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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wouldn't worry so much about judgment from the vanilla community. There's far too much judgment already from WITHIN the community - just spend a day reading the forums  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wouldn't worry so much about judgment from the vanilla community. There's far too much judgment already from WITHIN the community - just spend a day reading the forums "
And absolutely this.  |
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"I wouldn't worry so much about judgment from the vanilla community. There's far too much judgment already from WITHIN the community - just spend a day reading the forums
And absolutely this. "
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"I wouldn't worry so much about judgment from the vanilla community. There's far too much judgment already from WITHIN the community - just spend a day reading the forums "
Absolutely spot on |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off"
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?"
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?"
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers."
No it wasn't. Try reading the second sentence. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers."
My apologies, I read the post incorrectly. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers.
No it wasn't. Try reading the second sentence. "
Although worth considering - gender isn't a sexual activity.
I don't consider being transgender anything like the choice of fucking twenty people a night... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sorry, its still the first sentence
"there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. "
There point was that even though we are judged harshly outside the scene there are people within judging too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Sorry, its still the first sentence
"there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. "
There point was that even though we are judged harshly outside the scene there are people within judging too."
Exactly this |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers.
No it wasn't. Try reading the second sentence.
Although worth considering - gender isn't a sexual activity.
I don't consider being transgender anything like the choice of fucking twenty people a night..."
But you never mentioned gender purely your clothes iirc.
You seem to switch between cross dressing and being transgender to asexual, to gender queer depending on the point you're trying make at the time.
Given many of them are opossed positions its getting confusing.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers.
No it wasn't. Try reading the second sentence.
Although worth considering - gender isn't a sexual activity.
I don't consider being transgender anything like the choice of fucking twenty people a night...
But you never mentioned gender purely your clothes iirc.
You seem to switch between cross dressing and being transgender to asexual, to gender queer depending on the point you're trying make at the time.
Given many of them are opossed positions its getting confusing.
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I'm sorry that my sexuality confuses you.
I'm genderqueer. That is a variation of being transgender.
Sometimes I crossdress too. None of those things are mutually exclusive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry, its still the first sentence
"there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. "
There point was that even though we are judged harshly outside the scene there are people within judging too.
Exactly this"
Its depressing but people will tend to try to validate thier choices by thier internal logic of "well we may X but at least we dont Y" we require somone to be beneath us to function.
Sorry for the appalling spelling btw I'm trying to get used to having auto correct off. Its much harder than i thought
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By (user no longer on site)
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers.
No it wasn't. Try reading the second sentence.
Although worth considering - gender isn't a sexual activity.
I don't consider being transgender anything like the choice of fucking twenty people a night...
But you never mentioned gender purely your clothes iirc.
You seem to switch between cross dressing and being transgender to asexual, to gender queer depending on the point you're trying make at the time.
Given many of them are opossed positions its getting confusing.
I'm sorry that my sexuality confuses you.
I'm genderqueer. That is a variation of being transgender.
Sometimes I crossdress too. None of those things are mutually exclusive."
Your sexuality doesnt confuse me youre constant switching of terms does is all.
But my main point was you made a snide remark that the op should look at the people theyre friends with when you have had the exact same experence they have had.
Youve been judged by people you expected to be safe around.
Yet instead of sympathy you show them hostility, why? |
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"Sorry, its still the first sentence
"there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. "
There point was that even though we are judged harshly outside the scene there are people within judging too.
Exactly this
Its depressing but people will tend to try to validate thier choices by thier internal logic of "well we may X but at least we dont Y" we require somone to be beneath us to function.
Sorry for the appalling spelling btw I'm trying to get used to having auto correct off. Its much harder than i thought
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Totally agree with this as some people feel the need to inhabit the higher moral ground in the swinging 'community' .... are, when called on their throw away comments, refuse to respond. They imply others are a type of sub-species for their choices and I hate that sort of attitude. I do think its linked to how people _iew others in real life too ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"After a few conversations both on here and with some people at club F tonight, it seams as though within the swinging community, that is constantly under judgment from the vanilla, there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. Is this really still a thing. If someone chooses to fuck 20 guys in one night or bend over and let anyone regardless of looks and age have their turn then that is their fantasy/kink and the should feel comfortable enough to experiment with it as long as everyone is 8n agreement.
Remember, one persons kink is another's vanilla and another's turn off
I've not experience that kind of judgement.
Perhaps some people need to consider changing their friendship circles?
But you've posted in the past you've faced extreme prejudice and even threats when you have attended swingers clubs crossdressed.
Would that not count as such judgement?
The original post was about judgement from non-swingers about swingers.
No it wasn't. Try reading the second sentence.
Although worth considering - gender isn't a sexual activity.
I don't consider being transgender anything like the choice of fucking twenty people a night...
But you never mentioned gender purely your clothes iirc.
You seem to switch between cross dressing and being transgender to asexual, to gender queer depending on the point you're trying make at the time.
Given many of them are opossed positions its getting confusing.
I'm sorry that my sexuality confuses you.
I'm genderqueer. That is a variation of being transgender.
Sometimes I crossdress too. None of those things are mutually exclusive.
Your sexuality doesnt confuse me youre constant switching of terms does is all.
But my main point was you made a snide remark that the op should look at the people theyre friends with when you have had the exact same experence they have had.
Youve been judged by people you expected to be safe around.
Yet instead of sympathy you show them hostility, why?"
Why? Because I misread the opening post.
Absolutely nothing more sinister than that. |
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Everyone judges everyone else. Whether positively or negatively.
A nice person can keep that judgement internal. Less pleasant people feel that everyone needs to know there opinion even when it's not asked for.
Truly nasty people give an opinion without invitation and expect others to do as they are told or else.
And that is my judgement on all of you.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If I understand the op correctly, he doesn't believe that swingers should ever condemn the sexual preferences of other swingers.
To this I would say it's a question of degree. For example, If I saw a woman being taken by 20 different men then I'd think nothing of it and say 'good for you, whatever floats your boat'. On the other hand, if the sex was bareback I would think her, and the men, dangerously irresponsible.
We're all human, and we all judge daily based on our individual standards and internal moral compass. Being a swinger means I'm probably more accepting and understanding of sexual preferences than the average vanilla, but it doesn't mean I have abandoned my sense of right and wrong. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think people feel bad about their sexual practices and point fingers at others they they think are worse than them,to make themselves feel better. Some feel they have to justify what they do and look down on others who do things differently. The people who frequent expensive hotels who think their sex is any different to someone who uses Travelodge for instance. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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No one is mentioning any health issues here but with that in mind. If someone wanted to take multiple guys bareback then that is for all parties involved to agree on. Everyone can make their own mind up regarding what is right for them. That girl taking 20 guys bare may well have spent months finding the right guys and going through meticulous health checks in order to fulfill her fantasy. The point is that no one knows what other people have done or think and as swingers we always have the option to not get involved if it's not to our taste |
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"Sorry, its still the first sentence
"there are still some people that are very judgmental of swinging/sexual preferences within the scene. "
There point was that even though we are judged harshly outside the scene there are people within judging too.
Exactly this
Its depressing but people will tend to try to validate thier choices by thier internal logic of "well we may X but at least we dont Y" we require somone to be beneath us to function.
Sorry for the appalling spelling btw I'm trying to get used to having auto correct off. Its much harder than i thought
Totally agree with this as some people feel the need to inhabit the higher moral ground in the swinging 'community' .... are, when called on their throw away comments, refuse to respond. They imply others are a type of sub-species for their choices and I hate that sort of attitude. I do think its linked to how people _iew others in real life too ...
I do think its linked to how people _iew others in real life too ..."
You need look no further than the bareback threads to see the posse saddle up an mount their moral high horses. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think people feel bad about their sexual practices and point fingers at others they they think are worse than them,to make themselves feel better. Some feel they have to justify what they do and look down on others who do things differently. The people who frequent expensive hotels who think their sex is any different to someone who uses Travelodge for instance. "
Classy Swingers. Bless 'em.  |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"The people who frequent expensive hotels who think their sex is any different to someone who uses Travelodge for instance. "
Travelodge and Etap have been very good to me over the years. As long as the bed doesn't collapse, jobs a good 'un. |
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