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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " We wouldn't knowingly meet a cheater, because if they can lie to their partner, doesn't make them a trustworthy person for us to meet, so not interested. | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x We wouldn't knowingly meet a cheater, because if they can lie to their partner, doesn't make them a trustworthy person for us to meet, so not interested." Makes sense | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " Don't need the drama | |||
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"agree with last posters comments about trust...but equally wouldn't want to find ourselves caught up in all the rubbish that occurs when the cheater gets found out, because they always will. don't want some ranting wife or hubby giving us grief cus their otherhalf couldn't have the sense to sit down and talk to their partner about swinging and so went off cheating instead!" Very true! When shit hits the fan, you proably don't want to be around | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " I'm against it morally, (but don't preach/comment unless asked), but also, what if the partner finds out and causes trouble? ....erm, no cheers.... | |||
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"agree with last posters comments about trust...but equally wouldn't want to find ourselves caught up in all the rubbish that occurs when the cheater gets found out, because they always will. don't want some ranting wife or hubby giving us grief cus their otherhalf couldn't have the sense to sit down and talk to their partner about swinging and so went off cheating instead!" If a man or woman I in a sexless relationship it would not be very helpful to sit down and talk about swinging x | |||
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"These type if posts always intrigue me. People morals are brought into it and assumptions made on others situation. It's like when the old 'fake boob' discussion starts and people write hurtful comments about others, not appreciating that some have had surgery for reasons that are beyond vanity. There are lots of reasons people do things. 'Cheating' implies certain situations, conjures up a happy couple but where one is running out shagging others while dutiful wife / husband sits at home unaware. I'm sure there are as many reasons for seeking satisfaction outside the marriage. I fully respect those who choose not to meet a married person. Just wish people were more honest and open as I'm sure a goid percentage of the ' single folk on here' have some sort of relationship going on outside of Fab. Just my thoughts x " Completely agree with you there | |||
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"We really don't care (shock, horror) as long as the person does not ram the fact down our throats or claim to be "honest."" Yeah. I think that's one of th things that annoys me. Saw someone here the other day who said they were 'honest' yet playing behind their partner's back. Shooting themselves in the foot | |||
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"Having both been cheated on in previous relationships we know the hurt that is caused so simply don't want to be a part of causing that hurt to others." Absolutely this. Had it done to me and devestated my life beyond belief. I would never knowingly inflict that kind of pain on anyone x | |||
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"I used to be really self righteous about this situation. Then I got into a discussion about it and the result being, it's not down to me to adjust their moral compass. They can only do that themselves, if they want to cheat on their partner no one's going to stop them but themselves. I don't actively meet cheating partners, but I've found out after a few have, too late by then for me to do anything! I can't exactly say "Gimme that blow job back you cheating bitch!" " Yeah. Have been in a situation where a guy turned out to be married. Found out after we did the dirty so to speak | |||
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"These type if posts always intrigue me. People morals are brought into it and assumptions made on others situation. It's like when the old 'fake boob' discussion starts and people write hurtful comments about others, not appreciating that some have had surgery for reasons that are beyond vanity. There are lots of reasons people do things. 'Cheating' implies certain situations, conjures up a happy couple but where one is running out shagging others while dutiful wife / husband sits at home unaware. I'm sure there are as many reasons for seeking satisfaction outside the marriage. I fully respect those who choose not to meet a married person. Just wish people were more honest and open as I'm sure a goid percentage of the ' single folk on here' have some sort of relationship going on outside of Fab. Just my thoughts x " Love the profile would love to find someone like you closer to home | |||
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"The thought of some woman feeling like I did when someone was shagging my husband behind my back is enough to make me sick. I want to hold my head up high and have self respect. I may be on this site,but I still have my own morals as far as cheating people are concerned." | |||
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"We really don't care (shock, horror) as long as the person does not ram the fact down our throats or claim to be "honest." Yeah. I think that's one of th things that annoys me. Saw someone here the other day who said they were 'honest' yet playing behind their partner's back. Shooting themselves in the foot " Exactly the kind of comment which makes some cheaters hide the fact that they are attached. There are degrees on honesty, I for one would prefer people to be 'honest' on here about their situation & then others can make an informed choice. | |||
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"Honestly could not care less. If they are cheating, it's a symptom of something not quite right in their relationship and it's up to them to tackle the cause, or not. I don't cheat because I have the whole 'open and honest' thing going on. All I ask is that those who do have a partner let me know, so we can make arrangements to be more discreet. However, many of those never make it to 'meet' stage as the ones who actually want to do something are few and far between. Most just want the fantasy." I'll be honest I don't ask, in clubs it's not feasible to check someone's relationship status and for arranged meets people can lie anyway so it's just not practical to try and prove things either way | |||
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"Having both been cheated on in previous relationships we know the hurt that is caused so simply don't want to be a part of causing that hurt to others." | |||
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"Honestly could not care less. If they are cheating, it's a symptom of something not quite right in their relationship and it's up to them to tackle the cause, or not. I don't cheat because I have the whole 'open and honest' thing going on. All I ask is that those who do have a partner let me know, so we can make arrangements to be more discreet. However, many of those never make it to 'meet' stage as the ones who actually want to do something are few and far between. Most just want the fantasy." That's a interesting I'm guessing observations from your experiences where as mine a very much the opposite . | |||
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"Honestly could not care less. If they are cheating, it's a symptom of something not quite right in their relationship and it's up to them to tackle the cause, or not. I don't cheat because I have the whole 'open and honest' thing going on. All I ask is that those who do have a partner let me know, so we can make arrangements to be more discreet. However, many of those never make it to 'meet' stage as the ones who actually want to do something are few and far between. Most just want the fantasy. That's a interesting I'm guessing observations from your experiences where as mine a very much the opposite ." Older ones, fine with it. It's the younger men that seem to find it harder to actually do anything. And yes, that's just in my experience. *prays her inbox isn't suddenly awash with younger adulterers* | |||
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"We really don't care (shock, horror) as long as the person does not ram the fact down our throats or claim to be "honest." Yeah. I think that's one of th things that annoys me. Saw someone here the other day who said they were 'honest' yet playing behind their partner's back. Shooting themselves in the foot Exactly the kind of comment which makes some cheaters hide the fact that they are attached. There are degrees on honesty, I for one would prefer people to be 'honest' on here about their situation & then others can make an informed choice. " As I said, we don't really care ... until someone uses the "honest" word. Someone proclaiming to be honest when they are cheating on their partner (and, yes, I appreciate that there may be many reasons), is self delusional and untrustworthy. | |||
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"We've played with guys who have an unknowing partner before. The way we see it, WE aren't the ones in the wrong. As long as they're prepared to face the consequences if they get found out then so be it. Besides, I bet a pretty good percentage of single males on here aren't quite as single as they say, and it's awkward enough finding someone to meet without ruling out yet more possibilities. " | |||
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"Honestly could not care less. If they are cheating, it's a symptom of something not quite right in their relationship and it's up to them to tackle the cause, or not. I don't cheat because I have the whole 'open and honest' thing going on. All I ask is that those who do have a partner let me know, so we can make arrangements to be more discreet. However, many of those never make it to 'meet' stage as the ones who actually want to do something are few and far between. Most just want the fantasy." | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. " | |||
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"We really don't care (shock, horror) as long as the person does not ram the fact down our throats or claim to be "honest." Yeah. I think that's one of th things that annoys me. Saw someone here the other day who said they were 'honest' yet playing behind their partner's back. Shooting themselves in the foot Exactly the kind of comment which makes some cheaters hide the fact that they are attached. There are degrees on honesty, I for one would prefer people to be 'honest' on here about their situation & then others can make an informed choice. As I said, we don't really care ... until someone uses the "honest" word. Someone proclaiming to be honest when they are cheating on their partner (and, yes, I appreciate that there may be many reasons), is self delusional and untrustworthy." So if I someone said upfront to you 'I'm attached, lets fuck' you'd be okay but if they were to add they word 'honest' into the equation you wouldn't....: Like i said they're are degrees of honesty especially on the Internet...slight tweak of age, height, size, close up pics to flatter ~ so are they all self delusional & untrustworthy too? | |||
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"I rarely get to meet so when I do like long meets full of social an sexual fun, a lot of the time they are overnight meets, attached guys can only usually meet on certain days at certain times so that obviously doesn't suit what I'm looking for. Also I don't like to accommodate unless I've met someone previously (as it would be in the home I share with my children) and most attached guys can accommodate at home (for obvious reasons) and the Mrs might notice some of the bank balance disappear if we were to get and hotel, I don't do outdoor or car meets so they don't suit what I'm looking for on that level too. " A very sensible and reasoned response , we think we all have reasons for not wanting to meet attached just as they have their reasons for being here freedom of choice | |||
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"I don't because I personally would hate to be cheated on, esp on here. Saying that if they don't tell me that's there problem, as I'm a scratcher " I had scratch marks down my back after a meet a few weeks ago! Had there been a wife to see them that would've been a major problem to explain!! | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " I was very forced to be with a cheater so I gave in to him because when I left him he was very aggressive to Me!I feel very bad for his Girlfriend especially because they've been together for Year's and some of his friends are encouraging him to be with Me,they harass Me now because I won't be with him.Just proves why I Shouldn't be with him at all! | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x I was very forced to be with a cheater so I gave in to him because when I left him he was very aggressive to Me!I feel very bad for his Girlfriend especially because they've been together for Year's and some of his friends are encouraging him to be with Me,they harass Me now because I won't be with him.Just proves why I Shouldn't be with him at all! " Wow | |||
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"We really don't care (shock, horror) as long as the person does not ram the fact down our throats or claim to be "honest." Yeah. I think that's one of th things that annoys me. Saw someone here the other day who said they were 'honest' yet playing behind their partner's back. Shooting themselves in the foot Exactly the kind of comment which makes some cheaters hide the fact that they are attached. There are degrees on honesty, I for one would prefer people to be 'honest' on here about their situation & then others can make an informed choice. As I said, we don't really care ... until someone uses the "honest" word. Someone proclaiming to be honest when they are cheating on their partner (and, yes, I appreciate that there may be many reasons), is self delusional and untrustworthy. So if I someone said upfront to you 'I'm attached, lets fuck' you'd be okay but if they were to add they word 'honest' into the equation you wouldn't....: Like i said they're are degrees of honesty especially on the Internet...slight tweak of age, height, size, close up pics to flatter ~ so are they all self delusional & untrustworthy too? " I am afraid I would not. It may seem strange but I understand why attached people cheat but the moment that they attribute "honesty" to it, I am not interested. | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x I was very forced to be with a cheater so I gave in to him because when I left him he was very aggressive to Me!I feel very bad for his Girlfriend especially because they've been together for Year's and some of his friends are encouraging him to be with Me,they harass Me now because I won't be with him.Just proves why I Shouldn't be with him at all! Wow " I know been happening for Four Year's his Girlfriend Is Beautiful and Successful and doesn't deserve to be cheated on at all I'm shocked his friends are condoning him being with Me! | |||
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"Personally I would not arrange a meet with a cheat. Firstly the honesty thing...if she is prepared to lie to her partner, presumably someone very important in her life, I really doubt she can be honest with me. I then have cause to doubt anything she says about her sexual health, sexual history...and so on. But perhaps more important, I have witnessed the damage cheating can do even when one partner does not know the other is cheating....they are being hurt....the secretive texting, working late or finding courses 100 miles away to go on...visiting the gym and so on...the cheating partner spends a lot less time with their spouse and the relationship is damaged. I've seen it too many times and do not wish to be a part of that. And if the innocent party does find out...the fallout is horrendous. I've known a friend who was "the other woman" and having an angry wife phone up or even turn up on the doorstep is no fun. So I will not knowingly be a part of cheating. If I happen to meet someone at a club and their partner doesn't know they are there, that's probably simply not for me to know. But I've been in this scene a long time...10 years ago cheating was not a part of swinging. I do find it rather sad that it's quite accepted now." | |||
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"Personally I would not arrange a meet with a cheat. Firstly the honesty thing...if she is prepared to lie to her partner, presumably someone very important in her life, I really doubt she can be honest with me. I then have cause to doubt anything she says about her sexual health, sexual history...and so on. But perhaps more important, I have witnessed the damage cheating can do even when one partner does not know the other is cheating....they are being hurt....the secretive texting, working late or finding courses 100 miles away to go on...visiting the gym and so on...the cheating partner spends a lot less time with their spouse and the relationship is damaged. I've seen it too many times and do not wish to be a part of that. And if the innocent party does find out...the fallout is horrendous. I've known a friend who was "the other woman" and having an angry wife phone up or even turn up on the doorstep is no fun. So I will not knowingly be a part of cheating. If I happen to meet someone at a club and their partner doesn't know they are there, that's probably simply not for me to know. But I've been in this scene a long time...10 years ago cheating was not a part of swinging. I do find it rather sad that it's quite accepted now." | |||
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"Are we discussing swinging, or having an affair. 2 totally different things. One includes feelings, dating, meals, wine, presents flowers, overnight love nests, planning and deceiving. The other involves.... sex. I'm not condoning or arguing, just pointing out that sometimes people use this site as a dating site. " It's not so clear cut. Swinging has always had a social side which might include a meal out now and again...sometimes as part of a sexy meet and sometimes just because you get on with the people you're having sex with. | |||
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"i do what i like, with whom i like..no need to justify that to anyone x" Good for you | |||
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"Are we discussing swinging, or having an affair. 2 totally different things. One includes feelings, dating, meals, wine, presents flowers, overnight love nests, planning and deceiving. The other involves.... sex. I'm not condoning or arguing, just pointing out that sometimes people use this site as a dating site. It's not so clear cut. Swinging has always had a social side which might include a meal out now and again...sometimes as part of a sexy meet and sometimes just because you get on with the people you're having sex with." agree, but a social is generally used to ensure both agree boundaries and both are happy to proceed, not to sit holding hands over a candle - lit dinner, discussing how bad their home life is , unless of course, it's a date, which brings us back to the swing or affair part of single or attached. | |||
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"This has been debated to death now its personal choice surely we ve learnt that each to their own " That's true although for some part of the sexual attraction is that sense of honesty and integrity so the moral and the sexual can't be easily disentangled in all cases | |||
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"A man having integrity is a big part of me finding him attractive and therefore being turned on by him. As soon as I know they're cheating, I lose all respect for them, and wouldn't want them anywhere near me. " I think this ties in with how I feel too. | |||
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"A man having integrity is a big part of me finding him attractive and therefore being turned on by him. As soon as I know they're cheating, I lose all respect for them, and wouldn't want them anywhere near me. I think this ties in with how I feel too. " You're only interested in men with integrity? | |||
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"I tend not to meet guys who are cheating because i find they are just after quickies and tend to spend their time clock watching I prefer to meet somebody who has time to put into a meet and while with me not have their mind on other things things like how long have they got before the pubs close and they have to go home " great _iew on this and perfect reason. | |||
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"A man having integrity is a big part of me finding him attractive and therefore being turned on by him. As soon as I know they're cheating, I lose all respect for them, and wouldn't want them anywhere near me. I think this ties in with how I feel too. You're only interested in men with integrity?" It fits in with how I feel. I would be a lot less attracted to a woman if I discovered she was cheating, because I find honesty an attractive trait. And I am turned off by dishonesty. I also take the point about people who are single or who have their partner's permission to play away being less likely to clock-watch, and more likely to have their mind on our play. They're also much less likely to cancel at the last minute. If they've been honest with their own partner, there's no need to cover by claiming they're going to a flower arranging class, or to cancel because hubby decided not to go out and watch the sport with his mates. | |||
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"I'm quite open on my profile about playing without my wife's knowledge. It allows people to make that decision about meeting me immediately without wasting either of our time, but I think the reason for playing away is personal to each individual and I only discuss that with people I have genuinely befriended on here." | |||
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"A man having integrity is a big part of me finding him attractive and therefore being turned on by him. As soon as I know they're cheating, I lose all respect for them, and wouldn't want them anywhere near me. " I some what agree. Weak men are unattractive to me. If you're not happy, leave! | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater " that's interesting. Can you say why? | |||
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"Knowing someone is willing to risk everything for a meeting, I think its the cuckold coming out in us" ok, I see. is it also an ego boost knowing they seem to be willing to risk so much? | |||
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"I don't because I personally would hate to be cheated on, esp on here. Saying that if they don't tell me that's there problem, as I'm a scratcher I had scratch marks down my back after a meet a few weeks ago! Had there been a wife to see them that would've been a major problem to explain!!" Me three, a few weeks ago, with bruises on thighs and breasts. I don't think, "I was attacked by a feral dog," would have got me very far if he didn't know! | |||
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"I don't want the dreaded "Who is this?" phone call from a woman's voice " Reply with 'ypur worst nightmare' followed by an evil laugh. (Just joking ) | |||
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"I don't want the dreaded "Who is this?" phone call from a woman's voice " I don't give my number out so I have no fear of that, I don't even tell most guys I meet my name | |||
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"I don't want the dreaded "Who is this?" phone call from a woman's voice I don't give my number out so I have no fear of that, I don't even tell most guys I meet my name " Do you give out fake names? | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater " I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we. | |||
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"I don't want the dreaded "Who is this?" phone call from a woman's voice I don't give my number out so I have no fear of that, I don't even tell most guys I meet my name Do you give out fake names? " No, I met a guy four times once and never at any of the meets did I ask his name nor he ask mine, most guys just don't ask so that's easy for those who do I just politely say my name's not relivent i never ask people on here what their name is I just don't see what it matter if your only meeting for sex I mean obviously if you have met somebody as a party, chatted at a social that's different, people are bound to get to know your name when your with other people who know you | |||
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"I don't even tell most guys I meet my name " Me too | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we." | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we." | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we." Most people on here don't think about kids though, its not the first thing that comes into your head when your arranging a meet, their kids | |||
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"Something else brought up here...real names. I don't understand not giving one's "real" name. I respect every lady and couple I meet, and that means they are entitled to know my name. The name given in my profile is the truncated form of my full name, and one used by about half the people who know me. Anyone I chat with where it looks like we meet, I tell them the full name. Seems simple, decent respect to me?" Probably has no time to give them out? A case of wham bam, thank you maam? Or am I wrong?..i probably am..as always | |||
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"I'm quite open on my profile about playing without my wife's knowledge. It allows people to make that decision about meeting me immediately without wasting either of our time, but I think the reason for playing away is personal to each individual and I only discuss that with people I have genuinely befriended on here." totally agree with you on the personal circumstances and also have it on my profile | |||
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"We've played with guys who have an unknowing partner before. The way we see it, WE aren't the ones in the wrong. As long as they're prepared to face the consequences if they get found out then so be it. Besides, I bet a pretty good percentage of single males on here aren't quite as single as they say, and it's awkward enough finding someone to meet without ruling out yet more possibilities. " Could'nt agree with you more | |||
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"Honestly could not care less. If they are cheating, it's a symptom of something not quite right in their relationship and it's up to them to tackle the cause, or not. I don't cheat because I have the whole 'open and honest' thing going on. All I ask is that those who do have a partner let me know, so we can make arrangements to be more discreet. However, many of those never make it to 'meet' stage as the ones who actually want to do something are few and far between. Most just want the fantasy." Totally agree | |||
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"In the past I've met married or attached guys for fun and also had an affair with a married guy for a while. Their marital status is theirs, nothing to do with me. I do think the natural reaction is to imagine a sweet woman at home, being a perfect wife and being shamelessly cheated on by some lothario who just can't keep it in his pants. Whilst I'm sure that does happen, it's certainly not always the case. The only people who truly know what is happening in a relationship are the two people who are in it, and therefore nobody else should judge. " | |||
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"Tbh it's none of our business. If that person wants to cheat and can live with their own conscience then it's up to them. We know what we are doing together so we have no problem with it. " | |||
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"i do what i like, with whom i like..no need to justify that to anyone x" good for you girl | |||
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"Something else brought up here...real names. I don't understand not giving one's "real" name. I respect every lady and couple I meet, and that means they are entitled to know my name. The name given in my profile is the truncated form of my full name, and one used by about half the people who know me. Anyone I chat with where it looks like we meet, I tell them the full name. Seems simple, decent respect to me?" Not a case of respect for me It's just a case of its just sex, we meet, we have sex, we go home, they don't need to know my phone number, name or where I live for that As I said above it does depend in the situation though, if I go to a social or a party where I'm socialising its different, as people will introduce you to others etc but just a one off fuck off here I prefer them to know as little about me as possible and I never as them for personal information | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater " Love you guys lol | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we. Most people on here don't think about kids though, its not the first thing that comes into your head when your arranging a meet, their kids " No,but thing's escalate though don't they. One minute it may be a quick shag,then you meet them again and again. The next minute someone slips up wife/husband find's out,then the shit hits the pan... | |||
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" As I said above it does depend in the situation though, if I go to a social or a party where I'm socialising its different, as people will introduce you to others etc but just a one off fuck off here I prefer them to know as little about me as possible and I never as them for personal information " Ah OK. I don't really like to do one off fucks, nor quick meets. So there's a need for a basic level of mutual respect as I am hoping to spend several hours exploring each other's bodies. But yes, if you're just after a one off and quick fuck...perhaps no need. | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we. Most people on here don't think about kids though, its not the first thing that comes into your head when your arranging a meet, their kids No,but thing's escalate though don't they. One minute it may be a quick shag,then you meet them again and again. The next minute someone slips up wife/husband find's out,then the shit hits the pan..." Yeah I'm not defending anybody, my ex left me for a woman we used to meet together and I have three kids, but people don't think about that, I guess people just do what's right for them, other people's problems aren't theirs are they that's the point of swinging you can just walk away | |||
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" As I said above it does depend in the situation though, if I go to a social or a party where I'm socialising its different, as people will introduce you to others etc but just a one off fuck off here I prefer them to know as little about me as possible and I never as them for personal information Ah OK. I don't really like to do one off fucks, nor quick meets. So there's a need for a basic level of mutual respect as I am hoping to spend several hours exploring each other's bodies. But yes, if you're just after a one off and quick fuck...perhaps no need." Hey never said anything about a quick fuck All because Im not intending to meet them again I still expect a decent session, not a half hour fuck and go and I still expect them to pleasure me not just take | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we. Most people on here don't think about kids though, its not the first thing that comes into your head when your arranging a meet, their kids No,but thing's escalate though don't they. One minute it may be a quick shag,then you meet them again and again. The next minute someone slips up wife/husband find's out,then the shit hits the pan... Yeah I'm not defending anybody, my ex left me for a woman we used to meet together and I have three kids, but people don't think about that, I guess people just do what's right for them, other people's problems aren't theirs are they that's the point of swinging you can just walk away " You're right you can,unless of course that wife or husband comes a knocking on your door | |||
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"Fab has a stringent moral code. Should be built into the sign up process." Really?! What moral code would that be then? I suggest people live by their own moral codes & let others live theirs..... | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we. Most people on here don't think about kids though, its not the first thing that comes into your head when your arranging a meet, their kids No,but thing's escalate though don't they. One minute it may be a quick shag,then you meet them again and again. The next minute someone slips up wife/husband find's out,then the shit hits the pan... Yeah I'm not defending anybody, my ex left me for a woman we used to meet together and I have three kids, but people don't think about that, I guess people just do what's right for them, other people's problems aren't theirs are they that's the point of swinging you can just walk away You're right you can,unless of course that wife or husband comes a knocking on your door " Use kik & meet people out of the area in hotels, there's no need to give out anymore personal details than absolutlely necessary. | |||
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"Fab has a stringent moral code. Should be built into the sign up process. Really?! What moral code would that be then? I suggest people live by their own moral codes & let others live theirs..... " The code is: "Swingers break marriage vows." | |||
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"Fab has a stringent moral code. Should be built into the sign up process. Really?! What moral code would that be then? I suggest people live by their own moral codes & let others live theirs..... The code is: "Swingers break marriage vows." " If of course they took traditional vows, if they chose to write their own, they may not have even pledged to be faithful to their spouse forsaking all others. | |||
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"Single girls up for sex!?= sexy! Sluts who wanna suck someone else off = fuck toy + unhygienic... Never the less, bag up bro an let her floss on your pubes if that's what she wants! " L O L | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " This for me is fun. It's taken time to find out what I require from playmates to make it work for me. Being bought a gift of bath products and scent (as used by the wife) and asked to use them prior to play to avoid scent transfer. Clock watching. Cancellations...to name but a few reasons I won't meet married men. | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " | |||
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" If of course they took traditional vows, if they chose to write their own, they may not have even pledged to be faithful to their spouse forsaking all others. " Yep...this.... My wife and I married in America where we were able to look at the vows and alter them. No references to being true to each other, or forsaking all others in our vows and there is no reason why others cannot do the same. | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh..." | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh..." | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh..." Well said | |||
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"Honestly could not care less. If they are cheating, it's a symptom of something not quite right in their relationship and it's up to them to tackle the cause, or not. I don't cheat because I have the whole 'open and honest' thing going on. All I ask is that those who do have a partner let me know, so we can make arrangements to be more discreet. However, many of those never make it to 'meet' stage as the ones who actually want to do something are few and far between. Most just want the fantasy." Totally agree with Elcee | |||
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"If someone is in a loving, happy, but sexless marriage with a spouse who expects faithfulness, that person has 3 choices: a lifetime of celebacy, finding sex elsewhere, or leaving. Unless there's a valid medical reason, a partner who refuses sex simply doesn't love you. They love the situation." Absolute rubbish. Of course it's far more complex than that. | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. " We have the same situation | |||
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"If someone is in a loving, happy, but sexless marriage with a spouse who expects faithfulness, that person has 3 choices: a lifetime of celebacy, finding sex elsewhere, or leaving. Unless there's a valid medical reason, a partner who refuses sex simply doesn't love you. They love the situation. Absolute rubbish. Of course it's far more complex than that. " No, it's not. Love is about meeting your partner's needs. It's really that simple. Everything else is about how people justify their actions to themselves. | |||
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"Seen a lot of abuse towards cheaters etc on here. I personally am against meeting someone playing behind their partner's back, but it's got me thinking. What are your reasons for not wanting to meet someone who is cheating? Or are you someone that is ok wit it? Would like to know from both sides to see what everyone thinks regarding this touchy subject. No catty comments please. Let's all play nicely.x " I prefer not to meet people who play behind their partners back, much better to be honest . | |||
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"If someone is in a loving, happy, but sexless marriage with a spouse who expects faithfulness, that person has 3 choices: a lifetime of celebacy, finding sex elsewhere, or leaving. Unless there's a valid medical reason, a partner who refuses sex simply doesn't love you. They love the situation." Whilst I wouldn't condone cheating I think that is very harsh, to say someone with issues regarding libido can't love someone is a very black and white way of looking at it | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... " My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. | |||
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"If someone is in a loving, happy, but sexless marriage with a spouse who expects faithfulness, that person has 3 choices: a lifetime of celebacy, finding sex elsewhere, or leaving. Unless there's a valid medical reason, a partner who refuses sex simply doesn't love you. They love the situation. Whilst I wouldn't condone cheating I think that is very harsh, to say someone with issues regarding libido can't love someone is a very black and white way of looking at it" You can have a low libido but still make the effort to satisfy. If couples only ever had sex when they were both rampant, there would be a hell of a lot of sexless relationships. It's about communication and understanding. For women in particular, having relationship issues outside the bedroom can influence their desire for their partner. | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. We have the same situation " I hate to burst your bubble but swinging couples can still cheat, seen the fallout on here & been messaged on numerous times asking to meet. hopefully this won't apply to you! | |||
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"Fab has a stringent moral code. Should be built into the sign up process. Really?! What moral code would that be then? I suggest people live by their own moral codes & let others live theirs..... The code is: "Swingers break marriage vows." " Not all | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. " Sounds like she got the tired old "poor me and my awful wife" line.. | |||
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"If someone is in a loving, happy, but sexless marriage with a spouse who expects faithfulness, that person has 3 choices: a lifetime of celebacy, finding sex elsewhere, or leaving. Unless there's a valid medical reason, a partner who refuses sex simply doesn't love you. They love the situation. Absolute rubbish. Of course it's far more complex than that. No, it's not. Love is about meeting your partner's needs. It's really that simple. Everything else is about how people justify their actions to themselves." If the woman isn't putting out, her needs aren't being met by the man. So, by your standards, the man doesn't love her. You're over simplifying that scenario by a very long way. | |||
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"If someone is in a loving, happy, but sexless marriage with a spouse who expects faithfulness, that person has 3 choices: a lifetime of celebacy, finding sex elsewhere, or leaving. Unless there's a valid medical reason, a partner who refuses sex simply doesn't love you. They love the situation. Absolute rubbish. Of course it's far more complex than that. No, it's not. Love is about meeting your partner's needs. It's really that simple. Everything else is about how people justify their actions to themselves. If the woman isn't putting out, her needs aren't being met by the man. So, by your standards, the man doesn't love her. You're over simplifying that scenario by a very long way. " Why are their needs not being met? Two possibilities really - they have failed to communicate them, or they have and the other person doesn't respond, because they don't really love them. Again, communication and being willing to meet the other's needs. It works both ways. | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. Sounds like she got the tired old "poor me and my awful wife" line.." np actually i got the 'hes done it before' line..and i went well you now you have tan empowered choice, you can still stay with him, or, you can do the leaving. ita your life, no one can own him and no one owns you..take some self responsibility and good luck with your life choices.. | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. We have the same situation I hate to burst your bubble but swinging couples can still cheat, seen the fallout on here & been messaged on numerous times asking to meet. hopefully this won't apply to you!" Oh dear we have never thought it was possible but you've now put a massive ? In to our lifes, we're not sure if we want to continue now . We have no need to cheat on each other but you are right yes it can still happen. | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. " Leaving isn't always the right thing to do, or the best thing to do, or even possible to do. The married guy I saw for almost 4 years (on and off) was possibly one of the loneliest, emotionally and sexually neglected people I've ever met. He had been in an unhappy, sexless marriage with zero affection from his wife for a long time, had two children, and worked away. When he was home he filled his time with the kids. His wife enjoyed spending his wages and going out getting d*unk all weekend while "the babysitter" was home. He had no relationship with her whatsoever and he had lived like that for a long time. His needs weren't being fulfilled at all and he was desperately unhappy. It took years before he even considered getting affection and sex elsewhere. If he left, the short time he had with his kids due to working away would have been reduced further according to whatever custody / visiting arrangements would be agreed, and his kids are everything to him. Or he could stay, take as much precaution as possible to ensure his wife didn't find out what he was doing with me, and the rest of their lives carry on as normal. As per my earlier post, not all people who cheat are heartless and just after a shag. We shouldn't assume they are. | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama" i might want to have sex with them..simple..like any man of any couple here..itssex i dont want to have a relationship with them...a friendship yeah maybe.. sex is fun and according to couples/ singles, married or not, on here, its NSA..so i dont know why all of a sudden its this sacred act that denotes your moral status...every animal does it...its normal to want it, its normal to do it and its normal to be a social animal and interrelate with more than one member of the species at once...taming nature is impossible..it just leads to a whole lot of unnecessary misery..i hug all my friends..not one of my friends objects, if i hug one of the others..sex is only an extension of expression.... | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama i might want to have sex with them..simple..like any man of any couple here..itssex i dont want to have a relationship with them...a friendship yeah maybe.. sex is fun and according to couples/ singles, married or not, on here, its NSA..so i dont know why all of a sudden its this sacred act that denotes your moral status...every animal does it...its normal to want it, its normal to do it and its normal to be a social animal and interrelate with more than one member of the species at once...taming nature is impossible..it just leads to a whole lot of unnecessary misery..i hug all my friends..not one of my friends objects, if i hug one of the others..sex is only an extension of expression...." Agree absolutely, but i also agree with another persons right to not think this way and choose not to meet them. | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. We have the same situation I hate to burst your bubble but swinging couples can still cheat, seen the fallout on here & been messaged on numerous times asking to meet. hopefully this won't apply to you! Oh dear we have never thought it was possible but you've now put a massive ? In to our lifes, we're not sure if we want to continue now . We have no need to cheat on each other but you are right yes it can still happen. " I don't know if I should say this but I was messaged by a guy whose name starts with an L (or an R), lives in Swindon and is 81 years old. | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama i might want to have sex with them..simple..like any man of any couple here..itssex i dont want to have a relationship with them...a friendship yeah maybe.. sex is fun and according to couples/ singles, married or not, on here, its NSA..so i dont know why all of a sudden its this sacred act that denotes your moral status...every animal does it...its normal to want it, its normal to do it and its normal to be a social animal and interrelate with more than one member of the species at once...taming nature is impossible..it just leads to a whole lot of unnecessary misery..i hug all my friends..not one of my friends objects, if i hug one of the others..sex is only an extension of expression...." Honey bunch, you do whatever you like. But I won't meet a cheater | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama i might want to have sex with them..simple..like any man of any couple here..itssex i dont want to have a relationship with them...a friendship yeah maybe.. sex is fun and according to couples/ singles, married or not, on here, its NSA..so i dont know why all of a sudden its this sacred act that denotes your moral status...every animal does it...its normal to want it, its normal to do it and its normal to be a social animal and interrelate with more than one member of the species at once...taming nature is impossible..it just leads to a whole lot of unnecessary misery..i hug all my friends..not one of my friends objects, if i hug one of the others..sex is only an extension of expression.... Agree absolutely, but i also agree with another persons right to not think this way and choose not to meet them. " excellent, then we agree on something..do what you want, with who you want..its no one elses business xx | |||
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"Massive turn on for us to meet a cheater I find that quite a horrifying statement,especially as children are more often involved in cheating as well. I'll never forget how traumatised my kid's were and cradling my 6 year old who was devastated on the day her dad left for good is something I won't forget. We're all different though aren't we. Most people on here don't think about kids though, its not the first thing that comes into your head when your arranging a meet, their kids No,but thing's escalate though don't they. One minute it may be a quick shag,then you meet them again and again. The next minute someone slips up wife/husband find's out,then the shit hits the pan... Yeah I'm not defending anybody, my ex left me for a woman we used to meet together and I have three kids, but people don't think about that, I guess people just do what's right for them, other people's problems aren't theirs are they that's the point of swinging you can just walk away You're right you can,unless of course that wife or husband comes a knocking on your door " In which case I would invite them in for a brew and a chat. I haven't done everything wrong, and they deserve an open talk with someone. | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama i might want to have sex with them..simple..like any man of any couple here..itssex i dont want to have a relationship with them...a friendship yeah maybe.. sex is fun and according to couples/ singles, married or not, on here, its NSA..so i dont know why all of a sudden its this sacred act that denotes your moral status...every animal does it...its normal to want it, its normal to do it and its normal to be a social animal and interrelate with more than one member of the species at once...taming nature is impossible..it just leads to a whole lot of unnecessary misery..i hug all my friends..not one of my friends objects, if i hug one of the others..sex is only an extension of expression.... Honey bunch, you do whatever you like. But I won't meet a cheater " i shall i never needed your permission, in the first place..sweety pie... | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. Leaving isn't always the right thing to do, or the best thing to do, or even possible to do. The married guy I saw for almost 4 years (on and off) was possibly one of the loneliest, emotionally and sexually neglected people I've ever met. He had been in an unhappy, sexless marriage with zero affection from his wife for a long time, had two children, and worked away. When he was home he filled his time with the kids. His wife enjoyed spending his wages and going out getting d*unk all weekend while "the babysitter" was home. He had no relationship with her whatsoever and he had lived like that for a long time. His needs weren't being fulfilled at all and he was desperately unhappy. It took years before he even considered getting affection and sex elsewhere. If he left, the short time he had with his kids due to working away would have been reduced further according to whatever custody / visiting arrangements would be agreed, and his kids are everything to him. Or he could stay, take as much precaution as possible to ensure his wife didn't find out what he was doing with me, and the rest of their lives carry on as normal. As per my earlier post, not all people who cheat are heartless and just after a shag. We shouldn't assume they are. " I'd happily bet that the wife was enjoying life else where as well. | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. We have the same situation I hate to burst your bubble but swinging couples can still cheat, seen the fallout on here & been messaged on numerous times asking to meet. hopefully this won't apply to you! Oh dear we have never thought it was possible but you've now put a massive ? In to our lifes, we're not sure if we want to continue now . We have no need to cheat on each other but you are right yes it can still happen. I don't know if I should say this but I was messaged by a guy whose name starts with an L (or an R), lives in Swindon and is 81 years old. " Lol your point is? Our profile is their to be read lol | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama i might want to have sex with them..simple..like any man of any couple here..itssex i dont want to have a relationship with them...a friendship yeah maybe.. sex is fun and according to couples/ singles, married or not, on here, its NSA..so i dont know why all of a sudden its this sacred act that denotes your moral status...every animal does it...its normal to want it, its normal to do it and its normal to be a social animal and interrelate with more than one member of the species at once...taming nature is impossible..it just leads to a whole lot of unnecessary misery..i hug all my friends..not one of my friends objects, if i hug one of the others..sex is only an extension of expression.... Agree absolutely, but i also agree with another persons right to not think this way and choose not to meet them. excellent, then we agree on something..do what you want, with who you want..its no one elses business xx" I do agree, but i also think people who don't agree get jumped on and preached to when they have the same right to think what they want too. Although if it stopped thet woul be the end of the forums | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. Leaving isn't always the right thing to do, or the best thing to do, or even possible to do. The married guy I saw for almost 4 years (on and off) was possibly one of the loneliest, emotionally and sexually neglected people I've ever met. He had been in an unhappy, sexless marriage with zero affection from his wife for a long time, had two children, and worked away. When he was home he filled his time with the kids. His wife enjoyed spending his wages and going out getting d*unk all weekend while "the babysitter" was home. He had no relationship with her whatsoever and he had lived like that for a long time. His needs weren't being fulfilled at all and he was desperately unhappy. It took years before he even considered getting affection and sex elsewhere. If he left, the short time he had with his kids due to working away would have been reduced further according to whatever custody / visiting arrangements would be agreed, and his kids are everything to him. Or he could stay, take as much precaution as possible to ensure his wife didn't find out what he was doing with me, and the rest of their lives carry on as normal. As per my earlier post, not all people who cheat are heartless and just after a shag. We shouldn't assume they are. I'd happily bet that the wife was enjoying life else where as well. " Yep that was my thinking too | |||
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"When we first joined here , we met a guy Afew times he became a regular playmate , about a year later we start getting angry texts/emails from his other half ( he said he was single met in the evenings we had no idea he was was with someone ) threats to post pictures all over our Facebook , threats to send them to our bosses, post them around our kids school etc .....the guy had forgotten to delete emails and his wife found them, that's why we don't play with cheaters " if she was that vindictive a character, imagine what he was putting up with, im sure she deserved it... | |||
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"When we first joined here , we met a guy Afew times he became a regular playmate , about a year later we start getting angry texts/emails from his other half ( he said he was single met in the evenings we had no idea he was was with someone ) threats to post pictures all over our Facebook , threats to send them to our bosses, post them around our kids school etc .....the guy had forgotten to delete emails and his wife found them, that's why we don't play with cheaters if she was that vindictive a character, imagine what he was putting up with, im sure she deserved it..." | |||
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"When we first joined here , we met a guy Afew times he became a regular playmate , about a year later we start getting angry texts/emails from his other half ( he said he was single met in the evenings we had no idea he was was with someone ) threats to post pictures all over our Facebook , threats to send them to our bosses, post them around our kids school etc .....the guy had forgotten to delete emails and his wife found them, that's why we don't play with cheaters " Has happened twice. Once it was a tearful wife sending a text along the lines of "please do not destroy my life". I didn't even know that the b**tard was married! The other took matters a bit further and was parked in my driveway when I returned home. I thought it was going to come to fisticuffs or at the least, handbags at dawn | |||
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" telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh..." I wouldn't tell anyone they shouldn't sleep with someone who's married and cheating what someone else does has nothing to do with me,I just don't understand how some people can be openly gloating about doing it and think it's hilarious that they do that for kicks when there could be so much at stake and hurt so many people,most of all their cildren! You say most people lie,I've never lied to the extent that that lie may temporarily destroy someone's life. All I know is how having a husband who had an affair which was just sex devastated mine and my children's life for a while and the effects don't vanish they are still there in my children to one degree or another and myself. | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. We have the same situation I hate to burst your bubble but swinging couples can still cheat, seen the fallout on here & been messaged on numerous times asking to meet. hopefully this won't apply to you! Oh dear we have never thought it was possible but you've now put a massive ? In to our lifes, we're not sure if we want to continue now . We have no need to cheat on each other but you are right yes it can still happen. I don't know if I should say this but I was messaged by a guy whose name starts with an L (or an R), lives in Swindon and is 81 years old. Lol your point is? Our profile is their to be read lol" Just thought I'd mention [ and hopefully stir some trouble ] | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama" Pick of thousands ?! Blimey what other site are you on.... I've discovered over the years there are not that many men / women of a certain age who meet my criteria looks / personality wise who don't have some kind of attachment. | |||
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"When we first joined here , we met a guy Afew times he became a regular playmate , about a year later we start getting angry texts/emails from his other half ( he said he was single met in the evenings we had no idea he was was with someone ) threats to post pictures all over our Facebook , threats to send them to our bosses, post them around our kids school etc .....the guy had forgotten to delete emails and his wife found them, that's why we don't play with cheaters if she was that vindictive a character, imagine what he was putting up with, im sure she deserved it..." Hell hath no fury | |||
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"Why bother meeting a guy who is cheating when I could take my pick of the thousands who aren't. He is not worth the hassle nor the ensuing drama Pick of thousands ?! Blimey what other site are you on.... I've discovered over the years there are not that many men / women of a certain age who meet my criteria looks / personality wise who don't have some kind of attachment. " Pick of thousands does not mean sleep with all of them. Just means that the potential exists You should try to be choosy. With my criteria, there are about a dozen who might fit the bill; but I still won't meet a cheater just because he happens to meet my other requirements. I would hate getting my car keyed | |||
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" telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... I wouldn't tell anyone they shouldn't sleep with someone who's married and cheating what someone else does has nothing to do with me,I just don't understand how some people can be openly gloating about doing it and think it's hilarious that they do that for kicks when there could be so much at stake and hurt so many people,most of all their cildren! You say most people lie,I've never lied to the extent that that lie may temporarily destroy someone's life. All I know is how having a husband who had an affair which was just sex devastated mine and my children's life for a while and the effects don't vanish they are still there in my children to one degree or another and myself." people are people, takes all sorts. people effect people all the time, thats life. im not a deliberate pain maker i am just an active member of life. shit happens to everyone and experiences are for your soul to evolve, life and nature isnt all happy bunnies and flowers' you wont ever stop foxes fromeating bunny rabbits..it is the way it is and emotional pain is usually down to expectations...because you hinged them on someone or something else. i hope you live your life for you now and do what you want and im sure your kids will live their lives and find and do what they want also..controlling people isnt something we can do, so why both assuming we can? | |||
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"Don't think cheating has anything to with Fab. Human beings have cheated since the dawn of time. In some periods of history it was the norm for a man of certain social standing to have a mistress. Current UK statistics are that 45% of British men have cheated at some point, with stats for women a little lower but still high. Thankfully my husband can't cheat because he has my permission to do what nearly half the male population apparently will do at some point. We have the same situation I hate to burst your bubble but swinging couples can still cheat, seen the fallout on here & been messaged on numerous times asking to meet. hopefully this won't apply to you! Oh dear we have never thought it was possible but you've now put a massive ? In to our lifes, we're not sure if we want to continue now . We have no need to cheat on each other but you are right yes it can still happen. I don't know if I should say this but I was messaged by a guy whose name starts with an L (or an R), lives in Swindon and is 81 years old. Lol your point is? Our profile is their to be read lol Just thought I'd mention [ and hopefully stir some trouble ]" Ha ha ha What trouble is there to stir? J, I'd love to meet lol | |||
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"no one mentions how many families are kept together, sometimes for years because of someone getting what they cant get from home, elsewhere.. THAT is also why couples on the swinging scene do it..'it adds to their relationship'you are the same as them otherwise you wouldnt be swinging... that it deepens your 'love' for each other by being poly...you don't have exclusive rights to this... ive been on the receiving end of one of those women who found out...quite frankly i understand why he was doing it...and i told her so too..she then had the freedom to stay with him or leave..again thats her choice, i was just the catalyst.. telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh... My lies don't expose anyone to a life changing situation without their knowledge. The woman the man you had was so bad you understood why he cheated on her, but didn't he leave her. Ya. Get real. Leaving isn't always the right thing to do, or the best thing to do, or even possible to do. The married guy I saw for almost 4 years (on and off) was possibly one of the loneliest, emotionally and sexually neglected people I've ever met. He had been in an unhappy, sexless marriage with zero affection from his wife for a long time, had two children, and worked away. When he was home he filled his time with the kids. His wife enjoyed spending his wages and going out getting d*unk all weekend while "the babysitter" was home. He had no relationship with her whatsoever and he had lived like that for a long time. His needs weren't being fulfilled at all and he was desperately unhappy. It took years before he even considered getting affection and sex elsewhere. If he left, the short time he had with his kids due to working away would have been reduced further according to whatever custody / visiting arrangements would be agreed, and his kids are everything to him. Or he could stay, take as much precaution as possible to ensure his wife didn't find out what he was doing with me, and the rest of their lives carry on as normal. As per my earlier post, not all people who cheat are heartless and just after a shag. We shouldn't assume they are. " Wonder what her version was... | |||
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"When we first joined here , we met a guy Afew times he became a regular playmate , about a year later we start getting angry texts/emails from his other half ( he said he was single met in the evenings we had no idea he was was with someone ) threats to post pictures all over our Facebook , threats to send them to our bosses, post them around our kids school etc .....the guy had forgotten to delete emails and his wife found them, that's why we don't play with cheaters if she was that vindictive a character, imagine what he was putting up with, im sure she deserved it...Hell hath no fury " how sad she thinks either he or i would be so important to her own emotional well being..she should look at her own character before trying to assassinate mine.. | |||
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" telling me, i shouldn't sleep with married men, is like telling me directly that i shouldn't sleep with couples on here. you cant tell me its ok to commit adultery with one person and not another, because of their kids or their partner..that is just illogical..so i have no morals on the marriage status..as for lying. everyone lies..who's to say your lie is any more moral than anyone elses.... makes me laugh..." I wouldn't tell anyone they shouldn't sleep with someone who's married and cheating what someone else does has nothing to do with me,I just don't understand how some people can be openly gloating about doing it and think it's hilarious that they do that for kicks when there could be so much at stake and hurt so many people,most of all their cildren! You say most people lie,I've never lied to the extent that that lie may temporarily destroy someone's life. All I know is how having a husband who had an affair which was just sex devastated mine and my children's life for a while and the effects don't vanish they are still there in my children to one degree or another and myself. I have no desire to control anyone. People can justify a million time's the reason's they have sex with someone who's cheating I'll still never understand it...The whole thing saddens me. | |||
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"Personally I would not arrange a meet with a cheat. Firstly the honesty thing...if she is prepared to lie to her partner, presumably someone very important in her life, I really doubt she can be honest with me. I then have cause to doubt anything she says about her sexual health, sexual history...and so on. But perhaps more important, I have witnessed the damage cheating can do even when one partner does not know the other is cheating....they are being hurt....the secretive texting, working late or finding courses 100 miles away to go on...visiting the gym and so on...the cheating partner spends a lot less time with their spouse and the relationship is damaged. I've seen it too many times and do not wish to be a part of that. And if the innocent party does find out...the fallout is horrendous. I've known a friend who was "the other woman" and having an angry wife phone up or even turn up on the doorstep is no fun. So I will not knowingly be a part of cheating. If I happen to meet someone at a club and their partner doesn't know they are there, that's probably simply not for me to know. But I've been in this scene a long time...10 years ago cheating was not a part of swinging. I do find it rather sad that it's quite accepted now." | |||
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