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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I remember swinging being fun.

arrived on the scene about 5 years ago.

People were fun and there was a mutual respect for each other.

no hidden adgenda.

Now it seems you need to be a cold,heartless and emotionless individual.

Any idea why this is the case?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think people joined sites like this just for sex and not the lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's still plenty of fun for us.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's still plenty of fun for us."

I agree. There are still those of us who live the lifestyle and are just ordinary respectful people. There are some who forget that we are here because we enjoy the company of others and have fun doing so xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To many pushy single blokes after a quick shag, ho and don't forget global warming and immigration.

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"I remember swinging being fun.

arrived on the scene about 5 years ago.

People were fun and there was a mutual respect for each other.

no hidden adgenda.

Now it seems you need to be a cold,heartless and emotionless individual.

Any idea why this is the case?"

Is it the case?

We've met plenty of people who have mutual respect for eachother - in fact 95% of folk at a rough guess.

I'm sure there are as many twats using the Internet to swing as there were/are using other methods.

They're generally easy to spot and avoid though.

A

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

are you replying to what i was saying or just randomly putting a point across which doesnt actually have any relevance?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember swinging being fun.

arrived on the scene about 5 years ago.

People were fun and there was a mutual respect for each other.

no hidden adgenda.

Now it seems you need to be a cold,heartless and emotionless individual.

Any idea why this is the case?"

I had my first swinging experience through a contact mag aged 19... Ha ha it's changed a hell of a lot since then, but only in the way meets are arranged.

As always - people are in it for different reasons.

S x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

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By *inaTitzTV/TS  over a year ago

Titz Towers, North Notts

I think you're doing it wrong if you aren't having fun

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it"

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

A

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

A"

i wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

if we felt it was like that we so wouldnt be here

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

to be fair i have heard some tales where single guys are utter dicks in there messages

so i get the respect thing to a certsin degree but hate being tarred with that brush

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think people joined sites like this just for sex and not the lifestyle "

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
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Cheeseville, Somerset


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

Ai wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !"

I disagree. I had no issues on my solo profile. We've met many a single guy and have plenty as friends.

When we go to clubs we often go on mixed nights and have seen and met plenty of single guys who do well and are popular.

Look at the forums. There are dozens of single guys enjoying life on site, meeting regularly and I'm pretty sure this is replicated across the population that never sets foot in them and simply uses the site to arrange meets.

The 'woe is me' single guys who complain about a lack of meets, non responses to messages and negative treatment on site have largely brought that upon themselves. Nobody affects anyone else. Single guys are as capable as enjoying Fab and swinging as anyone else.

A

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

i do wish you wouldnt get involved

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

Ai wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !

I disagree. I had no issues on my solo profile. We've met many a single guy and have plenty as friends.

When we go to clubs we often go on mixed nights and have seen and met plenty of single guys who do well and are popular.

Look at the forums. There are dozens of single guys enjoying life on site, meeting regularly and I'm pretty sure this is replicated across the population that never sets foot in them and simply uses the site to arrange meets.

The 'woe is me' single guys who complain about a lack of meets, non responses to messages and negative treatment on site have largely brought that upon themselves. Nobody affects anyone else. Single guys are as capable as enjoying Fab and swinging as anyone else.

A"

lol

I'm not mentioning lack of meets I've had a lot more than most !

Just the negative tone in which single men get mentioned . If u bothered reading I did say through tha actions of some we deserve it

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

Ai wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !

I disagree. I had no issues on my solo profile. We've met many a single guy and have plenty as friends.

When we go to clubs we often go on mixed nights and have seen and met plenty of single guys who do well and are popular.

Look at the forums. There are dozens of single guys enjoying life on site, meeting regularly and I'm pretty sure this is replicated across the population that never sets foot in them and simply uses the site to arrange meets.

The 'woe is me' single guys who complain about a lack of meets, non responses to messages and negative treatment on site have largely brought that upon themselves. Nobody affects anyone else. Single guys are as capable as enjoying Fab and swinging as anyone else.

Alol

I'm not mentioning lack of meets I've had a lot more than most !

Just the negative tone in which single men get mentioned . If u bothered reading I did say through tha actions of some we deserve it "

here here

exactly the same as me

doesn't stop me from observing though

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

Ai wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !

I disagree. I had no issues on my solo profile. We've met many a single guy and have plenty as friends.

When we go to clubs we often go on mixed nights and have seen and met plenty of single guys who do well and are popular.

Look at the forums. There are dozens of single guys enjoying life on site, meeting regularly and I'm pretty sure this is replicated across the population that never sets foot in them and simply uses the site to arrange meets.

The 'woe is me' single guys who complain about a lack of meets, non responses to messages and negative treatment on site have largely brought that upon themselves. Nobody affects anyone else. Single guys are as capable as enjoying Fab and swinging as anyone else.

Alol

I'm not mentioning lack of meets I've had a lot more than most !

Just the negative tone in which single men get mentioned . If u bothered reading I did say through tha actions of some we deserve it "

I did bother.

Through the actions of some 'they' deserve it - not you.

Do you really believe that another guy who you've never met or spoken to, who's never met or spoken to anyone that you have, affects your life on site in any way?

You do well. So why? I'd guess it's because you understand how to interact with others. Do you put your success down to the actions of other guys? No. It's down to you. I'm sure there aren't any guys out there blaming you for their lack of success.

A

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By *bi HaiveMan  over a year ago
Forum Mod

Cheeseville, Somerset


""I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

Ai wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !

I disagree. I had no issues on my solo profile. We've met many a single guy and have plenty as friends.

When we go to clubs we often go on mixed nights and have seen and met plenty of single guys who do well and are popular.

Look at the forums. There are dozens of single guys enjoying life on site, meeting regularly and I'm pretty sure this is replicated across the population that never sets foot in them and simply uses the site to arrange meets.

The 'woe is me' single guys who complain about a lack of meets, non responses to messages and negative treatment on site have largely brought that upon themselves. Nobody affects anyone else. Single guys are as capable as enjoying Fab and swinging as anyone else.

Alol

I'm not mentioning lack of meets I've had a lot more than most !

Just the negative tone in which single men get mentioned . If u bothered reading I did say through tha actions of some we deserve it

I did bother.

Through the actions of some 'they' deserve it - not you.

Do you really believe that another guy who you've never met or spoken to, who's never met or spoken to anyone that you have, affects your life on site in any way?

You do well. So why? I'd guess it's because you understand how to interact with others. Do you put your success down to the actions of other guys? No. It's down to you. I'm sure there aren't any guys out there blaming you for their lack of success.

A

"

lol someone's got u rattled little boy !"

What have I got to be rattled about Danny?

A

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated. If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"to be fair i have heard some tales where single guys are utter dicks in there messages

so i get the respect thing to a certsin degree but hate being tarred with that brush"

but the thing is not one is tarring you....

the way you write or act has no impact on my swinging.... and the way I am has no impact on you...

you are the master of your own fate... no one else....

you have the chance to stand out... if you want to..

the site gives you the tools to help... if you want to use them....

the gateways are there... if you want to step thru them....

but in the end, all that is entirely on you.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated. If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it. "

that right there is why guys get a bad time

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated.

If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

that right there is why guys get a bad time"

how on earth is he giving guys a bad time in relation to what he said..

because the 2nd sentence in relations to couples I completely agree with... if they aren't interested in me because I am a single guy... then i am not bothered and why would you spend time trying to convert people who aren't likely to be interested, as opposed to people who are going to be interested in you

i think people need to realise and be realistic in that not everyone is potentially going to interested in you so why bother in that effect trying...

those who like me, like me....... those who don't, don't.... but i know who i am going to concentrate on...

and how other single guys are treated... well thats not on me either... like i said, they don't have any effect on me.... and what i do has no effect on them

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated.

If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

that right there is why guys get a bad time

how on earth is he giving guys a bad time in relation to what he said..

because the 2nd sentence in relations to couples I completely agree with... if they aren't interested in me because I am a single guy... then i am not bothered and why would you spend time trying to convert people who aren't likely to be interested, as opposed to people who are going to be interested in you

i think people need to realise and be realistic in that not everyone is potentially going to interested in you so why bother in that effect trying...

those who like me, like me....... those who don't, don't.... but i know who i am going to concentrate on...

and how other single guys are treated... well thats not on me either... like i said, they don't have any effect on me.... and what i do has no effect on them

"

_abio

it saddens me that all you ever do is have a go at people

if you do get meets then i am very happy for you but at the same time am amazed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

when it stops being fun we will get out but we are having too much fun to think of leaving

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated.

If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

that right there is why guys get a bad time

how on earth is he giving guys a bad time in relation to what he said..

because the 2nd sentence in relations to couples I completely agree with... if they aren't interested in me because I am a single guy... then i am not bothered and why would you spend time trying to convert people who aren't likely to be interested, as opposed to people who are going to be interested in you

i think people need to realise and be realistic in that not everyone is potentially going to interested in you so why bother in that effect trying...

those who like me, like me....... those who don't, don't.... but i know who i am going to concentrate on...

and how other single guys are treated... well thats not on me either... like i said, they don't have any effect on me.... and what i do has no effect on them

_abio

it saddens me that all you ever do is have a go at people

if you do get meets then i am very happy for you but at the same time am amazed"

I don't have a go.... i express an opinion, the problem is "some" people don't like having an opinion expressed that doesn't agree with theirs... and take it as a personal dig....

so i ask you why think the opinion expressed by the other person was a prime example of why single guys get a bad time..... you never answered it!

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By *bfoxxxMan  over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

The Internet has opened it up to everyone. Good and bad. Real and fake.

Just curious.

Years ago, you actually had to be one to get involved. My first experience was about 30 years ago,and a neighbour invited me round for dinner, the conversation went towards sexual topics, and the husband made a discrete exit for a while - Real Social network,you had to know people.

Adam and Eve, Manchester, was in the 80's a dodgy massage joint which twice a week had 'mixed sauna'nights. That interested me,it hinted at possibilities and the rest is history.

Anyone can be a Swinger from the comfort of a smart phone.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated. If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

that right there is why guys get a bad time"

And why is that exactly?

Because I refuse to aplologise for who I am?

Being "respectful" doesn't mean being meek or having no self confidence.

Why should I let the actions of other single men affect me?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Why should I let the actions of other single men affect me?"

which is the point i was trying to make... but apparently i am a hater for making it

if someone is going to be an arse... let them be an arse... it only makes me stand out more!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated.

If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

that right there is why guys get a bad time

how on earth is he giving guys a bad time in relation to what he said..

because the 2nd sentence in relations to couples I completely agree with... if they aren't interested in me because I am a single guy... then i am not bothered and why would you spend time trying to convert people who aren't likely to be interested, as opposed to people who are going to be interested in you

i think people need to realise and be realistic in that not everyone is potentially going to interested in you so why bother in that effect trying...

those who like me, like me....... those who don't, don't.... but i know who i am going to concentrate on...

and how other single guys are treated... well thats not on me either... like i said, they don't have any effect on me.... and what i do has no effect on them

_abio

it saddens me that all you ever do is have a go at people

if you do get meets then i am very happy for you but at the same time am amazed

I don't have a go.... i express an opinion, the problem is "some" people don't like having an opinion expressed that doesn't agree with theirs... and take it as a personal dig....

so i ask you why think the opinion expressed by the other person was a prime example of why single guys get a bad time..... you never answered it! "

very simple

arrogance and not actually giving a shite about anyone but themselves

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

Ai wish this were true but I'm afraid as a single guy your a dickhead time waster until u can prove otherwise...

I think cpls and females get more leverage on here !"

Not all women and couples have their heads up their arse. Some are respectful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think op what your noticing is that single guys no longer get any respect which is very true !

But I'm afraid a lot have probably asked for it

Plenty of single guys get respect.

Plenty deserve it - the same as single women and couples.

Plenty don't - by their own actions. The same as single women and couples.

A"

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

very simple

arrogance and not actually giving a shite about anyone but themselves"

i don't believe it is arrogance a lot of the time, it is people who have worked out a way to get the site to work for them... if they have used the sites tools to do that... good for them!

but you can't control what everyone else does... all you can every control is what you do! so not losing sleep if someone basically digs a big whole for themselves isnt the same as saying "oooh... me me me!"

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

I have no idea why I should give a shite about what other single guys do...

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I admit I find it hard to meet (last 2 years at least)

I think a lot of single men think this is just a sex site and no need to understand the lifestyle etc hence the increase of fancy a fuck messages I am currently receiving.

This is just my opinion of course and may not be reflected by others.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I manage to do OK. To be honest, I couldn't give a stuff about how "most single guys" are treated.

If people want to think the worst of me because of what I am, frankly it's their problem, not mine and I won't lose any sleep over it.

that right there is why guys get a bad time

how on earth is he giving guys a bad time in relation to what he said..

because the 2nd sentence in relations to couples I completely agree with... if they aren't interested in me because I am a single guy... then i am not bothered and why would you spend time trying to convert people who aren't likely to be interested, as opposed to people who are going to be interested in you

i think people need to realise and be realistic in that not everyone is potentially going to interested in you so why bother in that effect trying...

those who like me, like me....... those who don't, don't.... but i know who i am going to concentrate on...

and how other single guys are treated... well thats not on me either... like i said, they don't have any effect on me.... and what i do has no effect on them

_abio

it saddens me that all you ever do is have a go at people

if you do get meets then i am very happy for you but at the same time am amazed

I don't have a go.... i express an opinion, the problem is "some" people don't like having an opinion expressed that doesn't agree with theirs... and take it as a personal dig....

so i ask you why think the opinion expressed by the other person was a prime example of why single guys get a bad time..... you never answered it!

very simple

arrogance and not actually giving a shite about anyone but themselves"

But that's not what he actually said...He expressed the idea that if people weren't interested in him, he wouldn't let it affect him...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Are people saying that the swinging lifestyle revolves around the internet? I get confused when people say they joined the site years ago and it's gone downhill. Does swinging in real life emulate experiences on here?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember swinging being fun.

arrived on the scene about 5 years ago.

People were fun and there was a mutual respect for each other.

no hidden adgenda.

Now it seems you need to be a cold,heartless and emotionless individual.

Any idea why this is the case?

I had my first swinging experience through a contact mag aged 19... Ha ha it's changed a hell of a lot since then, but only in the way meets are arranged.

As always - people are in it for different reasons.

S x"

Same here desire magazine Polaroids and hand written letters

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