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"Seriously Yay or nay" yes | |||
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"Nope xx " Jesus your ass is amazing  | |||
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"No I love meeting bi men "Why are u so far away | |||
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"No " Jesus you are hot | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay" Why even ask, OP? Surely the answer is obvious. Some do, some don't and for some it is not the determing factor. Have you not got the hang of this thing yet? | |||
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"Every woman I've met has been very enthused about me being bisexual so it's a yes from me. " You're hot and funny too, which helps | |||
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"Shaz won't play with a bi man but she happy to play with a very bi woman "Ah, but would you rule out bi women who have had sex with bi men? | |||
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"Gotta love the bi guys! "Fuk me | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay" Not this one | |||
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"Based on the the number of 'straight' men that contact me on here I suspect that the truth is that the idea of bi men turns some women off even though they meet and enjoy the company of some very bi liars."  very true... | |||
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"Shaz won't play with a bi man but she happy to play with a very bi woman
Ah, but would you rule out bi women who have had sex with bi men? "No she wouldn't. | |||
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"In my experience women are completely homophobic in who they date/hook up with. Most, barring a few outliers will not countenance the idea of a bi guy. Of course if this were the other way around we'd call the guys bigots. But it's not so that's alright. Women are more than happy to pretend to be more liberal than they are by annexing the gay community for their BFFs, but the idea of actually being with a bisexual guy disgusts most of them on a visceral level. And perhaps they ought to have a word with themselves about what it says about them. They won't of course because they don't need to. " wow what a thought provoking response.. thing is in this day and age more and mroe guys are experiencing same se fun but are still labelling themselves as straight, so in honesty if the guys are not up front how would the lady ever know? | |||
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"In my experience women are completely homophobic in who they date/hook up with. Most, barring a few outliers will not countenance the idea of a bi guy. Of course if this were the other way around we'd call the guys bigots. But it's not so that's alright. Women are more than happy to pretend to be more liberal than they are by annexing the gay community for their BFFs, but the idea of actually being with a bisexual guy disgusts most of them on a visceral level. And perhaps they ought to have a word with themselves about what it says about them. They won't of course because they don't need to. " Shaz isn't homophobic, she just choses not to play with bi guys and what someone thinks of her because she won't don't bother us in the slightest | |||
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"In my experience women are completely homophobic in who they date/hook up with. Most, barring a few outliers will not countenance the idea of a bi guy. Of course if this were the other way around we'd call the guys bigots. But it's not so that's alright. Women are more than happy to pretend to be more liberal than they are by annexing the gay community for their BFFs, but the idea of actually being with a bisexual guy disgusts most of them on a visceral level. And perhaps they ought to have a word with themselves about what it says about them. They won't of course because they don't need to. " As a bi guy, I have to say I find that to be a huge generalisation - you've only got to look at this thread for evidence that there are actually plenty of women who DO actually like, and in some cases seek out, bi guys. Have been to several bi nights at our local club too where there are plenty of women who attend and indulge themselves with bi guys. So to say "barring a few outliers" is totally wide of the mark. Sorry if that's been your experience, but it's certainly not been ours. Mr G | |||
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"In my experience women are completely homophobic in who they date/hook up with. Most, barring a few outliers will not countenance the idea of a bi guy. Of course if this were the other way around we'd call the guys bigots. But it's not so that's alright. Women are more than happy to pretend to be more liberal than they are by annexing the gay community for their BFFs, but the idea of actually being with a bisexual guy disgusts most of them on a visceral level. And perhaps they ought to have a word with themselves about what it says about them. They won't of course because they don't need to. " But why does being heterosexual annoy some bisexual men? If people choose not to meet bisexual men it's up to them. They're not bigoted or anything. I wouldn't expect a gay man to want to meet me. I genuinely don't understand why some bi men get so annoyed about it. | |||
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"In my experience women are completely homophobic in who they date/hook up with. Most, barring a few outliers will not countenance the idea of a bi guy. Of course if this were the other way around we'd call the guys bigots. But it's not so that's alright. Women are more than happy to pretend to be more liberal than they are by annexing the gay community for their BFFs, but the idea of actually being with a bisexual guy disgusts most of them on a visceral level. And perhaps they ought to have a word with themselves about what it says about them. They won't of course because they don't need to. " I have to disagree I don't think most women are like this at all When I go to bi nights at clubs there have always been loads of women joining in with bi guys There are loads of couples with bi guys on here I'm not saying there isn't woman who dislike bi men but I don't think think the numbers are as high as your suggesting | |||
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"Me and 2..3..4 bi guys? Oh yes please "Where does the queue start?
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" Shaz isn't homophobic, she just choses not to play with bi guys and what someone thinks of her because she won't don't bother us in the slightest "Well that's fine, everyone can chose who to play with and who not to play with. And technically it doesn't affect me since I'm still in that "bi curious" phase where I've had some attraction but never actually had so much as a kiss with a guy. But, all that being said, while it is entirely shaz's choice what she does and you are both entitled to disregard any labels people put on her for those choices, it doesn't affect whether the label is accurate. The idea that a person would refuse an otherwise viable candidate based purely on the fact of their sexual orientation where it doesn't affect the dynamics of that proposed meet, is hard to consider anything but bigotry. A bi guy is not a gay guy. Because a gay guy would not sleep with a woman. Generally. To compare the two in this context is a straw man. Fundamentally rejecting a guy for being bi means you consider him in some way "tainted" by the fact he is bi. And that's not homophobic? It's the very definition. This sort of thing is why I haven't explored my bi side yet. And probably never will. Because too large a proportion of the female demographic are fundamentally homophobic. Yes they can be friends with a gay guy, or even a bi guy, but if you explore that side of yourself as a man you cut out a large portion of your potential dating pool. Ultimately I'm not going to change anyone's mind here, these beliefs run deep and no amount of logic is going to alter them, but I find it regrettable that men aren't afforded the same opportunity to explore themselves without judgement or penalty that women are. | |||
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"I don't meet Bi men xxx" You wouldnt know. | |||
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" Shaz isn't homophobic, she just choses not to play with bi guys and what someone thinks of her because she won't don't bother us in the slightest
Well that's fine, everyone can chose who to play with and who not to play with. And technically it doesn't affect me since I'm still in that "bi curious" phase where I've had some attraction but never actually had so much as a kiss with a guy.
But, all that being said, while it is entirely shaz's choice what she does and you are both entitled to disregard any labels people put on her for those choices, it doesn't affect whether the label is accurate.
The idea that a person would refuse an otherwise viable candidate based purely on the fact of their sexual orientation where it doesn't affect the dynamics of that proposed meet, is hard to consider anything but bigotry.
A bi guy is not a gay guy. Because a gay guy would not sleep with a woman. Generally. To compare the two in this context is a straw man. Fundamentally rejecting a guy for being bi means you consider him in some way "tainted" by the fact he is bi.
And that's not homophobic? It's the very definition.
This sort of thing is why I haven't explored my bi side yet. And probably never will. Because too large a proportion of the female demographic are fundamentally homophobic. Yes they can be friends with a gay guy, or even a bi guy, but if you explore that side of yourself as a man you cut out a large portion of your potential dating pool.
Ultimately I'm not going to change anyone's mind here, these beliefs run deep and no amount of logic is going to alter them, but I find it regrettable that men aren't afforded the same opportunity to explore themselves without judgement or penalty that women are. "You don't know the reason why Shaz won't play with bi guys so still you can't call it "bigotry" or anything else.. And no, it's not based "purely on their sexual orientation". Caling it homophobic or bigotry just because someone won't have fun with a bi guy/girl/whatever I think is a little crazy. | |||
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"In my experience women are completely homophobic in who they date/hook up with. Most, barring a few outliers will not countenance the idea of a bi guy. Of course if this were the other way around we'd call the guys bigots. But it's not so that's alright. Women are more than happy to pretend to be more liberal than they are by annexing the gay community for their BFFs, but the idea of actually being with a bisexual guy disgusts most of them on a visceral level. And perhaps they ought to have a word with themselves about what it says about them. They won't of course because they don't need to. wow what a thought provoking response.. thing is in this day and age more and mroe guys are experiencing same se fun but are still labelling themselves as straight, so in honesty if the guys are not up front how would the lady ever know?" Certainly a lot of men could lie about it, and ultimately an argument could be made that it's perfectly morally acceptable to do so, given that ultimately almost everyone lies about something to improve their chances. But it's just not how I operate, I have been dishonest at times, but I'm always honest about exactly WHAT I am. Which is why I dont progress with men, because I'd then have to admit to that going forward and basically never get laid again. Well that's one of the reasons anyway, the other is that I'm usually in a relationship. And while my last 2 have both been with people who consider themselves open minded, were bisexual themselves, did plenty of FFMs, and claimed to be fully supportive of my exploring my bi side, I have never been able to trust that they would look at me the same way afterwards. Knowing how large a proportion of women simply cannot accept it. It's always seemed like something likely to kill the relationship. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. " Wise words man. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man. "Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity. Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch."Are we really? Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?  | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men? "You are free to do whatever you wish. And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works. "What? He is or you are. You seem terribly annoyed that some women choose not to meet bisexual men. It's no big deal. Concern yourself with your own happiness. Oh and I'm far from fickle. I just choose what I prefer like any normal sane person does. Calling women fickle is not going to change that. Fucking unbelievable. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
What? He is or you are. You seem terribly annoyed that some women choose not to meet bisexual men. It's no big deal. Concern yourself with your own happiness. Oh and I'm far from fickle. I just choose what I prefer like any normal sane person does. Calling women fickle is not going to change that. Fucking unbelievable."Bigotry does tend to annoy. Sorry if that bothers you. He certainly is, and yes, I am also. As for it being no big deal, well I suppose you are right, it's not life or death. Does mean that men don't have anything like equality of opportunity when it comes to sexuality. Since as a man with bi curiosity you have a choice, explore your sexuality and gamble that you might enjoy it enough to make it worth pretty much quartering your chances of getting a woman ever again (unless you lie about it). Or accept that you can't ever satisfy that curiosity. I wouldn't necessarily say that the previous poster is correct to say fickle. At least not on this issue. Women are actually rather static on this matter. But ultimately yes it is bound to annoy people, it's a plain double standard. Among many employed by women, which does in fact affect bi men. And I guarantee you this, if men suddenly decided to treat bi women the same way, you would be calling it bigotry too. But much as with everything else, it doesn't matter if it's not affecting women. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works. "lol, here is my revised advice. There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts. A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again A Life Partner/wife: Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right. It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T. A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship. Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.  | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
What? He is or you are. You seem terribly annoyed that some women choose not to meet bisexual men. It's no big deal. Concern yourself with your own happiness. Oh and I'm far from fickle. I just choose what I prefer like any normal sane person does. Calling women fickle is not going to change that. Fucking unbelievable.
Bigotry does tend to annoy. Sorry if that bothers you.
He certainly is, and yes, I am also.
As for it being no big deal, well I suppose you are right, it's not life or death. Does mean that men don't have anything like equality of opportunity when it comes to sexuality. Since as a man with bi curiosity you have a choice, explore your sexuality and gamble that you might enjoy it enough to make it worth pretty much quartering your chances of getting a woman ever again (unless you lie about it). Or accept that you can't ever satisfy that curiosity.
I wouldn't necessarily say that the previous poster is correct to say fickle. At least not on this issue. Women are actually rather static on this matter. But ultimately yes it is bound to annoy people, it's a plain double standard. Among many employed by women, which does in fact affect bi men. And I guarantee you this, if men suddenly decided to treat bi women the same way, you would be calling it bigotry too.
But much as with everything else, it doesn't matter if it's not affecting women. "You're last paragraph is ridiculous. On this thread alone the vast majority of women love bisexual men so why are you focusing on the ones that prefer not to meet bisexual men? Throwing words like bigotry about isn't going to help. If someone doesn't want to meet me for whatever reason I don't start insulting them. People are allowed to choose you know. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom. "There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem."But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem.
But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience."Well I was talking about on here. Not everyone will like everyone and to call people bigoted because of that is wrong and childish. Best off concentrating on people who do like bi men. | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay" I find this also.. Ladies are put off and even blokes looking for MMF are put off. They must think you'll start touching them lol!! Meeting for a MMF & a BI-MMF are very different. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem.
But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience.
Well I was talking about on here.
Not everyone will like everyone and to call people bigoted because of that is wrong and childish.
Best off concentrating on people who do like bi men."For the record, I haven't said anyone is a bigot. It's just that what women say is ok - generally and in society - and what they will accept in real life, of an established or potential partner are two different things. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem.
But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience.
Well I was talking about on here.
Not everyone will like everyone and to call people bigoted because of that is wrong and childish.
Best off concentrating on people who do like bi men.
For the record, I haven't said anyone is a bigot. It's just that what women say is ok - generally and in society - and what they will accept in real life, of an established or potential partner are two different things."I don't, when I say I wouldn't meet or want to be with a bisexual man, I actually do mean it | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay I find this also.. Ladies are put off and even blokes looking for MMF are put off. They must think you'll start touching them lol!! Meeting for a MMF & a BI-MMF are very different. "I asked a question on another thread a while back whether or not there was a difference between mmf and mfm and from what i remember the answer was yes. If writtern as mmf its taken as bi. Many will disagree but to save confusion since then we've always wrote mfm. | |||
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"Shaz won't play with a bi man but she happy to play with a very bi woman
Ah, but would you rule out bi women who have had sex with bi men? "For me... Yes ...simple answer. | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay I find this also.. Ladies are put off and even blokes looking for MMF are put off. They must think you'll start touching them lol!! Meeting for a MMF & a BI-MMF are very different.
I asked a question on another thread a while back whether or not there was a difference between mmf and mfm and from what i remember the answer was yes. If writtern as mmf its taken as bi.
Many will disagree but to save confusion since then we've always wrote mfm."As I read it MFM puts the woman in the middle ie. no MM contact. | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay I find this also.. Ladies are put off and even blokes looking for MMF are put off. They must think you'll start touching them lol!! Meeting for a MMF & a BI-MMF are very different.
I asked a question on another thread a while back whether or not there was a difference between mmf and mfm and from what i remember the answer was yes. If writtern as mmf its taken as bi.
Many will disagree but to save confusion since then we've always wrote mfm."I remember that thread....I think the majority may say no difference especially as most straight on here are fab straight..but Being 100 straight I don't see any difference between mmf, mfm. Both involve 2 men. | |||
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"Shaz won't play with a bi man but she happy to play with a very bi woman
Ah, but would you rule out bi women who have had sex with bi men?
For me...
Yes ...simple answer. "How about straight women who have had sex with bi men? | |||
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"Shaz won't play with a bi man but she happy to play with a very bi woman
Ah, but would you rule out bi women who have had sex with bi men?
For me...
Yes ...simple answer.
How about straight women who have had sex with bi men? "lol....wouldn't come near my todger either  | |||
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"After reading this thread. I'm starting to believe bi men are the new black/Asian guys. If you don't want to meet them. You're a bigot "I'm going to stop meeting men who have been with bi woman Pervy feckers don't know what they may have | |||
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"After reading this thread. I'm starting to believe bi men are the new black/Asian guys. If you don't want to meet them. You're a bigot
I'm going to stop meeting men who have been with bi woman
Pervy feckers don't know what they may have "Don't do that..... They might want a relationship | |||
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"After reading this thread. I'm starting to believe bi men are the new black/Asian guys. If you don't want to meet them. You're a bigot
I'm going to stop meeting men who have been with bi woman
Pervy feckers don't know what they may have
Don't do that..... They might want a relationship "Who the men or the woman | |||
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"Shaz won't play with a bi man but she happy to play with a very bi woman
Ah, but would you rule out bi women who have had sex with bi men?
For me...
Yes ...simple answer.
How about straight women who have had sex with bi men? "We don't meet straight women at all, wouldn't be no point as I don't play just Shaz so the said woman would have to be bi
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"I'm going to stop meeting men who have been with bi woman" Shaz met a fair few straight guys over the years and she's bisexual so it had better be one of your questions you ask, "have you met Shaz" hahaha | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem.
But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience.
Well I was talking about on here.
Not everyone will like everyone and to call people bigoted because of that is wrong and childish.
Best off concentrating on people who do like bi men."It's not childish it's just calling a spade a spade. If you "won't meet any asian's" then that is a preference based on racial discrimination and therefore a racist preference. Fact. It doesn't make you a card carrying member of the KKK but racism isn't something you are or are not, it's a spectrum. If you won't meet guys based on their sexual preference. That is a preference based on prejudice. Fact. The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me. | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem.
But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience.
Well I was talking about on here.
Not everyone will like everyone and to call people bigoted because of that is wrong and childish.
Best off concentrating on people who do like bi men.
It's not childish it's just calling a spade a spade.
If you "won't meet any asian's" then that is a preference based on racial discrimination and therefore a racist preference.
Fact.
It doesn't make you a card carrying member of the KKK but racism isn't something you are or are not, it's a spectrum.
If you won't meet guys based on their sexual preference. That is a preference based on prejudice.
Fact.
The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me."Fancy a fuck? | |||
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"I've found the women who most appreciate me are women who like bi men. I'm bi, so it works out lol You just need to be yourself. Wise words man.
Lol. Never worked for me. Best advice: Hide anything and evreything that marks you out as different unless it confirms your masculinity.
Women are fickle as a dodgy light switch.
Are we really?
Or aren't we allowed to choose not to sleep with someone who has slept with other men?
You are free to do whatever you wish.
And he is free to form his opinions of you from your actions and the motive behind them. That's how it works.
lol, here is my revised advice.
There are three circumstances. Hypothetically speaking: tell them what you like because women are sensitive understanding practical people who will weigh all the facts.
A Potential: Dont worry, there'll be others. Just don't make the same mistake again
A Life Partner/wife:
Imagine I'm a little voice: Take that poker and stick in that fire till it's glowing red, that's right. Now, stick it in each eyeball starting with the right.
It is better to cut off your penis and post it to Jeremy Kyle than to own up to these perverted urges. Your brain, like any other organ is subject to malfunction and I know that has led to a delusion that it'll be alright, BUT IT WON'T.
A woman's libidinal balance teeters on a knife-edge. The tiniest feather from the smallest baby duckling's down can tip that scale with calamitous consequences. If you give the slightest inkling that you have considered such a thing at any time in your 50 years of life,let alone now, the four horses of the apocalypse will hang, draw and quarter your relationship.
Unless she is as rare as diamonds; even more reason to keep shtoom.
There's loads of women and couples on here who love bisexual men. I don't understand your problem.
But he wasn't talking about on here. He was talking about women in general: he means real life and I speak from experience.
Well I was talking about on here.
Not everyone will like everyone and to call people bigoted because of that is wrong and childish.
Best off concentrating on people who do like bi men.
It's not childish it's just calling a spade a spade.
If you "won't meet any asian's" then that is a preference based on racial discrimination and therefore a racist preference.
Fact.
It doesn't make you a card carrying member of the KKK but racism isn't something you are or are not, it's a spectrum.
If you won't meet guys based on their sexual preference. That is a preference based on prejudice.
Fact.
The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me.
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"After reading this thread. I'm starting to believe bi men are the new black/Asian guys. If you don't want to meet them. You're a bigot
I'm going to stop meeting men who have been with bi woman
Pervy feckers don't know what they may have
Don't do that..... They might want a relationship
Who the men or the woman "The men.... Those that never been with a bi woman will try to have a relationship with you , so they can have a their first MFF | |||
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" The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me. Exactly this. Noone needs to do anything they don't want to, but don't call it what it's not" Reminds me of that UKIP councillor Rozanne Duncan: "I'm not racist I just have a problem with negros". People don't like the label 'racist' or 'prejudice' so they decide that it definately doesn't apply to them because most people see themselves as 'good people'. | |||
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" The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me. Exactly this. Noone needs to do anything they don't want to, but don't call it what it's not Reminds me of that UKIP councillor Rozanne Duncan: "I'm not racist I just have a problem with negros". People don't like the label 'racist' or 'prejudice' so they decide that it definately doesn't apply to them because most people see themselves as 'good people'." *definitely. Putting the word FACT after your sentences doesn't make it true. My PREFERENCE is for heterosexual men. Although on here it seems they're in a majority. Don't try and belittle people because they don't fit into what you and the other bloke want. I wouldn't meet someone who was into bestiality either. Doesn't make me a bigot no matter what you say. People should be free to meet whoever they like. Whinging about it on a forum is not going to change that. | |||
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" The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me. Exactly this. Noone needs to do anything they don't want to, but don't call it what it's not Reminds me of that UKIP councillor Rozanne Duncan: "I'm not racist I just have a problem with negros". People don't like the label 'racist' or 'prejudice' so they decide that it definately doesn't apply to them because most people see themselves as 'good people'. *definitely. Putting the word FACT after your sentences doesn't make it true. My PREFERENCE is for heterosexual men. Although on here it seems they're in a majority. Don't try and belittle people because they don't fit into what you and the other bloke want. I wouldn't meet someone who was into bestiality either. Doesn't make me a bigot no matter what you say. People should be free to meet whoever they like. Whinging about it on a forum is not going to change that." You are free to meet whoever you want, what you are not free to do is re-write the English language to suit yourself. I put 'fact' because I am distinguishing it from opinion. When a series of logic simply uses the definition of words then the conclusion is factual. I'm not whinging about anyone that doesn't want to meet us. I'm whinging about people who refuse to call a spade a spade. Calling something a 'preference' doesn't preclude it from being racist or prejudice. You can try this in real life too, just go to work tomorrow and tell your line manager that "I'm not racist but I have a preference not to work with anyone that's asian". What do you think they will say: A) "ah well a 'personal preference', that's fine, I'll see what I can do" Or B) "Ummm no that's racial discrimination and it's illegal" | |||
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" The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me. Exactly this. Noone needs to do anything they don't want to, but don't call it what it's not Reminds me of that UKIP councillor Rozanne Duncan: "I'm not racist I just have a problem with negros". People don't like the label 'racist' or 'prejudice' so they decide that it definately doesn't apply to them because most people see themselves as 'good people'. *definitely. Putting the word FACT after your sentences doesn't make it true. My PREFERENCE is for heterosexual men. Although on here it seems they're in a majority. Don't try and belittle people because they don't fit into what you and the other bloke want. I wouldn't meet someone who was into bestiality either. Doesn't make me a bigot no matter what you say. People should be free to meet whoever they like. Whinging about it on a forum is not going to change that. You are free to meet whoever you want, what you are not free to do is re-write the English language to suit yourself. I put 'fact' because I am distinguishing it from opinion. When a series of logic simply uses the definition of words then the conclusion is factual. I'm not whinging about anyone that doesn't want to meet us. I'm whinging about people who refuse to call a spade a spade. Calling something a 'preference' doesn't preclude it from being racist or prejudice. You can try this in real life too, just go to work tomorrow and tell your line manager that "I'm not racist but I have a preference not to work with anyone that's asian". What do you think they will say: A) "ah well a 'personal preference', that's fine, I'll see what I can do" Or B) "Ummm no that's racial discrimination and it's illegal"" I think this is right. In the 70s we got a fair number of West Indian women working in the buffet at BR. Many white people said they didn't want black hands touching their food. This was a personal preference and probably the white people would have said that. But it was based on prejudice. So to exclude anyone from a sexual relationship purely on the basis of their colour is clearly racist - of course you have the choice as did the customers at the BR buffet but it is racist. Similarly, any woman who says she wouldn't go with anyone who admitted being bisexual is making a blanket judgement on the basis of sexuality (and it's almost unfathomable what difference it makes)...if I didn't tell you you wouldn't know...but I can hide it - in case you are one of the 50% of women who make the odd distinction - do you prefer that? | |||
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"After reading this thread. I'm starting to believe bi men are the new black/Asian guys. If you don't want to meet them. You're a bigot "I think black guys count as a fetish / "To Do List" item... Bi guys don't get it as bad as Asian guys do (which is sad, but I guess it's a sweeping category for quite a few different countries and religions / cultures) But black and asian are definitely not in the same category. In my humble observation... Flames | |||
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" The preference doesn't bother me, the bullshit bothers me. Exactly this. Noone needs to do anything they don't want to, but don't call it what it's not Reminds me of that UKIP councillor Rozanne Duncan: "I'm not racist I just have a problem with negros". People don't like the label 'racist' or 'prejudice' so they decide that it definately doesn't apply to them because most people see themselves as 'good people'. *definitely. Putting the word FACT after your sentences doesn't make it true. My PREFERENCE is for heterosexual men. Although on here it seems they're in a majority. Don't try and belittle people because they don't fit into what you and the other bloke want. I wouldn't meet someone who was into bestiality either. Doesn't make me a bigot no matter what you say. People should be free to meet whoever they like. Whinging about it on a forum is not going to change that. You are free to meet whoever you want, what you are not free to do is re-write the English language to suit yourself. I put 'fact' because I am distinguishing it from opinion. When a series of logic simply uses the definition of words then the conclusion is factual. I'm not whinging about anyone that doesn't want to meet us. I'm whinging about people who refuse to call a spade a spade. Calling something a 'preference' doesn't preclude it from being racist or prejudice. You can try this in real life too, just go to work tomorrow and tell your line manager that "I'm not racist but I have a preference not to work with anyone that's asian". What do you think they will say: A) "ah well a 'personal preference', that's fine, I'll see what I can do" Or B) "Ummm no that's racial discrimination and it's illegal" I think this is right. In the 70s we got a fair number of West Indian women working in the buffet at BR. Many white people said they didn't want black hands touching their food. This was a personal preference and probably the white people would have said that. But it was based on prejudice. So to exclude anyone from a sexual relationship purely on the basis of their colour is clearly racist - of course you have the choice as did the customers at the BR buffet but it is racist. Similarly, any woman who says she wouldn't go with anyone who admitted being bisexual is making a blanket judgement on the basis of sexuality (and it's almost unfathomable what difference it makes)...if I didn't tell you you wouldn't know...but I can hide it - in case you are one of the 50% of women who make the odd distinction - do you prefer that? " What's hilarious is that they'd rather say something that is definately prejudice or racist than just making a non-PC comment that isn't. Here's a statistical fact, bisexual men are, on average, more likely to get AIDs than (genuine) heterosexual ones. The problem is that it's an average and there are individuals in the sample who are above and below the average. Prejudice is when you ignore these individual differences, for example a bi guy who doesn't do anal is actually lower risk than a straight guy who barebacks with crack whores. But rather than just being mature and saying "sexual health is important to me and I want to discuss it with potential meets", we get this indirect nonsense about 'preferences'. Sorry to break it to you ladies but half the 'straight' blokes on fab that you fuck are whistling dicks when you're not there. Better still, they are the dishonest half who don't mind lying about it so what else might they be hiding... | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. " I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. " You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men? | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men? "I'd just like to say, once again, that I have not used the word 'bigoted'. I don't think it is. But I do think you haven't realised that making any judgement on the basis of race is racist. It doesn't matter what laws have or have not been passed - many inequities have not been legislated against - as many fathers know only too well - that is not the point, Parliament is hardly going to pry into people's bedrooms. | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men? "As i said many times, people can fuck whoever they want. I would like to lobby for a law that prevents double speak and complete bullshit spoken in public. Language eventually loses its meaning when everyone is allowed to define words as it suits them. I really don't know what you think prejudice is if it isn't a "preconceived opinion that is not based in reason or actual experience". I suspect that you actually have a non-PC reason for your preference, which would negate it being a prejudice and explain why an rational person would be tying themselves in knots trying to appear logical. Apparently I need to define the word 'spectrum' for you as well as you keep ignoring that point with your two simplistic camps of goodies and badies. | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men?
As i said many times, people can fuck whoever they want.
I would like to lobby for a law that prevents double speak and complete bullshit spoken in public. Language eventually loses its meaning when everyone is allowed to define words as it suits them. I really don't know what you think prejudice is if it isn't a "preconceived opinion that is not based in reason or actual experience". I suspect that you actually have a non-PC reason for your preference, which would negate it being a prejudice and explain why an rational person would be tying themselves in knots trying to appear logical.
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men?
As i said many times, people can fuck whoever they want.
I would like to lobby for a law that prevents double speak and complete bullshit spoken in public. Language eventually loses its meaning when everyone is allowed to define words as it suits them. I really don't know what you think prejudice is if it isn't a "preconceived opinion that is not based in reason or actual experience". I suspect that you actually have a non-PC reason for your preference, which would negate it being a prejudice and explain why an rational person would be tying themselves in knots trying to appear logical.
Apparently I need to define the word 'spectrum' for you as well as you keep ignoring that point with your two simplistic camps of goodies and badies. "Swearing and insulting people doesn't validate your point. Assuming things about me says more about you than anything. I don't need to justify my preferences and I certainly wouldn't get irate and start insulting people who don't agree with me. I noticed you didn't answer regarding gay men? I'm just curious if you regard gay men as bigoted because some of them wouldn't meet bisexual men? A lot of people on here agree with me but are too intimidated by people like yourself who shout bigot at every opportunity. Absolutely no need. | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men?
I'd just like to say, once again, that I have not used the word 'bigoted'. I don't think it is. But I do think you haven't realised that making any judgement on the basis of race is racist. It doesn't matter what laws have or have not been passed - many inequities have not been legislated against - as many fathers know only too well - that is not the point, Parliament is hardly going to pry into people's bedrooms."Exactly. What next? Sentenced to 6 months for refusing to meet a bisexual man. I know you didn't use the word bigoted but others did. Personally I don't care what people get up to on this site, I just know what I prefer. | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men?
As i said many times, people can fuck whoever they want.
I would like to lobby for a law that prevents double speak and complete bullshit spoken in public. Language eventually loses its meaning when everyone is allowed to define words as it suits them. I really don't know what you think prejudice is if it isn't a "preconceived opinion that is not based in reason or actual experience". I suspect that you actually have a non-PC reason for your preference, which would negate it being a prejudice and explain why an rational person would be tying themselves in knots trying to appear logical.
Apparently I need to define the word 'spectrum' for you as well as you keep ignoring that point with your two simplistic camps of goodies and badies.
Swearing and insulting people doesn't validate your point.
Assuming things about me says more about you than anything. I don't need to justify my preferences and I certainly wouldn't get irate and start insulting people who don't agree with me.
I noticed you didn't answer regarding gay men? I'm just curious if you regard gay men as bigoted because some of them wouldn't meet bisexual men?
A lot of people on here agree with me but are too intimidated by people like yourself who shout bigot at every opportunity. Absolutely no need."I haven't called you a bigot once and again, you're still struggling with the concept of a spectrum. Everyone has some degree of prejudice, it's a natural part of being human. To answer your question, if the gay man has a blanket 'preference' that he won't meet bi guys then that is actually a prejudice, refer to my earlier definition. If the guy has a reason like "I find the sex is better with gay guys" then they have given a 'reason' and the reason prevents the choice fulfilling the definition I gave earlier. | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. " Genuine question and I'm not questioning your reply I'm just genuinely curious If you meet a single guy its just you and him, what does it matter if he's bi or not? | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. " You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different?" Yeah their cock stinks of shit | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? Yeah their cock stinks of shit "Or his ass stinks of dick | |||
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"Working with and meeting for sex with are two different things. As I said earlier every single person on this planet has preferences. A lot of people choose to meet heterosexual men rather than bisexual men. It in no way shape or form makes that person bigoted. It's ridiculous to say so. I'm not re-writing anything. I'm aware they are different things, but the principle of discrimination is the same in both. It's the fact that you refuse to consider individual differences in your 'preference' that makes it a prejudice. As I've said multiple times, prejudice is a scale, some people have a lot, some have a little. Splitting people into two camps of bigots and non-bigots is childish. Sorry if the English language inconveniences your view of yourself. You are using the English language to try and justify calling people's personal choices bigotry. Using spurious analogies as well lol. Workers are (at the moment) protected by discrimination laws. Are you looking to lobby for a law to prosecute people who don't want to have sex with bisexual men? Argue all you like. People who don't want to have sex with bisexual men are not bigoted. Are gay men who refuse to meet bi men bigoted also or just heterosexual men?
As i said many times, people can fuck whoever they want.
I would like to lobby for a law that prevents double speak and complete bullshit spoken in public. Language eventually loses its meaning when everyone is allowed to define words as it suits them. I really don't know what you think prejudice is if it isn't a "preconceived opinion that is not based in reason or actual experience". I suspect that you actually have a non-PC reason for your preference, which would negate it being a prejudice and explain why an rational person would be tying themselves in knots trying to appear logical.
Apparently I need to define the word 'spectrum' for you as well as you keep ignoring that point with your two simplistic camps of goodies and badies.
Swearing and insulting people doesn't validate your point.
Assuming things about me says more about you than anything. I don't need to justify my preferences and I certainly wouldn't get irate and start insulting people who don't agree with me.
I noticed you didn't answer regarding gay men? I'm just curious if you regard gay men as bigoted because some of them wouldn't meet bisexual men?
A lot of people on here agree with me but are too intimidated by people like yourself who shout bigot at every opportunity. Absolutely no need.
I haven't called you a bigot once and again, you're still struggling with the concept of a spectrum. Everyone has some degree of prejudice, it's a natural part of being human.
To answer your question, if the gay man has a blanket 'preference' that he won't meet bi guys then that is actually a prejudice, refer to my earlier definition. If the guy has a reason like "I find the sex is better with gay guys" then they have given a 'reason' and the reason prevents the choice fulfilling the definition I gave earlier. "Well I prefer sex with men who are only attracted to women. That's all. Nothing sinister or hateful just what I prefer. I'm not struggling with anything but thanks for your concern. | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? Yeah their cock stinks of shit
Or his ass stinks of dick"Bend him over I'll give it a lick see if it tastes of dick too | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different?" 2 guys together don't do anything. And I won't meet someone who has been fucked or has fucked a man. My preference. Bollocks is it bigoted. It's choice. | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? Yeah their cock stinks of shit "Might be another woman's shit. I suppose you'd leave your husband if he told you he'd had cock in the past... | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? Yeah their cock stinks of shit
Might be another woman's shit. I suppose you'd leave your husband if he told you he'd had cock in the past... "Bit late for that I left him 9 year ago | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. Genuine question and I'm not questioning your reply I'm just genuinely curious If you meet a single guy its just you and him, what does it matter if he's bi or not?" If I've seen nothing of his postings then fine. But if I've seen him on forums or similar offering his arse to all and sundry to nip out and suck someone off then it turns me off. Maybe I don't like man whores? | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? 2 guys together don't do anything. And I won't meet someone who has been fucked or has fucked a man. My preference. Bollocks is it bigoted. It's choice. " You do know I was joking calling you bigoted. I agree with you. | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. Genuine question and I'm not questioning your reply I'm just genuinely curious If you meet a single guy its just you and him, what does it matter if he's bi or not? If I've seen nothing of his postings then fine. But if I've seen him on forums or similar offering his arse to all and sundry to nip out and suck someone off then it turns me off. Maybe I don't like man whores? " Well no, I love bi guys but even I wouldnt want to meet somebody who offered his arse to all and sundry I like people I meet to have a little class | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? 2 guys together don't do anything. And I won't meet someone who has been fucked or has fucked a man. My preference. Bollocks is it bigoted. It's choice. You do know I was joking calling you bigoted. I agree with you." I know! | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. Genuine question and I'm not questioning your reply I'm just genuinely curious If you meet a single guy its just you and him, what does it matter if he's bi or not? If I've seen nothing of his postings then fine. But if I've seen him on forums or similar offering his arse to all and sundry to nip out and suck someone off then it turns me off. Maybe I don't like man whores? " Not liking man whores is a jolly good reason. It's also a fact that men who have sex with men are on the whole, more promiscuous (i.e statistically more likely to be a man whore) Ergo, you have a reason grounded in fact that negates it being a prejudice. That sort of sucks for the bi men that aren't man whores but it also sucks if you decide you want join the army aged 41 so that's life. | |||
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"I won't meet bi guys for sex. Doesn't do anything for me. You mean, if they've told you...but you'd never know otherwise. When you say it doesn't do anything for you, do you mean seeing two men? I can understand that. Otherwise, why is it relevant and how can you tell. Do they smell different? 2 guys together don't do anything. And I won't meet someone who has been fucked or has fucked a man. My preference. Bollocks is it bigoted. It's choice. You do know I was joking calling you bigoted. I agree with you. I know! " | |||
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opens up waaay more possibilities.
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"It's a personal preference and that simple. We don't meet black guys because we don't find them attractive yet we have a son who is black and we love him dearly hardly racist??? it's just who people find attractive, a preference. I also find it strange that if people don't want to meet Black or Asian guys they are classed as racist yet I've seen loads of profiles on here saying BBC only and nobody has mentioned that, are they racist as well???? No they just have a preference. "
Racism is.....prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Unfortunately most people misunderstood choices for or against someone as Racist when it actually isn't. One can make a choice and if one isn't implying you are superior then it's not racism. It allows choices to be made about people's colour or culture without being racist. I wish people would actually learn the real definition. It would save alot of crap on the forums.
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"It's a personal preference and that simple. We don't meet black guys because we don't find them attractive yet we have a son who is black and we love him dearly hardly racist??? it's just who people find attractive, a preference. I also find it strange that if people don't want to meet Black or Asian guys they are classed as racist yet I've seen loads of profiles on here saying BBC only and nobody has mentioned that, are they racist as well???? No they just have a preference.
Racism is.....prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Unfortunately most people misunderstood choices for or against someone as Racist when it actually isn't. One can make a choice and if one isn't implying you are superior then it's not racism. It allows choices to be made about people's colour or culture without being racist. I wish people would actually learn the real definition. It would save alot of crap on the forums.
"No, you have fundamentally misunderstood that any dictionary definition is only an opinion. They are not gospel, fixed or even universal. All you have done is copy the definition from one dictionary. The issue of supremacy is not fundamental. I'll demonstrate. "I am not going to employ you because you are black and I simply do not like black people - I prefer my own kind" There is no implication of supremacy but clearly it is racist. | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay" So the answer seems to be yes and no
Do people realise that if you are a blood donor you can't carry on giving blood if you've had sex with a bi guy. You have to wait 12 months after the last time, so some people won't meet them for this reason, so it's not always to do with prejudice or bigotry as some of you seem to think | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay So the answer seems to be yes and no
Do people realise that if you are a blood donor you can't carry on giving blood if you've had sex with a bi guy. You have to wait 12 months after the last time, so some people won't meet them for this reason, so it's not always to do with prejudice or bigotry as some of you seem to think "Surely the giving blood thing is just an old rule that is yet to be changed? Like another relic from the 80s where any kind of samesex interaction ment you had aids | |||
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"Seriously Yay or nay So the answer seems to be yes and no
Do people realise that if you are a blood donor you can't carry on giving blood if you've had sex with a bi guy. You have to wait 12 months after the last time, so some people won't meet them for this reason, so it's not always to do with prejudice or bigotry as some of you seem to think
Surely the giving blood thing is just an old rule that is yet to be changed? Like another relic from the 80s where any kind of samesex interaction ment you had aids "As you say "yet to be changed". Just because it appears outdated, it is still the rule. | |||
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