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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" If they say it's cold , say you should participate then as I am warm Say next time before you come round look at some porn , so you know what to do Seriously is that the best you can do Why lie about it , if they are crap , tell them . Or suggest they watch you with a woman that know how to treat a man | |||
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"I would try get her more involved and talk to her about what she likes when having fun and what she might like to try out. Has this happened to you recently? " First sentence gets a from me. Ask what we like, if possible, before the meet. | |||
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"They've been watching too much of that potato based porn. Thinking all they've got to do to please a man is just lie there, maybe covered in oil if they're pushing the boat out. So selfish, and it's an increasing problem on here." I guess i could try and be a bit unusual by asking her to leave her jacket on? | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" I think we would ask her to put the telly on so we had something to amuse ourselves with while we did the deed | |||
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"They've been watching too much of that potato based porn. Thinking all they've got to do to please a man is just lie there, maybe covered in oil if they're pushing the boat out. So selfish, and it's an increasing problem on here." Oil? No wonder she's unhappy. Everyone knows its butter that goes with potatoes. | |||
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"Isn't that what we're supposed to do? When don't move during sex that's just rude. " *women | |||
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"Put MOTD on & crack open a beer." Pmsl | |||
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"I would try get her more involved and talk to her about what she likes when having fun and what she might like to try out. Has this happened to you recently? First sentence gets a from me. Ask what we like, if possible, before the meet. " Thanks! So what do you like?! Lol Message me if you fancy a chat. J x | |||
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"Hard finger blast or tea bagging " Music to my ears ! What modern woman doesn't enjoy a dam good tea bagging!? | |||
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"Sprinkle her in semolina and give her a good roasting Personally I couldn't just lie there, I like to have a go on top and try different positions, it's gives the man involved a bit of a breather " | |||
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"Hard finger blast or tea bagging Music to my ears ! What modern woman doesn't enjoy a dam good tea bagging!?" Exactly an often overlooked technique. | |||
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"Sounds to me like the impetus is being put on the man to make a good meet. "Find out what she likes first" "what have YOU done to get her fully aroused". It takes 2 to tango. Women especially swingers should be confident enough to take the lead when playing. (and you can lead without being on top as it were). When i play with men I'm always "the girl" but using my body language i can always show him what i want. With no pre-job brief." I think the onus is often put on the man and they frequently accept the responsibility, I often see phrases such as "it's all about the lady's pleasure" the infamous "I could lick for hours" "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure". Sex, any sex is about all parties taking responsibility for their own pleasure in my opinion. Some people will still be crap though | |||
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"They've been watching too much of that potato based porn. Thinking all they've got to do to please a man is just lie there, maybe covered in oil if they're pushing the boat out. So selfish, and it's an increasing problem on here. Oil? No wonder she's unhappy. Everyone knows its butter that goes with potatoes." Not if she was expecting a good roasting | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" peel them and chuck them in the pot xx | |||
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" The other thread didn't blame men. " Admittedly I skimmed it...but most of the posts I read were blaming men (and trends in modern porn). Even the thread title was blaming the man. | |||
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"I would try get her more involved and talk to her about what she likes when having fun and what she might like to try out. Has this happened to you recently? First sentence gets a from me. Ask what we like, if possible, before the meet. Thanks! So what do you like?! Lol Message me if you fancy a chat. J x " oh right, well, ill do that, thanks | |||
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"I thought the other thread was putting the onus on men somewhat IMO. You have brought balance to the force OP. " It's what i do. Mwah! | |||
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"Fuck! All this talk about potatoes is making me want a roast dinner today. That means I have to stop laying here like a sack of spuds. Bugger. " But you do it so well!? | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" Be interesting to see this thread in comparison to the "why do blokes treat me like a piece of meat and try to just copy porn" thread. | |||
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"20,000 volts" 60% of the time, it works everytime! | |||
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"20,000 volts 60% of the time, it works everytime!" | |||
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"Fuck! All this talk about potatoes is making me want a roast dinner today. That means I have to stop laying here like a sack of spuds. Bugger. But you do it so well!?" Not sure if you mean the roast dinner or laying like a sack of spuds. .. | |||
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"I think the difference is that men can get aroused very quickly but most women need more time to get to that place so yes initially I would say yes it is up to the guy to make sure his partner is fully aroused. Also some women aren't always good at asking for what they want. I've done a lot of Tantra workshops and the philosophy was always to pleasure the woman first. And then you'll get back so much more from her! " I would suggest that if a woman is attending a club or an organised meet and is not already turned on by the situation it's self. ( and no i don't mean fully aroused, but at least mildly moist) then she shouldn't be swinging. It sounds more like she needs a man whore. | |||
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"So just to get more info....was it that she wouldn't touch you, suck your cock? Or that she made no noise or movement to show she was responding to what you were doing to her? My advice would be, if you're shagging a corpse, say to her 'I think we should stop, because clearly you aren't enjoying yourself' That would either start a conversation so hopefully improve the meet, or give her something to think about for the future. And yes I have done this with a guy!! " Good advice, if it's tried and tested then I'll be using it next time I get it on with this lass who turns into a corpse in the bedroom, hopefully she'll be less stiff so I can be more stiff! | |||
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"We boil and mash em" That comment really made me chuckle LOL | |||
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"I think the difference is that men can get aroused very quickly but most women need more time to get to that place so yes initially I would say yes it is up to the guy to make sure his partner is fully aroused. Also some women aren't always good at asking for what they want. I've done a lot of Tantra workshops and the philosophy was always to pleasure the woman first. And then you'll get back so much more from her! I would suggest that if a woman is attending a club or an organised meet and is not already turned on by the situation it's self. ( and no i don't mean fully aroused, but at least mildly moist) then she shouldn't be swinging. It sounds more like she needs a man whore." It's finding I can context with the person on some level that turns me on not the social situation. No one should go to a club with the anticipation of a guaranteed shag | |||
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"So just to get more info....was it that she wouldn't touch you, suck your cock? Or that she made no noise or movement to show she was responding to what you were doing to her? My advice would be, if you're shagging a corpse, say to her 'I think we should stop, because clearly you aren't enjoying yourself' That would either start a conversation so hopefully improve the meet, or give her something to think about for the future. And yes I have done this with a guy!! " This is a hypothetical, retaliatory post not based on actual events. | |||
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"I think the difference is that men can get aroused very quickly but most women need more time to get to that place so yes initially I would say yes it is up to the guy to make sure his partner is fully aroused. Also some women aren't always good at asking for what they want. I've done a lot of Tantra workshops and the philosophy was always to pleasure the woman first. And then you'll get back so much more from her! I would suggest that if a woman is attending a club or an organised meet and is not already turned on by the situation it's self. ( and no i don't mean fully aroused, but at least mildly moist) then she shouldn't be swinging. It sounds more like she needs a man whore. It's finding I can context with the person on some level that turns me on not the social situation. No one should go to a club with the anticipation of a guaranteed shag " *connect not context | |||
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"I think the difference is that men can get aroused very quickly but most women need more time to get to that place so yes initially I would say yes it is up to the guy to make sure his partner is fully aroused. Also some women aren't always good at asking for what they want. I've done a lot of Tantra workshops and the philosophy was always to pleasure the woman first. And then you'll get back so much more from her! I would suggest that if a woman is attending a club or an organised meet and is not already turned on by the situation it's self. ( and no i don't mean fully aroused, but at least mildly moist) then she shouldn't be swinging. It sounds more like she needs a man whore. It's finding I can context with the person on some level that turns me on not the social situation. No one should go to a club with the anticipation of a guaranteed shag *connect not context " In fact you shouldn't go to a meet anticipating sex there's always a chance the spark fizzles out in person | |||
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" The other thread didn't blame men. Admittedly I skimmed it...but most of the posts I read were blaming men (and trends in modern porn). Even the thread title was blaming the man. " Fair point. However if a guy (or woman) starts painfully ramming his/ her fingers into you with no warning, that's his/ her fault. If the woman lies there and lets them if she doesn't want them to, she's at fault. | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing!" Yes i think the other thread covered that point quite well thank you. | |||
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"So just to get more info....was it that she wouldn't touch you, suck your cock? Or that she made no noise or movement to show she was responding to what you were doing to her? My advice would be, if you're shagging a corpse, say to her 'I think we should stop, because clearly you aren't enjoying yourself' That would either start a conversation so hopefully improve the meet, or give her something to think about for the future. And yes I have done this with a guy!! This is a hypothetical, retaliatory post not based on actual events. " It's still a valid subject! | |||
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"So just to get more info....was it that she wouldn't touch you, suck your cock? Or that she made no noise or movement to show she was responding to what you were doing to her? My advice would be, if you're shagging a corpse, say to her 'I think we should stop, because clearly you aren't enjoying yourself' That would either start a conversation so hopefully improve the meet, or give her something to think about for the future. And yes I have done this with a guy!! This is a hypothetical, retaliatory post not based on actual events. It's still a valid subject! " Oh i know. But there's no point in asking me about my experience with the afore mentioned "sack". | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! Yes i think the other thread covered that point quite well thank you." I missed that one and was commenting on this one.. | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! Yes i think the other thread covered that point quite well thank you. I missed that one and was commenting on this one.." X | |||
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"I would wake her up and tell her I was finished" | |||
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"We boil and mash em" You beat me to it, but you forgot to add milk and butter?? Xx | |||
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"Stick it up her bum with out warning?" Yep, that would definitely wake me up! | |||
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"If a woman just lays on her back that's fine , I will just get on top of her and fill her pussy with cum sex is sex at the end of the day lol" You smoothe talking bugger | |||
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"Maybe she's like sleeping beauty and needs to have the right interaction, to awaken her from her slumber. Are you a fella who's just doing the same old and haven't inspired her? Play is a two way street but helping someone to think she's a sack of spuds isn't going to be uplifting nor energising. Go back to basics. If you've gotten this far, then maybe you didn't get the earlier parts right. Was the meet really at the right time? How well and how much/well did you really communicate qualitatively more than a 'fancy a fuck' message? If it's not going right for you - whichever gender we are - then stop, if you're at a loss to know what to do. Start interacting differently. " I think you're taking this far to seriously. But bless you for trying x | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" Cut their eyes out. Rub them hard. Fork them and do them for an hour. Then add butter before entering the brown bit | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit? Be interesting to see this thread in comparison to the "why do blokes treat me like a piece of meat and try to just copy porn" thread. " | |||
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"If life gives you potatoes make chunky chips. Anyone just lying there would be really of putting to me... I would be likely to make my excuses to exit stage left. " In my experience of working on the stage, I would tend to advise exiting stage right, not left- stage left tends to be to dressing rooms and Fire Exit, however, stage right tends to have the short cut to the theatre bar!!! X | |||
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"If life gives you potatoes make chunky chips. Anyone just lying there would be really of putting to me... I would be likely to make my excuses to exit stage left. In my experience of working on the stage, I would tend to advise exiting stage right, not left- stage left tends to be to dressing rooms and Fire Exit, however, stage right tends to have the short cut to the theatre bar!!! X" Yea if they exit my bedroom stage left they're jumping out my window, so I'd advise exiting to the right too, using the stairs is much safer | |||
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"Stick it up her bum with out warning? Yep, that would definitely wake me up! " I'm available for alarm calls :p | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" It's a quandary and no mistake. I have been known to feel guilty after a meet I and someone else thoroughly enjoyed since I spent part of it tied up and unable to move around a bit. I am naturally lazy so I loved it though. | |||
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"I would try get her more involved and talk to her about what she likes when having fun and what she might like to try out. Has this happened to you recently? First sentence gets a from me. Ask what we like, if possible, before the meet. " I tried to reply to your message but it won't let me now. J x | |||
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"Bloody hell, they're lucky I even agreed to meet them, let alone let them fuck me. Why I should actually do anything while they fuck me is a step too far " PP I would actually put them on top of a truck heading to Dover and send them back to France where they came from or take them down the morgue they could be dead xxx | |||
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"I suppose you could say oh bitch im giving it my all here so join in or fuck off " Yeah, but I could never speak to a lady like that... | |||
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"If life gives you potatoes make chunky chips. Anyone just lying there would be really of putting to me... I would be likely to make my excuses to exit stage left. In my experience of working on the stage, I would tend to advise exiting stage right, not left- stage left tends to be to dressing rooms and Fire Exit, however, stage right tends to have the short cut to the theatre bar!!! X Yea if they exit my bedroom stage left they're jumping out my window, so I'd advise exiting to the right too, using the stairs is much safer " Lol | |||
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"I would try get her more involved and talk to her about what she likes when having fun and what she might like to try out. Has this happened to you recently? First sentence gets a from me. Ask what we like, if possible, before the meet. I tried to reply to your message but it won't let me now. J x " Well in fairness, she only said she liked that sound of that, she never said she wanted to receive it from you | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing!" I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? | |||
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"Hard finger blast or tea bagging Music to my ears ! What modern woman doesn't enjoy a dam good tea bagging!?" more a coffee woman myself lol | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" Surely this conversation happens before a meet ?! | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit? Surely this conversation happens before a meet ?!" What the "I think you're a bit shit at this sex lark" conversation? | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard?" Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" What's it like to fuck a sack of spuds does it chaff your dick | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit? Surely this conversation happens before a meet ?!" No because until they've shagged them they don't know how shit they are | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself " Have a word with myself? | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself?" Personally I'd choose tidbit, a lovely word | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself?" Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 ! | |||
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"They've been watching too much of that potato based porn. Thinking all they've got to do to please a man is just lie there, maybe covered in oil if they're pushing the boat out. So selfish, and it's an increasing problem on here." Oh a bit of catyness there. | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself? Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 !" Which has nothing at all to do with what he said. He said he couldn't understand how a woman could want to do it | |||
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"The pleasure should be mutual. Like the saying goes "it takes two to tango!" So both should contribute to the experience as it's shared. Having said that, some people are simply not in synch with each other sexually. Oh well! " I got a stich so made her go on top | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard?" what are you on about, I'm sure you will find most women will do something because they want to not because its a duty, and if they are doing it out of duty more fool them | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself " More than happy to suck cock. It's more the attitude of the guy not even touching me but expecting me to unzip and service him. Isn't it a mutual thing having sex? Unless it's been agreed first of course. | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?What's it like to fuck a sack of spuds does it chaff your dick " not sure but I once got frostbite from shagging a bag of frozen chips | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself? Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 ! Which has nothing at all to do with what he said. He said he couldn't understand how a woman could want to do it " He also said he felt like he was degrading the lady...which would only be the case if the woman didn't want to do it, surely? | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" Have a chat first to relax and find out likes and dislikes. If then she still lays there like a sack of potatoes.... Suggest different positions | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself? Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 ! Which has nothing at all to do with what he said. He said he couldn't understand how a woman could want to do it He also said he felt like he was degrading the lady...which would only be the case if the woman didn't want to do it, surely?" Which is consistent with him saying he can't understand why a woman would want to do it... Tbh it's not exactly surprising that a straight man finds the thought of sucking cock unpleasant. | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself? Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 ! Which has nothing at all to do with what he said. He said he couldn't understand how a woman could want to do it " To me, it read like he thinks women are too ladylike to really enjoy sucking cock and it's just a way to degrade them. I may be wrong | |||
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"It's the ones that only stay hard in ur mouth n go soft in ur cunt that perplex me " Depending on position it's much easier to think about someone you fancy during a blow job than during sex | |||
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" Which is consistent with him saying he can't understand why a woman would want to do it... Tbh it's not exactly surprising that a straight man finds the thought of sucking cock unpleasant." No it isn't. But to think that women get no pleasure from it and to say that he doesn't understand why women do it, I just find a bit odd. It very much came across like "i have loads of respect for women and wouldn't dream of asking them to do something so degrading". that's how I took it anyway hence why I said what I said. Anyway I'm having my sack of spuds roasted with strangled chicken that's what I'd do with them | |||
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"It's the ones that only stay hard in ur mouth n go soft in ur cunt that perplex me Depending on position it's much easier to think about someone you fancy during a blow job than during sex " Lmao I asked for that didn't I xxxx | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" I leave | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself? Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 ! Which has nothing at all to do with what he said. He said he couldn't understand how a woman could want to do it To me, it read like he thinks women are too ladylike to really enjoy sucking cock and it's just a way to degrade them. I may be wrong " That's basically how I feel- I don't enjoy it because I'm sure she can't be wanting to do it. I feel like a horrible person if I enjoy it. I really don't think I'm making this clear am I? I must apologise if I'm offending anybody , man or woman... | |||
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"It's the ones that only stay hard in ur mouth n go soft in ur cunt that perplex me Depending on position it's much easier to think about someone you fancy during a blow job than during sex " And you don't have to look at her face during a bj | |||
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" Which is consistent with him saying he can't understand why a woman would want to do it... Tbh it's not exactly surprising that a straight man finds the thought of sucking cock unpleasant. No it isn't. But to think that women get no pleasure from it and to say that he doesn't understand why women do it, I just find a bit odd. It very much came across like "i have loads of respect for women and wouldn't dream of asking them to do something so degrading". that's how I took it anyway hence why I said what I said. Anyway I'm having my sack of spuds roasted with strangled chicken that's what I'd do with them " You put that better than I could - that's basically how I feel | |||
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"I've had guys just lie there and expect a bj..there are selfish people of both sexes. Sometimes I think it's just what people are used to doing! I never could expect a bj. To be honest, I can't relax and 'enjoy' it as I feel that I am degrading the lady as I honestly can't see how she can possibly want to be doing it. I like ( or LOVE ) giving her oral and I often wonder if she feels the same about it as I do? Am I thinking too hard? Yes you're right. I feel sorry for those poor women that have to force themselves to suck on a guys cock. After all, it isn't lady like to take a cock in ones mouth. Eurgh!! It doesn't get more degrading! Have a word with yourself Have a word with myself? Yes. Women aren't the victims when it comes to having sex. We've come a long way from the good old days when it was a woman's duty to satisfy her man. Women these days perform a sexual act because they want to. So yes have a word with yourself to remind yourself it's 2015 ! Which has nothing at all to do with what he said. He said he couldn't understand how a woman could want to do it To me, it read like he thinks women are too ladylike to really enjoy sucking cock and it's just a way to degrade them. I may be wrong That's basically how I feel- I don't enjoy it because I'm sure she can't be wanting to do it. I feel like a horrible person if I enjoy it. I really don't think I'm making this clear am I? I must apologise if I'm offending anybody , man or woman..." You need to change your mindset then because lots of women love doing it. And not enjoying it is a bit of a slap in the face to the woman giving you the bj. It's a turn on knowing you're doing something that brings pleasure to a man. So bloody well enjoy it | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" You've blown it up too tight, let some air out of her, hey presto! | |||
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"It's the ones that only stay hard in ur mouth n go soft in ur cunt that perplex me Depending on position it's much easier to think about someone you fancy during a blow job than during sex And you don't have to look at her face during a bj " Ok ok ok I get the hint...... *goes to find the paper bags* | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" you didn't say if she was tied up and couldn't move ,bound and gagged so to speak ,I've only come across this once and she was liverpudlian enough said | |||
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"How come if men mention the weak spot of women.You will be branded as misogynist.wheras misandrist synonyms is most associated with most female critics.we should be fair and balance ." yes I agree most women tell me they love me so to address the balance we ought to tell them wether we mean it or not | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" Perhaps a finger shoved in ones ass get her moving a little lol | |||
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"After ensnaring a lovely sub girl, think I'm gonna have to give her the heave ho for being a sack of spuds. I'm a top but still want passion, not a passive princess " Ha ah, that brought a wry smile | |||
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"Sounds to me like the impetus is being put on the man to make a good meet. "Find out what she likes first" "what have YOU done to get her fully aroused". It takes 2 to tango. Women especially swingers should be confident enough to take the lead when playing. (and you can lead without being on top as it were). When i play with men I'm always "the girl" but using my body language i can always show him what i want. With no pre-job brief. I think the onus is often put on the man and they frequently accept the responsibility, I often see phrases such as "it's all about the lady's pleasure" the infamous "I could lick for hours" "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure". Sex, any sex is about all parties taking responsibility for their own pleasure in my opinion. Some people will still be crap though " I'm going to have to defend the "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure" school of thought... Numerous times over the decades I've proved if you ensure the woman is fully satisfied she invariably will reciprocate in ways she never thought she would, or does things she categorically stated she wouldn't do. | |||
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"Sounds to me like the impetus is being put on the man to make a good meet. "Find out what she likes first" "what have YOU done to get her fully aroused". It takes 2 to tango. Women especially swingers should be confident enough to take the lead when playing. (and you can lead without being on top as it were). When i play with men I'm always "the girl" but using my body language i can always show him what i want. With no pre-job brief. I think the onus is often put on the man and they frequently accept the responsibility, I often see phrases such as "it's all about the lady's pleasure" the infamous "I could lick for hours" "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure". Sex, any sex is about all parties taking responsibility for their own pleasure in my opinion. Some people will still be crap though I'm going to have to defend the "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure" school of thought... Numerous times over the decades I've proved if you ensure the woman is fully satisfied she invariably will reciprocate in ways she never thought she would, or does things she categorically stated she wouldn't do." But how do you know how to ensure the woman is fully satisfied if she doesn't take responsibility for telling you? I agree though that a man making the effort to listen and find out is a powerful aphrodisiac. | |||
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"Sounds to me like the impetus is being put on the man to make a good meet. "Find out what she likes first" "what have YOU done to get her fully aroused". It takes 2 to tango. Women especially swingers should be confident enough to take the lead when playing. (and you can lead without being on top as it were). When i play with men I'm always "the girl" but using my body language i can always show him what i want. With no pre-job brief. I think the onus is often put on the man and they frequently accept the responsibility, I often see phrases such as "it's all about the lady's pleasure" the infamous "I could lick for hours" "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure". Sex, any sex is about all parties taking responsibility for their own pleasure in my opinion. Some people will still be crap though I'm going to have to defend the "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure" school of thought... Numerous times over the decades I've proved if you ensure the woman is fully satisfied she invariably will reciprocate in ways she never thought she would, or does things she categorically stated she wouldn't do. But how do you know how to ensure the woman is fully satisfied if she doesn't take responsibility for telling you? I agree though that a man making the effort to listen and find out is a powerful aphrodisiac. " Not to blow my own trumpet (ribs get in the way) but I'm quite adept at reading reactions. Plus, I'm all for communication, likes and dislikes, beforehand. And, if necessary, during and after. | |||
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"Sounds to me like the impetus is being put on the man to make a good meet. "Find out what she likes first" "what have YOU done to get her fully aroused". It takes 2 to tango. Women especially swingers should be confident enough to take the lead when playing. (and you can lead without being on top as it were). When i play with men I'm always "the girl" but using my body language i can always show him what i want. With no pre-job brief. I think the onus is often put on the man and they frequently accept the responsibility, I often see phrases such as "it's all about the lady's pleasure" the infamous "I could lick for hours" "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure". Sex, any sex is about all parties taking responsibility for their own pleasure in my opinion. Some people will still be crap though I'm going to have to defend the "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure" school of thought... Numerous times over the decades I've proved if you ensure the woman is fully satisfied she invariably will reciprocate in ways she never thought she would, or does things she categorically stated she wouldn't do. But how do you know how to ensure the woman is fully satisfied if she doesn't take responsibility for telling you? I agree though that a man making the effort to listen and find out is a powerful aphrodisiac. Not to blow my own trumpet (ribs get in the way) but I'm quite adept at reading reactions. Plus, I'm all for communication, likes and dislikes, beforehand. And, if necessary, during and after." I suspect that we're probably in broad agreement on this just approaching it from different angles. | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit?" I would take the time to talk to them ask them what turns them on and kiss/touch eroginous zones and find out what hits the spot. Having said that some women do just lay there no matter what you do | |||
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"Sounds to me like the impetus is being put on the man to make a good meet. "Find out what she likes first" "what have YOU done to get her fully aroused". It takes 2 to tango. Women especially swingers should be confident enough to take the lead when playing. (and you can lead without being on top as it were). When i play with men I'm always "the girl" but using my body language i can always show him what i want. With no pre-job brief. I think the onus is often put on the man and they frequently accept the responsibility, I often see phrases such as "it's all about the lady's pleasure" the infamous "I could lick for hours" "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure". Sex, any sex is about all parties taking responsibility for their own pleasure in my opinion. Some people will still be crap though I'm going to have to defend the "I always make sure the lady is satisfied before I think of my pleasure" school of thought... Numerous times over the decades I've proved if you ensure the woman is fully satisfied she invariably will reciprocate in ways she never thought she would, or does things she categorically stated she wouldn't do. But how do you know how to ensure the woman is fully satisfied if she doesn't take responsibility for telling you? I agree though that a man making the effort to listen and find out is a powerful aphrodisiac. Not to blow my own trumpet (ribs get in the way) but I'm quite adept at reading reactions. Plus, I'm all for communication, likes and dislikes, beforehand. And, if necessary, during and after. I suspect that we're probably in broad agreement on this just approaching it from different angles. " I'll grab my protractor and see if we can discover some new ones | |||
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"This only happened to me once, in in club. A couple came into a room as I was getting my breath back, th male and I talked, the lady barely said a word. He said she was shy, so fair enough. Then she lies back and he starts kissing her nipple, so I think I'm in for a nice show. But the guy is motioning me to her other nipple with his eyes. So, off I go, but there was no feedback whatsoever from her. I tried working my way down to see if I got told to stop and get back to the boob. Nothing. The guy pulls her knickers aside, so I give her a little lick, then I lot more little licks. Still nothing. So I stopped, and left them to it. " Sounds like she might have been a zombie. Did any bits come off in your mouth? | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit? Surely this conversation happens before a meet ?! What the "I think you're a bit shit at this sex lark" conversation?" no, the, 'so what are you into?' conversation. | |||
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"Do you just get it over with and get the hell outta dodge? Or spend time communicating with them, bringing them out of their shell to let them learn that it's "ok" to move around a bit? It's a quandary and no mistake. I have been known to feel guilty after a meet I and someone else thoroughly enjoyed since I spent part of it tied up and unable to move around a bit. I am naturally lazy so I loved it though." I was just about to ask "what if she just lay there because that's where you tied her?"! | |||
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