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"I don't know any Muslim swingers so I can't comment on that. My view of Ramadan is that anyone who can do it especially at this time of year has my respect. " | |||
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"I don't know any Muslim swingers so I can't comment on that. My view of Ramadan is that anyone who can do it especially at this time of year has my respect.
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !!" If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots. | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !! If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots." Unfortunatly you'll find that the anti-religious people are the new zealots, especially on here | |||
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Few fundamentals, whatever you do, you do to better yourself. The idea is actually not to spend to much money on food, save and give to those that are less fortunate. Charity is key, ofcourse there's a few more things to consider. Happy to talk if anyone wants to inbox us xx | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !! If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots." This post is gold. So first you ask "what are nonuslim swingers views on ramadan" They give thier view then you say "If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all" So why ask thier view? Then a bit if a meandering presumptive rant ending in "Fukin ignorant idiots" What happened to if youve got nothing good to say? | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !! If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots." What a strange way to react, you asked for peoples opinion on ramadam and then when you get a negative response you tell them to not speak a word about it. 
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !!" Stupidity is the need to ridicule for something you don't understand. Grow up!!!! | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !! If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots. What a strange way to react, you asked for peoples opinion on ramadam and then when you get a negative response you tell them to not speak a word about it.
You asked for there opinion and thats what you got."Opinions and insults aren't the same thing. | |||
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" Opinions and insults aren't the same thing. " I'm 100% with this. In a world where it's often said that Muslims don't speak up against the ills of the world, I do think non Muslims also have a duty to be balanced. Having worked with many, many Muslims in four war zones I can honestly say I have been treated with nothing but kindness and respect. | |||
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"The general consensus of the Muslims at work is "thank goodness it's not too hot at the moment" The chap on my team is getting a bit tired now though. Can I ask a question about fasting? I know there are exceptions for young children, serious ill and elderly peopke where necessary. But what about Muslims in parts of Canada or Scandinavia where it never properly gets dark this time if year? When do they eat? Nita" I’m simplifying this a bit but the instruction is if fasting is detrimental to your health then don’t do it. You can make up for it by fasting later when you are in a situation to do so. If you cannot make up for it by fasting later due to ill health and are financially able to do so, then make up for it by feeding a poor person for the number of days of fasting you’ve missed. | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !! If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots." Everyones allowed opinions in the free world, however your response showed a scary, VERY aggressive instant hostility...didn't offer a 'peaceful' explanation in any sense!!! | |||
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" Can I ask a question about fasting? I know there are exceptions for young children, serious ill and elderly peopke where necessary. But what about Muslims in parts of Canada or Scandinavia where it never properly gets dark this time if year? When do they eat? Nita" I asked a Muslim that very question. The answer was that they would follow the time zone of Mecca in terms of prayer times and fasting. | |||
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"First of all. Muslim women. Phwoooooor. Love that light brown skin and dark eyes. Mmmmmmm Secondly. I cannot stand the smell of curry/spicy food so with a few Muslim neighbours its great to have a few hours off the smell. "Huh??????
Islam is a religion,not a race. People from many races and cultures follow the path of Islam.
Not just those with light brown skin and dark eyes. People from EVERY part of the world.
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"I don't know any Muslim swingers so I can't comment on that. My view of Ramadan is that anyone who can do it especially at this time of year has my respect. "This! | |||
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"I happen to think it's as silly as Lent. Still, each to their own, it doesn't hurt me. But, asked my opinion - that's it." You not think it's good for a human to deny themselves now and again? | |||
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"I happen to think it's as silly as Lent. Still, each to their own, it doesn't hurt me. But, asked my opinion - that's it. You not think it's good for a human to deny themselves now and again?" Possibly. But not because someone or something else tells them to. Seems to lose its meaning after that. | |||
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"I happen to think it's as silly as Lent. Still, each to their own, it doesn't hurt me. But, asked my opinion - that's it. You not think it's good for a human to deny themselves now amnd again?" no.how is starving yourself for the sake of religion a good thing!!!! | |||
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"I happen to think it's as silly as Lent. Still, each to their own, it doesn't hurt me. But, asked my opinion - that's it. You not think it's good for a human to deny themselves now amnd again?no.how is starving yourself for the sake of religion a good thing!!!!" Your wording shows how close minded you are. Eating every day is hardly starving. | |||
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"The general consensus of the Muslims at work is "thank goodness it's not too hot at the moment" The chap on my team is getting a bit tired now though. Can I ask a question about fasting? I know there are exceptions for young children, serious ill and elderly peopke where necessary. But what about Muslims in parts of Canada or Scandinavia where it never properly gets dark this time if year? When do they eat? Nita" I suppose the sensible thing would be to go by the sunrise sunset time of say mecca | |||
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"I happen to think it's as silly as Lent. Still, each to their own, it doesn't hurt me. But, asked my opinion - that's it. You not think it's good for a human to deny themselves now and again?" Not if that denial results in physical inpairment. You get a lot saying they feel tired etc. Seems a pointless risk. | |||
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"I happen to think it's as silly as Lent. Still, each to their own, it doesn't hurt me. But, asked my opinion - that's it. You not think it's good for a human to deny themselves now and again? Not if that denial results in physical inpairment. You get a lot saying they feel tired etc. Seems a pointless risk." Totally agree, and as it has been said before you arent allow to do it if it puts your health at risk. You get tired for many reasons though... ppl mention they are tired but still go on a night out anyway... | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging?" I'm curious about this too, I work with a devout Muslim who is fasting at the moment. And when I showed him this site he said it's totally sinful and the work of evil?? | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging?" You have a point. Muslim swinger is a oxymoron. Yet at the same time Muslims are human being before and after all, so even though they would like to follow certain rules, they are subjected to basic human drives as well. | |||
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"Hows Ramadan going for the muslim swingers ? What are non-muslims swingers views of Ramadan ?" My daugher sneaks food to school for her friend I don't think it should be forced on people, I feel sorry for the kids it must be hard at lunch watching everybody else eating when your hungry | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? I'm curious about this too, I work with a devout Muslim who is fasting at the moment. And when I showed him this site he said it's totally sinful and the work of evil??" Well from a religious point of view yes it is, I mean any deeply religious people, Christian, Jewish or Muslim would have exactly the same answer as it is forbidden by their religion. Yet they are still humans and subject to the same drives as you. | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? You have a point. Muslim swinger is a oxymoron. Yet at the same time Muslims are human being before and after all, so even though they would like to follow certain rules, they are subjected to basic human drives as well. " I agree, however to see and call yourself a Muslim involves religious beliefs and a main test of these beliefs is to NOT act on said 'basic human driver's if they are deemed sinful. | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging?" Because a lot of people, of any religion, just follow the parts that suit them | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? You have a point. Muslim swinger is a oxymoron. Yet at the same time Muslims are human being before and after all, so even though they would like to follow certain rules, they are subjected to basic human drives as well. I agree, however to see and call yourself a Muslim involves religious beliefs and a main test of these beliefs is to NOT act on said 'basic human driver's if they are deemed sinful." Totally agree yet it is very difficult to do so... and it doesn't only apply to religions. For instance work, even if people have deep principles they don't necessarily follow them. | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging?" That's ok having a discussion about something does not make you bigoted
The simple answer is we don't that's the thing about us Muslim's we are not all made from one template. We don’t all see the world through the same eyes as some would have you believe; I choose to see my god as a forgiving merciful one. I by no means am a perfect Muslim, but I’d like to think I’m a good human with good intentions, I think that is what matters to god in the end.
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? Because a lot of people, of any religion, just follow the parts that suit them " | |||
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"We love Ramadan, we live in a Muslim area of Preston and we get lots of lovely food off our neighbours lol Our only gripe is young kids running up and down the street late/early on." I went to RK Sweets in Preston for a takeaway with a fb on Friday. I don't think I've ever had better Asian food. Almost as good as our "desert" | |||
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"We love Ramadan, we live in a Muslim area of Preston and we get lots of lovely food off our neighbours lol Our only gripe is young kids running up and down the street late/early on. I went to RK Sweets in Preston for a takeaway with a fb on Friday. I don't think I've ever had better Asian food. Almost as good as our "desert" "I love love love RK Sweets. Their veggie cuisine is amazing. I always order from them for work do's. | |||
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"10 benefits to the human body during fasting scientifically proven. " There are also benefits to having the humility to acknowledge something more important than yourself. | |||
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"I'm a Catholic and eat meat on Fridays! Many people aren't as devout as others." Tell me about it! I was at working at a place once, where I was chatting with a couple of Muslim women.One from Turkey, and the other from an African nation. Nigeria or Ghana. I can't remember which* Anyway, the conversation goes like this: Woman 1) Ramadan... Oh yeah... I don't mind giving up the food. Woman 2 nods Cuts down on the food bill, I suppose... Woman 1 nods Woman 2 (Whispers) But I can't have me bacon butty. And I do like my bacon butty... Me Spluttering out tea. 
Woman 1
(Giggles and whispers)
Me too. Can't wait to get back to it!
Me
90 seconds later....
Me
How can you do that! You're Muslim!
They did look a bit embarrassed though.
As did an old boss of mine who was Muslim when he was screaming about the joys of a bacon butty.
And I have family friends who are Muslim who either
Smoke like a chimney
Drink like a fish
Would even bet on two drops of water rolling down a window pane
Or all of the above!
It really tells me one thing. We all have failings or we wouldn't be human.
I do express initial shock at stuff like that then I just laugh because... Well I appreciate their honesty and their acceptance that we humans are not perfect.
We were never meant to be perfect. We just ARE. Why do we always have to BE?
*To all those Nigerian and Ghanaian fabsters out there who think that I should know the difference between the two countries. You're right. I probably should. Please forgive me!
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"I'm a Catholic and eat meat on Fridays! Many people aren't as devout as others. Tell me about it! I was at working at a place once, where I was chatting with a couple of Muslim women.One from Turkey, and the other from an African nation. Nigeria or Ghana. I can't remember which* Anyway, the conversation goes like this: Woman 1) Ramadan... Oh yeah... I don't mind giving up the food. Woman 2 nods Cuts down on the food bill, I suppose... Woman 1 nods Woman 2 (Whispers) But I can't have me bacon butty. And I do like my bacon butty... Me Spluttering out tea.
Woman 1
(Giggles and whispers)
Me too. Can't wait to get back to it!
Me
90 seconds later....
Me
How can you do that! You're Muslim!
They did look a bit embarrassed though.
As did an old boss of mine who was Muslim when he was screaming about the joys of a bacon butty.
And I have family friends who are Muslim who either
Smoke like a chimney
Drink like a fish
Would even bet on two drops of water rolling down a window pane
Or all of the above!
It really tells me one thing. We all have failings or we wouldn't be human.
I do express initial shock at stuff like that then I just laugh because... Well I appreciate their honesty and their acceptance that we humans are not perfect.
We were never meant to be perfect. We just ARE. Why do we always have to BE?
*To all those Nigerian and Ghanaian fabsters out there who think that I should know the difference between the two countries. You're right. I probably should. Please forgive me!
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"The general consensus of the Muslims at work is "thank goodness it's not too hot at the moment" The chap on my team is getting a bit tired now though. Can I ask a question about fasting? I know there are exceptions for young children, serious ill and elderly peopke where necessary. But what about Muslims in parts of Canada or Scandinavia where it never properly gets dark this time if year? When do they eat? Nita I suppose the sensible thing would be to go by the sunrise sunset time of say mecca " You fast for the hours of day light. Ive got a cousin in Denmark who'll fast for 21 hours on the longest day of Ramadan this year. | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? Because a lot of people, of any religion, just follow the parts that suit them " That's true! Everyone is different. I once met an athiest who wasn't a pompous bore. | |||
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"Fasting's the easy part. Its the lack of sleep that getting to me." Come snuggle with me then | |||
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"I don't know any Muslim swingers so I can't comment on that. My view of Ramadan is that anyone who can do it especially at this time of year has my respect. "
My boss is a Muslim....observing Ramadan. Didn't stop him organising food/drinks for all the staff on Thusday for the England game....and having the match on in the office......top man! | |||
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"I don't know any Muslim swingers so I can't comment on that. My view of Ramadan is that anyone who can do it especially at this time of year has my respect.
My boss is a Muslim....observing Ramadan. Didn't stop him organising food/drinks for all the staff on Thusday for the England game....and having the match on in the office......top man!"All the Muslims I know don't make a song and dance about Ramadan and are quite happy to chat about it. Even the guy I catch having a crafty smoke in his car | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. " Are you trolling just for trolling's sake?  | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. " . How do you "know" there isn't a God? | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? Because a lot of people, of any religion, just follow the parts that suit them That's true! Everyone is different. I once met an athiest who wasn't a pompous bore." | |||
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"So far so good. 10 days done 20 more to go. Thank god I'm near the equator at this time. " | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. " in a way i agree i dont believe i think religion was made up to instill fear into people and keep them in line i also think a lot of abuse is done in the name of religion however i would never call people who dont agree with me fools nor do i think all heads of religion are abusers some people just use religion to hide the actions behind | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?"Scientifically there's more proof there isn't than there is... | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. in a way i agree i dont believe i think religion was made up to instill fear into people and keep them in line i also think a lot of abuse is done in the name of religion however i would never call people who dont agree with me fools nor do i think all heads of religion are abusers some people just use religion to hide the actions behind " Yes! Put someone or something in a position of power and that position will be abused. Both sadly are human nature but I also think religion can be a huge force for good and that's human nature too. | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
Scientifically there's more proof there isn't than there is..."Ah! Science. | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. Religion isnt the problem, its people interpretation of religion, ive said that many a time, if someone is on this site for sex or whatever its for that, bringing religion into it, is a little odd in my opinion. in a way i agree i dont believe i think religion was made up to instill fear into people and keep them in line i also think a lot of abuse is done in the name of religion however i would never call people who dont agree with me fools nor do i think all heads of religion are abusers some people just use religion to hide the actions behind " | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?"The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres? | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
Scientifically there's more proof there isn't than there is..."Incorrect. Scientifically, there is no proof either way. To invoke science in a matter of belief is a non sequitur in any event. | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. in a way i agree i dont believe i think religion was made up to instill fear into people and keep them in line i also think a lot of abuse is done in the name of religion however i would never call people who dont agree with me fools nor do i think all heads of religion are abusers some people just use religion to hide the actions behind Yes! Put someone or something in a position of power and that position will be abused. Both sadly are human nature but I also think religion can be a huge force for good and that's human nature too." i have no problem with religion i think it can give great comfort to people in times of need and if it helps great what i dont like are people who exploit people in these times of need faith healers should be banned god can not cure you by some guy touching your head, thats not an opinion thats fact sometimes it can have a placibo effect but if you have something like cancer god cant heel you yet some make million out of doing this and its wrong | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. " bet your a right joy at Christmas and Easter times..
how about that old adage of live and let live..?
got friends who are fasting etc and big respect for anyone doing that at this time..
they are not hurting anyone, same as the people i saw going to the methodist chapel this morning..
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. bet your a right joy at Christmas and Easter otimes..
how about that old adage of live and let live..?
got friends who are fasting etc and big respect for anyone doing that at this time..
they are not hurting anyone, same as the people i saw going to the methodist chapel this morning..
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
Scientifically there's more proof there isn't than there is...
Incorrect. Scientifically, there is no proof either way.
To invoke science in a matter of belief is a non sequitur in any event."You might want to run that by Stephen Hawking's, or even Google his findings on scientifically proving there isn't...I'd wager he's a little brighter than you and I... | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. " That’s perfectly fine you are entitled to your opinion. Religions aren’t a good or bad force people are. It’s not just about not eating or drinking, you also have to reframe from fighting, cursing, lying insulting other’s , backbiting, talking to others harshly etc. It’s also about giving to charity, being kinder to other people and so on. It’s about over the course of your life striving to make yourself a better human being, getting rid of your bad habits over time etc. I’m sure you’ve heard the story about an old man telling his grandson “my son, there is a battle between two wolves inside us all.” “One is Evil. It is anger, jealousy, greed, resentment, inferiority, lies and ego. The other is good. It is joy peace, love hope, humility, kindness empathy and truth.” The boy thinks about it, and then asks “Grandfather, which wolf wins?” The old man quietly replies “The one you feed” Weather you believe in a god or not surly trying to become a better human is a good thing. | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. bet your a right joy at Christmas and Easter times..
how about that old adage of live and let live..?
got friends who are fasting etc and big respect for anyone doing that at this time..
they are not hurting anyone, same as the people i saw going to the methodist chapel this morning..
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Exactly.
Live and let live.
This is coming from someone whose parent is an atheist.
If people want to enhance and celebrate their faith and spirituality, let them.
Don't be a Debbie downer by such comments.
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. bet your a right joy at Christmas and Easter otimes..
how about that old adage of live and let live..?
got friends who are fasting etc and big respect for anyone doing that at this time..
they are not hurting anyone, same as the people i saw going to the methodist chapel this morning..
I manage to ignore Easter but you're right about Christmas. I'm awful at Christmas. Everything becomes expensive. "being an old git i don't like the way Christmas has become so focused on consumerism but i let folks get on with it.. whatever gets you through your night etc.. | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
Ok. Do you think that belief or otherwise in God might depend on your definition of it?"No. | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
Ok. Do you think that belief or otherwise in God might depend on your definition of it?
No.
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
im very much in the if i cant see it, hear it, touch it or smell it it dont exist camp
thats just me"You can't do any of those things with emotions but they exist | |||
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"There isn't a god. So Ramadan, like all other religious festivals, is just nonsense. I don't disrespect people who believe in their false gods. Each to there own. But I do consider them to be blinkered fools. The monsters that run religions though. They are just abusers. . How do you "know" there isn't a God?
The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
im very much in the if i cant see it, hear it, touch it or smell it it dont exist camp
thats just me
You can't do any of those things with emotions but they exist "Oh well that's that then. There must be a god! | |||
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The same way I know that badgers don't design shopping centres?
im very much in the if i cant see it, hear it, touch it or smell it it dont exist camp
thats just me
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves " i have to agree i remember after my son died the local vicar came to my home, i was actually quite insulted by some of the things he said i guess some would seek comfort by this i however didnt if thats your god you can keep him | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves " What was the religious cause of world war two? | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it "The extermination of 6 million Jews is clearly a laughing matter. | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !! If you got nothing good to say don't say anything at all. Dont talk about anyone's religious, no matter if its Islam, Christianity, Hinduism.....when your just going to criticise something you dont understand. You do not know anything about Islam or Ramadan so don't speak a word about it. You're a mature couple so you should be setting an example, and for goodness sake have some respect !. Fukin ignorant idiots. What a strange way to react, you asked for peoples opinion on ramadam and then when you get a negative response you tell them to not speak a word about it.
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
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Pot and Kettle"???? How does that even apply ??? | |||
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The extermination of 6 million Jews is clearly a laughing matter."seriously stop looking for things that arent there to pick on nobody is laughing at anybody dying so stop twisting things its ridiculous | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
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Pot and Kettle
???? How does that even apply ???"Because you're either so racist you think that Jews caused WW2 or you're so dumb you don't realise that anti-semitism isn't a religion. Either way you need the 'doh' moment. | |||
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"Religion breeds hate in my opinion!..Religious people are the most judgmental people. " That sounds like a judgement to me... | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
...wonder if some people have audible 'doh' moments...
Pot and Kettle
???? How does that even apply ???
Because you're either so racist you think that Jews caused WW2 or you're so dumb you don't realise that anti-semitism isn't a religion. Either way you need the 'doh' moment. "i dont think anybody thinks jewish people started WW2 but hitlers hatred towards them was a big factor in starting the war i shall refrain from adding a emoticon at the end incase anybody thinks its aimed and people dieing | |||
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"Religion breeds hate in my opinion!..Religious people are the most judgmental people. That sounds like a judgement to me... " Yes my judgement on Religion of all kinds!. Brainwashed! | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
...wonder if some people have audible 'doh' moments...
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???? How does that even apply ???
Because you're either so racist you think that Jews caused WW2 or you're so dumb you don't realise that anti-semitism isn't a religion. Either way you need the 'doh' moment.
i dont think anybody thinks jewish people started WW2 but hitlers hatred towards them was a big factor in starting the war
i shall refrain from adding a emoticon at the end incase anybody thinks its aimed and people dieing "Do you not understand that for your point to be valid, the aggressor of WW2 would have to have had a religious cause? Are you seriously suggesting Hitler was a pious man? Again, anti-semitism isn't a religion. | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
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???? How does that even apply ???
Because you're either so racist you think that Jews caused WW2 or you're so dumb you don't realise that anti-semitism isn't a religion. Either way you need the 'doh' moment.
i dont think anybody thinks jewish people started WW2 but hitlers hatred towards them was a big factor in starting the war
i shall refrain from adding a emoticon at the end incase anybody thinks its aimed and people dieing
Do you not understand that for your point to be valid, the aggressor of WW2 would have to have had a religious cause? Are you seriously suggesting Hitler was a pious man? Again, anti-semitism isn't a religion. "It may not have been his prior motive..but Hitler's ambition was to ethnically cleanse the world of Jewish people...you don't have to be religious to fear or hate religion? | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? I'm curious about this too, I work with a devout Muslim who is fasting at the moment. And when I showed him this site he said it's totally sinful and the work of evil??" Easy they be bad muslims. Just like all the christians on here. Nearly everyone cherry picks thier religion. If somone devoutly followed the word of the quoran 99% of people here would decry them as brutal bigoted barbarians. "Moderate" when it comes to pretty kuch any of the abrahamic religions really means "bad". | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it "We joined the war before we knew the jews where being exterminated. We only found out about that when we liberated the camps | |||
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"Pointless to arguing with people who have never opened a book. " P.s. grammatically correct sentences help with a petty low blow worzel... | |||
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"Pointless to arguing with people who have never opened a book. P.s. grammatically correct sentences help with a petty low blow worzel..." Haha I bloody should reread myself before!
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" Do you not understand that for your point to be valid, the aggressor of WW2 would have to have had a religious cause? Are you seriously suggesting Hitler was a pious man? Again, anti-semitism isn't a religion. " no anti semitism isnt a religion but you dont have to be religious to start a war over religion hell if that makes sense im going for a drink | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
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???? How does that even apply ???
Because you're either so racist you think that Jews caused WW2 or you're so dumb you don't realise that anti-semitism isn't a religion. Either way you need the 'doh' moment.
i dont think anybody thinks jewish people started WW2 but hitlers hatred towards them was a big factor in starting the war
i shall refrain from adding a emoticon at the end incase anybody thinks its aimed and people dieing
Do you not understand that for your point to be valid, the aggressor of WW2 would have to have had a religious cause? Are you seriously suggesting Hitler was a pious man? Again, anti-semitism isn't a religion.
It may not have been his prior motive..but Hitler's ambition was to ethnically cleanse the world of Jewish people...you don't have to be religious to fear or hate religion?"If you knew the first thing about history then you'd know Hitlers anti-semitism was a racist conviction and not a religious one. It was their blood that he hated, not their interpretation of the Torah. Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. Sorry but I can't be bothered arguing with people who invoke historical references to support their prejudices but clearly don't know the first thing about it so I won't be responding to you anymore. | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
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???? How does that even apply ???
Because you're either so racist you think that Jews caused WW2 or you're so dumb you don't realise that anti-semitism isn't a religion. Either way you need the 'doh' moment.
i dont think anybody thinks jewish people started WW2 but hitlers hatred towards them was a big factor in starting the war
i shall refrain from adding a emoticon at the end incase anybody thinks its aimed and people dieing
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It may not have been his prior motive..but Hitler's ambition was to ethnically cleanse the world of Jewish people...you don't have to be religious to fear or hate religion?"yes your right it wasn't his motive, and nor was the 1st world war about religion.. nor where any of Napoleons campaigns about religion.. nor the American and English civil wars, the Boer wars, the 100 years war.. there's probably a few more in the last thousand years iv'e omitted to mention.. probably more to do with power and control of other peoples resources or something.. | |||
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We only found out about that when we liberated the camps"Strictly speaking we knew way before the end of the war. Churchill even decided against bombing Auschwitz or its connected rail lines. | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
We joined the war before we knew the jews where being exterminated.
We only found out about that when we liberated the camps
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. " no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion " Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. " yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2 | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2 "Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide. | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2 " | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2
Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide. "makes perfect sense to me what dont make sense though is how you keep saying hitler hated jews as a race not a religion when judaism isnt a race, the religion is comprised of multi ethnicities so how can it be a single race? | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2
Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide.
makes perfect sense to me
what dont make sense though is how you keep saying hitler hated jews as a race not a religion when judaism isnt a race, the religion is comprised of multi ethnicities so how can it be a single race?"Race and ethnicity aren't the same. Yes Jews are a race and Judaism is a religion, many Jews are atheists. I assure that the Nazi's killed anyone with Jewish blood, not just those attending the synagogue. Seriously, read Mein Kampf. The whole Nazi ideology is about race and blood. So in your head, a non-religious group commit genocide against a group that we'll call religious for the sake of debate, but it's the religion that is the cause of that??? Just explain that one to me because I can't get my head around it sorry | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2
Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide.
makes perfect sense to me
what dont make sense though is how you keep saying hitler hated jews as a race not a religion when judaism isnt a race, the religion is comprised of multi ethnicities so how can it be a single race?"Hitler saw them as a separate race. And he claimed that 'race' to be sub human. He also claimed that Aryans were a race - there's no such race. He believed they were the superior race. Also it is clear that the Germans under Hitler started the war when they invaded Poland. But let's not let pesky facts in the way. | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2
Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide.
makes perfect sense to me
what dont make sense though is how you keep saying hitler hated jews as a race not a religion when judaism isnt a race, the religion is comprised of multi ethnicities so how can it be a single race?
Race and ethnicity aren't the same. Yes Jews are a race and Judaism is a religion, many Jews are atheists. I assure that the Nazi's killed anyone with Jewish blood, not just those attending the synagogue. Seriously, read Mein Kampf. The whole Nazi ideology is about race and blood.
So in your head, a non-religious group commit genocide against a group that we'll call religious for the sake of debate, but it's the religion that is the cause of that??? Just explain that one to me because I can't get my head around it sorry "im not looking for an argument i studied medician at uni not history, ive never claimed to be an expert on WW2 ive just given my views on what i have picked up throughout my life, im not saying they are correct you seem to be getting quite heated over it all though maybe we should call this a day | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2
Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide.
makes perfect sense to me
what dont make sense though is how you keep saying hitler hated jews as a race not a religion when judaism isnt a race, the religion is comprised of multi ethnicities so how can it be a single race?
Race and ethnicity aren't the same. Yes Jews are a race and Judaism is a religion, many Jews are atheists. I assure that the Nazi's killed anyone with Jewish blood, not just those attending the synagogue. Seriously, read Mein Kampf. The whole Nazi ideology is about race and blood.
So in your head, a non-religious group commit genocide against a group that we'll call religious for the sake of debate, but it's the religion that is the cause of that??? Just explain that one to me because I can't get my head around it sorry
im not looking for an argument i studied medician at uni not history, ive never claimed to be an expert on WW2 ive just given my views on what i have picked up throughout my life, im not saying they are correct
you seem to be getting quite heated over it all though maybe we should call this a day "Can you imagine if a man raped a woman and I said the clothes she wore 'caused' the rape? That's the same logic! I really don't think you believe either case so I'm baffled really. | |||
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" Your logic is also ridiculous because you don't understand that when a non-religious person hates a religious person, religion isn't causing that dispute. no sorry that just makes no sense to me if i hate somebody purely based on their religion whether im religious or not its still religion thats fueling my hate and causing the dispute i dont have top be religious to cause a dispute over religion Other than the fact it was the race of Jews he hated, read Mein Kampf... so you're basically saying it was the Jews fault for being Jewish and that's why WW2 was "caused" by religion. yeah thats what i said its all the jews fault they started WW2
Either you don't understand the meaning of the word "caused" or your logic makes no sense. You decide.
makes perfect sense to me
what dont make sense though is how you keep saying hitler hated jews as a race not a religion when judaism isnt a race, the religion is comprised of multi ethnicities so how can it be a single race?
Race and ethnicity aren't the same. Yes Jews are a race and Judaism is a religion, many Jews are atheists. I assure that the Nazi's killed anyone with Jewish blood, not just those attending the synagogue. Seriously, read Mein Kampf. The whole Nazi ideology is about race and blood.
So in your head, a non-religious group commit genocide against a group that we'll call religious for the sake of debate, but it's the religion that is the cause of that??? Just explain that one to me because I can't get my head around it sorry
im not looking for an argument i studied medician at uni not history, ive never claimed to be an expert on WW2 ive just given my views on what i have picked up throughout my life, im not saying they are correct
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. " No the bloke latched on to a centuries old prejudice and united people with him using that hatred. | |||
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. " This is what I meant when I posted on another thread. They start with picking on one group and move on to others that not fit in to their view of things. But anyways I think we all could do with a group hug? | |||
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. No the bloke latched on to a centuries old prejudice and united people with him using that hatred. " He was disgusting. He wasn't a nut. The worst decisions he made were all done while he was in decent enough health. | |||
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. This is what I meant when I posted on another thread. They start with picking on one group and move on to others that not fit in to their view of things. But anyways I think we all could do with a group hug?" First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. | |||
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. This is what I meant when I posted on another thread. They start with picking on one group and move on to others that not fit in to their view of things. But anyways I think we all could do with a group hug? First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Socialist. Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." this.. | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
We joined the war before we knew the jews where being exterminated.
We only found out about that when we liberated the camps
Strictly speaking we knew way before the end of the war. Churchill even decided against bombing Auschwitz or its connected rail lines. "Did i say the end of the war? The camps had bren inspected and thier purpose hidden we just thought for the longest ot times they where concentration or internment camps. Exactly like america was tunning for the Japanese. We knew the camps existed but we did not know about the industrial scale massacre when we made our decision to enter the war. | |||
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. No the bloke latched on to a centuries old prejudice and united people with him using that hatred. He was disgusting. He wasn't a nut. The worst decisions he made were all done while he was in decent enough health. " He was a piss por military comander though fortunately. The more paranoid he came and the more power he took from his frankly brilliant generals thr better the war went fir the allies | |||
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"What kind of a god would happily let children die EVERY hour whilst murderers enjoy a burger...and please don't say 'thats gods will' because that's a pretty fucked up 'will' And why was hell introduced into the Bible at a later stage like a scary naughty step... it also seems gods have tired of performing miracles of late... Nearly all wars are caused by religion... I must admit after losing some pretty amazing people in my life whilst watching some pretty evil shitmarks live on...I'm happy thinking we're all part of the universe and religion has just enslaved those that seek faith that can't find it in themselves What was the religious cause of world war two? something about jews wasnt it
We joined the war before we knew the jews where being exterminated.
We only found out about that when we liberated the camps
Strictly speaking we knew way before the end of the war. Churchill even decided against bombing Auschwitz or its connected rail lines.
Did i say the end of the war?
The camps had bren inspected and thier purpose hidden we just thought for the longest ot times they where concentration or internment camps.
Exactly like america was tunning for the Japanese.
We knew the camps existed but we did not know about the industrial scale massacre when we made our decision to enter the war."It had nothing to do with why we entered the war and that's not been mentioned. But yes we did know about millions of Jews disappearing. A couple of men escaped Auschwitz and reported on precisely what was happening. We knew. Hard to accept but that's the truth. | |||
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"it wasn't just those of Jewish origin who were persecuted and murdered, gay people, trades unionists, communists, journalists etc .. bloke was a nut .. No the bloke latched on to a centuries old prejudice and united people with him using that hatred. He was disgusting. He wasn't a nut. The worst decisions he made were all done while he was in decent enough health. He was a piss por military comander though fortunately. The more paranoid he came and the more power he took from his frankly brilliant generals thr better the war went fir the allies " Yup and his book is embarrassingly bad too! Tells you all you need to know about the rationality of people that get whipped up by prejudice. | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?! "My thoughts from earlier too | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?! "Someone said that all wars have a religious cause. Someone else quoted WWII. Then someone said it was religious because of antisemitism. And ... here we are. | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?!
My thoughts from earlier too "Because you can't mention religion on fab without the anti brigade throwing around insults and nonsense. | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?!
My thoughts from earlier too
Because you can't mention religion on fab without the anti brigade throwing around insults and nonsense."And a good portion of this is nonsense. Nothing to do with ramadan. This forum post should be closed | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?!
My thoughts from earlier too
Because you can't mention religion on fab without the anti brigade throwing around insults and nonsense.
And a good portion of this is nonsense. Nothing to do with ramadan. This forum post should be closed"Spoken by people who don't fully understand Islam. Any way only two and bit hours left and I can eat my lamb kabli | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?!
My thoughts from earlier too
Because you can't mention religion on fab without the anti brigade throwing around insults and nonsense.
And a good portion of this is nonsense. Nothing to do with ramadan. This forum post should be closed"I have no idea. You can blame me for the ethics bit but I have no idea how it went to WWII. | |||
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"How did this thread go from Ramadan, to the ethics of swinging under Islam to WW2?!
My thoughts from earlier too
Because you can't mention religion on fab without the anti brigade throwing around insults and nonsense.
And a good portion of this is nonsense. Nothing to do with ramadan. This forum post should be closed
Spoken by people who don't fully understand Islam.
Any way only two and bit hours left and I can eat my lamb kabli"I don't understand women but I have a view on them... | |||
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" Any way only two and bit hours left and I can eat my lamb kabli" Oooooo what's a kabli? | |||
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" Any way only two and bit hours left and I can eat my lamb kabli Oooooo what's a kabli?" It's kind of like a lamb stew with rice and fried nuts. | |||
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" Any way only two and bit hours left and I can eat my lamb kabli Oooooo what's a kabli? It's kind of like a lamb stew with rice and fried nuts. " It's like a Gre kurn. | |||
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" Any way only two and bit hours left and I can eat my lamb kabli Oooooo what's a kabli? It's kind of like a lamb stew with rice and fried nuts. " Sounds yum | |||
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"You asked a question and it got answered. What you should have done is, at the end of your message put - "positive answers only as I'm Muslim and I will take offence at negative values, nee throw in the racist card, also if I don't some one will. Sorry but I also think it's a load of rubbish. "Another person who can't distinguish between an opinion and an insult | |||
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"What's the point or fun in starving yourself for 3 weeks in the name of religion? Absolute stupidity !!" It is to make them realise how it feels to be poor and have no food or water. Not a bad idea really. We could all use some perspective. | |||
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"Without wanting to sound bigotted, how do you Muslim folk on here reconcile your religious beliefs (which I in no way belittle) with swinging? You have a point. Muslim swinger is a oxymoron. Yet at the same time Muslims are human being before and after all, so even though they would like to follow certain rules, they are subjected to basic human drives as well. " | |||
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