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It's the ethos innit.
speaking as someone who has done hard miles on HD since the AMF/shovel days, there are three kinds of HD owner.
1/ The people who buy into the brand itself and all the associated bullshit, with themselves and the bike draped in enough branded HD paraphenalia to buy a perfectly good motorcycle.
2/ The people who own one because "anything else is less" and they genuinely believe it.
3/ The people who know that *technically* almost all of the jap yamaharley clones are superior in every way, but for whom all the drawbacks and quirks and retro engineering just suits them better
The one practical advantage to HD ownership is generally speaking you can sell one for damn near what you paid for it, unless you bought it new.
Having said all that, you couldn't give me an EFI HD, let alone the new 4 valve motor, looks like the twinkie is the end of the line.
And I go out to ride, I'll stop for gas, not to meet people or be seen or ride in company, like wanking, it's best as a solo experience...lol
The "biker" label is irellevant to make / model / size, there is a local lad who has ridden a C90 to the arctic circle and back, to iran and back, and all over europe, he's no less of a biker because of what he rides. |
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I have the new breakout and to honest it has killed my passion for the brand, I like custom bikes and harley used to be just the thing as they were so simple you could make all the tweaks and tunes yourself. the new models are killing the dream, you can't even change the hoses without plugging it in. I had a pan but sold it to put a deposit on my house... I should have kept it and got a tent. |
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Hardley Ableson - like a two-wheeled tractor, but slower....
Honestly - what it is about them???
I can appreciate that the older Harleys were actually rather good bikes, but the utter waffle that surrounds them today and the associated culture just makes me want to weep....
I see "clubs" of them shuffling around our Welsh main roads, looking mean and going so slowly that little old ladies in 2CVs are desperate to get past them.
Fortunately I am the owner of a very well-used and far-travelled Dual-Sport Adventure bike with ground-away footrests, some fabulous memories and a very big smile....
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I can appreciate that the older Harleys were actually rather good bikes,"
Actually, they weren't all that, for their era at that time, they weren't that bad, but it's a bit like saying a 61 BSA A10 was rather a good bike.
If you want 100,000 trouble free miles what you gonna buy, a new Honda or a fully restored to factory new beezer?
The packs you discuss holding up 2CV's aren't bikers or even HD owners, they would be HOG members, they often passed their tests on a D1 bantam and haven't ridden since, and can't ride even before they go out in a pack on an epic 30 mile road trip to the next michelin starred eatery.
Shrugs, it's a free world, and the roads are public, they are less hassle than the mum's doing the school run, fucking deliveroo cyclcists, any cunt with a caravan, urban 4x4 users, and so on. |
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Hey don't dis the urban off-roaders  I had many an adventure driving my old truck up and down stairwells and up car park walls and so forth, it beat green laning |
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"Hey don't dis the urban off-roaders I had many an adventure driving my old truck up and down stairwells and up car park walls and so forth, it beat green laning"
Dis them, far from it, a few years ago a mate of mine had a GMC crew cab pickup, he did a deal with some dude from wales where they were going to swap wheels and tires and some cash either way, he wanted bigger wheels, the other guy wanted smaller wheels.
Except, the two vehicles weren't *quite* identical, so they ended up meeting up in a multi story somewhere, parked next to each other did the deed, and the other guy drives off.
At that point my mate realises that his vehicle is now 3" too high to clear the beams on the exit ramps, so they had to let all 4 tires down flat, crawl down and out at 1 mph to avoid popping them off the rims, and then wait 45 minutes outside on double yellows for the ATS guy to come and pump him up.
He said when he told the story the traffic warden was laughing so hard he clear forgot to give him a ticket...  |
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"Where are all the harley riders.would be good to meet up and ride.Debbie rides a 1200 sportster and I a street bob xxxx "
We got a Low Ride from 1994 fitted with 1450 Twin Cam  |
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By *inge61Couple
over a year ago
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have a 96 electra glide wanted one for years ride round north wales too and dont slow anyone down and have ground boards and anything else that will ground have a few other bikes too not all hd riders buy into the brand etc not a member of any clubs either cant be doing with that so its a free choice what you ride and who knows what else you may ride as most bikers have a few toys lol |
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"It's the ethos innit.
speaking as someone who has done hard miles on HD since the AMF/shovel days, there are three kinds of HD owner.
1/ The people who buy into the brand itself and all the associated bullshit, with themselves and the bike draped in enough branded HD paraphenalia to buy a perfectly good motorcycle.
2/ The people who own one because "anything else is less" and they genuinely believe it.
3/ The people who know that *technically* almost all of the jap yamaharley clones are superior in every way, but for whom all the drawbacks and quirks and retro engineering just suits them better
The one practical advantage to HD ownership is generally speaking you can sell one for damn near what you paid for it, unless you bought it new.
Having said all that, you couldn't give me an EFI HD, let alone the new 4 valve motor, looks like the twinkie is the end of the line.
And I go out to ride, I'll stop for gas, not to meet people or be seen or ride in company, like wanking, it's best as a solo experience...lol
The "biker" label is irellevant to make / model / size, there is a local lad who has ridden a C90 to the arctic circle and back, to iran and back, and all over europe, he's no less of a biker because of what he rides."
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"Hardley Ableson - like a two-wheeled tractor, but slower....
Honestly - what it is about them???
I can appreciate that the older Harleys were actually rather good bikes, but the utter waffle that surrounds them today and the associated culture just makes me want to weep....
I see "clubs" of them shuffling around our Welsh main roads, looking mean and going so slowly that little old ladies in 2CVs are desperate to get past them.
Fortunately I am the owner of a very well-used and far-travelled Dual-Sport Adventure bike with ground-away footrests, some fabulous memories and a very big smile....
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Annie, your roads are built for Blades!! x |
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"Hardley Ableson - like a two-wheeled tractor, but slower....
Honestly - what it is about them???
I can appreciate that the older Harleys were actually rather good bikes, but the utter waffle that surrounds them today and the associated culture just makes me want to weep....
I see "clubs" of them shuffling around our Welsh main roads, looking mean and going so slowly that little old ladies in 2CVs are desperate to get past them.
Fortunately I am the owner of a very well-used and far-travelled Dual-Sport Adventure bike with ground-away footrests, some fabulous memories and a very big smile....
Annie, your roads are built for Blades!! x"
Don't forget the Ducati's |
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By *WRCCouple
over a year ago
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"Isn't that a contradiction in terms, biker & Harley rider???
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It really isn't. I get the prejudice and a fair few Harley riders do us Harley owners any favours. But they are a laug, a bit like driving a classic car; they're engaging, not super-slick and need work to really hustle along. But they sound awesome, and throb rather than vibrate. I love mine, and I also ride other, sportier stuff. |
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"Where are all the harley riders.would be good to meet up and ride.Debbie rides a 1200 sportster and I a street bob xxxx "
There is a great group on Facebook for Harley's, PM me for details
Organising a big ride to Nottingham soon hopefully setting a world record
Wes |
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"Where are all the harley riders.would be good to meet up and ride.Debbie rides a 1200 sportster and I a street bob xxxx
There is a great group on Facebook for Harley's, PM me for details
Organising a big ride to Nottingham soon hopefully setting a world record
Wes"
Somebody is down with the Sickness..... shhhh |
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over a year ago
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Been around bikes for about 40 years. Mopeds to crossers to race reps and street fighters.
Had Triumphs for the last 16 years. Lost interest.
Decided to change to Harley for something different,(despite all the slagging).
It is a different style of riding, yes. I have ground the pegs and lifted them in corners and ground the engine casings oops.
It is about re learning hiw to ride these things especially in corners,( different lines) interesting. But i am kearning and it is fun.
Starting to like not being in a hurry. Which i think is what its about. I am now looking at the scenery rather than trying to plant myself in it.
But, some Harley owners RIP MY KNITTING!! |
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First rally on the Harley this coming weekend.
We shall see how it pans out with two up and tent n shit strapped all over it lol.
Should be interesting.   |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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Only two Harleys I've ever considered owning, those being a WL model or an XLCR1000. Hate to say it but generally I find there's only two bikes you usually don't get a nod back from, Harley & Goldwing riders.
Due to this they are also the only two bikes I won't stop for if they are by the side of the road.
I have a mate with a heritage softtail when he got it we swapped for a little ride & he took my TL1000. His parting words were "See that thing in your right hand? On Harleys its not the throttle its the volume control".
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"I'll stick to my trusty go anywhere transalp "
I rode a Hayabusa up to a viewing point in the Pyrenees once, all loose gravel & rocks, kicking dust up. Took some pics and when I got back down two cops waiting gave me a round of applause as they were sure I was going to drop it.
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"Only two Harleys I've ever considered owning, those being a WL model or an XLCR1000. Hate to say it but generally I find there's only two bikes you usually don't get a nod back from, Harley & Goldwing riders.
Due to this they are also the only two bikes I won't stop for if they are by the side of the road.
I have a mate with a heritage softtail when he got it we swapped for a little ride & he took my TL1000. His parting words were "See that thing in your right hand? On Harleys its not the throttle its the volume control".
I ride a Harley and I nod at everyone. I find in general whatever make of bike people are riding, the old 'biker nod' doesn't seem to get returned these days.
I would stop for anyone at the side of the road if they looked like they needed help.
I think you get good and bad whatever you ride....
S"
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"Only two Harleys I've ever considered owning, those being a WL model or an XLCR1000. Hate to say it but generally I find there's only two bikes you usually don't get a nod back from, Harley & Goldwing riders.
Due to this they are also the only two bikes I won't stop for if they are by the side of the road.
I have a mate with a heritage softtail when he got it we swapped for a little ride & he took my TL1000. His parting words were "See that thing in your right hand? On Harleys its not the throttle its the volume control".
I ride a Harley and I nod at everyone. I find in general whatever make of bike people are riding, the old 'biker nod' doesn't seem to get returned these days.
I would stop for anyone at the side of the road if they looked like they needed help.
I think you get good and bad whatever you ride....
S"
True I guess, but I'm really friendly & nod at everything & will continue to do so. Must admit though I have never come across either make broken down. I could lie & say its because they are reliable, but I'll be more truthful & say one is, the other rarely goes very far
I did take a shine to an all black knucklehead custom once, more bobber than easyrider though. That was till I test rode it anyway, something didn't feel right, so I left it.
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"Isn't that a contradiction in terms, biker & Harley rider???"
AGREED!
I had a 72 sportster, furthest I ever went without something falling off was 9 miles, most notably brake pedal...
Mind you it sounded like the devil himself farting in a biscuit tin... |
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"It's the ethos innit.
speaking as someone who has done hard miles on HD since the AMF/shovel days, there are three kinds of HD owner.
1/ The people who buy into the brand itself and all the associated bullshit, with themselves and the bike draped in enough branded HD paraphenalia to buy a perfectly good motorcycle.
2/ The people who own one because "anything else is less" and they genuinely believe it.
3/ The people who know that *technically* almost all of the jap yamaharley clones are superior in every way, but for whom all the drawbacks and quirks and retro engineering just suits them better
The one practical advantage to HD ownership is generally speaking you can sell one for damn near what you paid for it, unless you bought it new.
Having said all that, you couldn't give me an EFI HD, let alone the new 4 valve motor, looks like the twinkie is the end of the line.
And I go out to ride, I'll stop for gas, not to meet people or be seen or ride in company, like wanking, it's best as a solo experience...lol
The "biker" label is irellevant to make / model / size, there is a local lad who has ridden a C90 to the arctic circle and back, to iran and back, and all over europe, he's no less of a biker because of what he rides."
Honda C series are the biggest selling bike in the world, or until the Chinese copied them but worse...
Imho to be a real biker you have to at least have ridden one--- kudos to the arctic tho mans got balls of steel
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Can sort of understand the appeal of a Harley, but I would never go for one myself.
What I really can't understand, though, is how people fall for the vastly inflated prices for such very dated and unsophisticated tech. |
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"Can sort of understand the appeal of a Harley, but I would never go for one myself.
What I really can't understand, though, is how people fall for the vastly inflated prices for such very dated and unsophisticated tech."
I was exactly the same until I rode one.
As for unsophisticated tech. My harley has more 'toys' than my R6 had.
I used to be anti Harley but then I realised I was anti middle class banker types riding the top of the range ones.
I have a, relatively, cheap sportster. I love it |
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I've a question now reading this thread, I've been into bikes for many years, dt125, rxs100 gpz600 and then the original blade which I owned for 17 years till I got rid last year, I've looked at HD but the modern era and they look nice, however reading this thread it seems I'd be better going back a few years and go from there.
It won't be a daily runner but more a just head off for a ride on days off.
Thoughts?
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"I've a question now reading this thread, I've been into bikes for many years, dt125, rxs100 gpz600 and then the original blade which I owned for 17 years till I got rid last year, I've looked at HD but the modern era and they look nice, however reading this thread it seems I'd be better going back a few years and go from there.
It won't be a daily runner but more a just head off for a ride on days off.
Thoughts?
Mr "
my boss and one of the managers where I work both bought early hd bikes and decided that they were better of with newer ones which they then purchased for more day to day riding and though no. Biker I must admit the modern machines look as stunning as the older ones especially if they got lots of chrome and a good paint job |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"Jap bikes all the way (in that they actually will go all the way without needing a very expensive mechanic ) "
Yep, but my BMW (in pics) lives outside, not under a cover all year round. I've left it six months plus before now, checked oil, pumped up tyres, turn key, instant start & off for a 300mile Sunday jaunt Wouldn't dream of doing that with anything else, even a new BMW!
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By *haznsteCouple
over a year ago
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I can appreciate that the older Harleys were actually rather good bikes,
Hey I got a D1 bantam, great bikes lol
Actually, they weren't all that, for their era at that time, they weren't that bad, but it's a bit like saying a 61 BSA A10 was rather a good bike.
If you want 100,000 trouble free miles what you gonna buy, a new Honda or a fully restored to factory new beezer?
The packs you discuss holding up 2CV's aren't bikers or even HD owners, they would be HOG members, they often passed their tests on a D1 bantam and haven't ridden since, and can't ride even before they go out in a pack on an epic 30 mile road trip to the next michelin starred eatery.
Shrugs, it's a free world, and the roads are public, they are less hassle than the mum's doing the school run, fucking deliveroo cyclcists, any cunt with a caravan, urban 4x4 users, and so on."
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"Only two Harleys I've ever considered owning, those being a WL model or an XLCR1000. Hate to say it but generally I find there's only two bikes you usually don't get a nod back from, Harley & Goldwing riders.
Due to this they are also the only two bikes I won't stop for if they are by the side of the road.
I have a mate with a heritage softtail when he got it we swapped for a little ride & he took my TL1000. His parting words were "See that thing in your right hand? On Harleys its not the throttle its the volume control".
S"
Hmm it is both on the TL1000 |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"Only two Harleys I've ever considered owning, those being a WL model or an XLCR1000. Hate to say it but generally I find there's only two bikes you usually don't get a nod back from, Harley & Goldwing riders.
Due to this they are also the only two bikes I won't stop for if they are by the side of the road.
I have a mate with a heritage softtail when he got it we swapped for a little ride & he took my TL1000. His parting words were "See that thing in your right hand? On Harleys its not the throttle its the volume control".
S
Hmm it is both on the TL1000"
I love em & on my third, tried other sports bikes, most newer stuff goes ridiculously fast ridiculously easily, TL's are more like 2T's of old, the more you put in, the more you get out. But like 2T's they are not afraid to waggle their head but that's part of the fun
Although giving my latest one 140ish at the rear tyre as opposed to the 110ish as standard may not be the smartest move I've ever had
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"Jap bikes all the way (in that they actually will go all the way without needing a very expensive mechanic )
Yep, but my BMW (in pics) lives outside, not under a cover all year round. I've left it six months plus before now, checked oil, pumped up tyres, turn key, instant start & off for a 300mile Sunday jaunt Wouldn't dream of doing that with anything else, even a new BMW!
S"
Love my BMW can do 600 miles in a day wothout feeling exhausted and can keep up with most of the competition on a track day. |
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"Jap bikes all the way (in that they actually will go all the way without needing a very expensive mechanic )
Yep, but my BMW (in pics) lives outside, not under a cover all year round. I've left it six months plus before now, checked oil, pumped up tyres, turn key, instant start & off for a 300mile Sunday jaunt Wouldn't dream of doing that with anything else, even a new BMW!
S
Love my BMW can do 600 miles in a day wothout feeling exhausted and can keep up with most of the competition on a track day. "
Haha, I go on the occasional rideout with a group, mostly sports bikes, they looked down their noses at the RS 4valve first time, until I was up front pushing the lead bike ever faster once you get your brain used to the fact it weighs as much as a small oiltanker its good fun, only thing really let's it down is the slow gearbox.
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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago
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"Personally I love the smell of two strokers in the morning (Yammy YPVS/LC)
Sold my Triumph Speed Triple last year as the Manics sung 'Motorcycle Emptiness' currently  "
I loved the original Speed Triple, all black moodiness, was looking out for one last year but then decided to mess with my TL instead.
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"Personally I love the smell of two strokers in the morning (Yammy YPVS/LC)
Sold my Triumph Speed Triple last year as the Manics sung 'Motorcycle Emptiness' currently "
I have had 3 Speed Triples over the last 15 years.885, 955 and 1050.
Love them. Will be getting another as a second bike. |
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"Jap bikes all the way (in that they actually will go all the way without needing a very expensive mechanic )
Yep, but my BMW (in pics) lives outside, not under a cover all year round. I've left it six months plus before now, checked oil, pumped up tyres, turn key, instant start & off for a 300mile Sunday jaunt Wouldn't dream of doing that with anything else, even a new BMW!
S
Love my BMW can do 600 miles in a day wothout feeling exhausted and can keep up with most of the competition on a track day.
Haha, I go on the occasional rideout with a group, mostly sports bikes, they looked down their noses at the RS 4valve first time, until I was up front pushing the lead bike ever faster once you get your brain used to the fact it weighs as much as a small oiltanker its good fun, only thing really let's it down is the slow gearbox.
S"
Slipper clutch and quickshifter on the 2014 RT plus an agressive sports mode set up at the flick of the switch. |
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"Personally I love the smell of two strokers in the morning (Yammy YPVS/LC)
Sold my Triumph Speed Triple last year as the Manics sung 'Motorcycle Emptiness' currently
I have had 3 Speed Triples over the last 15 years.885, 955 and 1050.
Love them. Will be getting another as a second bike. "
Next year want to tour Europe on one, so looking for a decent 2nd hand bike |
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I've got the original HD V-Rod from 2002. The bike Harley designed and build to save it from going under. Apparently according to Harley hot heads it not a "real" Harley because it's water cooled and therefore doesn't have the original Harley DNA. Can't win! |
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By *arehamMan
over a year ago
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One year I was in Cap Dage,
And it was a Harley week end if you were a Harley love this was the place to be there was hundreds of thousands of pounds of them I have never seen so many in one place,I think there was nearly one of every bike you could think of that was one nice week end. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I’ve ridden jap sports bikes, street fighters, honda c90 In fact all sorts.
I used to criticise Harley’s too, it’s the ‘cool’ thing to do.
Bottom line is if you don’t like them, don’t ride them.
I would never knock anyone on two wheels. There are too few of us for silly in-fighting.
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I have a heritage springer with a 1540s nose art paint job also a 1936 chevey truck calle boulavard bomb. Would be great to meet up with some othe fab bikwrs and maybe do a run and a bbq followed by a bit of fun |
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I have been a Harley owner for a year now. Love it! 7500 miles last summer.
Having owned allsorts over the years and been one of the Harley deriders, with the usual Hardley goes round corners, Hardley goes uphill comments etc etc.
I can say, i love it. Does exactly what it was designed for and does it well and doesn't pretend to do anything else.(Unlike a lot of race reps)
Cruzin' and bar hopping, no rush |
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Can't think of even championing HD unless you have Roads like what you find in the States. In this country (UK), you end up polishing the feckin things more than riding them. I preferred the Buell anyway |
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Always fancied one, but I feel japanese v-twins are better value for money and more reliable, which I need as a motorcycle is my only form of transport.
Only got a shitty xv535 right now until I get back on my feet. I fancy a kawasaki drifter next, the Indian chief ripoff one! |
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"Only two Harleys I've ever considered owning, those being a WL model or an XLCR1000. Hate to say it but generally I find there's only two bikes you usually don't get a nod back from, Harley & Goldwing riders.
Due to this they are also the only two bikes I won't stop for if they are by the side of the road.
I have a mate with a heritage softtail when he got it we swapped for a little ride & he took my TL1000. His parting words were "See that thing in your right hand? On Harleys its not the throttle its the volume control".
S
Hmm it is both on the TL1000
I love em & on my third, tried other sports bikes, most newer stuff goes ridiculously fast ridiculously easily, TL's are more like 2T's of old, the more you put in, the more you get out. But like 2T's they are not afraid to waggle their head but that's part of the fun
Although giving my latest one 140ish at the rear tyre as opposed to the 110ish as standard may not be the smartest move I've ever had
S"
I love the noise of a v twin, but can't afford a ducati. So I have looked at the TL1000S, it is looks more of a thugs bike than an out and out racer. |
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