else but I thought both scenarios ( apart from the collar )sounded very horny and we are not into Dom or sub scenarios apart from me being told sexually what to do now and then. If the OH could set it up I would be up for that | |||
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"They have these exact same discussions in the fet world, some Doms don't like the thought of discussing possible play with the submissive's partner. In our agreed dynamic, I am the one who asks permission if there's anyone I'd like to play with. However we both sort of expect that anyone who wants to play with me would have the manners to contact the other person in the relationship. I think the guys who don't want to do that seem to be driven by ego. " Of course there is an element of ego,it is about doing what you want to do to the sub needing only the sub's consent. Where you need the consent of the other dom, you have no "ultimate control". I apologise for the following example and I use it as an example and I do not reduce the sub's importance in any way but is the difference between owning a property and renting a property. When you rent you can have a lenient landlord but anything you do is subject to the landlord's consent. Now I accept that people can split off elements of relationships and arrange them as they want. But in the words of the philosopher Harry Dresden "words have power". Once you put a badge or a name to a situation people respond to it. A fab example is if a man badges himself "bi" see what happens. It creates a circumstance and others respond for a variety of reasons. Therefore I pose two questions. If the sub wants to do something with the new dom but the established dom opposes, who has the say? If the sub, then what differs the D/S relationship from the service top? I know am sad, whilst nightly practising my impact play I ponder these and other questions, such as how many doms do you need to change a light bulb? Answers on a postcard for the older ones and text for the younger. | |||
"They have these exact same discussions in the fet world, some Doms don't like the thought of discussing possible play with the submissive's partner. In our agreed dynamic, I am the one who asks permission if there's anyone I'd like to play with. However we both sort of expect that anyone who wants to play with me would have the manners to contact the other person in the relationship. I think the guys who don't want to do that seem to be driven by ego. Of course there is an element of ego,it is about doing what you want to do to the sub needing only the sub's consent. Where you need the consent of the other dom, you have no "ultimate control". I apologise for the following example and I use it as an example and I do not reduce the sub's importance in any way but is the difference between owning a property and renting a property. When you rent you can have a lenient landlord but anything you do is subject to the landlord's consent. Now I accept that people can split off elements of relationships and arrange them as they want. But in the words of the philosopher Harry Dresden "words have power". Once you put a badge or a name to a situation people respond to it. A fab example is if a man badges himself "bi" see what happens. It creates a circumstance and others respond for a variety of reasons. Therefore I pose two questions. If the sub wants to do something with the new dom but the established dom opposes, who has the say? If the sub, then what differs the D/S relationship from the service top? I know am sad, whilst nightly practising my impact play I ponder these and other questions, such as how many doms do you need to change a light bulb? Answers on a postcard for the older ones and text for the younger."I would answer, exactly the same as if a gentleman wants to do something with a new partner but his existing partner doesn't like it. They discuss, discuss some more and then come to a mutually agreed decision. In the best D/s relationships (and I certainly count my own as one of those) the issue doesn't arise as there is so much mutual trust and respect. My Dom would never try to stop me doing anything with anyone unless there was an extremely good reason, and I wouldn't do anything he wasn't 100% happy with. And he would never do anything I wasn't comfortable with. Which is why it's taken 4 years for him to offer his kink skills to selected other subs, whereas I played with selected other Doms from the start. I'm a very lucky sub
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"They have these exact same discussions in the fet world, some Doms don't like the thought of discussing possible play with the submissive's partner. In our agreed dynamic, I am the one who asks permission if there's anyone I'd like to play with. However we both sort of expect that anyone who wants to play with me would have the manners to contact the other person in the relationship. I think the guys who don't want to do that seem to be driven by ego. Of course there is an element of ego,it is about doing what you want to do to the sub needing only the sub's consent. Where you need the consent of the other dom, you have no "ultimate control". I apologise for the following example and I use it as an example and I do not reduce the sub's importance in any way but is the difference between owning a property and renting a property. When you rent you can have a lenient landlord but anything you do is subject to the landlord's consent. Now I accept that people can split off elements of relationships and arrange them as they want. But in the words of the philosopher Harry Dresden "words have power". Once you put a badge or a name to a situation people respond to it. A fab example is if a man badges himself "bi" see what happens. It creates a circumstance and others respond for a variety of reasons. Therefore I pose two questions. If the sub wants to do something with the new dom but the established dom opposes, who has the say? If the sub, then what differs the D/S relationship from the service top? I know am sad, whilst nightly practising my impact play I ponder these and other questions, such as how many doms do you need to change a light bulb? Answers on a postcard for the older ones and text for the younger.
I would answer, exactly the same as if a gentleman wants to do something with a new partner but his existing partner doesn't like it. They discuss, discuss some more and then come to a mutually agreed decision.
In the best D/s relationships (and I certainly count my own as one of those) the issue doesn't arise as there is so much mutual trust and respect. My Dom would never try to stop me doing anything with anyone unless there was an extremely good reason, and I wouldn't do anything he wasn't 100% happy with.
And he would never do anything I wasn't comfortable with. Which is why it's taken 4 years for him to offer his kink skills to selected other subs, whereas I played with selected other Doms from the start.
I'm a very lucky sub
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"I find some owned women annoying and I steer clear of the...!message my Dom if you want to meet me in the profile. It's boring childish and not dominant... Ownership is also about self freedom not silly playground antics x" That's merely your perception. | |||
"Personally I avoid them If I see 'owned' I don't even look any further Way too much like hard work Thoughts? And yes I know Each to their own If it works for you ? happy days " I avoid men under 5' 10. It is all about using info on a profile as a filter. | |||
"Personally I avoid them If I see 'owned' I don't even look any further Way too much like hard work Thoughts? And yes I know Each to their own If it works for you ? happy days " Again with the judgment, the world isn't yours to control, get over it dude | |||
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"Personally I avoid them If I see 'owned' I don't even look any further Way too much like hard work Thoughts? And yes I know Each to their own If it works for you ? happy days Again with the judgment, the world isn't yours to control, get over it dude " This | |||
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