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So. What happens if you are 'Caught' on here by your employer?
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Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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By *itzhallMan
over a year ago
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I have a friend that works on the railway, his bosses found out and he very nearly lost his job..... he had to delete his profile or he was going to be sacked . Some companies trawl certain sites looking for employees that they suspect are up to no good |
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over a year ago
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"Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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Depends what your contract of employment says. If there are notices about bringing the company into disrepute, tarnishing their reputation, causing embarrassment etc you'd be on very dodgy ground..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You're entitled to a private life but equally mustn't bring your profession into disrepute. So no broadcasting what you do on your profile and definitely no pics at work or in uniform. |
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By *ynecplCouple
over a year ago
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Depends both on what policies the company has regarding social media and more importantly can your profile be linked to your employer. Don't mention who you work for and certainly don't post pictures in your uniform if you have one and in reality there is little the company can do. |
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As far as I'm concerned they don't own me , I have a private life . As long as I turn up on time , leave on time and do my job properly that's all it has to do with them . We have played with teachers nurses policemen secretaries truckers . As far as we care we are just having fun , .you only live once so you may as well enjoy yourself as long as your not hurting anyone ??  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Guy who works for my company was named and shamed for wanking in public and didn't get sacked being on here shouldn't be a problem after that
But then again he was high up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What you do in private can affect your job, it's pretty naive to think otherwise.
Check your contract / working practice code, is there anything about social media usage? |
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"As far as I'm concerned they don't own me , I have a private life . As long as I turn up on time , leave on time and do my job properly that's all it has to do with them . We have played with teachers nurses policemen secretaries truckers . As far as we care we are just having fun , .you only live once so you may as well enjoy yourself as long as your not hurting anyone ?? "
I work in employment law. I retire in three weeks aged 56, after earning enough money from people like you, who naively think they can say and do anything they like outside work.
On another thread about this someone posted they work for the department of works and pensions. If they had their employment on their Facebook page and a picture of themselves with their DWP lanyard posting "I hate immigrants" they'd be sacked for bringing their employer into disrepute. |
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"What you do in private can affect your job, it's pretty naive to think otherwise.
Check your contract / working practice code, is there anything about social media usage?"
Some people really are naive. Every day my colleagues and I shake our heads at some of the cases that cross our desks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"What you do in private can affect your job, it's pretty naive to think otherwise.
Check your contract / working practice code, is there anything about social media usage?
Some people really are naive. Every day my colleagues and I shake our heads at some of the cases that cross our desks."
I bet you do!
Sounds like an interesting job  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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An old employed had a problem with me being poly, and they discovered that I also went to sex clubs on the weekend.
They tried to intimidate me out of my job.
I called their bluff - and followed the grievance procedure in the company handbook against HR themselves.
I came out the other side quite sucessfuly, as I proved that being poly and going to sex clubs made absolutely no difference to my job.
Know your contract. Know your employee handbook. Know your legal rights. Most importantly - know exactly how constructive dismissal works (and be prepared to hand your notice in the moment that they threaten you so that you can start a claim at court). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Really gets my back up,this.
If you are not flaunting your company or bringing them into disrepute.
What the hell does it have to do with them what you do in your private life.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Really gets my back up,this.
If you are not flaunting your company or bringing them into disrepute.
What the hell does it have to do with them what you do in your private life.
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Exactly, if you found out your boss was a cross dresser would you threaten him out of the job? |
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"Really gets my back up,this.
If you are not flaunting your company or bringing them into disrepute.
What the hell does it have to do with them what you do in your private life.
Exactly, if you found out your boss was a cross dresser would you threaten him out of the job?"
I wouldn't, but some would - that's the problem. |
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"Guy who works for my company was named and shamed for wanking in public and didn't get sacked being on here shouldn't be a problem after that
But then again he was high up "
High up when caught wanking ? What is he a trapeze artist |
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Look at the teacher who got sacked for putting some pictures she had done in a photo shoot on her Facebook page, they showed her in lingerie and in some very sexual poses. Nothing was showing just the poses. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As far as I'm concerned they don't own me , I have a private life . As long as I turn up on time , leave on time and do my job properly that's all it has to do with them . We have played with teachers nurses policemen secretaries truckers . As far as we care we are just having fun , .you only live once so you may as well enjoy yourself as long as your not hurting anyone ?? "
This!!! |
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"Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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Your job would only be at risk if you post sufficient information on here to be readily identified .
Employers would only be concerned if you identified their organisation or accessed a site of this nature on a works pc . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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All of the comments on this thread, plus the recent story in the papers about that police officer have convinced me that enough is enough. I certainly don't wish to jeopardise my current job, plus with me in the next stages of being shortlisted for two jobs that I'm applying for, I certainly don't want to risk that either.
Therefore all my pics have now been set to private. I may have to consider leaving Fab altogether which is something I don't want to do, but my job is my financial means of paying my bills and supporting my two year son.
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"What you do in private can affect your job, it's pretty naive to think otherwise.
Check your contract / working practice code, is there anything about social media usage?
Some people really are naive. Every day my colleagues and I shake our heads at some of the cases that cross our desks.
I bet you do!
Sounds like an interesting job "
Never a dull moment: I will miss it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We have face pics in 'friends' gallery. But we feel that those on our 'friends' list looking at our pictures don't know where we work (unless they were a very good friend and we chose to tell them). So the way we see it, our face pics are just random pictures that could have come from anywhere, and are unrelated to our jobs.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As far as I'm concerned they don't own me , I have a private life . As long as I turn up on time , leave on time and do my job properly that's all it has to do with them . We have played with teachers nurses policemen secretaries truckers . As far as we care we are just having fun , .you only live once so you may as well enjoy yourself as long as your not hurting anyone ??
I work in employment law. I retire in three weeks aged 56, after earning enough money from people like you, who naively think they can say and do anything they like outside work.
On another thread about this someone posted they work for the department of works and pensions.
If they had their employment on their Facebook page and a picture of themselves with their DWP lanyard posting "I hate immigrants" they'd be sacked for bringing their employer into disrepute. "
Nailed it.......
The naivety of some people beggars belief.
Actually I don't think it's naivety, it's a combination of arrogance and ignorance.
Demonstrated perfectly in this very thread.......
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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago
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"Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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I'm my own boss but I'm still careful no face pictures in my public gallery as it would most likely cost me some customers if it got out .
the problem with fab is its to well know two of my regular play partners would never join here for that reason alone the both work in the kind of job where there are very very strict rules on social media sites .
both have very good but stressful jobs with great pension plans both are about 10 years off of being able to take early retirement with full pensions.
so with that in mind they would never join fab for the reason I've already listed .
I'm on here and if we ever want a third I'm the one who will and does organise that sort of fun for the reasons I've already given and to save them the hassle of doing it you know sorting out the fuckwits from the genuine . |
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I'd first be offered help as a sexual deviant and sexaholic. I could be suspended but that is where it would stop as they wouldn't want to discriminate against the lgbt crowd they have been shouting their support of.
It's if they made it public to my colleagues where things could get sticky  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This happened to me when I was on the guys site. I went into work and someone had printed my profile out and put on a staff noticeboard with 'who would have thought' printed above it. The pics I had displayed publicly were also printed, which showed the direct web page address.
I was called into a meeting with management and HR and they had also contacted my union rep to attend. I was read the root act, mainly due to displaying my verifications and the fact they were explicit.
Long story short, I was suspended pending further enquiries, on full pay. The HR manager was a friend and I was told I faced my contract being terminated, but she said if my profile disappeared, they could do nothing, but that they would be checking if it was still online.
I deleted my profile and had 9 days on gardening leave. I was reinstated with a first written warning. The advice given was "not to undertake any such action that has cause to bring (employer) into disrepute, nor cause members of the public to question my integrity."
Not a nice experience at all. My friend in HR though said that they dealt with hundreds of similar cases each year.
I work for a large, public sector employer, in Education. |
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"This happened to me when I was on the guys site. I went into work and someone had printed my profile out and put on a staff noticeboard with 'who would have thought' printed above it. The pics I had displayed publicly were also printed, which showed the direct web page address.
I was called into a meeting with management and HR and they had also contacted my union rep to attend. I was read the root act, mainly due to displaying my verifications and the fact they were explicit.
Long story short, I was suspended pending further enquiries, on full pay. The HR manager was a friend and I was told I faced my contract being terminated, but she said if my profile disappeared, they could do nothing, but that they would be checking if it was still online.
I deleted my profile and had 9 days on gardening leave. I was reinstated with a first written warning. The advice given was "not to undertake any such action that has cause to bring (employer) into disrepute, nor cause members of the public to question my integrity."
Not a nice experience at all. My friend in HR though said that they dealt with hundreds of similar cases each year.
I work for a large, public sector employer, in Education. "
may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the arse of whoever did such a thing..
slimy feckin urggggh.. |
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over a year ago
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may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the arse of whoever did such a thing..
slimy feckin urggggh.."
The vast majority of my friends in work have been fantastic about it, and approached management expressing their concerns about the integrity of someone who would do such a thing.
My best (female) friend has gone all Nancy Drew and has narrowed it down to three possibles, one of whom I'd once rebuffed at a works do.
Its been a really fun year in work lol |
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may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the arse of whoever did such a thing..
slimy feckin urggggh..
The vast majority of my friends in work have been fantastic about it, and approached management expressing their concerns about the integrity of someone who would do such a thing.
My best (female) friend has gone all Nancy Drew and has narrowed it down to three possibles, one of whom I'd once rebuffed at a works do.
Its been a really fun year in work lol"
good that the decent one's have rallied around you..
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I do know of someone in the public sector who was relieved of his duties after bringing the profession into disrepute..... "
I'd guess that person was a member of a profession with an ethics and standards committee? eg Nursing, Teaching? My profession, doesn't currently have one, but will do so in the near future. |
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over a year ago
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I'm going to use the DIY furniture store MFI as an example since they no longer exist.
What if a single male MFI employee with a fab profile had face pics in his public gallery but with no text or photos linking him to MFI. This male is then becomes the face for MFI's tv commercial campaign as he is a damn good salesman and looks good on camera.
Is this male now sackable? I would argue yes since he may not have stated he worked for MFI or taken photographs of himself in uniform but he is recognisable due to the TV campaign. He can therefore cause embarrassment to MFI and bring the job into disrepute.
The moral here is that even if you don't identify your employers, you can still get sacked.
What if a teacher does not identify themselves in terms of their profession but a parent lodges a complaint?
Lock your profiles and careful who you accept as a friend of your private gallery has face pics |
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By (user no longer on site)
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may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the arse of whoever did such a thing..
slimy feckin urggggh..
The vast majority of my friends in work have been fantastic about it, and approached management expressing their concerns about the integrity of someone who would do such a thing.
My best (female) friend has gone all Nancy Drew and has narrowed it down to three possibles, one of whom I'd once rebuffed at a works do.
Its been a really fun year in work lol
good that the decent one's have rallied around you..
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Yes, I've got a very supportive circle, several of my very best friends have come about from being work colleagues.
My best friend, whom I mentioned, was like "we are supposed to be enlightened people and empowering others to achieve whatever potential they wish for themselves and someone amongst us is this judgmental?"
It made my cigarette breaks very interesting when I returned to work that first week! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What you do in private can affect your job, it's pretty naive to think otherwise.
Check your contract / working practice code, is there anything about social media usage?
Some people really are naive. Every day my colleagues and I shake our heads at some of the cases that cross our desks."
I'm not following here if someone plays in their private life without using their job or statues in anyway then hw does it affect their job.
Wouldn't this fall into the same category as being gay in the army as long as ure not shaging ur way through the platoon or letting it affect ur decisions at work then ur private life is ur own. And them disqualifying them would come under unfair dismissal.  |
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I'm glad I'm at the bottom of the food chain at work, so nobody gives a damn what I get up to. Plus there's so much shagging and cheating going on there, management would probably be confused by the idea of someone doing this kinda thing out of work. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The other option is, of course, to become so necessary to the company that you can't be replaced.
One of my partners (not the one linked on my profile, if you're being nosey) has a very, very good career working for large state funded organisations. He still puts face pictures here and on fetish sites. Why? There's very few people with his skillset. They can't get rid of him... |
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All this talk about bringing ones profession into disrepute, how is this the case when the majority of folk on here are doing nothing illegal? A couple (or single) meeting up with similar people for at worst, sex, is now considered so wrong? My take on it is those who consider it wrong or immoral are just shallow. |
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"I'm going to use the DIY furniture store MFI as an example since they no longer exist.
What if a single male MFI employee with a fab profile had face pics in his public gallery but with no text or photos linking him to MFI. This male is then becomes the face for MFI's tv commercial campaign as he is a damn good salesman and looks good on camera.
Is this male now sackable? I would argue yes since he may not have stated he worked for MFI or taken photographs of himself in uniform but he is recognisable due to the TV campaign. He can therefore cause embarrassment to MFI and bring the job into disrepute.
The moral here is that even if you don't identify your employers, you can still get sacked.
What if a teacher does not identify themselves in terms of their profession but a parent lodges a complaint?
Lock your profiles and careful who you accept as a friend of your private gallery has face pics"
Yes I guess in that situation, that man would need to take down any public pictures that are recognisable as the 'face of MFI'. That situation is probably more realistic for actors employed in advertising campaigns, as opposed to the actually employees themselves. I'm sure if there are any professional actors on Fab who appear on television especially commercials, or celebrities, they would need to be very careful that their pictures are not obviously recognisable as pictures that may appear on TV and the press. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"All this talk about bringing ones profession into disrepute, how is this the case when the majority of folk on here are doing nothing illegal? A couple (or single) meeting up with similar people for at worst, sex, is now considered so wrong? My take on it is those who consider it wrong or immoral are just shallow. "
Your take on it is unfortunately not the point.
It's nothing to do with swinging being illegal.
It's about how your private proclivities could affect the public face of your employer.
I'm consistently baffled about how people miss this point...... |
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"All this talk about bringing ones profession into disrepute, how is this the case when the majority of folk on here are doing nothing illegal? A couple (or single) meeting up with similar people for at worst, sex, is now considered so wrong? My take on it is those who consider it wrong or immoral are just shallow.
Your take on it is unfortunately not the point.
It's nothing to do with swinging being illegal.
It's about how your private proclivities could affect the public face of your employer.
I'm consistently baffled about how people miss this point......"
I guess it's one of those things that's hard to understand until it happens to you, or somebody you know. |
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"Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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I bet the employer is on FAB too.. just whisper "i wont tell if you don't" end it with a wink  on your way out the door lol |
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"All this talk about bringing ones profession into disrepute, how is this the case when the majority of folk on here are doing nothing illegal? A couple (or single) meeting up with similar people for at worst, sex, is now considered so wrong? My take on it is those who consider it wrong or immoral are just shallow.
Your take on it is unfortunately not the point.
It's nothing to do with swinging being illegal.
It's about how your private proclivities could affect the public face of your employer.
I'm consistently baffled about how people miss this point......
I guess it's one of those things that's hard to understand until it happens to you, or somebody you know. "
Yup...... |
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"All this talk about bringing ones profession into disrepute, how is this the case when the majority of folk on here are doing nothing illegal? A couple (or single) meeting up with similar people for at worst, sex, is now considered so wrong? My take on it is those who consider it wrong or immoral are just shallow. "
 I dont think anyone has said that what anyone doing on fab. is illegal.
However employers expect their enployees to use discretion and common sense . Employers would not want their staff openly linking themselves to a swinging site. How many people would want either their families or close friends knowing they were members of this site . ?
Some of lifes activities are best kept private . |
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Employers generally have way, way, way too much power over people who just happen to be paid to work for them imo. Anything more than paid recompense for labour virtually is tantamount to slavery and being owned. |
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My nickname at work is "swingerman". That goes all the way up to the md...... I to,d them what I do on interview..... the answer was "top man". Two other employees joined the site later (both ladies). Neither are still with the company....but one is still on fab.
I'm not in a job where it would matter much either way but I have introduced one customer to the site (we were fb for a while....but I also introduced her to her now husband). I've also come across another customer on the site.
Different jobs need different levels of discretion I suppose. |
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"My nickname at work is "swingerman". That goes all the way up to the md...... I to,d them what I do on interview..... the answer was "top man". Two other employees joined the site later (both ladies). Neither are still with the company....but one is still on fab.
I'm not in a job where it would matter much either way but I have introduced one customer to the site (we were fb for a while....but I also introduced her to her now husband). I've also come across another customer on the site.
Different jobs need different levels of discretion I suppose."
Why would anyone choose to discuss swinging at a job interview..? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If i was using work property it would be an issue. I work for a large multi national company but there should be no come back IMO unless i'm on her spouting that my opinion and my actions are representative of that company |
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"All this talk about bringing ones profession into disrepute, how is this the case when the majority of folk on here are doing nothing illegal? A couple (or single) meeting up with similar people for at worst, sex, is now considered so wrong? My take on it is those who consider it wrong or immoral are just shallow. "
pointing out what is the reality in some occupations is far from shallow, its simply how it is..
if that reality offends then so be it but trust me taking someone through a discipline process where their job was on the line for something similar to what the thread is about you get to see the stress and fear that wasn't necessary let alone what it does to relationships.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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A number of proffessions fall under the requirement to follow a code of conduct, particularly those that are considered to be in a position of trust.
If you're percieved to not be following the ethos of the code of conduct, or compromising that position of trust, you can be fairly sure you'll be out of that profession.  |
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By *rallvalCouple
over a year ago
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I have a risk of disciplinary action (not that kind!) but I think it is an archaic view I would be inclined to invoke the company rules on diversity and inclusion. While swinging may not be a sexuality I think that multiple partners of all identifying genders and sexualities may pop us into the diversity and inclusion area.
I think that my management would run away from the whiff of being the named manager in a lost test case.
Mind you they could then try to get me on any other thing possible. |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
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I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging."
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them. It's a subtle difference. |
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If that happened to me then I would:-
1) remind my boss that I don't have a contract of employment.
2) I would remind my boss of the d*unken times when he wanted my wife to suck his cock (now my ex)
3) I would remind my boss that I am very good at doing my job
4)I would simply say the following "You can't bullshit a bullshitter".
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them. It's a subtle difference. "
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"My nickname at work is "swingerman". That goes all the way up to the md...... I to,d them what I do on interview..... the answer was "top man". Two other employees joined the site later (both ladies). Neither are still with the company....but one is still on fab.
I'm not in a job where it would matter much either way but I have introduced one customer to the site (we were fb for a while....but I also introduced her to her now husband). I've also come across another customer on the site.
Different jobs need different levels of discretion I suppose. Why would anyone choose to discuss swinging at a job interview..? "
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One of my jobs, I had to sign a form in my employee contract stating that I can't (in a nutshell) badmouth or tarnish the image of the business on any social media or similar website. I work for a restaurant that is majority owned by a popular television chef, so I'm a little weary on showing my face on here. My other job is self employed so I wouldn't give a damn if it wasn't for my first. |
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"Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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As recent news articles go- if you are a police officer you get fired. |
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As I work nights and in a wear house I would hope no one would care what I get up to on my days off lol
Also when I worked some where else in the days a lady who I worked with was a known swinger but that was maybe 8 years ago not sure how it would go down now |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have a risk of disciplinary action (not that kind!) but I think it is an archaic view I would be inclined to invoke the company rules on diversity and inclusion. While swinging may not be a sexuality I think that multiple partners of all identifying genders and sexualities may pop us into the diversity and inclusion area.
I think that my management would run away from the whiff of being the named manager in a lost test case.
Mind you they could then try to get me on any other thing possible."
Having multiple partners *is not* a protected characteristic in law. You wouldn't get far with that argument. |
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By *sym45Man
over a year ago
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With a few exceptions,can't see why folks would get sacked.After all it's a Legal Site populated by consenting adults ! Needlesss to say if you have a sensitive Job,no face pics or other compromising details until you are sure !! |
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"My nickname at work is "swingerman". That goes all the way up to the md...... I to,d them what I do on interview..... the answer was "top man". Two other employees joined the site later (both ladies). Neither are still with the company....but one is still on fab.
I'm not in a job where it would matter much either way but I have introduced one customer to the site (we were fb for a while....but I also introduced her to her now husband). I've also come across another customer on the site.
Different jobs need different levels of discretion I suppose. Why would anyone choose to discuss swinging at a job interview..? "
The mind boggles.
I've chaired many an interview panel and attended a few myself. Not once in my life have I attended/chaired one where the candidates private, let alone sexual life has been discussed. |
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As others have said, it depends on your employer but I for one don't chance it. Even if they are pretty laissez faire generally, if you've hacked them off or just need to reduce the head count, finding you here would be all their dreams come true. |
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I've chaired many an interview panel and attended a few myself. Not once in my life have I attended/chaired one where the candidates private, let alone sexual life has been discussed. "
In the industry I previously worked in it was de rigueur to ask women candidates illegal questions about their private family life. |
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I would just tell the company to f@ck off and take my services else where , not breaking the law and playing with consenting adults and not cheating on wife . We know of loads of work colleagues who are shagging their way through the company's we both work for to get themselves promoted , both male and female , .if threatened by company I would tell them to concentrate on the druggies or alchi, s as they could cause more problems than an employer who legally enjoys having sex with others , in private at home or at a legally run venue , while not wearing company uniform on company premises or on company time  |
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I would think you may well have a case if you were challenged about your private life.
Euro human rights act.
"Article 8 – Right to respect for private and family life
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence".
Get it while the brexit is still warm |
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Surely what you do in your own time, is up to you!. None of anyone's business, not like your employers have never had sex at anytime in their life, this place is just for like minded people, where you know what your getting, just without all the bullshit and commitment. |
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I would just deny it. The pictures in our public galley are vague as to who they are. They could be us, but it can't be proven. My husband stumbled across a video on something like tumbler of a women giving a blowjob. He jokingly said 'I've got a bone to pick with you'. I had to do a double take. In fact I racked my brains as to whether it could have been me. She was identical to me down to her hair, eyes and facial expressions, and how I look when giving a blowjob. Her hands were different so I knew it wasn't me. She was in a car too and I know I've never done that in a car. The point is, if your boss says 'I found this picture of someone on a sex site and it looks like you', just say 'it looks like me, but it's not me - I've never been on a sex sure. Why were you on a sex site?' |
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"I have a friend that works on the railway, his bosses found out and he very nearly lost his job..... he had to delete his profile or he was going to be sacked . Some companies trawl certain sites looking for employees that they suspect are up to no good "
I'm having trouble understanding how consenting adults not breaking the law is "up to no good"
In my opinion everyone is entitled to privacy and the right to do as they please in their private life, as long as you're not putting photos on uniform or describing your job I can't see the problem. |
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By *fcdTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Surely what you do in your own time, is up to you!. None of anyone's business, not like your employers have never had sex at anytime in their life, this place is just for like minded people, where you know what your getting, just without all the bullshit and commitment."
Except if the Sun have you in a story with "Mr X who works for company Y in sex shame" then chances are you'll get fired or at least disciplined. I know my own firm VERY aggressively scans the Internet/web for anything involving staff names, possible inside information etc. I had a formal warning once for posting something on a bulletin board which they took exception to.
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Gill and I both worked in a large multi-national organisation. About 3 years ago she was informed that rumours had been circulating throughout the office that she was a regular attendee at local swingers club. The rumours became so strong that her job became intolerable and she consequently left.
We narrowed the source down to one guy who had "tried it on" with her and had been rejected.
I worked in a separate part of the organisation but when I got to know of it I "happened" to meet him in a quiet part of the company carpark one winters evening and asked him he had heard any of the rumours. I am 6ft 2ins and he is 5ft 6ins. Even from my height I could smell the fear. At least I think it was fear I could smell. He denied all knowledge but other people noticed he never commented on the rumour ever again.
We have taken the precaution of re-doing our profile with just a couple details changed.
We know that this does not address the legality of the position but sometimes straight forward confrontation can bring a swift resolution.
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By *ire boyMan
over a year ago
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if your using company equipment . ie . computer . laptop . network internet . your usage can be tracked via server . also its in company time .................... if HR get to know you will be suspended immediately they will do the tracking of your usage . it has no influence on usage . time spent . how often etc etc... you will be sacked for Gross Misconduct This then has an impact when going to the Job Centre . any future employer seeking a reference WILL be told of the reason for Dismissal ...... not nice |
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It shouldn't matter, but if it does, deny all knowledge. When they claim that they can see the profile, set up a spoof Facebook of your boss, post something fucking offensive, screen shot and present to them. That way you have just as much evidence of your bosses 'misconduct' as they do of yours.
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I've chaired many an interview panel and attended a few myself. Not once in my life have I attended/chaired one where the candidates private, let alone sexual life has been discussed.
In the industry I previously worked in it was de rigueur to ask women candidates illegal questions about their private family life."
I've lived a sheltered life. |
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"This happened to me when I was on the guys site. I went into work and someone had printed my profile out and put on a staff noticeboard with 'who would have thought' printed above it. The pics I had displayed publicly were also printed, which showed the direct web page address.
I was called into a meeting with management and HR and they had also contacted my union rep to attend. I was read the root act, mainly due to displaying my verifications and the fact they were explicit.
Long story short, I was suspended pending further enquiries, on full pay. The HR manager was a friend and I was told I faced my contract being terminated, but she said if my profile disappeared, they could do nothing, but that they would be checking if it was still online.
I deleted my profile and had 9 days on gardening leave. I was reinstated with a first written warning. The advice given was "not to undertake any such action that has cause to bring (employer) into disrepute, nor cause members of the public to question my integrity."
Not a nice experience at all. My friend in HR though said that they dealt with hundreds of similar cases each year.
I work for a large, public sector employer, in Education. "
A salutory tale, thanks!
But why do you have a face pic as your avatar after this experience? |
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"if your using company equipment . ie . computer . laptop . network internet . your usage can be tracked via server . also its in company time .................... if HR get to know you will be suspended immediately they will do the tracking of your usage . it has no influence on usage . time spent . how often etc etc... you will be sacked for Gross Misconduct This then has an impact when going to the Job Centre . any future employer seeking a reference WILL be told of the reason for Dismissal ...... not nice"
Well of course, using company computers and Internet server to gain access to Fab or similar, is entirely different than using your own phone with 3G or your own home internet in your own personal time. |
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"I have a friend that works on the railway, his bosses found out and he very nearly lost his job..... he had to delete his profile or he was going to be sacked . Some companies trawl certain sites looking for employees that they suspect are up to no good
I'm having trouble understanding how consenting adults not breaking the law is "up to no good"
In my opinion everyone is entitled to privacy and the right to do as they please in their private life, as long as you're not putting photos on uniform or describing your job I can't see the problem."
There's an article in the papers today about a bi priest who has been sacked. The information was taken from his computer by his wife who discovered his penchant for prostitutes and gang bangs and handed over to the church.
Nothing he did was illegal but his activities made his employment (and marriage) untenable. |
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"Surely what you do in your own time, is up to you!. None of anyone's business, not like your employers have never had sex at anytime in their life, this place is just for like minded people, where you know what your getting, just without all the bullshit and commitment.Except if the Sun have you in a story with "Mr X who works for company Y in sex shame" then chances are you'll get fired or at least disciplined. I know my own firm VERY aggressively scans the Internet/web for anything involving staff names, possible inside information etc. I had a formal warning once for posting something on a bulletin board which they took exception to."
My daughter simply wrote she'd had a stressful month at work: considering she'd been on a business trip that took her to Tanzania, Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana and Turkey, where she got stuck during the volcanic ash incident and struggled back overland with the help of some squaddies: understatement. Her bosses however took exception and asked her to remove it as her employment was on her Facebook page and they thought it reflected negatively on them! |
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By *ilacWoman
over a year ago
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With regards to the articles recently about the police, I thought the issue was that they were either discussing their job, wearing their uniform or doing it on work time. I know a policeman that was called in for professional conduct investigation due to his Fab use and sexual activities. And because he could prove that no pics of him in uniform had been shown, nor was he using his real name or face pic publicly, nor was he accessing Fab during work time, he was fine. |
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I'm the HR Director for a large Group of Companies, if anyone has trouble, PM me direct.
Get to know your social media policy
Do not make any link to work; I have mailed nurses on here to tell them to delete uniform pictures
Do not promote in the work environment
Discrimination legislation promotes values and beliefs; this arguably includes a belief that a relationship does not have to be 1-on-1, in our case where the girlfriend is seeking bi girls, any grief from the employer could be seen as sex discrimination.
If you have less than 2 years service it's easier to dismiss an employee; but there is no entitlement period for discrimination claims, so sex discrimination thrown at your HR dept will usually cause them to shit themselves and bottle it!
If anyone is having trouble, get in touch |
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"Was just wondering last... Say you are a Doctor, Teacher, Lawyer, MP, social worker, Child protection officer etc, etc and your boss calls you in and says they have information that your are on FAB or a similar site. Where do you stand professionally & legally? Is your job at risk of is it a case of consenting
adults/nobody else's business what I do in private etc??
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This certainly got me thinking! Guess I have to pack in and go afterall there is no luck being here for me to loose my job which pays the bills.
On the more serious note it is legit for organisations to have a say in this especially if it is in their policies for character gratification!
The technology world has changed so much with the advent of smart phones where our lives rovolve round if you dont check and untick the synchronisation button with regards social media sites then one is in trouble because automatically the phone synchs pictures and most visited sites on your phone.
Have you realised even facebook automatically populates the sites you frequently visit be it online shopping or browsing? Same way it can populate fab as a page you frequently visit and even more scary is when you mistakenly press a button to share...SNAP!! |
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If my FD found out, id like to fuck her!
In the real world, in the environment I work now nothing would be done. As long as I was not using company info etc.
Past jobs, not so sire.
If your on here, not using face pics and not real names you won't get caught.
If your pictured at work, in uniform being daft you deserve it for being stupid!
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Can your boss come to your house and open your mail NO its called invasion of privacy if your boss says you have to leave just say ok I will go to the press or take them to court watch them back down this is not the 1800 's they can not do that |
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"Can your boss come to your house and open your mail NO its called invasion of privacy if your boss says you have to leave just say ok I will go to the press or take them to court watch them back down this is not the 1800 's they can not do that "
Whether they should do it is an open question, they most certainly CAN though.
The hypothetical boss in question will laugh at you and say 'go for it' if you threaten them like that.
Your example of your mail at home is invalid, it would be analagous to said boss reading your private email. A better analogy may be your boss coming round to see if you've got posters in the window. And why not? If you're working at a shale gas company and you've got anti-fracking posters adorning your property I can see why the employer may be somewhat concerned.
Many companies check the social media of candidates for new jobs too. In fact, assume they will when you apply for a job. |
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All depends on the mindset of the person in charge of HR (me in my firm) my ex admin assistant admitted to having an affair in work... on my desk, and expected to be fired. I told her next time to let me watch |
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"My nickname at work is "swingerman". That goes all the way up to the md...... I to,d them what I do on interview..... the answer was "top man". Two other employees joined the site later (both ladies). Neither are still with the company....but one is still on fab.
I'm not in a job where it would matter much either way but I have introduced one customer to the site (we were fb for a while....but I also introduced her to her now husband). I've also come across another customer on the site.
Different jobs need different levels of discretion I suppose. Why would anyone choose to discuss swinging at a job interview..?
The mind boggles.
I've chaired many an interview panel and attended a few myself. Not once in my life have I attended/chaired one where the candidates private, let alone sexual life has been discussed. "
I would think that in most companies if the interviewer asked about your private life and whether or not you were a swinger , the interviewer would likely to be dismissed for gross misconduct if a formal complaint were to be made .
It is perfectly acceptable for companies to expect employees to adhere to certain codes ofconduct as employees are accepting the benefits being given by an employer .
I am at a loss to understand why any comoany would discuss such a topic at an interview , or for that matter why any interviewee would bring the topic up.
I interview people regularly for a small businness which I run and I would never dream of disscussing someones private life . |
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference. "
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference.
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
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I truly don't understand how some people don't get the subtle difference either. Or the self employed.
If my plumber attends gang bangs, wears ladies underwear, couldn't give a monkeys. If on his Facebook page there were "shares" for example of a racist/sexist/homophobic etc nature, he wouldn't get my money!
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference.
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
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the simple fact that some are clearly not able to read and understand something as simple as this does make one wonder..
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I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
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I got hired on the basis of being a sex-positive feminist and queer theorist by my main client. My client is ok with me having a sex life. |
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over a year ago
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference.
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
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I'm self employed and got outted. To everyone. My 300+ clients included. Didn't lose a single one. Funnily enough, me enjoying wearing blindfolds and being tied up doesn't affect my ability to do my job. I got support from my clients and I think they valued the way I handled a horrible situation of having my trust completely violated.
In fairness, if I was in my previous job of working for an American corporation, I wouldn't have any face pics on display and would be as discrete as possible.
Mind you, I was discrete prior to my outting. |
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference.
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
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Well I don't bring my organisation into disrepute. They is no way our Fab page can be traced to where either of us work. I guess the worst that can happen is if someone from work attends the same party as us. If someone we know decides to blab, first of all they would have to know where we work, secondly they would have to prove it. With my husband's work he would probably ask them to investigate all the shagging that goes on after a work night out, and affairs that have taken place. That behaviour is far more likely to bring the company in direpute - I mean at a work do it's practically on the company's time. People outside the swing scene behave no better, if anything worse. |
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference.
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
Well I don't bring my organisation into disrepute. They is no way our Fab page can be traced to where either of us work. I guess the worst that can happen is if someone from work attends the same party as us. If someone we know decides to blab, first of all they would have to know where we work, secondly they would have to prove it. With my husband's work he would probably ask them to investigate all the shagging that goes on after a work night out, and affairs that have taken place. That behaviour is far more likely to bring the company in direpute - I mean at a work do it's practically on the company's time. People outside the swing scene behave no better, if anything worse. "
You don't think you bring your organisation into disrepute.
Unfortunately it won't be you judging you.......
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"I work in health care and can't show my face on my public profile. Having said that, sex between coworkers is very very common where I work and I have a bit of a reputation at work which doesn't bother me one bit (and apparently coworker sex doesn't bother administration either as long as it's not sex on the premises). But I could lose my job if I became the poster girl for swinging.
That's the thing isn't it? The vast majority of employers couldn't give a damn about the employee's private lives. It's when they feel an employee's activities reflect poorly on them.
It's a subtle difference.
It's the subtle difference that seems to be evading the vast majority of contributors to this thread......
The "what I do in my own time is my business" simply does not hold true if what you do reflects badly on your employer. If it tarnishes their reputation, if it brings them into disrepute, if it has the potential to lose them business.
I love the I'm self employed defence too.
Super.... let's see how your customers react......
I KNOW MY RIGHTS!!!!!!!!
No, you don't.
Really, you don't........
Well I don't bring my organisation into disrepute. They is no way our Fab page can be traced to where either of us work. I guess the worst that can happen is if someone from work attends the same party as us. If someone we know decides to blab, first of all they would have to know where we work, secondly they would have to prove it. With my husband's work he would probably ask them to investigate all the shagging that goes on after a work night out, and affairs that have taken place. That behaviour is far more likely to bring the company in direpute - I mean at a work do it's practically on the company's time. People outside the swing scene behave no better, if anything worse.
You don't think you bring your organisation into disrepute.
Unfortunately it won't be you judging you.......
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I cannot bring my organisation into disrepute if my organisation doesn't know I'm doing anything that they would judge to be disreputing them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If anyone is ever in this sort of position, I'd urge them to contact Backlash, a charity helping and advising people with this type of thing.
And don't ever think it couldn't happen to you. "
Very true. We hadn't heard of that organisation, thank you. |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
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"I would just deny it. The pictures in our public galley are vague as to who they are. They could be us, but it can't be proven. My husband stumbled across a video on something like tumbler of a women giving a blowjob. He jokingly said 'I've got a bone to pick with you'. I had to do a double take. In fact I racked my brains as to whether it could have been me. She was identical to me down to her hair, eyes and facial expressions, and how I look when giving a blowjob. Her hands were different so I knew it wasn't me. She was in a car too and I know I've never done that in a car. The point is, if your boss says 'I found this picture of someone on a sex site and it looks like you', just say 'it looks like me, but it's not me - I've never been on a sex sure. Why were you on a sex site?'"
True but if it's clearly your face on a public profile then you can't deny it. So I keep face pics for friends only so that legally it's private. |
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