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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Hi guys, I am looking for some help and advice to open my wife up to the idea of the swinging lifestyle. She is 40, tall and slim. I am just would not cope with it. I have discovered I am bisexual, she would just not cope with that at the moment. She knows I have fantasies about her fucking other men, she does have a somewhat inner slut (one of the things that attracted me to her) and has had, through the marriage, a few "secret" daliances with other guys (nightclub, guy, mates house or outside the club) and other similar things over the years. Other thing involving more a serious attraction developed, and I am keen to let my wife

know that having sex with other guys is OK with me, fulfills a need in her anmd will not lead to a serious affair / divorce.

I don't want to go into the details of the plan yet, but it will, I hope if all goes well, involve fucking my wife with stamina, skill and expertise. May or may not work, contact me and I will have a chat with you about it. I am hopefull that she will then be more open to new ideas.

OK, not putting a photo of my wife on her - against the law. There is a place on the web that you can see some picks, will let you know if I believe you are genuine.

Describe her - tall, long shapely 34" legs that wrap right around your back when you are fucking her , when she is not afraid of making noise (i.e hotel) she really lets go and orgasm's like a train, pushing her pussy hard up and down in your face (she loves being licked) and holding your head tight against it when she grinds your face into her pussy and bucks and arches when she comes - I love watching / feeling her. Dress size 14 (when I say she is tall, she is tall!) Size c -d boobs, a gorgeuos body, greatkisser, softest lips, sweetest tasting pussy and extreemely sensitive nipples, - she did once confess during sex that she would like a mouth lcling her pussy and one licking her nipples -my goodness mew she would come like a juggernaut. She gives head to die for, loves to swallow, sexy, pretty eyes, and a great wanking technique - sorry girls most women I have been with are not so good. She definitly has an inner slut, a few glasses of wine and it begins to come out. To see her dressed in a bodystocking, I tell you I did not loose me erection all night. Dressed in an evening / cocktail dress - she looks like the sort of woman that most

vanilla wives would be worried about, cauase the hubby would be mentally undressing her!

Anyway, guys, contact me if you think you can help, you need to be VERY good looking, muscled etc - I am certainly not, but I am the hubby and I might be wrong but she will want a bit of totty so to speak. Hence - photos a must!Can sort pictures after chatting iif you like, not a male picture collector don't worry.

OK, and anyone esle out there, male or female, that has any advice I would appreciate it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

dont know if its just me but i would say you need to sit dowsn and talk to her about it and see if its what she wants before you start telling all the guys how big her tits are, how she cums and asking them to mail you for meets

or are you just after dirty messages

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

erm...you need to open the lines of communication here , whilst i understand it is your desire to watch your wife being pleasured, and indeed that is a very loving ideal , your wife may be horrified to learn of your desires and feel totally against what you are proposing , end of the day , you already know her views on things , there is no advice any of us can give which would be of benefit, unless her mind is already open to such ideas, it is difficult for a woman to understand this genuine desire you have for her pleasure with permission, depending on your background and moral compass she may have never ever even entertained the idea before.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"dont know if its just me but i would say you need to sit dowsn and talk to her about it and see if its what she wants before you start telling all the guys how big her tits are, how she cums and asking them to mail you for meets

or are you just after dirty messages "

. Funny, I read this and thought, hello, someone has woken with a horn and looking for wanking material to knock one off before work!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Fair points guys - to make myself more clear she will, at all times, be informed of the situation. I however am the sort of guy who needs to research any project I do. I.E if no guys are interested, unlikely it will happen. Rather deal with guys off here as most understand the score (i.e sex is sex and love marriage is different. However, I am open to any advice - only an idiot does not consider all points, and I may be totally wrong in my approach?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

No, not after dirty messages, couldn't sleep all night (insomnia) so I am all wanked out - normally helps me sleep. Wife is normally very obliging in that respect but she was getting cramps .

Yes , probably a bit too descriptive, it's a FAULT OF MINE!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

PPS - too descriptive, I think she is stunning and sex on long legs, and love her to bits

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By *harpDressed ManMan  over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"PPS - too descriptive, I think she is stunning and sex on long legs, and love her to bits "

...is that why you don't feature her on your profile?

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By *harpDressed ManMan  over a year ago

Here occasionally, but mostly somewhere else


"if no guys are interested, unlikely it will happen. Rather deal with guys off here as most understand the score "

Someone on here will take part - that's the point of the site.

Consider that part confirmed, now for the tricky bit...asking the lady.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you were my partner, I'd kick you out then start up my own profile....What a horrible thing to do - it's not your project, it's meant to be something you do together as a couple.

She'll be devastated if you ever do tell her what you've been up to, I'm telling you now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you were my partner, I'd kick you out then start up my own profile....What a horrible thing to do - it's not your project, it's meant to be something you do together as a couple.

She'll be devastated if you ever do tell her what you've been up to, I'm telling you now."

I thought the use of the word "project" inappropriate in this instance too!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Just seen his profile, if he's telling the truth he's had fun with 2 lovely ladies already..guessing one isn't the wife.

I hate cheats. Sorry. Mate, she'll find out - I did. And she'll kick you out if there's any justice in the world. I did.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Am I getting this right your gonna put pictures of your wife up on the net to see if other men are interested or did I read it wrong? If not that's a crazy ass idea if you ask me. I'm sure if she wants to do that she will so let her do it. As for being bi and giving is war and peace about it then you need to tell her, she maybe ok with you shagging other women if she knows but shagging other men maybe a different matter.

I would say your confused, yes the missus may have had dalliances but was it sex or just a snog?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fair points guys - to make myself more clear she will, at all times, be informed of the situation."

Informed? Your gonna "inform" your wife that she will be having sex with other men? If you were my husband, I would inform you of the name of a good divorce solicitor.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

a very intyeresting thread and bikerbud you certainly got a variety of understandable replies especially from the ladies but i have to agree you need to be careful about how you phrase things.

if your wife looks at fab then thats a start

if there is a bloke she likes meet for a coffee in a cafe,afterall nothing can happen there and when you go home discuss her feelings etc with your wife

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Fair points guys - to make myself more clear she will, at all times, be informed of the situation.

Informed? Your gonna "inform" your wife that she will be having sex with other men? If you were my husband, I would inform you of the name of a good divorce solicitor. "

I, on the other hand, would be informing you a rough grid loc for the field I'd dumped your stuff in.

If you want to try it, talk to her BEFORE you do this. Oh and you want to hope she never stumbles across your profile and see's your status.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For God's sake talk to her about it! My hubby used to keep stuff from me, and it was only to his detriment!

If you are honest, she can only say no, but will thank you for being honest. That's how I finally agreed to start swinging! And have not looked back!

Other than that, if you put pix on the net without her knowledge, that is such an invasion of her privacy, and she may not forgive that.

Just talk.....

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By *ensualfire88Man  over a year ago

Edinburgh

Better idea.

I'll fuck your wife.

Then talk to her about whether she'd like you to watch us fuck sometime.

Or not.

That way, you dont get into trouble.

She gets fucked.

I get a fuck.

Everyones happy.

And, if you're really lucky, you get to watch me fuck her.

Properly.

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By *y_funcoupleCouple  over a year ago

SHEFFIELD

WTF................??

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Posted full history, then removed it as it looked like I was appologising which I am not. Put simply, she fucks other men, I know she does and she knows I know. She also knows I see other people. Seperate parts of our lives at mo. Put simply, I would like to see them together.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ah, that makes it all ok then!

Even if she fucks other men, still don't even think about splashing her over the net without her permission - you'll find it's not what the site's about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I sure as hell wouldn't play with someone I was informed that I had to and certainly not someone I was not involved in choosing.

I think your living in clouds. Be honest with yourself this is more about your pleasure than hers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Posted full history, then removed it as it looked like I was appologising which I am not. Put simply, she fucks other men, I know she does and she knows I know. She also knows I see other people. Seperate parts of our lives at mo. Put simply, I would like to see them together. "

You put it so nicely too, and I thought romance was dead.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Posted full history, then removed it as it looked like I was appologising which I am not. Put simply, she fucks other men, I know she does and she knows I know. She also knows I see other people. Seperate parts of our lives at mo. Put simply, I would like to see them together. "

Ok..so you have communicated enough to have an "open" relationship..??? then swinging together..surely thats an easy topic to discuss..???

Or are you both just really bad at sneakily cheating on each other behind each others back..??? and know each other is doing it.. and know each other know..and just dont talk about it...??? Guy..thats a bit sad and strange...and is that making either of you happy..???

Blimey..swinging together seems like a less radical relationship threatening option than an "open" relationship....or one when you are both burying yours heads in the sand.. shagging other peeps...and ignoring the "elephant in the room".

Or is all of this just happening inside your own head..do you really have a partner at all...???? as your O.P did read like a bit of a "Reader's Wive's Wank fest to be honest

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Posted full history, then removed it as it looked like I was appologising which I am not. Put simply, she fucks other men, I know she does and she knows I know. She also knows I see other people. Seperate parts of our lives at mo. Put simply, I would like to see them together.

You put it so nicely too, and I thought romance was dead. "

I agree, have a look at my first post, tried my best, but failed so I thought OK lets just try very plain speaking.

Sharp dressed man pointed out that I don't feature her on my profile - I was not explicit in saying that is becuase we have, up to now, always done our own thing with other people. Reasons behind it are complicated as it is a situation that has evolved, she is not comfortable about discussing this aspect of her life in detail. This has been going on long before we got together, through previous partners. When her first found out he started beating her.

I found out later on,that is a long story in itself but we ended up with a sort of uneasy understanding and oblique communication between us - again, very complicated.

To be honest, outside of this site and even with my wife I not comfortable, yet, about being totally open about my bisexuality - still being somewhat confused about it myself!! (why is it acceptable for women? what is bi-curious?.... that's another subject )

Through our oblique and methods of communication on the subject she has agreed to consider the possiblity, and I repeat only the possibilty, of us actually, openly, playing as a couple.

Time pressures (work etc) mean that something has to give.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I didn't mean just splashing her picture. I mean the whole situation. Swinging as part of a couple is something you enter in to AS A COUPLE. Something you talk about, explore the sites, write a profile together, look together at people who might interest you and decide on things you'd like to try together.

It's not something you take to a public forum, discussing she does this, she does that. I'd be mortified and mightily pissed off.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Posted full history, then removed it as it looked like I was appologising which I am not. Put simply, she fucks other men, I know she does and she knows I know. She also knows I see other people. Seperate parts of our lives at mo. Put simply, I would like to see them together.

You put it so nicely too, and I thought romance was dead.

I agree, have a look at my first post, tried my best, but failed so I thought OK lets just try very plain speaking.

Sharp dressed man pointed out that I don't feature her on my profile - I was not explicit in saying that is becuase we have, up to now, always done our own thing with other people. Reasons behind it are complicated as it is a situation that has evolved, she is not comfortable about discussing this aspect of her life in detail. This has been going on long before we got together, through previous partners. When her first found out he started beating her.

I found out later on,that is a long story in itself but we ended up with a sort of uneasy understanding and oblique communication between us - again, very complicated.

To be honest, outside of this site and even with my wife I not comfortable, yet, about being totally open about my bisexuality - still being somewhat confused about it myself!! (why is it acceptable for women? what is bi-curious?.... that's another subject )

Through our oblique and methods of communication on the subject she has agreed to consider the possiblity, and I repeat only the possibilty, of us actually, openly, playing as a couple.

Time pressures (work etc) mean that something has to give."

Complicated..??? NO its presents as simple.

You "partner".....clearly has issues from her past.

You clearly have conflicts with your sexual preferances and orientation..

Should you even be thinking about swinging at this point in time..???.

most peeps want to play with couples that are funloving.. complication and issue free...slightly worried that this would be a big DRAMA just waiting to unfold ...maybe all this should just remain your fantasy...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ok..so you have communicated enough to have an "open" relationship..??? then swinging together..surely thats an easy topic to discuss..???

Or are you both just really bad at sneakily cheating on each other behind each others back..??? and know each other is doing it.. and know each other know..and just dont talk about it...??? Guy..thats a bit sad and strange...and is that making either of you happy..???

"

Discussions and communication about this subject are not easy and not good between us - it's sort of as you say (ish) about I know she is, she knows I am etc but with a slow gain of understanding, maybe? Sad and strange? maybe. Burying heads in the sand? Probably. Swinging is less radical and easier - it is for me, I am on this site now!!

Happening inside my own head? - Readers wives wank fest? I recommend Liter**ica for good, well written erotic fiction stories, unfortunatly this one is real. . Readers wives wank fest - err, is that an insult or a compliment?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


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Complicated..??? NO its presents as simple.

You "partner".....clearly has issues from her past.

You clearly have conflicts with your sexual preferances and orientation..

Should you even be thinking about swinging at this point in time..???.

most peeps want to play with couples that are funloving.. complication and issue free...slightly worried that this would be a big DRAMA just waiting to unfold ...maybe all this should just remain your fantasy..."

OK, an accurate insight on my partner but I am not going to go into it on an open forum. Simple, not complicated - I suppose when you look at it that is also true. True about me . Drama in waiting - I don't know, maybe, it's a possibility. bugger!!!

Open to suggestions

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok..so you have communicated enough to have an "open" relationship..??? then swinging together..surely thats an easy topic to discuss..???

Or are you both just really bad at sneakily cheating on each other behind each others back..??? and know each other is doing it.. and know each other know..and just dont talk about it...??? Guy..thats a bit sad and strange...and is that making either of you happy..???

Discussions and communication about this subject are not easy and not good between us - it's sort of as you say (ish) about I know she is, she knows I am etc but with a slow gain of understanding, maybe? Sad and strange? maybe. Burying heads in the sand? Probably. Swinging is less radical and easier - it is for me, I am on this site now!!

Happening inside my own head? - Readers wives wank fest? I recommend Liter**ica for good, well written erotic fiction stories, unfortunatly this one is real. . Readers wives wank fest - err, is that an insult or a compliment? "

NEITHER...just a personal opinion..and I recommend DR Phil McGraw...Life Matters...excellant chaper on communication..

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Gonna leave this for a while and think. Thought I could get a way forward here, but you are right, it could be a time bomb. Insight appreciated, even if it may not be what I wanted to hear it is probably what I needed to hear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Gonna leave this for a while and think. Thought I could get a way forward here, but you are right, it could be a time bomb. Insight appreciated, even if it may not be what I wanted to hear it is probably what I needed to hear "

hey..just been on the scene for a while and seen that if a couple isn't solid together...or solid and self aware about themselves...with openess and honest at the core of their relationship then....things have the potential to go pretty wrong...good luck.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Gonna leave this for a while and think. Thought I could get a way forward here, but you are right, it could be a time bomb. Insight appreciated, even if it may not be what I wanted to hear it is probably what I needed to hear

hey..just been on the scene for a while and seen that if a couple isn't solid together...or solid and self aware about themselves...with openess and honest at the core of their relationship then....things have the potential to go pretty wrong...good luck.x "

hey its doctor phylis lol prople pay no attention to this lady she gave me advice the other day and I ended up getting a penis ring.lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Gonna leave this for a while and think. Thought I could get a way forward here, but you are right, it could be a time bomb. Insight appreciated, even if it may not be what I wanted to hear it is probably what I needed to hear

hey..just been on the scene for a while and seen that if a couple isn't solid together...or solid and self aware about themselves...with openess and honest at the core of their relationship then....things have the potential to go pretty wrong...good luck.x

hey its doctor phylis lol prople pay no attention to this lady she gave me advice the other day and I ended up getting a penis ring.lol "

Look the guys at A&E (once they had cut it off) said that when the infection clears up...and you get some partial circulation back...it might work again...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Gonna leave this for a while and think. Thought I could get a way forward here, but you are right, it could be a time bomb. Insight appreciated, even if it may not be what I wanted to hear it is probably what I needed to hear

hey..just been on the scene for a while and seen that if a couple isn't solid together...or solid and self aware about themselves...with openess and honest at the core of their relationship then....things have the potential to go pretty wrong...good luck.x

hey its doctor phylis lol prople pay no attention to this lady she gave me advice the other day and I ended up getting a penis ring.lol

Look the guys at A&E (once they had cut it off) said that when the infection clears up...and you get some partial circulation back...it might work again... "

lolol I give up you win this round lol that was a good comeback lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Gonna leave this for a while and think. Thought I could get a way forward here, but you are right, it could be a time bomb. Insight appreciated, even if it may not be what I wanted to hear it is probably what I needed to hear

hey..just been on the scene for a while and seen that if a couple isn't solid together...or solid and self aware about themselves...with openess and honest at the core of their relationship then....things have the potential to go pretty wrong...good luck.x

hey its doctor phylis lol prople pay no attention to this lady she gave me advice the other day and I ended up getting a penis ring.lol

Look the guys at A&E (once they had cut it off) said that when the infection clears up...and you get some partial circulation back...it might work again...

lolol I give up you win this round lol that was a good comeback lol. "

Mwah..ya know I love ya..Dr Phillis love it...I'm off my soap box now and off to bed with the Big Fella..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Complicated..??? NO its presents as simple.

You "partner".....clearly has issues from her past.

You clearly have conflicts with your sexual preferances and orientation..

Should you even be thinking about swinging at this point in time..???.

most peeps want to play with couples that are funloving.. complication and issue free...slightly worried that this would be a big DRAMA just waiting to unfold ...maybe all this should just remain your fantasy...

OK, an accurate insight on my partner but I am not going to go into it on an open forum. Simple, not complicated - I suppose when you look at it that is also true. True about me . Drama in waiting - I don't know, maybe, it's a possibility. bugger!!!

Open to suggestions "

You have already on an open forum I would hate my other 1/2 to be openly discussing me like this.

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