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"Spoiling" someone - is it prostitution?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes? |
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By *iewMan
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Yes |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No, more like bribery. And I still wouldn't shag him.  "
Oh god, do we have to get philosophical now?
What's the difference between prostitution and bribery? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
No, its just an improved offer  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Umm yeah, obviously. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"No, more like bribery. And I still wouldn't shag him.
Oh god, do we have to get philosophical now?
What's the difference between prostitution and bribery?"
Because I'm not a prostitute. I think to prostitute yourself there has to be an intent to shag someone for money, whether its voluntary or not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes if you then agree to shag him
What if it's a her?"
Yes if you agree to shag her....my reasoning is you declined on personal preference and only conceded when an incentive is offered. |
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Yep.
And when I see "I want a man who will treat me like a princess before I go to bed with him", I can't help think about her kissing all those frogs first...
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Every time it involves them wanting me to give them money |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
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Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards? "
Are you also watching channel 4 and it's KFC filth? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards?
Are you also watching channel 4 and it's KFC filth?"
No, I was thinking of bernie sanders which made me think of colonel sanders... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards?
Are you also watching channel 4 and it's KFC filth?
No, I was thinking of bernie sanders which made me think of colonel sanders..."
Well, that's reasonably obscure... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Yes.
Bx |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If the only reason i was having sex with them was because i wanted something from them and i gained something from it other than a pleasurable time, then yes that is prostitution in my opinion. |
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Well no, the person who said no thankyou isn't asking for anything, its the other person doing the offering..
If the no thankyou person then says yes then they are excepting an offer.
Prostitution is asking for stuff
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it was the Bloodhound gang who mused "a lap dance always better when the stripper is cryin'".
"Oh i find it such a thrill,
when she grinds me against her will...."
Who would want to have sex like that?
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards? "
If they can eat a whole bucket without sharing it then I'm not sure I'd want their offer in the first place! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People used to get married all the time for financial reasons - Bronte novels are full of it - some people probably still do - so what's the difference?"
Tact? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards?
If they can eat a whole bucket without sharing it then I'm not sure I'd want their offer in the first place!"
I can eat a whole KFC bucket.
Still 5ft tall and skinny. Just got hollow legs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards?
If they can eat a whole bucket without sharing it then I'm not sure I'd want their offer in the first place!"
I wasn't suggesting they have the whole bucket to themselves, we're not made of money you know |
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards?
If they can eat a whole bucket without sharing it then I'm not sure I'd want their offer in the first place!
I can eat a whole KFC bucket.
Still 5ft tall and skinny. Just got hollow legs."
Hollow legs and skinny or not surely you couldn't do the 10 piece bucket! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No its transactional sex
What's the difference between 'transactional sex' and prostitution?"
In my eyes?..none
Transactional sex is when a gift is given in exchange for sex.. A bit like a sugar daddy type scenario
Prostitution is when a set pre determined sum of money or gift is exchanged for sex |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think it was the Bloodhound gang who mused "a lap dance always better when the stripper is cryin'".
"Oh i find it such a thrill,
when she grinds me against her will...."
Who would want to have sex like that?
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Yes it was. Possibly the least tasteful song ever, but very funny |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If she has sex with him on the promise of receiving things then yes.
Nah that's just called marriage"
For people who have to be bought to have sex then yes it is I guess |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I get asked this at least once a week on here so even get shitty when I still say no thank you and suggest there on the wrong site maybe they need AW then call me a slag and block me before I get to give them any shit back lol  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I get asked this at least once a week on here so even get shitty when I still say no thank you and suggest there on the wrong site maybe they need AW"
Yeah but where is the fun in paying a professional? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think it was the Bloodhound gang who mused "a lap dance always better when the stripper is cryin'".
"Oh i find it such a thrill,
when she grinds me against her will...."
Who would want to have sex like that?
Yes it was. Possibly the least tasteful song ever, but very funny "
Bloodhound gang are hardly known for their tasteful and PC lyrics |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Had this the other way round plenty of times on here 'I'll have sex with you if you 'spoil' me'
Offer to treat them to a KFC bucket afterwards?
If they can eat a whole bucket without sharing it then I'm not sure I'd want their offer in the first place!
I can eat a whole KFC bucket.
Still 5ft tall and skinny. Just got hollow legs.
Hollow legs and skinny or not surely you couldn't do the 10 piece bucket! "
I have done in the past.
Oh the shame... |
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"Had this before. Reported but still here
But I suspect there may be a difference between 'in our eyes' and 'in the eyes of the law'."
Prostitution is not technically illegal in the uk, however there are related activities such as soliciting in a public place etc that are. |
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Yes, like a form of grooming I'd say.
Although some have a fetish for buying people stuff, but still if you accept material goods or cash in exchange for sex .. It's prostition. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Sorry for got to say I believe there is nothing wrong with prostitution as no one is forced into it. I have known meany of escorts . I don't have the balls to do it as I like to pick who I have sex with and be attracted to them |
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"Had this before. Reported but still here
But I suspect there may be a difference between 'in our eyes' and 'in the eyes of the law'.
Prostitution is not technically illegal in the uk, however there are related activities such as soliciting in a public place etc that are. "
Sorry, I worded it badly, when I said "in the eyes of the law" in relation to still being on the site, I meant "admin/the mods".
In my mind Ruggers, DG, Jez and the new ones, are always swaggering down a dusty, wild-west street, with their guns slung low, looking mean and asking me if I feel lucky*
(* yes I know that's Dirty Harry) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Say you are out in a club and someone is eyeing you up, they sidle over and say how about it?
You decline but agree they can buy you a drink, then one turns to two and so on til you are so d*unk you will agree to anything and they ask you again... Is that prostitution? No it's a night out in Manchester |
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"Sorry for got to say I believe there is nothing wrong with prostitution as no one is forced into it. I have known meany of escorts . I don't have the balls to do it as I like to pick who I have sex with and be attracted to them "
It turns women into disposable commodities so.. There definitely is something wrong with it. Many European countries that legalised have been hit with scandals involving forced prostitution and trafficking ..
Before someone hits back with.. What about male prostitutes.. The same sentiment stands.
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Don't judge anyone that does it, only the men who visit them and perpetuate the commerce of misogyny. |
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I think that if goods or services are directly exchanged for sex then it is effectively prostitution.
Oddly I have refused sex when offered it in return for giving a friend an old laptop I didn't need. I've taken money for sex acts.
Nothing wrong with it if everyone is consenting. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Don't judge anyone that does it, only the men who visit them and perpetuate the commerce of misogyny."
And the women who visit them.
I'm not ashamed to talk about the fact I've paid for sex from men and women. |
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"Don't judge anyone that does it, only the men who visit them and perpetuate the commerce of misogyny.
And the women who visit them.
I'm not ashamed to talk about the fact I've paid for sex from men and women."
We're not going to agree on this issue, worked within a certain charity that helps victims of prostitution. I'm not satisfied there is such a thing as a acceptable less damaging variety of it for those that work within it. |
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"Had this before. Reported but still here
But I suspect there may be a difference between 'in our eyes' and 'in the eyes of the law'.
Prostitution is not technically illegal in the uk, however there are related activities such as soliciting in a public place etc that are.
Sorry, I worded it badly, when I said "in the eyes of the law" in relation to still being on the site, I meant "admin/the mods".
In my mind Ruggers, DG, Jez and the new ones, are always swaggering down a dusty, wild-west street, with their guns slung low, looking mean and asking me if I feel lucky*
(* yes I know that's Dirty Harry)"
Haaaaa I can visualise that now.... |
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I have a few friends who have worked as independent escorts - several women and one man. I'd say that to my knowledge two suffered psychological damage from which they did recover and the rest suffered no damage. It's certainly not without risks.
I've dabbled and enjoyed it but it's never been something I have done because I needed to. The opportunity arose and I decided to take it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Yes.
Sex in exchange for a reward. |
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"Don't judge anyone that does it, only the men who visit them and perpetuate the commerce of misogyny.
And the women who visit them.
I'm not ashamed to talk about the fact I've paid for sex from men and women.
We're not going to agree on this issue, worked within a certain charity that helps victims of prostitution. I'm not satisfied there is such a thing as a acceptable less damaging variety of it for those that work within it. "
So you would outlaw one of the oldest professions known for exactly one reason that it seems to you uncontrollable, yet what of those that work in that profession happily? |
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My _iew is that it is clear there is demand and people willing to fill that demand. De-stigmatise sex work and bring it (relatively) out into the open...that way the sex workers are better protected and anyone treating them badly is more likely to be caught.
But of course that would probably lead to the tabloids discovering exactly which politicians visit which sex workers.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
I paid someone £20 to shag me
He isn't a prostitute
We were role playing |
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"My _iew is that it is clear there is demand and people willing to fill that demand. De-stigmatise sex work and bring it (relatively) out into the open...that way the sex workers are better protected and anyone treating them badly is more likely to be caught.
But of course that would probably lead to the tabloids discovering exactly which politicians visit which sex workers...."
And those that may keep the odd pig around for certain politicians to visit......  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Not far off. It's just payment with gifts not cash. |
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"Don't judge anyone that does it, only the men who visit them and perpetuate the commerce of misogyny.
And the women who visit them.
I'm not ashamed to talk about the fact I've paid for sex from men and women.
We're not going to agree on this issue, worked within a certain charity that helps victims of prostitution. I'm not satisfied there is such a thing as a acceptable less damaging variety of it for those that work within it.
So you would outlaw one of the oldest professions known for exactly one reason that it seems to you uncontrollable, yet what of those that work in that profession happily?"
We're not going to agree, many specious sounding seemingly plausible arguments can be made in favour .. Based on my experience helping men and women that have worked within it, it's not worth any form of material riches that can be given.
That's my opinion, you are of course entitled to yours. |
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"Don't judge anyone that does it, only the men who visit them and perpetuate the commerce of misogyny.
And the women who visit them.
I'm not ashamed to talk about the fact I've paid for sex from men and women.
We're not going to agree on this issue, worked within a certain charity that helps victims of prostitution. I'm not satisfied there is such a thing as a acceptable less damaging variety of it for those that work within it.
So you would outlaw one of the oldest professions known for exactly one reason that it seems to you uncontrollable, yet what of those that work in that profession happily?
We're not going to agree, many specious sounding seemingly plausible arguments can be made in favour .. Based on my experience helping men and women that have worked within it, it's not worth any form of material riches that can be given.
That's my opinion, you are of course entitled to yours. "
I admire anyone who will give their time to those that become victims in life it's commendable and I understand fully your point of _iew.
It is a very complex issue and I for one could not begin to resolve it, I personally think it cannot be controlled or made safer for those that work in that industry no matter how impose legality on it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Yes.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes. No. Maybe.
I don't care much.
If I wanted to shag them I'd have agreed before the offer. The offer of spoiling me wouldn't make me change my mind."
Spoil sport! There isn't much I wouldn't do for £1,000,000 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No, more like bribery. And I still wouldn't shag him.
Oh god, do we have to get philosophical now?
What's the difference between prostitution and bribery?"
I would base it on who approaches who....? Maybe? Like prostitutes solicit for it!? |
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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago
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Sex is a very powerful currency.
If I was attracted to someone and they wanted to 'spoil me' I'd enjoy it.
It's not prostitution.
If however I wasn't attracted to them and it was only on the promise of some gain.. then it becomes a transaction .
Transactions happen all the time. For money. For promotion. For special favours. For revenge. Or just because they can
Good luck to them.
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Yes if it changes the original decision made which was no. The morality of it really depends on your _iew of the situation.
Get out clause is if the "gift" is insignificant and this is some form of elaborate role play ? |
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Silly question to ask as payment for services doesn't have to be money payment takes all forms. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
Whether someone gives sex for money or for things that would hold monetary value is irrelevant to us, it's all prostitution.
Sex, in our eyes, is for one of two things; Love or pleasure and often both. I would say that anyone seeking sex here is more than likely doing it for the pleasure, but they should not be doing it for any kind of payment, in cash or goods and services. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?
Silly question to ask as payment for services doesn't have to be money payment takes all forms. "
I don't really think it's a 'silly' question. I think it's interesting to get peoples opinions on how they feel about it. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"Say someone approaches you and you say 'no thank you'.
And then they say 'will you have sex with me if I spoil you with things you want?'
Is that prostitution in your eyes?"
That would depend on what is meant by "spoil you with things you want" if it means he will do whatever sex acts you want to turn you one then no.
If he means he will buy you presents or meals etc. to get you into bed then yes. |
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To expand on this question.
A guy buying a mail order bride is often seen by society as a 'sad loser' explointing the disparity in wealth. An ageing rich star doing the same and marrying a much younger girl (who wouldn't have looked at him twice without the money) is ofted feted in the media. Why does society _iew them differently and is this prostitution? |
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Natural urge/lust/want is much much better
