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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' " It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy " | |||
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"It's a trap! If you don't think you're exceptional then you're probably not. If you do, you've probably got an oversized ego / opinion of yourself .. So you can't win. Me? I skip past those profiles. Their loss (except it isn't, as I'm not what they're after anyway - but I'll keep saying it to kid myself and make myself feel better! )"Same here  | |||
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"It's a trap! If you don't think you're exceptional then you're probably not. If you do, you've probably got an oversized ego / opinion of yourself .. So you can't win. Me? I skip past those profiles. Their loss (except it isn't, as I'm not what they're after anyway - but I'll keep saying it to kid myself and make myself feel better! )"This.. Everyone is unique and therefore exceptional in their own way. I also agree with what was said above. It could be a warning sign for a woman in a couple whom really isn't into it. What they mean to say is "only men I deem to be perfect" which is a crock.. You're on a swingers site and going on like you're part of high society. Pull that dick out of your ass and put a smile on your face! | |||
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"Perhaps ladies who expect it have really low standards thus making exceptional quite average Positive thinking " Nah they're usually stuck up and want a 10/10 every time. No problem with that. But making others feel like shit as a result of your rude attitude and lack of manners makes you a cunt by proxy. | |||
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"Im Sparticus" *Spartacus | |||
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"Im Sparticus *Spartacus" Tomatoe, tomatta, who cares | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for." Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? | |||
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"It's one of those words you see on some profiles......exceptional / professional & the Sydney Uni bollox "Welllll...... Professional tells me they want the guy to not be a chav. No problem with that Exceptional says. We are soooo precious Sydney makes the tea | |||
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"It's one of those words you see on some profiles......exceptional / professional & the Sydney Uni bollox
Welllll......
Professional tells me they want the guy to not be a chav. No problem with that
Exceptional says. We are soooo precious
Sydney makes the tea "Are they being precious by having exceptional as a preference? Better than saying ~ dross don't message me.... | |||
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"It's one of those words you see on some profiles......exceptional / professional & the Sydney Uni bollox
Welllll......
Professional tells me they want the guy to not be a chav. No problem with that
Exceptional says. We are soooo precious
Sydney makes the tea
Are they being precious by having exceptional as a preference?
Better than saying ~ dross don't message me...."Like I said above, it's like "quality over quantity", and nobody seems to take issue with that on a profile. They don't want lots of meets just a few with people who really excite them. I don't see the problem. | |||
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"Im Sparticus *Spartacus Tomatoe, tomatta, who cares" Spartacus probably cared. | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ?" She doesn't have to be though, its what shes looking for. | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? She doesn't have to be though, its what shes looking for." So champagne taste with beer money | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? She doesn't have to be though, its what shes looking for. So champagne taste with beer money "haha brilliant | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ?" I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse... | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse..." Bless ya | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? She doesn't have to be though, its what shes looking for. So champagne taste with beer money "I have a taste for both...it all depends on my mood...
Whatever you drink always tastes better without the hard done by taste in your mouth though... | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy " | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse..." Do you look at the light hearted stuff? Or choose just to look at the negative stuff Kick someone off their high horse and jump on yourself??? | |||
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"Exceptional males on here... any man that can communicate in language more complicated than a grunt. "Or doesn't get his panties in a wad when told no thanks | |||
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"Exceptional males on here... any man that can communicate in language more complicated than a grunt.
Or doesn't get his panties in a wad when told no thanks "I'm finally exceptional | |||
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"Exceptional males on here... any man that can communicate in language more complicated than a grunt.
Or doesn't get his panties in a wad when told no thanks "Or tells the single girls no thanks because they're not exceptional enough. | |||
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"Its usually unexceptional ppl that say that "Disagree! When we use 'exceptional' we mean don't be Dull and 'alright Live wanna see my Cock' | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse... Do you look at the light hearted stuff? Or choose just to look at the negative stuff Kick someone off their high horse and jump on yourself???" Whatever they looked at they were right and you did get on your high horse. Why does it matter to you what anyone is looking for, even if you think they don't deserve it, (and that's just your opinion, based on your values. Other opinions, based on other values are available)? Why does it matter if someone does think they are special? Not that looking for someone who stands out to them suggests they are. You clearly think you are special in that you think you can decide what other people should be looking for. How does that work exactly? Are you part of the bringing women down a peg or two police? Or maybe the unrealistic expectations police? Do they work from the same station as the grammar police? If you perceive that someone thinks they are special and that makes you not want to meet them, let them get on with it and be happy they probably wouldn't want to meet you either. | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse... Do you look at the light hearted stuff? Or choose just to look at the negative stuff Kick someone off their high horse and jump on yourself??? Whatever they looked at they were right and you did get on your high horse. Why does it matter to you what anyone is looking for, even if you think they don't deserve it, (and that's just your opinion, based on your values. Other opinions, based on other values are available)? Why does it matter if someone does think they are special? Not that looking for someone who stands out to them suggests they are. You clearly think you are special in that you think you can decide what other people should be looking for. How does that work exactly? Are you part of the bringing women down a peg or two police? Or maybe the unrealistic expectations police? Do they work from the same station as the grammar police? If you perceive that someone thinks they are special and that makes you not want to meet them, let them get on with it and be happy they probably wouldn't want to meet you either." Fish | |||
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"Good physique, intelligent, charismatic, handsome, good sized penis, experienced in bed, generally finesse and style. Rules out about 95% of men." I have at least one of these traits ! I spend every night in bed so I'd say i was experienced in that department | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse... Do you look at the light hearted stuff? Or choose just to look at the negative stuff Kick someone off their high horse and jump on yourself??? Whatever they looked at they were right and you did get on your high horse. Why does it matter to you what anyone is looking for, even if you think they don't deserve it, (and that's just your opinion, based on your values. Other opinions, based on other values are available)? Why does it matter if someone does think they are special? Not that looking for someone who stands out to them suggests they are. You clearly think you are special in that you think you can decide what other people should be looking for. How does that work exactly? Are you part of the bringing women down a peg or two police? Or maybe the unrealistic expectations police? Do they work from the same station as the grammar police? If you perceive that someone thinks they are special and that makes you not want to meet them, let them get on with it and be happy they probably wouldn't want to meet you either." I've just started to read your profile Gave up I can see why you got so upset now I've only asked questions here Opinions and points of view You choose to get irate That's upto you I'm smiling | |||
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"Good physique, intelligent, charismatic, handsome, good sized penis, experienced in bed, generally finesse and style. Rules out about 95% of men." The gym is my 2nd home  | |||
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"Fish" Alarmingly, that's the most intelligent, sensible thing you've posted on this thread. I'm actually wondering if any woman on here _doesn't_ feel sufficiently special to only meet the men she most wants to meet. If not, if any of them actually believe any of the bitter bilge spewed by the men who think they are entitled to meets and think they are entitled to dictate who anyone else should meet, that's pretty sad. I really hope every woman values herself more highly than that. Every person on here, male, female or other, is special enough to decide who they want to meet and decline to meet anyone they don't want to meet. That is the case even if someone else - a random stranger from the internet no less - believes what they want to be unrealistic. People can look for exactly what they want, even if they'll rarely, if ever, find it. That's their issue and theirs alone. | |||
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"Good physique, intelligent, charismatic, handsome, good sized penis, experienced in bed, generally finesse and style. Rules out about 95% of men." yes I fit the bill | |||
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"Fish Alarmingly, that's the most intelligent, sensible thing you've posted on this thread. I'm actually wondering if any woman on here _doesn't_ feel sufficiently special to only meet the men she most wants to meet. If not, if any of them actually believe any of the bitter bilge spewed by the men who think they are entitled to meets and think they are entitled to dictate who anyone else should meet, that's pretty sad. I really hope every woman values herself more highly than that. Every person on here, male, female or other, is special enough to decide who they want to meet and decline to meet anyone they don't want to meet. That is the case even if someone else - a random stranger from the internet no less - believes what they want to be unrealistic. People can look for exactly what they want, even if they'll rarely, if ever, find it. That's their issue and theirs alone." I'm not arguing I don't see why your getting so shitty Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Now cheer up | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance" Irony. | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse... Do you look at the light hearted stuff? Or choose just to look at the negative stuff Kick someone off their high horse and jump on yourself??? Whatever they looked at they were right and you did get on your high horse. Why does it matter to you what anyone is looking for, even if you think they don't deserve it, (and that's just your opinion, based on your values. Other opinions, based on other values are available)? Why does it matter if someone does think they are special? Not that looking for someone who stands out to them suggests they are. You clearly think you are special in that you think you can decide what other people should be looking for. How does that work exactly? Are you part of the bringing women down a peg or two police? Or maybe the unrealistic expectations police? Do they work from the same station as the grammar police? If you perceive that someone thinks they are special and that makes you not want to meet them, let them get on with it and be happy they probably wouldn't want to meet you either. I've just started to read your profile Gave up I can see why you got so upset now I've only asked questions here Opinions and points of view You choose to get irate That's upto you I'm smiling " I'm not irate at all. As for my profile, it states what I'm looking for. If someone can't be arsed to spend a minute or two reading it, they aren't really that interested in meeting me. In that way I start to filter out those unexceptional to me. If they don't care what I'm looking for or won't respect my preferences, they won't respect me. More filtering. It works pretty well. And I'm offered a fair bit of champagne. But then, whatever anyone else thinks, (usually without knowing me at all), I am worthy of holding out for champagne, if that's what I decide I want. There's not a single person with the right to tell me who I should or shouldn't share my body with. And if there were, it wouldn't be a stranger on the internet. | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony." Enough to make a scrap man salivate  | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony." Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ????" As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant." Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please | |||
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"It's one of those words you see on some profiles......exceptional / professional & the Sydney Uni bollox " | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please " Raise your eyes a smidge to the part of your post I quoted where you said that a woman wanting an exceptional male smacks of arrogance. | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please Raise your eyes a smidge to the part of your post I quoted where you said that a woman wanting an exceptional male smacks of arrogance." So I didn't actually call anyone arrogant Generalisation and 'smacks of' You see what you want to see | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? She doesn't have to be though, its what shes looking for. So champagne taste with beer money "Take it or leave it. If its not what you really want go without. | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please Raise your eyes a smidge to the part of your post I quoted where you said that a woman wanting an exceptional male smacks of arrogance. So I didn't actually call anyone arrogant Generalisation and 'smacks of' You see what you want to see " And when I stated your post was ironic, you were the one who thought I was calling you arrogant. You see what you want to see indeed. | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please Raise your eyes a smidge to the part of your post I quoted where you said that a woman wanting an exceptional male smacks of arrogance. So I didn't actually call anyone arrogant Generalisation and 'smacks of' You see what you want to see And when I stated your post was ironic, you were the one who thought I was calling you arrogant. You see what you want to see indeed." Weren't you?? | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please Raise your eyes a smidge to the part of your post I quoted where you said that a woman wanting an exceptional male smacks of arrogance. So I didn't actually call anyone arrogant Generalisation and 'smacks of' You see what you want to see And when I stated your post was ironic, you were the one who thought I was calling you arrogant. You see what you want to see indeed." x 1 meeeeellion. | |||
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"I like a normal kinky Dom. I think they must be expectational because I can't find one. Maybe I should advertise x" I can play the spoons !!!! | |||
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"I like a normal kinky Dom. I think they must be expectational because I can't find one. Maybe I should advertise x I can play the spoons !!!!" Ooh you spoon exceptionally?? If not you won't be for me  | |||
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"Of course it's about choice But you can be specific in your choice without demanding 'exceptional' Smacks of arrogance Irony. Really hope your not saying I'm arrogant Coz you know me well don't you ???? As well as you know the women you're calling arrogant. Please forward me the part where I called her arrogant Please please please Raise your eyes a smidge to the part of your post I quoted where you said that a woman wanting an exceptional male smacks of arrogance. So I didn't actually call anyone arrogant Generalisation and 'smacks of' You see what you want to see And when I stated your post was ironic, you were the one who thought I was calling you arrogant. You see what you want to see indeed. x 1 meeeeellion."Fancy a shag | |||
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"Good physique, intelligent, charismatic, handsome, good sized penis, experienced in bed, generally finesse and style. Rules out about 95% of men.The gym is my 2nd home "The library should be your second home and the gym your third home. | |||
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"Good physique, intelligent, charismatic, handsome, good sized penis, experienced in bed, generally finesse and style. Rules out about 95% of men.The gym is my 2nd home "Mine too, but like one that i rent out and never actually go to | |||
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"It does make you laugh the exceptional male craic. The reason in my opinion, is because sex is the the commodity on this site and women rule the roost so some think they are suddenly superstars. The reality is that the ones that are so far up themselves are the most insecure and try to compensate for that by thinking they are desirable to the 'exceptional male'. For me it's purely an ego thing rather than the attraction. I've found that also as a man on here, success is a combination of opportunity, timing and mindset of the female. If one of those things is off you've got little to no chance "Now you see I'm on board with this completely Now I'm curious to see if this gets the kind of 'string him up by the bollocks' reaction I got last night Possibly not Well said that man | |||
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"If this thread teaches anyone anything it is further evidence of the folly of giving people a keyboard to hide behind and allowing them to post whatever bullshit they can think up without having any comeback from whatever utterly reprehensible childish shite they dream up. " Or it's a giggle | |||
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"If this thread teaches anyone anything it is further evidence of the folly of giving people a keyboard to hide behind and allowing them to post whatever bullshit they can think up without having any comeback from whatever utterly reprehensible childish shite they dream up. " No shit. | |||
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"It's a trap!" Can we have a vote for fab to make an admiral ackbar emoticon? | |||
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"I think this needs to end now It was supposed to be a question But it kinda turned into something else. Whilst by definition the exceptional is what it is. Most people ask for what they are seeking and we all must respect that I know I do Let's be friends " Any yet you continued it with the comment about being on board with another insulting criticism of women being picky and saying well said that man. We can agree to disagree, of course, but I'm going to continue to react badly to posts insulting women for only wanting to meet the men who appeal most to them. It's not like men don't do this whenever they get the chance. I give you Mr. Hefner and Mr. Stringfellow as examples. The male reaction to that is "good on him" and "lucky bastard", not insults and accusations of them being up themselves for not sticking to women those men think are Mr. Stringfellow's and Mr. Hefner's equals in terms of looks. | |||
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"We don't use the term on our profile but for me, it's not them who decide that they're exceptional, it's us. As in they are someone for whom we're prepared to make an exception to our not being interested in single men rule for. Ok so what makes you so special that you can make such demands ? I don't say we are and if you read my answer you'll see that actually I say the exact opposite. We don't ask that anyone considers themselves exceptional-in fact I take exception to the word...what it means to us is that it's someone WE will make an exception for...or was that too difficult for you to understand? ...but then perhaps I was being deliberately provocative because having seen your previous posts, I knew you'd probably misinterpret what I said in order to get on your high horse... Do you look at the light hearted stuff? Or choose just to look at the negative stuff Kick someone off their high horse and jump on yourself??? Whatever they looked at they were right and you did get on your high horse. Why does it matter to you what anyone is looking for, even if you think they don't deserve it, (and that's just your opinion, based on your values. Other opinions, based on other values are available)? Why does it matter if someone does think they are special? Not that looking for someone who stands out to them suggests they are. You clearly think you are special in that you think you can decide what other people should be looking for. How does that work exactly? Are you part of the bringing women down a peg or two police? Or maybe the unrealistic expectations police? Do they work from the same station as the grammar police? If you perceive that someone thinks they are special and that makes you not want to meet them, let them get on with it and be happy they probably wouldn't want to meet you either." This x | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already." It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'. | |||
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"I think this needs to end now It was supposed to be a question But it kinda turned into something else. Whilst by definition the exceptional is what it is. Most people ask for what they are seeking and we all must respect that I know I do Let's be friends Any yet you continued it with the comment about being on board with another insulting criticism of women being picky and saying well said that man. We can agree to disagree, of course, but I'm going to continue to react badly to posts insulting women for only wanting to meet the men who appeal most to them. It's not like men don't do this whenever they get the chance. I give you Mr. Hefner and Mr. Stringfellow as examples. The male reaction to that is "good on him" and "lucky bastard", not insults and accusations of them being up themselves for not sticking to women those men think are Mr. Stringfellow's and Mr. Hefner's equals in terms of looks." I give up Your not listening to anyone but the people who agree with you It's a debate A discussion Points of view I'm not right It's how I feel I've tried to make peace I'm out | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' " They are usually written by the deluded or the confused. whenever I see this on a profile I allways send them a polite message asking them what makes them exceptional, I havent had many suitable replies | |||
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"It does make you laugh the exceptional male craic. The reason in my opinion, is because sex is the the commodity on this site and women rule the roost so some think they are suddenly superstars. The reality is that the ones that are so far up themselves are the most insecure and try to compensate for that by thinking they are desirable to the 'exceptional male'. For me it's purely an ego thing rather than the attraction. I've found that also as a man on here, success is a combination of opportunity, timing and mindset of the female. If one of those things is off you've got little to no chance "I couldn't agree more, spot on | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy "That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !! ))))
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy
That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !!))))
Maybe....just maybe if she isn't willing to shag you...it's because she doesn't fancy you? Doesn't like you? Thinks you are a dick? ???? "Do you have a sense of humour?? | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy
That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !!))))
Maybe....just maybe if she isn't willing to shag you...it's because she doesn't fancy you? Doesn't like you? Thinks you are a dick? ???? "I think he was saying that tongue in cheek being sarcastic an not literal | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy
That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !!))))
Maybe....just maybe if she isn't willing to shag you...it's because she doesn't fancy you? Doesn't like you? Thinks you are a dick? ???? I think he was saying that tongue in cheek being sarcastic an not literal "You think??? Lol.... ah no. | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy
That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !!))))
Maybe....just maybe if she isn't willing to shag you...it's because she doesn't fancy you? Doesn't like you? Thinks you are a dick? ????
Do you have a sense of humour??"None whatsoever! !!
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already." | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'." You are, as most men do, assume that exceptional refers to looks. It doesn't. Women can find men exceptional for lots of different reasons. It's exactly the same as "quality over quantity" which loads of men write. I've not seen a man criticised or told he thinks too much for himself for saying it though. Women are here, usually, for something particular; something exceptional (whatever exceptional means to them). We can get average in the pub with a damned sight less hassle and abuse than we get here. We know we'll get fewer meets if we look for what really appeals to us and that we risk having no meets at all, and we accept that. Nobody has any right to tell anyone they shouldn't be looking for what they want, even if they are panning for gold. And they certainly shouldn't be insulting anyone for it. | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'." so what? Surely that's their problem, as they wont get any meets | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'. You are, as most men do, assume that exceptional refers to looks. It doesn't. Women can find men exceptional for lots of different reasons. It's exactly the same as "quality over quantity" which loads of men write. I've not seen a man criticised or told he thinks too much for himself for saying it though. Women are here, usually, for something particular; something exceptional (whatever exceptional means to them). We can get average in the pub with a damned sight less hassle and abuse than we get here. We know we'll get fewer meets if we look for what really appeals to us and that we risk having no meets at all, and we accept that. Nobody has any right to tell anyone they shouldn't be looking for what they want, even if they are panning for gold. And they certainly shouldn't be insulting anyone for it." I know what your saying but I think on a sex site aesthetic appearance counts a lot I mean you can be charming motherfucker but if they don't find you attractive it doesn't matter. Like I said fair play if people can get what they want on here you can't blame them, I'm just playing devils advocate I can see why some men get frustrated by so called double standards not myself personally though. | |||
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"I don't think there is anything wrong with believing I am exceptional. I have high standards and I know what I like. It's about healthy self esteem. Not to be confused with arrogant egotists! Some days I don't feel so confident like most people. I am human. But overall I believe I am worth the effort and time to get to know me. " ^ this! Yeah, I'm fat and average looking but I have plenty of other things going for me. Some guys appreciate them and some rule me out because the aesthetic factors are more important to them. I also have low confidence days (or months!) but overall I believe I am worth knowing and meeting. I'm certainly worthy of the right to meet only the guys who stand out to me for whatever reason, (i.e. the exceptional ones). Everyone has that right. | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'. so what? Surely that's their problem, as they wont get any meets" I know doesn't it bother me man as my standards are quite high. Just like seeing the big picture from all perspectives. | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy
That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !!))))
Maybe....just maybe if she isn't willing to shag you...it's because she doesn't fancy you? Doesn't like you? Thinks you are a dick? ????
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"I don't think there is anything wrong with believing I am exceptional. I have high standards and I know what I like. It's about healthy self esteem. Not to be confused with arrogant egotists! Some days I don't feel so confident like most people. I am human. But overall I believe I am worth the effort and time to get to know me. ^ this! Yeah, I'm fat and average looking but I have plenty of other things going for me. Some guys appreciate them and some rule me out because the aesthetic factors are more important to them. I also have low confidence days (or months!) but overall I believe I am worth knowing and meeting. I'm certainly worthy of the right to meet only the guys who stand out to me for whatever reason, (i.e. the exceptional ones). Everyone has that right." Totally!!!!! However despite popular myth that guys prefer slim petite women like me, I have found a large percentage prefer the more curvaceous ladies. | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'. You are, as most men do, assume that exceptional refers to looks. It doesn't. Women can find men exceptional for lots of different reasons. It's exactly the same as "quality over quantity" which loads of men write. I've not seen a man criticised or told he thinks too much for himself for saying it though. Women are here, usually, for something particular; something exceptional (whatever exceptional means to them). We can get average in the pub with a damned sight less hassle and abuse than we get here. We know we'll get fewer meets if we look for what really appeals to us and that we risk having no meets at all, and we accept that. Nobody has any right to tell anyone they shouldn't be looking for what they want, even if they are panning for gold. And they certainly shouldn't be insulting anyone for it. I know what your saying but I think on a sex site aesthetic appearance counts a lot I mean you can be charming motherfucker but if they don't find you attractive it doesn't matter. Like I said fair play if people can get what they want on here you can't blame them, I'm just playing devils advocate I can see why some men get frustrated by so called double standards not myself personally though. " Yes aestetics count but they aren't all there is to it. I'm here looking for guys I click with on a mental level. Sure, if they look like male models that's great but I'd rather have an average bloke who I click with than a male model I don't. Because you think it's all about aestetics doesn't mean everyone thinks the same way. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean exceptional in terms of looks. It might, but it doesn't have to. In my case it doesn't. To a guy into strap-on play a woman who enjoys strap-on play might be exceptional, because they share his kink. The same goes for someone into watersports or any other kink. To a crossdresser a woman who enjoys and supports his crossdressing would be exceptional. To me, aestetics are important but they are not the most important factor. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs." I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'. so what? Surely that's their problem, as they wont get any meets I know doesn't it bother me man as my standards are quite high. Just like seeing the big picture from all perspectives." You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. " Beautifully put | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. " Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put " Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace!  | |||
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"And yet plenty of people, many of them men, have "quality over quantity" or "I'm not looking to shag the whole site", which are expressing exactly the same sentiment and there's no bitching about that at all. Obviously a woman who only wants to shag the very few men who really appeal to her is arrogant and up herself. How very dare she not fuck anyone and everyone who asks. Exceptional doesn't necessarily mean male model material, it just means rare. It doesn't have to mean gorgeous. What each person finds exceptional will be an individual thing. Men who aren't bitter misogynists who think that just being here, slapping their cock out and sending "wanna fuck" messages will get them meets are pretty fucking rare on this site so maybe that's what these uppity women mean by exceptional. The degree of entitlement of a lot of men, particularly on the fora, is astounding. Big shock, women are here for what we want, not to service you! That the irony of men being so arrogant they think women should be falling over themselves to meet them, and get bitter (and uppity) when they're declined, painting those women as arrogant is both hysterical and very wearing. Most of you need to realise that you also aren't quite as wonderful as you think and the women you're bitching about have every right to turn you down. None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. If you're so full of yourself that you think you can decree that your opinion of someone is the one true opinion and that you can decide who that person is "worthy" of meeting, you are the one with ego and self-importance issues. Get over yourselves already. It is kind of double standards though, I imagine if someone is an exceptional male they would only play with ladies there attracted to as they would have high standards. This site gives a lot of women a false sense of worth even if they do hold all the cards because meeting nsa compared to dating is vastly different. A quote springs to mind ' your ego is trying to write cheques that your body can't cash'. so what? Surely that's their problem, as they wont get any meets I know doesn't it bother me man as my standards are quite high. Just like seeing the big picture from all perspectives. You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same." no I don't believe that at all I think exceptional is having more qualities than that such as being a gentleman, charming, having good social skills, intelligence and the list could go on. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible." Why do you come on here?? | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. " very true | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace! "I gave up when you shoved it back in my face Lots of people don't agree with you Give up Life's too short | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same." This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible." I have had nothing to do with any of the pathetic ranting and you also don't know what sex I am as this is a couple's profile. So don't bother trying to cast gender stereotypes in favour of your argument. As you can see I have just posted a comment in favour of something you said so whilst I understand that you are somewhat angry and you are sniping at anyone who disagrees with you or supports something someone you don't like has said, but don't bother suggesting that because some people are sexist against women that sexism against men should be condoned. That is hypocrisy of the most boring and pathetic order and does not do anything to stop sexism. All comments like that do are make sexism more rife by giving braindead idiots an excuse to have a dig, | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace!
I gave up when you shoved it back in my face
Lots of people don't agree with you
Give up
Life's too short "And plenty don't agree with you too. Give up you say, as you continue to perpetuate it?
As for resorting to being rude because you aren't getting your own way, (and as you well know I don't mean on this thread), it fits very well with your attitude and that of those you're agreeing with so I'm not in the least surprised by it. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace!
I gave up when you shoved it back in my face
Lots of people don't agree with you
Give up
Life's too short
And plenty don't agree with you too.
Give up you say, as you continue to perpetuate it?
As for resorting to being rude because you aren't getting your own way, (and as you well know I don't mean on this thread), it fits very well with your attitude and that of those you're agreeing with so I'm not in the least surprised by it."I think I've found ' the one' | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace!
I gave up when you shoved it back in my face
Lots of people don't agree with you
Give up
Life's too short
And plenty don't agree with you too.
Give up you say, as you continue to perpetuate it?
As for resorting to being rude because you aren't getting your own way, (and as you well know I don't mean on this thread), it fits very well with your attitude and that of those you're agreeing with so I'm not in the least surprised by it."So,why do you come on here, you don't come across as a being happy | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are." Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female." | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace!
I gave up when you shoved it back in my face
Lots of people don't agree with you
Give up
Life's too short
And plenty don't agree with you too.
Give up you say, as you continue to perpetuate it?
As for resorting to being rude because you aren't getting your own way, (and as you well know I don't mean on this thread), it fits very well with your attitude and that of those you're agreeing with so I'm not in the least surprised by it."the plot thickens | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female." It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Beautifully put Ah yes, I can see just how you're trying to end this and make peace!
I gave up when you shoved it back in my face
Lots of people don't agree with you
Give up
Life's too short
And plenty don't agree with you too.
Give up you say, as you continue to perpetuate it?
As for resorting to being rude because you aren't getting your own way, (and as you well know I don't mean on this thread), it fits very well with your attitude and that of those you're agreeing with so I'm not in the least surprised by it.
So,why do you come on here, you don't come across as a being happy "The site? Because I get great meets with some amazing people. The fora? I frequently leave for long periods of time. I've been back for a few days following weeks away. I'm perfectly happy, thanks, I just dislike seeing people bitching about others and I'll often react to it. Don't mistake strong opinions for unhappiness. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you." true again I think I wouldn't be allowed to post on here again if that happens | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you." On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity." Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible. I have had nothing to do with any of the pathetic ranting and you also don't know what sex I am as this is a couple's profile. So don't bother trying to cast gender stereotypes in favour of your argument. As you can see I have just posted a comment in favour of something you said so whilst I understand that you are somewhat angry and you are sniping at anyone who disagrees with you or supports something someone you don't like has said, but don't bother suggesting that because some people are sexist against women that sexism against men should be condoned. That is hypocrisy of the most boring and pathetic order and does not do anything to stop sexism. All comments like that do are make sexism more rife by giving braindead idiots an excuse to have a dig," Nothing I've said has anything to do with your sex. It's irrelevant. I found it funny to be accused of misandry on a thread absolutely dripping with misogyny. Incidentally, I disagree with your claim of misandry. This entire thread started with an observation about women by a man, and was followed by insulting comments about women from men. That's where the gender bias if my comments comes from because I am replying to a thread that was gender biased from the start. I believe everyone has the same right to their own preferences and to be picky. I'd say the same to any woman accusing a man of being arrogant for turning them down or for having preferences. Oddly though threads complaining men are picky and unrealistic are rare. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. true again I think I wouldn't be allowed to post on here again if that happens "Given some of the shite you speak, you would probably be in the jail. | |||
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"http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/forum Sorry, really pedantic I know, but it is doing my tits in. Fora are buildings. Forums are what we are using now." I disagree with you on that too but I'm not arguing that one on here. I'll stick to arguing on the topic of the thread. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. true again I think I wouldn't be allowed to post on here again if that happens
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible. I have had nothing to do with any of the pathetic ranting and you also don't know what sex I am as this is a couple's profile. So don't bother trying to cast gender stereotypes in favour of your argument. As you can see I have just posted a comment in favour of something you said so whilst I understand that you are somewhat angry and you are sniping at anyone who disagrees with you or supports something someone you don't like has said, but don't bother suggesting that because some people are sexist against women that sexism against men should be condoned. That is hypocrisy of the most boring and pathetic order and does not do anything to stop sexism. All comments like that do are make sexism more rife by giving braindead idiots an excuse to have a dig, Nothing I've said has anything to do with your sex. It's irrelevant. I found it funny to be accused of misandry on a thread absolutely dripping with misogyny. Incidentally, I disagree with your claim of misandry. This entire thread started with an observation about women by a man, and was followed by insulting comments about women from men. That's where the gender bias if my comments comes from because I am replying to a thread that was gender biased from the start. I believe everyone has the same right to their own preferences and to be picky. I'd say the same to any woman accusing a man of being arrogant for turning them down or for having preferences. Oddly though threads complaining men are picky and unrealistic are rare." Men are allowed to criticise women. That is part of a fair and equal society. Just because some of the comments were guilty of misogyny does not mean that doing the same thing in the other direction is not misandry. Now if the content of the criticism is sexist then it needs to be called out, but your suggestion that the problem was men criticising women is in itsel sexist because it is denying men a right that women have, to criticise women. If someone steals your car and you steal their dog, you are still a thief. Many of the comments on here were sexist and showed a lack of sense or thought on the part of the writer, but simply because it was a man criticising a woman did not make it sexist. Women can be sexist to other women, in fact they often are. Men are often sexist towards other men. Don't be a hypocrite because calling out sexism is important and all your reactionary sexism is doing is giving dickheads an excuse in their own little pea brains to be sexist. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity." Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, , | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect?" I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, , "Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered. Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism." You were doing a lot of the criticising of men earlier, that is not justifiable if you don't like criticism of that nature, just because some men did it first. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible. I have had nothing to do with any of the pathetic ranting and you also don't know what sex I am as this is a couple's profile. So don't bother trying to cast gender stereotypes in favour of your argument. As you can see I have just posted a comment in favour of something you said so whilst I understand that you are somewhat angry and you are sniping at anyone who disagrees with you or supports something someone you don't like has said, but don't bother suggesting that because some people are sexist against women that sexism against men should be condoned. That is hypocrisy of the most boring and pathetic order and does not do anything to stop sexism. All comments like that do are make sexism more rife by giving braindead idiots an excuse to have a dig, Nothing I've said has anything to do with your sex. It's irrelevant. I found it funny to be accused of misandry on a thread absolutely dripping with misogyny. Incidentally, I disagree with your claim of misandry. This entire thread started with an observation about women by a man, and was followed by insulting comments about women from men. That's where the gender bias if my comments comes from because I am replying to a thread that was gender biased from the start. I believe everyone has the same right to their own preferences and to be picky. I'd say the same to any woman accusing a man of being arrogant for turning them down or for having preferences. Oddly though threads complaining men are picky and unrealistic are rare. Men are allowed to criticise women. That is part of a fair and equal society. Just because some of the comments were guilty of misogyny does not mean that doing the same thing in the other direction is not misandry. Now if the content of the criticism is sexist then it needs to be called out, but your suggestion that the problem was men criticising women is in itsel sexist because it is denying men a right that women have, to criticise women. If someone steals your car and you steal their dog, you are still a thief. Many of the comments on here were sexist and showed a lack of sense or thought on the part of the writer, but simply because it was a man criticising a woman did not make it sexist. Women can be sexist to other women, in fact they often are. Men are often sexist towards other men. Don't be a hypocrite because calling out sexism is important and all your reactionary sexism is doing is giving dickheads an excuse in their own little pea brains to be sexist. " Out of interest, which parts of my comments specifically do you think are sexist? This is a long thread and I'm on a 'phone so I can't face scrolling back up to read. I don't think I've been sexist but I've posted a lot here and can't recall everything I've said. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism." well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. You were doing a lot of the criticising of men earlier, that is not justifiable if you don't like criticism of that nature, just because some men did it first. " Er according to you we're all allowed to critise one another. Now my criticism of things men are doing on this thread, and do in many other threads isn't justifiable?  | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, ,
Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered.
Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't."Because this is a forum , a place to debate and in some cases air our frustrations and grievances , we can't all play kiss, avoid bollocks . P.S Do you do realise that men outnumber women on here by about 20 to 1?? | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion." Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion." When you start objecting to abuse of power men have over women in society and every day life I'll consider caring that it bothers you that a few women make the most of the power they have, (which comes only from their right to say who they will and won't shag), in this one tiny niche on the internet. | |||
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" None of you have any right to criticise what anyone else is looking for. You have your preferences, they have theirs. I have no comment to make on the thinly veiled mysandry which makes up much of the rest of your post but the above needs to be discussed. Everyone has the right to criticise other people's thoughts, preferences and opinions. That is the most basic right we all have. We also have, then, to accept that other people will criticise and disagree with our thoughts etc. And we have to be grown up enough to take that criticism in return. To say that we don't have the right to say one thing or another is a dangerous slide towards fascism and fundamentalism. Let's not make that mistake just because someone said something we didn't like reading. Hahaha complaints of misandry on a thread full of misogyny from bitchy, entitled men! Hilarious! And no, nobody has a right to tell other people what they should be looking for or who they should be allowed to meet. A lot of men take it as read that they have a right to be straight (which the obviously do) because they aren't attracted to other men but woe betide a woman who has any sort of preference that might exclude them! The degree of snivelling and malicious whining from men not getting their own way on here is incredible. I have had nothing to do with any of the pathetic ranting and you also don't know what sex I am as this is a couple's profile. So don't bother trying to cast gender stereotypes in favour of your argument. As you can see I have just posted a comment in favour of something you said so whilst I understand that you are somewhat angry and you are sniping at anyone who disagrees with you or supports something someone you don't like has said, but don't bother suggesting that because some people are sexist against women that sexism against men should be condoned. That is hypocrisy of the most boring and pathetic order and does not do anything to stop sexism. All comments like that do are make sexism more rife by giving braindead idiots an excuse to have a dig, Nothing I've said has anything to do with your sex. It's irrelevant. I found it funny to be accused of misandry on a thread absolutely dripping with misogyny. Incidentally, I disagree with your claim of misandry. This entire thread started with an observation about women by a man, and was followed by insulting comments about women from men. That's where the gender bias if my comments comes from because I am replying to a thread that was gender biased from the start. I believe everyone has the same right to their own preferences and to be picky. I'd say the same to any woman accusing a man of being arrogant for turning them down or for having preferences. Oddly though threads complaining men are picky and unrealistic are rare. Men are allowed to criticise women. That is part of a fair and equal society. Just because some of the comments were guilty of misogyny does not mean that doing the same thing in the other direction is not misandry. Now if the content of the criticism is sexist then it needs to be called out, but your suggestion that the problem was men criticising women is in itsel sexist because it is denying men a right that women have, to criticise women. If someone steals your car and you steal their dog, you are still a thief. Many of the comments on here were sexist and showed a lack of sense or thought on the part of the writer, but simply because it was a man criticising a woman did not make it sexist. Women can be sexist to other women, in fact they often are. Men are often sexist towards other men. Don't be a hypocrite because calling out sexism is important and all your reactionary sexism is doing is giving dickheads an excuse in their own little pea brains to be sexist. Out of interest, which parts of my comments specifically do you think are sexist? This is a long thread and I'm on a 'phone so I can't face scrolling back up to read. I don't think I've been sexist but I've posted a lot here and can't recall everything I've said." To take a recent example, the suggestion that a criticism of a woman is unacceptable because it was a man who made it. To suggest that one sex doing something is worse than the other sex doing it is sexist. Some of your rather angry ranting about how men are this that and the next thing was sexist. For exactly the same reasons that the men doing the same thing In reverse was. To criticise an entire sex for the actions of one, two, few or many people who have got that sex in common is sexist. That is like saying women are shit drivers because I got cut up at a roundabout by a car driven by a woman. It is crass and utterly devoid of reason. You were not the only person and probably not the worst, although it is not for me to judge, but in reacting to what you percieved as sexism you did as so many people in your position do and jump on the sexism bandwagon by retaliating with sexist comments which suggest to others that your issue is less with the sexism and more with the fact that the other sex is saying something you don't like about your own sex. Which is blatantly sexist. That your objection to some of the knuckle dragging shite which was posted is justifiable does not excuse you or anyone else from making sexist comments. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic " No it doesn't. Anybody can be unrealistic and look for something they may not get. They just have to accept they may not get it. They can then choose to go without or change their criteria. I prefer to go without meets nobody I want to meet also wants to meet me. That choice is open to everyone. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic No it doesn't. Anybody can be unrealistic and look for something they may not get. They just have to accept they may not get it. They can then choose to go without or change their criteria. I prefer to go without meets nobody I want to meet also wants to meet me. That choice is open to everyone." Of course, but your kidding yourself if you raise the bar to high, and ultimately you will be aiming for the unattainable, making yourself unhappy and unfulfilled | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. You were doing a lot of the criticising of men earlier, that is not justifiable if you don't like criticism of that nature, just because some men did it first. Er according to you we're all allowed to critise one another. Now my criticism of things men are doing on this thread, and do in many other threads isn't justifiable? "Of course we can criticise each other. But if in doing so we are guilty of hypocrisy, double standards, sexism etc. Then we in turn will have to accept criticism of our criticism. I am not telling you that you may or may not say particular things, I am suggesting that you may be wildly hypocritical in reacting as you have to many of the rather moronic things which have been said. You said that no one has the right to criticise, that is wrong. I never said you cannot criticise, I criticised your criticisms for being either wrong or hypocritical or sexist. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. When you start objecting to abuse of power men have over women in society and every day life I'll consider caring that it bothers you that a few women make the most of the power they have, (which comes only from their right to say who they will and won't shag), in this one tiny niche on the internet." it doesn't bother me just interesting debate to see it from a womans perspective who doesn't claim to be exceptional herself. I just find the hypocrisy in it amusing, got to be some give an take in my opinion that's all.. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic No it doesn't. Anybody can be unrealistic and look for something they may not get. They just have to accept they may not get it. They can then choose to go without or change their criteria. I prefer to go without meets nobody I want to meet also wants to meet me. That choice is open to everyone." This is exactly right. My expectations are unrealistic, I am a fucking munter, but I am engaged to be married to a beautiful person who I had no right to expect to want to date me in the first place. Sometimes it is worth holding out. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, ,
Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered.
Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't.
Because this is a forum , a place to debate and in some cases air our frustrations and grievances , we can't all play kiss, avoid bollocks . P.S Do you do realise that men outnumber women on here by about 20 to 1??"Yes, I realise that. Why do you think that is? Read back through this thread and see if you can work out why a lot of women choose other places to meet men! It's not relevant anyway. Everyone has the same right to set their own preferences and ground rules. Men can be just as picky as they want to be, just like women. Everyone has to accept though that they may not get what they want. In my experience, women are more likely to do without if they can't get what they want here than men are. Also IME women are less likely to be bitchy and mean if they don't get what they want. | |||
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" Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic " No it doesn't. It can be as wildly optimistic as you want it to be. But you can be criticised by others for wanting something they think is beyond you, however to criticise someone for going above what you consider to be their league would be pretty bloody nasty. | |||
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" Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you." Or you just ignore them and crack on doing exactly what you wish to because their opinion doesn't matter to you and what you do doesn't affect them one iota... | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, ,
Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered.
Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't.
Because this is a forum , a place to debate and in some cases air our frustrations and grievances , we can't all play kiss, avoid bollocks . P.S Do you do realise that men outnumber women on here by about 20 to 1??
Yes, I realise that. Why do you think that is? Read back through this thread and see if you can work out why a lot of women choose other places to meet men!
It's not relevant anyway. Everyone has the same right to set their own preferences and ground rules. Men can be just as picky as they want to be, just like women. Everyone has to accept though that they may not get what they want.
In my experience, women are more likely to do without if they can't get what they want here than men are. Also IME women are less likely to be bitchy and mean if they don't get what they want."Of course it is relevant, if women outnumbered men 20 to 1 then the forums would be completely different and if you think women are less bitchy than men the you are deluded | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, ,
Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered.
Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't.
Because this is a forum , a place to debate and in some cases air our frustrations and grievances , we can't all play kiss, avoid bollocks . P.S Do you do realise that men outnumber women on here by about 20 to 1??
Yes, I realise that. Why do you think that is? Read back through this thread and see if you can work out why a lot of women choose other places to meet men!
It's not relevant anyway. Everyone has the same right to set their own preferences and ground rules. Men can be just as picky as they want to be, just like women. Everyone has to accept though that they may not get what they want.
In my experience, women are more likely to do without if they can't get what they want here than men are. Also IME women are less likely to be bitchy and mean if they don't get what they want."pfft trying saying no as a single male sometimes there is an expectation for single males to play with anybody and I am fully aware we are the lowest of the low in this lifestyle. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic No it doesn't. Anybody can be unrealistic and look for something they may not get. They just have to accept they may not get it. They can then choose to go without or change their criteria. I prefer to go without meets nobody I want to meet also wants to meet me. That choice is open to everyone. This is exactly right. My expectations are unrealistic, I am a fucking munter, but I am engaged to be married to a beautiful person who I had no right to expect to want to date me in the first place. Sometimes it is worth holding out." It is. It works for me too. And it really irritates me when women are insulted and called arrogant and princesses for doing that. I'm average. I get plenty of really hot guys wanting to meet me. Some because they're desperate and think I'll be easy, no doubt, but some because something about me is more important to them than physical beauty. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Yes, and on many many other threads men are being similarly criticised. Just because this thread is one sided (to an extent) does not mean that it is all one sided. Women are criticised for a variety of things which are not justifiable and men are criticised for a variety of other things which are not justifiable. This site is full of sexist pricks, male and female. Of course women can be picky. Everyone can be. The op was not about them being picky, it was about them being, in the eyes of the OP arrogant and haughty. Agree or disagree all you want, on this i think we are close to agreement, but you cannot sit and spit your dummy and claim that it is all a horrid conspiracy against women. That fails entirely to show any perspective whatsoever. These forums are full of keyboard warrior tossers. What do you expect? I have perspective although it is slanted by by being female and having female experiences on this site. I can see things from a male point of view, but I can't know what it's like to experience them as a man. The same goes for men not being able to know what being female is like, even if they can understand a point of view. This is one of the subjects where women are criticised and men tend not to be. The OP was reasonable, questioning what exceptional means. A lot of the following posts were not reasonable. They were made by men who don't understand what exceptional means, who probably feel insecure, feel excluded, and are bitter and angry about it. I equally object to many of the ways men are singled out for criticism. well not me because I consider myself to be bordering on an exceptional male now. I just like to challenge the idea of double standards as especially women on this site try to kind of abuse the power they have over some men to a degree in my opinion. Exactly, some women who look for and in some cases demand 'exceptional' are fooling themselves . We all have a right to be picky but it has to be realistic No it doesn't. Anybody can be unrealistic and look for something they may not get. They just have to accept they may not get it. They can then choose to go without or change their criteria. I prefer to go without meets nobody I want to meet also wants to meet me. That choice is open to everyone. This is exactly right. My expectations are unrealistic, I am a fucking munter, but I am engaged to be married to a beautiful person who I had no right to expect to want to date me in the first place. Sometimes it is worth holding out. It is. It works for me too. And it really irritates me when women are insulted and called arrogant and princesses for doing that. I'm average. I get plenty of really hot guys wanting to meet me. Some because they're desperate and think I'll be easy, no doubt, but some because something about me is more important to them than physical beauty." Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, ,
Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered.
Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't.
Because this is a forum , a place to debate and in some cases air our frustrations and grievances , we can't all play kiss, avoid bollocks . P.S Do you do realise that men outnumber women on here by about 20 to 1??
Yes, I realise that. Why do you think that is? Read back through this thread and see if you can work out why a lot of women choose other places to meet men!
It's not relevant anyway. Everyone has the same right to set their own preferences and ground rules. Men can be just as picky as they want to be, just like women. Everyone has to accept though that they may not get what they want.
In my experience, women are more likely to do without if they can't get what they want here than men are. Also IME women are less likely to be bitchy and mean if they don't get what they want. pfft trying saying no as a single male sometimes there is an expectation for single males to play with anybody and I am fully aware we are the lowest of the low in this lifestyle."Rubbish. I often message men first. I've been turned down a lot. I don't expect anything of anybody here and being turned down doesn't bother me. Yes, it can be a bit disappointing but I don't take it personally and I'd never dream of reacting like some of the guys I've declined do. There may be some that expect everyone to want them and that everyone they ask will meet them but there are *some* men like that too, as well as *some* women and couples. | |||
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" You aren't though. You're stuck in the idea that exceptional means good looking with a great body. It may be all about aestetics to you but not everybody is the same. This is important and is quite right. The meaning of exceptional differs from person to person and those who have made up meanings which they don't like generally have done so in a manner to satisfy their own insecurities and reassure themselves that those people are worse than they are. Both men and women are guilty of this so the sexist ramblings of the antagonists in this thread of both sexes is irrelevant. Exceptional is basically useless apart from to signal that the author thinks the person they are willing to accept is in the vast minority amongst the audience they are writing to. Anything else added to that meaning seems generally to have been added by the paranoia of the reader. Whatever sex they are. Exactly. It's the same as quality over quantity. It means they're looking for a few great meets. There's nothing wrong with that. The sexism comes in because it's only women who are criticised and insulted for it. The OP itself is specifically about women. Everyone has the right to be "picky", male or female. It is not ONLY women who are criticised. Men are subjected to constant criticism on this and a wide range of different topics. You may choose to overlook this but that is a reflection on your personal bias as opposed to reality. Everyone has a right to be picky. Yes. But everyone has a right to criticise everyone else, and to be criticised in turn. You do not ban or prevent people from speaking. You argue with them if you disagree. Otherwise we start to get into really really bad territory with banning free speech. That is not somewhere we want to go. Even if it does suit you. On this thread as well as many others, only women are being criticised for being picky. I don't recall a thread criticising men for turning people down or for saying quality over quantity. Why don't you start a thread covering that topic, ,
Because it doesn't bother me. Men can look for whatever they want on here. If they're not interested in me, even if they turn me down, I'm not a bit bothered.
Why some men care so much what some women/couples are looking for confounds me. It's better to spend the energy looking for people looking for you than bitching about the ones who aren't.
Because this is a forum , a place to debate and in some cases air our frustrations and grievances , we can't all play kiss, avoid bollocks . P.S Do you do realise that men outnumber women on here by about 20 to 1??
Yes, I realise that. Why do you think that is? Read back through this thread and see if you can work out why a lot of women choose other places to meet men!
It's not relevant anyway. Everyone has the same right to set their own preferences and ground rules. Men can be just as picky as they want to be, just like women. Everyone has to accept though that they may not get what they want.
In my experience, women are more likely to do without if they can't get what they want here than men are. Also IME women are less likely to be bitchy and mean if they don't get what they want. pfft trying saying no as a single male sometimes there is an expectation for single males to play with anybody and I am fully aware we are the lowest of the low in this lifestyle.
Rubbish.
I often message men first. I've been turned down a lot. I don't expect anything of anybody here and being turned down doesn't bother me.
Yes, it can be a bit disappointing but I don't take it personally and I'd never dream of reacting like some of the guys I've declined do.
There may be some that expect everyone to want them and that everyone they ask will meet them but there are *some* men like that too, as well as *some* women and couples."well see in my experience it's not rubbish it has caused me a few problems being fussy in this lifestyle mostly due to inflated egos of delusional women unfortunately. | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon." Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power. | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power." see your contradicting yourself now you just said before men are worse than women. The abuse of power is not down to just rejection either. I completely understand how it works there is just a lot of hypocrisy in it that's all. I think this site has a lot to answer for | |||
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"What on earth is one of those? I've seen many a lady need one. Not sure what baffles me more The request or the guy reading it thinking 'yes I'm exceptional I must message her' It's usually a warning sign that the lady of the couple is not into it. She sets the standard so high that no normal male can attain it. I've noticed this often when I'm rejected for sex after a social meet. I always think if she isn't willing to shag me. God help the next guy
That last paragraph pretty much sums up your ego then!!!!! She met you and she decided she didn't want to shag you ....and you think the problem is hers??? Lol!!!! I think the problem is most definately yours !!!! You are the one left with the redundant stiffy! !!))))
Maybe....just maybe if she isn't willing to shag you...it's because she doesn't fancy you? Doesn't like you? Thinks you are a dick? ???? "Well I kept in contact with the husband and after she rejected 4 more guys. He had to spend $500 on a male sex worker. I told him , she could have had me for glass of wine.. So it was still her loss... | |||
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"Of course it is relevant, if women outnumbered men 20 to 1 then the forums would be completely different and if you think women are less bitchy than men the you are deluded " It's the behaviour of some of the men that drives some women away! And no, it's not relevant. Men and women both have the same right to set preferences and go without if nobody appeals to them. (Some) men moan that women have all the power here but it's the men that give it to them. If guys held out for exceptional women more often and were as willing to go without meets things would also be different. | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power." And from your experience what you are saying makes sense. However it has been laid bare from a number of sources that the opposite to your experience is equally true. Therefore anyone who states their experience is perfectly justified in doing so, but when told repeatedly of other perspectives which compliment as well as challenge their statement, to continue to ignore those and not change what you portray suggests you have a desire to say one is superior to the other. Your experience is now that there are equal problems in both direction because experience is not just borne of your own actions and happenings to you, but also what others tell you of their experiences. By my, and my partner's experience, women are much harder to get on with than guys on here, but that does not mean that women are worse. That means that we have experienced more troubles with women than men. I would never say that women are harder to deal with than men because I have it on good authority that men are also bloody hard to deal with. A lot of the posters here do not seem willing to learn from what people tell them and seem determined to push their own agenda however subtly. | |||
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"Of course it is relevant, if women outnumbered men 20 to 1 then the forums would be completely different and if you think women are less bitchy than men the you are deluded It's the behaviour of some of the men that drives some women away! And no, it's not relevant. Men and women both have the same right to set preferences and go without if nobody appeals to them. (Some) men moan that women have all the power here but it's the men that give it to them. If guys held out for exceptional women more often and were as willing to go without meets things would also be different." And vice versa. Men and women need to be different. The world would simply not work if they weren't. Why should men go without meets. On the whole, the male desire for sex is different to the female one. As a rule, men are internally driven to have as much sex as they can, whereas women are driven to be as picky as they can be to ensure the best mate and strongest offspring. Therefore we will always be pissed off with each other as one lot are too easy and one lot are too frigid. Thus we need to just grow up and vive la difference! | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power. see your contradicting yourself now you just said before men are worse than women. The abuse of power is not down to just rejection either. I completely understand how it works there is just a lot of hypocrisy in it that's all. I think this site has a lot to answer for "I said men are worse than women in what sense? I'm replying to lots of people on a 'phone and can't easily scroll back. Men are worse in some ways. Women are worse in some ways. Overall both are as bad as each other. Doesthat help clarify. If I said men are worse than women, I was referring to a specific aspect, not overall. I don't think this site has anything to answer for. Any power women have here is because men allow it. There's no hypocrisy. Men can choose to hold out for exceptional too if they want to, but most are less willing to go without. A lot of the moaning about princesses is from men being butt hurt over rejection. To a lot of men a woman becomes arrogant and stuck up the second she says no. | |||
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"As far as I can see there are no exceptional people on here. " Did you miss our earlier post or something? | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power. see your contradicting yourself now you just said before men are worse than women. The abuse of power is not down to just rejection either. I completely understand how it works there is just a lot of hypocrisy in it that's all. I think this site has a lot to answer for
I said men are worse than women in what sense? I'm replying to lots of people on a 'phone and can't easily scroll back.
Men are worse in some ways. Women are worse in some ways. Overall both are as bad as each other. Doesthat help clarify. If I said men are worse than women, I was referring to a specific aspect, not overall.
I don't think this site has anything to answer for. Any power women have here is because men allow it.
There's no hypocrisy. Men can choose to hold out for exceptional too if they want to, but most are less willing to go without.
A lot of the moaning about princesses is from men being butt hurt over rejection. To a lot of men a woman becomes arrogant and stuck up the second she says no."you say men are more bitchy about being rejected than women. The hypocrisy in my opinion is demanding something a lot people wouldn't consider that they deserve that is all but it is all relative I guess. | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power. see your contradicting yourself now you just said before men are worse than women. The abuse of power is not down to just rejection either. I completely understand how it works there is just a lot of hypocrisy in it that's all. I think this site has a lot to answer for
I said men are worse than women in what sense? I'm replying to lots of people on a 'phone and can't easily scroll back.
Men are worse in some ways. Women are worse in some ways. Overall both are as bad as each other. Doesthat help clarify. If I said men are worse than women, I was referring to a specific aspect, not overall.
I don't think this site has anything to answer for. Any power women have here is because men allow it.
There's no hypocrisy. Men can choose to hold out for exceptional too if they want to, but most are less willing to go without.
A lot of the moaning about princesses is from men being butt hurt over rejection. To a lot of men a woman becomes arrogant and stuck up the second she says no."A lot but not all , I find that most 'exceptional ' women on here (based on looks and personally) don't need to act like princesses, they have the confidence not to. personally as soon as I see 'looking for exceptional' on a profile I simply ask them what makes them exceptional? In most cases they can not answer, | |||
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"I'm exceptional. But I'm taken. Unless you're a bi female and wish to meet Miss Myth also and she approves of you Tum ti tum ti tum. Waiting on all these replys. "Chuckles | |||
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"Trust me, if you have ever turned down some women you experience what self richeous fury really means. Both sexes are as bad as each other. Don't be deluded to think that just because you only see it in one direction that everything is like that. People are real shits to each other. A person's sex has nothing to do with it until you can use it as a weapon. Yes, some women are bitches and some men are absolute wankers. I realise this. However, casting all women who want meets who are exceptional (to them, by their own standards) as arrogant princesses is unjust. I want exceptional. I'm not a princess. I've never been rude to anyone who has turned me down (and I've had lots of rejections and ignored messages). I've had a lot of really vile responses from some of the men I've declined to meet. It's indeed true that both sexes are as bad as each other. I don't, wouldn't, deny that. I think the number of women who actually use sex as a weapon or abuse their "power" (which is given to them by the men!) on here is quite low. I also think a lot of guys get hurt feelings from being turned down and see that as women "abusing" their "power". Some guys need to realise everyone has a right to say no thanks and that in itself is not abuse of any power. see your contradicting yourself now you just said before men are worse than women. The abuse of power is not down to just rejection either. I completely understand how it works there is just a lot of hypocrisy in it that's all. I think this site has a lot to answer for
I said men are worse than women in what sense? I'm replying to lots of people on a 'phone and can't easily scroll back.
Men are worse in some ways. Women are worse in some ways. Overall both are as bad as each other. Doesthat help clarify. If I said men are worse than women, I was referring to a specific aspect, not overall.
I don't think this site has anything to answer for. Any power women have here is because men allow it.
There's no hypocrisy. Men can choose to hold out for exceptional too if they want to, but most are less willing to go without.
A lot of the moaning about princesses is from men being butt hurt over rejection. To a lot of men a woman becomes arrogant and stuck up the second she says no.
A lot but not all , I find that most 'exceptional ' women on here (based on looks and personally) don't need to act like princesses, they have the confidence not to. personally as soon as I see 'looking for exceptional' on a profile I simply ask them what makes them exceptional? In most cases they can not answer, "I'm exceptional in several ways. I'm average looking and fat but that doesn't mean I can't be exceptional in other ways. Nor does it mean I can't or shouldn't hold out for people I find exceptional. Why does someone have to be exceptional or know how they are exceptional to be permitted to want to meet people they find exceptional? What they're looking for may or may not be unrealistic but there's no reason at all they can't look. Some guys think if these women weren't looking for something the men don't believe the women will get, they would get more meets because the women would meet them instead. They wouldn't because the women still wouldn't fancy them. That's why they care so much that they believe some women are unrealistic. Otherwise they wouldn't care. They don't realise that if a woman doesn't fancy someone, she's unlikely to meet them just because she couldn't find anyone better. I meet who I want to meet, not the best that happens to be available at the time. | |||
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"you say men are more bitchy about being rejected than women. The hypocrisy in my opinion is demanding something a lot people wouldn't consider that they deserve that is all but it is all relative I guess." Some women may send a bitchy reply but they don't start numerous threads to bitch about uppity men. As for demanding something *you* don't think they deserve, what you think is only relevant to whether you want to meet them or not. It's not up to you to assess what anyone else "deserves", except in relation to whether they "deserve" you. It's pretty arrogant for you to think you can decide what other people deserve. | |||
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