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Should prostitutes who aren't here to earn money disclose their occupation

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

to people they are arranging to meet? People talk about being honest,particularly where bi men are concerned because of health risks. As escorts and sex workers are also in the higher risk category should they be honest too?

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Should I declare that I work in a brewery every time I enter a pub in case I decide to start a brew up and start selling to their customers?

as long as they don't conduct their business on here what's the issue. They have a right to privacy and to withhold any information they please.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" to people they are arranging to meet? People talk about being honest,particularly where bi men are concerned because of health risks. As escorts and sex workers are also in the higher risk category should they be honest too?

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate."

Ahh someone's being naughty ! Although u did say you'd post this ...

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By *aneandpaulCouple over a year ago

cleveleys

Like a police man never off duty

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

As if men and women would treated with the same expectations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Love these convo's make me laugh

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By *ophieslutTV/TS over a year ago

Central

No, someone's occupation is their own choice and private matter. Sex workers have every and equal right to be here.

Take the precautions to safeguard your health, as you wish to. If one wants no potential exposure to any STI, then it means no sex at all, with anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's no way of policing it so not much point in making a 'rule' about it.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

who would you think worse of.... a sex worker... or an investment banker....

I don't disclose I am a spy for MI6 everytime I meet new people...... shit!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Ahh someone's being naughty ! Although u did say you'd post this ..."

There you go again Dan,seeing trouble where there is none.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"who would you think worse of.... a sex worker... or an investment banker....

I don't disclose I am a spy for MI6 everytime I meet new people...... shit!!!!

both the same they both screw you for money

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

No.

Buyer beware.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

What?? That is outrageous suggesting (prostitutes) should declare their occupation on here..

What is behind the question??

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"As if men and women would treated with the same expectations

One day maybe

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can disclose that im not a prostitute but if anyone wants a shag it'll cost ya

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate."

Simple answer - no.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What?? That is outrageous suggesting (prostitutes) should declare their occupation on here..

What is behind the question??

It occurred to me when I was reading another thread about prostitutes on Fab. People harp on about honesty on here but it only seems to apply to men. I wondered how honest we are expected to be. Should we tell everyone our whole sexual history or are we entitled to keep our private lives private,even if,potentially we could be putting others at risk. This is about risk assessment not the morality of prostitution.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Simple answer - no."

Why not? Less of a risk or more acceptable than being a bi man?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis? "

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What?? That is outrageous suggesting (prostitutes) should declare their occupation on here..

What is behind the question??

Very interesting issue - will be interesting to see the responses.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis? "

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Simple answer - no.

Why not? Less of a risk or more acceptable than being a bi man? "

As long as everyone is tested regularly and practice safe sex then I can't see the issue.

For all I know I've already met a prostitute on here and not know.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"What?? That is outrageous suggesting (prostitutes) should declare their occupation on here..

What is behind the question??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do hookers use condoms for oral ?

I dont know this but alot on here practice uncovered oral .

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

Safer than a bi man who has safer sex and gets checked regularly? Both higher risk categories. I'm asked at the clinic if I'm a sex worker or have had sex with a bi man?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"who would you think worse of.... a sex worker... or an investment banker....

I don't disclose I am a spy for MI6 everytime I meet new people...... shit!!!!

both the same they both screw you for money

I take offense to this comment. The bankers don't screw you. It's the banks that make the money. We are just the workers.

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS over a year ago

Bristol.

People are unlikely to be honest on this site if they belong to a so called 'high risk' group such as, gay/bi/drug user/escort/prostitute/swingers/doggers etc simply because of the judgements made by lots of site members on fabswingers..It would make no difference to me if someone arranged to meet me and they belonged to all the before mentioned groups as I practise safer sex..

Why do you think the hiv positive members on here rarely disclose their status??? It is members of this wonderful site that has created so much dishonesty by alarming, outdated ,uninformed _iews and opinions..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"who would you think worse of.... a sex worker... or an investment banker....

I don't disclose I am a spy for MI6 everytime I meet new people...... shit!!!!

both the same they both screw you for money

I take offense to this comment. The bankers don't screw you. It's the banks that make the money. We are just the workers. "

Banker and wanker rhyme for a reason ! Lol

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

"Do hookers use condoms for oral ?

I dont know this but alot on here practice uncovered oral .

Most of us practice oral sex without a condom because it is a form of safer sex .. (risk extremely rare esp for the suckee)

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate."

I realise you are only asking a question but maybe behaviour is more important than sexual orientation.

Heterosexual bareback with multiple partners is riskier than with a bisexual virgin. Obviously!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I get tested every 4 weeks ,this includes a mouth swob ,I only practice safe sex ..best way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I get tested every 4 weeks ,this includes a mouth swob ,I only practice safe sex ..best way "
are u a Prostitute ? Brave to post on here and admit it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

should people who swing disclose this information to those they are trying to pull who don't swing as swingers are in the higher sexual health risk band

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"should people who swing disclose this information to those they are trying to pull who don't swing as swingers are in the higher sexual health risk band

Good question. Men on here have asked how often I meet,how many partners I've had. Do I tell them or am I allowed my right to privacy? They are just trying to reduce their risks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"should people who swing disclose this information to those they are trying to pull who don't swing as swingers are in the higher sexual health risk band

I think who and when u meet should be your own business .

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By *iSTARessWoman over a year ago

London

"People are unlikely to be honest on this site if they belong to a so called 'high risk' group such as, gay/bi/drug user/escort/prostitute/swingers/doggers etc simply because of the judgements made by lots of site members on fabswingers..It would make no difference to me if someone arranged to meet me and they belonged to all the before mentioned groups as I practise safer sex..

Unless you've got someone's test results in front if you, every stranger is high risk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"should people who swing disclose this information to those they are trying to pull who don't swing as swingers are in the higher sexual health risk band

Good question. Men on here have asked how often I meet,how many partners I've had. Do I tell them or am I allowed my right to privacy? They are just trying to reduce their risks. "

You tell people what you want them to know

you owe nobody anything on here

i mean I'm work in sex clubs and I meet off here if I admitted what a walking cesspit of sti's I was I'd never get a meet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"should people who swing disclose this information to those they are trying to pull who don't swing as swingers are in the higher sexual health risk band

I've always told women I'm dating that I'm a swinger. I also stop swinging when I'm in a monogamous relationship.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis? "

How are bi men in higher risk group? Everybody who partakes in sexual contact with more than 1 other person is at same risk. Only risk free are those who only ever had sex with 1 other and the other has only ever had sex with them

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"who would you think worse of.... a sex worker... or an investment banker....

I don't disclose I am a spy for MI6 everytime I meet new people...... shit!!!!

Plausible deniability?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

I won't tell anyone a thing about me, at all; maybe I am a prostitute; what will happen then? I won't get 'meets'? yeah, right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just my bit incase anyones bothered...

Sex costs.

Meet a girl, arrange a date, go buy new clobber, drinks, meal, club tickets. The next thing you know a pregnancy test. Bammmm. That cost ya.

Meet an escort, hand over ya small amount of dosh in the big scheme of things. Wham bam thank you mam.

As for STI's, you can catch them off a loo seat i belive.

To practice safe sex is not impossile, it just means you should only have one partner.

Have more than one, it always leads to who did they fuck before you!!

To Stay safe, is to stay married and board.

How has bi men more of a risk than normal sex?

Ladies suck cock and get fucked by them.

So cause a mans sucking cock, you think he may have hiv.

Thats nuts.

My advice is dont cross a road or you might ne hit by a bus. Lol

(i dont mean that personaly)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

Statistics!!!!

In the swinging world very few are honest. Therefore those who have not been honest have had sex with 2 people, they have sex with another 2 thats 4 that have had "contact" with somebody who hasnt been honest.....see where this is going??

Therefore statistically if you swing you are at high risk

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And its probably been said but the "high" risk people probably get checked a lot more often than those that "think" they are in low risk group

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

Because having sex with somebody who is paying you to provide a service is not the same as having sex with somebody who likes you as a person and bothered about your pleasure too

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By *vsnikkiTV/TS over a year ago

Limavady

"Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

I sell petrol but like to use it for recreational purposes at the end of the day

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

I sell petrol but like to use it for recreational purposes at the end of the day"

You sniff it???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes they should & they should come to every meet with a medical certificate showing they've been tested for every possible disease known to man.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

Because having sex with somebody who is paying you to provide a service is not the same as having sex with somebody who likes you as a person and bothered about your pleasure too

I thank you for being honest. I'm curious about something. How has being a sex worker affected your vanilla dating life?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

Because having sex with somebody who is paying you to provide a service is not the same as having sex with somebody who likes you as a person and bothered about your pleasure too

I thank you for being honest. I'm curious about something. How has being a sex worker affected your vanilla dating life? "

It hasn't I don't date I split with my ex 8 years ago and I've been single ever since I've never looked for another relationship or a date so I can't possibly comment on wether it would make a difference if I did as I have never tried to find out

if that makes sense

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Why would a sex worker come on this site if it wasn't to make money?

It's like working at McDonald's for 8 hours. Then coming home and making hamburgers and chips for dinner

Because having sex with somebody who is paying you to provide a service is not the same as having sex with somebody who likes you as a person and bothered about your pleasure too

I thank you for being honest. I'm curious about something. How has being a sex worker affected your vanilla dating life?

if that makes sense

It makes sense. I dated a girl once that had a sugar daddy. But she called him her business mentor. The funny thing about it was that I wasn't allowed to meet him.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

No.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

If the prostitute was bi, then she should declare it like a bi man should, but why should she have to declare her profession.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is."

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By *oandjohnCouple over a year ago

South Wales, will travel to Hereford, Worcestershire and Shropshire

No... Hypocritical imho

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The way I look at it, there's a specific box on here to fill in which asks your orientation, so bi guys who put they're straight are deliberately misleading.

However there is no such box for occupation. Those who might be bothered should therefore ask and should have the right to expect an honest reply. Same as any question imo.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is."

I don't agree with some things you have a posted in the past. But you have more common sense than any woman I have encountered.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

Statistics!!!!

Therefore statistically if you swing you are at high risk"

Statistics are pointless. They are only any use if they have tested every person and all the people are honest about who they had sex with.

As it stands,they only have statistics for people that go to get tested. So they are totally skewed and worthless.

Escort A has sex with 10 men. Let's say they are paying for sex because they can't get it elsewhere. So that's 11 people in the equation.

Swinger B has sex with 2 couples. Those couples each have sex with another 2 couples. One of those went to a party and had sex with 6 guys. The other had sex with 3 women. That's over 20 people already in the equation....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is."

Exactly.

In answer to the OP, no, escorts shouldn't have to disclose their job.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

I don't agree with some things you have a posted in the past. But you have more common sense than any woman I have encountered.

Coz i'm really a man.

Jk, i am not really a man.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate."

Escorts & sex workers are not as higher a risk as other swingers as they practice sex & have far more regular tests.

Its a ludicrous suggestion but no more than you would expect here on the forums lol.

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By *uited staffs guyMan over a year ago

staffordshire

I have nothing to declare but my genius

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Escorts & sex workers are not as higher a risk as other swingers as they practice sex & have far more regular tests.

Its a ludicrous suggestion but no more than you would expect here on the forums lol. "

I agree

The club I'm working at at the moment has a strict condom only rule and we have to get tested every four weeks, if we miss a month we don't get any dates till we have been tested its really as simple as that

How many people on here can honestly say they use condoms for all meets and get tested every four weeks?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No they shouldnt.

I get tested regularly throat swabs included, the only person who I suck unprotected is my fwb, flavoured condoms were invented for a reason and believe me guys can still feel it.

There is a hell of a lot of swingers who dont use condoms/dental dams for oral and they are more at risk for contracting an oral sti than a sex worker ever would, why would someone risk putting themselves in danger and losing a livelihood?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Escorts & sex workers are not as higher a risk as other swingers as they practice sex & have far more regular tests.

Its a ludicrous suggestion but no more than you would expect here on the forums lol. "

The question is from another thread. 'Prostitutes and fab' http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/397538

It's not a ludicrous suggestion, I asked the OP to post it as a discussion point. I think it's an interesting question.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Escorts & sex workers are not as higher a risk as other swingers as they practice sex & have far more regular tests.

Its a ludicrous suggestion but no more than you would expect here on the forums lol.

The question is from another thread. 'Prostitutes and fab' http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/swingers/397538

It's not a ludicrous suggestion, I asked the OP to post it as a discussion point. I think it's an interesting question. "

Escorting is legal & no escorts shouldn't use Fab for work purposes.

Fee charged swingers house parties are illegal & yes people can be fleeced on Fab...pot kettle black springs to mind lol.

The sex industry & that includes swinging sites/parties/holidays make money from implied sex, you pay an escort for her time yet pay an house party host to line their pockets...the difference is ?

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By *abswimmersMan over a year ago

Lancashire

I have been reading this thread and decided to stick my oppinion in.

Most of us know we are a high risk group through the nature of our hobby, and we accept the risk we run, and if you don’t then maybe you have the wrong hobby

BI/Gay men are a higher risk due to practising Anal sex and the fact that there more likely to bareback whilst not in a monogamous relationship, and small tares in the sphincter can mean that the person who’s penetrating can come into contact with blood causing the transmission of an STI

Sex is just another industry, that’s why females and males that sell there body’s for sex too men or women are known as sex workers, these people have chosen to turn that industry into their living and become Prostitutes, Escorts or even a gigolo whatever terminology suites the best, they charge people for enjoying services that they will provide all be it what ever the particular client is looking for, and due to this they are classed as being a high risk even though most are tested very regularly and have long term partners or husbands, and only provide full sex with a condom to a client.

I have spent many Saturday nights in various Sex clubs in the Midlands up until 18 months ago, the females that worked there did it for there own reasons, a few were swingers, some girls were escorts outside of the club or they were just doing it for a bit of fun and the cash helped, other girls were adult models, they were all there for there individual reasons, but all had to supply a valid STD certificate before they were aloud to work,

If you were meeting someone who was a doctor a nurse or another medical professional would you expect them to disclose it before meeting? As we all know that people from the medical profession come into contact with other humans bodily fluids everyday, blood urine faeces all can carry bacteria that can cause an STI, just because there a medical professional doesn’t mean that they may not pick up something at work and be totally unaware of this no matter how many precautions they take to minimise the risks of getting an infection.

Also would you expect a guy to disclose he visited sex workers before you arranged a meet with him?

In short there is no such thing as safe sex the only thing we can do is take precautions to minimize our risk of exposure, unless you wish to carry out a full sexual health check on every person your about too meet,

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is."

So,why should bisexual men have to disclose their sexual orientation? That was my original wondering. If it's because we should all be honest,how much honesty should we divulge? A man may not want to have sex with a woman who has a room in a club/spa/brothel where men line up to have sex with her (just a scenario),why should they not be able to ask or be told the truth? People saying all prostitutes are tested,have you seen them all get tested and know this for sure? Has no one ever caught an sti from a prostitute? I don't know the answers to those questions,I'm just asking them.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Bankers & Catholic Vicars will be on the hit list next lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thank you for all your input,it's been interesting to read.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Bankers & Catholic Vicars will be on the hit list next lol.

Why does everyone pick on bankers? (I'm not one,or a Priest)

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?"

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that "

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?"

My ex husband did

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment."

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it's a little naive to assume that all prostitutes who people may choose to meet are all going to be well tested. Of course lots are, and people who work in clubs or porn are going to be tested to within an inch of their lives and probably the safest people to have sex with.

That is not how all prostitution works though.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment."

I've never asked anyone if they are a prostitute. I only ask men if they're bi by any chance because I hope to be invited to a 3 some with them,if they do that. I was seeing a male escort for a while who I met on a Facebook app. I have nothing against prostitution,I just had a question pop into my head and wondered what others thought. People do jump to conclusions on here.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

"People saying all prostitutes are tested,have you seen them all get tested and know this for sure? Has no one ever caught an sti from a prostitute? I don't know the answers to those questions,I'm just asking them".

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

My ex husband did "

My brother in law caught one from a prostitute. Anyone can give you an sti. Even someone who is tested regularly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

You're going to have to spell it out for me in simple terms because that still doesn't say that she's asking people personal questions about their employment?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested. "

Does every swinger get tested & how would we know...these Q & A are fun.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested. "

And it was a rhetorical question.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested.

Does every swinger get tested & how would we know...these Q & A are fun."

Back to how honest should we all be for someone to make a risk assessment on us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested.

And it was a rhetorical question. "

That's what I thought, but apparently I haven't been reading the thread or paying attention, so I wouldn't take my word for it

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested.

And it was a rhetorical question. "

So was mine.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

No idea,I don't ask personal questions like that

Yet you ask personal questions on peoples employment.

Where did she? The OP was about whether other people thought they should

Please pay attention & read the thread lol.

The OP put above

That's not a question about employment. I was asking how someone knows that every prostitute gets tested.

And it was a rhetorical question.

So was mine."

The one I didn't answer?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path.

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By *abswimmersMan over a year ago

Lancashire

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

My ex husband did

My brother in law caught one from a prostitute. Anyone can give you an sti. Even someone who is tested regularly."

Exactly that’s why there is no such thing as safe sex and all anyone can do is minimize risk associated with multiple and random sexual partners.

As for Bi guys making a full declaration before meeting I don’t really see why they should provided they respect everyone’s sexual boundaries, and don't put anyone at an necessary risk, I feel couples expecting a BI guy to inform them of it before hand is just the male not being comfortable in his own skin more than anything else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Only if they're bi

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

As anyone caught an STI from a swinger ?

My ex husband did

My brother in law caught one from a prostitute. Anyone can give you an sti. Even someone who is tested regularly.

Exactly that’s why there is no such thing as safe sex and all anyone can do is minimize risk associated with multiple and random sexual partners.

Bi guys should be treated with the same respect as anyone else & for them to indulge personal info is totally wrong, if people think their swinging activities will or could cause them harm stop now...simples

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path."

Up to date being what? It's still about honesty isn't it. They could have a written certificate in the morning from a clinic and have an orgy in the afternoon with no one using protection. I know I'm sounding paranoid now lol I'm not,I'm just thinking a lot.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path.

As most people don't get tested as often as they should we would have to educate people on the dangers of unprotected sex lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No.

Because then the site owners will think sex workers are touting for business by mentioning their job.

If anyone is bothered about getting diseases then they shouldn't be fucking people. Everyone is a risk.

If you fuck 1000 disease free people then you're less of a risk than someone who fucked 1 diseased one, that's how it is.

You can ask anything you want of people, they may give you an honest answer or lie.

I'm not against bi-guys, my latest veri is from one. But, and this is nothing to do with STIs, i guess some people might feel uncomfortable about being in any sexual situation where a person they don't want to be sexual with might be thinking sexual thoughts about them.

I personally think if you ask someone something then they should answer it honestly, but they also don't have to declare anything to complete strangers if they don't want to. I think people really do need to be extremely open minded when it comes to swinging or being promiscuous in any form.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path.

That's not paranoid, it's accurate. As soon as someone fucks another person after being tested then that test might be moot.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

Yes you will always get the same old hypothetical questions on Fab

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path."

That would be interesting but pointless as said above. Test in the morning, gangbang in the afternoon.

I find it odd that clubs require escorts to have up to date tests to work there yet don't ask for any tests from swingers. Many swingers think condoms mean they don't need to get tested. Or only gay and bi men get std's.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path.

That would be interesting but pointless as said above. Test in the morning, gangbang in the afternoon.

In the sex industry most use condoms as they value their well being too much, in films yes people will do bareback for some shoots with others who are certed within a 28 day period.

The written cert don't make you bomb proof but if you are tested regular they can contain an outbreak to a small number if it happens.

We have been making films/swinging for 18 year & never caught anything...yes it could happen but test are important.

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info..

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info.."

They shouldn't its just some people like asking strange questions as its sport for them & others similar of mind

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info..

They shouldn't its just some people like asking strange questions as its sport for them & others similar of mind

If you can see past your indignation you may see it was nothing of the kind. You just chose to see it that way.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis? "

So are swingers in general.

Heck I'd rate singers above prostitutes in terms of risk

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

So are swingers in general.

Heck I'd rate singers above prostitutes in terms of risk"

Leave Barbara Streisand out of this. Or did you mean Cheryl Cole?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path.

It's not paranoid its true

A certificate isnt worth the paper its written on as soon as you have sex after being tested

Any result is only valid for the time of testing

I could walk out from being tested have a shag and catching something within an hour but I still carry a certificate showing I'm clean for anybody who wishes to see it

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info..

They shouldn't its just some people like asking strange questions as its sport for them & others similar of mind

If you can see past your indignation you may see it was nothing of the kind. You just chose to see it that way. "

As i said above it amuses those in similar minds lol, if it pleases you to ask or imply questions with intent of causing reactions you go for it...the forums would be a boring place without these farcical threads lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Some clubs in States want up to date tests in writting to enter them should the UK follow this path.

It's not paranoid its true

A certificate isnt worth the paper its written on as soon as you have sex after being tested

Any result is only valid for the time of testing

I could walk out from being tested have a shag and catching something within an hour but I still carry a certificate showing I'm clean for anybody who wishes to see it "

Exactly. We have to trust people to be honest. There may be people who don't want to have sex with someone who does it for a living or someone who has had a lot of partners or men who have sex with men. Give them an honest answer and they can make an informed decision.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info..

They shouldn't its just some people like asking strange questions as its sport for them & others similar of mind

If you can see past your indignation you may see it was nothing of the kind. You just chose to see it that way.

It may be farcical to you,some people may have found it informative or interesting. You seem to have focused on one aspect of it,prostitutes and stis.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info..

They shouldn't its just some people like asking strange questions as its sport for them & others similar of mind

If you can see past your indignation you may see it was nothing of the kind. You just chose to see it that way.

It may be farcical to you,some people may have found it informative or interesting. You seem to have focused on one aspect of it,prostitutes and stis. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some people need to get a life .

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By *orthyorkypairCouple over a year ago

North Yorkshire

Only if those that work for inland revenue have to declare too!!! they take more money off folks than sex workers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"who would you think worse of.... a sex worker... or an investment banker....

I don't disclose I am a spy for MI6 everytime I meet new people...... shit!!!!

both the same they both screw you for money

Don't we all...?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Some people need to get a life . "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Personally, I'm more worried about the young lady who hasn't yet reached 25 but she has amassed 4/5 times that amount in verifications on here than i am about someone who works in the sex industry and prob takes even more precautions because of what they do!

Not every sex worker is a sleazy crack head lol

I don't care about your profession unless it just happens to be in the office I work in

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By *orthyorkypairCouple over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"Personally, I'm more worried about the young lady who hasn't yet reached 25 but she has amassed 4/5 times that amount in verifications on here than i am about someone who works in the sex industry and prob takes even more precautions because of what they do!

Not every sex worker is a sleazy crack head lol

I don't care about your profession unless it just happens to be in the office I work in

agree

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not every sex worker is a sleazy crack head lol

I don't care about your profession unless it just happens to be in the office I work in

The young lady in London? You do realise that with swinging... 6 degrees of separation... you will have fucked someone she fucked.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Not every sex worker is a sleazy crack head lol

I don't care about your profession unless it just happens to be in the office I work in

So what about bi men? Not every bi man has unprotected sex, has a lot of partners or has penetrative sex. Should they have to disclose their sexuality? Both are in the higher risk category.

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By *layerzCouple over a year ago

Swansea

Provided there is no expectation for cash to change hands why should she? Everyone who meets, plas or sleeps with anyone off here is taking a risk. If someone declares never done bareback with others you only have their word for it. So to answer the question No!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Provided there is no expectation for cash to change hands why should she? Everyone who meets, plas or sleeps with anyone off here is taking a risk. If someone declares never done bareback with others you only have their word for it. So to answer the question No!"

Would you say the same about bi men? If they have never had unprotected sex or only have oral?

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By *acavityMan over a year ago

Redditch

why should bisexual men have to disclose their sexual orientation? That was my original wondering. "

I thought the point of disclosing your orientation was so that other people know what you are looking for.

As a single male, the chances of meets are already slim, so why message straight guys or lesbians?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

This

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

why should bisexual men have to disclose their sexual orientation? That was my original wondering.

I thought the point of disclosing your orientation was so that other people know what you are looking for.

As a single male, the chances of meets are already slim, so why message straight guys or lesbians?

That is true,but some people state they won't meet bi men in a straight situation because of health risks. There are a lot of men on here who don't disclose that they have sucked a few cocks. But women who suck a lot of cock aren't seen as a health risk as much. It's all about assumptions that when you put bi you have had a cock in your butt. It's some musings I had yesterday as to how much people asses risks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

This

According to stats of female sex workers and other females who visit sti clinics they are at higher risk of catching an sti. That is where they have been infected and treated. We obviously don't know how many people don't get tested and treated. Sex workers are more likely to get tested therefore more likely to have an sti detected. What I found informative was the age ranges. The average sex workers age was 25-29 who had been tested. In the over 40 category amongst all women the numbers were low. Anyway, that was off topic but I found it interesting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm either incredibly prejudiced, or the only person giving an honest answer on this thread. If it's the former, well prostitutes had better avoid my profile in case I offended them by asking what their job is. Not all sex workers are shiny shiny super clean and tested every week.

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs?

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting."

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

Who do you think would get more flak for not being honest? A prostitute or a bi man? I think I have a good idea.

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

Who do you think would get more flak for not being honest? A prostitute or a bi man? I think I have a good idea."

Give 'em both hell

I just returned from Mass. I was the only sinner there; the rest don't even need to go to Church; they are so pious anyway; bit like over here

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

Who do you think would get more flak for not being honest? A prostitute or a bi man? I think I have a good idea.

Give 'em both hell

I just returned from Mass. I was the only sinner there; the rest don't even need to go to Church; they are so pious anyway; bit like over here

I don't care what either of them do. I'm going to hell with them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Don't see why, however, I think everyone should reveal if they don't play safe, isn't that where the risk lies?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

No.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Don't see why, however, I think everyone should reveal if they don't play safe, isn't that where the risk lies? "

Is it? What is 'safe'?

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

Who do you think would get more flak for not being honest? A prostitute or a bi man? I think I have a good idea.

Give 'em both hell

I just returned from Mass. I was the only sinner there; the rest don't even need to go to Church; they are so pious anyway; bit like over here

I don't care what either of them do. I'm going to hell with them

Sounds like hell is going to be a fun place

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

This

Does it say anywhere what percentage of the sexually active age of population gets tested?

I suppose it would only give overall total numbers of tests. Most are anonymous tests and they won't keep stats on how many times the same person gets tested, or how many are discrete/ newly tested people.

Thinking aloud....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think Affectionate bitch made good point that by definition if you are on this site you should be very open mined about what people get up to on here.

People lie. They lie about their marital status, they lie about the sexuality, they lie about STi's, So it would be logical to assume they lie about whether they are an escort or not.

All you can do is make your own personal decisions and by and large stick with them and protect yourself as you see fit by practicing what you see as safe sex. Assume all others out there are not. If you can't see it like that then I recommend you desist from swinging because because you are never ever going to stop the liars lying.

It's like King Canute trying to stop the waves. It just isn't going to happen.

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

I think everyone should declare their occupations (including part-time) then we could avoid:

Politicians ------------ Liars

Traffic Wardens -------- Parasites

Salesmen --------------- Need I say more

Sex workers ----------- Disease ridden

Tax Collectors ---------

Media Luvvies ----------

If there is anyone I haven't insulted then please feel free to add to the list

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If being a sex worker is nothing to be ashamed of (and it isn't) why would asking someone their job be such a no-no? I always ask people what they do.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

This

Does it say anywhere what percentage of the sexually active age of population gets tested?

Thinking aloud...."

There was quite a lot of information regarding the sex workers. How many times they went, where they worked and got tested. Obviously the figures are only about who actually gets tested. It was data collated from all over the UK in 2011. I just had a little look last night out of curiosity. They can only go by the information they have. The other women tested had lower rates of infection. I don't know if there was data on how often they return for tests. Although it was anonymous they had figures on the sex workers who were going regularly. I didn't look at figures for men. It was getting late. Incidentally the number of other women contracting HIV was higher in %

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By *osieWoman over a year ago

Wembley

"I think everyone should declare their occupations (including part-time) then we could avoid:

Politicians ------------ Liars

Traffic Wardens -------- Parasites

Salesmen --------------- Need I say more

Sex workers ----------- Disease ridden

Tax Collectors ---------

Media Luvvies ----------

If there is anyone I haven't insulted then please feel free to add to the list

Is swinging a job too? Sometimes it feels like a job-and-a-half here

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I think everyone should declare their occupations (including part-time) then we could avoid:

Politicians ------------ Liars

Traffic Wardens -------- Parasites

Salesmen --------------- Need I say more

Sex workers ----------- Disease ridden

Tax Collectors ---------

Media Luvvies ----------

If there is anyone I haven't insulted then please feel free to add to the list

Is swinging a job too? Sometimes it feels like a job-and-a-half here

Worse paid job in the world

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By *orthyorkypairCouple over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

Who do you think would get more flak for not being honest? A prostitute or a bi man? I think I have a good idea.

Give 'em both hell

I just returned from Mass. I was the only sinner there; the rest don't even need to go to Church; they are so pious anyway; bit like over here

thats not why we dont go to church we not allowed in lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Let me rephrase the question.

What is the difference between a man not disclosing he is bi, and a woman not disclosing she is a prostitute,wherein they are both a high risk category for stis?

I would want to know in both cases. It wouldn't necessarily stop me meeting them but I like to have the full facts about who I'm meeting.

Yeah, like people who want sex are going to be 100% honest with strangers they simply find, fuck and forget!

Who do you think would get more flak for not being honest? A prostitute or a bi man? I think I have a good idea.

Give 'em both hell

I just returned from Mass. I was the only sinner there; the rest don't even need to go to Church; they are so pious anyway; bit like over here

thats not why we dont go to church we not allowed in lol

I'm worried about spontaneously combusting as I walk through the door

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Forums are great until petty jealousies turn them into a witch hunt.

Live and let live !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate."

What difference does it make? A prostitute is probably a safer bet than a someone who drops their knickers for all an sundry because it's her livelyhood she is more likely to take care of herself and her health surely?? Do you check the sexual history of your partners? Do you disclose yours to them??

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By *lorious hole bs16Man over a year ago

Bristol

What would I gain by telling a prospective meet,that, I am a gay/bi male escort, who is hiv positive,married,just come out of nick and a recreational drug user??

Honesty??I don't think so.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just assume everyone is disease ridden and therefore only ever play safe. You could meet the sweetest girl, only had sex with one guy, but unfortunately that guy had herpes. You think she's safe and that's all it takes.

If anything sex workers should probably tell people, but only to prove they're clean.

"Hi, I'm a sex worker, I only practice safe sex, I get tested regularly and you can only have sex with me if you're protected as well"

That certainly wouldn't put me off and is far more than what a number of men and women on this site could claim.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

no reason at all for anybody to say anything and if they did how do we know if its the truth anyway - if they lie and get found out then suffer the consequences of someones wrath - by playing this game we all take some risk and its up to ourselves to keep as safe as possible -

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Forums are great until petty jealousies turn them into a witch hunt.

Live and let live !"

would you like to explain what you mean?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"no reason at all for anybody to say anything and if they did how do we know if its the truth anyway - if they lie and get found out then suffer the consequences of someones wrath - by playing this game we all take some risk and its up to ourselves to keep as safe as possible - "

So are you saying it's ok for men not to disclose that they are bi?

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By *orthyorkypairCouple over a year ago

North Yorkshire

"No

If anything sex workers should probably tell people, but only to prove they're clean.

"Hi, I'm a sex worker, I only practice safe sex, I get tested regularly and you can only have sex with me if you're protected as well"

That certainly wouldn't put me off and is far more than what a number of men and women on this site could claim.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm either incredibly prejudiced, or the only person giving an honest answer on this thread. If it's the former, well prostitutes had better avoid my profile in case I offended them by asking what their job is. Not all sex workers are shiny shiny super clean and tested every week.

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs? "

No no all sex workers are clean and test regular but nor are all swingers

you could have a very well to do job and not get tested I really don't see how a sex worker is of any higher risk than say a nurse who swings both have the potential to have 10 shags a week bareback and not get tested and both have the potential to practice safe sex and get regular check ups

and I really don't see the connection with drugs and sex

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So are you saying it's ok for men not to disclose that they are bi? "

we choose not to knowingly play with bi men - not for any health reason just not our thing - its not up to anybody to say what is ok or not - we may well have done and theyve not said they are which is the point im making - you will never know for sure

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs?

No no all sex workers are clean and test regular but nor are all swingers

and I really don't see the connection with drugs and sex "

Individual cases will always be different. My question was regarding asking questions on here of people in higher risk categories. There are people all over who don't have protected sex, never get tested and don't tell anyone.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs?

No no all sex workers are clean and test regular but nor are all swingers

and I really don't see the connection with drugs and sex "

People who inject drugs are higher risk too. Oh and sharing a straw or rolled up note for snorting is a high risk of transmitting hepatitis.

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By *SweetVioletxWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

At the end of the day it's up to you to manage your sexual health.

It's in the same ilk the as those who declare "safe sex" on their profile but never practice it.

Every decision and action you take contains a risk. It's up to you to manage or avoid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs?

No no all sex workers are clean and test regular but nor are all swingers

and I really don't see the connection with drugs and sex

everybody on here are of a higher risk category

swinging is high risk

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs?

No no all sex workers are clean and test regular but nor are all swingers

and I really don't see the connection with drugs and sex

everybody on here are of a higher risk category

swinging is high risk

Anyone having multiple partners is higher risk than someone in a monogamous relationship. I'm talking about risk assessment and honesty.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What about IV drug users, would people like to know if someone they're meeting injects drugs?

No no all sex workers are clean and test regular but nor are all swingers

and I really don't see the connection with drugs and sex "

I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I just like to know about people I meet.

The drug use question was just another example of things people might want to know about. I was thinking of the questions I'm asked when I go to give blood, which are around sex for money, IV drug use and men who've had oral or anal sex with another man. I can see exactly what the OP was getting at; on some threads everyone is preaching honesty at all costs about everything, so why not this?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"At the end of the day it's up to you to manage your sexual health.

It's in the same ilk the as those who declare "safe sex" on their profile but never practice it.

Every decision and action you take contains a risk. It's up to you to manage or avoid."

And the more information you have the better.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"At the end of the day it's up to you to manage your sexual health.

It's in the same ilk the as those who declare "safe sex" on their profile but never practice it.

Every decision and action you take contains a risk. It's up to you to manage or avoid.

And the more information you have the better."

obviously - if you trust and believe anything anybody says

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS over a year ago

Bristol.

Once again can I say it has fuck all to do with multiple partners..It is about what you do...whether it's one or a thousand

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will return as and when I can to read comments. I'm playing Devil's advocate.

Ahh someone's being naughty ! Although u did say you'd post this ...

There you go again Dan,seeing trouble where there is none."

We know miss L is so good at Devils advocate.....good thread this one!

Maybe the people who describe themselves as "professional" are in fact sex workers.....this is basically a sex site after all. Maybe it is a code between fellow "professionals"?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Once again can I say it has fuck all to do with multiple partners..It is about what you do...whether it's one or a thousand

The more people you have sex with the more times you put yourself at risk and the more chances that one of them has a disease. Safer sex isn't 100%, there are stis that can be transmitted even when a condom is worn. Warts for instance are quite common. Chlamydia in the throat, or can be transmitted via the fingers into the eyes. Semen in the eyes can transmit infections. The more people you come in contact with the more chances of transmission no matter how safe you feel you are. Do you think that is reasonable to think?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Just to add, as people were saying that swingers were high risk. Some will be higher than others depending on their sexual practices. How often they meet new partners, who they have sex with, in what environment and if it's protected or not. Unlike sex workers, who have regular sex with different people, because it's their livelihood, swingers don't always participate. If what I read on here is correct of course.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Arguably both groups of people are more likely to practise safer sex,

so it makes little difference also I think it's a private matter & none of my (our)business

Agree with this totally. Why are they higher risk because of their work? I'd imagine they were safer and had more checks if anything

This

Does it say anywhere what percentage of the sexually active age of population gets tested?

Thinking aloud....

Thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think it should be disclosed between potential partners not for everyone to see.

I am on a well known Fetish website and watching Americans post is seems they like their lists and putting people in boxes.

So if they read person A's profile and he discloses he might have mental health issues, person B has a ready made list of why they shouldn't play with them as they might get abusive. They don't see the person behind the mental illness tag.

I think we run the same risk if we start expecting people to disclose personal information up front. Putting people in boxes, making judgments. We forget that there is a person behind the tag.

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By *imjohnCouple over a year ago

Clacton on sea, Essex

"Anyway,the conclusion I have come to is that the forum tonight doesn't think women should disclose if they are prostitutes.

Is that the same for male prostitutes I wonder

Another day another thread...

Be my guest!

I am still baffled as to why either male or female people working in the sex industry should disclose such info..

They shouldn't its just some people like asking strange questions as its sport for them & others similar of mind

If you can see past your indignation you may see it was nothing of the kind. You just chose to see it that way.

It may be farcical to you,some people may have found it informative or interesting. You seem to have focused on one aspect of it,prostitutes and stis. "

No i have only focused on the unnecessary questions of bi, escorts & sti's which you seem rattled about when asked yourself why you are so interested in the subjects. So have your informative questions got you the answers you crave ?

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