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Before discovering proper kink and exploring my cd/tv side properly i spent a couple of years visiting the local escorts.
Bournemouth does seem to have a very good escort selection. i reckon over a 2-3 year period must have spent £5k plus. That sounds like a chunk of money but i dont regret any of it. some of the fun i had was amazing. though doesnt beat a lot of the fun since.
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some more meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess! "
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs. |
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some more meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess!
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs."
Fair point!! Xx
Nothing against anyone who pays for sex - and it's nothing to do with anyone else! Xx |
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some more meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess!
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs.
Fair point!! Xx
Nothing against anyone who pays for sex - and it's nothing to do with anyone else! Xx"
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We went abroad to celebrate a big birthday. Some lads told us about a club where stunning girls offered extras. I trotted the mr down there last night of our holiday & wished him happiness.
Boy did he show appreciation for a fine woman when we got back to our hotel
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I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou |
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It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time |
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"I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou "
Like playing Russian roulette though ain't it? |
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"I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou
Like playing Russian roulette though ain't it?"
Having sex with anyone is a roulette..... |
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"I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou
Like playing Russian roulette though ain't it?
Having sex with anyone is a roulette....." I think you missed the joke there pal, I'll give you a hint..... Penis |
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"I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou
Like playing Russian roulette though ain't it?
Having sex with anyone is a roulette.....I think you missed the joke there pal, I'll give you a hint..... Penis "
He never said he was looking for a woman |
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"I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou
Like playing Russian roulette though ain't it?
Having sex with anyone is a roulette.....I think you missed the joke there pal, I'll give you a hint..... Penis "
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time "
I'll fetch a receipt book
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"I know one and have taken plenty of pictures of her, and my god does she earn some money from it. £700 a night!!
700 a night wow im thinkin about a career change"
Hmmm i'd be tempted on taking you up on that..... x |
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"I visit Thailand twice a year and I get girls from bars, I pay a bar fine around £10 then I pay anything from £20 short time to £40 long time they are aged from 18 to 25 and and have amazing bodies.
Never paid for sex in the UK thou
Like playing Russian roulette though ain't it?
Having sex with anyone is a roulette.....I think you missed the joke there pal, I'll give you a hint..... Penis "
Haha sorry it's getting late lol
You only have to ask they are happy to say if they are ladyboys or not pmsl |
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We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex. |
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex. "
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately.... |
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex.
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately...."
I think the only thing that has stopped me doing it is the thought of a guy not liking me, I know it's just about money for them but even if I was paying the thought of some guy walking in the room long at me and thinking....I'm not getting paid enough for this still bothers me |
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex.
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately....
I think the only thing that has stopped me doing it is the thought of a guy not liking me, I know it's just about money for them but even if I was paying the thought of some guy walking in the room long at me and thinking....I'm not getting paid enough for this still bothers me"
lol, i'm sure that wouldnt happen.....he'd be thinking, 'bonus...i'm getting paid aswell??...
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex.
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately....
I think the only thing that has stopped me doing it is the thought of a guy not liking me, I know it's just about money for them but even if I was paying the thought of some guy walking in the room long at me and thinking....I'm not getting paid enough for this still bothers me"
That was Beth's _iew as well. One guy made her feel great and she had a lovely time, the other guy was less smart! But for me the couple was easier as they already had a chemistry andI got to play with them.
Neither of us regret trying it, but not rushing back! |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time "
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p"
How about two tubs and an IOU? |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p
How about two tubs and an IOU? "
Peach I would meet you for 1 mini milk |
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some more meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess!
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs."
YO know some expensive e#women. Why not just get girlfriend and stay in! |
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some morep meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess!
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs."
That's a bit harsh. You must be going to the wrong clubs!
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some more meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess!
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs.
YO know some expensive e#women. Why not just get girlfriend and stay in! "
If and when I do get a girlfriend I more than likely will. Till then I'll continue to meet my needs on here |
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"Yep, I have. I think its easier sometimes to book some time with an escort, rather than hoping in vain for a meet on here! lol. I've met some really nice girls who 'escort' and to be honest it can become a bit of an addiction.... Its not very good for the bank balance though....
It would be great to get some morep meets on here, but it can take a long time for that to happen, and when you're feeling in need of a woman's touch it's sometimes easier just to pay for it.. I understand that may sound a bit sad and pathetic to some, but there you go. I do think that at least it's an 'honest transaction' as both sides know what they're getting out of it, and there's no complications....just no strings sex. it's just like being a swinger, apart from you're paying for it, but most single blokes have to pay anyway to get into a club so it's Swings and roundabouts I guess!
When you take into account travel costs, cost of entry to a swingers club, drinks, and still no guarantee of play your probably getting good value for money with an escort.
At least you know you'll get a shag and she'll, in all likelihood, look much better than the vast majority of females available in the clubs.
That's a bit harsh. You must be going to the wrong clubs!
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lived with a couple one 46 one 27 but never paid for sex... unless you count cigs and drink, a loaf of bread, ben n jerrys, a 10in dildo, a packet of smarties oh and one weirdo who demanded i poured vegetable oil on her and used cuccumbers, but never gave cash for sex. Unless throwing monopoly money on the bed is classed as payment! she loved it but i laughed as i only threw £1 notes |
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex.
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately....
I think the only thing that has stopped me doing it is the thought of a guy not liking me, I know it's just about money for them but even if I was paying the thought of some guy walking in the room long at me and thinking....I'm not getting paid enough for this still bothers me"
How much?? i will do it :P, already know i would do it for free, getting paid would be a bonus |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p"
And what do I get for £200 worth of Ben and Jerry's? |
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex.
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately....
I think the only thing that has stopped me doing it is the thought of a guy not liking me, I know it's just about money for them but even if I was paying the thought of some guy walking in the room long at me and thinking....I'm not getting paid enough for this still bothers me
How much?? i will do it :P, already know i would do it for free, getting paid would be a bonus "
10 Bob and a conker |
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I used to escort myself for a couple of years.
Still see one lady regularly but just as a fb, she no longer pays as we have become friends and enjoy each other together as and when we feel like it. 8-10 times a year perhaps.
But in the main I would not recommend it guys, there is good reason why some women need to pay to get fucked! |
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"I used to escort myself for a couple of years.
Still see one lady regularly but just as a fb, she no longer pays as we have become friends and enjoy each other together as and when we feel like it. 8-10 times a year perhaps.
But in the main I would not recommend it guys, there is good reason why some women need to pay to get fucked!"
You can say that about men though
I did escorts work when I was younger some of the guys where rough, I'd have to tell them to shower, no adult should need telling to shower! And let's say some were less than eye candy but some guys where real lookers, there were a few I'd met where I wondered why the he'll they were hiring escorts |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p
And what do I get for £200 worth of Ben and Jerry's? "
The chance to watch a man eat himself into a diabetic coma? :p |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p
And what do I get for £200 worth of Ben and Jerry's?
The chance to watch a man eat himself into a diabetic coma? :p"
Sold
I'm game for that |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p
And what do I get for £200 worth of Ben and Jerry's?
The chance to watch a man eat himself into a diabetic coma? :p
Sold
I'm game for that "
Just promise to put fresh underwear on me after your done for the paramedics :p |
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Has anyone else realised that an escort is also a car made by ford? And that if you say something like "I've been IN an escort" you're making a very witty and subversive comment about a car.
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"We've both done it. Beth with male escorts on 2 occassions and me with a female once and a couple once. We have both had one ok experience and one really good experience. Both of us have found that it feels less real and somewhat less enjoyable than meeting someone from Fab. Horses for course really, but we enjoy the flirting and chatting up as much as the sex.
I agree with you on the bit about it feeling less real! In the back of your mind you know you've paid money for it, and no matter how much you enjoy the experience, that's always in the back of your mind....unfortunately....
I think the only thing that has stopped me doing it is the thought of a guy not liking me, I know it's just about money for them but even if I was paying the thought of some guy walking in the room long at me and thinking....I'm not getting paid enough for this still bothers me
How much?? i will do it :P, already know i would do it for free, getting paid would be a bonus
10 Bob and a conker "
I have to start somewhere, that is a good offer lol , though don't forget the conker |
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I've spent 1000's on them. Nothing wrong with it. Just providing a service. As easy as ordering a pizza. Infact they arrive quicker!
I know that sounds bad , like they are an object but they earn good money and are safe. I always treat them with respect.
Everyones a winner. Though £150 an hour does take its toll on the bank balance !
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Twice I have met guys and their fantasy was to have a kallgurl arrive at theirs, one stuffed £20 in my bra,pushed me to my knees and face fucked me before holding the back of my head and cumming in my mouth, I swallowed as he would not let go until I had.
The other guy fucked me and left his cum inside me he then rolled up a £20 and slid it in my pussy pushing it inside past my entrance and then pulled my knickers back in place,spanked my ass and said "right fuck off now I'm finished" he didn't even let me fish it out or let me get changed, I had to leave fully dressed and drive away, the £20 paid for my laddered FF stockings he damaged while taking me from behind |
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"I'd rather cut my genitals off than pay a woman for sex.
That is drastic! . Why?"
Call me old fashioned, but I prefer being with a woman because she wants me and not my money. Plus I see it as pretty desperate and sad. Each to their own though.
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I married one, wife used to do a lot of escort work in Japan, didn't always result in sex, a lot of men needed her there for important business meetings and other social occasions, or just as a companion. |
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Many years ago before I became a swinger I was chatting to a lass in a chat room. Never bothered to ask her what she did for a living. Was only when we met up for some fun did she tell me she usually charged for what we were about to get up to!!!! |
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
Met enough guys who just want a blow job and a fucking paying for a guy would be my time
Strangely you have to be diabetic to get into a diabetic coma. Chances of getting into a hyperglycaemia are very slim as well
If you can fill a fridge with 200 quids worth of Ben and Jerry's you can have me :p
And what do I get for £200 worth of Ben and Jerry's?
The chance to watch a man eat himself into a diabetic coma? :p"
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's something I've always fantasised about doing, I just think having a guy for a hour or two who is there to totally pamper me and do as I request would be quite empowering
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I'm always willing to oblige |
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Yes and not affaid to admit it. As someone else said sometimes it's the ease of it. I worked unsociable shifts and at the end of the day (we'll night) I wanted company.
don't anymore. But never say never |
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Everyone pays for sex in one way or another.
It's just more honest with an escort and on a shag by shag basis probably cheaper than having a gf/bf or wife/husband lol |
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By *obka3Couple
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"Everyone pays for sex in one way or another.
It's just more honest with an escort and on a shag by shag basis probably cheaper than having a gf/bf or wife/husband lol"
When I got divorced I worked out how much it cost per shag, a lot less than a girl I went out with after used to charge .
She said that at £400 a night most of her clients were clean, smart and educated and took her places her jack ass of a husband did, when I first met her she wasnt married to him, I drove her to the wedding but was tempted to drive off with her, she left him about nine months later and moved into a rented house that I paid for, I used to visit two or three times a week but she missed his bullying and in the end I finished with her, but it wasfun while it lasted and as just divorced I wanted sex but no commitment it worked really well for me, often think about finding a nice girl to have a FFM with the wife now as it seems impossible to find one on these sites |
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"Everyone pays for sex in one way or another.
It's just more honest with an escort and on a shag by shag basis probably cheaper than having a gf/bf or wife/husband lol"
I was robbed in my marriage then. I paid all the bills and didn't get any,wonder if I can get a refund |
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Over the years I've spent a lot on escorts, some better than others.
I guess guys have different reasons but for me it was the guarantee of sex, going to a club, buying drinks all the chatting up and still you might not get anywhere.
I've met a few who fancied me so used to meet them for free, the last one I saw used to charge £900 a night - she's stopped over twice for the enjoyment of it. The money side doesn't seem seedy to me and the end of the day it's just sex, seeing an escort is just an honest arrangement - probably more honest than the married guys on here cheating on their wives |
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