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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker..." I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker | |||
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"You take three showers a day?! " One when I wake up One after the gym One before bed I moisturize after each shower | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh " Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities | |||
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"I smoke so the smokers category works fine for me " Yes but you are smoker . I'm not a smoker. Most non smokers will not meet occasionally smokers | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker..." Yep, all the showers and mints in the world won't improve the smell or taste. | |||
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"I smoke so the smokers category works fine for me Yes but you are smoker . I'm not a smoker. Most non smokers will not meet occasionally smokers " You smoke therefore you're a smoker..it's really not hard to work out op | |||
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"If a straight guy plays with a guy!! Sorry!! what a straight guy playing with a gay guy!! That woulld make him bi or gay not straight!! Plus what the hell has that got to do with smoking very confused!! " You haven't been on the forums very long, have you? Rules that apply in the real world, don't apply here. | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... Yep, all the showers and mints in the world won't improve the smell or taste." And you're attitude is why we now only meet smokers we will not meet non smokers but still we get messaged by them ..thank god for the block button | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" hahaha this is fucking brilliant | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" Hmmmmm I'm a 5ft black girl with no tits. I don't understand when people look at my stolen photos they don't want to meet me | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities " But you said you rarely have one and only with a drink. If you're wanting a cigarette after sex you're definitely a smoker | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker " I'm really not sure if this is a wind up or not, but okay I'll bite! A bloke who plays with a bloke occasionally isn't straight, and someone who smokes occasionally isn't a non smoker. Fuck all wrong with not being straight or smoking btw, although im not really sure what one has to do with the other | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Hmmmmm I'm a 5ft black girl with no tits. I don't understand when people look at my stolen photos they don't want to meet me " You're a pretty woman on a sex site... You get 300 emails daily and can get any guy you want.. You will get no tears from me | |||
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"If a straight guy plays with a guy!! Sorry!! what a straight guy playing with a gay guy!! That woulld make him bi or gay not straight!! Plus what the hell has that got to do with smoking very confused!! " yeah don't question this ever again on these forums whatever you do | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities But you said you rarely have one and only with a drink. If you're wanting a cigarette after sex you're definitely a smoker " Well during the meet I think I will drink before during and after sex. So it's not the sex that makes me smoke.. It's the drinking | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... Yep, all the showers and mints in the world won't improve the smell or taste. And you're attitude is why we now only meet smokers we will not meet non smokers but still we get messaged by them ..thank god for the block button " Gosh, attitude? I'm an ex smoker and smokers stink to me. That's not attitude, it's my personal experience. Some people are so desperate for a shag, they will compromise their own requirements. | |||
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"i have heard said on the forums that a smokers secretions taste different" Propoganda | |||
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" Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities " Not next to me you wouldn't, not if you wanted to walk out the door. | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" | |||
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"move to the uk - maybe we are more tolerant" that is first. I've heard more abuse about smokers from people in the UK than America.. I've heard people say that people on benefits should have their benefits cut because they smoke I'll stick to living in my colony | |||
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"A smoker that's a non smoker! Hilarious " Believe it or not in the world of fab , this is normal. Please don't label me. Labels are bad. I consider myself smoker fluid.. In my head I'm a non smoker because I have an occasional cigarette. Depending on the situation My actions have no bearing on what you think. Because sometimes I vape and smoke a hookah. That's not tobacco so I'm not smoking. | |||
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"Oh OP, after all you've said about how people should be honest on their profiles. Shame on you! " I am honest on my profile.. I'm a non smoker. Surely having a occasionally cigarette every now and then would not warrant calling me a smoker | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" Everyone has the right to make a choice on whomever they decide to meet and all the mints in the world won't disguise that fact. I've played with a smoker who smoked not 20 minutes before, who also uses mints and for the whole day afterwards, I had an ashtray taste in my mouth and felt my lungs were filled with it, too! Not good when being a non smoker. So this is my choice not to meet a smoker, as no kissing nor sex is not worth feeling so terrible afterwards! | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Everyone has the right to make a choice on whomever they decide to meet and all the mints in the world won't disguise that fact. I've played with a smoker who smoked not 20 minutes before, who also uses mints and for the whole day afterwards, I had an ashtray taste in my mouth and felt my lungs were filled with it, too! Not good when being a non smoker. So this is my choice not to meet a smoker, as no kissing nor sex is not worth feeling so terrible afterwards! " I get that you don't like smokers. But kissing a smoker doesn't fill up your lungs with smoke. Also if you brush your teeth and use mouthwash before bed and when you wake up in the morning... There is no reason to taste smoke all day. Plus the food you eat and drink will get the taste out of your mouth. I'm not calling you a liar , I'm just saying you're not telling the truth | |||
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"If you smoke occasionally you are a smoker. If you murder a person every year for six years, then miss a year out does that mean you are not a murderer any more? No. You're a smoker. The effects of a cigarette last for days and weeks... You're a smoker and obviously can't stop the habit, however little you may smoke. " A mind is like a parachute. It only works if you use it. Please try to open your mind. I vape and smoke a hookah, so it's not always tobacco. I said I can go months without smoking. I don't buy cigarettes, I don't smoke when I'm at home, and I don't smoke when I'm sick. Again I'm a non smoker because fab only has 2 options and in my mind I'm smoker fluid . If you smoke one cigarette or vape it doesn't make you a smoker. | |||
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"It fills up your lung with tar which takes years to get rid of, if ever. Your skin and clothes and hair get impregnated with the smell, if you are a smoker you smell......horrible. " More propoganda... Do you have facts The next thing you will tell me is that if I only smoke once. That will make me a smoker forever | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker " Nope you're still a smoker whether you like it or not! I'm a non smoker because I NEVER smoke | |||
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"I've not had a fag since December 27th. Not sure if that makes me a smoker or not after reading this thread." If you have no intention of having any more cigarettes and you've given up you are now a non smoker | |||
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"I've not had a fag since December 27th. Not sure if that makes me a smoker or not after reading this thread. If you have no intention of having any more cigarettes and you've given up you are now a non smoker " ... An ex smoker.... | |||
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"move to the uk - maybe we are more tolerant that is first. I've heard more abuse about smokers from people in the UK than America.. I've heard people say that people on benefits should have their benefits cut because they smoke I'll stick to living in my colony " posting this in the uk forums then is going to get more aggro then ? | |||
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"I'm shocked that you think that this is a "community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental". It's the opposite of this." Easily shocked aren't you! | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker..." And if you fuck other men you are still bi....even if only occasionally.....? Don't follow your comparison. | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" Couldn't be bothered to read beyond the first line. There is no such thing as a part time smoker. | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... And if you fuck other men you are still bi....even if only occasionally.....? Don't follow your comparison." What camparison,he's talking about smoking isn't he?! Is he bi as well,what's that got to do with him being a smoker?! | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker " | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh " Because as deluded as "occasional" smokers are, and I was one, you can taste it. I had smoked the night before a social meet. Between the cigarette and meet I'd eaten, drank, brushed my teeth three times, flossed and used mouthwash and he recoiled when he kissed me saying "you didn't say you were a smoker!" I was mortified and thought he was being over dramatic, but fast forward ten years, I'd stopped smoking, met someone for a social meet, kissed him and nearly gagged in his mouth from the taste of nicotine. | |||
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"If you smoke 1 cigarette a year you're a smoker. Also if you have one drink a year you're an alcoholic." I think you're taking this a little too seriously.. | |||
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"In all seriousness it does naff me off when someone states they're a non smoker,but that first kiss tells you otherwise..." Kissing is for gays, cocks don't smoke, the owner of the cock could be on 20 a day. His cock will taste just fine! | |||
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"In all seriousness it does naff me off when someone states they're a non smoker,but that first kiss tells you otherwise... Kissing is for gays, cocks don't smoke, the owner of the cock could be on 20 a day. His cock will taste just fine! " Nar,still stinks the other end | |||
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"It seeps out of every single pore..." I'm just not that fussy. | |||
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"In all seriousness it does naff me off when someone states they're a non smoker,but that first kiss tells you otherwise... Kissing is for gays, cocks don't smoke, the owner of the cock could be on 20 a day. His cock will taste just fine! " His cum won't taste great though, a smokers cum isn't the most pleasant | |||
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"It seeps out of every single pore... I'm just not that fussy." It's not a case of being fussy,I just don't find an ashtry a turn on | |||
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"In all seriousness it does naff me off when someone states they're a non smoker,but that first kiss tells you otherwise... Kissing is for gays, cocks don't smoke, the owner of the cock could be on 20 a day. His cock will taste just fine! His cum won't taste great though, a smokers cum isn't the most pleasant " Lol who really cares in the heat of the moment? It's not fine wine for fucks sake! just swallow it down like it's your last meal, it won't even touch the sides! | |||
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"It seeps out of every single pore... I'm just not that fussy. It's not a case of being fussy,I just don't find an ashtry a turn on " Smokers cocks do not taste like ashtrays! I know this for a fact. | |||
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"In all seriousness it does naff me off when someone states they're a non smoker,but that first kiss tells you otherwise... Kissing is for gays, cocks don't smoke, the owner of the cock could be on 20 a day. His cock will taste just fine! His cum won't taste great though, a smokers cum isn't the most pleasant Lol who really cares in the heat of the moment? It's not fine wine for fucks sake! just swallow it down like it's your last meal, it won't even touch the sides!" | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Everyone has the right to make a choice on whomever they decide to meet and all the mints in the world won't disguise that fact. I've played with a smoker who smoked not 20 minutes before, who also uses mints and for the whole day afterwards, I had an ashtray taste in my mouth and felt my lungs were filled with it, too! Not good when being a non smoker. So this is my choice not to meet a smoker, as no kissing nor sex is not worth feeling so terrible afterwards! I get that you don't like smokers. But kissing a smoker doesn't fill up your lungs with smoke. Also if you brush your teeth and use mouthwash before bed and when you wake up in the morning... There is no reason to taste smoke all day. Plus the food you eat and drink will get the taste out of your mouth. I'm not calling you a liar , I'm just saying you're not telling the truth " OK, I am going to call you out on this one. I can tell a smoker, even an occasional one like you a mile off. I have a very acute sense of smell and all the mints in Mintland will not hide it from me. And there is this, I was once getting frisky with a guy who hadn't smoked in front of me, nor for quite some time, then all of a sudden, his lungs must have felt they needed to dig deep and he exhaled the most offensive, stale smoke smell from his mouth. I just about puked. Smokers, occasional smokers, cigar only smokers, any sort of smoker - not for me. | |||
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"It seeps out of every single pore... I'm just not that fussy. It's not a case of being fussy,I just don't find an ashtry a turn on Smokers cocks do not taste like ashtrays! I know this for a fact." Well pardon me for having a weak stomach where smokers are concerned | |||
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"I have never her such a load of rubbish in my life. You are a smoker, and a guy that meets guys or tv's is not straight. You are in denial. " agree. you smoke or you dont. end off | |||
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"I've not had a fag since December 27th. Not sure if that makes me a smoker or not after reading this thread." You're whatever you want to be.. The world can't define smoking.. It's all in your head. You can be whatever you think you are. Regardless of your actions | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... And if you fuck other men you are still bi....even if only occasionally.....? Don't follow your comparison." Please don't bring intelligence and common sense in this thread. | |||
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" I am honest on my profile.. I'm a non smoker. Surely having a occasionally cigarette every now and then would not warrant calling me a smoker " Sorry, you are a smoker. Going by your standards, one could argue that if a virgin has sex only occasionally, then he or she is still a virgin? At this point I can clearly state the fact that I am a non-smoker and an ex-virgin! | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Couldn't be bothered to read beyond the first line. There is no such thing as a part time smoker. " So how can a man be part time bi sexual? | |||
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"If you smoke 1 cigarette a year you're a smoker. Also if you have one drink a year you're an alcoholic." Thank you .... It can't be that simple? | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... And if you fuck other men you are still bi....even if only occasionally.....? Don't follow your comparison. Please don't bring intelligence and common sense in this thread." but what the stuff has that got to do with my comment,nowhere have I said anything about bi men?! | |||
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"As an ex-smoker, of some 60 a day at times, think I can say with some authority: stale smoke stinks, even when smoking the following day my clothes used to turn my stomach so can fully understand why people won't meet smokers, sorry! " Being a ex smoker you shouldn't be so closed minded... I don't smoke more than 2 a day. Plus I don't smoke inside my apartment and car. So my clothes are fine. Please do not judge me by your standards | |||
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"You can taste a smoker it's on their skin in their cum. It's foul. Even social smokers. You'd be asked to leave. I had a abusive ex Partner who smoked. It freaks me out x " So you'd know if he'd smoked 2 months previous to your meet? | |||
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"OP your what is medically referred to as a social smoker, the key word within that is smoker, so unfortunately you are a smoker. They probably loose interest because of the ammount of "non-smokers" that then turn out to want a fag when you agree to meet them there are out there, lots of smokers use the non-smoker label to help keep their options open in the same was the bi "straight" guys do As a non-smoker that's always been a non-smoker, I can honestly tell you while I'm not opposed to meeting smokers, you can tell regardless of how well the smoker covers by washing hands having mints etc, you can still taste it and smell it, even vapers have a distinct taste to them " Please leave sexuality out of this discussion. You know if you call a guy Gay , who sometimes does things with men and transgender people then you're homophobic , and bigot. Because I sometimes smoke , you can call me a smoker.. I'm should be called smoker fluid | |||
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"As an ex-smoker, of some 60 a day at times, think I can say with some authority: stale smoke stinks, even when smoking the following day my clothes used to turn my stomach so can fully understand why people won't meet smokers, sorry! Being a ex smoker you shouldn't be so closed minded... I don't smoke more than 2 a day. Plus I don't smoke inside my apartment and car. So my clothes are fine. Please do not judge me by your standards " My ex was a smoker he would never smoke in the house but the smell does follow him on his clothes that smell then seeped into the fabric of my sofa (so much so I got a new one once we split) so it does carry/Linger you just don't notice it because you're the smoker | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities " There you go then. You're meeting people who don't meet smokers but say you might want a cigarette after sex. | |||
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"If you were not a smoker,then you wouldn't even think about having a cigarette.." So if I only think about smoking once a year am I still a smoker? | |||
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"If you were not a smoker,then you wouldn't even think about having a cigarette.. So if I only think about smoking once a year am I still a smoker? " If you have that cigarette in my company,after we have sex,you're a smoker. | |||
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"OP your what is medically referred to as a social smoker, the key word within that is smoker, so unfortunately you are a smoker. They probably loose interest because of the ammount of "non-smokers" that then turn out to want a fag when you agree to meet them there are out there, lots of smokers use the non-smoker label to help keep their options open in the same was the bi "straight" guys do As a non-smoker that's always been a non-smoker, I can honestly tell you while I'm not opposed to meeting smokers, you can tell regardless of how well the smoker covers by washing hands having mints etc, you can still taste it and smell it, even vapers have a distinct taste to them Please leave sexuality out of this discussion. You know if you call a guy Gay , who sometimes does things with men and transgender people then you're homophobic , and bigot. Because I sometimes smoke , you can call me a smoker.. I'm should be called smoker fluid " You brought sexuality into the discussion in your OP | |||
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" Please leave sexuality out of this discussion. You know if you call a guy Gay , who sometimes does things with men and transgender people then you're homophobic , and bigot. Because I sometimes smoke , you can call me a smoker.. I'm should be called smoker fluid " Your a fool. You are a smoker end of. | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Everyone has the right to make a choice on whomever they decide to meet and all the mints in the world won't disguise that fact. I've played with a smoker who smoked not 20 minutes before, who also uses mints and for the whole day afterwards, I had an ashtray taste in my mouth and felt my lungs were filled with it, too! Not good when being a non smoker. So this is my choice not to meet a smoker, as no kissing nor sex is not worth feeling so terrible afterwards! I get that you don't like smokers. But kissing a smoker doesn't fill up your lungs with smoke. Also if you brush your teeth and use mouthwash before bed and when you wake up in the morning... There is no reason to taste smoke all day. Plus the food you eat and drink will get the taste out of your mouth. I'm not calling you a liar , I'm just saying you're not telling the truth OK, I am going to call you out on this one. I can tell a smoker, even an occasional one like you a mile off. I have a very acute sense of smell and all the mints in Mintland will not hide it from me. And there is this, I was once getting frisky with a guy who hadn't smoked in front of me, nor for quite some time, then all of a sudden, his lungs must have felt they needed to dig deep and he exhaled the most offensive, stale smoke smell from his mouth. I just about puked. Smokers, occasional smokers, cigar only smokers, any sort of smoker - not for me." Interesting.... well I will call you a smokerphob One or two cigarettes does not make me a smoker | |||
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"I have never her such a load of rubbish in my life. You are a smoker, and a guy that meets guys or tv's is not straight. You are in denial. " You won't last too long on the forums with this attitude | |||
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" I am honest on my profile.. I'm a non smoker. Surely having a occasionally cigarette every now and then would not warrant calling me a smoker Sorry, you are a smoker. Going by your standards, one could argue that if a virgin has sex only occasionally, then he or she is still a virgin? At this point I can clearly state the fact that I am a non-smoker and an ex-virgin! " In the world of fab , you can class yourself as whatever you want. You're not supposed to judge other people's actions. Just what they tell you | |||
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"I have never her such a load of rubbish in my life. You are a smoker, and a guy that meets guys or tv's is not straight. You are in denial. You won't last too long on the forums with this attitude " Look at that wrong again. We are regularly on the forums. | |||
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"I have never her such a load of rubbish in my life. You are a smoker, and a guy that meets guys or tv's is not straight. You are in denial. You won't last too long on the forums with this attitude " yeah don't be realistic or honest this is fantasy fab land, no labels please. The op can call himself whatever he wants and don't question him for it. | |||
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"As an ex-smoker, of some 60 a day at times, think I can say with some authority: stale smoke stinks, even when smoking the following day my clothes used to turn my stomach so can fully understand why people won't meet smokers, sorry! Being a ex smoker you shouldn't be so closed minded... I don't smoke more than 2 a day. Plus I don't smoke inside my apartment and car. So my clothes are fine. Please do not judge me by your standards My ex was a smoker he would never smoke in the house but the smell does follow him on his clothes that smell then seeped into the fabric of my sofa (so much so I got a new one once we split) so it does carry/Linger you just don't notice it because you're the smoker " Bullocks... I can go weeks/months without a cigarette so my sofa is clean. Remember I don't smoke everyday. So I'm not a smoker. What can't you understand? | |||
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" You won't last too long on the forums with this attitude " Actually, I find that attitude offensive. You are not the arbiter of standards on this forum... You are a smoker though! | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker " Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities There you go then. You're meeting people who don't meet smokers but say you might want a cigarette after sex. " Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch | |||
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"As an ex-smoker, of some 60 a day at times, think I can say with some authority: stale smoke stinks, even when smoking the following day my clothes used to turn my stomach so can fully understand why people won't meet smokers, sorry! Being a ex smoker you shouldn't be so closed minded... I don't smoke more than 2 a day. Plus I don't smoke inside my apartment and car. So my clothes are fine. Please do not judge me by your standards My ex was a smoker he would never smoke in the house but the smell does follow him on his clothes that smell then seeped into the fabric of my sofa (so much so I got a new one once we split) so it does carry/Linger you just don't notice it because you're the smoker Bullocks... I can go weeks/months without a cigarette so my sofa is clean. Remember I don't smoke everyday. So I'm not a smoker. What can't you understand?" You are a smoker, you smoke. Not frequently. But there is not a standard you have to adhere to yo qualify for the title, it is not a club. You either do it or you don't. | |||
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"I have never her such a load of rubbish in my life. You are a smoker, and a guy that meets guys or tv's is not straight. You are in denial. You won't last too long on the forums with this attitude yeah don't be realistic or honest this is fantasy fab land, no labels please. The op can call himself whatever he wants and don't question him for it. " I am a hibiscus. | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms." how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms." This is utter rubbish, are you saying there is no physical risk of having sex with men? How about a torn anus ? I'm sure nothing will happen to your ass by having a guy stick his cock there? | |||
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"Op.....are you being troublesome again?? " No I'm sticking up for my rights I fighting back all the bullies | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt " How does it make you gay? | |||
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" You won't last too long on the forums with this attitude Actually, I find that attitude offensive. You are not the arbiter of standards on this forum... You are a smoker though!" Please forgive me. I wasn't trying to be rude to you or come off condescending. I get so frustrated by people attacking me and putting labels on me. In my head I'm not a smoker, no matter what anyone says. Because I don't smoke everyday | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay?" well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. | |||
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"If you were not a smoker,then you wouldn't even think about having a cigarette.. So if I only think about smoking once a year am I still a smoker? If you have that cigarette in my company,after we have sex,you're a smoker. " For you I would wait until I left the hotel or to be honest... I might not smoke at all | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch" You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" Do you suffer with OCD? | |||
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"Oh OP, after all you've said about how people should be honest on their profiles. Shame on you! I am honest on my profile.. I'm a non smoker. Surely having a occasionally cigarette every now and then would not warrant calling me a smoker " Well done you have woken up the botches again he he | |||
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"Oh OP, after all you've said about how people should be honest on their profiles. Shame on you! I am honest on my profile.. I'm a non smoker. Surely having a occasionally cigarette every now and then would not warrant calling me a smoker Well done you have woken up the botches again he he " oops bitches | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Do you suffer with OCD?" No I just hate to be dirty | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay." Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. " How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple?" ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that. | |||
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"If you were not a smoker,then you wouldn't even think about having a cigarette.. So if I only think about smoking once a year am I still a smoker? If you have that cigarette in my company,after we have sex,you're a smoker. For you I would wait until I left the hotel or to be honest... I might not smoke at all" And that would be perfectly ok by me,but some men don't. | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Do you suffer with OCD? No I just hate to be dirty" Do you have to wash your hands 10 times a day and if you don't, do you get all anxious and panicky? | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker " OMG cant believe they just said that! Do not pigeonhole it is abusive | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that." I appreciate what you're saying. But you can't label people "gay" just for that. | |||
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"If you were not a smoker,then you wouldn't even think about having a cigarette.. So if I only think about smoking once a year am I still a smoker? If you have that cigarette in my company,after we have sex,you're a smoker. For you I would wait until I left the hotel or to be honest... I might not smoke at all And that would be perfectly ok by me,but some men don't. " You would smell or taste a thing | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Do you suffer with OCD? No I just hate to be dirty Do you have to wash your hands 10 times a day and if you don't, do you get all anxious and panicky?" No not at all. I touch door knobs and will leave dishes in the sink overnight | |||
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"If you were not a smoker,then you wouldn't even think about having a cigarette.. So if I only think about smoking once a year am I still a smoker? If you have that cigarette in my company,after we have sex,you're a smoker. For you I would wait until I left the hotel or to be honest... I might not smoke at all And that would be perfectly ok by me,but some men don't. You would smell or taste a thing " You would not smell or taste a thing | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Do you suffer with OCD? No I just hate to be dirty Do you have to wash your hands 10 times a day and if you don't, do you get all anxious and panicky? No not at all. I touch door knobs and will leave dishes in the sink overnight " Ok, just thought it a strange thing to say, that you wash your hands ten times a day. Do you have to have a shower as soon as you've had sex? | |||
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"I haven't had a cigarette since 29th October 2006. I feel safe enough to call myself a non smoker. If, like you, I last had a cigarette recently and planned on having another one in the near future, I would call myself a smoker. You smoke. You haven't stopped smoking, you will continue to smoke. A smoker is what you are. " I think what I'm writing is getting lost in translation or some of you are not reading. If I go six months without a cigarette or vape during that six months I'm a non smoker. If I had 3 cigarettes or vape for another 6 months That's 3 cigarettes for the year. How could you call a person a smoker who has smoked 3 cigarettes in 1 year? | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that. I appreciate what you're saying. But you can't label people "gay" just for that." hard to agree with them when they say they are straight though isn't it. | |||
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"Op.....are you being troublesome again?? I think you're getting him confused with someone else " you mean me I just have an opinion and a lot don't like it for some reason what can I do. | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that. I appreciate what you're saying. But you can't label people "gay" just for that. hard to agree with them when they say they are straight though isn't it. " Start a thread. Don't take over this one. | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S Do you suffer with OCD? No I just hate to be dirty Do you have to wash your hands 10 times a day and if you don't, do you get all anxious and panicky? No not at all. I touch door knobs and will leave dishes in the sink overnight Ok, just thought it a strange thing to say, that you wash your hands ten times a day. Do you have to have a shower as soon as you've had sex?" I work in a big office and I'm constantly spilling things on myself and hands. Also I use the phone and computers a lot. So I'm constantly washing my hands and using hand sanitizer. Plus I might have a smoke if it's a stressful day. I always shower before and after sex. I don't think that's crazy | |||
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"As an ex-smoker, of some 60 a day at times, think I can say with some authority: stale smoke stinks, even when smoking the following day my clothes used to turn my stomach so can fully understand why people won't meet smokers, sorry! Being a ex smoker you shouldn't be so closed minded... I don't smoke more than 2 a day. Plus I don't smoke inside my apartment and car. So my clothes are fine. Please do not judge me by your standards My ex was a smoker he would never smoke in the house but the smell does follow him on his clothes that smell then seeped into the fabric of my sofa (so much so I got a new one once we split) so it does carry/Linger you just don't notice it because you're the smoker Bullocks... I can go weeks/months without a cigarette so my sofa is clean. Remember I don't smoke everyday. So I'm not a smoker. What can't you understand?" It's only bollocks because your attuned to the smell, sorry your pissed off you're not getting laid because of the fact your a social smoker, but tough tits, get over it, your opinion of wether you stink or not isn't any less or more important than anyone else's | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. " Oh I took it as he was just flirting with us | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that. I appreciate what you're saying. But you can't label people "gay" just for that. hard to agree with them when they say they are straight though isn't it. Start a thread. Don't take over this one." this is what this thread is about if you haven't already worked it out | |||
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"After reading all these posts I need a fucking fAG...oops does that make me gay op " No I don't believe in labels.... You think it , therefore you're. Your actions are inconsequential to what you think you are. | |||
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"Op.....are you being troublesome again?? I think you're getting him confused with someone else you mean me I just have an opinion and a lot don't like it for some reason what can I do." That's funny,but no I can say hand on heart I wasn't referring you,I wasn't referring to anyone but the op. Where the heck do you come into my post | |||
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"As an ex-smoker, of some 60 a day at times, think I can say with some authority: stale smoke stinks, even when smoking the following day my clothes used to turn my stomach so can fully understand why people won't meet smokers, sorry! Being a ex smoker you shouldn't be so closed minded... I don't smoke more than 2 a day. Plus I don't smoke inside my apartment and car. So my clothes are fine. Please do not judge me by your standards My ex was a smoker he would never smoke in the house but the smell does follow him on his clothes that smell then seeped into the fabric of my sofa (so much so I got a new one once we split) so it does carry/Linger you just don't notice it because you're the smoker Bullocks... I can go weeks/months without a cigarette so my sofa is clean. Remember I don't smoke everyday. So I'm not a smoker. What can't you understand? It's only bollocks because your attuned to the smell, sorry your pissed off you're not getting laid because of the fact your a social smoker, but tough tits, get over it, your opinion of wether you stink or not isn't any less or more important than anyone else's " You made a beautiful point. Try to stick to this line of thinking in other facets of the swinging world... You can't have it both ways | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that. I appreciate what you're saying. But you can't label people "gay" just for that. hard to agree with them when they say they are straight though isn't it. Start a thread. Don't take over this one. this is what this thread is about if you haven't already worked it out " Oh, i thought it was about smoking. | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker " Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. | |||
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"If I am reading between the lines right I get what the OP is saying You don't need to read between the lines,you like to think you're a non smoker and that's fine..." Thank you , because actions speak louder than words | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. " My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? | |||
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"I haven't had a cigarette since 29th October 2006. I feel safe enough to call myself a non smoker. If, like you, I last had a cigarette recently and planned on having another one in the near future, I would call myself a smoker. You smoke. You haven't stopped smoking, you will continue to smoke. A smoker is what you are. I think what I'm writing is getting lost in translation or some of you are not reading. If I go six months without a cigarette or vape during that six months I'm a non smoker. If I had 3 cigarettes or vape for another 6 months That's 3 cigarettes for the year. How could you call a person a smoker who has smoked 3 cigarettes in 1 year? " It wouldn't bother me if someone was an occasional smoker,but if I put will meet smokers that could mean someone will chain smoke in my presence and taste of nicotine. | |||
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"So you do smoke then,that makes you a smoker I don't care how many it is that still makes you a smoker... I'm shocked at you You of people should know if a straight guy plays with a guy occasionally. He is still Straight So if I smoke occasionally. I'm still a non smoker Smoking and sex are different. So uality is different to whether you smoke or not. You either smoke or don't smoke. That is binary. However having a guy suck your penis does not make you gay. Smoking changes you, you may not notice, but it does. Having sexual activity with different sexes will not produce physical symptoms. how does having a guy suck your dick not make you gay? you are so far I denial you should move to Egypt How does it make you gay? well a straight man would be turned off at the thought of putting his dick in another mans mouth. To still be aroused is very bi or gay. Very bi? What's a little bi then? Just touching one nipple? ah you know what I mean don't act silly you are cleverer than that. I appreciate what you're saying. But you can't label people "gay" just for that. hard to agree with them when they say they are straight though isn't it. Start a thread. Don't take over this one. this is what this thread is about if you haven't already worked it out Oh, i thought it was about smoking." he is making a comparison, do you really think the op would tell someone he was a social smoker if it might ruin his chances of getting sex | |||
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"If I am reading between the lines right I get what the OP is saying You don't need to read between the lines,you like to think you're a non smoker and that's fine... Thank you , because actions speak louder than words " You're having a smoke right now aren't you | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? " My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. Oh I took it as he was just flirting with us " | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself " You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? | |||
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"If I am reading between the lines right I get what the OP is saying You don't need to read between the lines,you like to think you're a non smoker and that's fine... Thank you , because actions speak louder than words You're having a smoke right now aren't you " No it's 11am here. And I won't hit the pub until around 7 pm . So I'll have one then | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? " But how do we know you're not fantasising that it's really a cigarette? | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? " You also have cigarettes, cigarettes contain nicotine so do most vapours it is still medically classified as smoking because you are in taking nicotine, it's also what leaves the unpleasant taste and odour though it is highly diluted in vapours it's still present | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? But how do we know you're not fantasising that it's really a cigarette? " That's ridiculous... If I wanted to smoke a cigarette.. I'm honest with myself enough to just do it and not hide | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? You also have cigarettes, cigarettes contain nicotine so do most vapours it is still medically classified as smoking because you are in taking nicotine, it's also what leaves the unpleasant taste and odour though it is highly diluted in vapours it's still present " Furthermore I'm not regarding the medical fact as law, many facts aren't the law doesn't make them less true | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? But how do we know you're not fantasising that it's really a cigarette? That's ridiculous... If I wanted to smoke a cigarette.. I'm honest with myself enough to just do it and not hide " Bit like men who like women to use anal toys on them really? | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? You also have cigarettes, cigarettes contain nicotine so do most vapours it is still medically classified as smoking because you are in taking nicotine, it's also what leaves the unpleasant taste and odour though it is highly diluted in vapours it's still present " Is this 2016 or 1916 Your way of thinking is so outdated. I'm very surprised I would run into this on a swinging site. I hope the next generation will overcome this fierce labeling that everyone seems to do on here. Smoking is not like it used to be. Back in time people didn't have manners and would smoke anywhere. Bus , trains , restaurants, hospitals, and even airplanes. Nowadays With not being allowed to smoke indoors and even some public places. A new generation of smokers has come along. They are called respectful smokers. They may smoke but their clothes don't stink , their mouth doesn't stink , and you can't smell smoke on them. Do they smoke ? Yes only sometimes , that could be once a day , month or year. Can you call them smokers ? No because although they smoke sometimes you can't put that label on them. Because you have no right , and smoking is something that is fluid and changing all the time. In the beginning you had chewing tobacco, cigarettes, and cigars. Now we have electronic cigarettes and hookahs. Please get out of the Stone Age and get with the modern world . | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" We three are lifelong non smokers . We do not care that you smoke . We however do not wish to have intimate sex with a smoker . It's your choice to smoke . It's our choice not to meet you because you smoke . | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities But you said you rarely have one and only with a drink. If you're wanting a cigarette after sex you're definitely a smoker Well during the meet I think I will drink before during and after sex. So it's not the sex that makes me smoke.. It's the drinking " This just gets better and better ! We wouldn't want to have sex with a d*unken piss head either who has his cock in one hand and a bottle of beer in the other ! | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" It's not because your a smoker its because you don't have tits I get messages daily from people who state they won't smokers If your a single women and there is half a chance of them getting a shag from you this statement does not seem to apply | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch You really are an argumentative person. That's like me saying all Americans are racist rednecks. You need to take a chill pill and just understand. Your a smoker. How could you class me as a smoker? Society has no bearing on what I class myself. I don't smoke everyday, sometimes I VAPE So there for I am not a smoker Tell your doctor you only smoke socially and he will medically label you a smoker. Believe whatever you want you are a smoker. My doctor had no bearing on what I class myself. Can't you understand you are being closed minded and labeling me? My point is it's a medically undeniable fact that your a smoker it's not a personal label I'm giving you. For someone that already said she doesn't mine shagging smokers I don't see why giving you the medical facts is closed mined, unless of course your in denial of your medicinal smoker status and therefore being ironically closed minded yourself You're holding what the medical community as law.. What are you going to bring the church into this next? This has no bearing on my life. I vape so I can't be called a smoker..its electronic.. Can't you understand that? You also have cigarettes, cigarettes contain nicotine so do most vapours it is still medically classified as smoking because you are in taking nicotine, it's also what leaves the unpleasant taste and odour though it is highly diluted in vapours it's still present Is this 2016 or 1916 Your way of thinking is so outdated. I'm very surprised I would run into this on a swinging site. I hope the next generation will overcome this fierce labeling that everyone seems to do on here. Smoking is not like it used to be. Back in time people didn't have manners and would smoke anywhere. Bus , trains , restaurants, hospitals, and even airplanes. Nowadays With not being allowed to smoke indoors and even some public places. A new generation of smokers has come along. They are called respectful smokers. They may smoke but their clothes don't stink , their mouth doesn't stink , and you can't smell smoke on them. Do they smoke ? Yes only sometimes , that could be once a day , month or year. Can you call them smokers ? No because although they smoke sometimes you can't put that label on them. Because you have no right , and smoking is something that is fluid and changing all the time. In the beginning you had chewing tobacco, cigarettes, and cigars. Now we have electronic cigarettes and hookahs. Please get out of the Stone Age and get with the modern world . " I live in the modern world I just do so with a reality check of Irrefutable facts. As mentioned previously your views are as closed minded as many others present | |||
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"For a community that prides itself as being open minded and non judgmental. I am shocked at the amount of people that don't understand smokers and the many nuances of smoking. The ignorance is truly appalling. I have non smoker on my profile but smoke occasionally and the amount of people that refuse to meet me because I revealed during a chat I like an occasionally cigarette.. Has taken me back... Since fab doesn't have a choice of smoking options. I'm pigeonholed.So let me explain what kind of smoker I am.. I don't smoke everyday , mostly when I go out drinking. I don't smoke in my apartment or car. I carry gum , baby wipes, and cologne to use after every cigarette. I wash my hands 10 times per day and take 3 showers daily. I can go weeks and months without a cigarette. If I have a meet that day/night I don't smoke after I shower. On holidays abroad I tend to smoke more due to the fact I'm going out more. Sometimes I vape with my friends. But I don't own a vape machine. It's just something I will do if I'm drinking and no cigarettes are around. This is not a moan.. I just feel like one of those guys that have straight on his profile but message couples telling them he is bi , or the guy who is straight and meets tv/ts/tg and other men for sex ... that's still straight. I feel your pain , they can't pigeonhole you as gay. They can't pigeonhole me as a smoker.. I'm not trying to be deceitful or lead anyone on. When setting up a meet. I just think there could be a category on Fab for social smokers or part time smokers. S" You Funny! | |||
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"Why reveal it then ? If you're not going to be doing it in front of them I don't see the point in mentioning it tbh Because if we are going to have sex. I'm might want a smoke after. I try to cover all possibilities But you said you rarely have one and only with a drink. If you're wanting a cigarette after sex you're definitely a smoker Well during the meet I think I will drink before during and after sex. So it's not the sex that makes me smoke.. It's the drinking This just gets better and better ! We wouldn't want to have sex with a d*unken piss head either who has his cock in one hand and a bottle of beer in the other ! " That's the vision you get after reading what I wrote How about us in a nice hotel suite. Think mandarin orient in Knightsbridge or the Dorchester hotel with 2 bottles of champagne... after we have fully exhausted ourselves from great sex. I go out to the balcony to vape. Come back and have a quick shower then get on to more great sex | |||
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" Being honest is not rewarded here... You Brits are a off bunch" Bit below the belt that...but then, when losing an argument, resort to abuse. | |||
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