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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Discussion on another thread about what does and doesn't make someone a prostitute.
Is it ok for married couples to have sex with strangers for free?
Is it ok for people to pay to attend clubs to have sex with strangers?
What is the big difference that means it's ok as long as that money doesn't pass directly to the person they are fucking?
Why does anyone in 'this lifestyle' think it's ok to look down on prostitution? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's a difference between business and pleasure. The prostitutes are having sex for your cash, swingers are having sex for yours and theirs pleasure."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have no problem with prostitution, actually. I think it should be legalized.
However, I do get insulted when I am offered money because my motivation is not money. I shag who I want, not who pays me the most. It feels like a friend handing you some bills when you help them move...it's insulting.
-Courtney |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If it prevents wierdo's raping and stalking etc, then its not a bad thing. But with trafficking and people forced into it, drug habbits etc, it comes with its drawbacks. As does swinging. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It doesn't have to just be money for it to be classed as prostitution. For example, on a vanilla site a woman told me if I bought her a bottle of vodka and some she'd have sex with me. Someone else told me they'd have sex with me for a bottle of Chanel No 5. I declined both of them. This site, for me at least, is all about mutual pleasure rather than gain. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no problem with prostitution, actually. I think it should be legalized.
However, I do get insulted when I am offered money because my motivation is not money. I shag who I want, not who pays me the most. It feels like a friend handing you some bills when you help them move...it's insulting.
-Courtney"
This. However, I prefer to offer bottles of wine or dinner as a thank you. Ya know, something thoughtful and based on their preferences |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no problem with prostitution, actually. I think it should be legalized.
However, I do get insulted when I am offered money because my motivation is not money. I shag who I want, not who pays me the most. It feels like a friend handing you some bills when you help them move...it's insulting.
-Courtney"
Prostitution is legal, just not on the street |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have no problem with prostitution, actually. I think it should be legalized.
However, I do get insulted when I am offered money because my motivation is not money. I shag who I want, not who pays me the most. It feels like a friend handing you some bills when you help them move...it's insulting.
-Courtney
Prostitution is legal, just not on the street"
I know.... It was a slip cuz it's not legal in the US.  Ignore that part of my comment. I meant that it shouldn't be frowned upon quite like it is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would take a bottle or bottles of something for us to share on the night of the meet if that would make the meet relaxed and more sociable, however i wouldnt take a case of wine as a present as that would be construed as payment and prostitution.
I commented on the other thread you refer to OP and it appears to me those that have an issue with calling those who request money or gifts for sex prostitutes are probably the same people who ask for these things and do not like the stigma that attatches itself to them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As a single woman on fab I've had plenty of offers of paid meets. Often by people who haven't approached me before, suggesting some people find money to be a shortcut for sex rather than, y'know, talking to me.
To be entirely honest though, I'd rather do sex for money than stack shelves again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes couples should fuck strangers for free otherwise the husband is pimping his wife to be a prostitute."
What if the wife is pimping the husband out, Shag?
-Courtney |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have no issues with prostitution, each to their own - but would totally agree with the comments made already - Swingers meet for pleasure - Prostitutes meet for cash & although there might be a % of them that actually enjoy the sex side, its still money for sex 
I think the OP was / is brave to open this subject up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"As a single woman on fab I've had plenty of offers of paid meets. Often by people who haven't approached me before, suggesting some people find money to be a shortcut for sex rather than, y'know, talking to me.
To be entirely honest though, I'd rather do sex for money than stack shelves again. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes couples should fuck strangers for free otherwise the husband is pimping his wife to be a prostitute.
What if the wife is pimping the husband out, Shag?
-Courtney"
Not sure as its not as common I recon? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes couples should fuck strangers for free otherwise the husband is pimping his wife to be a prostitute.
What if the wife is pimping the husband out, Shag?
-CourtneyNot sure as its not as common I recon?"
You never know  |
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Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes couples should fuck strangers for free otherwise the husband is pimping his wife to be a prostitute.
What if the wife is pimping the husband out, Shag?
-CourtneyNot sure as its not as common I recon?
You never know "
Neither me. Recon it would be the same thing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution?"
Have you ever had sex with someone you bought a drink in a pub or club? Did you consider them to be a prostitute?
Personally, I wouldn't see that as prostitution. |
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"Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution?
Have you ever had sex with someone you bought a drink in a pub or club? Did you consider them to be a prostitute?
Personally, I wouldn't see that as prostitution."
Well I'd like to think they fancied me after the drink but I wouldn't consider them to be was more just a thought in my head the radio show did go on to say would it have been different if the guy had not bought the meal/wine etc and just given the cash over, obviously it is but more a suggestion of where do you draw the line as to what is a gift as part of a date and at what point does a gift become payment |
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By *annooWoman
over a year ago
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I know this one of them subject
I dnt see a problem with prostitution its out there and it exists
I've been offered money for sex in the site
I've been offered to have all expenses paid
I've always been wary of this because i dnt want be seen as a prostitute and I dnt want to be expected to sleep with someone who I made arrangements with for a good time which is what I joined fab for.
However at the same time I'm not well off,I dnt have my own place,I dnt do outdoor meets...so it makes it all complex at times
Sorry I dnt mean to offend anyone |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There's a program on BBC3 tonight about it that might be worth a look at 9pm. It is good that the subtle campaign to legalize it and stop all the hypocrisy that surrounds is aired a little.
Luckily, I have no need to visit prostitutes but I have absolutely no problem with it as long as the girls involved are not co-erced and do it of their own free will, which I accept is hard to guarantee it's live and let live for me all the way. |
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I have no problems with prostitutes who charge, the guys know the deal.
My bug bare on here is women who demand presents of underwear, perfume, top hotels, dinner out, evenings out all on the guy with no promise of sex.
But then if guys are going to give in to the demands more fool them.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution?
Have you ever had sex with someone you bought a drink in a pub or club? Did you consider them to be a prostitute?
Personally, I wouldn't see that as prostitution.
Well I'd like to think they fancied me after the drink but I wouldn't consider them to be was more just a thought in my head the radio show did go on to say would it have been different if the guy had not bought the meal/wine etc and just given the cash over, obviously it is but more a suggestion of where do you draw the line as to what is a gift as part of a date and at what point does a gift become payment "
I would suggest that prostitution is pre-arranged and the 'payment' has already been agreed. Sex after a 'date' is more spontaneous but for sure, there are grey areas. |
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Prostitution don't always involve money, favours, holidays, house parties charging fees etc the list goes on.
If it involves sex and money most things border on prostitution if some one/a club/a company are earning extra money after covering reasonable expenses.
Prostitution is earning money through sex or implied sex so this includes girls guys clubs profiting from there activities.
Girl working alone are legal but two girls like a swinging house party charging money becomes a brothel and becomes illegal.
Check out local government polices as some councils are different like the differences between north and south, the north are allowed drinks licenses where down south its almost impossible to get a drinks licence in a sex establishment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Prostitution is different from swinging or casual sex because prostitution is a transaction based around money, done to fulfil two (or more) peoples needs for separate things. One person will likely be getting sexually fulfilled and the other person will not and sex isn't their motive for meeting.
"Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution?"
I think it's an obligation and not prostitution, she felt he had given her something so she should give him something in return. Part of a patriarchal system where the women becomes dependent on a man because he has financial power. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Prostitution is different from swinging or casual sex because prostitution is a transaction based around money, done to fulfil two (or more) peoples needs for separate things. One person will likely be getting sexually fulfilled and the other person will not and sex isn't their motive for meeting.
Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution?
I think it's an obligation and not prostitution, she felt he had given her something so she should give him something in return. Part of a patriarchal system where the women becomes dependent on a man because he has financial power."
Patriarchal system? Jesus, they went out for dinner for God's sake and she may have slept with him because she found him attractive - only the two people involved will know how it worked on the night and led to consensual sex, whatever spin anyone else wants to put on it. If he asked her out and was, therefore, kind of the host then perhaps it was right that he paid. I doubt that she felt any kind of 'obligation' much less part of Patriarchal male conspiracy.
True 'equality' means on dates the bill is split. Yeah, coz this happens all the time and most women are perfectly content to go along with it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If you're only fucking someone because you want the money you're a prostitute. Clubs and regular party hosts can't pay for venues,security etc out of their own pockets so they charge. But,they make a profit and I can imagine that profit could become addictive to some and the money becomes more important than the people attending. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I know quite a few escorts and money isn't their motivator, it's a nice perk. They get a kick out of it, sexually. Or having power over the men they play with.
I don't look down on prostitution. At all. I hope it's all consensual and safe. And even if anyone was doing it for financial reasons, I take my imaginary hat off to them. If they need to find a way to provide or survive, so be it.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've never done it, but the thought of being paid to meet someone really turns me on...
I agree with what others have said, so long as it's not harming anyone I think it's a positive thing... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I commented on the other thread you refer to OP and it appears to me those that have an issue with calling those who request money or gifts for sex prostitutes are probably the same people who ask for these things and do not like the stigma that attatches itself to them"
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Slightly twisting the subject but I remember a radio discussion a few years back which played out the situation of a lass going on a date with a guy that turned out not exactly her type but passable, he paid for a meal, wine, a show and taxi etc and she let him have some fun because he had stumped up a fair amount of cash, is that in a way prostitution?
Have you ever had sex with someone you bought a drink in a pub or club? Did you consider them to be a prostitute?
Personally, I wouldn't see that as prostitution.
Well I'd like to think they fancied me after the drink but I wouldn't consider them to be was more just a thought in my head the radio show did go on to say would it have been different if the guy had not bought the meal/wine etc and just given the cash over, obviously it is but more a suggestion of where do you draw the line as to what is a gift as part of a date and at what point does a gift become payment "
Exactly my point....
It's not clear cut. No matter how people try to convince themselves. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I worked as an escort or (prostitute if preferred) for over ten years. And found i got a much better standard of man than would generally populate websites trawling for sex. They were generally better mannered as they were paying for your time and service. Unfortunately 90% of the people that contact me on here would of been incapable of getting an appointment due to their attitude. I seen who I wanted, when I wanted, and on my terms. Lived a good lifestyle, met some fantastic people and travelled the world. And it was legal. |
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