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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Different.
LGBT is a sexual orientation, swinging is a sexual practice.
Odd question.  "
I totally agree with you. I raise the question because it came up in another thread in the club's section and I thought it deserved it's own thread here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm confused
How is somebody's sexuality the same as swinging
All because your gay, lesbian etc that does not mean you don't want monogamous relationship |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are they the same or different?
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Very strange question. You don't have to be LGBT to swing. You don't have to be a swinger to be LGBT.
I don't understand the question. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm confused
How is somebody's sexuality the same as swinging
All because your gay, lesbian etc that does not mean you don't want monogamous relationship "
Apart from bisexuals...the slags.... |
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LGBT are orientations (or on the case of trans a recognised medical diagnosis). All things a person is.
Swinging is an activity, something a person does.
Swingers might be LGBT or might be cis-gendered and straight. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"Several people have likened the 2 and i think it's horribly insulting to the LGBT community
Why?
Because on the whole swinging is a choice rather than something that is predetermined. "
I'm not so sure. I have always been happier with multiple partners than with one. Sure, I could choose to stay with one guy but I wouldn't be happy.
Obviously I haven't had years of threatened violence against me, but I do have to hide my lifestyle and desires from friends, family, and workmates. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT"
Go to Alabama and you'll probably get treat the same for being a swingers  |
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"Swinging might not be a choice, sexuality might be.
oh please explain 
I'd be interested in this explanation too "
Is swinging a choice?
If it is a choice then the null hypothesis has to be that non swinging, ie monogamy is the natural state for a human.
So are we all monogamous and just choose to swing, ie swinging is not normal?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Go to Alabama and you'll probably get treat the same for being a swingers "
from secret swingers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Swinging might not be a choice, sexuality might be.
oh please explain
I'd be interested in this explanation too
Is swinging a choice?
If it is a choice then the null hypothesis has to be that non swinging, ie monogamy is the natural state for a human.
So are we all monogamous and just choose to swing, ie swinging is not normal?
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eh,,nah,,yer wrong |
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT"
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
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"Swinging might not be a choice, sexuality might be.
oh please explain
I'd be interested in this explanation too
Is swinging a choice?
If it is a choice then the null hypothesis has to be that non swinging, ie monogamy is the natural state for a human.
So are we all monogamous and just choose to swing, ie swinging is not normal?
eh,,nah,,yer wrong"
It was a question asking what are others saying? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
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yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people |
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people"
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off."
yeap there is,,,and your point is?
oh and swinging IS a choice |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off."
I'm not comparing them, I'm saying it's straight up worse. By your logic racism against white people is just as important as racism against people of colour  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off."
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off.
yeap there is,,,and your point is?
oh and swinging IS a choice"
Being a TV is a choice and acting on urges to have sex with people of the same gender is a choice too.
Life is full of choices. But it is your choice. As long as your choice will not harm children, animals or non concenting adults you should not be persecuted for that choice.
Some very backward thinking in such an enlightened community. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off.
yeap there is,,,and your point is?
oh and swinging IS a choice
Being a TV is a choice and acting on urges to have sex with people of the same gender is a choice too.
Life is full of choices. But it is your choice. As long as your choice will not harm children, animals or non concenting adults you should not be persecuted for that choice.
Some very backward thinking in such an enlightened community. "
Englightened community 
That's funny |
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off.
yeap there is,,,and your point is?
oh and swinging IS a choice
Being a TV is a choice and acting on urges to have sex with people of the same gender is a choice too.
Life is full of choices. But it is your choice. As long as your choice will not harm children, animals or non concenting adults you should not be persecuted for that choice.
Some very backward thinking in such an enlightened community.
Englightened community
That's funny "
It's like some swingers have the outlook of a gay man in the north of England in the 1950's.
Yes we like to keep what we do a bit quiet but there's a fair bit of in fighting and self loathing in here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are people killed for being swingers? I'm pretty sure there's lots of places in the world where you're persecuted for being LGBT
Plenty of places were swinging would get you killed. I believe stoning is the preferred method. Tends to fall under adultery laws.
Although I can't fathom why some people want to play who is the worse victim game when things go wrong for certain groups.
Would you go to a pride event and say cheer up at least your not all disabled, etc....
But I guess it's human nature to want to have a go at someone, even if it's just to say you're not as badly treated as we are.
yer right up to a point most people in society think swingers are fat perverts that live in suburbia and are generaly laughed at and mocked.
but cant say ive read many newspaper articles bout swingers being beaten up unlike gay people
But that's my point. I would not compare. Just seems tasteless to do so.
I can accept someone has had a shitty day at work, without resorting to comparisons of their day to some poor sod in Iraq that has just been blown to pieces.
I can accept that those swingers exposed in the sun have effectively been ousted and their kids may get bullied at school because of this and others may lose work and family and friends without saying but cheer up there is always someone else worse off.
yeap there is,,,and your point is?
oh and swinging IS a choice
Being a TV is a choice and acting on urges to have sex with people of the same gender is a choice too.
Life is full of choices. But it is your choice. As long as your choice will not harm children, animals or non concenting adults you should not be persecuted for that choice.
Some very backward thinking in such an enlightened community.
Englightened community
That's funny
It's like some swingers have the outlook of a gay man in the north of England in the 1950's.
Yes we like to keep what we do a bit quiet but there's a fair bit of in fighting and self loathing in here. "
I have a cousin that's is married to her partner and have a little girl together. Every time she is called up to school for the child misbehaving. She accuses the teacher , counselor, and principal of being homophobic. I told her no your kid is just a brat. She hasn't talk to me since. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sexual activity and sexual orientation aren't the same thing. You may choose to act upon your sexual urges but that doesn't change your sexual orientation. In the act the choice resides but it will never change who you are |
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