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Meeting people in their house. Do you fear hidden secret camera recording the action .?
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I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well |
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We Met a Guy in His Home - And after a Couples of minutes in the Door - He Said He Just needed to Shut His Laptop Down and went off to the corner of the room and fiddled with the lappy for a minute or so .. but when he came back it looked like he had left it open and it was still on.. !!!
Made us feel weird and we left not long after..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I bought a teddy bear and its nose was the cam. When sold its for a child monitor.
Nowadays they come in whatever you like.
Have a peek round the room.
They have wireless webcams too.
So look if theres piles of washing.
Could be really harsh but protect your self by taking a contract...lol
Na, seriously theres nothing you can do.
Just be vigalent.
If you smell gas.......run. Xx |
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over a year ago
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
Yeah it's another very good reason not to go to people's houses ![](/icons/thumb_up.png) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I thought I was OTT because I always scan the rooms for any recording devices and don't allow open laptops...glad to hear I'm not the only suspicious one. |
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"I have a fear of this at parties cas there are so many people.....little bit scary!!"
We went to a party once where they were snapping away ... I had made it clear before we went that I did not want to be in any photos. A previous verification of theirs had stated that a couple were pleasantly surprised to be given a collection of snaps from the evening at the end of it ... needless to say I did not play and we did not stay there too long. A very presumptuous invasion of privacy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The chances of a recording device being set up in someone's home are low. The chances you won't notice are lower. That being said, we like to meet in our own home because we like to keep all our own footage
Seriously, though, I think this is more a problem at private parties, as others have mentioned. We went to one party where we ended up leaving early because people had their phones out, texting, which made us uncomfortable. Clubs are definitely best in this regard. In my opinion anyway.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Met a lady off another site and perched on top of the fireplace was a tablet pc, so I just simply asked if she was filming, turns out her bloke was watching, which I didn't have an issue with as such but it would have been nice to have known before hand... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I hadn't thought about it til now.I guess if they start asking if you to move into different spots or just turn this or that way,it might be a bit suspicious... |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
So they couldn't possibly set up a hidden camera in a hotel room?
If pure going to be that paranoid then maybe it's best to not meet, or stick to clubs.
Or - just turn up at all meets wearing this.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I met a couple at theirs on my last profile.... Un be knowing to me they put the web cam on didnt no till after i was fuming!! If they wuda asked id more than likely have said yes the fact it was a big secret was so wrong in my eyes x ![](/icons/s/2/eh.gif) |
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
I must say I am more worried about being murdered so don't visit |
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Setting up a spy cam in hotel room is unlikely compared to peoples home.Reason. People's homes is more cluttered with hidden object compared to hotel room. A lot of voyeuristic people lurk fab. Believe in your instinct. If you feel uncomfortable with any situation. Walk away. |
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"It's illegal under the voyeurism section (s.67) of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.
Things being illegal doesn't stop people doing them......"
I'm not suggesting it does, merely that it is possible to take action if you find out they have.
Perhaps, also, if more people realised it's illegal, and the potential impact, (it's a sex offence so it's entirely possible those convicted will end up on a register for life), they might reconsider doing it. |
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"It's illegal under the voyeurism section (s.67) of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.
Things being illegal doesn't stop people doing them......
I'm not suggesting it does, merely that it is possible to take action if you find out they have.
Perhaps, also, if more people realised it's illegal, and the potential impact, (it's a sex offence so it's entirely possible those convicted will end up on a register for life), they might reconsider doing it."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Setting up a spy cam in hotel room is unlikely compared to peoples home.Reason. People's homes is more cluttered with hidden object compared to hotel room. A lot of voyeuristic people lurk fab. Believe in your instinct. If you feel uncomfortable with any situation. Walk away. "
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over a year ago
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We have openly filmed most of our meets for our own future enjoyment. We always ask and to date only one guy said no, so we did not. We would never film without others knowing.
With modern technology it is easy to film without the people knowing, even in a hotel, so if anyone feels particularly disturbed by the idea I suggest they stop meeting strangers for sex or only meet at your own home where you have control.
Having said this it would appear to me that this fear of being filmed must really screw up the enjoyment of those affected. I wonder, do they trawl the googleplex of bytes on the WWW every spare moment to see if an image of their cock or pussy has been uploaded?
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over a year ago
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I had this happen to me - I met a married women off Fab a couple of years ago, and went to meet her at her home while her husband was out.
We had a wonderful time, but later she told me that there had been a video camera hidden in the room and she'd recorded the whole thing for her husband to watch.
Nothing that you can do about it after the event, and you have no control over what happens to the recording - left me feeling sick and totally used...
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By *ee VianteWoman
over a year ago
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"I had this happen to me - I met a married women off Fab a couple of years ago, and went to meet her at her home while her husband was out.
We had a wonderful time, but later she told me that there had been a video camera hidden in the room and she'd recorded the whole thing for her husband to watch.
Nothing that you can do about it after the event, and you have no control over what happens to the recording - left me feeling sick and totally used...
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You can do something about it after the event, if you're willing to go to the police. It's not legal to film people without their knowledge in situations where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Ideally you'd get proof of her telling you about the recording. |
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"I had this happen to me - I met a married women off Fab a couple of years ago, and went to meet her at her home while her husband was out.
We had a wonderful time, but later she told me that there had been a video camera hidden in the room and she'd recorded the whole thing for her husband to watch.
Nothing that you can do about it after the event, and you have no control over what happens to the recording - left me feeling sick and totally used...
You can do something about it after the event, if you're willing to go to the police. It's not legal to film people without their knowledge in situations where they have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Ideally you'd get proof of her telling you about the recording."
Yes, I think that I would if that happened now - but back then I was still feeling a bit new to all this, and was in a fairly vulnerable state of mind, so I didn't.
And I had very little proof - she only told me verbally, in private, the next (and last!!!) time that we met.
As is so often the case, it's one thing to say that the law is on your side - it's quite a different issue to actually stand up and invoke those powers. Especially so if you have grown up at a time when violence towards and abuse of women was very much more open and commonplace, and know what it's like to be left in a bleeding mess just for complaining...
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A couple I play with on a regular basis have pics of me on their profile.I think they have also uploaded pics to another site.I'm single and don't have to worry about what others think.I'm more concerned about looking fit and toned!This doesn't mean that I condone the actions of people who film without permission though.I do understand the concerns of people who have experienced this! |
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over a year ago
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
Well now I do! going to have to get one of those bug scanner things and check from now on! ![](/icons/s/sad.gif) |
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over a year ago
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Nope. Can't say that it's even entered my head - and judging by some of the comments here, it's not something that's occurred to others either - but now you've given them something to think about.
Just when I was about to install a covert CCTV system too
(Yes, I AM joking)
Then again, I do show 'film-making' in my interests, so from my point of view, if someone wants to make a recording of me playing at theirs, they only need ask. |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
What and you think that someone couldn't secretly film at a hotel, club or party?
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With mini Digital Go-Pro Hd spy camera with 128 gig of data storage with DVD quality.The temptation is there. Trust nobody
To be on the safe side. Is better to arrange a meet in a hotel .so that Both of you should check in at the same time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Ask for the lights to be turned off and light a candle. At least if you are being filmed it will hopefully be unclear in the poor light."
What about night vision.....
make sure to check behind large mirrors too!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Feck I must be way to trusting, I would never secretly film someone and just assume no one else would
Someone pass me the Dunce Hat ...
Im away to sit in the corner ![](/icons/s/2/eh.gif) |
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well
What and you think that someone couldn't secretly film at a hotel, club or party?
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This!
Plus as long as you do your normal checks, including turning on the twat detector, use honesty both ways, like to think most of the guys would be upfront. Plus we generally film everything for our own use well stumpy's lol ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By *ENDAROOSCouple
over a year ago
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"The official stat is that 1 in 12 private meets are secretly filmed."
I heard from someone that heard from someone that heard from someone else, that's its actually 1 in 5.
But your totally safe if its a hotel meet.
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I have thought about this I have to admit. And it's one of the reasons why I like to book hotels myself so I'm the one in the room waiting for them, not the other way round. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Glad to see it's not just me who's thought that. Did you know any loudspeaker can be converted into a microphone by the tech competent? Just read that in Steve Job's autobiography |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Op , you just opened Pandora's box. Now everyone will be paranoid when going into someone's house.
Now people are going to be asking weird questions. Like
Can I see your smoke detector?
Can I look into that dirty pile of clothes?
Can I see your laptop/ iPad?
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As a person that does use cctv I have had covert cctv inside the house mainly to catch any intruder whilst out of the property
would I ever use it when meeting no as I respect there privacy as well as my own
therefore inside the property it is unplugged from the cctv system |
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"I have thought about this I have to admit. And it's one of the reasons why I like to book hotels myself so I'm the one in the room waiting for them, not the other way round. "
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By *andsonjohnMan
over a year ago
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
OP your right to worry the dark wed is full of this sort of thing hidden camera sex shows .
theirs big money to be made and where's theirs money to be made there are always those looking to exploit others to make it .
Hotel meets are by far the safest way to play for all parties involved in my opinion . |
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Try suggesting a different room from the one the choose in advance. Profiles would probably give a clue with the type of photos on there.
I was happy for a husband to take photos with me and his wife I just asked for no face pics which he did. Found it a great turn on to be honest and quite clearly were a very trustworthy couple. |
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
That has never crossed my mind and i would never set one up. |
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"The official stat is that 1 in 12 private meets are secretly filmed.
I heard from someone that heard from someone that heard from someone else, that's its actually 1 in 5.
But your totally safe if its a hotel meet.
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They have official stats for this???
Who does the counting? And how do you get a job like that?? |
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
We make it quite clear hubby will take pics/film so there's no need for deceits. |
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"The official stat is that 1 in 12 private meets are secretly filmed.
I heard from someone that heard from someone that heard from someone else, that's its actually 1 in 5.
But your totally safe if its a hotel meet.
They have official stats for this???
Who does the counting? And how do you get a job like that??"
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
Yes that's why I don't meet in peoples houses , I am just paranoid a bit so the closest I can be with someone outside is a Hotel , else Party or Club, but thats just me |
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"I had this happen to me - I met a married women off Fab a couple of years ago, and went to meet her at her home while her husband was out.
We had a wonderful time, but later she told me that there had been a video camera hidden in the room and she'd recorded the whole thing for her husband to watch.
Nothing that you can do about it after the event, and you have no control over what happens to the recording - left me feeling sick and totally used...
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That is such a breach of your trust. I can understand the couple enjoying it but it should have had your consent. Sorry to hear this ![](/icons/s/sad.gif) |
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"I have thought about this I have to admit. And it's one of the reasons why I like to book hotels myself so I'm the one in the room waiting for them, not the other way round. "
I thought this thread seemed familiar. Already answered first time round and the above still applies ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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hubby and I went to a party a couple of years ago.sitting chatting and having a laff,then I noticed the cctv.it was in all rooms.may not of been recording,but no way was I playing.
we have been to a club recently where the ppl were using their mobile phones in areas they shouldn't.i didn't complain,as i wasn't playing,but I would of if things got playfull.it teally isn't on |
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"The official stat is that 1 in 12 private meets are secretly filmed.
I heard from someone that heard from someone that heard from someone else, that's its actually 1 in 5.
But your totally safe if its a hotel meet.
They have official stats for this???
Who does the counting? And how do you get a job like that??
Sidney University of course "
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"I must confess this thought is always on my mind whenever I meet people in their home for fun.hence I prefer hotel meet..i don't mind splitting the hotel cost.this can happen to anyone.not just single guys both females and couples as well "
We openly film our meets nothing hidden about it. We dont meet camera shy people ![](/icons/s/cool.gif) |
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A while ago when i was here on a old profile i had a meet. Turned up. Went upstairs got down to buisness 10mins later i heard a crash behind me. Looked and a bloke(her hubby) fell out of the wardrobe with camera in hand. All they had to do was ask before hand ![](/icons/s/biggrin.gif) |
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"A while ago when i was here on a old profile i had a meet. Turned up. Went upstairs got down to buisness 10mins later i heard a crash behind me. Looked and a bloke(her hubby) fell out of the wardrobe with camera in hand. All they had to do was ask before hand "
Sometimes you are lucky to make it through the door. You are told that yes they would like to meet, they arrange a date,time,everything and then mysteriously,,they dont answer the door...maybe it isnt their door? |
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we always ask before a meet if pics are ok if yes then great but if no then that's great too pics will only be taken on a camera or phone.....the freedom of phones in clubs is a reason we don't go nor private partys...and picking up on what someone else said about a home being clean well when invite a meet into our house its as if the queen was coming lol and fresh clean bedding every time and this is why we mainly play from home cause we know its clean ... ![](/icons/s/mrgreen.gif) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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My fb has a photography studio where we meet others. One lady (part of a couple) was so obviously uncomfortable and we were confused. When discussed she was positive we had cameras recording her. We didn't but she wouldn't relax so we parted company and that was that!
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The very first time we meet a couple he had this thing you here baby s on in the bed room so he could here everything it really put me off his wife moaning in the next room . |
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"The very first time we meet a couple he had this thing you here baby s on in the bed room so he could here everything it really put me off his wife moaning in the next room ."
Oh wives are always moaning,should be used to it.. |
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We went to a guys house and he had at least 20 opened laptops all over his living room ! Shit our selfs and I didn't know our car could drive so fast. .... Escaped ) |
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"I have a fear of this at parties cas there are so many people.....little bit scary!!
We went to a party once where they were snapping away ... I had made it clear before we went that I did not want to be in any photos. A previous verification of theirs had stated that a couple were pleasantly surprised to be given a collection of snaps from the evening at the end of it ... needless to say I did not play and we did not stay there too long. A very presumptuous invasion of privacy "
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