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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You could flip the coin and ask why do so many beautiful, sexy women use fab when they could pull in the real world.

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By *ommando4Man  over a year ago

South Co. Dublin


"I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?"

Well I'd look right prat walking around naked like this. Probably wouldn't be allowed into most nite clubs or bars...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after "

Hmmm...not quite everyone can pull in the real world sorry. I have friends who can't seem to meet anyone despite them being blessed with good looks and personality. I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You could flip the coin and ask why do so many beautiful, sexy women use fab when they could pull in the real world.

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Oh thanks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As in the outside world there are all different people of all shapes, sizes and needs. The difference here is that its all open. We lable our profile with what we are looking for, who we are looking for and what we are and are not prepared to do. That doesn't happen outside of fab.

There are many women I see on here amd think that they look amazing and shouldn't need to be here.

In the real world how would you kmow who is looking for what? We dont walk around with our profiles on display. I would never walk up to a couple in the and ask if they want to go for a drink but I would on here. It would be interesting to an app that shows what people in the real world are looking for, like augmented reality. I also think that your fantasy person doesn't always have to be the gym toned model with a six pack. Those people looking for someone they wouldn't usually attract come on here as its a place to find them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Believe it or not, some guys are picky. I like using this site because You can get a bit of detail on people and pick and choose who to pursue. I'm not saying I'm in enough demand to be super fussy, but I'm fussy enough to not settle for someone I don't particularly fancy.

This is a good place to get to know a bit about potential partners before deciding whether or not to meet.

But as for why few guys get back to you, I have no idea why that's the case. You have a great profile and pics

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I guess even the fifties like casual no strings sex that you can organise from the comfort of your own mobile phone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We've often said that in the real world some of the guys my wife has played with wouldn't give her a second glance . So why do they want to meet her and have her husband watching ?

I guess because it is what it is .....

No wining and dining , no commitment , and genuine NSA sex with very few limits . In the real world the women are probably looking for more than that , or they may be worse fir wear if they are willing to offer a NSA shag at the end of the night .

It could also be that these guys are looking for a bit of an extra kink , like having fun with another guys wife in front of him .

Anyway , whatever the reasons , we are sure glad there are so many hot hunky guys who like meeting us . Long may it continue

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Believe it or not, some guys are picky. I like using this site because You can get a bit of detail on people and pick and choose who to pursue. I'm not saying I'm in enough demand to be super fussy, but I'm fussy enough to not settle for someone I don't particularly fancy.

This is a good place to get to know a bit about potential partners before deciding whether or not to meet.

But as for why few guys get back to you, I have no idea why that's the case. You have a great profile and pics "

Oh they do...I am talking about friends of mine who are not on fab who don't have success. I have had a lot of success on fab!

I am on here as I am seeking someone who is especially into kink and without being bigheaded have no problem pulling in the real world.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"We've often said that in the real world some of the guys my wife has played with wouldn't give her a second glance . So why do they want to meet her and have her husband watching ?

I guess because it is what it is .....

No wining and dining , no commitment , and genuine NSA sex with very few limits . In the real world the women are probably looking for more than that , or they may be worse fir wear if they are willing to offer a NSA shag at the end of the night .

It could also be that these guys are looking for a bit of an extra kink , like having fun with another guys wife in front of him .

Anyway , whatever the reasons , we are sure glad there are so many hot hunky guys who like meeting us . Long may it continue

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You are right there - kink is what.many people are on here for! And yep I do love the attention from younger fit good looking guys - what lady doesn't?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Thing I've found is that wen you 'pull' in the real world, unless it's a one night stand, feelings will inevitably be encountered by someone and there is always an expectation for the relationship to be 'going somewhere'

I'm happy not being in a relationship. I don't want a relationship. What id like is someone i can have a laugh with as well as be naked with without the expectations of a traditional relationship.

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By *ureTemptationWoman  over a year ago

Off the grid

I can pull more easily here than in real life. It's quicker, I can do it from my sofa and I don't even have to go out.

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By *odareyouMan  over a year ago

not far from iceland,,,,,, tescos is nearer though :-) (near leeds)

I said it on a different thread...I'm thankful for the internet ..without it where would a guy of a certain age (40 plus) go in the real world most of the friends I have are in relationships married kids etc... I've been into city centres and felt completely out of place as the bars and clubs were populated by young folk,

I'd flip the coin and ask why so many young folk are here when they have numerous other avenues .. you know I'd guess it's just that another avenue ..

So why gym fit and good looking folk are here maybe this is a) their avenue or b) one of many avenues

As I said earlier I'm thankful for the internet I'd have hated being a guy of a certain age of the time before

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In the real world, someone might spot them and tell their wives and girlfriends.

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By *ilacWoman  over a year ago

Cheshire


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after

Hmmm...not quite everyone can pull in the real world sorry. I have friends who can't seem to meet anyone despite them being blessed with good looks and personality. I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life! "

Because on here you can have an upfront, brutally honest conversation about what you're into and find someone compatible with your sexual interests. You're less likely to have that same conversation with someone you meet in a pub until you have gotten to know them a bit?

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By *edylogosMan  over a year ago

wolverhampton


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after "

That's spot on

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By *iver2015Woman  over a year ago

middlesbrough

I don't know but I know that from my experience it's those with gym fit bodies that send me messages full of vile abuse when I politely decline them. It's as if I should automatically like them because their bodies are better than mine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life! "

Are you sure you're not projecting here?

Assuming a little too much due to the frustration of not being messaged back. Its especially rich to think that guys cant do better on here if those guys are not replying to you.

Fab is nice because of the specific things u can find here. My Tinder/POF experiences dont make me feel like I am here out of necessity, I meet people on there with far more frequency than I do on here.

One of the reasons for that is, quite frankly, the lopsided gender ratios means lots of women are not realistic. If you see fit/attractive men, they're also going to desire fit and/or attractive women.

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By *ewryswingerMan  over a year ago

newry

Not including myself in the fit or good looking category, but I can't pull in real life or on fab, anybody have another option for me that does not include paying by the hour lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I just find fab more honest, I get uncomfortable with the uncertainty when chatting someone up irl. I know I'm only interested in one thing but don't feel I can just come out and say so to someones face but equally I don't want to mislead anyone. On here it's all up front and can spell out what I'm looking for so everyone knows where they stand.

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By *etter the devil you knowWoman  over a year ago

Lyndhurst

some are married so they have to be careful, they just want sex, they dont want to have to get to know someone first. They might be a bit shy and if they have been with the same partner for a while they may not be used to meeting other women for sex, if their partners have lost interest in sex they may think they arent very desirable to other women even if they look good.

They know that a lot of the women on here like lots of sex and differnt types of sex.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can pull just as easily in real life as I do on here, only problem is in real life I can't see what the guys penis looks like before deciding if I want to speak with him.

I only speak to handsome fit guys, I'm gonna have to ask them the reasons they're on here and collate all the information.

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By *rKinkedKuntMan  over a year ago

Sheffield


"I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?"

Because 95% of them are fakes and the women wonder why said adonis doesn't show up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


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I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life!

Are you sure you're not projecting here?

Assuming a little too much due to the frustration of not being messaged back. Its especially rich to think that guys cant do better on here if those guys are not replying to you.

Er...I have actually had a lot of success on fab thanks!

Fab is nice because of the specific things u can find here. My Tinder/POF experiences dont make me feel like I am here out of necessity, I meet people on there with far more frequency than I do on here.

One of the reasons for that is, quite frankly, the lopsided gender ratios means lots of women are not realistic. If you see fit/attractive men, they're also going to desire fit and/or attractive women."

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


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I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life!

Are you sure you're not projecting here?

Assuming a little too much due to the frustration of not being messaged back. Its especially rich to think that guys cant do better on here if those guys are not replying to you.

Er...I have actually had a lot of success on fab thanks!

Fab is nice because of the specific things u can find here. My Tinder/POF experiences dont make me feel like I am here out of necessity, I meet people on there with far more frequency than I do on here.

One of the reasons for that is, quite frankly, the lopsided gender ratios means lots of women are not realistic. If you see fit/attractive men, they're also going to desire fit and/or attractive women."

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Sorry I reread my original post and what actually I meant was that the guys didn't get back to me when I asked.what.made them join fab given their great physique etc!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Loving this thread....step up, step up FIT muscular guys and respond

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have my reasons for being on here, as does everybody. I feel so lucky to have met some of the most gorgeous, gym fit hunky guys to have hours of mind blowing sex with. I have asked a few why Fab? Their response is always "nsa kinky fun" , "no emotional tie". Nearly all have had a girlfriend or are married and in a similar situation to me. I've just made a new friend who looks like a male model and should be part of The Chippendales; All hale to these gorgeous, delicious guys

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?

Because 95% of them are fakes and the women wonder why said adonis doesn't show up. "

That's not true.

Like previously stated. I'm sure most of us don't have a problem meeting or pulling outside of fab but for me being on a site like this cuts out a lot of the bullshit and pretence. What you see is what you get

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Pulling in the real world is A LOT different to meetibg for sex on Fab.

With Fab you can talk aboit sex more as a common interest, where as out of fab you would be classed as a sex pest. Lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

fab is a fun site,for nsa sex,

you don't have to be gym fit,nor the sexiest,just open honest and fun??

and let the good times roll

I agree with the op,we all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??"

Have you never talked to a human being?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For a lot of people regardless of their looks / body type Fabs is just a means to an end.

It's an upfront way to meet like minded as opposed to like bodied people.

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By *p4funCouple  over a year ago

Plymouth


"I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?

Well I'd look right prat walking around naked like this. Probably wouldn't be allowed into most nite clubs or bars..."

Pmsl

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after

Hmmm...not quite everyone can pull in the real world sorry. I have friends who can't seem to meet anyone despite them being blessed with good looks and personality. I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life!

Because on here you can have an upfront, brutally honest conversation about what you're into and find someone compatible with your sexual interests. "

Exactly. And I can find out in advance if their willy actually works too!!!! (voice born of experience!)

And in reply to the OP - many gorgeous young men actually do want to meet older women, but it is a bit of a taboo so they find it easier online. I have met male models who would have NO problem at all in any bar. Well lucky old me!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??

Have you never talked to a human being? "

??? elaborate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can pull more easily here than in real life. It's quicker, I can do it from my sofa and I don't even have to go out. "

Show off!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??

Have you never talked to a human being?

??? elaborate"

You said "where is the fun in that, or the anticipation or the excitement" in talking to someone face to face rather than on fab. Seems odd to me. Id much rather talk to human than Swype my phone screen. But that's just me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?"

Hmmm.

Because ALL kinds of people have sex drives and sexual interests.

I'm honestly puzzled by your post.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??

Have you never talked to a human being?

??? elaborate

You said "where is the fun in that, or the anticipation or the excitement" in talking to someone face to face rather than on fab. Seems odd to me. Id much rather talk to human than Swype my phone screen. But that's just me. "

perhaps I should explain a little more,fab is full of like minded people who are up front as to what they want,so it kind of makes it easier to narrow your options,

on the pull out on the drink is totally different set of rules,face to face is what a 1st meet is all about and it still carries the excitement and anticipation as a normal arranged date from meeting a lady in a bar??

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By *rKinkedKuntMan  over a year ago

Sheffield


"I get many messages from great looking gym fit guys in their 30s and early 40s with great looks, physique and am always puzzled as to why on earth they go on fab when they can easily pull in the real world! They seldom get back to me!

So why? Do they think ladies on fab are more into kink or something?

Because 95% of them are fakes and the women wonder why said adonis doesn't show up.

That's not true.

Like previously stated. I'm sure most of us don't have a problem meeting or pulling outside of fab but for me being on a site like this cuts out a lot of the bullshit and pretence. What you see is what you get "

You might be genuine mate, easy to tell from your profile but plenty are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thing I've found is that wen you 'pull' in the real world, unless it's a one night stand, feelings will inevitably be encountered by someone and there is always an expectation for the relationship to be 'going somewhere'

I'm happy not being in a relationship. I don't want a relationship. What id like is someone i can have a laugh with as well as be naked with without the expectations of a traditional relationship. "

A 'situationship'.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??

Have you never talked to a human being?

??? elaborate

You said "where is the fun in that, or the anticipation or the excitement" in talking to someone face to face rather than on fab. Seems odd to me. Id much rather talk to human than Swype my phone screen. But that's just me.

perhaps I should explain a little more,fab is full of like minded people who are up front as to what they want,so it kind of makes it easier to narrow your options,

on the pull out on the drink is totally different set of rules,face to face is what a 1st meet is all about and it still carries the excitement and anticipation as a normal arranged date from meeting a lady in a bar??"

Have you never been to a swinging club?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We all can pull outside of here,but where is the fun in that,or the anticipation or excitement??

Have you never talked to a human being?

??? elaborate

You said "where is the fun in that, or the anticipation or the excitement" in talking to someone face to face rather than on fab. Seems odd to me. Id much rather talk to human than Swype my phone screen. But that's just me.

perhaps I should explain a little more,fab is full of like minded people who are up front as to what they want,so it kind of makes it easier to narrow your options,

on the pull out on the drink is totally different set of rules,face to face is what a 1st meet is all about and it still carries the excitement and anticipation as a normal arranged date from meeting a lady in a bar??

Have you never been to a swinging club? "

no id shit myself

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none. Then you see they're wearing loafers and rolled up trousers. Game over...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none. Then you see they're wearing loafers and rolled up trousers. Game over... "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none. Then you see they're wearing loafers and rolled up trousers. Game over...

"

ha ha ha ha x

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none. "

Ooh no, I've done it way back but I much prefer getting together with people I know something about! My chums keeps begging me to come out on the pull in Clapham, but I would hate not knowing anything about the person I met.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none.

Ooh no, I've done it way back but I much prefer getting together with people I know something about! My chums keeps begging me to come out on the pull in Clapham, but I would hate not knowing anything about the person I met. "

I go out in Clapham a lot... it's fun, lots of guys/girls!

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

I don't think people are on fab because they can't find people in real life, that isn't what swinging is about in my opinion.

Loads often join thinking is desperate, sex mad women and are quickly disabuse of that idea. It's just people of all ages, sizes and looks who find it easier to say what they want from the off.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

God! What terrible grammar...sorry

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex "

I've never really pulled in the real world. My wife ( literally) picked me up when I was low down and I sort of fell into a miserable marriage. Always been far too shy and insecure. I was friend zoned by most of the world's female population before the term was even invented.Always had loads of "girl-friends" but never any girlfriends

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By *100Man  over a year ago

Essex


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none.

Ooh no, I've done it way back but I much prefer getting together with people I know something about! My chums keeps begging me to come out on the pull in Clapham, but I would hate not knowing anything about the person I met.

I go out in Clapham a lot... it's fun, lots of guys/girls! "

I think it's because we on fab are always thinking about sex and fab is our catalogue for anything sexy where else can you chat with naked people I love it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none.

Ooh no, I've done it way back but I much prefer getting together with people I know something about! My chums keeps begging me to come out on the pull in Clapham, but I would hate not knowing anything about the person I met.

I go out in Clapham a lot... it's fun, lots of guys/girls!

I think it's because we on fab are always thinking about sex and fab is our catalogue for anything sexy where else can you chat with naked people I love it."

There is A LOT of nakedness! So much dick before morning coffee...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

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By *not69Man  over a year ago

Lancashire


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

"

Thank you, you just made my day. Spat my coffee everywhere tho lol xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple."

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none.

Ooh no, I've done it way back but I much prefer getting together with people I know something about! My chums keeps begging me to come out on the pull in Clapham, but I would hate not knowing anything about the person I met.

I go out in Clapham a lot... it's fun, lots of guys/girls! "

I know I could not believe it - we came back from dancing in N London at about 2am and there was a traffic jam on the High street, the place was still rammed, people everywhere!! She was a swinger and has a flat just at the end of the street haha!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

Thank you, you just made my day. Spat my coffee everywhere tho lol xxxx"

Seriously it depresses me

There they are with their minions of potential father's and I can't even find one guy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either. "

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

"

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either. "

Fab outrage?

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By *ommando4Man  over a year ago

South Co. Dublin


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men. "

Us older men can be vacuous too I have you know....

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By *ye SeMan  over a year ago

london


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after

Hmmm...not quite everyone can pull in the real world sorry. I have friends who can't seem to meet anyone despite them being blessed with good looks and personality. I also feel that many guys do use fab because they feel they need to not because they want to. Many guys I have met have stated that they have had.much more success on fab than in real life! "

As most of the guys who train on here, I joined for different experiences and enjoyments. Going out and pulling leads to one night stand where you play it safe. On fab you know what the person is into and if there's anything they want to try. Fab is an experience not a quickly.

But I do get people at times telling me my pics must be fake as I'm in shape.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

and just because you go to the fecking gym, it doesn't make you MORE attractive!

Not to me anyway, oh but wait I don't count because I'm a size 14 with a soft tummy.

ranting hat firmly on

Grrr.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men.

Us older men can be vacuous too I have you know.... "

I'll be vacuous with you any day you like!!

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"and just because you go to the fecking gym, it doesn't make you MORE attractive!

Not to me anyway, oh but wait I don't count because I'm a size 14 with a soft tummy.

ranting hat firmly on

Grrr."

Yes, I find excess muscle a little repulsive to be honest, my dancing friend has those huge gym bunny thighs and they look ridiculous in jeans IMO.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

Thank you, you just made my day. Spat my coffee everywhere tho lol xxxx

Seriously it depresses me

There they are with their minions of potential father's and I can't even find one guy

"

Looking at your profile, I find it hard to believe you can't find a guy xx.You must be very choosy, and rightly so lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth "

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

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By *ye SeMan  over a year ago

london


"and just because you go to the fecking gym, it doesn't make you MORE attractive!

Not to me anyway, oh but wait I don't count because I'm a size 14 with a soft tummy.

ranting hat firmly on

Grrr."

Just because someone train doesn't meant there only in to other how exercise. It's what turn them on. That's the joy of fab.

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By *ohnjones3210Man  over a year ago

Chester

I'm going to get slated for this lol... But here goes.

I find that I can get get sex in both worlds. But it's different.

Most women in the 'real world' are not at all interested in 'just sex'. They want relationships and more. They seem to be more limited sexually too.

There are very few 'real world' women who just want sex or fun although I've known one or two. Pretty much all I've known just use sex as a way to lure a man in in order to trap him into a relationship!

At pubs and clubs, you've got to mess about to find out if a woman is sexual or not. Here, you have a good idea that they are sexual.

Here, you can see their bodies too before hand and have a preliminary chat.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out. "

You're out of the woodwork now aren't you?

Yuck.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men. "

LOL whatever makes you feel better. Reality is rather straight forward, older less attractive women are less desirable than their younger countparts. Anyone telling you different is either lying or desperate, there are alot of those too here.

I have little idea why you're justifying your meeting older men to me. Reeks of rationalization.

But, either way, I find that sites like these tend to attract the kind of women who thinks that attraction starts and stops at their vagina. Alot of men talk about how much they love older women/BBWs because they're desperate, its the women I meet who tell me that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You're out of the woodwork now aren't you?

Yuck.

"

Yuck? LOL why because I'm not partaking in the Fab "all women are awesome and men should have no expectations or desires!!" circlejerk?

I'll pass.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out. "

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You're out of the woodwork now aren't you?

Yuck.

Yuck? LOL why because I'm not partaking in the Fab "all women are awesome and men should have no expectations or desires!!" circlejerk?

I'll pass. "

No expectations here!

Certainly not from anyone with such a closed view of the human race.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices."

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

People use fab because they want to not because they need to, if you shag in the real world there is more of a chance that the person you pulled may think something more will come from it and be after a relationship where as on here we all know where we stand and what we are after "

This!

Find it odd people seem to imply you have to be a minger/fetish/sexually inept to use Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"and just because you go to the fecking gym, it doesn't make you MORE attractive!

Not to me anyway, oh but wait I don't count because I'm a size 14 with a soft tummy.

ranting hat firmly on

Grrr."

I agree with you, what is that all about

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men.

LOL whatever makes you feel better. Reality is rather straight forward, older less attractive women are less desirable than their younger countparts. Anyone telling you different is either lying or desperate, there are alot of those too here.

I have little idea why you're justifying your meeting older men to me. Reeks of rationalization.

But, either way, I find that sites like these tend to attract the kind of women who thinks that attraction starts and stops at their vagina. Alot of men talk about how much they love older women/BBWs because they're desperate, its the women I meet who tell me that. "

Sure, there are a lot of desperate men and women on here - but I don't meet that kind, and as I say, the male model on POF does not NEED to meet someone like me, but they do regardless. Maybe there's something you just don't understand.

No rationalisation or justification here - I was simply making the point that gym bunny bodies do not always house the most desirable characteristics, shock horror!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices."

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

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By *ye SeMan  over a year ago

london


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

"

PMSL

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thing I've found is that wen you 'pull' in the real world, unless it's a one night stand, feelings will inevitably be encountered by someone and there is always an expectation for the relationship to be 'going somewhere'

I'm happy not being in a relationship. I don't want a relationship. What id like is someone i can have a laugh with as well as be naked with without the expectations of a traditional relationship. "

If you pull in a bar and have a one night stand it's almost like you're potentially misleading someone (like fucking about on POF).

At least here people know what the score is from the beginning.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You're out of the woodwork now aren't you?

Yuck.

Yuck? LOL why because I'm not partaking in the Fab "all women are awesome and men should have no expectations or desires!!" circlejerk?

I'll pass. "

It's not the partaking that's the issue it's the way it's being conveyed.

Maybe if more men had expectations the sense of entitlement from some women would diminish....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We use fab simply to get the type of sex you dont usually get in hook ups etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

"

Why have you suddenly turned this into a weight issue? We get you don't find overweight people attractive and you think we're entitled.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"For a lot of people regardless of their looks / body type Fabs is just a means to an end.

It's an upfront way to meet like minded as opposed to like bodied people.

"

Exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

((Puts his hand up (in the air peeps, in the air!!)))

I am not gym fit. I am not attractive... I fuck people that make me laugh... if they don't me giggle I ain't gonna wiggle...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thing I've found is that wen you 'pull' in the real world, unless it's a one night stand, feelings will inevitably be encountered by someone and there is always an expectation for the relationship to be 'going somewhere'

I'm happy not being in a relationship. I don't want a relationship. What id like is someone i can have a laugh with as well as be naked with without the expectations of a traditional relationship.

If you pull in a bar and have a one night stand it's almost like you're potentially misleading someone (like fucking about on POF).

At least here people know what the score is from the beginning."

Exactly this! I got told off for leading guys on from Tinder. Here, mainly, relationships and dating is off the table from the start.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men.

LOL whatever makes you feel better. Reality is rather straight forward, older less attractive women are less desirable than their younger countparts. Anyone telling you different is either lying or desperate, there are alot of those too here.

I have little idea why you're justifying your meeting older men to me. Reeks of rationalization.

But, either way, I find that sites like these tend to attract the kind of women who thinks that attraction starts and stops at their vagina. Alot of men talk about how much they love older women/BBWs because they're desperate, its the women I meet who tell me that.

Sure, there are a lot of desperate men and women on here - but I don't meet that kind, and as I say, the male model on POF does not NEED to meet someone like me, but they do regardless. Maybe there's something you just don't understand.

No rationalisation or justification here - I was simply making the point that gym bunny bodies do not always house the most desirable characteristics, shock horror!!"

I said why. Access to easy sex. I was actually talking about this to someone outside of Fab. Told her type into Google: "what are women on POF like" and she got all the insight she needed. The good thing about Fab is that you get a selection of women (more likely as part of a couple rather than simple) who know what this is. An avenue for sex which may be easier due to the lack of boundaries.

The problem with many others on here (and more on POF tbh) is that women tend to assume that just because they're being bombarded with messages, it actually seriously denotes how attractive or desirable they are...for the most part it doesnt. Men bombard women with messages because its easy. I tend to find the appearance of choice does more to inflate the egos of women rather than men. Problem is its an ego built on a warped truth fueled by lopsided gender ratios and a lack of repercussions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

Why have you suddenly turned this into a weight issue? We get you don't find overweight people attractive and you think we're entitled. "

I think overweight applies more. Yes, women lose attraction with age but there are plenty who age very well.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex "

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By *ye SeMan  over a year ago

london


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

Why have you suddenly turned this into a weight issue? We get you don't find overweight people attractive and you think we're entitled. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

Why have you suddenly turned this into a weight issue? We get you don't find overweight people attractive and you think we're entitled.

I think overweight applies more. Yes, women lose attraction with age but there are plenty who age very well. "

Please stop generalising in your posts.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none. Then you see they're wearing loafers and rolled up trousers. Game over... "

...you sound like my daughter. We were out shopping once and this lad was eying her up and I could tell by her face she was enjoying the attention, then her face changed to a look of horror. I turned to where she was staring, but couldn't see what had made her bug her eyes and purse her lips.

I asked her what was wrong. She said look in his hands...it was a Netto carrier bag...game over indeed!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

And now what? You want to suddenly preach about the faults of superficiality and vanity when they dont benefit you? I notice that alot. People suddenly believe in altruism when they're the beneficiary. No one is prejudiced for not liking people who are overweight.

Why have you suddenly turned this into a weight issue? We get you don't find overweight people attractive and you think we're entitled.

I think overweight applies more. Yes, women lose attraction with age but there are plenty who age very well.

Please stop generalising in your posts. "

How so? What parts of that post are inaccurate?

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I don't think people are on fab because they can't find people in real life, that isn't what swinging is about in my opinion.

Loads often join thinking is desperate, sex mad women and are quickly disabuse of that idea. It's just people of all ages, sizes and looks who find it easier to say what they want from the off."

Indeed!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"That feeling of catching someone's eye at a crowded bar is second to none. Then you see they're wearing loafers and rolled up trousers. Game over...

...you sound like my daughter. We were out shopping once and this lad was eying her up and I could tell by her face she was enjoying the attention, then her face changed to a look of horror. I turned to where she was staring, but couldn't see what had made her bug her eyes and purse her lips.

I asked her what was wrong. She said look in his hands...it was a Netto carrier bag...game over indeed! "

Haha! I'm terrible with shoes... it's my one thing!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You're rather shouty Superfreak, aren't you?

Well, I wish you all the luck with your meets. I'll leave it at that rather than CAPS LOCK YOU WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM SUPERTHRILLED YOU WOULDN'T BE PURSUING ME.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either. "

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth "

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By *not69Man  over a year ago

Lancashire


"Anybody can pull in the real world

You only have to watch Jeremy Kyle and the women with no teeth trying to find out which of the 6 guys she's fucked is her baby's dad to know you don't have to be a looker to find sex

Thank you, you just made my day. Spat my coffee everywhere tho lol xxxx

Seriously it depresses me

There they are with their minions of potential father's and I can't even find one guy

"

Same here hun, but I'm not after a guy , just a nice lady.

I think the same thing whenever I stumble across JK on TV. "How the hell do they get a shag?" But then you just have to look at the guys they are shagging, and it's like for like I suppose.

I wouldn't go for the toothless woman no matter how good her bj's were and you probably would go for any of the 6 potential father's either.

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

El oh 'ell

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Btw, there are some nice tits in this... stimulating debate. One or two.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

Oh I don't know, I see loads of gorgeous 20 and 30 something women on here, and i still hold my own thanks, on here, on POF or on Tinder.

It has nothing to do with self-entitlement - you just can't get over the fact that other fit young men have a whale of a time with older women that you do not find attractive. I often ask them why too - the younger guys I meet usually say they have always had a thing for older women, that they find them far more interesting than all the vacuous young women they meet in bars, and the sex is far better too.

I am very self-aware thanks, I have just enjoyed the sight of a six pack between my thighs sometimes, though actually I am finding the young gym bunnies too vacuous nowadays, and I'm meeting older men.

LOL whatever makes you feel better. Reality is rather straight forward, older less attractive women are less desirable than their younger countparts. Anyone telling you different is either lying or desperate, there are alot of those too here.

I have little idea why you're justifying your meeting older men to me. Reeks of rationalization.

But, either way, I find that sites like these tend to attract the kind of women who thinks that attraction starts and stops at their vagina. Alot of men talk about how much they love older women/BBWs because they're desperate, its the women I meet who tell me that.

Sure, there are a lot of desperate men and women on here - but I don't meet that kind, and as I say, the male model on POF does not NEED to meet someone like me, but they do regardless. Maybe there's something you just don't understand.

No rationalisation or justification here - I was simply making the point that gym bunny bodies do not always house the most desirable characteristics, shock horror!!

I said why. Access to easy sex. I was actually talking about this to someone outside of Fab. Told her type into Google: "what are women on POF like" and she got all the insight she needed. The good thing about Fab is that you get a selection of women (more likely as part of a couple rather than simple) who know what this is. An avenue for sex which may be easier due to the lack of boundaries.

The problem with many others on here (and more on POF tbh) is that women tend to assume that just because they're being bombarded with messages, it actually seriously denotes how attractive or desirable they are...for the most part it doesnt. Men bombard women with messages because its easy. I tend to find the appearance of choice does more to inflate the egos of women rather than men. Problem is its an ego built on a warped truth fueled by lopsided gender ratios and a lack of repercussions. "

Can't argue with your last paragraph. It is laughable how SOME women react on Fab due to the sycophantic desperation of SOME men, no one is denying that.

However, to suggest like should only attract like is ridiculous.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're rather shouty Superfreak, aren't you?

Well, I wish you all the luck with your meets. I'll leave it at that rather than CAPS LOCK YOU WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM SUPERTHRILLED YOU WOULDN'T BE PURSUING ME.

"

You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They get more attention on here as they can hide if there a ass. You can pretend to be different online rather than in person

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're rather shouty Superfreak, aren't you?

Well, I wish you all the luck with your meets. I'll leave it at that rather than CAPS LOCK YOU WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM SUPERTHRILLED YOU WOULDN'T BE PURSUING ME.

You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out."

When you only see the body and not the mind you have failed to understand the most sensitive sexual organ a woman has... good luck in your continuing search OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're rather shouty Superfreak, aren't you?

Well, I wish you all the luck with your meets. I'll leave it at that rather than CAPS LOCK YOU WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM SUPERTHRILLED YOU WOULDN'T BE PURSUING ME.

You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out.

When you only see the body and not the mind you have failed to understand the most sensitive sexual organ a woman has... good luck in your continuing search OP"

Ooh not OP (my apologies), Mr Superfreak

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"You're rather shouty Superfreak, aren't you?

Well, I wish you all the luck with your meets. I'll leave it at that rather than CAPS LOCK YOU WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM SUPERTHRILLED YOU WOULDN'T BE PURSUING ME.

You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out.

When you only see the body and not the mind you have failed to understand the most sensitive sexual organ a woman has... good luck in your continuing search OP"

Or the pleasure the mind can give as opposed to solely the body!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm just happy that the types of guys I find attractive are also attracted to me.

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By *eliWoman  over a year ago

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"You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out."

OP, there's a bit of validity to what you're saying - it's one of your penultimate paragraphs that I quite agreed with. But making a personal attack and commenting on her profile? Bit shitty and not allowed. Surely you can have a debate without stooping so low.

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By *eliWoman  over a year ago

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Oh Superfreak, not OP!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here. "

TBH it has been scientifically proven that like does indeed attract like...even in other races. Vast majority of couples are of similar attractiveness, socioeconomic bracket, income, lifestyle and race. But this is not really the issue.

There is a real double standard going on here. When physically less attractive men desire partners who are physically attractive, they're berated for it. Somehow with women, this is a-okay.

I also dont think people "like what they like", I tend to think people "like what they can". As stated, the gender ratios favor women which means that men will be more liberal about who they meet. But that doesnt mean it says anything about what these people actually desire. And it shows, when I go to cinemas, gyms, restaurants...I see who is dating who. People tend to stick with those who are of similar interests or attractiveness levels. Therefore a working class woman shouldnt cry when she cant get a rich man, a fat guy shouldnt cry when he cant get a slim, attractive women and vice-versa. Thats it really.

I have had some oddball reactions when people notice I dont reply, its like they feel I am supposed to be jumping for joy at the possibility of sex because they have a vagina. Thats what this thread seems to be kind of getting at too, that the attractive men are on here because they need to be. I mean, how is that not a generalization?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can pull more easily here than in real life. It's quicker, I can do it from my sofa and I don't even have to go out. "

love this x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out. "

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Fab outrage in progress

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out.

OP, there's a bit of validity to what you're saying - it's one of your penultimate paragraphs that I quite agreed with. But making a personal attack and commenting on her profile? Bit shitty and not allowed. Surely you can have a debate without stooping so low."

Actually, to be honest I was a bit gleeful in rejecting him first in my comment. So I'll take that reply comment. All is good. Thankfully my typical 150 pics are in private settings since yesterday, or it could have been a lot more personal. Phew!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You're rather shouty Superfreak, aren't you?

Well, I wish you all the luck with your meets. I'll leave it at that rather than CAPS LOCK YOU WITH ALL THE REASONS I AM SUPERTHRILLED YOU WOULDN'T BE PURSUING ME.

You're on Fab with no pictures other than closeups of your face and you class yourself as "curvy". I'm not losing out.

When you only see the body and not the mind you have failed to understand the most sensitive sexual organ a woman has... good luck in your continuing search OP"

This is what I am talking about, this comical tapdancing from alot of the men here.

I mean this statement is rich on so many levels. Especially considering where we are.

No one values the mind on here, the "most fabbed" and popular profile/meet lists should make that very clear. Be careful you're not getting duped into thinking this isnt an incredibly shallow place by those who lull you into a sense of complacency with nonsensical statements like "personality is what matters!!"

Heard it all before

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

some will have fake pics. also, if you think about it guys who look after their body probably don't drink so where they gonna pick up women from?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here.

TBH it has been scientifically proven that like does indeed attract like...even in other races. Vast majority of couples are of similar attractiveness, socioeconomic bracket, income, lifestyle and race. But this is not really the issue.

There is a real double standard going on here. When physically less attractive men desire partners who are physically attractive, they're berated for it. Somehow with women, this is a-okay.

I also dont think people "like what they like", I tend to think people "like what they can". As stated, the gender ratios favor women which means that men will be more liberal about who they meet. But that doesnt mean it says anything about what these people actually desire. And it shows, when I go to cinemas, gyms, restaurants...I see who is dating who. People tend to stick with those who are of similar interests or attractiveness levels. Therefore a working class woman shouldnt cry when she cant get a rich man, a fat guy shouldnt cry when he cant get a slim, attractive women and vice-versa. Thats it really.

I have had some oddball reactions when people notice I dont reply, its like they feel I am supposed to be jumping for joy at the possibility of sex because they have a vagina. Thats what this thread seems to be kind of getting at too, that the attractive men are on here because they need to be. I mean, how is that not a generalization?"

You tend to look at people in a physical way.. I think we all understand this, no doubt your success in finding like minded bodies to delight in speaks for itself. But I am afraid you are being one-dimensional... now for some that's enough... however some people can go beyond the purely physical. Take for example a bdsm relationship; here the mental stimuli is more important...

You seem to have a "beef" that single guys are tarnished and viewed as desperate; unfortunately that's the way fab is... you are right to exercise choice but all of your comments regarding this are based on a base form of pure physical attraction and deny the existence of anything more than this... some people think outside the box.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"

And 95% of the sexy people I know find vanity and superficiality repulsive....so maybe that's why people graduate towards fabs, to connect with people on the same wavelength. In my view we need to learn to try to understand other people's perspective a little more rather than just spew out our own prejudices.

If you think vanity and superficiality isnt on Fab, you're mistaken. Isnt this the same site with heaps of profiles which read like:

"NO BLACK/WHITE/ASIAN MEN

ONLY BIG DICKS!!

ONLY MESSAGE ME BETWEEN 23:04 AND 23:22!!

GYM FIT ONLY!

NO BI/STRAIGHT MEN

NO GINGER/BLONDE HAIR

NO MEN BELOW 6FT!!"

"

Yeah, but those are just shouty, foul people - you find those everywhere, ignore them!! I think you will find that far from having huge egos the shouty foul ones are the most insecure and damaged, actually, they project outwards what they cannot stomach inwards.

Of course fabs is largely superficial - but at least here people can discover and openly discuss the LESS superficial aspects of sexual attraction.

And of course it is prejudiced to 'not like' people who are fat the same as it would be prejudiced to 'not like' people who are black or have thighs like hams (not me, two such guys are my best friends as it happens!).

But I am entirely within my rights to not fancy you, same as you are within your rights to not fancy me. We often hear rants from gym bunnies who have been turned down by porky women they thought were beneath them - but maybe they suck like a dyson or give men orgasms like they never dreamed of? You cannot judge even sexual 'value' on a picture, there's way more to it.

It's not a question of altruism - I know my worth in the real world (which is WAY more than my superficial value in the pulling stakes anyway) and as I say, I can still pull male models on dating sites so I have no beef to grind either way lol!!

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"I'm just happy that the types of guys I find attractive are also attracted to me. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves "

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"

The problem with many others on here (and more on POF tbh) is that women tend to assume that just because they're being bombarded with messages, it actually seriously denotes how attractive or desirable they are...for the most part it doesnt. Men bombard women with messages because its easy. I tend to find the appearance of choice does more to inflate the egos of women rather than men. Problem is its an ego built on a warped truth fueled by lopsided gender ratios and a lack of repercussions. "

I disagree. I find that men who come here with hugely inflated egos based on superficiality confuse the entitlement they see from some women here, who have simply discovered they can get whatever they demand, however rudely they demand it.

Sure, some women become very disparaging, some men are desperate and will fuck anything - but some people choose partners that they are entranced by for other reasons, and have fantastic sex with them and go back for more again and again. I think you need to get your head round that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise. "

You are transferring your concept of "standards" onto other people... I am surprised as a sexually experienced person... you have failed to grasp the potential of the mind...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise. "

Forget what others are doing.

Keep your own windows clean.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

the amount of messages you get does denote how desirable you are, maybe not how attractive though. depends why they're messaging you also.

i used to get a lot of messages on POF until i stated on my profile that i won't be having sex with anyone i date because i'm not going without sex now and am not desperate. 0 messages ever since, really.

so men maybe thought i was on there because i was desperate, this wouldn't make me attractive lol but would make me desirable to dickheads.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You could flip the coin and ask why do so many beautiful, sexy women use fab when they could pull in the real world.

"

Where ??

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"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here.

TBH it has been scientifically proven that like does indeed attract like...even in other races. Vast majority of couples are of similar attractiveness, socioeconomic bracket, income, lifestyle and race. But this is not really the issue.

There is a real double standard going on here. When physically less attractive men desire partners who are physically attractive, they're berated for it. Somehow with women, this is a-okay.

I also dont think people "like what they like", I tend to think people "like what they can". As stated, the gender ratios favor women which means that men will be more liberal about who they meet. But that doesnt mean it says anything about what these people actually desire. And it shows, when I go to cinemas, gyms, restaurants...I see who is dating who. People tend to stick with those who are of similar interests or attractiveness levels. Therefore a working class woman shouldnt cry when she cant get a rich man, a fat guy shouldnt cry when he cant get a slim, attractive women and vice-versa. Thats it really.

I have had some oddball reactions when people notice I dont reply, its like they feel I am supposed to be jumping for joy at the possibility of sex because they have a vagina. Thats what this thread seems to be kind of getting at too, that the attractive men are on here because they need to be. I mean, how is that not a generalization?

You tend to look at people in a physical way.. I think we all understand this, no doubt your success in finding like minded bodies to delight in speaks for itself. But I am afraid you are being one-dimensional... now for some that's enough... however some people can go beyond the purely physical. Take for example a bdsm relationship; here the mental stimuli is more important...

You seem to have a "beef" that single guys are tarnished and viewed as desperate; unfortunately that's the way fab is... you are right to exercise choice but all of your comments regarding this are based on a base form of pure physical attraction and deny the existence of anything more than this... some people think outside the box."

Pure physical attration drives this site. Hence why women and couples often request that people leave "codewords" to show they actually read the worded portion of their profiles. I mean, you're actually sitting here trying to convince me that this is not the case. What world do you live in? Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks. Alot of the profiles are completely empty. Same for the women, the most fabbed are the most attractive...the most "porno friendly" looking profiles.

Tinder's success came from completely forgoing the profile thing altogether. Looks come before alot on here. I have actually found that writing any kind of profile is pointless as no one reads it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not much trouble pulling in the real world its just vanilla girls (1s I've dated) are not as open, kinky nor got the high sex drive to keep up with. Hence why myself I like Fab

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"the amount of messages you get does denote how desirable you are, maybe not how attractive though. depends why they're messaging you also.

i used to get a lot of messages on POF until i stated on my profile that i won't be having sex with anyone i date because i'm not going without sex now and am not desperate. 0 messages ever since, really.

so men maybe thought i was on there because i was desperate, this wouldn't make me attractive lol but would make me desirable to dickheads."

This is actually a good way of putting it. Desire is not attractiveness.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise.

You are transferring your concept of "standards" onto other people... I am surprised as a sexually experienced person... you have failed to grasp the potential of the mind..."

People dont fuck minds. Minds do not dictate how attractive someone is. Also lets not pretend as if half this site cant construct a sentence worth a damn anyway. Still talking to 35+ year old women who use txt spk. Intellectual capacity cannot be determined by a couple pictures and a short profile on a swingers site.

Stop with the damn sycophancy. Its corny and unattractive. Your posts in this thread kind of reek of someone in need of female approval. There are too many men running around with that mindset.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Superfreak... Your replies and comments have a huge air of resentment about them.

You're a very blinkered individual if you think people are only attracted to those who are exactly the same as them.

Luckily, I know that on and off here, people are more accepting and open-minded. Many people tend not to dwell on body types or age.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They get more attention on here as they can hide if there a ass. You can pretend to be different online rather than in person "

Pah!!

I'm not exactly super fit but simply being my size I get a lot more attention on a night out than I do on here. People, like you, automatically think that because I enjoy working out and looking after myself instead of getting pissed up every weekend I am somehow shallow, as thick as two short planks and as you so elegantly put it, an ass.

As I explained. Im here because it's easy to be honest with people not because I can be someone else.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here.

TBH it has been scientifically proven that like does indeed attract like...even in other races. Vast majority of couples are of similar attractiveness, socioeconomic bracket, income, lifestyle and race. But this is not really the issue.

There is a real double standard going on here. When physically less attractive men desire partners who are physically attractive, they're berated for it. Somehow with women, this is a-okay.

I also dont think people "like what they like", I tend to think people "like what they can". As stated, the gender ratios favor women which means that men will be more liberal about who they meet. But that doesnt mean it says anything about what these people actually desire. And it shows, when I go to cinemas, gyms, restaurants...I see who is dating who. People tend to stick with those who are of similar interests or attractiveness levels. Therefore a working class woman shouldnt cry when she cant get a rich man, a fat guy shouldnt cry when he cant get a slim, attractive women and vice-versa. Thats it really.

I have had some oddball reactions when people notice I dont reply, its like they feel I am supposed to be jumping for joy at the possibility of sex because they have a vagina. Thats what this thread seems to be kind of getting at too, that the attractive men are on here because they need to be. I mean, how is that not a generalization?

You tend to look at people in a physical way.. I think we all understand this, no doubt your success in finding like minded bodies to delight in speaks for itself. But I am afraid you are being one-dimensional... now for some that's enough... however some people can go beyond the purely physical. Take for example a bdsm relationship; here the mental stimuli is more important...

You seem to have a "beef" that single guys are tarnished and viewed as desperate; unfortunately that's the way fab is... you are right to exercise choice but all of your comments regarding this are based on a base form of pure physical attraction and deny the existence of anything more than this... some people think outside the box.

Pure physical attration drives this site. Hence why women and couples often request that people leave "codewords" to show they actually read the worded portion of their profiles. I mean, you're actually sitting here trying to convince me that this is not the case. What world do you live in? Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks. Alot of the profiles are completely empty. Same for the women, the most fabbed are the most attractive...the most "porno friendly" looking profiles.

Tinder's success came from completely forgoing the profile thing altogether. Looks come before alot on here. I have actually found that writing any kind of profile is pointless as no one reads it. "

And this is your experience... in the 5+ years I have been on and off fab, I beg to differ. BUT please stop with the "I am right you are wrong" stuff. I meet all kinds of people, of all shapes and sizes and hell they meet me too... this site is an adventure... adventures are usually found down paths you don't normally go...for whatever reason. Most fabbed? Means nothing. MOST verified? means nothing. IF I added up all my verifications from the years I have been on and off here I guess I would be around 500 or so... does that make me attractive or desperate? NO. It makes me open minded. It's a swinging site. Bring an open mind or doors tend to close.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"They get more attention on here as they can hide if there a ass. You can pretend to be different online rather than in person

Pah!!

I'm not exactly super fit but simply being my size I get a lot more attention on a night out than I do on here. People, like you, automatically think that because I enjoy working out and looking after myself instead of getting pissed up every weekend I am somehow shallow, as thick as two short planks and as you so elegantly put it, an ass.

As I explained. Im here because it's easy to be honest with people not because I can be someone else. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise.

You are transferring your concept of "standards" onto other people... I am surprised as a sexually experienced person... you have failed to grasp the potential of the mind...

People dont fuck minds. Minds do not dictate how attractive someone is. Also lets not pretend as if half this site cant construct a sentence worth a damn anyway. Still talking to 35+ year old women who use txt spk. Intellectual capacity cannot be determined by a couple pictures and a short profile on a swingers site.

Stop with the damn sycophancy. Its corny and unattractive. Your posts in this thread kind of reek of someone in need of female approval. There are too many men running around with that mindset. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise.

You are transferring your concept of "standards" onto other people... I am surprised as a sexually experienced person... you have failed to grasp the potential of the mind...

People dont fuck minds. Minds do not dictate how attractive someone is. Also lets not pretend as if half this site cant construct a sentence worth a damn anyway. Still talking to 35+ year old women who use txt spk. Intellectual capacity cannot be determined by a couple pictures and a short profile on a swingers site.

Stop with the damn sycophancy. Its corny and unattractive. Your posts in this thread kind of reek of someone in need of female approval. There are too many men running around with that mindset. "

A personal attack as you cannot see another person's point of view. Even though he has stated clearly he sees yours. So instead you begin to insult and name call to try and force that opposing opinion to be quiet...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Superfreak... Your replies and comments have a huge air of resentment about them.

You're a very blinkered individual if you think people are only attracted to those who are exactly the same as them.

Luckily, I know that on and off here, people are more accepting and open-minded. Many people tend not to dwell on body types or age. "

They have an air of resentment because you're right. It is resentment. Resentment with the fact that this site seems to have people even more demanding and uptight than those on "vanilla" sites and that they think I should be attracted to them on the virtue that they're naked.

People tend to be as open minded as their options.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

I never get that attitude

Are you saying that because I'm fat I'm only allowed to be attracted to fat guys?

That maks no sense to me, my looks do not reflect my tastes in men

Be I a size 8, 18 or 28 I'd still be attracted to the same, you can't force yourself to be attracted to fat guys just because others think that's all your worth

Do I think that fat people should be attracted to other people? Yes...I do actually.

The thing which I find interesting about modern hookup apps/sites is that it has created an immense sense of entitlement for alot of people. Its not so much that men who look a certain way should not be dating women of a certain weight, but those same women should not be crying about not meeting "their type" when their type indulges in a lifestyle they they're too lazy to emulate.

Size 8 or 28 may have you attracted to the same, but what on earth makes you think the same guy will be attracted to you? 95% of the fit people I know find being overweight repulsive, thats why they work out.

i get loads and i mean loads of gym fit guys mail me, i don't tend to meet them because thats not really what im attractes to, but they contactes me so im assuming there must be some attraction on their part, other wise we're saying these guys who work out because they find being over weight repulsive actually have no standards which kind of contradicts itself to me

im still not sure why you think people should be attracted to the opposite sex version of themselves

Alot of guys forgo standards for easy sex. I am surprised that on a site with so many sexually experienced people, this comes as a surprise.

You are transferring your concept of "standards" onto other people... I am surprised as a sexually experienced person... you have failed to grasp the potential of the mind...

People dont fuck minds. Minds do not dictate how attractive someone is. Also lets not pretend as if half this site cant construct a sentence worth a damn anyway. Still talking to 35+ year old women who use txt spk. Intellectual capacity cannot be determined by a couple pictures and a short profile on a swingers site.

Stop with the damn sycophancy. Its corny and unattractive. Your posts in this thread kind of reek of someone in need of female approval. There are too many men running around with that mindset.

A personal attack as you cannot see another person's point of view. Even though he has stated clearly he sees yours. So instead you begin to insult and name call to try and force that opposing opinion to be quiet... "

Is it name calling? I am really basing that last comment on the earliest statements you made in this thread. Where you insulted yourself. I've never understood why men come into this forum to insist that they're ugly/unattractive/undesired. Its that kind of self deprecation which seems to be more about appeasing and entertaining the womenfolk at your own expense. Never understood that kind of humor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I hate the attitude that people are on here because they can't pull in the real world. If a guy says something along those lines to me then i know we are completely different wavelengths and wouldn't bother replying. They clearly don't understand swinging and certainly wouldn't understand the dynamics of how swinging interacts with meeting one half of a married couple.

TBH I think women struggle on here struggle outside of Fab alot more than the men do (the good looking ones at least) hence the need for the projection.

Most of the women I see on Fab I genuinely wont look at twice outside of here. Sounds harsh, but its the truth. Fab gives older, less "traditionally attrative" women a chance as the ratios are in their favor and they dont have to compete with hotter, twenty-somethings who frequent apps like Tinder.

I find it incredibly rich when women are either overweight or not in any particular good shape ask for "gym fit hotties". It reeks of a lack of self awareness and immense entitlement. Henceforth why I dont meet someone who isnt also keen on keeping fit and if they dont? I damn sure wont travel to another city to see them either.

That's like saying a black person should only play with other blacks, short people with short people etc. Do you notice couples out and about in general? Do you notice thin men with huge wives? Petite women with bear like husbands? Able bodied with partners in wheelchairs?

People like what they like and Fab is no different. I'm more Monique than Halle Berry but my other half is a cross between Bruce Willis and Jason Statham...all 6ft 1 of him with his martial arts background and toned body. We met on here.

TBH it has been scientifically proven that like does indeed attract like...even in other races. Vast majority of couples are of similar attractiveness, socioeconomic bracket, income, lifestyle and race. But this is not really the issue.

There is a real double standard going on here. When physically less attractive men desire partners who are physically attractive, they're berated for it. Somehow with women, this is a-okay.

I also dont think people "like what they like", I tend to think people "like what they can". As stated, the gender ratios favor women which means that men will be more liberal about who they meet. But that doesnt mean it says anything about what these people actually desire. And it shows, when I go to cinemas, gyms, restaurants...I see who is dating who. People tend to stick with those who are of similar interests or attractiveness levels. Therefore a working class woman shouldnt cry when she cant get a rich man, a fat guy shouldnt cry when he cant get a slim, attractive women and vice-versa. Thats it really.

I have had some oddball reactions when people notice I dont reply, its like they feel I am supposed to be jumping for joy at the possibility of sex because they have a vagina. Thats what this thread seems to be kind of getting at too, that the attractive men are on here because they need to be. I mean, how is that not a generalization?

You tend to look at people in a physical way.. I think we all understand this, no doubt your success in finding like minded bodies to delight in speaks for itself. But I am afraid you are being one-dimensional... now for some that's enough... however some people can go beyond the purely physical. Take for example a bdsm relationship; here the mental stimuli is more important...

You seem to have a "beef" that single guys are tarnished and viewed as desperate; unfortunately that's the way fab is... you are right to exercise choice but all of your comments regarding this are based on a base form of pure physical attraction and deny the existence of anything more than this... some people think outside the box.

Pure physical attration drives this site. Hence why women and couples often request that people leave "codewords" to show they actually read the worded portion of their profiles. I mean, you're actually sitting here trying to convince me that this is not the case. What world do you live in? Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks. Alot of the profiles are completely empty. Same for the women, the most fabbed are the most attractive...the most "porno friendly" looking profiles.

Tinder's success came from completely forgoing the profile thing altogether. Looks come before alot on here. I have actually found that writing any kind of profile is pointless as no one reads it.

And this is your experience... in the 5+ years I have been on and off fab, I beg to differ. BUT please stop with the "I am right you are wrong" stuff. I meet all kinds of people, of all shapes and sizes and hell they meet me too... this site is an adventure... adventures are usually found down paths you don't normally go...for whatever reason. Most fabbed? Means nothing. MOST verified? means nothing. IF I added up all my verifications from the years I have been on and off here I guess I would be around 500 or so... does that make me attractive or desperate? NO. It makes me open minded. It's a swinging site. Bring an open mind or doors tend to close."

You mean 500 social meets yes?

I also noticed that alot of women here have their "social" veris and their "sexual" veries. Oh...how they differ

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"the amount of messages you get does denote how desirable you are, maybe not how attractive though. depends why they're messaging you also.

i used to get a lot of messages on POF until i stated on my profile that i won't be having sex with anyone i date because i'm not going without sex now and am not desperate. 0 messages ever since, really.

so men maybe thought i was on there because i was desperate, this wouldn't make me attractive lol but would make me desirable to dickheads.

This is actually a good way of putting it. Desire is not attractiveness."

attractiveness is subjective anyway, it's also why i can easily ignore (or even feel threatened by or manipulated by) men who like to give out the compliments and pile on the charm. it's just their opinion on me.

my own opinions about myself should matter more, and i can somewhat base that on others opinions only if they are genuine and don't want anything from me. so yeah i wouldn't base that on anything online tbf.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You mean 500 social meets yes?

I also noticed that alot of women here have their "social" veris and their "sexual" veries. Oh...how they differ "

Oh Superfreak, I get it now. You're envious because you've had no Fab veris social or otherwise? Is that where the resentment you say you have is coming from? Bless. You'll find someone like you eventually. Don't feel bad.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I've never understood why men come into this forum to insist that they're ugly/unattractive/undesired. Its that kind of self deprecation which seems to be more about appeasing and entertaining the womenfolk at your own expense. Never understood that kind of humor. "

Maybe they just own that self awareness about their looks you was moaning about women lacking earlier

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"

Is it name calling? I am really basing that last comment on the earliest statements you made in this thread. Where you insulted yourself. I've never understood why men come into this forum to insist that they're ugly/unattractive/undesired. Its that kind of self deprecation which seems to be more about appeasing and entertaining the womenfolk at your own expense. Never understood that kind of humor. "

Maybe it was just modesty - ever heard of that lol?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You mean 500 social meets yes?

I also noticed that alot of women here have their "social" veris and their "sexual" veries. Oh...how they differ

Oh Superfreak, I get it now. You're envious because you've had no Fab veris social or otherwise? Is that where the resentment you say you have is coming from? Bless. You'll find someone like you eventually. Don't feel bad. "

Thats right. I am jealous that I dont have veris from "curvy" women like you. Thats it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Is it name calling? I am really basing that last comment on the earliest statements you made in this thread. Where you insulted yourself. I've never understood why men come into this forum to insist that they're ugly/unattractive/undesired. Its that kind of self deprecation which seems to be more about appeasing and entertaining the womenfolk at your own expense. Never understood that kind of humor.

Maybe it was just modesty - ever heard of that lol?"

The men seem to partake in all the modesty. Enough for both genders. Thats the point. I dont need to see thousands of men telling us all how average/unattractive they are. Partly because its kinda boring now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well, this turned into an interesting thread...

As to the opening post, I think there is an insinuation here, and in other threads, that people only come on this site because they are lacking in some way in person. That may well be the case for some people, but I don't think it is the case for the majority of people.

I think most people, including fit men, use this site in addition to other means of achieving a desired end, namely, having sex with people they are attracted to. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks. "

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't attract male attention in real life. The last time I got chatted up in a bar was 5 years ago. I'm not the right size, not the right shape, not the right clothes, not the right look. I'm fine with all that, I'm married and have no desire to pull.

On here, I get loads of attention. I'm not stupid enough to attribute that to anything other than a severe shortage of youngish women. I don't require or demand "gym fit", 6 pack adonises. My only real requirements are for men to be tall, and not a cunt.

But I don't see why I should have to turn down someone conventionally good looking who messages me if I like them, just in the interests of "balance" and like only meeting like, just because some other bloke is bitter about the fact desperate men have overinflated the egos of a few women on here.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"

Is it name calling? I am really basing that last comment on the earliest statements you made in this thread. Where you insulted yourself. I've never understood why men come into this forum to insist that they're ugly/unattractive/undesired. Its that kind of self deprecation which seems to be more about appeasing and entertaining the womenfolk at your own expense. Never understood that kind of humor.

Maybe it was just modesty - ever heard of that lol?

The men seem to partake in all the modesty. Enough for both genders. Thats the point. I dont need to see thousands of men telling us all how average/unattractive they are. Partly because its kinda boring now. "

As boring as men telling us how fit and attractive they deem themselves??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't attract male attention in real life. The last time I got chatted up in a bar was 5 years ago. I'm not the right size, not the right shape, not the right clothes, not the right look. I'm fine with all that, I'm married and have no desire to pull.

On here, I get loads of attention. I'm not stupid enough to attribute that to anything other than a severe shortage of youngish women. I don't require or demand "gym fit", 6 pack adonises. My only real requirements are for men to be tall, and not a cunt.

But I don't see why I should have to turn down someone conventionally good looking who messages me if I like them, just in the interests of "balance" and like only meeting like, just because some other bloke is bitter about the fact desperate men have overinflated the egos of a few women on here. "

Absolutely.

Good to see ya!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't attract male attention in real life. The last time I got chatted up in a bar was 5 years ago. I'm not the right size, not the right shape, not the right clothes, not the right look. I'm fine with all that, I'm married and have no desire to pull.

On here, I get loads of attention. I'm not stupid enough to attribute that to anything other than a severe shortage of youngish women. I don't require or demand "gym fit", 6 pack adonises. My only real requirements are for men to be tall, and not a cunt.

But I don't see why I should have to turn down someone conventionally good looking who messages me if I like them, just in the interests of "balance" and like only meeting like, just because some other bloke is bitter about the fact desperate men have overinflated the egos of a few women on here. "

I get hundreds of messages a week from all types of men, old, young, fat, thin

I'm also awear that most of the young fit guys wouldnt look twice at me in the street but that's ok because I don't eye up young fit guys in the street either

But regardless if a guy mails me and I like him I will mail him back and meet if we get along regardless of whether other people think he's out of my league or not

At the end of the day it's only the buisness of me and who I'm meeting, why anybody else would give a shit about the standard of men I meet is beyond me

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"I don't attract male attention in real life. The last time I got chatted up in a bar was 5 years ago. I'm not the right size, not the right shape, not the right clothes, not the right look. I'm fine with all that, I'm married and have no desire to pull.

On here, I get loads of attention. I'm not stupid enough to attribute that to anything other than a severe shortage of youngish women. I don't require or demand "gym fit", 6 pack adonises. My only real requirements are for men to be tall, and not a cunt.

But I don't see why I should have to turn down someone conventionally good looking who messages me if I like them, just in the interests of "balance" and like only meeting like, just because some other bloke is bitter about the fact desperate men have overinflated the egos of a few women on here. "

I've missed you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here). "

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You mean 500 social meets yes?

I also noticed that alot of women here have their "social" veris and their "sexual" veries. Oh...how they differ

Oh Superfreak, I get it now. You're envious because you've had no Fab veris social or otherwise? Is that where the resentment you say you have is coming from? Bless. You'll find someone like you eventually. Don't feel bad.

Thats right. I am jealous that I dont have veris from "curvy" women like you. Thats it.

"

You seem angry.. I don't know about jealous... as for my tongue in cheek modesty... well. 500+ social meets, sure if you like...

You deny the existence of anything more than a physical attraction on fab and say that anyone that believes otherwise is either desperate or a fool. BE Alpha... if it works for you. I will be who I am.. no more or less.

Happy swinging

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged. "

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But I don't see why I should have to turn down someone conventionally good looking who messages me if I like them, just in the interests of "balance" and like only meeting like, just because some other bloke is bitter about the fact desperate men have overinflated the egos of a few women on here. "

Where has anyone said that you have to turn down anything? I explicitly said that women should not complain about not "meeting their type", its the exact same thing as the men who whinge on here about "having no luck".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We are here like any other, just cos we dedicate our life to have the best body, doesn't mean we are different than the average guy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged. "

I've seen profiles asking for exactly those kinds of attributes. My own "demands" tall, articulate men, nothing more than that.

The way you present your profile determines a lot of the messages you get. If your profile elicits responses that are 90% appearance based, perhaps that's the logical outcome of your profile and how you present yourself.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation! "

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

to dear to go out wining and dining clubbing etc these days, plus everyones working long hours so fabs the new social life.........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

I've seen profiles asking for exactly those kinds of attributes. My own "demands" tall, articulate men, nothing more than that.

The way you present your profile determines a lot of the messages you get. If your profile elicits responses that are 90% appearance based, perhaps that's the logical outcome of your profile and how you present yourself. "

Hmmm, cant say I agree. My profile does not delve to deeply into my physical expectations of others. Did you actually read it?

Also realize that the forums dont really reflect the preferences or experiences of much of the rest of the site.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared "

You may dislike her wording but she's correct. You were correct above, like generally attracts like. It sounds like you're attracting angry, ranty, demanding, offensive people...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared "

Nope, they're still there. You do make me laugh, so thank you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

I've seen profiles asking for exactly those kinds of attributes. My own "demands" tall, articulate men, nothing more than that.

The way you present your profile determines a lot of the messages you get. If your profile elicits responses that are 90% appearance based, perhaps that's the logical outcome of your profile and how you present yourself.

Hmmm, cant say I agree. My profile does not delve to deeply into my physical expectations of others. Did you actually read it?

Also realize that the forums dont really reflect the preferences or experiences of much of the rest of the site."

It was a bit too long. I didn't really get past the SHOUTY CAPITALS and depiction of yourself as some sort of human dildo.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared

You may dislike her wording but she's correct. You were correct above, like generally attracts like. It sounds like you're attracting angry, ranty, demanding, offensive people..."

I attract all kinds. Not so much ranty and offensive, but indecisive and picky. I dont base my judgement from my inbox, more so my reading of other peoples profiles. I like looking around on here alot. Alot of the profiles I read are self absorbed. Not all, by an stretch of the imagination...but alot.

I also notice that when you go against the "all women on fab are awesome" groupthink on here, you're suddenly a terrible, shouty and aggressive person.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared

You may dislike her wording but she's correct. You were correct above, like generally attracts like. It sounds like you're attracting angry, ranty, demanding, offensive people..."

Yup. I have to admit I am being lazy with my phrasing and rather rude today. My apologies. The points being made are just so vacuous.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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It was a bit too long. "

Another intellectually challenged fabber, what else is new

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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"

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged. "

I think you are the one who lacks awareness hun - fab is not about one off meets for me, no, I don't enjoy those much anymore. I like regular meets with people over months or years, I find them much more fulfilling.

Yes, physical aspects may initally attract me enough to start talking, but hot tottie is ten a penny on here, it's something else that makes me choose to meet someone, and a WHOLE other agenda that keeps me meeting them for years.

And you are wrong about the self-deprecating - some men who do that have women throw themselves at them constantly and are never short of a meet. Perhaps you should try it?? I suspect 90% of your inbox don't give a shit about anything else because of the way you 'market' yourself as a typical stereotype BBC - you are attracting precisely what you are getting.

You used words like 'Narcissist'and 'Worship of your form' and you are surprised people are not interested in your personality. Really??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

It was a bit too long.

Another intellectually challenged fabber, what else is new "

Why the need for insults like this? I really don't get it. Do you think this type of comeback is the sign of intellectual debate? Because I don't.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared

You may dislike her wording but she's correct. You were correct above, like generally attracts like. It sounds like you're attracting angry, ranty, demanding, offensive people...

I attract all kinds. Not so much ranty and offensive, but indecisive and picky. I dont base my judgement from my inbox, more so my reading of other peoples profiles. I like looking around on here alot. Alot of the profiles I read are self absorbed. Not all, by an stretch of the imagination...but alot.

I also notice that when you go against the "all women on fab are awesome" groupthink on here, you're suddenly a terrible, shouty and aggressive person."

I look around a lot too. I'm very nosy. I check out the competition. I don't mean the forums, I mean the wider site. I've been around a couple of years watching and it's clear from profiles and status updates and the like that people generally court the attention they deserve.

Of course all women on fab aren't awesome, there are some fucking awful, horrible women on this site. But in my experience you're generally labelled an aggressive person for being massively aggressive, rather than for pointing out this "daring" fact.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Pure physical attration drives this site. ..... Look at the successful profiles, the ones people gravitate to. Literally. The "most fabs". They're all muscular and packing big dicks.

Ah, I see where you are talking at crossed purposes - the most fabbed are not the most successful at anything other than getting the most fabs, and the most fabbed male pics are most fabbed by other males!! If attracting the admiration of gay men is their aim then maybe that is the most success!!

But I am talking about the most sexual, mental, and emotional fulfillment from sexual liaisons, and that is NOT based on solely physical attraction for me (nor many people on here).

This is what I mean. This lack of awareness in general.

OK lets remove the "most fabbed" list (even though it tend to correlate with the likelihood of frequent sexual experiences on here) and lets look at what this site is. One off experiences/brief flings with men and women of similar interests (unless we're going to pretend Fab is actually a site for dating now ).

YOU are the exception. And that is based on the fact that most of the profiles here are very specific about the physical requirements of their mates...not the sexual/intellectual ones.

When I see profiles saying:

-BDSM/kink lovers only

-Book readers only

-Sexually experienced men desired

-Open minded men welcome

They may be treated like desirable traits, even expectations. But lets not pretend as if the physical look of the person does not figure very largely in the desire to meet people. As said, I notice the guys who talk about how awful looking they are have much in the way social veris and lacking in others...because that lack of self belief tends to carry itself into the bedroom.

As said, all this talk of emotional and intellectual connections are rich. My inbox reflects that 90% of people couldnt care less about what people have to say, if they did then they probably would never have messaged.

Well exactly, you're not coming across as intellectual or emotionally intelligent hence no-one is messaging you with that expectation!

Whatever makes you feel better at your little pre-emptive attempt at rejecting someone who would never have been attracted to you in the first place.

Surprise, surprise your pictures have disappeared

You may dislike her wording but she's correct. You were correct above, like generally attracts like. It sounds like you're attracting angry, ranty, demanding, offensive people...

Yup. I have to admit I am being lazy with my phrasing and rather rude today. My apologies. The points being made are just so vacuous. "

Vacuous? Becuse I touched on the subject of youth, weight and attractivness?

Overweight women on here are seen as easy pickings. Nothing more and nothing less. If stating the obvious makes me overweight, so be it. But I find it rich when Fabbers seem to want to bend reality and convince me that they have legions of partners who love them for who they are, instead of the fact that they'll every kind of lie in order to get in an easy shag.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

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It was a bit too long. I didn't really get past the SHOUTY CAPITALS and depiction of yourself as some sort of human dildo. "

Haha, you say it more succinctly than me. The man with the shouty entitled profile comes on a thread to complain about the women with shouty entitled profiles that message him.

I think I'll go test my new mattress out instead......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

It was a bit too long.

Another intellectually challenged fabber, what else is new."

Guilty as charged. I don't have the brain capacity to waste reading paragraph after paragraph of drivel when all I needed to know was in the header.

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