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By *adyGarden OP Woman
over a year ago
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Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
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over a year ago
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Every alt community debates labels to a huge extent. The problem is that a label is only useful if both its owner and other have the same definition of what it means! And guess what, that is another debate in itself lol
Here, it is fine to keep things simple and approximate 
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I guess we need labels up to a point just so we have a rough idea of what's what. Otherwise things may get a little confusing. A bit like names. We don't really need them but it'd get bloody confusing talking to people if they didn't have a name.
What concerns me more is how people worry about how they label themselves or how people _iew their label. They seem to get hung up on whether they're bi or whatever, and they seem to care what others may think. You are whatever you are. The name you put on yourself won't alter that fact.
Then you get the people who seem obsessed with giving themselves some weird label regarding their sexuality. Something obscure that you've never even heard of like polyamourous-epiglottal-non-saturated-sodium-glutamate-asexual or some such nonsense. Then they like to tell the whole world about it as if we should give a shit. You like what you like. You are what you are. Now just get on with it. |
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By *adyGarden OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Maybe it's just ease, convenience and simplicity? Given the choice humans are usually going to do whatever is easiest."
It is neither easy nor convenient to decide on labeling. Some people really stress over it while others don't even understand half of them.
I am me and I don't need want or desire a label. If someone wants to label me then I don't care what they call me as I will still be me regardless of a label
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One could say that about all lables though. I have dyslexia, I am male, I am bi cur etc etc. All of them tell you something about me, but none of them tell you the whole truth, that is I am who I am.
I don't think I'd like to meet someone who insisted on just saying I am who I am and then leaving me to wonder what that means.
Labels provide an approximation, but that in itself can lead to a discussion, such as clarifying what exactly being dyslexic or bi-cur means to me. So although the OP says labels don't mean anything, I feel they provide something that helps promote a discussion in order for people to know what "I am me" actually means. |
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By *adyGarden OP Woman
over a year ago
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"One could say that about all lables though. I have dyslexia, I am male, I am bi cur etc etc. All of them tell you something about me, but none of them tell you the whole truth, that is I am who I am.
I don't think I'd like to meet someone who insisted on just saying I am who I am and then leaving me to wonder what that means.
Labels provide an approximation, but that in itself can lead to a discussion, such as clarifying what exactly being dyslexic or bi-cur means to me. So although the OP says labels don't mean anything, I feel they provide something that helps promote a discussion in order for people to know what "I am me" actually means. "
Well I am who I am and that is open to interpretation. Even if I put one label on myself someone else might not agree and put another on me. labels matter not in the grand scheme of things. As for the Dyslexia, that isn't a label but a condition of the mind and doesn't say what type of a person you are.
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"One could say that about all lables though. I have dyslexia, I am male, I am bi cur etc etc. All of them tell you something about me, but none of them tell you the whole truth, that is I am who I am.
I don't think I'd like to meet someone who insisted on just saying I am who I am and then leaving me to wonder what that means.
Labels provide an approximation, but that in itself can lead to a discussion, such as clarifying what exactly being dyslexic or bi-cur means to me. So although the OP says labels don't mean anything, I feel they provide something that helps promote a discussion in order for people to know what "I am me" actually means.
Well I am who I am and that is open to interpretation. Even if I put one label on myself someone else might not agree and put another on me. labels matter not in the grand scheme of things. As for the Dyslexia, that isn't a label but a condition of the mind and doesn't say what type of a person you are.
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dyscalculia! !!!!! |
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" labels like acronyms are often used to exclude those not in the know. If you don't understand you need to ask putting you at a slight disadvantage."
Isn't that how we learn and grow though, ? |
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" labels like acronyms are often used to exclude those not in the know. If you don't understand you need to ask putting you at a slight disadvantage.
Isn't that how we learn and grow though, ?"
think I better label my wullie then lol it may help |
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"Maybe it's just ease, convenience and simplicity? Given the choice humans are usually going to do whatever is easiest.
It is neither easy nor convenient to decide on labeling. Some people really stress over it while others don't even understand half of them.
I am me and I don't need want or desire a label. If someone wants to label me then I don't care what they call me as I will still be me regardless of a label
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We are who we are but surely the use of labels on here helps to decide who you contact...our "label" is straight so that will save some people time when deciding who to contact. |
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
DISCUSS...... "
If only fab had a label saying ...
Sex - yes please or no thank you.
Who gives a damn if you want to play with the same sex, after all its meant to be FUN 
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
DISCUSS......
If only fab had a label saying ...
Sex - yes please or no thank you.
Who gives a damn if you want to play with the same sex, after all its meant to be FUN very good point and that is what is bloody missing swinging as lost its true meaning TBH with all the label stuff
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
DISCUSS......
If only fab had a label saying ...
Sex - yes please or no thank you.
Who gives a damn if you want to play with the same sex, after all its meant to be FUN
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I identify as a Pansexual Toaster... Any bread is good bread! |
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"One could say that about all lables though. I have dyslexia, I am male, I am bi cur etc etc. All of them tell you something about me, but none of them tell you the whole truth, that is I am who I am.
I don't think I'd like to meet someone who insisted on just saying I am who I am and then leaving me to wonder what that means.
Labels provide an approximation, but that in itself can lead to a discussion, such as clarifying what exactly being dyslexic or bi-cur means to me. So although the OP says labels don't mean anything, I feel they provide something that helps promote a discussion in order for people to know what "I am me" actually means. "
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" labels like acronyms are often used to exclude those not in the know. If you don't understand you need to ask putting you at a slight disadvantage.
Isn't that how we learn and grow though, ?"
Yes it is but I meant when labels and acronyms are used deliberately to exclude people. |
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"One could say that about all lables though. I have dyslexia, I am male, I am bi cur etc etc. All of them tell you something about me, but none of them tell you the whole truth, that is I am who I am.
I don't think I'd like to meet someone who insisted on just saying I am who I am and then leaving me to wonder what that means.
Labels provide an approximation, but that in itself can lead to a discussion, such as clarifying what exactly being dyslexic or bi-cur means to me. So although the OP says labels don't mean anything, I feel they provide something that helps promote a discussion in order for people to know what "I am me" actually means.
Well I am who I am and that is open to interpretation. Even if I put one label on myself someone else might not agree and put another on me. labels matter not in the grand scheme of things. As for the Dyslexia, that isn't a label but a condition of the mind and doesn't say what type of a person you are.
dyscalculia! !!!!!"
I've lost count of the number of times I've had to explain this label to people. |
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I suppose in order to have a successful discourse something needs to be given a name and a definition. It's how humans make sense of the world, by categorising and naming. As for it being a negative habit, I'm sure that if we didn't have language, the sort of people who are prone to using labels to exclude or persecute others would find another way to do it instead. |
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" labels like acronyms are often used to exclude those not in the know. If you don't understand you need to ask putting you at a slight disadvantage.
Isn't that how we learn and grow though, ?
Yes it is but I meant when labels and acronyms are used deliberately to exclude people. "
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" labels like acronyms are often used to exclude those not in the know. If you don't understand you need to ask putting you at a slight disadvantage.
Isn't that how we learn and grow though, ?
Yes it is but I meant when labels and acronyms are used deliberately to exclude people.
Ahh I see sorry "
I wasn't clear, it's good to question |
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We like labels because it helps divide up or world into chunks so we can identify with what we like or want and what we don't like/don't want. Forget about sex and think of genres of music... It's even more diverse. But just because you don't like garage shouldn't mean you refuse to listen to any of the type.
For me I figure we'd be better off considering the individual than grouping them together into what they will and will not consider doing. Then we might start concentrating on whether we actually like them. I like sex with men and women but it's totally possible that I could go to a club and not find anyone I wanted to have sex with. I might also find a man or woman that liked sex with men but had no interest in me. |
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"I suppose in order to have a successful discourse something needs to be given a name and a definition. It's how humans make sense of the world, by categorising and naming. As for it being a negative habit, I'm sure that if we didn't have language, the sort of people who are prone to using labels to exclude or persecute others would find another way to do it instead."
Yes they would.
I was thinking of a specific incident concerning the care of my elderly mother. I went to the nurses station with my father to ask several questions and was given a response full of labels and acronyms that a person with next to no medical knowledge or knowledge of the social services could possibly understand. I'm pretty sure this was designed to blind us with science however I asked the nurse to go back and explain it all in layman's terms but wouldn't it have been easier to do that in the first place? |
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"I suppose in order to have a successful discourse something needs to be given a name and a definition. It's how humans make sense of the world, by categorising and naming. As for it being a negative habit, I'm sure that if we didn't have language, the sort of people who are prone to using labels to exclude or persecute others would find another way to do it instead.
Yes they would.
I was thinking of a specific incident concerning the care of my elderly mother. I went to the nurses station with my father to ask several questions and was given a response full of labels and acronyms that a person with next to no medical knowledge or knowledge of the social services could possibly understand. I'm pretty sure this was designed to blind us with science however I asked the nurse to go back and explain it all in layman's terms but wouldn't it have been easier to do that in the first place? "
Yes it would. That was very insensitive of them. |
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I cut most of my labels out as they get quite irritating...
On a more serious note, I'm not a fan of labels and try not to adhere to any and just go with the flow |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
DISCUSS...... "
Life would be so much more difficult without labels.
On the whole,sexual Labels are not insulting,nor constricting,
they are descriptive.
Be who you want to be,if it's who you are,don't be ashamed of the label.
 
Ps Don't get the tattoo.
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By *adyGarden OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
DISCUSS......
Life would be so much more difficult without labels.
On the whole,sexual Labels are not insulting,nor constricting,
they are descriptive.
Be who you want to be,if it's who you are,don't be ashamed of the label.
Ps Don't get the tattoo.
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Dam it too late, just labeled myself as Princess  |
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Labels help you find what you are looking for after all if your gay guy for instance looking for another gay guy u wouldn't want to chat up a lesbian and vice versa I think the more information your label has makes it easier for people to decide if you're to their taste if we just stuck to man or woman labels then how would u know if the person u interested in is gay bi pansexual etc etc but at the end of the day you need to be comfortable with the label u wear |
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By *adyGarden OP Woman
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"Labels help you find what you are looking for after all if your gay guy for instance looking for another gay guy u wouldn't want to chat up a lesbian and vice versa I think the more information your label has makes it easier for people to decide if you're to their taste if we just stuck to man or woman labels then how would u know if the person u interested in is gay bi pansexual etc etc but at the end of the day you need to be comfortable with the label u wear "
It's not that difficult to know what type of person you are talking to after a good conversation about yourselves.
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I like to know what's on offer ...
I like a buffet - I'm not into putting random things in my mouth without knowing what they are
I couldn't care less what people think of my label and I'm not judging anyone else for theirs - just be x |
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
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for the same reason you label a tin of beans, preference and to know what your getting ! |
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
DISCUSS...... "
Interesting, I guess we all see ourselves as, well us.
The reason we chose to find labels that closely fit ourselves is so we can find compatible lovers/friends.
My son (born female) is transgender grey ace gay. I know it's helped me a lot in understanding him with him using these "labels" x |
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By *andb69Couple
over a year ago
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Labels aren't for yourself they are for other people. If I go to a shop for a tin of beans I want it to be a tin of beans not dog food. Without a label I couldn't tell. Similarly if I want to play with a guy I want to know he is straight. If I play with a girl I want to know she is bi. Having a label avoids embarrassing confusion. There is nothing wrong with labels as long as they aren't used to abuse or marginalise people - what is wrong are the people who misuse them. |
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"Why is the world so hellbent on labeling a person?
Why do we have to be labelled as gay, straight, bi, pan, ts, tv....
The list goes on and on and new labels for someone's lifestyle and sexual orientation are coming up all the time. Why put a label on it? Why can't we just be who we want to be without needing to label it? Surely life can be completed enough without having to decide which label you should have tattooed across your forehead?
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Exactly this!!  |
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"Labels aren't for yourself they are for other people. If I go to a shop for a tin of beans I want it to be a tin of beans not dog food. Without a label I couldn't tell. Similarly if I want to play with a guy I want to know he is straight. If I play with a girl I want to know she is bi. Having a label avoids embarrassing confusion. There is nothing wrong with labels as long as they aren't used to abuse or marginalise people - what is wrong are the people who misuse them."
Yes but surely, (if all are clean etc ) it only matters what the said person is at the time you meet them....you wouldn't ask what they were likely to participate in the future would you, so why is the past so important?
Personally I think it's narrow-minded and suppressive to label and judge people on their personal past....that said we all have our personal way of looking at it.
I think we should all care for our health more than care about what's been where |
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"Labels aren't for yourself they are for other people. If I go to a shop for a tin of beans I want it to be a tin of beans not dog food. Without a label I couldn't tell. Similarly if I want to play with a guy I want to know he is straight. If I play with a girl I want to know she is bi. Having a label avoids embarrassing confusion. There is nothing wrong with labels as long as they aren't used to abuse or marginalise people - what is wrong are the people who misuse them.
Yes but surely, (if all are clean etc ) it only matters what the said person is at the time you meet them....you wouldn't ask what they were likely to participate in the future would you, so why is the past so important?
Personally I think it's narrow-minded and suppressive to label and judge people on their personal past....that said we all have our personal way of looking at it.
I think we should all care for our health more than care about what's been where "
"Clean" is a label. As is tall, curvy, blonde, well hung etc
There may be something judgemental or suppressive if you label someone else, but not if you label yourself. If it's OK to describe yourself as clean, then why not as straight, bi, gay or a foot fetishist? It simply tells people what you are and what you are offering them. Seems obvious really. Why are people so against it? |
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In an ideal world, nobody would give a flying frig about labels. But we do. It simplifies things.
I've tried saying I'm 'just me' but it doesn't work so happy to say I'm pansexual. Everyone is a potential victim 
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