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By *rRmrsV OP Couple over a year ago

outskirts of chester

Hi guys

just wondering the general concenus (sp) of meets at home when you have a young family?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You don't you get a baby sitter I'd like to think no one would play with kids in the house.

What a horrible thing. We all need sex but your kids needs are 1st

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This has been done before in the forums and I think the general feel was that its not widely accepted.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have friends who have a young family and so we play at theirs when they can't get sitters.

Haven't had any "incidents" other than the kiddy's waking up every now and again, but they've never come downstairs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have friends who have a young family and so we play at theirs when they can't get sitters.

Haven't had any "incidents" other than the kiddy's waking up every now and again, but they've never come downstairs.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry but I wouldn't do it doesn't feel right to me. If you can't get a sitter tough shit.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have friends who have a young family and so we play at theirs when they can't get sitters.

Haven't had any "incidents" other than the kiddy's waking up every now and again, but they've never come downstairs.

What would you do if they did?

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By *hristopher WalksMan over a year ago

somewhere

I think it happens way more than people care to be honest about

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

Isn't it up to the individuals themselves to gauge whether it is right for them or not?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well each to their own I guess but a hell of alot wouldn't either

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By *inky24big35Couple over a year ago

blackpool

we use to wen our kids were very young but not anymore,scared of them coming downstairs lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Isn't it up to the individuals themselves to gauge whether it is right for them or not?

Yes but OP asked a question I answered it. Toe it's wrong. It's my opinion I'm not asking everyone else to follow it. Jeez

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think it happens way more than people care to be honest about

If people aren't wanting to be honest about playing at home with young one's about then it speaks volumes of the level of acceptance wouldn't you say?

I've got to be honest, the thought of a small child sitting behind a bedroom door, listening to mummy getting banged by a stranger downstairs turns my stomach. For that reason I'm going to wander away from this thread to save myself getting wound up

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"Well each to their own I guess but a hell of alot wouldn't either"

Yup that's true too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You and me both

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

It's always best to when there is a chance of going over the top!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

as my profile says I will never ever accom because i have kids and would never want one walking in on me I still get people asking saying things like well if they are out surely once wouldn't hurt .....my answer is sorry but no way thankfully most people are not pushy and understand and those that dont tough

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have friends who have a young family and so we play at theirs when they can't get sitters.

Haven't had any "incidents" other than the kiddy's waking up every now and again, but they've never come downstairs.

What would you do if they did? "

In this case, the kiddy's are both under 4. They are in bed by 7pm and don't usually wake up once they are settled.

There is a lockable child safety gate at the top of the stairs.

We had a social evening first so that we could see if we felt comfortable with the situation.

I agree it's not for everyone, but then again, a lot of the other things discussed here, isn't for us either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont play at home because swinging to me is my secret life and that doesnt cross over into my real life. I do not agree with swinging whilst young children are in the house. Even if they dont come downstairs and are checked regularly, you never know what they have or havent heard and how it has affected them. Children are more important than swinging

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By *rRmrsV OP Couple over a year ago

outskirts of chester

wow very reactive thread! we can understand why too!

a little about our situation is we have a 5yo in the house altho she doesnt get up, and another member posted about hearing things a 5yo should never hear! thats our concern too so for that reason we wouldnt,

twist

5yo is away every other saturday night at grandparents

that leaves us with our 10week old who sleeps upstairs in the cot (baby monitor sensor pad)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I accomidate so don't have this problem

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A 10 month old? I don't care what age the child is or that you have a baby moniter to me it's wrong. Sorry that's my opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i would imagine that most would get a sitter for the kids when playing

i for one have had many a horny moment with my partner whilst my daughter was asleep upstairs.......but only with my partner!

i wouldnt be able to relax if it was with another female/couple....and i probably wouldnt be comfortable having fun in someone elses house if their kids were in.

A drink and a chat is fine....but is a snog and a fumble still ok? some oral?? running around naked would feel so wrong for me...so i suppose its down to the individuals

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not for me, whilst family is around it's family time in my mind.

I just wouldn't relax and enjoy the moment at all.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And if I was getting down to it and I heard the baby on the moniter how off putting would that be?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You've got a 10 week old baby and you want sex..... I wouldnt be spending any extra time sucking cock, Id be using that time to close my eyes - good on you for being organised and efficient

I wouldnt swing with any age children in the house. In the end it comes down to what you want to do though, it is your decision and only you know how you'd feel about it

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By *ustyWoman over a year ago

inverclyde

i would never dream of having anyone in my house for fun when my daughter is at home and she is 14

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

It's not for me.

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By *andy muncherMan over a year ago

Nottingham

been in this situation a few times for young cpls with families it can be a problem but dont to hard on them

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

make sure you tell the other people there are kids in the house lol

i went to a guys house once and didnt realise there was a kid there till he got up and walked in on me in the loo!!!

me stark naked is a scary sight at the best of times but when you are half asleep and its a stranger its enough to cause therapy into your early 30s

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"make sure you tell the other people there are kids in the house lol

i went to a guys house once and didnt realise there was a kid there till he got up and walked in on me in the loo!!!

me stark naked is a scary sight at the best of times but when you are half asleep and its a stranger its enough to cause therapy into your early 30s

I would have gone ballistic!

I mean him not telling me, not seeing you naked

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

"make sure you tell the other people there are kids in the house lol

i went to a guys house once and didnt realise there was a kid there till he got up and walked in on me in the loo!!!

me stark naked is a scary sight at the best of times but when you are half asleep and its a stranger its enough to cause therapy into your early 30s

I would have gone ballistic!

I mean him not telling me, not seeing you naked

i just walked into the bedroom saying 'errrrr think we've been rumbled!!!!'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We don't have kids.

But I do.

I would agree with jack, and i won't comment on janelle!

Every story has different sides with differnet tales

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sorry im with janelle on this one,

i wouldnt care if its a baby or a teenager, no way jose!!

xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why not comment on janelle be brave spit it out

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im a noisy so and so when doing the deed so would wake any kids up.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why not comment on janelle be brave spit it out "

As i have very much an each to ones own attitude!

What tickles ones fancy may not tickle anothers.

If its not for me i stay well away, I make my comment and let be! Not really into a drawn out debate about the pros' and cons of parenthood.

We can't all agree all of the time! If we did it would be a dull world!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont accommodate even if the kids are out

I used to have guys round at the weekend when my daughter was at her dads or during school time but twice i had guys take advantage of the fact they knew where i lived and seemed to think cause i was a woman alone it was ok to just abuse my trust and turn up un announced for sex, one came round about 3am one morning pissed up after a night out wanting a shag, my kids was in bed and he banged so loud to get a reply he woke the whole house up, the other one turned up during the day when my kids was at school but i still felt it was wrong to just turn up expecting sex without asking first

After that i never gave my address out again, i use hotels or clubs

I sure would never have anyone here when my kids was home, even if they was in bed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would never play in someones house while they had kids in bed

I did meet one couple whos kids where home, two was in bed and the other was still up but getting ready for bed

I told them out right i was not comfy about the fact they invited me to their home with kids there and left

To me it show no respect at all for the children, i wouldnt do it to mine, i wouldnt do it to other peoples kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't get me wrong!

We don't have kids, so no kids here.

But some couples meet when they can! As long as proper precations are taken then whats the problem.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't get me wrong!

We don't have kids, so no kids here.

But some couples meet when they can! As long as proper precations are taken then whats the problem.

To me its just feels wrong to go to someones home and have sex while theres kids there

I personally wouldnt have anyone to my house with my kids in because i would never forgive myself if i met a dodgy guys and he harmed my children

Not a nice thing to think about but things like that do happen and if there was dodgy guys on these sites who better to target than single mums who accommodate

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By *emima_puddlefuckCouple over a year ago

hexham

We wont meet if the kids are home.It slows things down,but they matter more.The fact is good sex means being relaxed and comfortable,how could we do that if we were worried about waking them up?

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By *mumaWoman over a year ago

Livingston

I have a 14yo and will NOT have any meet in the house when she is there.

At the end of the day it is her house as much as mine and if people cannot respect that then they are not worth meeting

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I live with my 19 and 23 year old daughters. It wouldn't cross my mind to allow a stranger into my home when they are there.

In the eight years since I've left their dad they've only woken up once and seen a man in the house and I was dating him!

My youngest is away at uni and I meet when my eldest is at work or away. Sometimes it's hard to relax if I don't know what shift she's on.

As a single woman, inviting strange men into my home when my daughter's are home is unthinkable. I think a lot of women need a wake up call and respect for themselves. If a man says he can't accommodate because he has nosey neighbours, flatmates etc I wouldn't let him anywhere near my home and children as he respects his neighbours more than your kids!

Truth is we know there are parents that put their own selfish needs before those of their kids so why are we surprised some are on Fab?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We were chatting a while back to a couple on the phone who accomodated at their home and you could cleasrly hear children in the background. When we asked about what happens to the children whilst you play we never even got a reply, that told us that they would be in the home. Thankfully we never heard from them again, so didn't have to make excuses.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

we have 2 daughters aged 20 and 22 both have left home now but still turn up at all hours of day and nite ... and have caught us having sex never mind having strangers in the house for a play ... hence the reason we wont accom ... doesnt matter wot ages they are i wudnt feel comfy with children around ..but each to there own

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"we have 2 daughters aged 20 and 22 both have left home now but still turn up at all hours of day and nite ... and have caught us having sex never mind having strangers in the house for a play ... hence the reason we wont accom ... doesnt matter wot ages they are i wudnt feel comfy with children around ..but each to there own "

Couldn't agree more, we are in the same boat there, our older children pop round at any time (as it should be) so couldn't take the chance of meeting anyone at ours ever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I had the worst meet ever when my partner and I went to a woman's house and it turned out that three children under 5 were upstairs. It was so uncomfortable and wrong that we had to leave. This woman used to meet most days and she said that she introduced some of her more regular meets to her children?!!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!

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By *rs WhiteCouple over a year ago

South

Couldn't agree more, we are in the same boat there, our older children pop round at any time (as it should be) so couldn't take the chance of meeting anyone at ours ever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I had the worst meet ever when my partner and I went to a woman's house and it turned out that three children under 5 were upstairs. It was so uncomfortable and wrong that we had to leave. This woman used to meet most days and she said that she introduced some of her more regular meets to her children?!!!!!!!!!?????!!!!!!!!"

I'm with those who say that they couldn't play in a house with other peoples children there.

The risk is too high.

My children are older. Don't live at home and would always check that a) im in or b) I don't have visitors that might be interupted.

I discussed years ago with them the fact that adults have lives of their own and respect should be a two way thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldnt consider doing it, unless they have a babysitter and the kids arent home, it would make me much too nervous. And i dont care what age they are

Luckily for me, mine are grown up, both work so can work round that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Now that IS terrible

though to be honest my son has met one of mine but i cant dictate to my son when he can and cant be home as he is 23 yrs old, also this man was/is a friend and helped me with my pc issues, we also went to chameleons together so at some point, even if fleeting, my son would have been home when he came round. BUT i would never do what she did, my son has only met one person in the 17 months since i started to swing

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I dont accommodate even if the kids are out

After that i never gave my address out again, i use hotels or clubs

I sure would never have anyone here when my kids was home, even if they was in bed"

I rarely meet at my home, most of my meets are guys that live an hour or so drive away so ive no issue with them turning up in the middle of the night d*unk, all mine know i work full time so i wouldnt be home anyway. But i trust very few to come to my home, and some of those that come to my house, just do so to pick me up when we go to chameleons. And i would never ever give out my address to someone ive not met either. If it then means, playing with someone is difficult to organise and doesnt happen often, so be it, id rather be safe, and not have my son find out what i am up to

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By *plpxp2Couple over a year ago

Middlesbrough

Swinging / family life: these have always been two completely seperate things in my _iew and I would never consider playing if kids are in the house.

Had one guy invite us to his house with his son there and said it was ok as "he had a learning difficulty and didn't understand", sorry but no!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't get me wrong!

We don't have kids, so no kids here.

But some couples meet when they can! As long as proper precations are taken then whats the problem.

I agree, proper precautions being no kids there

I'm sorry but as I previously said, family there, it's family time, as parents I believe the safety of our children should become before our own thrill.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Couldn't agree more, we are in the same boat there, our older children pop round at any time (as it should be) so couldn't take the chance of meeting anyone at ours ever.

That's my _iew too. Now my youngest is in Derby, there's no chance of her just popping in. My other daughter works shifts, sometimes goes on training courses or takes a day off without saying, and her boyfriend has a key to my home too and could turn up any time.

I could work for MI5 the subtle questions I ask to find out if they'll be home so I can play: I'm single and they're adults! Let alone with young kids.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i would never meet when my son is in the house. he is at his grandparents every saturday and thats when i play. if a guy dont like this then tough titties. my son comes first.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sassy knocked the nail on the head with her comment. Some will put swinging and sex before their own kids. As she said why should we be so suprised. This happens and will always happens.

No it's not right and no I wouldn't do it but a hell of alot will.

I will steer clear of people like that they can't give a shit about their kids feeling.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't get me wrong!

We don't have kids, so no kids here.

But some couples meet when they can! As long as proper precations are taken then whats the problem.

I wonder if you _iews would be different if you had young daughter's in the house. Would you really have horny stranger's traipsing through your home if there was a chance your children would wake up, or hear what you were doing?

Or wouldn't it matter as long as you can have fun with stranger's when you can?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've not got kids and no way in hell would I do this. I think for someone to do this they are selfish putting their own needs before their kids.

People like that are not worth it

As for precautions what could you take? Lock the kids in their rooms.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've not got kids and no way in hell would I do this. I think for someone to do this they are selfish putting their own needs before their kids.

People like that are not worth it

As for precautions what could you take? Lock the kids in their rooms. "

and put ear defenders on em too???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've not got kids and no way in hell would I do this. I think for someone to do this they are selfish putting their own needs before their kids.

People like that are not worth it

As for precautions what could you take? Lock the kids in their rooms.

and put ear defenders on em too???

I bet they would too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

what strikes me throughout this thread is people referring to having strangers in their house??? really???

well thank the lord that im perhaps old fashioned in my approach and would have numerous meets away from my home before i would even consider the possibility of them knowing where i stay, never mind being in my house........

Its all about the safety of the kids IMHO

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's also about choosing your meets carefully never and I mean never have I had a problem

with any guy I've invited back. I've had no booty calls nothing. Why? As they respect me. Men that turn up in the middle of night for sex without asking have no respect as I've said time and time ago choose your partners carefully. Not rocket science.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

easier said than done sometimes hun!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its high risk if your children are there in bed .. alot of the time you chat here get to know a person .... but how well do you really know them ?? Thay could be a rapest or even a murduras ... could be a peadfiles ... and know there are children around after getting to know you and about your life. I am sure most are normal sexy people but you just never know thay could slip you a drug in your drink and you would know very little .. This is extreme i know but you never know ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"easier said than done sometimes hun!

Well I've been doing it years and I've never encounted a booty call or someone turn up unannounced

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i may need some top tips off ya sweetie!

xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's also about choosing your meets carefully never and I mean never have I had a problem

Indeed!

I also have the address and all other relevant contact details of all my meets. One of my playmates used to live down the road and we'd bump into each other in Sainsbury's. We'd make eye contact, smile, and both go about our business. No one looking would ever know what we'd been doing to each other the day before.

He's since moved a little further away, and will always email/text if he's heading my way for rugby practise to see if I'm free to see him.

Not once has any of my playmates phoned late, turned up unexpected...they wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't dream of doing it to them.

It's all about boundaries, and the men I meet do not need telling how to behave...well...you know what I mean!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Another thing about my meets they become trusted friends.

Yesterday for example I've done my back in one of them said anything you want let me know shopping etc. My sister had got all that for me but that's the people I meet. Yes it's just sex but doesn't mean we don't become friends.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldnt ever take the risk with it because it isnt right. Theres the aspect of not really knowing who you are inviting into your home with your most precious possession there, theres the expectation that children are kept safe and looked after and theres the inappropriateness of children hearing or seeing sexual behaviour.

Now ok all of us have had sex whilst children are in the house, but for most of us its in the bedroom, lights out and trying to keep as quiet as possible. All of us are unnerved by the fact that our parents have had sex. But imagine knowing your parents have had sex with a group of other people and hearing that activity, how frightening that must be to a child.

And what if your child goes into nursery and says mummy and daddy had other ladies and men in the house and the men were all showing their willies and the ladies were putting the willies in their mouths and then the men were putting their willies in the ladies bottoms and the ladies were shouting out - you'd have social workers around your house so bloody quick you wouldnt know what had hit you. And ok once social workers came around, ascertained you were swingers, talked to your child, gave you the lecture about sexually inapproriate behaviour and how children copy this, even if that was the end of it, your details and your childs name would be on a computer somewhere, information shared with the school - it just isnt worth it for a few hours of fun - go to a hotel or a swinging club

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Its high risk if your children are there in bed .. alot of the time you chat here get to know a person .... but how well do you really know them ?? Thay could be a rapest or even a murduras ... could be a peadfiles ... and know there are children around after getting to know you and about your life. I am sure most are normal sexy people but you just never know thay could slip you a drug in your drink and you would know very little .. This is extreme i know but you never know .."

That is extreme Jo, but it happens.

I've read posts from some women on here that make me cringe they put themselves down, don't have confidence and they post that meets have beaten them up, turn up all hours looking for sex etc. One even traced a woman by the taxi company she used!

It will only take one unsrupulous man to meet such women and for it to end badly.

There are men that target single women with children - only last year wasn't it, that van driver that convinced a woman he'd recently met to let him take her nine year old daughter with him on his early morning delivery rounds and he ended up raping and killing her.

The police should have charged her too in my opinion. I will never understand how she would let a man she recently met go off with her nine year old daughter at silly oclock in the morning.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?"

It's the same thing she's a fuck buddy her kids are in bed your getting your rocks off. Have some respect for her kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I do remember reading on one post once this couple had a party they came on here the next day to complain how their house had been treated. Guests had sex in their little girls bedroom. Luckily the girl was at her dads.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?"

I am actually with you on this one.. Kids are sound asleep.. I am locked away in my bedroom....

However, I would never do group stuff while kids are in bed.. thats for when they are safely at school.. or when we go to a club.

However, the people that get invited over when kids are sound asleep are people I have come to know from other times.

Never had a problem... For all they know if they did wake, it would be me and Master having a good time.

Same as the kids never hear or see the other side of Master and I's relationship.. We see this as no different.

katie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?

It's the same thing she's a fuck buddy her kids are in bed your getting your rocks off. Have some respect for her kids"

so if you have a partner...a wife....a friend with benefits.....then its a no sex rule if there is a kid in their bed???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?"

Same difference: you're nothing but a fuck buddy! Just ask yourself, be honest, if you had a young daughter, living with you or say the mother, would you really be happy knowing strangers were having sex whilst she could hear?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I do remember reading on one post once this couple had a party they came on here the next day to complain how their house had been treated. Guests had sex in their little girls bedroom. Luckily the girl was at her dads.

and i think thats what it all boils down to.....some common sense! if anyone was to consider having a sex party with kids upstairs then its social services who would be banging on the door.....and rightly so!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Now your being stupid a fuck buddy is one thing your boyfriend or husband is another.

Just have some respect kids are not stupid. Mommy had a different man around each night. Love to see the teachers face when they say that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Now your being stupid a fuck buddy is one thing your boyfriend or husband is another.

Just have some respect kids are not stupid. Mommy had a different man around each night. Love to see the teachers face when they say that.

stupid??? really

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?

It's the same thing she's a fuck buddy her kids are in bed your getting your rocks off. Have some respect for her kids

so if you have a partner...a wife....a friend with benefits.....then its a no sex rule if there is a kid in their bed???"

I think you're missing the point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Parties I totally agree... although I had a friend who got nasty and reported me to social services for the fact that I had playmates around after hours..

The verdict.. as long as kids werent seeing it.. and I used common sense ( ie not then leaving kids alone with the guys) there was no problem and they were happy to back off.. as my social life is my social life..

It was also reported about me being in a bdsm relationship.. again.. the result was as long as kids arent seeing that side.. there is no problem.

My children could not get in my door.. and trust me I am louder when Master and I are having time together than any playmate.. and the children rarely wake.. ( with Master and I..)

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?"
..Alot of the time in swinging its fast lane sex you dont really know the person well thats swinging for you and thats the diffrents your mates you do. And new person you have chated to in cyberland its not real untill face to face ..... some have been nothing like the person i chatted to meeting in life ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?

It's the same thing she's a fuck buddy her kids are in bed your getting your rocks off. Have some respect for her kids

so if you have a partner...a wife....a friend with benefits.....then its a no sex rule if there is a kid in their bed???

I think you're missing the point.

ok i was trying to establish a few facts.....the difference between a friend with benefits and a fuck buddy is?

cos in my past i have had a friend with benefits who i met up with now and then....was a regular family friend and not a stranger to my household

the fact that mummy had a friend staying overnight did not impact on my daughter......ps i played bite the pillow to keep the noise down

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I also never ever would have someone stay the night.. and dont play till quite late pm...

My son has seen one of my playmates.. but we meet socially in the week too.. so he thinks nothing of my "friend" popping around for coffee.. and being into cars, most of my friends are guys anyway..

I do think that kids seeing or hearing a lot all the time would be bad.. but I happen to know that mine dont..

First meet ups are never done at home..

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe I'm old fashioned then. But no way would I allow my children to be in the house when a fuck buddy or someone I met on a swinging site.

But a boyfriend is someone I'm hoping to spend my life with on a permanant basis. A fuck buddy is not. He's just a fuck and not part of my life or family

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don't you get a baby sitter I'd like to think no one would play with kids in the house.

What a horrible thing. We all need sex but your kids needs are 1st"

Totally agree Janelle

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If you waited for the one to be there while you had kids in the house.. then you would never have sex.

Sex is a normal part of life.. making it so taboo is as bad as being obvious..

I know my parents often had sex.. I also when I got older and parents had split, knew my mum had men in when I was asleep.. I knew who, I knew when.. but I was 13 by then..

I also was old enough to know my mum was not going to spend the rest of her life alone.. if we got to meet them, we knew my mum really liked them.. That happened twice.. one sadly was a cheating lying git.. the other sadly had a heart attack and died..

Social services asked my kids questions about mummys friends.. my 10 year old rambled on about how my friends were boring and all we talked about was cars, or played on the xbox, or watched bad movies.. ( he means things like romcoms lol not porn)

After nearly 2 hours of them questioning my kids they were happy that they never see nor hear anything.. Now I am a psychologist and am very aware of anything that could impact my kids..and agree kids seeing a different man all the time could cause issues.. but thats the point..

I am standing up for all the parents on here that wont dare admit to doing this for fear of getting slated.. but everyone is allowed an opinion.. Yes if I had the option of kids not in the house I would prehaps chose that but I dont.. I can not travel because of how we play.. Its safer for me in my own home.. we have safety procedures in place...and it works..

I think that as long as its not someone you have met that night on chat.. and that someone else knows your meeting.. that the risks are no more than bringing a guy home that you have met elsewhere.. its all about common sense..

Oh and Of course lock your door..and dont let kids see them coming in and out of your room..

My regular playmates are used to being "sneaked" up and down the stairs.. only after I have checked that everyone is indeed still asleep.

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?

It's the same thing she's a fuck buddy her kids are in bed your getting your rocks off. Have some respect for her kids

so if you have a partner...a wife....a friend with benefits.....then its a no sex rule if there is a kid in their bed???

I think you're missing the point.

ok i was trying to establish a few facts.....the difference between a friend with benefits and a fuck buddy is?

cos in my past i have had a friend with benefits who i met up with now and then....was a regular family friend and not a stranger to my household

the fact that mummy had a friend staying overnight did not impact on my daughter......ps i played bite the pillow to keep the noise down

My two daughters I live with are now 19 and 23. In the eight years since I've left their father they've only seen one man in the house in the morning - and I was dating him.

I've had playmate round and we've been out in the garden having a chat and drink. As far as my girls were concerned they're just friends, just like my girlfriends who come round are just friends: no different.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I waited til there was no kids in the house then I'd never have sex?

Jeez well if that was the case I wouldn't sex is not the be all and end all but my children would be. So if I had to go without for them I would.

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By *aneyandBenCouple over a year ago

n london

Would be weird, less so if they were v small though and unlikely to wander anywhere.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If I waited til there was no kids in the house then I'd never have sex?

Jeez well if that was the case I wouldn't sex is not the be all and end all but my children would be. So if I had to go without for them I would.

As a parent.. my kids always come first.. In any way.. I have cancelled many meets simply because I am not sure that they will stay settled..

As a parent you know your kids better than anyone.. I always know by 8pm if I am going to have them sleep through. guess it helps that for my kids.. I have the bedroom at the back of the house, them at the front..

Question for those saying no way.. would you have sex with your partner if you thought the kids may wake, or hear??? or do you wait for them to go?

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Maybe I'm old fashioned then. But no way would I allow my children to be in the house when a fuck buddy or someone I met on a swinging site.

But a boyfriend is someone I'm hoping to spend my life with on a permanant basis. A fuck buddy is not. He's just a fuck and not part of my life or family "

Oh i agree. I never have and never would allow anyone ive met on a swinging site to stay overnight when my kid is in the house

i think i have a different take on the friend with benefits situation that i had a few years back from what people's image is of fuck buddy on this thread

gangbangs.....multiple people running around the naked...permitting strangers in your house.... well yes in my _iew that is concerning when kids are present

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont think you can ever be 100% sure that your children dont hear anything. You may think they are asleep, and all of can pretend to be asleep when checked. Because they dont make a noise or appear to be awake does not mean that they cant hear. I wouldnt chance it. I could never be 100% sure and if theres a tiny chance they would hear then its not for me.

I dont think its right for the parents of a child to be having really noisy full on sex if kids are there either. Yes its hard when you have an active sex life but you have to find ways around it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont think its right for the parents of a child to be having really noisy full on sex if kids are there either. Yes its hard when you have an active sex life but you have to find ways around it. "

Do you mean even with your Partner??

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If I was married it's different that person is part of their lives some meet from fab isn't at the end of the day you do things your way and I do things my way. My ways right in my eyes.

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By *aneyandBenCouple over a year ago

n london

Everyones way is right in their eyes, wouldnt be there way if it wasnt now would it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Everyones way is right in their eyes, wouldnt be there way if it wasnt now would it

Exactly what a boring world it would be if we was all the same x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wouldnt hesitate in an instant to change things if I thought it was impacting my kids..

However, the friend reporting me, and then having social services "carefully" question my kids.. showed me that they have no clue.. not an hint.. and that to me shows me that I was right.. and it has no more effect on them than occassionally maybe hearing me with Master..

Kids know parents have sex from a certain age.. you can kid yourself they dont know.. but they do... think back to being a kid.. didnt you just snigger.. or be loud coming out your room..

katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dont think its right for the parents of a child to be having really noisy full on sex if kids are there either. Yes its hard when you have an active sex life but you have to find ways around it.

Do you mean even with your Partner??

Katie.x"

My ex-husband and I learnt quickly how to make love without making noise. We'd even grab quickies in the bathroom because I heard my daughter's talking, well they were complaining. One had got up in the night and heard her father and I having sex. She was "offended" at hearing us doing "our business".

As far as we were concerned they were in bed fast asleep.

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By *aneyandBenCouple over a year ago

n london

"Everyones way is right in their eyes, wouldnt be there way if it wasnt now would it

Exactly what a boring world it would be if we was all the same x"

Indeed, although just cos i dont think its right doesnt make it wrong, just wrong for me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you mean even with your Partner??

Katie.x"

Yes I do. Im not saying I wouldnt have sex with a partner, yes I would. I wouldnt be in the next bedroom to my children shouting "fuck me harder, make me cum, lick my clit, let me ride your hard fucking cock now baby" because I think its wrong. I dont believe children should be involved in any way in sexual activity. I believe at home, where there are kids, you have to be quiet and just remember that they are there in the house. If you like to be very noisy and shout out, then make the most of times when kids arent there.

I am very good at whispering.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As far as we were concerned they were in bed fast asleep.

as parents the art of quieter sex is one I think you learn.. lol I am definately quieter than I may be elsewhere.. lol.. and if not.. thats what pillows are meant for..

Silent sex is useful for the quickies when kids are awake lol.. the sneaked fun...

I do remember my oldest once telling me " Mum, I heard you two last night" that was as far as it went..

My arguement is.. if they "heard" anything.. they would assume it was me and Master anyway..

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Kids do hear things, kids do catch you at times, and its very embarrassing and Id hate it, thats just a fact of life. Im not really referring to that though, its the all out screaming full of sessions, I think people need to be mindful of if children are in the house. Just as leaving pornography or vibrators or similar sexual stuff around so that kids can find it is wrong too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you mean even with your Partner??

Katie.x

I am very good at whispering. "

you dont need to scream and shout to have a good time.. although I do get a bit carried away from time to time.. but seeing as my oldest is 19, and had never been privy to my playtimes,or heard me saying things that would disturb him.. I think I must have the balance right...

A seductive whisper... or a under the pillow instruction works just as well....

I was brought up where my parents were quite openly sexual with one another.. not touching in front.. but just we knew it happened.. for instance.. my dad would suggest to my mum that he helped her make the bed.. the look on their faces even at 12 I knew what they meant..

Wouldnt hear anything more than giggles or the bed going..and I would just not go upstairs for a bit.. but I knew it wasnt just making the bed.. although I didnt quite know what was going on then..

I for one would be happier if sex education didnt happen till much later at school..

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Kids do hear things, kids do catch you at times, and its very embarrassing and Id hate it, thats just a fact of life. Im not really referring to that though, its the all out screaming full of sessions, I think people need to be mindful of if children are in the house. Just as leaving pornography or vibrators or similar sexual stuff around so that kids can find it is wrong too

My 10 year old knows full well what a vibrator is.. not that I told him.. but he does..

the only things in plain site in my room are a few things hanging from the top of my bed.. crops, paddles and stuff.. gags and stuff..but they never ask and my room is out of bounds anyway..

Now I run an adult store.. and have tons of stuff around my house.. but kids never see a bit of it..

although one horror story... I once had a play time on my own with a rabbit.. I washed it... dried it.. threw it on the bed while I got my shower.. My son saw it laying on the bed and it was flashing ( it was a very bright one.. flashed lots of colours and lighted up blue.. ) throwing it on the bed I must have turned it on..

He asked me what it was.. I said its was my light sabre.. BIG mistake.. I came out the shower just in time to stop him taking it out to play starwars with..

That was when I learnt to make sure I put everything away.. he was 4 at the time..

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Katie that is funny

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Katie that is funny

I can assure you I was mighty glad that he couldnt yet get out into the back garden alone...

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*Nods in agreement*

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

kids know alot more then you think .. from 6 years old i new stuff was going on ..... my mum and dad was swingers had partys ... I would sit on the steps and look at them ... my gran grandad lived next door so we would have to sleep there but over time i got to know what it was all about ..... was keys in there day . would go into there cars after picking a key out the hat.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

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"what strikes me throughout this thread is people referring to having strangers in their house??? really???

Its all about the safety of the kids IMHO

when i say strangers ...they wud be strangers to my daughters and as we are very close they know all our friends so hence my wording of strangers and not meets

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

just reread this thread since my last post, and looks like it's fairly unanamous that most wouldn't entertain playing anywhere where there are children present.

I've already said that we do, but the children are little more than toddlers. If they were school age, we wouldn't do it.

Any topics involving children can get quite emotive and I'm pleasantly surprised that this thread has stayed very civil

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have never heard such sanctimonius shite in a long time...thank you for the laugh.

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By *aneyandBenCouple over a year ago

n london

*nods in agreement

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

But it's Sunday it's a day of spouting shite x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Any topics involving children can get quite emotive and I'm pleasantly surprised that this thread has stayed very civil

see we aint all that bad afterall

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I guess it all depends on the childs age, gotta be a difference between a toddler in a cot bed and a teenager been in the house when playing.

Also, would it depend on who is meeting?

I mean, if its a 2 singles meeting and playing, would that be any different than a vanilla rendezvous if kids were to walk in on them? Surely not going to be as bad as kids walking in while their parents are in the full throws of passion with another couple

Each to their own I say, whatever you feel comfortable with.

I have met someone whos kids were upstairs, I didnt find out till half way through the meet and was a little taken a back by it and did feel awkward. Think that was more that I didnt know the lady or her circumstances that well. Now I know her better then I probably would meet again knowing the kids were upstairs.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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We were not playing these games when our kids were little and to be honest, if we had have been, it would have been away from the home.

I don't want this to look like I am picking out just one poster as a few have said the same thing...but Katie.....how do you know your children don't hear you?

Why I am asking you is, you said yourself that when you were young you knew your parents often had sex and even your mother and her B/F, I am guessing you knew that because you heard them?

You also said you are loudest when you are with Master anyway at home, and yet then say you muffle your cries.

We all know that most parents have sex but I don't think toys etc should be on show just as I don't think bringing strangers into our house for sex is a done thing for us either.

( I know some will say but they are not strangers, sorry, but thats how we play, so it is for us)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have never heard such sanctimonius shite in a long time...thank you for the laugh.

"
well its no laughing matter when kids are around even a sleep and strange people in the house .. friends boy friends yes. But alot dont really know the ins and outs of people lifes here just chating in cyber space .. its a risk .. and alot are willing to take that just for a shag.

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By *amschwingerzCouple over a year ago

West

So...basically she invited you into her home, with her kids there...not really knowing who you were or what you were about?

Bit reckless on her part wasnt it?...you could have murdered the lot of em! nothing personal..it could be anyone else..it could have been me many many years ago when I met a woman at a party who did the same thing...the only difference was that her lad was 13 at the time..but she didnt bother getting a sitter for him!!..when I realised I left...and gave her a swerve.

As 'game4it' said...its all down how desperate some people are just for a shag I guess..

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By *amschwingerzCouple over a year ago

West

"Iv had fbs that are mothers, even a girlfriend (kinda) and so had to have lots of sex when the kids are in bed, im sure thats acceptable.

So cant see a difference in that and having a few friends round?"

I think theres a massive difference...imagine if the kids came down and opened the door and theres ten people heaving and seething on the floor..

I cant see how anyone could relax knowing that their kids could wake up crying etc etc and ruin the evening...surely people can plan their sex lives around their kids?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Totally agree there it's all down to considerations. My kids would come 1st always sex can be planned baby sitters arranged. It's not hard is it? If I found out during a meet the kids were upstairs I'd be out of there. That's me. I need to relax with sex that would make me not relax x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't want this to look like I am picking out just one poster as a few have said the same thing...but Katie.....how do you know your children don't hear you?

If my kids heard the older ones would say and younger ones knock on the door...

WIth master I'd stop, go settle them back to bed then we would carry on a little quieter...

I have had a normal party before..ie music, laughter and not had kids wake up... so really unlikely to wake during play.

HOwever, if they did they can not get in the room. AS I said... due to a friend, my kids got asked about "men" visiting by social services..... they thought they meant two of my best mates, that pop over... there was no mention of other men coming upstairs. etc..... so I know they are fine...

Irony, the person that reported me has guys back she meets at the pub or off adult dating sites.... her daughter see's different "uncles" often..... and that I see as far more risk.

I would never have a gangbang with my kids... but also do not have the option of sitters... as no family or friends that can have them all at once...

When kids are little, they don't understand what they hear.... and I am sure mine haven't... and if they did would assume it was master and i.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Meant with my kids in the house obviously. Lol

KAtie x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally i dont agree with having people who are strangers in the house when kids are in bed,its just wrong on so many levels...

When my kids were younger i had to arrange my meets around them being at school or weekends when they were at the ex husbands,it wouldnt even enter my head to invite someone round for sex whilst the kids were asleep upstairs...

Katie,i think you are being nieve(spelling sorry) that you think your kids wont know whats going on,kids see things and hear things they know a lot more these days earlier than we did and know a lot more too x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Personally i dont agree with having people who are strangers in the house when kids are in bed,its just wrong on so many levels...

No..I am not naive.. at all.. I know my kids.. and when did I ever say its strangers.. I meet guys but they dont come here till not strangers.. not by myself..

We also have regular meets.. and we are talking one or two guys here.. (not even at once)

I always use our bedroom.. if they heard a thing.. they would assume it was us.. I dont have group fun while they are there..its no diffrent to me having a guy over that I know from other places..

If I actually waited till I had a baby sitter, then it would be never..... I am happy with my decision.. and my kids are happy, and never want for anything.

If I ever worried about it I wouldnt do it for one minute..

Do I think my older ones think I have sex from time to time.. yes... do they have any idea its with someone other than the Man they know I love.. then no..

Katie. x

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I don't want this to look like I am picking out just one poster as a few have said the same thing...but Katie.....how do you know your children don't hear you?

If my kids heard the older ones would say and younger ones knock on the door...

WIth master I'd stop, go settle them back to bed then we would carry on a little quieter...

I have had a normal party before..ie music, laughter and not had kids wake up... so really unlikely to wake during play.

HOwever, if they did they can not get in the room.

When kids are little, they don't understand what they hear.... and I am sure mine haven't... and if they did would assume it was master and i.

I have taken out the non relevant bits to your post as I don't want it being a platform for you to use against someone else...but just to say if I thought anything untoward was going on in a household that I thought harmed a childs welfare I would report it too and let SS check it out.

But back to what I asked...I still think children hear more than us parents think and I think it is naive of parents to think otherwise.

Our children are grown adults now, and have said as much, even though we thought we were being as quiet as we could, they still knew and got woken up by us at times.

I don't think that should stop parents having sex, but if we had been playing these games then, we would not have been playing at home and that would have been one reason why.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am going to add one last thing to this as my Stance is clear..

but these things I wanted to make crystal clear.

My kids always come first..

We are very good at keeping things from the kids attentions.. Can you imagine some of the things that we get up to within the bdsm side of our relationship..Yet the kids dont have a clue.. and I do mean total clue.. Except they know I have a collar.. but they think its a necklace.. but they know its special and I never ever take it off.

There are days that maybe we got a little energetic with rougher play.. the kids again know nothing. Mummy is aching from over doing it at the gym etc.

Yes kids are very clever, never underestimate them.. but I also know that they are in the dark on this.

I would never put my kids at risk..and that includes from rumours if people were to see people "popping in" at all times.. hence we dont do the group play in the day as often as we would like..

I got asked why I dont go out and get a baby sitter.. but that isnt a possibility.. and its been mentioned before on here.. but my average meet is 35mins.. thats in and out time..

Its not like its for hours and hours..

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't want this to look like I am picking out just one poster as a few have said the same thing...but Katie.....how do you know your children don't hear you?

If my kids heard the older ones would say and younger ones knock on the door...

WIth master I'd stop, go settle them back to bed then we would carry on a little quieter...

I have had a normal party before..ie music, laughter and not had kids wake up... so really unlikely to wake during play.

HOwever, if they did they can not get in the room.

When kids are little, they don't understand what they hear.... and I am sure mine haven't... and if they did would assume it was master and i.

And if you read all my posts you would see a so called friend did that.. and they looked into it QUESTIONED my kids at great length..and I was actually worried their questioning would raise more questions from my clever kids.. but luckily it didnt..

My kids made it clear that they had no clue..And I am talking full on investigation here as my ex friend made some pretty horrendous allegations... but it was all shown to be fine..and I admitted exactly what I was up to.. They were happy that my kids were not in any risk, and that their welfare was not damaged... Advised to keep it that the kids did not see lots of men all the time... and that I was careful who I let in... and that was that....

We play at about 10pm.. my kids go to bed at 7..and asleep by 8.( yes including the 14 year old..( she has medical reasons that means she is asleep at that time)

They dont even see me get ready.. and in case of the worst happening.. I have pjs by the door..

So I think for 30mins to an hour, they are really not going to notice Mum is doing anything else than locked away in her room..

I accept that kids hear things.. but I am happy for now to accept that mine arent. AS the 10 year old gets older I may have to rethink.. but for now.. he sleeps like the dead..As do all my kids.. and as to I heard my mother.. I hear a pin drop when I am sleeping.. and spend lots of time even now waking up over the slightest noise..

I would love to be in a situation to ahve the kids out the house for a night.. but my ex doesnt have more than the youngest.. and I have no family within 120 miles... So its just not going to happen.

Katie.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You read all sorts in the papers and on the news now about people making friends with people to get to there children on diffrent sites.. You never know maybe someone here reading this post and reading ... Theres children around and thay find way of getting friends but its not you but the kids thay are after....and alot think ooo never be us ... Some strange people out there and you just never know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don't you get a baby sitter I'd like to think no one would play with kids in the house.

What a horrible thing. We all need sex but your kids needs are 1st"

agreed.....i mean, you would never expect parents to have sex so why should you expect others to have sex.

sex after having children should be outlawed....until the children have left home at least...and even then, when they visit....shouldn't be done.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You read all sorts in the papers and on the news now about people making friends with people to get to there children on diffrent sites.. You never know maybe someone here reading this post and reading ... Theres children around and thay find way of getting friends but its not you but the kids thay are after....and alot think ooo never be us ... Some strange people out there and you just never

know. "

You never do..... I would never let someone around often enough to get close to my kids..

I have a male friend that I have known for 10 years.. It took me ages to allow him to take my son out to the park.. because I was paranoid.. I spent some time at uni where we looked at child sex offenders.. we had to listen to reports from children that had been abused.. it was the most awful thing I had ever heard in my life..

My address isnt even given out till about 5 mins before meeting them.. they get to my local supermarket and ring me from there.. No meet ever has a reason to be pals with my kids..

Will of course be different with someone that we form a poly relationship with.. but thats different altogether.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sex come last when my kids was small .. Never would i have had people around and never did. I know its each to there own here .... But when thay was small was the last thing on my mind ...shagging people when thay was in bed. Mum and dad had them some weekends and that was our time .. and a local lady we had know years would come in 1 or 2 hours that worked ok for us.

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By *inktherapyCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

I won't have anyone here - that's why our profile says 'can't accom'. Our children range in age from 13 - 1. I have been repeatedly asked by men if they can come over when the kids are in bed - and it's always a resounding 'no' - in the same way that I've always refused to go to someone's house if there are children asleep there (even if small enough to be asleep in a cot) - it's something I'll check beforehand if I think there's a possibility that that's the case. If I discovered it whilst there I'd go back home.

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By *roovytwoCouple over a year ago

burnley

"Hi guys

just wondering the general concenus (sp) of meets at home when you have a young family?

No we wouldnt be able to relax,we have declined playing when this has happened to us in the past.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!

Very little gets my blood boiling, but this thread does. I have avoided it until now because even title winds me up. I have ventured in, only because I noticed so many others have 'braved it' .... I'm so glad I did as I can see most of you have got the common sense to avoid mixing recreational sex with your young families/kids.

We would never ever dream of bringing playmates into our home if children were present fast asleep or not. There simply is no excuse for it.

I am usually a bit of a fence-sitter to be honest, and like to see where everyone is coming from... this subject has me stood firmly on the side of the folk that respect the innocence of their children.

Every argument/reason that has been thrown up by people that bring swinging sex into the same house/flat/whatever as their children can be blown apart with the following...

Babysitters/childminders it's not rocket science to be able to find ones that will happy to take your children into their homes for the duration of your fun. If you are struggling and you can only find childcare that means your kids will have to stay at home then find playmates that will meet you at theirs (provided they have arranged childcare away from the home if necessary), at a club, in a hotel or wherever.

I'm not going to apologise for this..... If you enjoy entertaining adults sexually in the same house as your sleeping or wide awake children (never assume a child is sleeping... do you remember convincing your own parents that you were sleeping when you were little???)... then you are very selfish and thoughtless. Imagine how you would have felt as a child if you worked out mommy, daddy or both were having sex with anyone else other than each other? Fuck me... it was bad enough when it dawned on me my mom and dad had sex at all.

I couldn't even begin to imagine how we would feel if our kids ever found out we were swinging... let alone under the same roof as the one they were supposed to be tucked away sleeping under, probably mortified.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

without copying the above post...no way would i see my children out of their own home so i could have sex in it!

that seems more selfish to me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sorry Katie but wearing a collar in the house with kids around is beyond me.

Cats and dogs wear collars humans don't and children will know that.

I'm not having a go but imagine what you'd think at parents day when a teacher asks why you wear a collar.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"without copying the above post...no way would i see my children out of their own home so i could have sex in it!

that seems more selfish to me

Babysitters have been known to look after children in their own home... even family members could pop round to watch over them whilst you have a bit of fun... or is it way too risky for the babysitter/family member to find out.... but it's ok for your children?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sleeping or wide awake children (never assume a child is sleeping... do you remember convincing your own parents that you were sleeping when you were little???)... yes i remember doing that alot ... mum would go down to sitting room and me and my sister would play Ispy or pack my bag.. for a hour or so after she was thinking we was a sleeping .. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry Katie but wearing a collar in the house with kids around is beyond me.

Cats and dogs wear collars humans don't and children will know that.

I'm not having a go but imagine what you'd think at parents day when a teacher asks why you wear a collar."

Probably the same as if he asked you why you wear a bra and miniskirt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry Katie but wearing a collar in the house with kids around is beyond me.

Cats and dogs wear collars humans don't and children will know that.

I'm not having a go but imagine what you'd think at parents day when a teacher asks why you wear a collar.

Probably the same as if he asked you why you wear a bra and miniskirt"

Janelle doesn't have kids....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry Katie but wearing a collar in the house with kids around is beyond me.

Cats and dogs wear collars humans don't and children will know that.

I'm not having a go but imagine what you'd think at parents day when a teacher asks why you wear a collar."

HAve you seen my collar??? And I won't hijack this thread but I've been asked and I've answered honestly... its a special item from my Master to me. Only thing I don't do is call my Master, master in front of the children. We have other terms....

To those in the lifestyle, being collared and owned is even more than being married... so why would I hide it.

Katie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry Katie but wearing a collar in the house with kids around is beyond me.

Cats and dogs wear collars humans don't and children will know that.

I'm not having a go but imagine what you'd think at parents day when a teacher asks why you wear a collar.

To those in the lifestyle, being collared and owned is even more than being married... so why would I hide it.

Katie "

Is that your collar in the pic? If it is I can see that it is very discreet and I wouldn't have really noticed it enough to pass comment if you walked past me in the street.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No I don't have kids but I know what is right and what's wrong

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Is that your collar in the pic? If it is I can see that it is very discreet and I wouldn't have really noticed it enough to pass comment if you walked past me in the street."

Yes It is... and its worn all the time. is never ever removed.... its also locked on..... and if I do get asked I find most people then ask more...

Open and honest is best way to be...

Katie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier"

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling.

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling."

And some might just do what they want to do in the knowledge that they know their own family better than anyone else from a swingers site.

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling.

And some might just do what they want to do in the knowledge that they know their own family better than anyone else from a swingers site.

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

"
yes your opinion you have a right to that as so do we. x As a mum of 4 now older this would never never be .... meeting at home with my young kids in bed .. i was 6 i new things .. people think children are think and have not a clue ... well thay have alot more then you know ....from 6 i new alot of things ..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling."

it takes a lot of effort to play at home. I'm always on cam so need to be home. I wish we had the option of babysitters but all on a school night its not going to happen..

I know as my son gets older we will have to rethink, but for now it works for us...

I wouldn't like to meet at someone elses house, seeing as I only meet single men.

I will admit, I went to a house party years ago and was shocked when a 2 year old came down looking for his mum.... letting kids see or even risking them seeing is not good.... hence it never happens here...

I don't need people to agree with me as noone knows my kids better than I do.

Katie

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sorry Katie but wearing a collar in the house with kids around is beyond me.

Cats and dogs wear collars humans don't and children will know that.

I'm not having a go but imagine what you'd think at parents day when a teacher asks why you wear a collar.

Probably the same as if he asked you why you wear a bra and miniskirt"

If I had kids then I wouldn't dress like this like most tvs I know who are fathers that's for play time only when the kids are not around.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"without copying the above post...no way would i see my children out of their own home so i could have sex in it!

that seems more selfish to me

I use babysitters all the time, they're no longer a novelty.

however, i would not imagine sending my children to their house to sleep!

that seems unreasonable. my children are very young...why should they have a fraught night in a strangers house so i can have sex?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling.

And some might just do what they want to do in the knowledge that they know their own family better than anyone else from a swingers site.

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

I bet you were the only child that slept through the night from the day you were born right up to the day you left your parents (if you have done so) without waking up because of noise/needing a wee/nightmare/feeling unwell. Super human I'd call it.

The above is, of course, my own assumption!

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling.

And some might just do what they want to do in the knowledge that they know their own family better than anyone else from a swingers site.

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

yes your opinion you have a right to that as so do we. x As a mum of 4 now older this would never never be .... meeting at home with my young kids in bed .. i was 6 i new things .. people think children are think and have not a clue ... well they have alot more then you know ....from 6 i new alot of things .."

As a dad of 2 (yeah I do have kids too) and seeing as I was a kid once myself I do know how it works

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im with Jo on this,im also a mum of 3,my kids safety come first and i would never want to scar them with memories of their mum having sex with strange men whilst they were in bed.

Kids are not stupid,they know more than i ever knew when i was younger,people might think its ok the kids wont hear/see how do you know 100% that they havnt heard or seen anything,a mum or dad is hardly going to ask if they saw mum with a strange man last night the same as a child isnt going to ask mum or dad why was mum having sex with a strange man?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling.

And some might just do what they want to do in the knowledge that they know their own family better than anyone else from a swingers site.

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

As a dad of 2 (yeah I do have kids too) and seeing as I was a kid once myself I do know how it works

And you should know kids do silly things all the time have needs like us .... could be having bad dreams and come looking for you ... need to go to the bath room ... need a drink ...... need a cuddle ... theres just no telling when you put them down to sleep . If i was playing thay come in asking me for things i was playing god i would Die ...... now older away at un and things .. i know its hard for young familys little money and pleasing other people at times the mum thinks what about me ... its not easy.

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

I meet most weeks and i never use my home, its more than possible to have meets off here without using your home or turfing your kids out

Some people just dont want to make the effort or spend the money and would rather invite people round while their kids are in bed because its just easier

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Some cant make the effort .. When can just be at home open door and no cost and no travling.

And some might just do what they want to do in the knowledge that they know their own family better than anyone else from a swingers site.

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

The above is, of course, my own assumption!

Sorry to burst your bubble but my dad is dead so I am afraid I can't still be staying with him - It's not always good to make assumptions

And seeing as I was the youngest of six kids it wasn't always easy to get to sleep in the first place never mind staying asleep - again assumptions aint always correct!

Whereas an opinion, like mine, is always correct to me!

The easy solution to all this is -

* If you want to do it, do it

* If you don't, then don't

Again, just my own wee opinion

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I don't want this to look like I am picking out just one poster as a few have said the same thing...but Katie.....how do you know your children don't hear you?

If my kids heard the older ones would say and younger ones knock on the door...

WIth master I'd stop, go settle them back to bed then we would carry on a little quieter...

I have had a normal party before..ie music, laughter and not had kids wake up... so really unlikely to wake during play.

HOwever, if they did they can not get in the room.

When kids are little, they don't understand what they hear.... and I am sure mine haven't... and if they did would assume it was master and i.

Katie. "

I did read your posts, and I also said they were not relevant to what I was asking so why I didn't include them in my reply to you and I didn't wish you to use my post as a platform to keep mentioning it.

If you have a problem with your friend reporting you, I think you should take it up with her.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'VE just rang my eldest, now 19 and asked him...

He knows now and actually had a nose around this site with his girlfriend...

His words..." you never played in the house when I was home, did you?"

So no kids don't always notice... my lifestyle is a choice I'm happy with.... both the sex, the bdsm side, and the fact that both of us are actively looking for poly partners... eventually a 3rd person will be included and the kids will be fine as it will be introduced properly.

Kids aren't stupid, but It's possible to live a very kinky and sexual lifestyle without it damaging them....

PArenting is all about what works for your family..... and I know my kids well. My parents never hid their fun side... I just never realised till I left home and grew up just how adventurous my parents were.

I've got happy well adjusted kids... and I intend to keep it that way.

Katie. X

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have never heard such sanctimonius shite in a long time...thank you for the laugh.

well its no laughing matter when kids are around even a sleep and strange people in the house .. friends boy friends yes. But alot dont really know the ins and outs of people lifes here just chating in cyber space .. its a risk .. and alot are willing to take that just for a shag."

And here was me thinking that sex was the most natural thing in the world!

Now I find that if you are a single mum, you should go out of the house to have sex incase the kids hear...or know mum is having sex. After all it is only acceptable if you have a partner to have it in your own home!

Chalk me down as a bad mother who didnt realise sex was so taboo!

Funny though that I have been a swinger for many years and a Dominatrix for twice as long and all my children knew from an age where they were old enough to understand and ask questions. I have never lied to them.

Even stranger that they are now not rocking in the corner of a mental institution from knowing mum has sex, but are actually the most non judgemental kids you could meet.

Rather than thinking sex, swinging, kinky antics and the like are something that should not be talked about, they actually accept that people have different outlooks on sex and that all of it is perfectly acceptable.

Now how the fuck did that happen!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"without copying the above post...no way would i see my children out of their own home so i could have sex in it!

that seems more selfish to me

I use babysitters all the time, they're no longer a novelty.

however, i would not imagine sending my children to their house to sleep!

that seems unreasonable. my children are very young...why should they have a fraught night in a strangers house so i can have sex?!"

Let me get this right... You use babysitters in YOUR home whilst having sex in YOUR home? That still doesn't make me believe it's right.

....and who ever thought that babysitters are a 'novelty'. There is nothing 'novel' about making sure your kids are safe and well looked after!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"why should they have a fraught night so i can have sex?!"

I've taken liberty with the editing of your post: the above just seemed apt!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"without copying the above post...no way would i see my children out of their own home so i could have sex in it!

that seems more selfish to me

I use babysitters all the time, they're no longer a novelty.

however, i would not imagine sending my children to their house to sleep!

that seems unreasonable. my children are very young...why should they have a fraught night in a strangers house so i can have sex?!

Let me get this right... You use babysitters in YOUR home whilst having sex in YOUR home? That still doesn't make me believe it's right.

....and who ever thought that babysitters are a 'novelty'. There is nothing 'novel' about making sure your kids are safe and well looked after!

that's a huge wide sweeping assumption...i've never even commented on how i have sex and what the set up is in or out of my home.

you suggested that folk sent their children to someone else's home...i asked why that was any more considerate to your child than any of the other scenarios.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

....and who ever thought that babysitters are a 'novelty'. There is nothing 'novel' about making sure your kids are safe and well looked after!

My kids are always safe, their wellbeing always my prime concern.. And whose to say while your leaving the kids with your babysitters that the baby sitter is up to no good.. have you screened and police checked your baby sitter.. you know I would worry more about that.. than whether my kids may here a noise and wake up..and knock at the door.

They would certainly never see me even in a state of undress with another man..

Some people on here choose to do this because its their choice, its their kids, their house, and they feel better playing that way.. its not for all but same as its not for all to play with married people, some only look for women, some just want a guy for their guy.. some want dominating, some submitting too.. we all find different ways of playing..

Some of us like how we do.. quick meets and would never have a guy spend the night.. or cuddle up in bed after.. it would feel so wrong I can not even begin to explain.. yet some actually enjoy that..

Do I think I am a bad parent for enjoying my life like this.. No, as my kids always come first. If I got interupted I would do the same as I do when Interupted by kids with Master.. get up, shove my pjs on, go settle the kids.. but then apologise and get them out rather sharpish..

I know my kids well enough to know that they will be fine.. as they get older I will answer any questions they ask.. as I did with my oldest.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

"Sorry to burst your bubble but my dad is dead so I am afraid I can't still be staying with him - It's not always good to make assumptions

And seeing as I was the youngest of six kids it wasn't always easy to get to sleep in the first place never mind staying asleep - again assumptions aint always correct!

Whereas an opinion, like mine, is always correct to me!

The easy solution to all this is -

* If you want to do it, do it

* If you don't, then don't

Again, just my own wee opinion

No bubble to burst in the first place.

I said 'parents'... your dad is dead, so is mine... I don't mention it every time someone says 'your parents'.

When I said 'I bet you were the only child' I wasn't talking about 'your family circumstances' I was talking about every child in the world.... damn assumptions are a pest aren't they???

"'And seeing as I was the youngest of six kids it wasn't always easy to get to sleep in the first place never mind staying asleep - again assumptions aint always correct'....."

Aren't the parents who opt for recreational sex under the same roof as their kids 'sleeping' making assumptions??? Kids sometimes find it difficult to get to sleep, let alone remain asleep.

"The easy solution to all this is -

* If you want to do it, do it"
I will so long as my children aren't at risk of having their innocence damaged in any way shape or form.

"* If you don't, then don't"
Trust me, if I don't I won't!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No ones saying your a bad parent for doing this it's just your _iews on this are different to say my _iews. As I said before maybe I'm old fashioned maybe it's my strict upbringing (believe it or not)

I didn't know nowt about sex and never had my 1st wank til I was 15. That's only cause I found my older brothers porno mag. Sex wasn't discussed in our family

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

....and who ever thought that babysitters are a 'novelty'. There is nothing 'novel' about making sure your kids are safe and well looked after!

They would certainly never see me even in a state of undress with another man..

I know my kids well enough to know that they will be fine.. as they get older I will answer any questions they ask.. as I did with my oldest.

Katie. x

Katie, anyone who looks after our kids are police checked. Only registered childminders are considered. If we were going to get totally paranoid about who has care of our kids, then we will stop sending them to school.

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"There are lots of clubs and hotels about now days

The above is, of course, my own opinion!

Sorry to burst your bubble but my dad is dead so I am afraid I can't still be staying with him - It's not always good to make assumptions

And seeing as I was the youngest of six kids it wasn't always easy to get to sleep in the first place never mind staying asleep - again assumptions aint always correct!

Whereas an opinion, like mine, is always correct to me!

The easy solution to all this is -

* If you want to do it, do it

* If you don't, then don't

Again, just my own wee opinion

No bubble to burst in the first place.

I said 'parents'... your dad is dead, so is mine... I don't mention it every time someone says 'your parents'.

When I said 'I bet you were the only child' I wasn't talking about 'your family circumstances' I was talking about every child in the world.... damn assumptions are a pest aren't they???

'And seeing as I was the youngest of six kids it wasn't always easy to get to sleep in the first place never mind staying asleep - again assumptions aint always correct'.....

Aren't the parents who opt for recreational sex under the same roof as their kids 'sleeping' making assumptions??? Kids sometimes find it difficult to get to sleep, let alone remain asleep.

The easy solution to all this is -

* If you want to do it, do it I will so long as my children aren't at risk of having their innocence damaged in any way shape or form.

* If you don't, then don't Trust me, if I don't I won't!

OK I've read back your post and yeah you were making assumptions about me in particular; as you were answering my post just like I answered yours.

I will now leave you to backtrack all by yourself!

Happy swinging in whatever way you choose to do it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me get this right... You use babysitters in YOUR home whilst having sex in YOUR home? That still doesn't make me believe it's right.

....and who ever thought that babysitters are a 'novelty'. There is nothing 'novel' about making sure your kids are safe and well looked after!

that's a huge wide sweeping assumption...i've never even commented on how i have sex and what the set up is in or out of my home.

you suggested that folk sent their children to someone else's home...i asked why that was any more considerate to your child than any of the other scenarios."

You have mentioned your kids not sleeping at someone else's house, I didn't mention anyone's kids sleeping at anyone's house... but you threw it in as an assumption!

The point I am trying to make is.... if you are trying to win 'the best parent of the year award' you aren't going to gain many points for doing your swinging fun under the same roof as your kids. However, finding registered/none risky childcare for your kids under your roof (so long as you are using the front door to pop yourself off for your shag) or you drop your kids off at the registered/none risky childcarers house whilst you have your shag will go down a little better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It does not make you a bad parent to do what those of us on here are doing.. its just a different choice from yours..

and lets face it.. non swingers will think we are all risking damaging our kids.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me get this right... You use babysitters in YOUR home whilst having sex in YOUR home? That still doesn't make me believe it's right.

....and who ever thought that babysitters are a 'novelty'. There is nothing 'novel' about making sure your kids are safe and well looked after!

that's a huge wide sweeping assumption...i've never even commented on how i have sex and what the set up is in or out of my home.

you suggested that folk sent their children to someone else's home...i asked why that was any more considerate to your child than any of the other scenarios.

You have mentioned your kids not sleeping at someone else's house, I didn't mention anyone's kids sleeping at anyone's house... but you threw it in as an assumption!

"Babysitters have been known to look after children in their own home...!

i use registered childcare for my children...in fact i go one better than that, i use the girls from my childrens nursery so they know who they are and spend a lot of time with them.

the only people who come into my home are friends.

i have a lot of male friends that come and stay too...in a non-sexual way...my children are not confused by this either.

my remarks were generalised as i NEVER single a person out for judgement...my response to you was generic.

at no point did i say "my situation is thus..."

i'm certainly not giving you any means into which to judge me....i'm sure that the good lord himself holds you up as perfect role models, but there are others that may judge you on a lesser level....i just find it incredible that we judge other users of this site as if our moral groundings are better than the next persons....

and no, i'm not looking for a Parent of the Year Award...there are only two people in this world that can judge me in that respect...you are certainly not one of them...neither is anyone else on this site

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

def no go for me what ever age they r .all about morals i have 2 many to do that am afraid .......ok when kids r out for night do what you like and enjoy it .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OK I've read back your post and yeah you were making assumptions about me in particular; as you were answering my post just like I answered yours.

I will now leave you to backtrack all by yourself!

Happy swinging in whatever way you choose to do it.

Hey! There was no actual assumption made directly at you. I took the piss a little saying you were super human assuming (tongue in cheek) that you were the only child to have slept through every night... you came back at me and told me this wasn't the case... thus proving the point I am trying to make. KIDS ARE NOT ALWAYS ASLEEP WHEN YOU THINK THEY ARE/SHOULD BE.

I will be happy swinging... free from the risk of my offspring walking in on a naked person taking a piss in my house ***see rest of thread to confirm this can and has happened

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"OK I've read back your post and yeah you were making assumptions about me in particular; as you were answering my post just like I answered yours.

I will now leave you to backtrack all by yourself!

Happy swinging in whatever way you choose to do it.

I will be happy swinging... free from the risk of my offspring walking in on a naked person taking a piss in my house ***see rest of thread to confirm this can and has happened

Oh dear!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but there are others that may judge you on a lesser level...."

For having morals that protect a child's mind?.... may I go to hell???

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

"Hi guys

just wondering the general concenus (sp) of meets at home when you have a young family?

We wouldn't, not even with a baby there who has no idea what's going on, we wouldn't feel comfortable at all. Z

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but there are others that may judge you on a lesser level....

For having morals that protect a child's mind?.... may I go to hell???

you took that totally out of context to suit your response.

imaginative, but hardly how to carry a debate forward....unless my comment carried so much validity you were unable?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Having a young child means we can't play very often - does that worry me - No. We are very fortunate in that my parents have our daughter overnight every Monday evening - as such if we want to play we try and arrange it for - yes you guessed it Monday nights! This has upset people on occasions as their best times to play are weekends - if we can get a babysitter on a Fri/Sat night great, if not we wouldnt dream of having anyone round here whilst she was in bed. I have also cancelled planned meets when my daughter has changed her mind about staying out - on the whole people have been understanding - all those who havent have been blocked.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This post hasn't turned out to be what I thought it would. My ( our stance) is never ever play when children are around. Reasons why have all been put very well in above comments. We have had a couple of dodgy meets where this has happened including a couple who wedged a chair up at their kids door to stop them getting out... Needless to say we made our excuses and left.

I think the posts put by Katie though are on a completely different level ie the Poly family scenario. I personaly dont associate this lifestyle with swinging at all, really not too keen on reading that kind of thing.

Happy that my kids are safe and can 100% say they will never or have ever been compromised because of our lifestyle choices. No strange aunts or uncles or regular friends let alone new mamas or papas

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but there are others that may judge you on a lesser level....

For having morals that protect a child's mind?.... may I go to hell???

you took that totally out of context to suit your response.

imaginative, but hardly how to carry a debate forward....unless my comment carried so much validity you were unable?"

Please point me in the right direction as I am totally lost at what you were trying to get at... in fact don't bother... your words bore me to death if I'm honest.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but there are others that may judge you on a lesser level....

For having morals that protect a child's mind?.... may I go to hell???

you took that totally out of context to suit your response.

imaginative, but hardly how to carry a debate forward....unless my comment carried so much validity you were unable?

Please point me in the right direction as I am totally lost at what you were trying to get at... in fact don't bother... your words bore me to death if I'm honest."

a battle is lost when the fight gets personal.

good to see you're finally being honest though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don't you get a baby sitter I'd like to think no one would play with kids in the house.

What a horrible thing. We all need sex but your kids needs are 1st

agreed.....i mean, you would never expect parents to have sex so why should you expect others to have sex.

sex after having children should be outlawed....until the children have left home at least...and even then, when they visit....shouldn't be done."

And if an adult cannot conduct a little restraint to abstain from sex with strangers from a swinging website until their children are old enough to be in school or familiar enough to stay the night with friends or relatives then that adult needs to reassess their responsibilities and duty of care to that child.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but there are others that may judge you on a lesser level....

For having morals that protect a child's mind?.... may I go to hell???

you took that totally out of context to suit your response.

imaginative, but hardly how to carry a debate forward....unless my comment carried so much validity you were unable?

Please point me in the right direction as I am totally lost at what you were trying to get at... in fact don't bother... your words bore me to death if I'm honest.

a battle is lost when the fight gets personal.

good to see you're finally being honest though. "

Still none the wiser as what you were trying to say!!! I remain bored and you may continue thinking you have won some battle that never existed in the first place.

Oh BTW... you say it is good to see I'm finally being honest.... I am ALWAYS honest... especially when I say that I get bored with certain people who have NO valid point in what they have to say

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"You don't you get a baby sitter I'd like to think no one would play with kids in the house.

What a horrible thing. We all need sex but your kids needs are 1st

agreed.....i mean, you would never expect parents to have sex so why should you expect others to have sex.

sex after having children should be outlawed....until the children have left home at least...and even then, when they visit....shouldn't be done.

Oh Dear!

A little over the top saying that! But that's just my opinion again

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don't you get a baby sitter I'd like to think no one would play with kids in the house.

What a horrible thing. We all need sex but your kids needs are 1st

agreed.....i mean, you would never expect parents to have sex so why should you expect others to have sex.

sex after having children should be outlawed....until the children have left home at least...and even then, when they visit....shouldn't be done.

Oh Dear!

A little over the top saying that! But that's just my opinion again

And what you deemed to be over the top is my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its fine if you have the option of people having the kids.. I have never had that option.. no family, no friends that would take all my kids.

but even so.. I dont see a thing wrong with it.. and neither do social services...

Its a different choice..and you know even if I didnt play the way I did.. I still wouldnt condemn those that chose to play with kids there.. as its no different to having a new sexual partner in any other way.

Would I let my kids see me with a play partner.. No... Yes I guess on occassion they may hear me in the throws of passion, but they are used to hearing that.. as a lot of kids will be..

Its a normal thing, its not like getting d*unk while your kids are in bed..

Everyone parents differently.. for me a parent that smokes is terribly irresponsible.. but that there choice.. not mine..

Kids dont fall apart because their parents have sex.. and trust me, they dont notice that its someone else.. unless they see it.. I never lock my kids in, I lock them out of my room.. Same as I do every night.. (even when totally alone)

If my youngest wakes in the early hours, she shouts me from her room.. My middle one will knock on the door.. and the oldest..well if she woke up ever in the night I would be so stunned..

Most of my evening meets are with people we have meet several times before.. and for me I feel safer meeting at my home..

I dont have the luxury of babysitters..Children do change things.. but for me that means having no parties or wild group sex with them here.. that I safe for clubs or daytimes...

You cant start telling people they are a bad parent for doing something normal... Parents have sex.. thats as much as most kids will ever know.. the whos, whats and where... are not their concern.. Kids learn to not bother mummy and daddy.. or of course as they get older may think its amusing.. as they have worked out that the special cuddle and kiss.. can cause amusement with a sudden knock on the door from kids..

I was 14 and I knew my mum had boyfriends and what she was doing.. came home from school early a few times.. I would just find it amusing to see my mums face.. They would stay upstairs hiding while my mum would try everything to get me to be away from the front door..

no mobiles then.. so she couldnt even text and say.. safe now go.. lol

Didnt bother me.. it was something I knew my mum did..and figured it was a pretty normal part of what adults did..

Be it anything in your lifestyle, its possible to keep the details from everyone else.. Kids included.. they may know I am perhaps having sex late at night.. but thats the most they would know.

My kids at home are 14,10 and 4... its the 10 year old thats my biggest concern..as he is a boy and recently had sex ed at school.. and asks about everything.... now for me, that was to early.. but if I had refused him, his mates would have given him their version of sex ed.

Katie. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Sounds like you have all the bases covered Katie I'm just wondering if you are and have been so careful to keep your lifestyle away from your kids what they will think when mummy II comes along? Will it just be 2 lovely mums to cook and clean or will your kids then have to adjust to mummy 1 door ok to go because daddy's in with mommy 2 ?

If this is your real aim in life I fail to see why you're contributing to this thread saying how careful you are when you're planning long term to live an unconventional lifestyle right in your kids faces. Then again your answer earlier about asking your 19 year old his opinion says it all......

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I won't quote the above as its a long post but....I truely hope that your children are happy and grow up to be rounded individuals with an understanding of society from the way you've brought them up.

I also hope that my children are the same from the way I have and will continue to bring them up.

We all do what we feel is right for our children. I just do it differently to the way you do. And there is a very personnal reason as to why that is.

My children do not need to know who I have sex with or why. What they do need to know though is that as their mum I keep our home for us. For them. As a home and as a safe environment where they do not need to worry that a stranger will take the wrong door on the landing and find their bedroom. They do not need to worry about the noises coming from wherever incase that stranger is hurting mummy.

I love sex, but I'm perfectly willing to abstain while my children are at home. I can go to a club for my kicks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I've not read all of the posts on here but I have a 13 yr old. I won't even answer my phone if its a "friend" off here if he is in the house - let alone have somebody to the house while he is in.

We are all different and what suits some doesn't suit others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Sounds like you have all the bases covered Katie I'm just wondering if you are and have been so careful to keep your lifestyle away from your kids what they will think when mummy II comes along? Will it just be 2 lovely mums to cook and clean or will your kids then have to adjust to mummy 1 door ok to go because daddy's in with mommy 2 ?

Who said it will be a mummy two??? And why would I not ask my 19 year old.. he is grown up, he has come to me for advice on things.. He has tried 3sums with his girlfriend, and knows he can come to me for anything. He painfully embarressingly for him, asked me if I knew anything about spanking as his g/f had asked.. I directed him to the right places for advice. Didnt make him feel silly..

Everyone can say this is right, this is wrong.. but what matters at the end of the day, is happy kids.... if I thought for one moment, that my kids were at risk of that changing.. I would gladly not play with them here.. but at present.. its not a problem, but its something we constantly reevaulute..

as to my lifestyle being unconventional.. my kids will always know they are happy and loved.. and that I am happy and loved and looked after.. At the end of the day..

That to me is what matters.

katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I've not read all of the posts on here but I have a 13 yr old. I won't even answer my phone if its a "friend" off here if he is in the house - let alone have somebody to the house while he is in.

We are all different and what suits some doesn't suit others.

Same here and my son is 23, in fact i get tired of guys wanting to ring me so i often ignore the text/message when they ask

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Slightly off tangent!

We are certainly all different.

I'm just remembering the conversation I had with my 19 year old last week before she went back to uni. I pulled back the covers and said "lie down an cowey upin" - translation: "lie down and cover up" that's what she used to say when she was a toddler and wanting to snuggle up in our bed. We'd all snuggle up and watch cartoons. I was calling her to "lie down an cowie upin" to watch "Arthur" on CBeebies...don't ask!

She smiled, sighed, and jumped in with the admonition "you do know mum, this will have to stop!" I said "I know...but not today hey?"

She's 19, living away from me in Derby, an adult. She giggles when she tells me her dad still calls her at 10pm to tell her it's time for bed. She "indulges" us, knows as the "baby" we want to hold on to that as long as possible.

She phones her father and I if she's going to the pub/club etc so we wont worry if she doesn't answer straight away. We tell her there's no need, but she does anyway, as she knows we do worry about her. (She's had major health issues).

I'm more likely to walk naked through Clapham Junction train station in rush hour than it would be for me to discuss my sex life with my 19 year old: it would be inappropriate.

She discusses sex with her father and I - our kids know they can ask us anything, and they have, but there are certain things they don't want to ask mum and dad - she's told me she asked her sisters about having sex for the first time etc.

Being open and approachable is important to me, I can do that without rubbing my sex life in my children's faces.

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By *hitecumloadsMan over a year ago

cannock

Well im single and live on my own if I ever want a meet I always like to travel I dont like people coming to me I dont like people in my house that I dont realy know 100% I have a little girl of 1 and would never meet when I was looking after here to me its just not right

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

If they are very young children, have a routine, can't just get up and start walking around and it's a reasonable sized house.... I don't think it's that big a deal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I personally dont think its right. Shudder when I read verifications where the people have introduced their children after one night of swinging with someone. but as i said thats just my personal opinion

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I personally dont think its right. Shudder when I read verifications where the people have introduced their children after one night of swinging with someone. but as i said thats just my personal opinion"

and I will totally agree with you. The one person that has met one of my children, was over for a coffee and a chat..and I have met him on numerous occassions, and even went to a social meet with him..

and the only reason that happened was we decided to meet earlier.. so we could have a good chat and coffee...

Its another reason that on the whole I dont do the whole.. chat first, stay after bit.. but in and out..

Katie. x

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By *hocotreacleWoman over a year ago

lost in the city of Atlantis

Its not for me, I have young kids and I simply don't meet at home.

Its my personal space and I like to keep it that way. I would have to trust someone implicitly to invite them into my home and even that is no guarantee of safety for my kids for so many reasons already mentioned.

I am fairly open with my kids about all things sexual when they ask, however I also believe in being an example for them and this means setting some boundaries for myself and for them.

When I opted to have them I did so knowing I would have to give certain things up and I am perfectly happy with that. They fill that void and more; so I don't miss all the independence and freedom. I am no longer a single person who can do as I please just because I want to and thats ok as far as I am concerned. I have to take them into consideration now and so far it hasn't affected my swinging life as there are other options.

That being said, this is a free....ish world (well we like to think it is anyway)and we are all adults and can make our own decisions. I am not here to judge anyone, so each to thier own but as I said earlier, personally it's not something I would do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its just we are the adults the mum or dad and we have to make decisions and keep our children safe from all things out there .... Thay need there childhood and thay dont need sex and things around them even in there teens as most will be looking to have normal sex lifes and looking for that specile someone ....We cant take that away from them ...

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

" Its just we are the adults the mum or dad and we have to make decisions and keep our children safe from all things out there .... They need their childhood and they dont need sex and things around them even in their teens as most will be looking to have normal sex lifes and looking for that special someone ....We cant take that away from them ..."

I doubt very much that anyone is trying to take that away from their own kids by doing it or not doing it when they are there.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

the way we look at it is this how many of you dont have sex till your little one has left home ????

as long as you know the ppl you are playing with the children are young and not running round the house whats the difference.

some of us are in situations that make finding sitters hard are you saying we should not swing ???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I doubt very much that anyone is trying to take that away from their own kids by doing it or not doing it when they are there. "
well my own children have boy friends and girl friends see that as normal and would not wish things to do with sex or nothing in there faces .. thay know about me and john but happy its away from them ... thay have there own values ... just how it should be x

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

"the way we look at it is this how many of you dont have sex till your little one has left home ????

as long as you know the ppl you are playing with the children are young and not running round the house whats the difference.

some of us are in situations that make finding sitters hard are you saying we should not swing ???"

You do what YOU are happy with, that's the bottom line.....answer to no-one else and you will enjoy your swinging experience all the more.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"the way we look at it is this how many of you dont have sex till your little one has left home ????

as long as you know the ppl you are playing with the children are young and not running round the house whats the difference.

some of us are in situations that make finding sitters hard are you saying we should not swing ???

You do what YOU are happy with, that's the bottom line.....answer to no-one else and you will enjoy your swinging experience all the more.

totally agree...there are far more ways to let your children down than your sexual preference.

my aunt was a swinger and used to walk around her own home naked...nothing i would personally approve of, but knowing her children as adults now they're not traumatised by the event

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For the most part people are just saying what is right for them and their family.

Goes to show we can agree to disagree without it turning into a free for all!

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By *utumnWoman over a year ago

leeds

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

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thats shocking

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

oops.......... was shocking

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By *utumnWoman over a year ago

leeds

Friend from here went to a couples hoouse, noticed kiddy's toys around, asked if children were out....reply "no but we've phenerhan'd them up so they wont disturb us"

Exit friend to make a call to social services

home life / swinging life = totally seperate for me

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"Friend from here went to a couples hoouse, noticed kiddy's toys around, asked if children were out....reply "no but we've phenerhan'd them up so they wont disturb us"

Exit friend to make a call to social services

home life / swinging life = totally seperate for me"

terrible giving them that just to allow playtime..

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By *utumnWoman over a year ago

leeds

sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add"

And it works too knocked me out for about 12 hrs the once

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The tablets not the syrup one for kids

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add"
my god that is just so bad doing that to there children , I heard of people locking them in there rooms .. but this.. my god x

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By *oupleup4funCouple over a year ago

Ashton

"Friend from here went to a couples hoouse, noticed kiddy's toys around, asked if children were out....reply "no but we've phenerhan'd them up so they wont disturb us"

Exit friend to make a call to social services

home life / swinging life = totally seperate for me"

Thats not swining that child abuse... Its stories like that, that gets the NoTW salivating!!!

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

"sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add my god that is just so bad doing that to there children , I heard of people locking them in there rooms .. but this.. my god x"

omg wot sort of people could do that to their children ... and all for a shag ... sorry but would go without sex 1st .. the lenghts some people go to still amaze me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add my god that is just so bad doing that to there children , I heard of people locking them in there rooms .. but this.. my god x

omg wot sort of people could do that to their children ... and all for a shag ... sorry but would go without sex 1st .. the lenghts some people go to still amaze me "
it Amazes me too ..... for a shag.

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By *he_original_poloWoman over a year ago

a Primark shoebox in Leicester

As with many things in life and not just swinging, some people will make stupid choices and show themselves to be the thick, selfish, scumbag arse-wipes they are.

However, this doesn't mean every person will make stupid fuck for brains choices.

There will be people who choose to meet whilst their young children are in the house after much rational thought, who will be sensible about their choice and take the appopriate sensible precautions.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add my god that is just so bad doing that to there children , I heard of people locking them in there rooms .. but this.. my god x

omg wot sort of people could do that to their children ... and all for a shag ... sorry but would go without sex 1st .. the lenghts some people go to still amaze me "

it's not just sex they do it for...it's a well known rouse that parents use to get a 'quiet' night.

i remember at a mothers and toddlers group once the women were quite brazenly discussing their preferred method of antihistamines they would use on their children for a peaceful night...i was equally appalled and they tried to justifying it by saying it was doctor prescribed.

please do not associate swinging mothers with this alone...there are lots of women do this.

i don't approve and agree it shouldn't be allowed. i doubt there's actual research done on the long term affects on doing this to a child

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

"sorry I made a spelling mistake which might be more shocking!! and I've made another!!

Phenerghan is an antihistamine that causes drowsiness I should add my god that is just so bad doing that to there children , I heard of people locking them in there rooms .. but this.. my god x

omg wot sort of people could do that to their children ... and all for a shag ... sorry but would go without sex 1st .. the lenghts some people go to still amaze me

it's not just sex they do it for...it's a well known rouse that parents use to get a 'quiet' night.

please do not associate swinging mothers with this alone...there are lots of women do this.

i don't approve and agree it shouldn't be allowed. i doubt there's actual research done on the long term affects on doing this to a child "

i whole heartly agree it not just swinging mothers/fathers that do this, i dont agree with medicated children for the sake of it .. unless the child needs it for a medical reasons

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I do beg to differ on a lot you have said regarding this and not just you as we have a young family both under 3 yrs old... they asleep in bed by 5.30pm... what family time can we have then with them ? when they are asleep this is our time to have "us time"..... some ppl arnt blessed with child minders baby sitters or family close by that can look after them ..... on a similar note i take it that all the ppl that have said no way its wrong etc dont have next door neighbors? how would they feel if there kids heard ?? seems like a few ppl have jumped on a bandwagon..... we take every step in safeguarding our children and always take time in meeting ppl not once have they woke hear or saw anything they shouldn't off !!!!

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

"I do beg to differ on a lot you have said regarding this and not just you as we have a young family both under 3 yrs old... they asleep in bed by 5.30pm... what family time can we have then with them ? when they are asleep this is our time to have "us time"..... some ppl arnt blessed with child minders baby sitters or family close by that can look after them ..... on a similar note i take it that all the ppl that have said no way its wrong etc dont have next door neighbors? how would they feel if there kids heard ?? seems like a few ppl have jumped on a bandwagon..... we take every step in safeguarding our children and always take time in meeting ppl not once have they woke hear or saw anything they shouldn't off !!!!"

It's just not something we'd consider doing, children do wake up, they even cry sometimes, and I just wouldn't be able to handle that in a sex swapping situation! Z

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's in bad taste.

Meh, thank god Im not the maternal type. Kids wreck everything!

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