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Mens dating standards

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I have seen many threads on here about dating. Interestingly someone had previously posted that she had met someone who said although he was single and looking to date he wouldn’t date anyone he met off fabs! And therein, followed a conversation about thoughts on that.

However, this week I have this exact thing happen to me, twice in 4 days. (Fully understanding forum rules so not naming and shaming, or airing dirty laundry), and just in general, it was thought women off here are not dating material, maybe more likely to stray and cheat, or are not special enough!

Hmmm. SO guys and girls, does this mean on Fabs people have double standards and that some people will literally have naughty times with anyone even if they wouldn’t date them?

Note to admin: I hope I haven’t broken forum rules and if I have then won’t be offended if this is deleted, but pleeeeease don’t block me, i like the forums. Thank you muchly ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's right I would have naughty fun with everyone, but then again I don't date as I don't want a gf or wife.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Absolutely, and not always for the reasons you might think. I might have a meet with some drop dead gorgeous 30 yr old, but I am not about to go out on the town with one!!

I don't discriminate here - I am 100% girlfriend material, and I'm sure plenty of both sexes on here are.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"SO guys and girls, does this mean on Fabs people have double standards and that some people will literally have naughty times with anyone even if they wouldn’t date them?"

I fully admit to that. I think the criteria is different for 'having a good time' to that for possibly spending the rest of your lives together. Nothing wrong with it at all.

I wouldn't say they are more likely to stray or cheat or anything though. My thoughts are that as a more open environment, you can make sure you are sexually compatiable - something you can really bring up (most of the time) when you meet someone in a different environment.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

as I said the other day, I don't date but if I did, I would not look to do so with anyone on here.

now, that is not because people are not good enough but I am at a stage in my life that I would find it very difficult to find someone who matches with my interests. On the other thread, someone tried to twist my words to suit their motives because outrage is worn like a badge of honour.

in saying all the above, the behaviours of people, the expressions of baggage/drama and the constant frenzied need for attention has and will continue to put me off loads of people that I may be compatible with.

it's funny old world this online malarky, it works for some and not for many.

good luck

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

it's a*

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

I'm probably a shit reference point for this thread given I'm marrying someone who started out as a regular meet and became my FWB.

I don't see a difference personally in meeting someone here or in Tesco (other supermarkets are available).

If it's meant to happen? It will.

I struggle to see how any judgements can be made of someone based on their membership here. It's pretty hypocritical to me. Else why would anyone from 'vanilla land' want to ever date a Fab member?

People are people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personality I'd just be happy to meet someone who actually wanted to date me.

And yes it is double standards. As long as both are comfortable with the idea what difference could it make?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have Said I want to date someone from fab as I think dating someone who understands what we might like together ie going to clubs socials and stuff like that

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By *tillup4funMan over a year ago

Wakefield

"I'm probably a shit reference point for this thread given I'm marrying someone who started out as a regular meet and became my FWB.

I don't see a difference personally in meeting someone here or in Tesco (other supermarkets are available).

If it's meant to happen? It will.

I struggle to see how any judgements can be made of someone based on their membership here. It's pretty hypocritical to me. Else why would anyone from 'vanilla land' want to ever date a Fab member?

People are people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have met people who want to date me and also people I would date. They've not used fab as a reason not to.

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By *bsinthe_boyMan over a year ago

Luton

I think a lot of people don't realise that a non-monogamous relationship is possible or perhaps they don't feel able to have an honest, open relationship.

So they have double standards. They'd sleep with someone from fab but wouldn't date them.

Personally I am up for dating ladies from Fab if it seems appropriate (I am in an open marriage and polyamorous). I probably would' want to fuck someone that I wasn't also happy to at least chat with over a nice meal.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I used to be completely against dating people from Fab as it seemed a bad start to a relationship. However, I then met someone from here. It was made clear that neither of us wanted it to just be sex before we met, and that we were hoping to be compatible in a vanilla relationship sense (no swinging). It worked out, fortunately, however I think it's rare.

I wouldn't date someone that I had initially slept with casually as I wouldn't be able to see them as more than just sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The classic 'Madonna and whore complex' However it cuts both ways as I have met people who I would not dream of dating but they are ok to meet.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"I used to be completely against dating people from Fab as it seemed a bad start to a relationship. However, I then met someone from here. It was made clear that neither of us wanted it to just be sex before we met, and that we were hoping to be compatible in a vanilla relationship sense (no swinging). It worked out, fortunately, however I think it's rare.

I wouldn't date someone that I had initially slept with casually as I wouldn't be able to see them as more than just sex. "

a very good post

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By *bsinthe_boyMan over a year ago

Luton

"The classic 'Madonna and whore complex' However it cuts both ways as I have met people who I would not dream of dating but they are ok to meet."

I'm happy to date a "whore". But then I always preferred naughty girls over the good girl type. I think a lot of guys are happy to play the field but wouldn't be able to share their partner.

Their loss....it can be great fun!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think a lot of people don't realise that a non-monogamous relationship is possible or perhaps they don't feel able to have an honest, open relationship.

So they have double standards. They'd sleep with someone from fab but wouldn't date them.

I don't think it's a double standard to separate casual sex and relationships. I see them as two very different things.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

"I think a lot of people don't realise that a non-monogamous relationship is possible or perhaps they don't feel able to have an honest, open relationship.

So they have double standards. They'd sleep with someone from fab but wouldn't date them.

I don't think it's a double standard to separate casual sex and relationships. I see them as two very different things. "

I don't disagree at all. It doesn't prevent one becoming the other though - in either direction.

I simply find it confusing that people will say they wouldn't date a fellow swinger/fabster/casual meet (whatever the preference of terminology) and yet would expect a non swinger/fabster/casual meet to date them.

It's almost putting people in pigeon holes.

But that's just me. Other _iews are available and the world would be dull if all thought the same.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For me the answer is simple.

If you're not nice enough to date I certainly won't be jumping into bed with you!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For me the answer is simple.

If you're not nice enough to date I certainly won't be jumping into bed with you!"

But surely there is more criteria to either option than just being nice?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think a lot of people don't realise that a non-monogamous relationship is possible or perhaps they don't feel able to have an honest, open relationship.

So they have double standards. They'd sleep with someone from fab but wouldn't date them.

I don't think it's a double standard to separate casual sex and relationships. I see them as two very different things.

I don't disagree at all. It doesn't prevent one becoming the other though - in either direction.

It's almost putting people in pigeon holes.

But that's just me. Other _iews are available and the world would be dull if all thought the same.

I wouldn't discriminate against someone due to them being a swinger (I'm dating one), I just couldn't date someone when it was initially casual sex.

But I'm probably not the right person to answer as I'll only have monogamous vanilla relationships. I couldn't bare seeing someone I love fuck someone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I dunno it could be awkward.

If I was in a relationship I'm not sure I'd want to be swinging together so picking a partner from a swinging site could lead to tension if they wanted to carry on.

But I've got trust issues and am way to broken for dating anyway :p

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For me the answer is simple.

If you're not nice enough to date I certainly won't be jumping into bed with you!

But surely there is more criteria to either option than just being nice?"

That depends on how you define nice and what you are defining as nice;)

Nice eyes, nice personality, a body that feels nice when you stroke and caress it, a body that responds nicely to your toucb, nice kisses, nice cuddles.......

Things can only go one way

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By *elle70Woman over a year ago

Kirkcaldy

I seriously doubt I'd date someone from here, not because of how we met or the sex it's simply that what I look for in a long term partner is different from a meet or fwb. Life goals, expectations in life, beliefs etc. are far more important in a partner than a playmate.

B x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As has been said already it comes down to wheather Ur talking about monogamous dating or not. If it were with a _iew to monogamy, then I would be very unlikely to date someone from here with loads of play verifications......simply because it would prove that swinging was deeply ingrained in them, and it would be an enormous expectation on my part, to expect them to dismiss and ignore a large aspect of their personality long term. Suppression of something that has become part of their nature would most likely lead to one of three things:-

* Them eventually leaving d relationship.

* Them being torn by staying with me out of love, but having to cheat to fulfill their needs.

* I having to compromise on d monogamy, which might cheapen / devalue d specialness I might have placed on d relationship at d outset.

Of course it's possible that there would be exceptions to these scenarios.....but law of averages and logic would dictate that they would be in d minority.

I see d question as one of brutal honesty rather than of double standards.

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By *oobsandballsMan over a year ago

st andrews

I'm not sure I could date someone who wasn't into or at least interested in swinging, but I'd need more than that in common.

They'd need to be a geek too

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

"I seriously doubt I'd date someone from here, not because of how we met or the sex it's simply that what I look for in a long term partner is different from a meet or fwb. Life goals, expectations in life, beliefs etc. are far more important in a partner than a playmate.

B x"

Is it unfeasible that you'd meet someone on here for casual fun who turned out to share the same life goals, expectations and beliefs?

Any more so than in 'vanilla land'?

Just a question?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

B x

Is it unfeasible that you'd meet someone on here for casual fun who turned out to share the same life goals, expectations and beliefs?

Any more so than in 'vanilla land'?

Just a question?

For genuine, single and totally committed swingers who both wish to continue swinging together in a relationship, I'm sure here is an even more likely place to meet a match than vanillaland.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So you're telling me I need to buy a woman a Happy Meal before I get to shag them?

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By *awandOrderCouple over a year ago

SW London

We met on here and both sort of suspected we had loads of things in common. We also have enough differences to keep it interesting. Of course we initially met for casual sex but it has developed into us both deciding we are going to spend the rest of our loves together, is an amazingly simple and straightforward way. Neither of us play as frequently as before and in no way does it devalue our vanilla relationship. Personally there are ebbs and flows with me, unless I am in the moment, I do not think of other men as someone I want to play with, apart from Mr, and we have both considered and discussed that we would give it up if the other wanted. I would say honestly, we are in a transition period as far as playing with and meeting others go, but we are totally in sync with each other on this .... above all, honesty, communication and respect rules in our household.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Us too. I'm a brilliant girlfriend

and we met on here and are now a "proper" couple. We can never cheat, if we want to fuck someone we can and do! This is the best relationship ever! We have complete trust and total honesty.

V xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's the trouble, you can have all these preconceived ideas and then all of a sudden meet someone who blows them all away.

That said, I wouldn't fuck someone I wouldn't be seen in public with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As has been said already it comes down to wheather Ur talking about monogamous dating or not. If it were with a _iew to monogamy, then I would be very unlikely to date someone from here with loads of play verifications......simply because it would prove that swinging was deeply ingrained in them, and it would be an enormous expectation on my part, to expect them to dismiss and ignore a large aspect of their personality long term. Suppression of something that has become part of their nature would most likely lead to one of three things:-

* Them eventually leaving d relationship.

* Them being torn by staying with me out of love, but having to cheat to fulfill their needs.

* I having to compromise on d monogamy, which might cheapen / devalue d specialness I might have placed on d relationship at d outset.

Of course it's possible that there would be exceptions to these scenarios.....but law of averages and logic would dictate that they would be in d minority.

I see d question as one of brutal honesty rather than of double standards."

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If at first...

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By *a petite madameWoman over a year ago

London / Essex

"That's the trouble, you can have all these preconceived ideas and then all of a sudden meet someone who blows them all away.

That said, I wouldn't fuck someone I wouldn't be seen in public with. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It probably works a bit both ways. I've met people I would never ever meet in a million years if I was looking to date/get into a relationship. It's not because I'm lowering any standards or they're somehow unworthy, it's just because I'm looking for something different than I would be if I wanted to date, be that in terms of age, background, looks, personality, lifestyle.

I'm sure there's men I've met who'd think the same about me, ok to fuck but not have a relationship with doesn't have to be an insult (although I know what you're getting at with the opening post and often it is!)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will fuck people off here.

I won't date people off here.

I don't care if it's double standards or not.

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"I'm probably a shit reference point for this thread given I'm marrying someone who started out as a regular meet and became my FWB.

I don't see a difference personally in meeting someone here or in Tesco (other supermarkets are available).

If it's meant to happen? It will.

I struggle to see how any judgements can be made of someone based on their membership here. It's pretty hypocritical to me. Else why would anyone from 'vanilla land' want to ever date a Fab member?

People are people.

I totally agree with this, who knows who you will meet or when.

I do find it pretty insulting about the comments on other threads about not seeing someone because they met them on here, who is the say the love of their life regularly pulled every weekend in the vanilla world and has had in reality loads more meets that aren't documented by a summary?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would date someone I met from here if it was right. Why does it matter where you meet someone as long as they are the right person for you? X

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By *erfGentMan over a year ago

Manchester

I was wondering whether the vast excess of single men on here enables women to 'punch above their weight' I. e. Get guys for a meet that wouldn't look twice at them in the real world where folk can see. Any _iews from folk more experienced than me?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I would date someone I met from here if it was right. Why does it matter where you meet someone as long as they are the right person for you? X"

Fab is how we met and I sometimes question the wisdom of it in my saner moments. But he's right for me and I'm not regretting it one iota. I communicate better and more openly with him than any of my exes (although that's not difficult).

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I was wondering whether the vast excess of single men on here enables women to 'punch above their weight' I. e. Get guys for a meet that wouldn't look twice at them in the real world where folk can see. Any _iews from folk more experienced than me? "

I believe I'm punching above my weight and that I'm incredibly fortunate to have him. He says I'm talking nonsense. I don't think I'd be with him if I felt the other way.

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Depends on what you mean by 'punch above their weight' In vanilla land it is called beer goggles is it not?

If men lower their usual standards on here compared to what they would do in vanilla land, whose fault is that? Not the woman they contacted is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Datings are the discovery of our sexual partners, our personalities, where we seek something more than sex. Also friendship and fellowship and sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't even know what's involved with dating any more. So to answer the question in my way:

Are there ladies in here I'd fuck? Yes.

Of those ladies would I ever go out for a drink with them without the possibility of fucking? Yes.

Is there any lady on here I'd fuck who I wouldn't consider having a non-fuck-related drink with? No. I only have sex with those who a actually like!

So, does that answer the question?

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

I was a single guy on here and yes I think I'm 'punching above my weight' now. (I'm not a fan of that phrase but I'm guessing as to what you're inferring!)

Why should it be exclusive to single women?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm willing to help out any women who may be looking to drop their standards significantly. I'm quite kind like that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So, what happens if you are out for a night and meet someone, hit it off, have a few dates then discover you are both on here?

You can bump into fellow fabsters anywhere without knowing.....

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

"I'm willing to help out any women who may be looking to drop their standards significantly. I'm quite kind like that."

If you weren't in Hampshire, I'd let you drop yours for me

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By *erfGentMan over a year ago

Manchester

I'll rephrase my question. I think most folk on here will choose the best available meet according to their selection criteria (if any). An average looking lady might have 50 men to choose from, while an average looking guy may have 1 lady to choose from if he is lucky. So my guess is that an average looking lady can obtain much better looking guys than an average looking man can who is looking for women. Is that what happens in practice do you think? I've not been on here long but my limited experience is that there are some lovely folk on here.

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By *bi HaiveMan over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset

"I'll rephrase my question. I think most folk on here will choose the best available meet according to their selection criteria (if any). An average looking lady might have 50 men to choose from, while an average looking guy may have 1 lady to choose from if he is lucky. So my guess is that an average looking lady can obtain much better looking guys than an average looking man can who is looking for women. Is that what happens in practice do you think? I've not been on here long but my limited experience is that there are some lovely folk on here. "

If you want to go down the numbers route (as many often argue - some more than others!) then that's one way to look at it.

Another way?

Nobody is obliged to meet anyone, 'lower their standards' (as it's often termed) or agree to meet anyone they don't find interesting and attractive. So whether the ratios are 1:1 or 1:100 if you don't change your criteria or preferences the numbers become less relevant. As I've said before - if you were the only guy on site and not a single woman found you attractive would the ratio make any difference being the other way round?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Isn't it funny how women are "whores", meanwhile the guys who fuck anything that moves are saints, and some how better relationship material than women.

tut tut!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Every single relationship i've had started off as casual sex - make that good casual sex.

Good sex is a huge part of a relationship for me, as well as everything else like personality, looks, and compatibility.

I think some of the guys i've met would never consider me for a relationship because i'm promiscuous and they haven't bothered to get to know me, my morals or standards and presume something else about me. I'm not that bothered, i take everyone i meet to be nothing more than sex but i do understand relationships can change over time and whatever happens happens.

I'm in a relationship now with someone i met a few years ago for a fuck.

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By *erfGentMan over a year ago

Manchester

The short answer to the question asked in this thread is yes, men's dating standards are lower. This is due to the the short supply of women here relative to men. Even unattractive women can afford to be choosy. For proof look at the verifications of average looking women and average looking men. The women often have verifications from very good looking men but the average looking guys (if verified at all) are most likely to have taken what they can get rather than what he would like. There are exceptions of course, but check out the verifications. I'm not complaining, it's just supply and demand at work

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The short answer to the question asked in this thread is yes, men's dating standards are lower. This is due to the the short supply of women here relative to men. Even unattractive women can afford to be choosy. For proof look at the verifications of average looking women and average looking men. The women often have verifications from very good looking men but the average looking guys (if verified at all) are most likely to have taken what they can get rather than what he would like. There are exceptions of course, but check out the verifications. I'm not complaining, it's just supply and demand at work

I'm sure the women you're referring to just adore being described as "what they can get". I won't meet anyone from here who I think wouldn't be interested in the real world. I'm instantly suspicious of messages from really conventionally good looking men, and mostly ignore them. I don't want to "punch above my weight". Firstly because it's not just looks that appeal to me, but secondly because why would I want to make myself feel inadequate and like something someone has resorted to because they can't do any better?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I won't meet anyone from here who I think wouldn't be interested in the real world. I'm instantly suspicious of messages from really conventionally good looking men, and mostly ignore them. I don't want to "punch above my weight"."

Ermm, dude... you're pretty hot.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ermm, dude... you're pretty hot."

Meh, photos hide a million flaws.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Meh, photos hide a million flaws."

I feel the opposite.

It's funny how different people perceives themselves and others on this 'ladder'.

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By *he Happy ManMan over a year ago

Merseyside

"I have seen many threads on here about dating. Interestingly someone had previously posted that she had met someone who said although he was single and looking to date he wouldn’t date anyone he met off fabs! And therein, followed a conversation about thoughts on that.

Hmmm. SO guys and girls, does this mean on Fabs people have double standards and that some people will literally have naughty times with anyone even if they wouldn’t date them?

Note to admin: I hope I haven’t broken forum rules and if I have then won’t be offended if this is deleted, but pleeeeease don’t block me, i like the forums. Thank you muchly ?

They are being very cheeky. They are saying yes I would fuck you but never date you. I could understand if they said if we date let's forget about swinging and just enjoy each other. A woman I speak to on Fab who is single said if she dated a man from Fab and he wanted to start swinging as a couple she would be offended. In her words "I would be thinking aren't I enough for you?".

Maybe that should be a new filter for you? Tell protential men you are looking for a partner not just a one off. Ditch anybody stupid enough to say they would never date some body from fab.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can't speak for everyone but I think people on here ladies in particular are more likely to be honest and indeed faithful to the agreement they have with their partners than most women I've met outside the scene.

Go to any Butlins adult weekend and non scene men and women put us to shame.

Truth is one brush does not suit all people.

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By *tephstockingsTV/TS over a year ago

birmingham

I'd definitely date a woman I meet on or was on fab as that's the life style we are both into so why would u change so long as there is trust and honestly x x x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would date those on my friends list as well as those I've met...

Unless they were married (been there done that, I always lose out)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's extremely unlikely I'd date someone I met on here.

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By *ELLONS AND CREAMWoman over a year ago

stourbridge area

Dating sites ... usually they are hard work and it's hard to find someone compatible .

But at least with fab ... if there's a sexual chemistry ..... thats a good start ....

So many relationship s dont work because ..of lack of sexual compatability .

Don't u think

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Dating sites ... usually they are hard work and it's hard to find someone compatible .

But at least with fab ... if there's a sexual chemistry ..... thats a good start ....

So many relationship s dont work because ..of lack of sexual compatability .

Don't u think

Totally agree. Was discussing this with a friend today. It was part of the reason i ditched my ex. He bored me to tears sexually. Don't ever want that again.

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By *erfGentMan over a year ago

Manchester

"Dating sites ... usually they are hard work and it's hard to find someone compatible .

But at least with fab ... if there's a sexual chemistry ..... thats a good start ....

So many relationship s dont work because ..of sexual incompatibility "

The problem with dating sites is folk are looking for someone to spend the rest of their life with. Here it is a lot simpler. We want someone for a good fuck. The ingredients for that are different, though perhaps they shouldn't be, and fewer. I have a lady friend I see regularly who is younger than my daughter. Our families don't know. In the bedroom it is phenomenal for both of us. I like her youth and body and she my experience and length. But we would never date conventionally. We meet each other's physical needs and it works.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So you're telling me I need to buy a woman a Happy Meal before I get to shag them?

I was thinking dinner for two in a nice restaurant with a bottle of Pinot actually!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So you're telling me I need to buy a woman a Happy Meal before I get to shag them?

I was thinking dinner for two in a nice restaurant with a bottle of Pinot actually!

It can be arranged

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's highly likely that if I do ever meet 'Mr right' that I'll meet him on here!

That's not because I can't be monogamous - as with the right partner Who satisfies me sexually I'd have no problem giving up other partners if he didn't want to swing - it's simply because I love the social side of swinging and my best friends are now swingers - and I have no intention of dropping my friends! Xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one is forcing these average-good looking males to contact 'unattactive' females. Women can be choosy when there's so many desperate guys who'll fuck anything that winks at them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one is forcing these average-good looking males to contact 'unattactive' females. Women can be choosy when there's so many desperate guys who'll fuck anything that winks at them."

I've turned down several winks I'll have you know!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Interesting comments from the OP

I was introduced to this site by mates at my work who are members here; their exact words were:

"Join fab swingers and shag a minger"

I chat and have a laugh with a lot of mates on here daily and have also made new friends, cant deny I have had a few offers too, which I have turned down as im not into "larger ladies" just my taste.

I have since met a stunning female who I love for both body & mind and I would never consider risking that for anyone on here. (I did not meet her on here either.

So why do I continue to chat on here; because I keep in touch with friends and like the laugh on both forum & chat forum

I am sure there may be plenty sunning females on here, both in body & mind, I am still to meet one and even If I did, I would ask them to read my profile update

People use this forum for many different things, and yes I think many guys have standards for a female.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sunning should be "stunning"

(no edit button)

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