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Why do Asian men struggle ?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Struggling with what ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The same as everybody the ones we ve seen with good profiles and pics seem to do ok

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?"

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cor seen some v sexy looking Indian ( I think ) doctors phwaaaaaarrrr

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We met an Asian couple in chameleons and had a fantastic time

Unfortunately along with a lot on fab young Asian guys can be a tad lazy with their approaches and immediately blame racism

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab...."

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

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By *iscean MaleMan over a year ago

Darlaston

Comes with the territory. I dont even think about it..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

Yes in America.. Asian = Chinese, Korean, Japanese

In the UK Asian = Pakistani , Indian , Sri Lankan...

It took me awhile to understand this.

I have 3 Indian friends and all of them married white women. I can't see why the Brits who have had Indians living in the UK for 100+ years are more discriminatory than Americans.

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By *aptivatingWoman over a year ago

Chester

I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

I think generally there is more racism in the UK towards the Asian population than there is towards the black population. I think it's more ingrained, more accepted, and more deeply felt than any other kind of racism we have.

I think the stereotypes here are mostly around Asian men and include things like lazy, unclean, smelly, unlikely to be an achiever unless they are a doctor, and selfish. These stereotypes expand to the fact that there are many Asian communities in the UK, where "people are being pushed out of their own neighbourhood", this is without getting into the insecurities people have with not being able to understand Punjabi, Urdu, Hindi, or whatever language is being spoken in front of them.

I also don't think it's talked about in polite circles, but everyone's heard the whispers, and many have never bothered to challenge them, because it's "just a giggle", or because they actually believe the stereotypes to be true.

So yes, I think there is a great deal of stereotyping and racism in play in the UK towards the Asian population. Sadly I think it's that really lamentable kind of racism where people aren't even aware that they are doing it.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you're hot you're hot. Couldn't care less whether Asian, Black, Hispanic, Caucasian or any other group.

Hotness transcends.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes."

I agree with this comment, having worked in the courier industry were there is a lot of Asians. Hear them bragging of their white women, whilst their good Asian wives at home looking after the family. Also the " grooming" of girls in Burnley, Rochdale, Bradford in the press didn't help. Sorry if I also offended people on here, but that is how it is outside of the Fab bubble

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't tend to put too much thought into race, and in my single years I dated all. In a club it doesn't worry me at all, as long as I fancy them them and they are in tune with swing etiquette. For private meets, these days, we are more likely to meet someone who is culturally similar to us. We once meet an Indian guy, though I didn't like him, so we didn't take it further. But I don't recall coming across any other Asian men at parties, so it hasn't come up.

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By *ogamuffinMan over a year ago

slough

"If you're hot you're hot. Couldn't care less whether Asian, Black, Hispanic, Caucasian or any other group.

Hotness transcends.

Hot decent polite Indian guy here. Feel free to get in touch.

Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush.

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By *aptivatingWoman over a year ago

Chester

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

Just to be absolutely clear here, as it already seems to have been missed, I don't think there's any circumstance where judging someone by their skin colour is acceptable, outside of getting the right shade of foundation.

I speak a limited amount of Urdu and Punjabi, I used to know a lot more, do you have any idea how many conversations like this I have overheard, absolutely none. My suggestion is you met a load of bolshy lads trying to make their lives sound cooler to their mates, but it does prove my point of how it's "okay" to stereotype Asians...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sadly I find many Asian men very fanciable but they tend to be very very pushy

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By *inky-MinxWoman over a year ago

Grantham

"If you're hot you're hot. Couldn't care less whether Asian, Black, Hispanic, Caucasian or any other group.

Hotness transcends.

Totally agree

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By *amslam1000Man over a year ago

willenhall

in my local area we have 4 distinct types of asians from the indian sub continent .

the differences between them are vast some good some bad it all depends.

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By *hav02Man over a year ago

Glasgow/London

probably not a color/race thing.

However, I currently have two caucasian women who are crazy about my brown skin, lol.

Everyone has their personal likes. If you're a decent amicable guy, you'll meet women...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you're hot you're hot. Couldn't care less whether Asian, Black, Hispanic, Caucasian or any other group.

Hotness transcends.

Hot decent polite Indian guy here. Feel free to get in touch.

Don't tarnish everyone with the same brush."

You are hot. Just miles away

I can't believe people still tarnish a whole group of people for the actions of a few. Some fucking idiots on this site. Pardon my swearing.

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By *orkie321bWoman over a year ago

Nottingham

I don't judge people by their skin colour or ethnic origin, if i fancy someone then i fancy them regardless.

I am a little wary of Asian men though due to previous experiences outside the swinging world.

I have been groped in public by a Pakistani neighbour, in front of his wife and children and my partner at the time. Didn't care what anyone thought, just copped a feel.

Another occasion, only a couple of weeks ago, i was in the gym boxing training. An Asian man came in and went crazy when he saw me in the boxing ring. According to him i am a whore because i choose to exercise in tight clothing (yoga pants) and have no respect for myself and the boxing ring is no place for a woman i should be at home looking after a husband

Its people like this that put women off meeting Asian men. A lot of Asians don't view women as equals and to some extent it is the norm to subjugate us.

Women all over Asia and the middle east are seen as second class citizens. In India there are frequent cases of young women being raped and then forced to marry their attacker because nobody else will want her now she is impure. In Pakistan malala yousefzai was shot because she wanted to go to school and in Saudi Arabia it is illegal for women to drive or even leave the house without a male relative to escort them.

Attitudes towards women are very much ingrained into Asian society and to some extent it does extend to British Asians too. Until these attitudes change Asian men will struggle to get meets with women

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

Unfortunately at clubs 100% of Asian men we have encountered at clubs have behaved badly.

Getting out of a hot tub Frisky had a hand rammed up between her legs.

Sitting at a table with a friend, he left to get a drink. Asian man sits down and tries to stick his hand down her knickers.

Waiting for me near the toilets in a club, she is offered £30 for a shaggy. She replied that she wasn't a prostitute. Her replied of course not, here's £40..

Frisky likes tall guys. She was approached by a short guy. He starts chatting to her and asks what she likes, she replied tall black guys. He went into a rant about her being racist.

There have been a couple of other cases of touching without even a "hi" let alone a "may I?"

Also a couple of cases of poor hygiene.

I realise that we have only met a tiny percentage of Asian guys that swing but unfortunately the ones we have met have pretty much ruined it for the others.

I will add Eastern European guys and travellers are also off the list having seen how they treat women in clubs...

I'm sorry if anyone is offended but this has been our experience...

I will add outside of clubs our experience is a polar opposite...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab...."

And there lies your answer.

On here a white woman can post "big black cock only" and not one white guy takes offence but the same white woman can post "no Asians" and Asian men start on about discrimination etc

Just because women dont want to shag certain ethic types dose not mean their being racist or discriminating

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

And there lies your answer.

On here a white woman can post "big black cock only" and not one white guy takes offence but the same white woman can post "no Asians" and Asian men start on about discrimination etc

Just because women dont want to shag certain ethic types dose not mean their being racist or discriminating

Oh, plenty of white guys complain. They think, "Is it koz I iz white?"

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By *athylacyTV/TS over a year ago

Maidstone

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?"

I love meeting Asian guys...

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Wow I'm surprised by some of the responses.

In America Asian/middle eastern kids are Americans. They still are religious at home but are as American as apple pie and baseball at school and in public... I'm surprised when they came to the Uk they didn't become British..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

And there lies your answer.

On here a white woman can post "big black cock only" and not one white guy takes offence but the same white woman can post "no Asians" and Asian men start on about discrimination etc

Just because women dont want to shag certain ethic types dose not mean their being racist or discriminating

Oh, plenty of white guys complain. They think, "Is it koz I iz white?""

I'd never ask for a BBC I think the term is ridiculously offensive. However you're correct, I've seen lots of white men complaining about women asking for BBC

Only to some people OP. Normally the people who sing of Empire etc

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Wow I'm surprised by some of the responses.

About 15 years ago I met an Asian couple through work. She had been born and raised in the UK, she was late 20s and didn't speak English.

Her parents had home schooled her...

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By *orkie321bWoman over a year ago

Nottingham

"Wow I'm surprised by some of the responses.

I don't understand why it would be different here but it is.

My best mate was born in Jamaica and came to the UK aged 6 in the 1960's. He sees himself as British even though he doesn't have a British passport. I grew up with an Indian family living a few doors away. They had kids around the same age as me and we all played together. The kids i played with see themselves as indian first and British second, despite the fact that they and their parents were born here.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wow I'm surprised by some of the responses.

About 15 years ago I met an Asian couple through work. She had been born and raised in the UK, she was late 20s and didn't speak English.

Her parents had home schooled her...

That might be the problem.. If the parents let them intergrate from childhood.. That would stop the discrimination and racism

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By *HaRiFMan over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

About 15 years ago I met an Asian couple through work. She had been born and raised in the UK, she was late 20s and didn't speak English.

Her parents had home schooled her...

That might be the problem.. If the parents let them intergrate from childhood.. That would stop the discrimination and racism "

I apologise for this in advance but would it really? What does integration mean (I am a number not a name)? Is there some sort of standard template that everyone fits into is there? I think you’ll find there isn’t, this is not a simple subject, the answer to racism is not integration its education.

I have no experience of the US but from what I see and read (I accept this might be a distorted view) the UK is much more of a tolerant place than the US.

I was born in England, I was raised in England, I was educated in England I speak English in fact English is my first language, I think in English (if that makes sense) and I think of myself as English not British, English. I have been to Wales but never bean to Northern Ireland or Scotland so I have as much experiences of those countries as I have of the country of my parent’s birth.

To answer your original question as far as this subject matter is concerned no not really there’s a wide assortment of people here from varying backgrounds and preferences. So on the main most of us don’t struggle, no more than any other men on here.

The one’s that do complain of struggling will most likely struggle regardless of what colour they are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally I find the Asian men on here and off here to just be disrespectful. Majority I find have little regard for women and don't respect them.

(Note: the word 'majority' has been used and NOT 'all')

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

watch faulty towers! go to leicester golden mile etc etc non discrimatory in any way shape or form but asian pakistani and indian kind of stick to themselves! And I personally dont give a shit but that is the way i see it! Maybe a hereditory thing but english women dont find asian men as atractive, but what do i know lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We all like what we like and don't need to defend ourselves by not liking this that or the other.

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By *HaRiFMan over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it. "

Why don’t people get this, it is relevant because their preference is BBC not BAC otherwise they would of stated so. How else do you expect them to communicate this to you if not by stating this as a preference? . By the way have you noticed some Asian profiles no Asian’s just their preference.

Are they being raciest too?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

Are they being raciest too?

I have actually had someone say to me 'you are not racist except to your own kind' ... It did make me think and it may just be possible lol

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By *HaRiFMan over a year ago

Beyond the shadows.

I have actually had someone say to me 'you are not racist except to your own kind' ... It did make me think and it may just be possible lol "

Surprised you Haven't had the coconut line chucked at you yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have actually had someone say to me 'you are not racist except to your own kind' ... It did make me think and it may just be possible lol

Surprised you Haven't had the coconut line chucked at you yet

Nah I just get called 'fresh' lol ... I'm too in touch with my roots and culture to not be brown haha

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

About 15 years ago I met an Asian couple through work. She had been born and raised in the UK, she was late 20s and didn't speak English.

Her parents had home schooled her...

That might be the problem.. If the parents let them intergrate from childhood.. That would stop the discrimination and racism

I have no experience of the US but from what I see and read (I accept this might be a distorted view) the UK is much more of a tolerant place than the US.

The one’s that do complain of struggling will most likely struggle regardless of what colour they are.

this maybe true... But I have not seen a bias towards Asian men on American websites as I have seen on fabswingers. Just my observations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

Are they being raciest too?

Their preferences could go on for ever...... But clearly stating no Asians is different than mentioning bbc

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

About 15 years ago I met an Asian couple through work. She had been born and raised in the UK, she was late 20s and didn't speak English.

Her parents had home schooled her...

That might be the problem.. If the parents let them intergrate from childhood.. That would stop the discrimination and racism

I have no experience of the US but from what I see and read (I accept this might be a distorted view) the UK is much more of a tolerant place than the US.

The one’s that do complain of struggling will most likely struggle regardless of what colour they are.

Unfortunately I think she was home schooled so she didn't become English. They wanted a daughter that would accept an arranged marriage to a man from their home country. She was very much a second class citizen there to do her husband's bidding...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hasty generalisations and fallacy of composition thinking IS strong not only in this thread, but also accross the wider swinging community.

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By *herealdeal90Man over a year ago

Huddersfield

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?"

And what image do us Asians have in uk?

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Hasty generalisations and fallacy of composition thinking IS strong not only in this thread, but also accross the wider swinging community.

Obviously you get people of all races and religions that generalise.

Unfortunately we have made our judgement through bad experiences.

I imagine that the Asian guys we have met, generalise that white women are whores...

Through experience we have found black guys to generally be polite, friendly and respectful.

White guys are a mixed bunch, from polite to won't take no for an answer...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Hasty generalisations and fallacy of composition thinking IS strong not only in this thread, but also accross the wider swinging community.

Obviously you get people of all races and religions that generalise.

Unfortunately we have made our judgement through bad experiences.

I imagine that the Asian guys we have met, generalise that white women are whores...

Through experience we have found black guys to generally be polite, friendly and respectful.

White guys are a mixed bunch, from polite to won't take no for an answer..."

Contrary to your account, my experience from swinging clubs is that respectful through to fractious thinking and behaviour is irrespective of ethnic origin. However, asians are still automatically sorted into fitting a particular charecter profile. This kind of thinking is flawed and antithetical to living the so called liberated swinging lifestyle....oh well.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Hasty generalisations and fallacy of composition thinking IS strong not only in this thread, but also accross the wider swinging community.

Obviously you get people of all races and religions that generalise.

Unfortunately we have made our judgement through bad experiences.

I imagine that the Asian guys we have met, generalise that white women are whores...

Through experience we have found black guys to generally be polite, friendly and respectful.

White guys are a mixed bunch, from polite to won't take no for an answer...

It may not be nice to read but I am talking about experience not rumour or gossip...

And I don't let our experiences in a club taint my view in the real world. I work with some Asian guys and you couldn't wish to meet a nicer group of guys. They are nothing like the guys that we have met at clubs.

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By *eeeee7Woman over a year ago

over yonder

"Personally I find the Asian men on here and off here to just be disrespectful. Majority I find have little regard for women and don't respect them.

(Note: the word 'majority' has been used and NOT 'all') "

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By *ee VianteWoman over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I don't consider not wanting to have sex with someone to be discrimination.

It depends on the reason you don't want to have sex with them whether it's racist or prejudiced.

If declining sex is discrimination, I discriminate frequently against men of all skin tones.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it. "

Biggest load of shite I've ever read on here

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By *i fem huntersCouple over a year ago

london

For us its not an issue. We accept everyone as individuals. If we had bad experiences with white people we wouldn't then judge all white people to be the same. What appeals to us is respect and maturity. Hotness can be found in all! If you don't find us attractive that's fine, it doesn't mean we would then insult you or call you racist. This site is for enjoying the lifestyle......... so let's enjoy!!

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By *lk GuyMan over a year ago

sheffield

Asain black White mixed race most single guys struggle

If you really want meets join a club

Or take your wife and girlfriend

Their few Asain couples on here with loads of verification

Plus the main thing I've noticed their not much single Asain women

Ive got two profile one with my boys that's this hard work

But a couple one where all I need do add to meets and within 2 min got 5 message

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it. "

Can't it be the result of unfortunate experiences? I started off as "let's meet for a coffee and see if we click" and ended up avoiding anyone with links to the subcontinent. They are usually not bad people but with ideas about women's roles (also in the swinging community) which mean things will be said early on that I find incompatible with being a man, a gentleman and a human being. For some strange reason this includes British-born Asians. Sorry, but I had no stereotypes in my head when starting out in this scene but of all the Asian guys I have ever been in touch with (quite a few) only one cut the mustard but unfortunately did not attract me. Sorry, guys, but some people dig themselves into a deeper hole than anyone else would.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab? "

Because lots of people are racist.

Also when people say 'no Asians' over here, they usually seem to mean 'no Indians' or 'no Muslims'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I had sex with my asian friend yesterday. He said during conversation 'I don't even fancy asian girls, don't know why, I just don't' and I thought 'well that's weird'. Then I came to think of a female (white) friend who once told me she couldn't bring herself to date a white man or suck a white willy as it repulsed her. Same thing I suppose.

We can't help how we are made, I can't understand their thinking but then they are straight and can't understand why I'd want to lick a vagina. Haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?"

Your not seriously meaning the kebab house corner shop taxi driver image...that's a bit stereotypical

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

Biggest load of shite I've ever read on here

Only shite to you because you know it's true, and if you think that's the biggest load of shite you have read on here, then you ain't read much have you!

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By *is_Collared_SubWoman over a year ago

London

Not as alpha. Simple

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

Biggest load of shite I've ever read on here

Only shite to you because you know it's true, and if you think that's the biggest load of shite you have read on here, then you ain't read much have you!"

Na sorry I think that's shite as well. You put things on your profile to minimise the amount of people messaging you with zero chance. You're not ageist if you won't meet men in their 70s, it doesn't mean you hate them, just means you're not attracted to them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Angry bearded fundamentalist seeks submissive female.

I guarantee you put that up on your profile your getting some red hot action... And not just with your regional counter terrorism unit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does seem to be a very significant portion of British women who will not meet/date Asian men.

My ex was one of the more hilariously open ones about it, made her feelings on Asians very plain. Said they were just unattractive to her, and their culture made their personalities unattractive also. Her words not mine. The reason it was hilarious though - She was mixed race. Half white British. Half Indian on her father's side.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

Biggest load of shite I've ever read on here

Only shite to you because you know it's true, and if you think that's the biggest load of shite you have read on here, then you ain't read much have you!

Age isn't a race, having a big cock isn't a race.

I have seen many profiles where the woman has not mentioned any preferences to who she will meet, but then you read further down and it specifically says 'No Asian Men' Surely they could fit them in between their BNP meetings

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does seem to be a very significant portion of British women who will not meet/date Asian men.

I have a very good female friend who is Asian. She will not date Asian guys, she married a white guy and is now single again. She wouldn't consider Asian guy.

She will say that the Asian guys have an attitude that women are there to serve hubby and please him. She doesn't like their attitude to women.

Interestingly her brother also married a white girl.

Does that make them racist?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I personally don't find it that bigger deal

People who I've met on here have been willing to meet ME, not my colour, not my religion, not my race. I've messaged and chatted away with all my meets before and after, just being myself.

PS. I've also met at least 3 ladies that don't meet Asians - I must their naughty little dark secret

Hey less of the little - it's just a cold day that's all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Asian you mean Muslim men as normal...bbc is just a way of black men saying to white men we are screwing your women and laughing about it simple as that really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I had sex with my asian friend yesterday. He said during conversation 'I don't even fancy asian girls, don't know why, I just don't' and I thought 'well that's weird'. Then I came to think of a female (white) friend who once told me she couldn't bring herself to date a white man or suck a white willy as it repulsed her. Same thing I suppose.

We can't help how we are made, I can't understand their thinking but then they are straight and can't understand why I'd want to lick a vagina. Haha"

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By *ath_Neil_bifunCouple over a year ago

near cardiff

"I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab? "

The UK is no where near as tolerant as we make out it is.

I live up the south wales valleys,and they hate the english with a passion and they are mainly white!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think a lot of this can come down to how the women is treated/respected.

I was at a club the other night and there were some middle aged Asian guys there who had no respect for women. Not interested in chatting but just fucking. I mean who goes up to a women and the first thing they say is "shag"?? I've only seen this behaviour with Asian men!!

As for users being attracted to a particular race well that just comes down to personal preference. Does not make them a racist. Fact

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Age isn't a race, having a big cock isn't a race.

Thanks for that, professor

So you're telling me these women all had 18-99 as their age limits then yeah? I'm not saying "nobody on here is racist", I'm just saying that we all have things that we are/aren't attracted to.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

we have only met a few Asian guys on the swinging scene. The majority were lovely, one was a bit weird, but have seen more weird behaviour from white guys. The worst behaviour we have ever seen in clubs has been from white people, male and female.

I think people will always complain, whatever race they are from, about not getting meets on here.

There will be some people who won't meet Asians because they are racist. There will be people who don't meet Asians because they don't fancy them and there will be people who do meet Asians.

There will be decent Asian swingers, and there will be dickheads, just like everyone else.

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

The trouble is, if you meet 500 white guys and 50 are arseholes, then you meet 300 black guys and 30 are arseholes and then you meet 10 Asian guys and 10 are arseholes you remember that. Even though it's the smallest number it's the highest percentage and you think why bother.

We all know there are nice people and arseholes in every group but you will avoid the group that has made the worst impression...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"we have only met a few Asian guys on the swinging scene. The majority were lovely, one was a bit weird, but have seen more weird behaviour from white guys. The worst behaviour we have ever seen in clubs has been from white people, male and female.

I think people will always complain, whatever race they are from, about not getting meets on here.

There will be some people who won't meet Asians because they are racist. There will be people who don't meet Asians because they don't fancy them and there will be people who do meet Asians.

There will be decent Asian swingers, and there will be dickheads, just like everyone else."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Why point it out though? Preference yes, but it can come across as racist.

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

So would people be more or less offended if a woman or couple put black only, white only etc?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So would people be more or less offended if a woman or couple put black only, white only etc?"

All comes across as narrow minded, in my opinion. But their choice but not something I'd need to put in a profile.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"So would people be more or less offended if a woman or couple put black only, white only etc?

All comes across as narrow minded, in my opinion. But their choice but not something I'd need to put in a profile. "

But if it's what you are after, why is it narrow minded?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So would people be more or less offended if a woman or couple put black only, white only etc?

All comes across as narrow minded, in my opinion. But their choice but not something I'd need to put in a profile. "

Have to admit, I'm not a great fan of stating an appearance that you don't want, whether it be race, body shape, dress size, height. We all have our different tastes, and I'm no exception. But I think it's nicer to say what I do like than what I don't like.

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By *ark074Man over a year ago

nottingham

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Absolutely. It means either:

A: you just don't fancy them, or

B: you've had a negative experience with an Asian man.

Unfortunately B happens, as it does with anyone. It doesn't mean tarring everyone with the same brush anymore than it means I'm a skinhead football hooligan.

Either way you are clearly stating your ground rules. Simple as that.

PS I think every age limit should be raised to at least 45.

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"So would people be more or less offended if a woman or couple put black only, white only etc?

All comes across as narrow minded, in my opinion. But their choice but not something I'd need to put in a profile.

But if it's what you are after, why is it narrow minded? "

If you won’t sleep with EVERYONE on Fab, you are narrow minded, if you will, you’re a slut!

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By *rSuave88Man over a year ago

Mirfield

"The trouble is, if you meet 500 white guys and 50 are arseholes, then you meet 300 black guys and 30 are arseholes and then you meet 10 Asian guys and 10 are arseholes you remember that. Even though it's the smallest number it's the highest percentage and you think why bother.

We all know there are nice people and arseholes in every group but you will avoid the group that has made the worst impression..."

Not at all because id like to say i judge people on face value rather than the colour of their skin or ethnicity.

Why discount somebody because of what a totally unrelated stranger has behaved like who has no affiliation with the said individual other than ethnic background? Makes no sense to me but hey ho it is what it is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Am I the only one that finds a big part of this discussion extremely racist? Asian men trying to make a point are shot down and made out like they are over reacting, in my opinion if someone finds a comment like "no asians" offensive (gotta be honest, I think it sounds at the very least culturally insensitive) that's something that is easy enough to respect. I avoid people with things like "no asians" or "whites only" completely as it sounds like more than just "stating a preference", it shows a certain judgemental attitude that needed to be shared on a profile rather than just a "sorry you're not for me" message to people you're not interested in. There's assholes in every race.

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By *rs DCouple over a year ago

far

"Struggling with what ?"
its not the size ov his chopper is it hehe

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

We all know there are nice people and arseholes in every group but you will avoid the group that has made the worst impression...

Not at all because id like to say i judge people on face value rather than the colour of their skin or ethnicity.

I understand what you are say but think if you have had better experiences with a different group you will spend more time with that group and less time with the other group.

This is probably even truer in the swinging world as play time is limited for a lot of people...

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By *exycouplemmmmCouple over a year ago

Surrey

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it. "

I totally agree with this... If I don't fancy blonde men I just wouldn't meet them, I don't have to 'list' their hair colour... X

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By *exycouplemmmmCouple over a year ago

Surrey

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Absolutely. It means either:

A: you just don't fancy them, or

B: you've had a negative experience with an Asian man.

Unfortunately B happens, as it does with anyone. It doesn't mean tarring everyone with the same brush anymore than it means I'm a skinhead football hooligan.

Either way you are clearly stating your ground rules. Simple as that.

PS I think every age limit should be raised to at least 45.

If I had a bad experience with a man, I wouldn't tarnish ALL men though would I!

So no, this point doesn't stack up at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

I totally agree with this... If I don't fancy blonde men I just wouldn't meet them, I don't have to 'list' their hair colour... X"

That's how I feel. I have a number of preferences with regards to my taste in men. But I wouldn't dream of listing the physical attributes that I'm less partial to. Partly because I wouldn't want to offend those who fit that description, and secondly because, who knows, I might fancy someone I wouldn't expect to. Admittedly I've never been sexually attracted to any man of Oriental/East Asian origen. But never say never - my preferences are just preferences, not hard and fast rules.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"So would people be more or less offended if a woman or couple put black only, white only etc?

All comes across as narrow minded, in my opinion. But their choice but not something I'd need to put in a profile. "

I was married to a kind, loving, decent, hard working black man. He is the father of my children. We split up because our son died and we didn't grieve together. For me there is nothing sexier than a hot, black man with a streak of confidence a mile wide running through him.

For me this is fantasy: nothing more, nothing less. My fantasy man is tall, white, "high flying" and sexually submissive. I don't deviate from that as that's what I like. If I were vague and ambiguous it would waste time.

Oh, my current partner is white and can't pronounce "sub!"

There are racist, narrow minded people on site for sure but you can generally tell those that are by the tone overall of their profile.

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By *am-RaiderMan over a year ago

Corby

Erm...so how do you know that Asian men struggle?

Did you tie one up?

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Absolutely. It means either:

A: you just don't fancy them, or

B: you've had a negative experience with an Asian man.

Unfortunately B happens, as it does with anyone. It doesn't mean tarring everyone with the same brush anymore than it means I'm a skinhead football hooligan.

Either way you are clearly stating your ground rules. Simple as that.

PS I think every age limit should be raised to at least 45.

If I had a bad experience with a man, I wouldn't tarnish ALL men though would I!

So no, this point doesn't stack up at all.

But if you had only met 10 men and all 10 of them had been bad experiences, you would be wary of men...

If you were bi and you had met loads of women and only had one or two bad experiences, you would more than likely be attracted to the woman over a man on your night out...

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By *am-RaiderMan over a year ago

Corby

Sorry to interrupt this serious conversation...but OP...do you have to book two seats when you fly?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes."

Nailed it.

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By *reamyBlackBullMan over a year ago

Bath

There's at least 3.5 Billion men out there, having bad experience with ten men really wouldn't remotely justify taring all men with the same brush because you've met far far less than even 0.001% of the men out there. It's an absolute miniscule number to start making generalisations on.

It is quite frankly how a lot of racism is born, since the human brain likes categorise things in nice simple ways. All women I've met were crazy, so all women in existence are probably crazy psycho's after my money repeat with random attribute of a small sample of asian men or women, or black men or women, or white men.

Generalisations of people are almost always bad, outside of specific case, we should really all try not to do it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Erm...so how do you know that Asian men struggle?

Did you tie one up?

No I'm a avid forum reader

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Why point it out though? Preference yes, but it can come across as racist. "

Because it stops them from wasting their time contacting me, and stops me from getting a barrage of sulky abuse when their messages get deleted? If that comes across as racist, tough titties. I know I'm not and that's all that matters.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it has more to do with integration.... Indians generally integrate well into the British way of life and are less shackled by religion.

Pakistanis generally adhere to cultural/ religious beliefs WHEN at home with their families, they throw all this out of the window when dating on FAB etc. Also, they have very little respect for women, consider them as objects to be used etc

Before anyone jumps up and down the above are my beliefs, you don't have to like/ believe them.

For me, I openly declare that I wish to see neither, I not racist, it's just a personal preference.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There is a College near me that employs six security guards and three full-time policemen. They are there to combat yobbish behaviour and the ONGOING threat of grooming by Pakistani muslims...corruptly referred to as 'Asians' by the politically correct media.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

Nailed it."

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

People often stereotype for a reason and unfortunately whilst some Asian guys behave badly they will continue to cause others to be tarred with the same brush...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

To the OP, what about the Spanish in America. I don't see any predujice or stereotyping of Spanish or Hispanic peaple here in British swingers.

I have felt racism in the past outside of fab. Once mistaken for asian. Still not nice to be on the receiving end. One for being judged on the way I looked and the other for being tarnished by a stereotype of a religion or race.

However, there are great people everywhere. Went to India and the people are awesome, welcoming and hard workers.

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By *eeeee7Woman over a year ago

over yonder

"I think it has more to do with integration.... Indians generally integrate well into the British way of life and are less shackled by religion.

Before anyone jumps up and down the above are my beliefs, you don't have to like/ believe them.

For me, I openly declare that I wish to see neither, I not racist, it's just a personal preference. "

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple over a year ago

harrow

I do find it amusing how many people don't want to meet Asian men but the first site of an Asian woman there are like " oooh I haven't had an Asian (Pakistani,Indian) before ,always been a big fantasy of mine " like I'm a bloody prize or something

. Oh well there's nowt stranger than folk .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think it has more to do with integration.... Indians generally integrate well into the British way of life and are less shackled by religion.

Before anyone jumps up and down the above are my beliefs, you don't have to like/ believe them.

For me, I openly declare that I wish to see neither, I not racist, it's just a personal preference. "

In my experience people who talk alot about integration into "british" society and generalise the beliefs of certain minority groups like Pakistanis are generally very racist, even when they claim not to be. But obviously this is just based on my experience of racists and I find the best way to judge people is to go by my expirience and generalise that over a whole group of people.

I need to catagorise racists somehow and please that it's just a personal preference and obviously nobody can take offence to that....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab? "

Because there isn't alcohol flowing in here?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

Yes in America.. Asian = Chinese, Korean, Japanese

In the UK Asian = Pakistani , Indian , Sri Lankan...

It took me awhile to understand this.

I have 3 Indian friends and all of them married white women. I can't see why the Brits who have had Indians living in the UK for 100+ years are more discriminatory than Americans. "

Are you basing how Asians in the UK are treat in real life by who wants to shag them in here?

Lots of Asians have high profile jobs in the UK, I work for the NHS and there are many Asian doctors, consultants and nurses, I have frinds who are none Asian married to Asian men, just because some people on one web site don't want to shag them that's not an indication across the board of how people interact off fab

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"To the OP, what about the Spanish in America. I don't see any predujice or stereotyping of Spanish or Hispanic peaple here in British swingers.

However, there are great people everywhere. Went to India and the people are awesome, welcoming and hard workers."

In America if you live in the big cities. You will find a more open minded population. Now in the south and Midwest they tend to have very conservative views

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I do find it amusing how many people don't want to meet Asian men but the first site of an Asian woman there are like " oooh I haven't had an Asian (Pakistani,Indian) before ,always been a big fantasy of mine " like I'm a bloody prize or something

. Oh well there's nowt stranger than folk ."

Men a pigs

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

Yes in America.. Asian = Chinese, Korean, Japanese

In the UK Asian = Pakistani , Indian , Sri Lankan...

It took me awhile to understand this.

I have 3 Indian friends and all of them married white women. I can't see why the Brits who have had Indians living in the UK for 100+ years are more discriminatory than Americans.

Are you basing how Asians in the UK are treat in real life by who wants to shag them in here?

Go check out USA based swinging websites. You will not see the amount of no Asian written on profiles like I've seen on fab

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

Yes in America.. Asian = Chinese, Korean, Japanese

In the UK Asian = Pakistani , Indian , Sri Lankan...

It took me awhile to understand this.

I have 3 Indian friends and all of them married white women. I can't see why the Brits who have had Indians living in the UK for 100+ years are more discriminatory than Americans.

Are you basing how Asians in the UK are treat in real life by who wants to shag them in here?

Go check out USA based swinging websites. You will not see the amount of no Asian written on profiles like I've seen on fab"

Different continent

Different culture

Different people

What else can you say

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By *exycouplemmmmCouple over a year ago

Surrey

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Absolutely. It means either:

A: you just don't fancy them, or

B: you've had a negative experience with an Asian man.

Unfortunately B happens, as it does with anyone. It doesn't mean tarring everyone with the same brush anymore than it means I'm a skinhead football hooligan.

Either way you are clearly stating your ground rules. Simple as that.

PS I think every age limit should be raised to at least 45.

If I had a bad experience with a man, I wouldn't tarnish ALL men though would I!

So no, this point doesn't stack up at all.

But if you had only met 10 men and all 10 of them had been bad experiences, you would be wary of men...

If you were bi and you had met loads of women and only had one or two bad experiences, you would more than likely be attracted to the woman over a man on your night out...

The likelihood of all ten men being bad experiences is v unlikely, and I apply that logic to race. If a person is kind, attractive and fun... It's of no consequence if they are black, white or asian etc !

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

Yes in America.. Asian = Chinese, Korean, Japanese

In the UK Asian = Pakistani , Indian , Sri Lankan...

It took me awhile to understand this.

I have 3 Indian friends and all of them married white women. I can't see why the Brits who have had Indians living in the UK for 100+ years are more discriminatory than Americans.

Are you basing how Asians in the UK are treat in real life by who wants to shag them in here?

Go check out USA based swinging websites. You will not see the amount of no Asian written on profiles like I've seen on fab"

In America, if you add the Indian population to the Asian population you havery approximately 1.5% of the entire population, so finding and Indian or Asian person is quite unlikely as only a small percentage will be swingers...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

Then the publicity about pakistani men being allowed (by their religious leaders) to beat their wives for various daft infractions, like not giving their husband sex when he wants it, not washing after sex, allowing another man to look at them, for having a period and being too dirty for their husbands to have sex, the list goes on).

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

"Just because you state 'no Asian men' on your profile does not make you racist

Absolutely. It means either:

A: you just don't fancy them, or

B: you've had a negative experience with an Asian man.

Unfortunately B happens, as it does with anyone. It doesn't mean tarring everyone with the same brush anymore than it means I'm a skinhead football hooligan.

Either way you are clearly stating your ground rules. Simple as that.

PS I think every age limit should be raised to at least 45.

If I had a bad experience with a man, I wouldn't tarnish ALL men though would I!

So no, this point doesn't stack up at all.

But if you had only met 10 men and all 10 of them had been bad experiences, you would be wary of men...

If you were bi and you had met loads of women and only had one or two bad experiences, you would more than likely be attracted to the woman over a man on your night out...

Unfortunately that is our experience, we haven't met many Asian men but everyone of them has been bad.

Admittedly isn't particularly attracted to Asian men it actually comes down to personality. If a guy approaches her, she will talk to him and see how it goes.

Unfortunately a large percentage of the Asian guys we have met have just walked up to her and touched her without even a hello. She has been offered cash and been accused of racism after turning a guy down.

So having had those bad experiences we are less likely to spend time to get to know an Asian guy.

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By *riskynriskyCouple over a year ago

Essex.

. Oh well there's nowt stranger than folk ."

This maybe because as an asian woman who is a swinger you are going to be open minded, where as men could still be more culturally narrow minded and look down on white women as a play thing.

I realise that some men will be open minded as well.

They guy that accused Frisky of being racist, told us that his mates had told him he was gaurantteed to have sex with multiple women at the club. Obviously he had been lied to but his reply was that she was racist as we're the other women...

Outside of swinging the men and women that marry people of other races and religions are obviously more likely to be open minded and less likely to follow cultural stereotypes.

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By *rown ThunderMan over a year ago

newport

"I don't judge people by their skin colour or ethnic origin, if i fancy someone then i fancy them regardless.

I am a little wary of Asian men though due to previous experiences outside the swinging world.

I have been groped in public by a Pakistani neighbour, in front of his wife and children and my partner at the time. Didn't care what anyone thought, just copped a feel.

Its people like this that put women off meeting Asian men. A lot of Asians don't view women as equals and to some extent it is the norm to subjugate us.

In the UK a white man in the name if Jimmy Saville raped so many young ladies. How are white men still getting meets?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This Asian thing still going on..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Asian men struggle on fab because they're MEN!

That's it really.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

The grooming is predominantly Muslim and white guys ...why put all asians in the same category???

Being generically categorised as "asian" and being associated to the ppl grooming etc is insulting to other faiths and they resent the generalisation just because you have Brown skin

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By *LCCCouple over a year ago

Cambridge

"Asian men struggle on fab because they're MEN!

That's it really.

I think you might have a point there!

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By *urton_cplCouple over a year ago

Burton On Trent

Errrrr, wrong attitude perhaps? ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *sian_coupleukCouple over a year ago

manchester

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

The grooming is predominantly Muslim and white guys ...why put all asians in the same category???

Being generically categorised as "asian" and being associated to the ppl grooming etc is insulting to other faiths and they resent the generalisation just because you have Brown skin"

Grooming is predominately Muslim - if you actually looked at the stats you would see that but seems like you like reading the daily mail or the sun and crap they print.

Just like they like to generalise people based on their faith - so do some people on fab generalising people based on their skin colour - no race or religion teaches one to be knob or be evil... So don't try blame others and make yourself sound good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"See a lot of womens profiles stating there preferences, ie BBC etc etc

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it. "
What an absolute load of bollox.

Going by your logic, all any fab profile should say is "hello" and just forget about all the other preferences like age group, sexual orientation and likes.

If we put age preferences on our profile, does that make us ageist to the folks outwith said preferences?

Our profile states no black or asian men, why, because my Mrs does not find them attractive and quite frankly thats her perogative. So instead of recieving( and there were alot) of messeages from Blacks and Asians, to which we would always reply with thanks but no thanks. We decide to state it as our preference along with our many other ones. According to you however; we're a bit racist. Preferences are just that, preferences. They dont make us racist, they make us us. Are we bigoted for not looking for tv's? Do we offend anyone because we wont do bareback. No we dont, and the fact my Mrs does not find Blacks or Asian attractive is all that should beed to be said.

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By *hocolateRodMan over a year ago

London and over UK

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

The grooming is predominantly Muslim and white guys ...why put all asians in the same category???

Being generically categorised as "asian" and being associated to the ppl grooming etc is insulting to other faiths and they resent the generalisation just because you have Brown skin"

The grooming is mostly Muslim??!! Really what about the white Catholic priests?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've seen a lot of comments on posts about bad experiences from meets with Asian men or how they conduct themselves in clubs. I have no experience of this so don't know if it's common or not but having seen it often enough I can see why people would be out off x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow I'm surprised by some of the responses.

I'm confused by this whole English women are racist and American women aren't and they love Asians.

Trump isn't far away from being elected whilst the majority of the U.K. Hate ukip and the BNP.

Seems to me like a big part of America hates Muslims and want to kick them out/stop them getting in whilst the UK thinks this is bollocks and have no real issue with immigration.

Think it's a bit much to say that English women discriminate against Asian men based on your opinion of how well they do on here.

Out of interest; what are you even basing this on?

Have you counted how many meets all the Asian men have had V how many meets all the English, French, Spanish, American, Australian, Canadian, Welsh, Mexican, Greek, and Irish men?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow I'm surprised by some of the responses.

I'm confused by this whole English women are racist and American women aren't and they love Asians.

Trump isn't far away from being elected whilst the majority of the U.K. Hate ukip and the BNP.

Seems to me like a big part of America hates Muslims and want to kick them out/stop them getting in whilst the UK thinks this is bollocks and have no real issue with immigration.

Think it's a bit much to say that English women discriminate against Asian men based on your opinion of how well they do on here.

Out of interest; what are you even basing this on?

Have you counted how many meets all the Asian men have had V how many meets all the English, French, Spanish, American, Australian, Canadian, Welsh, Mexican, Greek, and Irish men?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab? "

Because wealth and success hold fuck-all weight on Fab. So long as you're not an actual tramp. No one cares how much money you have. It's all about image. How many 6ft athletic asian men do you know? Exactly!

In real life women lower their physical standards in exchange for financial security and/or social standing when looking for a long-term relationship. Men work the other way, they lower their standards for one-night stands or casual flings, but like a trophy woman for a long-term relationship or marriage.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

The grooming is predominantly Muslim and white guys ...why put all asians in the same category???

Being generically categorised as "asian" and being associated to the ppl grooming etc is insulting to other faiths and they resent the generalisation just because you have Brown skin"

No I'm sorry that was not a Muslim issue but a Pakistani issue, why put all Muslims in the same category??? Being generically categorised as an Muslim issue is insulting to other races!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting to read some of the views on here.

For the record, I struggle on here too. Not quite hit the nail on the head as to why. Perhaps I don't float anyone's boat. Meh.

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By *hekaiserMan over a year ago

Glasgow

"This Asian thing still going on..

Here, here.

Build a bridge OP....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab?

Interesting circles you circulate in.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Here are my two latest experiences with Asian men over the last week.

Man No 1: "I am mixed-race, my father is Brazilian, mum Trinidadian. Sends photo. Looks Asian. When pushed tells me all of his family are West Indian Indian. If you are ashamed of your roots, maybe even you think there is something wrong with them?

Man No. 2. Told me he was mix-race. One of the grandparents is Indian - OK, fine, I think. He has clearly read my profile so knows my preferences. We arrange to meet up. I ask for a photo of his face. Of course he has a job that means he cannot post photos on Fab. What does he think I do to put food in my children's mouths?! I ask him to send it by WhatsApp. Says he will but never does. Adamant he is not Asian when asked but still no photo. Blocked after 3 days of promising and not sending it. Again, if you do not like where you come from, why should others?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Here are my two latest experiences with Asian men over the last week.

Good point

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

The grooming is predominantly Muslim and white guys ...why put all asians in the same category???

Being generically categorised as "asian" and being associated to the ppl grooming etc is insulting to other faiths and they resent the generalisation just because you have Brown skin

Grooming is predominately Muslim - if you actually looked at the stats you would see that but seems like you like reading the daily mail or the sun and crap they print.

No I work in this field and those are the stats - it's not from any newspaper!

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By *ir1967Man over a year ago

in da sticks, london, amsterdam, madrid

Well as a mix with German and Asian roots I had a fair share of discrimination in my life. However I cannot confirm such discrimination for time spend or lived in countries other than Germany. Neither in IRL nor in NL nor in the UK did I suffer any type of being downgraded or repulsed for the sake of my half Asian background, instead I was always considered as kinda German. My appearance was rather enjoyed as exotic resulting rather in acquaintances and encounters of all levels. I don't know whether my experience as an "Asian" in the Anglophone world are unique and it should be taken into account that I grew up with European or Western values and the concept of emancipation between the genders. Mind you things have improved in Germany over the last 15 years

From the contributions of others I read about bad or respect less behavior of Asians in clubs. And I can buy into the genuity of the claim. With views of ghetto like communities , forming a parallel society based on values of the country of origin, it doesn't need a lot of imagination. And many cliches are well fed by the same who claim discrimination. Hypocrites are a global phenomenon. But it is only a few who behave in such manner to feed stereotypes and I am certain it is only a few on the other side who discriminate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They dont have a clue how to please a woman and have no understanding ofHER needs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not Asian just tanned seem to do ok that's off here

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By *ir1967Man over a year ago

in da sticks, london, amsterdam, madrid

"They dont have a clue how to please a woman and have no understanding ofHER needs"

Who actually is they?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If you're hot you're hot. Couldn't care less whether Asian, Black, Hispanic, Caucasian or any other group.

Hotness transcends.

THIS

If you're hot, then you're hot no matter where you're from, no matter what colour your skin is, and no matter what group of people or race you're identified with. Hotness does indeed transcend.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Then they say 'No Asians' not racist, just not our thing.......rubbish!!!

There is no need to even mention that on a profile, you don't have to meet people you don't want to.....so its irrelevant. Cries out racism if you need to mention it.

Biggest load of shite I've ever read on here

Only shite to you because you know it's true,"

Fucking hell, where do I start with something so full of shit as that last comment

If i think somethings full of shite its because i think its full of shite.

If i think something is true i will agree with it.

End of the day people can put their preferences on their profiles as they see fit and if you don't agree with it then tough because theres absolutely fuck all you or any other whinger can do about it.

Profile police eh

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Because most of fab is in the UK and they don't have the same image here?

That's what boggles my mind... I never heard of Asian men being discriminated against until I came to fab....

As an American living in the UK, I guess I would just say it's a cultural thing.

You do know the difference between American Asian and British Asian, though, right? That shit confused the hell out of me for a good two months

Yes in America.. Asian = Chinese, Korean, Japanese

In the UK Asian = Pakistani , Indian , Sri Lankan...

It took me awhile to understand this.

I have 3 Indian friends and all of them married white women. I can't see why the Brits who have had Indians living in the UK for 100+ years are more discriminatory than Americans. "

What and with you saying that do you really think that will get you the response you want well only responce I have to that is I think you have issues with us in the UK

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting circles you circulate in."

I call it how I see it.

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By *sianmale89Man over a year ago

Stockport

Alright asian guys in this thread gather round and listen up, forget what everyone else is saying their pretty much most off the time the same spiteful bunch anyway who you always see in these kind off threads saying the same recycled cliche lines they have so let's just step away from that negativity for a minute....If you listen to these lot who pretty much view you as being pushy, disrespectful, no respect for women, child groomers, no idea how to please a woman or her needs, being ashamed off you're heritage etc, have a bad attitude etc etc ignore all that because all their trying to do is shift the blame and make you feel shit about being what you are over stuff you have not even done to them or others/behave like...can you honestly tell me that half off these lot would dare say half the things they are saying in this thread and also threads like this to you're face when you're staring them dead in the eye? I think not they don't know you personally or ever interacted with you in real life...it is incredibly annoying when you're constantly perceived with negativity but what can you do really? Just say fuck it life's a bitch that way sometimes and hope for the best/behave with the people you encounter/interact with in real life, and if things don't always work out then no worries it's not the end off the world.. P.s. OP there are plenty off Asian guys who don't struggle with women.

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By *hocolateRodMan over a year ago

London and over UK

"I'm probably going to offend every race, left right and centre with this comment, but I'll add it's just my observation and I'm fully open to people having had different experiences.

So yes, your miles may vary, but in my experience the UK has a lot of catching up to do in attitudes.

The grooming is predominantly Muslim and white guys ...why put all asians in the same category???

Being generically categorised as "asian" and being associated to the ppl grooming etc is insulting to other faiths and they resent the generalisation just because you have Brown skin

Grooming is predominately Muslim - if you actually looked at the stats you would see that but seems like you like reading the daily mail or the sun and crap they print.

No I work in this field and those are the stats - it's not from any newspaper!"

Really - I guess it was lies about Catholic priests then?!

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By *sianmale89Man over a year ago

Stockport

Really - I guess it was lies about Catholic priests then?!"
nah don't you know mate it's pretty much only Asians or as some have said Pakistanis who commit sex offences in the entire history off the United Kingdom, as for the others well hmmm their all angels aren't they who have never harmed a fly In their whole lives now have they??

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

"I live in Manhattan and I see Asian men with hot girls daily. Go to any night club and you will see Asian guys with hot girls and lots of alcohol flowing all night.

Asians in America are usually high achievers . They are usually Doctors , Engineers , Pharmacist , IT professionals , and bankers.

If you add a British Accent , they guys are like James Bond.

Why are they struggling on Fab?

I'd like to hear more about this one. It's not related to the Asian discussion ngoing on here, but it's an absolutely fascinating throw back to a by gone age

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not just Asian men that struggle dude

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

I dont much care what colour someone is, if i like someone i like them.

I am interested in hearing about different religons though

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My basic guess would be men in general struggle on here as it is a sellers market.

Single men don't hold all the bargaining chips here, so then when you add a minority (Black, Asian, Eastern European) and your chances diminish further.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not just being Asian either

Ive read many profiles saying

No overweight guys - so that's me fucked

No over 40's - me fucked again

No under 50' - hmm fucked over again

No bi guys - starting to see the picture

Thing is, I don't start banging the discriminatory drum over it, I respect their preferences and move on.

So why can't everyone else

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By *onny MCMan over a year ago

Crawley

I've never thought women who put "No Asians" on their profile as racist. I just see it as a filter. Yes you're discarding a very large group but if you've only ever had bad experiences with Asian guys, as a lot of women seem to have had on here and in clubs, would you sift through a load of messages looking for the few good Asian guys when you're already inundated with white guys who you're more likely to click with anyway?

I get this too, am automatically discounted by a lot of women for being bi, being skinny and having a beard. I can see why they filter me out, it's just to make the list of options manageable.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd like to hear more about this one. It's not related to the Asian discussion ngoing on here, but it's an absolutely fascinating throw back to a by gone age"

Well a certain dating app which is marketed as a 'speed dating app' gives me plenty of evidence to go by. It is essentially a hook-up app and not really geared towards long-term relationship finding. However a significant quantity of people use it to try and find long term partners.

I am far from being a physical or aesthetic ideal, as such I rarely, if ever, match with women looking for hook-ups or casual fun (with exception of the attention seeking 'match with everyone to see how many guys want me' attention whores). I always get the ones stating they are 'not after fun', ie they are looking for something long-term. My employment status is fairly obvious and I am in a reasonably well-paid job with excellent job security, in other words I'm financially safe and sorted, although not mega-wealthy, a good meal-ticket.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

I'd like to hear more about this one. It's not related to the Asian discussion ngoing on here, but it's an absolutely fascinating throw back to a by gone age

But aren't you generalising that most women lower their standards for long term financial security (in your previous comment) and men for a quick fuck ... isn't that based on the assumption that women need men to be financially secure ... because they are better paid. I haven't re read your previous comment, so I may have missed the point of it ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Perhaps a little, but there are plenty of that type that do lower their standards for a meal ticket. I was unlucky enough to be with one for a short while...

Besides the one's who don't need a man for a meal ticket are all the ones on here constantly turning me down all the time...

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

Perhaps a little, but there are plenty of that type that do lower their standards for a meal ticket. I was unlucky enough to be with one for a short while...

Besides the one's who don't need a man for a meal ticket are all the ones on here constantly turning me down all the time...

Perhaps your judgment has been clouded by your previous experience. Personally I have always been in a better financial position than any of the men I have been in a relationship with, until now. But I never notice or bother about whether a man has money .... not sure a lot of women do ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So you could say your judgement is clouded as well. Since you've never needed the meal ticket, you've never had to be bothered about a man's wealth. From what you've said I get the impression that you are probably very successful and in a high paying career such as a doctor or lawyer. But there are plenty of meal ticket types on that fish website, for example.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

Everyone's judgement is clouded by their experiences, sure. I am not that highly paid, but doing fine. Also, not materialistic, so not bothered about such things as a fancy house, car, etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Even when I lived with my ex who earns a very decent amount. I always worked and paid half the bills. Not all women are looking for meal tickets. I now live alone and love it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everyone's judgement is clouded by their experiences, sure. I am not that highly paid, but doing fine. Also, not materialistic, so not bothered about such things as a fancy house, car, etc."

I'm not on about materialistic people who want the uber-wealthy, with big house and fancy cars and all the rest of it. I'm on about the ones scraping an income and seeing marriage to someone in a profession such as mine as a way out of that life-style. With the added bonus that because I work away a lot they are still free to 'enjoy' the more attractive men in the area. I have plenty of colleagues where this has been the case for them...

I'm well aware there are plenty who pay their equal share, even when the incomes are far from equal.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

Even when I lived with my ex who earns a very decent amount. I always worked and paid half the bills. Not all women are looking for meal tickets. I now live alone and love it."

I don't honestly think many women are looking for a meal ticket ...

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By *MaleMan over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't honestly think many women are looking for a meal ticket ..."

As you are are comfortably off I would imagine you don't mix with those types and probably never have done. I could say there aren't many hard drug users around because I don't mix with the people in those social circles. However a quick trip to a music festival and my eyes are opened to a whole different world, where it seems like not doing drugs is the unusual behaviour...

Have a look on that fishing website. Set up a fake profile as a military man or an oil rig worker, but a fairly average looking one. Do the 'meet-me' thingy and see all the matches you get...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Even when I lived with my ex who earns a very decent amount. I always worked and paid half the bills. Not all women are looking for meal tickets. I now live alone and love it.

I don't honestly think many women are looking for a meal ticket ..."

Me neither.

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By *MaleMan over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't honestly think many women are looking for a meal ticket ...

Have a look on that fishing website. Set up a fake profile as a military man or an oil rig worker, but a fairly average looking one. Do the 'meet-me' thingy and see all the matches you get..."

I live in the oil capital of Europe (apparently) I seriously couldn't give two fucks how much someone earns. I know what you're saying SOME women are looking for wealthy men but not all of us are. I prefer a man with substance and by that I don't mean money.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think you notice in the UK, i think people are less money orientated, I think we as Brits tend to be quite reserved with income, rather as a symbol of power we tend to look at money as a means to enjoy our lives.

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

I don't honestly think many women are looking for a meal ticket ...

Have a look on that fishing website. Set up a fake profile as a military man or an oil rig worker, but a fairly average looking one. Do the 'meet-me' thingy and see all the matches you get...

Totally agree. Women meeting up with a man on the fish site doesn't mean she wants any type of relationship with him as most women would know such a relationship, not build on any substance, wouldn't last. I think anyone looking for a relationship is looking for a connection and depth, nothing money can buy. I have had harder financial times, when my children were younger, but I just dug deeper and did it myself. That's the reality for women out there, hence many would prefer to stay single, especially with kids, even though its a struggle .... until the right person comes along

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't honestly think many women are looking for a meal ticket ...

Have a look on that fishing website. Set up a fake profile as a military man or an oil rig worker, but a fairly average looking one. Do the 'meet-me' thingy and see all the matches you get...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think you notice in the UK, i think people are less money orientated, I think we as Brits tend to be quite reserved with income, rather as a symbol of power we tend to look at money as a means to enjoy our lives.

I don't know what part of the UK that is the case for, but where I am disposable income is something for the privileged few...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well all I can say you can generalise, everyone got liking & disliking. I'm as Asian guy & I don't feel discriminated in any way. I purpose people some of them accept & some don't. This exactly how it is!!!

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