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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I understand u both... am sure many more do don't take notice hun xxx

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I understand u both... am sure many more do don't take notice hun xxx"

Seriously had a woman ask how the hell can I be controlled by a man..

its not as bad as those that send " Tell your Master I want to Abuse you"

Erm.. no piss off is the reply lol

Katie. x

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By *artin216Man  over a year ago

Spilsby

Please dont be concerned as to peoples assumptions, a few years ago i had no idea idea about the dynamics of dom/sub couples and i would have assumed similar thoughts to the ones you mention....ive since been educated on these dynamics, and i get it now....if anybody gives you grief about your lifestyle choices, its merely ignorance, rise above it and dont let it worry you....small minded people and all that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I understand u both... am sure many more do don't take notice hun xxx

Seriously had a woman ask how the hell can I be controlled by a man..

its not as bad as those that send " Tell your Master I want to Abuse you"

Erm.. no piss off is the reply lol

Katie. x"

Love being controlled by my man it makes me the woman I am - turns me on satisfies me I am submissive would not b any other way

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By *mcouple1Couple  over a year ago

nr warrington

being a collered sub is a big commitment on both sides and its not just about sex .

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By *itchfieldMan  over a year ago

Portsmouth


"Please dont be concerned as to peoples assumptions, a few years ago i had no idea idea about the dynamics of dom/sub couples and i would have assumed similar thoughts to the ones you mention....ive since been educated on these dynamics, and i get it now....if anybody gives you grief about your lifestyle choices, its merely ignorance, rise above it and dont let it worry you....small minded people and all that."

This is a fair point. Whilst there's no need for people to be abusive about your choice of lifestyle it's not one that many people know about. I think you need to learn a fair bit about BDSM before you can understand it.

I got some pretty horrible things said about my parents once by a woman who was convinced that being brought up a naturist meant I'd suffered through some kind of abusive childhood!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some don't, and never will, understand the dynamics of a D/s relationship.

I've had men ask me "so when will it be my turn to boss you around as you can't be in charge all the time!" I also get the "would love you to dress up in stockings while you whip me!" They confuse it with role play!

I can tell within two words of a message whether I'll explore meeting: "hiya sexy" or "love black" are not it!

A man's profession also serves as a pointer. I've found men in high flying jobs who are subs the most enjoyable playmates for me: they totally relinquish power to you. One of my subs is branded: my stylised initials tattooed in a very private place! It is hard to explain to people the level of trust involved in a D/s relationship, so I don't bother.

Ultimately I'd love a relationship like yours.

Some people think they have the right to criticise the personal choices others make in their life. I daresay it is frustrating receiving nasty messages: rise above it! You're doing what you want to do and you're happy. Are you really going to let a small number of nonentities try and spoil your fun?!!

Of course you're not!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

THank you to all that replied on here and privately.... the couple in question went on to put abuse leveled at us on their profile... we were unaware till someone messaged us and told us it had been reported.

Being owned and collared to most properly in the lifestyle is a big commitment... it actually means more to me than being married... I wear my collar with pride...

Yes I play for my MAsters pleasure but if I didn't enjoy it my Master would get no pleasure from it. We certainly won't let it spoil our fun, but why do people have to slate what they don't understand.

The comment that got to me the most was being told I was being used by my Master and when he was done with me I would be broken.... I get defensive of my master then. LOl

Sassy its nice that you like how our relationship is. Thank you

Katie. X

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

Yu do what yu both want to do.. and it is no one elses business.

stay happy.

xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Would love to be educated about the life style more than I am. Not saying I would be able to committ to it 100% , but I do like having a man control me . The respect between master /sub goes both ways and without that it wouldnt work. Finding a relationship that has that much committment and respect is certainly one to hold on to and treasure.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I prefer a dom woman but I do get stick from men and women calling me a wimp because thats what I like. Ignore them,if you two are happy then that all that matters

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Whilst I know nothing about your lifestyle or the lifestyle of other dom/subs, I am very interested in it. I dont think I could do it to the extent you do because its not me, but you two seem to have such a deep level of understanding of each other, I really admire that.

Sexually I am submissive. I find it very sexy that men take the lead. I know my guy would love me to just go up to a guy at Chameleons that I fancy and drop to my knees, or ask that he pleasure me, he likes the thought of me demanding pleasure with whatever man takes my fancy. I usually lack confidence to do this though

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Each to their own I say, doesn't matter to me what happens between consenting adults.

Personally though I'd want a relationship where each of us are equal and on the same team, so no telling each other what to do etc, just working it through together. I suppose a bit like the UN

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By *ouple1234Couple  over a year ago

BELFAST UK

wouldnt mind finding out more about this just to find out how and what its about.

to the OP from having a read at your profile do you do everything your master tells you to 24/7 or is there rules etc laid out for certian things

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

I think the problem may lie with the terminology "master", a lot may see this as "old hat", and this kind of muddies the waters a tad. As for a Dom/sub, relationship it may be hard for those who haven't got any idea what its about to understand, each is different, each is unique, just like relationships that arent sub/dom , if you are happy with it, then that's all that matters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x"

Your on the wrong site to ask this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever."

Sadly, that's the problem, people NOT respecting other people's choices.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What they do is up to them and katie is old enough and mature enough to say no, but looking at there profile they both want this and enjoy it, no one as the right to abuse them.

She certainly doesn't look like she's being bullied into, I'm a sub and I relish it and I think she does too.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x

Your on the wrong site to ask this "

I'll think you'll see from the replies that this isn't actually the case! To the OP, as others have said, you have what is percieved to be an 'unusual' relationship but is probably stronger then most! I hate it when people abuse others just because they don't understand what they're about, treat them with the contempt they deserve! Z

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever."

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x

Your on the wrong site to ask this

I'll think you'll see from the replies that this isn't actually the case! To the OP, as others have said, you have what is percieved to be an 'unusual' relationship but is probably stronger then most! I hate it when people abuse others just because they don't understand what they're about, treat them with the contempt they deserve! Z"

Another one on a high horse! Read what i put above as i don't feel like repeating.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant. "

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x"

Totally agree and am in the same situation.

Think it's important to remember that many many swingers are clueless as to the whole dom / sub thing and this *is* a swingers site.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant. "

Granted there are more specialist sites around, but the fact remains they are on Fabswingers, and there are lots on here who have sub/dom relationships, and anyone can give their opinion through experience or otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why does that make it ok for her to receive abusive messages? It's a swingers site- which they are on by choice- no-one needs to make abusive comments about their relationship- if they don't understand it, they should simply leave well alone- and no-one's on their high horse-abuse is wrong wherever.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x

Totally agree and am in the same situation.

Think it's important to remember that many many swingers are clueless as to the whole dom / sub thing and this *is* a swingers site."

I do feel this is due to people thinking through ignorance that its all "master and slave " stuff

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Why does that make it ok for her to receive abusive messages? It's a swingers site- which they are on by choice- no-one needs to make abusive comments about their relationship- if they don't understand it, they should simply leave well alone- and no-one's on their high horse-abuse is wrong wherever."
Give that lady a new glittery badge!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why does that make it ok for her to receive abusive messages? It's a swingers site- which they are on by choice- no-one needs to make abusive comments about their relationship- if they don't understand it, they should simply leave well alone- and no-one's on their high horse-abuse is wrong wherever.Give that lady a new glittery badge!!"

Hooray- a new badge for me!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z"

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No ones on their high horse here we just understand the Dom/sub thing better then you do. They have every right to be here as much as you. This is a swinging site the last time I looked and what we do is our business whether is bdsm or straight, feel sorry for katie to get abusive messages cause of this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why does that make it ok for her to receive abusive messages? It's a swingers site- which they are on by choice- no-one needs to make abusive comments about their relationship- if they don't understand it, they should simply leave well alone- and no-one's on their high horse-abuse is wrong wherever."

Who ever said it was ok to receive abusive messages? I didn't did you?

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! "

So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?"

Is it where one does the cooking and cleaning and the other has control of the TV remote?

I kid

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No ones on their high horse here we just understand the Dom/sub thing better then you do. They have every right to be here as much as you. This is a swinging site the last time I looked and what we do is our business whether is bdsm or straight, feel sorry for katie to get abusive messages cause of this"

You might be better reading things dude no one said they didn't have a right to be on here! I am not going to repeat, you just read back on what was said then you might get it.

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple  over a year ago

Bolton


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! "

Oh, thanks for pointing that out to me! We've only been swinging for a few years! Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and also their own way of life without fear of abuse! You quite bluntly said that they were on the wrong site - how tolerant is that? Little tip coming up - when hole big enough - stop digging! Have fun, Z

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


" So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?

Is it where one does the cooking and cleaning and the other has control of the TV remote?

I kid"

There may well be!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My _iew femme is in my experience as a sub is doing what your told, no they don't take over your life, it's seperate to everyday life for me but sexually my Dom takes over and I am under her command, I am her slave sexually and I do as I am told

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?"

Its not my thing but i do read and get it somewhat. I can understand some people being at unease with others stating they are into it but it isn't acceptable to message people with abuse!

My point is if you put it on your profile you will get some negative reaction. Along with people wanting bareback, only black men, no black men, no men at all, no bi men and all the other things people put on their profile that someone objects to. But i will repeat that it's not right to mail abuse (People don't seem to fully read things so it has to be re-said)

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"My _iew femme is in my experience as a sub is doing what your told, no they don't take over your life, it's seperate to everyday life for me but sexually my Dom takes over and I am under her command, I am her slave sexually and I do as I am told"
are we talking meets or a relationship here? Both can be very different and may not cross over x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why does that make it ok for her to receive abusive messages? It's a swingers site- which they are on by choice- no-one needs to make abusive comments about their relationship- if they don't understand it, they should simply leave well alone- and no-one's on their high horse-abuse is wrong wherever.

Who ever said it was ok to receive abusive messages? I didn't did you?"

Noo, I didn't agree with it, my point was simply that that they are swingers, and their personal relationship has very little to do with anything they choose to do here- so why should people be abusive because of that?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway!

Oh, thanks for pointing that out to me! We've only been swinging for a few years! Everyone does have the right to their own opinions and also their own way of life without fear of abuse! You quite bluntly said that they were on the wrong site - how tolerant is that? Little tip coming up - when hole big enough - stop digging! Have fun, Z"

I wish you had waited till i had stopped digging to jump in with both feet. It would gave saved me a lot of spade work.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In relationships mainly I don't think I would meet someone on here who would do that with me unless it was someone I met on a regular basis

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In relationships mainly I don't think I would meet someone on here who would do that with me unless it was someone I met on a regular basis "

a Dom/sub relationship is based on trust

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?

Its not my thing but i do read and get it somewhat. I can understand some people being at unease with others stating they are into it but it isn't acceptable to message people with abuse!

My point is if you put it on your profile you will get some negative reaction. Along with people wanting bareback, only black men, no black men, no men at all, no bi men and all the other things people put on their profile that someone objects to. But i will repeat that it's not right to mail abuse (People don't seem to fully read things so it has to be re-said) "

Its a lifestyle choice, the same as swinging, its varied , lots into BDSM for instance think of swinging as vanilla( i hate that word), there are lots on here on other more specialist sites , but they still have just as much right to be here as everyone else, its all about choice n tolerance and understanding, i still think, and i am entitled to my opinion that the words master n salve conjure up the wrong image, but again its the OPs choice, i have spoken to Katie before via pm and understand where she stands.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?

Its not my thing but i do read and get it somewhat. I can understand some people being at unease with others stating they are into it but it isn't acceptable to message people with abuse!

My point is if you put it on your profile you will get some negative reaction. Along with people wanting bareback, only black men, no black men, no men at all, no bi men and all the other things people put on their profile that someone objects to. But i will repeat that it's not right to mail abuse (People don't seem to fully read things so it has to be re-said) Its a lifestyle choice, the same as swinging, its varied , lots into BDSM for instance think of swinging as vanilla( i hate that word), there are lots on here on other more specialist sites , but they still have just as much right to be here as everyone else, its all about choice n tolerance and understanding, i still think, and i am entitled to my opinion that the words master n salve conjure up the wrong image, but again its the OPs choice, i have spoken to Katie before via pm and understand where she stands.x"

My point was that people will react to what you put on your profile.

If i put i was into bloodsports, fox hunting or something similar i have no doubt i would get some abusive messages. I am not saying it is acceptable to abuse people but if you wear a badge of a club and your in a different area you will get some who don't like it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trying to explain to swingers a master/submissive relationship to swingers is the same as trying to explain a swinging relationship to a fetish/bdsm couple.

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?

Its not my thing but i do read and get it somewhat. I can understand some people being at unease with others stating they are into it but it isn't acceptable to message people with abuse!

My point is if you put it on your profile you will get some negative reaction. Along with people wanting bareback, only black men, no black men, no men at all, no bi men and all the other things people put on their profile that someone objects to. But i will repeat that it's not right to mail abuse (People don't seem to fully read things so it has to be re-said) Its a lifestyle choice, the same as swinging, its varied , lots into BDSM for instance think of swinging as vanilla( i hate that word), there are lots on here on other more specialist sites , but they still have just as much right to be here as everyone else, its all about choice n tolerance and understanding, i still think, and i am entitled to my opinion that the words master n salve conjure up the wrong image, but again its the OPs choice, i have spoken to Katie before via pm and understand where she stands.x

My point was that people will react to what you put on your profile.

If i put i was into bloodsports, fox hunting or something similar i have no doubt i would get some abusive messages. I am not saying it is acceptable to abuse people but if you wear a badge of a club and your in a different area you will get some who don't like it.

"

That statement i have to agree with, i get abusive mail as it states im not meeting as a single female!! I always say you get from this site what you put in, but you will always get people who disagree, i feel that where Katie may be going wrong is putting up a few threads that state that people dont understand her lifestyle choice, she is of course entitled to put up what she likes but i do feel at times it may be "courting" criticism, just MY opinion mind!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Trying to explain to swingers a master/submissive relationship to swingers is the same as trying to explain a swinging relationship to a fetish/bdsm couple."

Or we could just have a live and let live policy? As long as no-one is hurt or forced into the situation, what's to say it's wrong?

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By *waymanMan  over a year ago

newcastle


"You know some people have no understanding of the way My Relationship with my Master/Husband works..

Have had several rude messages of late.. and when Master replies they get arsey that its a man behind the profile..

Can they not read profiles, or verifications..

Do other couples with Dom and sub or Master and slave relationships suffer with people thinking that the women are door mats, or for loan... or the men are egotistical maniacs???

Just curious..

Katie.x"

The more I learn about BDSM, the more I realise it's impossible to generalize. Some people want a high protocol BDSM relationship, some want occasional power exchanges, some people just want spanking....

And swinging's no different. Some people want to go clubbing, some people can't bear to swing in the same room as their significant other, some can only swing in the same room as their significant other.

And amongst it all some people can't stop themselves from assuming their choices are 'right', or 'better', or more logical.

the only reassuring thing is that if you change the topic from sex to music or football, you'll see people behave exactly the same...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Not if she's getting abusive messages- Katie's entitled to respect no matter what the site is & can therefore pose the question wherever.

Loads get abuse on here and every other site so its not a one off thing. You also get people telling others things just like you have with me even though you really didn't read or understand what i was saying.

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant.

I understood what you meant,as did eveyone else, they aren't on 'the wrong site' at all! Z

Do i really have to spell it out to you? Looks like i do!

On a swingers site the vast majority are involved in group sex, threesomes, foursomes, swapping and in general the normal swinging pastimes. Any sub dom play isn't that well understood by swingers or the general public for that matter. In general people treat things they don't understand with mistrust and so you will get unpleasant reactions.

I am beginning to realise what i was told about swingers not being tolerant and quick to pounce are true by both the OP received to their relationship and some of the reactions posted on here. Everyone has the right to have a _iew you know its not just your way or the highway! So may i ask what you think a sub/dom relationship is?

Its not my thing but i do read and get it somewhat. I can understand some people being at unease with others stating they are into it but it isn't acceptable to message people with abuse!

My point is if you put it on your profile you will get some negative reaction. Along with people wanting bareback, only black men, no black men, no men at all, no bi men and all the other things people put on their profile that someone objects to. But i will repeat that it's not right to mail abuse (People don't seem to fully read things so it has to be re-said) Its a lifestyle choice, the same as swinging, its varied , lots into BDSM for instance think of swinging as vanilla( i hate that word), there are lots on here on other more specialist sites , but they still have just as much right to be here as everyone else, its all about choice n tolerance and understanding, i still think, and i am entitled to my opinion that the words master n salve conjure up the wrong image, but again its the OPs choice, i have spoken to Katie before via pm and understand where she stands.x

My point was that people will react to what you put on your profile.

If i put i was into bloodsports, fox hunting or something similar i have no doubt i would get some abusive messages. I am not saying it is acceptable to abuse people but if you wear a badge of a club and your in a different area you will get some who don't like it.

That statement i have to agree with, i get abusive mail as it states im not meeting as a single female!! I always say you get from this site what you put in, but you will always get people who disagree, i feel that where Katie may be going wrong is putting up a few threads that state that people dont understand her lifestyle choice, she is of course entitled to put up what she likes but i do feel at times it may be "courting" criticism, just MY opinion mind!!! "

I freely admit it isn't my thing but i know a few who like the lifestyle but they use fetish sites where they have many who share the same ideals. Some are into swinging as well and they get less understanding on swingers sites but they expect that. They just tone their profile down to fit but that's their choice. I am not saying people should have to change profile details but if you have something on it others don't like you will always get some less than nice responses.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There isn't ANYTHING to know or to understand except for those involved.

Why the shroud and mystery ?

It's JUST a relationship nothing different.

The only thing that marks this as different to 'not scene' relationships is 'non scene' women won't admit to being subs and their 'masters' ( snigger ) won't admit to being control freaks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thank you to all the messages.. I was going to try and address points directly but will try and answer them.

Firstly, I was a little upset when I posted my thread. To be fair I thought maybe it would open a discussion and if a few more people its not all about me being a mindless doormat and following instructions that it would help...

However, as to us being on here.. We love to do the 2 or more guy play times.. so really for us we mix swinging, and dont really share our BDSM side. For instance I would never have another man dominate me( or woman)

We are on a few specific bdsm sites, but we would not have Men join us from there... as they always like to think they can dominate me. Rather than just have fun times. Hence here suits us.

The reason we put how we are on our profile is that it saves time having to explain it each and every time that I will at times be taking instruction, but My Master/husband knows my desires very well.

It also helps to explain why I am always on cam or phone if Master is not there.. Those that play on a more regular basis realise just how close we are when they come to play. :D

In BDSM World I am perhaps a little spoilt.. lol I can not as yet think of a time I was ever made to do something I did not enjoy..

The fact is that because I am happily and confidantly my Masters slave, why should I get a message that basically told me that I am a doormat.. I am about the most unlikely Submissive you will ever meet.. but I am to my Master.

Not everyone understands it, but then I happily admit I do not understand those couples that choose to seperate room swaps... but it does not give me a right to send them a pm and say " I think that one of you will run off with someone else" which is basically what I got told.

Not sure people seem to bother reading the bit that we are actually a very happy married couple, that love to have fun, and happen to also be in a BDSM relationship..

Anyone that has questions can ask me on pm as I would not answer personal questions..

But to the Do I do all I am told.. simply Yes.. does my Master abuse that trust and devotion.. "no"!... We know each other so well that I will often do things without being asked.. and since having this dynamic I am a better person.

As to the question about am I that weak minded I need a man to tell me what to do.. Nope, I am a degree educated psychologist.. I manage my own business, the house and kids while my Master/Husband is away for work, sometimes for over a month.. But the times I get to serve and submit makes me feel good.. it makes me happy.

It may be a little outdated for some, but I love how it is.. I get treated like a lady for much of the time and I challenge anyone who really knows us to say that I am not very well looked after.

What I think we have is complete trust in one another, and I love in a way I didnt know was capable of.

And as to should I be moaning about it on here.. I figured it would make a change from the single men moaning about not getting meets.. :D OR BBW... :D

Katie.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There isn't ANYTHING to know or to understand except for those involved.

Why the shroud and mystery ?

It's JUST a relationship nothing different.

The only thing that marks this as different to 'not scene' relationships is 'non scene' women won't admit to being subs and their 'masters' ( snigger ) won't admit to being control freaks. "

Granny- I freely admit to being a control freak- they WILL be treated like my dogs.......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't understand the mentality of some people on here - honestly I don't.

If I come across a profile with practices that I'm not into it wouldn't cross my mind in a million years to write to the person and criticise them: I'm not interested so why let it bother me?!! Are people so bereft of things to worry about that how others get sexual satisfaction ON A SWINGING SITE causes them concern?!!

I'm amazed some people get to play they seem to spend a lot of time nit picking other peoples profiles or taking umbridge if they are excluded.

Some people feel the need to start threads about every mail they get, some people want to justify their lifestyle - it's not necessary, really, but being an open forum, it will attract differing _iews.

Personally, I could give a flying one to what people think about my playtime. My playmates and I find each other and have fun - I wish everyone finds what they're looking for and for heaven's sake - leave other's alone.

Get a life!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And bravo Katie

x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sassy ....... There's no way I'd consider reading and commening on the practices, preferences or relationships of others .. excpet perhaps where they started it themselves.

I agree that it's no one elses business but theirs UNTIL it's made public, then there are those that will comply with the wishes of the O.P. and comment.

Gran x

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"I don't understand the mentality of some people on here - honestly I don't.

If I come across a profile with practices that I'm not into it wouldn't cross my mind in a million years to write to the person and criticise them: I'm not interested so why let it bother me?!! Are people so bereft of things to worry about that how others get sexual satisfaction ON A SWINGING SITE causes them concern?!!

I'm amazed some people get to play they seem to spend a lot of time nit picking other peoples profiles or taking umbridge if they are excluded.

Some people feel the need to start threads about every mail they get, some people want to justify their lifestyle - it's not necessary, really, but being an open forum, it will attract differing _iews.

Personally, I could give a flying one to what people think about my playtime. My playmates and I find each other and have fun - I wish everyone finds what they're looking for and for heaven's sake - leave other's alone.

Get a life!!! "

well said Sassy ... and considering I will meet less than 0.01% of the site at socials/and or exchange messages/interact with and have sex with even less.... why the feck worry about what they rest think.

couldn't give a monkeys

and they should think the very same about me...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There isn't ANYTHING to know or to understand except for those involved.

Why the shroud and mystery ?

It's JUST a relationship nothing different.

The only thing that marks this as different to 'not scene' relationships is 'non scene' women won't admit to being subs and their 'masters' ( snigger ) won't admit to being control freaks.

Granny- I freely admit to being a control freak- they WILL be treated like my dogs......."

Ooooooooo do you dom ?

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

[Removed by poster at 01/01/11 18:45:18]

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sassy ....... There's no way I'd consider reading and commening on the practices, preferences or relationships of others .. excpet perhaps where they started it themselves.

I agree that it's no one elses business but theirs UNTIL it's made public, then there are those that will comply with the wishes of the O.P. and comment.

Gran x "

Granny - that's the point I'm making about people starting threads to justify what they do - it's not necessary. But the OP's thread was started in response to abuse, and that's my main point, trawling profiles and sending abusive messages because they don't like what they see.

Hmmmmm...feeling devilish - going to see if I can find profiles not wanting old, black, Domme BBWs and ask them why not?...I may be a while!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't understand the mentality of some people on here - honestly I don't. "
. What, just some? Sounds like you've covered most forum posters there lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Sassy ....... There's no way I'd consider reading and commening on the practices, preferences or relationships of others .. excpet perhaps where they started it themselves.

I agree that it's no one elses business but theirs UNTIL it's made public, then there are those that will comply with the wishes of the O.P. and comment.

Gran x

Granny - that's the point I'm making about people starting threads to justify what they do - it's not necessary. But the OP's thread was started in response to abuse, and that's my main point, trawling profiles and sending abusive messages because they don't like what they see.

Hmmmmm...feeling devilish - going to see if I can find profiles not wanting old, black, Domme BBWs and ask them why not?...I may be a while! "

Ha! Let me know how you get on x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

Hmmmmm...feeling devilish - going to see if I can find profiles not wanting old, black, Domme BBWs and ask them why not?...I may be a while! "

Lol :D I do sometimes think people go through profiles just to pick fights.. its normally those that have no verifications but this couple were a very well established couple. So a little odd for us.

Katie.x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

You have a point and people shouldn't be abusive but you really shouldn't post messages people sent to you as i think its against the rules."

I think it is if you post who they are.. at no point have I said who..

and a couple is not going to make it any easier..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There isn't ANYTHING to know or to understand except for those involved.

Why the shroud and mystery ?

It's JUST a relationship nothing different.

The only thing that marks this as different to 'not scene' relationships is 'non scene' women won't admit to being subs and their 'masters' ( snigger ) won't admit to being control freaks.

Granny- I freely admit to being a control freak- they WILL be treated like my dogs.......

Ooooooooo do you dom ?"

Granny- they HAVE to wear the rottie's collar- it's pink

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You have a point and people shouldn't be abusive but you really shouldn't post messages people sent to you as i think its against the rules.

I think it is if you post who they are.. at no point have I said who..

and a couple is not going to make it any easier..

"

No your not meant to post the words they used because they may not be able to defend them self.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Ive had to remove some posts due to the content of private messages in them,if you quoted them they will have been removed too

If you get abusive messages then please just report them and not post them on the forums

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By *emmefataleWoman  over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville


"Ive had to remove some posts due to the content of private messages in them,if you quoted them they will have been removed too

If you get abusive messages then please just report them and not post them on the forums"

you only said that so u wanted to be the 69th poster

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago
Forum Mod


"Ive had to remove some posts due to the content of private messages in them,if you quoted them they will have been removed too

If you get abusive messages then please just report them and not post them on the forumsyou only said that so u wanted to be the 69th poster"

Wahooo! lol

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"

You have a point and people shouldn't be abusive but you really shouldn't post messages people sent to you as i think its against the rules.

I think it is if you post who they are.. at no point have I said who..

and a couple is not going to make it any easier..

"

No, it is postig any messages at all, wether you name them or not.

It would be helpful if you could stop keep mentioning the couple all the time too to be honest and maybe just stick to your question, as it is starting to look like this thread was just to have a pop at someone, which would be the same as them having a pop at you on their status that you said they had.

Thanks.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

Another post removed.

please read both mods posts before postin again.

( sorry HPC, I had posted before seeing you were on it )

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

the more people goad you... the better it is to ignore them.

so if they say anything negative about you... ignore.

it will annoy the fuck out of them

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"the more people goad you... the better it is to ignore them.

so if they say anything negative about you... ignore.

it will annoy the fuck out of them "

* nods * Much more rewarding

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"the more people goad you... the better it is to ignore them.

so if they say anything negative about you... ignore.

it will annoy the fuck out of them "

I do most of the time..

but sometimes it just makes me so annoyed, I dont try to understand how some people work, they just do.. its what works for the individual...

For those outside swinging, try to explain how you can LOVE someone but see them having sex with someone else?

Its amusing to say the least..

I had to recently explain to my Dad that I was in a BDSM relationship, as I was so proud of my collar I had put it on facebook. My uncle rang my dad saying I had been brainwashed by a cult

So I had to explain and he was fine about it once I put it into a way he could understand..

I get a lot of grief of peopl that know because they seem to think that I'm being bullied, but if they bothered to actually see how we interact together, they would realise that its just a way of being for me, and one that makes me happy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?"

whistles.... pretending didn't notice this....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?

whistles.... pretending didn't notice this.... "

G'wan.. your not whistlin ....that's puckerin.

Mwah .if I wasn't ignorin you that is

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?

whistles.... pretending didn't notice this....

G'wan.. your not whistlin ....that's puckerin.

Mwah .if I wasn't ignorin you that is "

sneaks up... plants a kiss and runs...

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

What i am saying as it looks like you need me to make it clear is not that she shouldn't be complaining but more to the point its a swinging site not a BDSM one. Maybe you will understand now what i was saying before jumping to the conclusion i was complaining about her rant. "

that is a very interesting last paragraph you wrote there "harder stronger faster" because you put on your profile that you like playing with "cuckold couples".....

since to a lot of people that wouldn't really be swinging either... does that mean you are on the wrong site as well???

I was under the impression that swinging for a lot of people was all inclusive... but apparently I am wrong.....

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?

whistles.... pretending didn't notice this.... "

I am ignoreing Granny now View

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?

whistles.... pretending didn't notice this....

I am ignoreing Granny now View "

no no no Rugby... we will be a clique now lol xx

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

I think what it boils down to is.....there are a lot of people on this site who are not tolerant of what others are on the site for..be that for not understanding what goes on in peoples relationships or for people being sefl righteous and think everyone should do things their way and only their way.

We do what we want to do because WE want to, ad would't defend ourselves as to why we do it.

Just ignore people who butt their nose in and report the people who are abusive, otherwise it looks like you are defending yourself when you shouldn't have to.

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By *atisfy janeWoman  over a year ago

Torquay


"I think what it boils down to is.....there are a lot of people on this site who are not tolerant of what others are on the site for..be that for not understanding what goes on in peoples relationships or for people being sefl righteous and think everyone should do things their way and only their way.

We do what we want to do because WE want to, ad would't defend ourselves as to why we do it.

Just ignore people who butt their nose in and report the people who are abusive, otherwise it looks like you are defending yourself when you shouldn't have to."

Easily the best post in this thread

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo


"I'm ignoring both of you. Did you notice ?

whistles.... pretending didn't notice this....

I am ignoreing Granny now View

no no no Rugby... we will be a clique now lol xx "

ooooooo one new years resolution fulfillfed, join a clique !!....shame there is only two of us.....I am greedy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There isn't ANYTHING to know or to understand except for those involved.

Why the shroud and mystery ?

It's JUST a relationship nothing different.

The only thing that marks this as different to 'not scene' relationships is 'non scene' women won't admit to being subs and their 'masters' ( snigger ) won't admit to being control freaks. "

or vice versa

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