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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Most straight guys on here are bi

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "

Because , as you should know,as far as transgender is concerned, m/f Trans are deemed female, so it is a straight guy/female relationship, legally.

(unless you live in the 19th century still), or are a neandethal type.x.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Exactly when I meet a guy I look like a woman, I act like a woman and I get fucked like a woman.

Assuming he doesn't do anything with my cock I don't see how he is anything but straight.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I dont like chatting up T girls..I dont mind chatting to them..it'll never be sexualized chat

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

Because , as you should know,as far as transgender is concerned, m/f Trans are deemed female, so it is a straight guy/female relationship, legally.

(unless you live in the 19th century still), or are a neandethal type.x."

very well explained +1

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By *iamondjoeMan  over a year ago

Glastonbury

Straight guys are funny

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Best blowjobs!

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans "

not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"Most straight guys on here are bi".....what the fuck is that...shite.....and how would anyone know that...!

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???"

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans "

That's fine, you are entitle to your own sexual preference. But you are not entitled to define someone else's.

Just because you define sexual and gender identity in terms of genitalia does not mean that it is the only valid definition.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans

That's fine, you are entitle to your own sexual preference. But you are not entitled to define someone else's.

Just because you define sexual and gender identity in terms of genitalia does not mean that it is the only valid definition."

I wasn't trying to define anyone else's sexual preferences. I apologise if thats how it comes across, but having read it again, I cant see how my post says that, but as I was the author obviously I know the intention behind the words that perhaps doesn't come across to a 3rd party.

I was not attempting to define sexual or gender identity. I was only stating my preference as to who I would like to play with. I apologise again if people thought that I was trying to define gender by genitalia.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female."

No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??"

Well perhaps my question should be which thread am I allowed to post on in an open forum, and which threads do you think I'm not allowed to post on?

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans

That's fine, you are entitle to your own sexual preference. But you are not entitled to define someone else's.

Just because you define sexual and gender identity in terms of genitalia does not mean that it is the only valid definition.

I wasn't trying to define anyone else's sexual preferences. I apologise if thats how it comes across, but having read it again, I cant see how my post says that, but as I was the author obviously I know the intention behind the words that perhaps doesn't come across to a 3rd party.

I was not attempting to define sexual or gender identity. I was only stating my preference as to who I would like to play with. I apologise again if people thought that I was trying to define gender by genitalia. "

You have as much a right to your preference where sexuality is concerned as others do when excluding based on other characteristics

Just a bit strange that you chose to comment on a thread which was asking straight men why they choose to have sex with TV/TS when you as a straight guys does not

Still, you have much a right to comment as anyone else does

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???"

Because hes a genuine straight guy not a liar who thinks if the guy hes screwing is wearing a dress its not really homosexual sex but it is!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My oh my the joy of opinions.

People on here bitch about straight guys who are really bi and bi guys who are not bi enough, those that are bi curious but how can you still be curious after a few months and straight guys who are actually straight but are they really just pretending so they get more action.....

Simple truth is sexual it is entirely up to the persons own defining of themselves. If a man believes he is straight as he doesn't give a TV a blow job and only receives surely that's also entirely up to him again to define his own sexuality.

P's personally I'm more interested to know why TG'S do not have their own search rather than being grouped with TV and CD's, would make searching far easier

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Because the whole CD/TV/TS/TG thing is a definition nightmare.

I define myself as genderfluid, I am none of those two letter acronyms listed above, but I wear female clothes and I have a cock so accept that I belong in there somewhere.

I understand why people don't get it, if you've never experienced gender identity issues first hand then how can you be expected to know.

It took me years to realise that I was the Q in LGBTQI+ (I think that's this months acronym of choice)

But in short people need to realise that sexual preference and gender identity can combine in a million different combinations.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I guess your right in that sense. Would then have to define pre and post op ect... shame really as it would be preferable to actually not have to trawl through all the CD,TV profiles to find the TS/TG profiles lol but guess it's the same as trawling through all the couple profile to find the ones that take your fancy as such

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Exactly and trying to work out if that straight guy would consider a CDTVTSTGXSDFGHAFG or not.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I find it a bigger turn on when straight guys get turned on by little old me makes it more secretive and wrong

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I find it a bigger turn on when straight guys get turned on by little old me makes it more secretive and wrong"

There is a new twist on it a bi guy pretending to be straight to get into a TV' pants heehee

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I find it a bigger turn on when straight guys get turned on by little old me makes it more secretive and wrong

There is a new twist on it a bi guy pretending to be straight to get into a TV' pants heehee"

I prefer me in the knickers (well pulled to one side but meh)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

Because , as you should know,as far as transgender is concerned, m/f Trans are deemed female, so it is a straight guy/female relationship, legally.

(unless you live in the 19th century still), or are a neandethal type.x."

With a dicK?

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By *uessWhosBackAgainMan  over a year ago

London


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??"

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It would be far too shallow to point out TS girls don't get cellulite wouldn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man "

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?"

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

"

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

"

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Why do people need to be pigeonholed into certain categories or groups? Maybe these guys are straight 90% of the time but took a liking to a pic or something. If you like them and there's a mutual attraction, go for it.

Isn't life complicated enough?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Most straight guys on here are bi".....what the fuck is that...shite.....and how would anyone know that...!"

I've had more straight guys mailing me wanting to give me a blowjob when I point out there straight I get they put straight because straight couples won't meet them if they put bi

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)"

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks "

You realise that's exactly the oposite of what that quote means right?

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "

I don't. with absolutely no disrespect meant to TS/TV or CD's, to me they will still be men and I 'm not interested in chatting up men.

Cal

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I don't. with absolutely no disrespect meant to TS/TV or CD's, to me they will still be men and I 'm not interested in chatting up men.

Cal"

Well said

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

You realise that's exactly the oposite of what that quote means right?"

Yes, but that is the Queen's fault for not saying the right things

You tell me a better one to 'suit the occassion'

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

You realise that's exactly the oposite of what that quote means right?

Yes, but that is the Queen's fault for not saying the right things

You tell me a better one to 'suit the occassion'"

Fuck you twat bag?

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

You realise that's exactly the oposite of what that quote means right?

Yes, but that is the Queen's fault for not saying the right things

You tell me a better one to 'suit the occassion'

Fuck you twat bag?"

That is rude but appropriate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I DON'T because i'm straight, the guys you are speaking to are in denial (in my opinion of course)

The lady doth protest too much, methinks

You realise that's exactly the oposite of what that quote means right?

Yes, but that is the Queen's fault for not saying the right things

You tell me a better one to 'suit the occassion'

Fuck you twat bag?

That is rude but appropriate"

It has been remarked that I don't do subtly personally I think they're just wankers though

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Well perhaps my question should be which thread am I allowed to post on in an open forum, and which threads do you think I'm not allowed to post on? "

Thats just silly.lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am straight. I have no interest in cock, however it is dressed. Never have and never will contact any male that is tv/ts, bi or straight for that matter.

I have played with couples on the odd occasion where the male has been bi, but on the understanding I am straight and not interested in anything m/m. All interest focused on the female.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"I am straight. I have no interest in cock, however it is dressed. Never have and never will contact any male that is tv/ts, bi or straight for that matter.

I have played with couples on the odd occasion where the male has been bi, but on the understanding I am straight and not interested in anything m/m. All interest focused on the female. "

You get 10 out of 10 for straightness; well done

The others need to try harder

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I am straight. I have no interest in cock, however it is dressed. Never have and never will contact any male that is tv/ts, bi or straight for that matter.

I have played with couples on the odd occasion where the male has been bi, but on the understanding I am straight and not interested in anything m/m. All interest focused on the female.

You get 10 out of 10 for straightness; well done Lol well said.xx

The others need to try harder"

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Because hes a genuine straight guy not a liar who thinks if the guy hes screwing is wearing a dress its not really homosexual sex but it is!! "

Liar? welcome to the 19th century . So you understand more abouthuman biology than the greatest brains in their chosen field? you must either be extremely clever, or extremely stupid , thing I have made my decision.lol.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government. "

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

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By *o new WinksMan  over a year ago

BSE


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "

I don't. I am straight.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x"

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. .

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I don't. I am straight. "

So why bother to post ??lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . "

one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984. "

None of my facts are wrong- I represent transitioning folk all day long.

You need to interpret the law as a high court judge does- the police only inforce the law, NOT make it. lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984. None of my facts are wrong- I represent transitioning folk all day long.

You need to interpret the law as a high court judge does- the police only inforce the law, NOT make it. lol."

Nope still wrong check Pink News if you dont fancy PACE.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984. "

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ?

I don't. with absolutely no disrespect meant to TS/TV or CD's, to me they will still be men and I 'm not interested in chatting up men.

Cal"

People will seek to label that opinion while loudly protesting about labels with their next breath.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?"

Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty. "

The copy and paste is strong with this thread.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley

I am sorry but I don't understand. What has all that got to do with bisexual guys?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am sorry but I don't understand. What has all that got to do with bisexual guys?"

No idea I thought the thread was about straight guys?

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty.

The copy and paste is strong with this thread. "

If it answers the question asked, why not ? or should we just get out the 'old chestnuts' again, and pursue the old bigotories ??

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"I am sorry but I don't understand. What has all that got to do with bisexual guys?

No idea I thought the thread was about straight guys? "

OK; what has the Police got to do with straight guys? I really feel stupid asking this but I am curious. Not like in bi-curious; just curious

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I am sorry but I don't understand. What has all that got to do with bisexual guys?

No idea I thought the thread was about straight guys? "

Original post :straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? A question. Hope this helps you understand.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty.

The copy and paste is strong with this thread. If it answers the question asked, why not ? or should we just get out the 'old chestnuts' again, and pursue the old bigotories ??"

Chestnuts bigotries? from where?

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I am sorry but I don't understand. What has all that got to do with bisexual guys?

No idea I thought the thread was about straight guys?

OK; what has the Police got to do with straight guys? I really feel stupid asking this but I am curious. Not like in bi-curious; just curious Doubt I have the time to explain it to you, sorry.x "

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty.

The copy and paste is strong with this thread. If it answers the question asked, why not ? or should we just get out the 'old chestnuts' again, and pursue the old bigotories ??

Chestnuts bigotries? from where? "

Oh wait- see them fallin just now.lol

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By *epper123Woman  over a year ago

London

I was curious about a female debit card. I did not think debit cards had a gender ... passport and driving license I can get how you can see that ... I know it's a life for some people and understand you are arguing to the nth degree (as I do myself for some topics) but the debate seems to have become very narrow now

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty.

The copy and paste is strong with this thread. If it answers the question asked, why not ? or should we just get out the 'old chestnuts' again, and pursue the old bigotories ??

Chestnuts bigotries? from where? Oh wait- see them fallin just now.lol

"

Not from us that's for sure.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x

Must add, I have a female passport, driving licence, bank accounts, debit cards, but NO grc yet- and the law accepts me as female, I can use female toilets, get female rates in clubs (I do already), can refuse to be searched by a male police officer, locked in cells with males, can ask for female doctor, the list goes on, For christ's sake get your facts right. . one of your facts is wrong. Have a peek at PACE 1984.

The suspense is killing me; what does PACE 1984 say?Pace is only a guide for policing policies, it carries NO legaal weight, or Judicial remit. Can post it for you if you want. lol. Basically, it is a basic guide for plod on the streets, nothing more. Advice to avoid legal problems is freely available to all forces, such as:EQUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT

Section 4 of the

Equality Act 2010 sets out the

protected characteristics

that qualify for protection under

the Act as follows:

Age

;

Disability

; Gender Reassignment;

Marriage and Civil Partnership

;

Pregnancy and

Maternity

;

Race

;

Religion or Belief

; Sex;

Sexual Orientation

.

The

public sector equality

duty

places a proactive legal requirement on public bodies to have regard, in

the exercise of their functions, to the need to:

-

eliminate discrimination, harassment,

victimisation, and any other conduct that is unlawful under the

Act;

-

advance equality of opportunity between persons who share a relevant protected characteristic and

persons who do not share it;

-

foster good relations between persons

who share a rel

evant protected

characteristic and persons

who do not share it.

The equality duty applies to all protected characteristics with the exception of Marriage and Civil

Partnership, to which only the duty to have regard to the need to eliminate discrimination

applies.

Carrying out an

equality impact assessment

involves syste

matically assessing the likely or actual

effects

of policies on people in respect of all the protected characteristics set out above.

An

equality impact assessment

should be carried out o

n any policy that is

relevant

to

the public sector

equality duty.

The copy and paste is strong with this thread. If it answers the question asked, why not ? or should we just get out the 'old chestnuts' again, and pursue the old bigotories ??

Chestnuts bigotries? from where? Oh wait- see them fallin just now.lol

Not from us that's for sure. "

Glad to hear it.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Quotes getting too long now.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"Quotes getting too long now. "

Can someone who is a straight guy please reply why they meet TV/TS? Frankly, I couldn't understand what the issue might be but hey, lets hear from the straight guys

So far, the straight guys who have commented have simply reaffirmed their 'vows'

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London

Some intolerant, condescending retorts from people expecting tolerance from others!

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"I was curious about a female debit card. I did not think debit cards had a gender ... passport and driving license I can get how you can see that ... I know it's a life for some people and understand you are arguing to the nth degree (as I do myself for some topics) but the debate seems to have become very narrow now"
Not a debate, just a statement of fact. I have had to alter the following whilst transitioning:

Driving licence to Miss Loretta xxxx

Passport to Miss Loretta xxxx

Bank account (including ALL cards held Miss Loretta xxxx

Car ownership details Miss Loretta xxxx

( They even cancelled my car tax, and made me renew ) as Miss Loretta xxx

Pension Miss Loretta

Council tax, Miss Loretta xxxx

Pension Miss Loretta xxxx

Car insurance Miss Loretta xxxx

House ownership Miss Loretta xxxx

I wont post the rest, be here all night. it is no joke, it is my life.x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Some intolerant, condescending retorts from people expecting tolerance from others! "

Always the same even to allies.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"Some intolerant, condescending retorts from people expecting tolerance from others! "
How unusual, but who is expecting tolerance- or just their legal rights ??

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By *epper123Woman  over a year ago

London

No one is saying its a joke, not at my end, anyway, just there may be better ways to get it across ....

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"No one is saying its a joke, not at my end, anyway, just there may be better ways to get it across .... "

Get what across? Not interested in your opinion, just answering questions, if you dont like that, your problem, not mine .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "

I dont !!!!!!!!

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By *epper123Woman  over a year ago

London


"No one is saying its a joke, not at my end, anyway, just there may be better ways to get it across ....

Get what across? Not interested in your opinion, just answering questions, if you dont like that, your problem, not mine ."

Gosh, okay .... whatever your point was supposed to be? But if you are not interested in other people's opinions, then maybe the same comes back to you. I am always interested in the opinions of others .... like to see discussion and differences of opinion on the forums.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am straight. I have no interest in cock, however it is dressed. Never have and never will contact any male that is tv/ts, bi or straight for that matter.

I have played with couples on the odd occasion where the male has been bi, but on the understanding I am straight and not interested in anything m/m. All interest focused on the female. "

Good boy! You can go out and play now.

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By *sianmale89Man  over a year ago

Stockport


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "

I have a confession to make...

when I first joined here I sometimes used to talk/speak with tgirls as I found them to be attractive and used to enjoy watching them on cam or looking at their pictures...

however as I'm straight I came to realise that I shouldn't bother them as this is after all a serious site and that I should not be a hypocrite, I was offered twice for a meet by two good looking T-Girls but I politely rejected...

nowadays I leave them be in peace, though I cant help it if I find some of them attractive....maybe there is something wrong with me?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Straight guys are funny"

aint they just

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"straight guys why do you like to chat up Tgirls and tv ts to i dont get it as i get a lot of straight guys chatin to me ? ? ? "
and another one another one bites the dust xx hugs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And OP became even more confused about the true meaning of fab 'straight', so left the site.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

yes well,,,anyway,,so ladies yer not a big lezzer if ya wanna snog me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans

That's fine, you are entitle to your own sexual preference. But you are not entitled to define someone else's.

Just because you define sexual and gender identity in terms of genitalia does not mean that it is the only valid definition.

I wasn't trying to define anyone else's sexual preferences. I apologise if thats how it comes across, but having read it again, I cant see how my post says that, but as I was the author obviously I know the intention behind the words that perhaps doesn't come across to a 3rd party.

I was not attempting to define sexual or gender identity. I was only stating my preference as to who I would like to play with. I apologise again if people thought that I was trying to define gender by genitalia. "

Seemed pretty clear to me....but then I'm straight and I don't ever "chat up" TVs, CDs, transgender etc. as I have no sexual attraction to them....it does not however mean I do not talk to them or respect their sexuality and choices.

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By *oretta DelamonteTV/TS  over a year ago

Birmingham


"No one is saying its a joke, not at my end, anyway, just there may be better ways to get it across ....

Get what across? Not interested in your opinion, just answering questions, if you dont like that, your problem, not mine .

Gosh, okay .... whatever your point was supposed to be? But if you are not interested in other people's opinions, then maybe the same comes back to you. I am always interested in the opinions of others .... like to see discussion and differences of opinion on the forums."

Not making a point, you seem to read into it whatever suits you.Again, you seem to insist in telling me your opinions... what bit of I am not interested don't you understand ??

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"Some intolerant, condescending retorts from people expecting tolerance from others!

Always the same even to allies. "

An ally who thought it was super important to nitpick about PACE, and who when shown they were wrong just got snarky about copy and pasting rather than admitting their mistake?

Way to go, 'ally'.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally I'm not interested in playing with anyone who has a penis, or has ever had a penis.

But that is just my preference when it comes to who I have sex with. Im not anti-trans not sure what bearing that has to original post. ???

Im a straight guy. The OP was about straight guys and what they do. There was another post about all straight guys being bi. Finally, there was your post about all MF trans being female. No it wasn't. It was a direct question to straight guys who contact tv/tg, etc, so still don't understand your interest. lol. And yes, transitioning m/f. ARE legally classed as female, when presenting as such- 2006 Gender recognition act- your question is??

Not what k law says if the birth cert says male your male forever until that is changed your a man

Yeah the birth certificate is changed along with passport drivers license etc

So you're now happy they're women right?

Really? maybe by deed poll you can

http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/

In order to apply for this you must prove that:

1.You suffer from, or have suffered from gender dysphoria

2.You have been living in your acquired gender for the last two years

3.You intend on remaining in your new gender permanently

Providing your application for a Gender Recognition Certificate is successful, your amended birth certificate will be issued to show your new gender and name.

Read more: http://www.ukdp.co.uk/name-change-birth-certificate-england-and-wales/#gender#ixzz3q7I3WKGm

Great so you're now happy that trans women are women not men. Glad we got this cleared up.

Im suprised such an uncontrolled document mattered so much to you, fun fact you can get a copy of anyone's birth certificate for about a tenner from the government.

GRC is a strictly controlled document, and is only available to a high court judge, senior police officer investigating a serious crime, or the registrar of births, deaths and marriages. To reveal details of this certificate can incure serious penalties, including imprisonment. Once the grc is presented, and birth certificate altered, no information of previous sex is available.

Hope this helps with your problem, as it neede clearing up for the few.x"

I'm talking about birth certificates when I say uncontrolled .

You can walk in and get a copy of anyone's don't even need id

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am of the humble opinion that this thread not only went off topic, it left the beaten path to such an extent that new continents were discovered. Clearly some of the posters had forgotten the OPs question in their eagerness to give answers... To something or other.

Distraction is the culprit to blame, I suspect, so to ensure your future responses are in the same post code as relevant,, put all shoe catalogues and shiny things in the corner of the room and cover with a vision resistant blanket.

This simple precaution will prevent rambling amphetamine fuelled replies.

Thank you for your kind attention.

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"I am of the humble opinion that this thread not only went off topic, it left the beaten path to such an extent that new continents were discovered. Clearly some of the posters had forgotten the OPs question in their eagerness to give answers... To something or other.

Distraction is the culprit to blame, I suspect, so to ensure your future responses are in the same post code as relevant,, put all shoe catalogues and shiny things in the corner of the room and cover with a vision resistant blanket.

This simple precaution will prevent rambling amphetamine fuelled replies.

Thank you for your kind attention. "

The OP has left in search of the truth elsewhere

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I was curious about a female debit card. I did not think debit cards had a gender ... passport and driving license I can get how you can see that ... I know it's a life for some people and understand you are arguing to the nth degree (as I do myself for some topics) but the debate seems to have become very narrow nowNot a debate, just a statement of fact. I have had to alter the following whilst transitioning:

Driving licence to Miss Loretta xxxx

Passport to Miss Loretta xxxx

Bank account (including ALL cards held Miss Loretta xxxx

Car ownership details Miss Loretta xxxx

( They even cancelled my car tax, and made me renew ) as Miss Loretta xxx

Pension Miss Loretta

Council tax, Miss Loretta xxxx

Pension Miss Loretta xxxx

Car insurance Miss Loretta xxxx

House ownership Miss Loretta xxxx

I wont post the rest, be here all night. it is no joke, it is my life.x"

So it sounds exactly the same as when people get married and change their name?

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By *osieWoman  over a year ago

Wembley


"I was curious about a female debit card. I did not think debit cards had a gender ... passport and driving license I can get how you can see that ... I know it's a life for some people and understand you are arguing to the nth degree (as I do myself for some topics) but the debate seems to have become very narrow nowNot a debate, just a statement of fact. I have had to alter the following whilst transitioning:

Driving licence to Miss Loretta xxxx

Passport to Miss Loretta xxxx

Bank account (including ALL cards held Miss Loretta xxxx

Car ownership details Miss Loretta xxxx

( They even cancelled my car tax, and made me renew ) as Miss Loretta xxx

Pension Miss Loretta

Council tax, Miss Loretta xxxx

Pension Miss Loretta xxxx

Car insurance Miss Loretta xxxx

House ownership Miss Loretta xxxx

I wont post the rest, be here all night. it is no joke, it is my life.x

So it sounds exactly the same as when people get married and change their name? "

Do they? Why? Don't they like their own name?

Do they also change their sex at the same time?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am of the humble opinion that this thread not only went off topic, it left the beaten path to such an extent that new continents were discovered. Clearly some of the posters had forgotten the OPs question in their eagerness to give answers... To something or other.

Distraction is the culprit to blame, I suspect, so to ensure your future responses are in the same post code as relevant,, put all shoe catalogues and shiny things in the corner of the room and cover with a vision resistant blanket.

This simple precaution will prevent rambling amphetamine fuelled replies.

Thank you for your kind attention.

The OP has left in search of the truth elsewhere"

Godspeed on your voyage of truth, brave OP.

I hope he wasn't foolish enough to attempt to read all these replies before succumbing to the deadly effects of tedium.

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