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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
I find it really uncomfortable if someone does it to me. I'd prefer that they didn't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"is it wrong to perve then get turned on and then decide you want to masturbate?"
This could prove problematic in Tesco, Asda or any other reputable store!!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't think it's bad to look. Everyone looks. But when you say something to her, or look so much that you clearly just want her to see you looking, it becomes uncomfortable. I'm from a big city in the US and this used to happen to me when I walked around and there is definitely a point when flattery becomes creepy.
-Courtney |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I must admit I can't help it when a sexy lady bends over and i find myself leaning to get a better view"
If you're seen doing that - it could look a
bit...odd? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
Yes it is , leave them for me to look at  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's natural human behaviour to check out the opposite sex (or same sex) if you fancy them.
But in most situations discretion is the key and keep it appropriate to the situation - it totally defeats the point if they feel uncomfortable or demeaned by it (i.e. I'd be a lot more blatant about it at Swingers disco than in a work meeting for example!) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does anyone take it further of just a good eyeful?"
You mean, like, does anyone randomly touch people on the street that they find attractive?
(Yes they do. It's called sexual assault.) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"is it wrong to perve then get turned on and then decide you want to masturbate?
This could prove problematic in Tesco, Asda or any other reputable store!!! "
what about none reputable stores ha |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Look away - I find it a huge turn on and Mr loves seeing other men having a cheeky perve at me too (not that it happens too often these days lol)
It's nice to be looked at in a sexually attractive way, it's a nice compliment and is confidence boosting to a lot of people. Mrs Flirty x  |
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I would say it is fine as long as they are above 17.
anything lower and it is very very wrong and Operation Yew tree will be knocking on your door.
"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If its just a admiring glance I find it quite a buzz. If its more I start to wonder if my skirt is tucked into my pants or something 
It is just normal human behaviour though... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't think it's bad to look. Everyone looks. But when you say something to her, or look so much that you clearly just want her to see you looking, it becomes uncomfortable. I'm from a big city in the US and this used to happen to me when I walked around and there is definitely a point when flattery becomes creepy.
I think if you find someone attractive you should say something you cant hide behind a keybored all your life the good old fashioned face to face flirting does still work .
-Courtney"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love checking out both men and women , mostly when they catch my gaze they just smile , some start up a conversation but none have ever looked uncomfortable with me looking at their pleasant assets lol
When I get looked at I just hold their gaze a tad too long and bite my lip , then walk away owning the fact I just got checked out .. Makes my day to be honest
Anita x
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By (user no longer on site)
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I love it when its reciprocated. Had a lovely encounter with two gorgeous ladies in the local shop earlier, one super sexy about 30, the other a rather wonderful woman in her early 50's. The first one's eyes caught me sneaking a peek and we just locked on each other for a mo... definite sexual attraction there. Then, as the older one was leaving, she also gave me a really lovely flirtatious look with a big smile. Lovely interactions... makes you feel good about yourself 
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree. "
What a load of crap  |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Here, here"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I would rather somebody smiled and said Hello or Alright it shows manners or balls secret perving ain't cool"
You'd look very uncool and very pervy if you said hello or alright to every other person that walked past |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I would rather somebody smiled and said Hello or Alright it shows manners or balls secret perving ain't cool
You'd look very uncool and very pervy if you said hello or alright to every other person that walked past "
I didn't suggest I did |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
If your attracted to the person then it's natural but if your looking at every single person walking past....you have a serious issue . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does anyone take it further of just a good eyeful?
You mean, like, does anyone randomly touch people on the street that they find attractive?
(Yes they do. It's called sexual assault.)"
Not if you ask nicely!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Its good to look !
Everyone luvs being looked at too
No, they don't.
Yes they do!"
Would you also like to tell me what I want for breakfast?
Or are you content just telling me how I feel about strangers perving at me? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It's ok to look as they pass, but not through a telescope aimed at bedroom windows, and not cool to follow for a better look  "
 and sunglasses are a great invention |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree. "
I feel the same.
I'm capable of controlling my gaze. It's a shame more people aren't. Especially in this hot weather. I don't put on revealing clothes for other people to perve at me, I put them on because it's fucking hot. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap "
What's a load of crap? I know lots of women that don't like letches and perves. Some people like being stared at. Some don't. It's disrespectful to say that everyone likes it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Seems to me like the ones having to administer a lot of self control are the biggest perverts
It is something we all do even if subconsciously.
Who doesn't sit and people watch and sometimes admire the view?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems to me like the ones having to administer a lot of self control are the biggest perverts
It is something we all do even if subconsciously.
Who doesn't sit and people watch and sometimes admire the view? "
No, we don't all do it subconsciously.
Don't assume that everyone is the same as yourself. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems to me like the ones having to administer a lot of self control are the biggest perverts
It is something we all do even if subconsciously.
Who doesn't sit and people watch and sometimes admire the view? "
It is actually in built into us. It's just part of human nature to look at other people. If we didn't the human species would cease to be.
Most people will... There will be obviously exceptions but it is a base function |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just don't change direction in order to keep them in your sight, try not to bump into things and for gods sake, make sure your not drooling! "
It's funny when you see someone walk into sonething because they were watching others xx |
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"It's human nature to notice. Intrusive and even creepy to stare openly."
Yes, it can very easily be, you don't know who wants the attention and who does not. It is also very disrespectful if you are with someone. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its good to look !
Everyone luvs being looked at too
No, they don't.
Yes they do!
Would you also like to tell me what I want for breakfast?
Or are you content just telling me how I feel about strangers perving at me?"
Please feel free to eat what you like, I care not!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems to me like the ones having to administer a lot of self control are the biggest perverts
It is something we all do even if subconsciously.
Who doesn't sit and people watch and sometimes admire the view?
It is actually in built into us. It's just part of human nature to look at other people. If we didn't the human species would cease to be.
Most people will... There will be obviously exceptions but it is a base function "
People are beautiful.. like sunsets are beautiful. People who feel ashamed by their attraction to the universe have got wonky views on the meaning of it all imo What's bizarre is that they often feel they should be ashamed due to religious reasons... when all they're doing is blocking themselves from more fully loving God imo (another tree hugging post from us lol ) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems to me like the ones having to administer a lot of self control are the biggest perverts
It is something we all do even if subconsciously.
Who doesn't sit and people watch and sometimes admire the view?
It is actually in built into us. It's just part of human nature to look at other people. If we didn't the human species would cease to be.
Most people will... There will be obviously exceptions but it is a base function
People are beautiful.. like sunsets are beautiful. People who feel ashamed by their attraction to the universe have got wonky views on the meaning of it all imo What's bizarre is that they often feel they should be ashamed due to religious reasons... when all they're doing is blocking themselves from more fully loving God imo (another tree hugging post from us lol )"
Would you say that depends on the religion though? Some religions seem more open to love than other religions. Not necessarily talking about sex, also just generally loving other people and the respect for them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Seems to me like the ones having to administer a lot of self control are the biggest perverts
It is something we all do even if subconsciously.
Who doesn't sit and people watch and sometimes admire the view?
It is actually in built into us. It's just part of human nature to look at other people. If we didn't the human species would cease to be.
Most people will... There will be obviously exceptions but it is a base function
People are beautiful.. like sunsets are beautiful. People who feel ashamed by their attraction to the universe have got wonky views on the meaning of it all imo What's bizarre is that they often feel they should be ashamed due to religious reasons... when all they're doing is blocking themselves from more fully loving God imo (another tree hugging post from us lol )"
I like this one though  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does anyone take it further of just a good eyeful?
You mean, like, does anyone randomly touch people on the street that they find attractive?
(Yes they do. It's called sexual assault.)"
Maybe he meant try to talk to them?
Yano, see someone attractive in a bar, offer to buy them a drink......not everyone intents are malicious
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong.
I find it really uncomfortable if someone does it to me. I'd prefer that they didn't."
I bet you still look at hot guys when you pass them and I bet you don't care how they feel about it!  |
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
I love the tease tbh, catching someone's eye knowing they are looking x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong.
I find it really uncomfortable if someone does it to me. I'd prefer that they didn't.
I bet you still look at hot guys when you pass them and I bet you don't care how they feel about it! "
I don't generally notice if people on the street are hot actually. It's none of my business to look.
Sometimes I do sit in the window of a cafe and people-watch, but I like to make up stories about people rather than consider how hot they are. Like: 'I bet she is a brain surgeon who donates her holidays to doctors without boarders and enjoys free-diving on her weekends'.
I'm not really that into rating peoples attractiveness, so I don't look at people and think 'phwoah, she's hot'. What I think when I look at someone is 'she looks interesting, I wonder what she does'. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong.
I find it really uncomfortable if someone does it to me. I'd prefer that they didn't.
I bet you still look at hot guys when you pass them and I bet you don't care how they feel about it!
I don't generally notice if people on the street are hot actually. It's none of my business to look.
Sometimes I do sit in the window of a cafe and people-watch, but I like to make up stories about people rather than consider how hot they are. Like: 'I bet she is a brain surgeon who donates her holidays to doctors without boarders and enjoys free-diving on her weekends'.
I'm not really that into rating peoples attractiveness, so I don't look at people and think 'phwoah, she's hot'. What I think when I look at someone is 'she looks interesting, I wonder what she does'."
Also, I'm mostly into women. So I'm even less interested in what guys look like than you suspect I am. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap "
Dont judge everyone by your own standards! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
I feel the same.
Its just not nice or respectfull to do it.
I'm capable of controlling my gaze. It's a shame more people aren't. Especially in this hot weather. I don't put on revealing clothes for other people to perve at me, I put them on because it's fucking hot."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards! "
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
If so then call me a god damn perv! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?"
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable."
Then why dress as a man |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable."
And that's your choice to see and feel that way .
I love to court attention , hence the goth style , heavy eye make up , new rock boots , short skirts etc..... I don't just do that for me and my husband , I do it because it makes me feel good .
And I feel even better about myself when I get admiring looks from men and women . A proper warm and satisfying feeling inside .
And that's what makes us all different |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable.
Then why dress as a man"
Excuse me? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable.
Then why dress as a man
Excuse me?"
I believe the inference is that if you dress like a man it could be seen that your actions could have caused someone to feel uncomfortable ?
Not that I am inferring that you have , or indeed that I concur with this suggestion .
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable.
Then why dress as a man
Excuse me?
I believe the inference is that if you dress like a man it could be seen that your actions could have caused someone to feel uncomfortable ?
Not that I am inferring that you have , or indeed that I concur with this suggestion .
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I thought this might be the case.
Although anyone who finds a person wear jeans and a hoodie uncomfortable needs to take a really, really good look at themselves.
But it's a pretty transphobic statement to make, so one would assume that the poster didn't intend it to mean that - hence asking for clarification. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Was out last night, noticed a guy looking at me, we smiled at each other, I turned away, then looked back a few seconds later. He was still looking and still smiling, made me feel good
Absolutely no harm in appreciating someone's appearance |
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable.
Then why dress as a man
Excuse me?
I believe the inference is that if you dress like a man it could be seen that your actions could have caused someone to feel uncomfortable ?
Not that I am inferring that you have , or indeed that I concur with this suggestion .
I thought this might be the case.
Although anyone who finds a person wear jeans and a hoodie uncomfortable needs to take a really, really good look at themselves.
But it's a pretty transphobic statement to make, so one would assume that the poster didn't intend it to mean that - hence asking for clarification."
I can't speak for the poster , it was just what I guess to be the inference .
Personally we wouldn't make a transphobic statement as we love playing with fit ones |
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There was a lady jogging past today and her shorts were very short. So short the lower curve of her bum cheeks were on show peeking out of her shorts.
I'm normally very good, but that was difficult to ignore |
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Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave. |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave. "
That is creepy!
I presume you moved away and told the staff but still that shouldn't happen.
I think I may be too ignorant to notice people notice, or I may be in my own world most of the time! |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave.
That is creepy!
I presume you moved away and told the staff but still that shouldn't happen.
I think I may be too ignorant to notice people notice, or I may be in my own world most of the time! "
Yeh, left as soon as I saw him coming across. He followed us out but lost us on the way down. To him though, he probably thought he'd chat a young girl up and flirt. To me, I felt like I'd been preyed upon and felt threatened.
Think it's a thin line between "just" perving and making people uncomfortable. |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave. "
We went to cinema like that in Birmingham once . It was downstairs in a sex shop . And not a pleasant experience . We didn't stay long and shan't be going back .  |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave.
We went to cinema like that in Birmingham once . It was downstairs in a sex shop . And not a pleasant experience . We didn't stay long and shan't be going back . "
This was an Odeon |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave.
We went to cinema like that in Birmingham once . It was downstairs in a sex shop . And not a pleasant experience . We didn't stay long and shan't be going back .
This was an Odeon "
Oh my days , that's different , not normal behaviour then . And totally unacceptable  |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave.
We went to cinema like that in Birmingham once . It was downstairs in a sex shop . And not a pleasant experience . We didn't stay long and shan't be going back .
This was an Odeon
Oh my days , that's different , not normal behaviour then . And totally unacceptable "
People do that though... I had a similar experience a while ago in Costa. While I was trying to have a coffee and do some work. |
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"Once I was in the cinema. A man a couple of rows ahead sat facing back, staring at me for about 20 minutes instead of watching the film. He then got up, walked round the back and sat on the same row but across the aisle - still staring. About 5 minutes later, he moved across the aisle and goes to sit in the seat next to me. It was creepy, and it's how I imagine people who say "there's nowt wrong with me perving, you consider it a compliment!" actually behave.
That is creepy!
I presume you moved away and told the staff but still that shouldn't happen.
I think I may be too ignorant to notice people notice, or I may be in my own world most of the time!
Yeh, left as soon as I saw him coming across. He followed us out but lost us on the way down. To him though, he probably thought he'd chat a young girl up and flirt. To me, I felt like I'd been preyed upon and felt threatened.
Think it's a thin line between "just" perving and making people uncomfortable. "
For goodness sake, thats hardly a thin line is it? |
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"I'll be honest, I find it very disrespectful. I find myself administering alot of self control. Think this is why I enjoy (agreed) watching & vouerism so much. I have alot of wonen friends and they hate letches and pervs. I kind of agree.
What a load of crap
Dont judge everyone by your own standards!
Funnily enough I think that its you judging everyone by your own standards.
If checking a lady out as she walks past makes me a letch and a perv then, ok, guilty as charged
I'd just like to know when it is that you feel the need to exercise this self control if you haven't already looked?
I just don't look at people that way.
If I walk past someone in the street it wouldn't even occur to me to check them out. They're not there to be perved at, they're just going about their daily business. It also seems pretty disrespectful to do something to someone when I'd hate it being done to me.
I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just saying I'd be mortified if my actions had caused someone else to be uncomfortable.
Then why dress as a man
Excuse me?
I believe the inference is that if you dress like a man it could be seen that your actions could have caused someone to feel uncomfortable ?
Not that I am inferring that you have , or indeed that I concur with this suggestion .
I thought this might be the case.
Although anyone who finds a person wear jeans and a hoodie uncomfortable needs to take a really, really good look at themselves.
But it's a pretty transphobic statement to make, so one would assume that the poster didn't intend it to mean that - hence asking for clarification."
In previous posts you have said that you sometimes go out dressed as a man and I am sure that some people might find that uncomfortable, nothing transphobic about the statement at all.
But now you are saying you don't dress as a man, just wear jeans and a hoody.
Its one or the other |
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In previous posts you have said that you sometimes go out dressed as a man and I am sure that some people might find that uncomfortable, nothing transphobic about the statement at all.
But now you are saying you don't dress as a man, just wear jeans and a hoody.
Its one or the other"
Do men not wear jeans and hoodies? That's what I almost always wear.
People accept me generally as a man because I make my gender markers invisible. Most people don't notice unless they stare and look hard.
There's a huge gulf between dressing as the gender you were born as and some people not feeling quite ok with that (they should quite frankly grow up) and sexually objectifying people and staring at them.
The first one someone has been made to feel uncomfortable because they aren't educated enough to understand a transperson isn't a threat to them. The second one someone is made to feel uncomfortable because someone is sexualising them in an everyday context. one I'm ok with - the first one just needs more education and we can do that. The second scene just needs people to stop thinking it's ok to ogle strangers in the street. |
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"Is it wrong to looks at someones arse, legs or tits as they walk past? I do this all the time but sometimes wonder if its wrong."
absolutely nothing wrong with a discrete look of admiration, and sunglasses help this a lot;
admiring a females stunning figure brightens my day, not enough beautiful females around in my view, the more the better |
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Trans women? as jeans / baggy jumpers are quite common now, short of putting on facial hair how would anyone notice that you were a trans person?
In the world of motorcycles women wearing jeans and hoodies are not considered trans, it is the norm. skirts and lace are not overly practical on a bike. So that may have coloured my perspective.
Somehow I can almost always distinguish a male or female rider from behind wearing full leathers, there is something different about body proportions that shows through. I guess the same applies in the street, but can't say I have ever really noticed.
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In previous posts you have said that you sometimes go out dressed as a man and I am sure that some people might find that uncomfortable, nothing transphobic about the statement at all.
But now you are saying you don't dress as a man, just wear jeans and a hoody.
Its one or the other
Do men not wear jeans and hoodies? That's what I almost always wear.
People accept me generally as a man because I make my gender markers invisible. Most people don't notice unless they stare and look hard.
There's a huge gulf between dressing as the gender you were born as and some people not feeling quite ok with that (they should quite frankly grow up) and sexually objectifying people and staring at them.
The first one someone has been made to feel uncomfortable because they aren't educated enough to understand a transperson isn't a threat to them. The second one someone is made to feel uncomfortable because someone is sexualising them in an everyday context. one I'm ok with - the first one just needs more education and we can do that. The second scene just needs people to stop thinking it's ok to ogle strangers in the street."
Do women not wear jeans and hoodies?
How is that dressing like a man?
Saying people accept you generally as a man is probably in your head.
Don't insult people by saying they aren't educated enough to understand transgender people aren't a threat to them, its nothing to do with threat. Amyway, Its a bit off the subject now we know you don't dress as a man and don't make people feel uncomfortable.
And it is perfectly ok to ogle strangers in the street! |
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Saying people accept you generally as a man is probably in your head.
Its a bit off the subject now we know you don't dress as a man and don't make people feel uncomfortable.
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Actually I'm undergoing medical treatment for transitioning, so I'd prefer you not to make such judgements.
And I'd think it's the 'could you serve this gentleman' from shop assistants and the like that gives it away.
But I'm sorry if I'm not trans enough for you. Genuinely. |
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Saying people accept you generally as a man is probably in your head.
Its a bit off the subject now we know you don't dress as a man and don't make people feel uncomfortable.
Actually I'm undergoing medical treatment for transitioning, so I'd prefer you not to make such judgements.
And I'd think it's the 'could you serve this gentleman' from shop assistants and the like that gives it away.
But I'm sorry if I'm not trans enough for you. Genuinely."
Could I ask a genuine question here ?
When you have undergone your transitioning , and you are out and about , would you still have this aversion to admiring looks ?
Let's say you are walking down the high street and a fit woman looks at you in such a way , clearly liking what she sees - you , a fit guy . Would you not feel that warm and satisfying glow inside ? |
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"There's a big difference between a subtle look and a open letch"
True and I don't think anyone is advocating an open letch, just a look as they walk past as the Op said. I think people who feel the need to exercise restraint against doing this, which is a perfectly natural reaction, are actually the more perverse ones |
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