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Like to open debate on this subject and gauge opinion.
To be a truely inclusive society, surely this type of activity, those with dissabilties should not be excluded.
I know for some not a comfortable subject as for the intamissy that participants may share.
Thoughts please. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I was born with (and still have) spina biffida, although very mild and very few of the "tell tale signs" it hasn't stopped people I meet, if anything I'm over conscious.
It depends, I think on the person you're trying to meet with. |
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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago
Just where I need to be. |
Who says that they are excluded? Disabilities comes in various forms. Cognitive, physical disabilities. If people have the ability to function in a sexual activity why would they be excluded? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Was a great post about disability a week or so ago. And it was pretty much general opinion then that people are not excluded.
Rules of attraction still apply. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oh I thought this post would be about fat people being classed as having a disability
Next thing you know there will be fat Olympics! "
. You best watch out next Nutella lady will be screaming disability as she put weight on covering u in the stuff then eating it!.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh I thought this post would be about fat people being classed as having a disability
Next thing you know there will be fat Olympics! . You best watch out next Nutella lady will be screaming disability as she put weight on covering u in the stuff then eating it!.
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Good advice I don't want to be sued! |
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Wow, so pleased with the encouraging early responce.
For me , out and about I often see those with disabilties and think how attractive they are.
It would not be a barrier for me...
Ha ha in certain circumstances could get an extra thrill from it.
No reason why those with dissablity who earn for attention and touch from those with ability, and vise versa. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow, so pleased with the encouraging early responce.
For me , out and about I often see those with disabilties and think how attractive they are.
It would not be a barrier for me...
Ha ha in certain circumstances could get an extra thrill from it.
No reason why those with dissablity who earn for attention and touch from those with ability, and vise versa."
You been hanging around hospitals again? Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I suppose it depends what you define as a disability because some are not noticeable doesn't make them any less of an issue for the person to whom is affected. But most certainly no people with disabilities should never be made to feel any less worthy than any other individual. X |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm ADHA positive!
Never stopped me. Along with other personal stuff but meh who cares. If your as crazy and as chatty then your bound to get in with someone. Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wow... Wtf maybe I'm missing somthing here but wow..... To even suggest somthing like this is horrible.. I don't want to offend because we all have our fantasies and i try not to be judgemental about anyone but for someone to even suggest this is wrong and to go through with it would be abusive... Are you talking someone fully conscious with a limb missing or are you going full Down syndrome? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh I thought this post would be about fat people being classed as having a disability
Next thing you know there will be fat Olympics! "
Is there no level people on here will stoop to to get a fat bash in  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oh I thought this post would be about fat people being classed as having a disability
Next thing you know there will be fat Olympics!
Is there no level people on here will stoop to to get a fat bash in "
Imagine the catering costs alone!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Never felt excluded, even when I relied on my wheelchair to get out. I can still enjoy sex, just can't perform all the positions in the karma sutra  "
can any one, lol
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've played with a guy in a wheel chair a few times, he has no feeling from the waste down so can't get an errection but fuck me his oral skills are amazing |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow... Wtf maybe I'm missing somthing here but wow..... To even suggest somthing like this is horrible.. I don't want to offend because we all have our fantasies and i try not to be judgemental about anyone but for someone to even suggest this is wrong and to go through with it would be abusive... Are you talking someone fully conscious with a limb missing or are you going full Down syndrome? "
Go through with what? What is your issue here? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow... Wtf maybe I'm missing somthing here but wow..... To even suggest somthing like this is horrible.. I don't want to offend because we all have our fantasies and i try not to be judgemental about anyone but for someone to even suggest this is wrong and to go through with it would be abusive... Are you talking someone fully conscious with a limb missing or are you going full Down syndrome?
Go through with what? What is your issue here?"
Well I would bloody hope they were conscious  |
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My on off fb has mild cerebral palsy never stopped us playing and in fact better lover than some able bodied men. Also my hubby had Parkinson's disease and until later stages was able to perform. He sadly passed away 2 years ago |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Wow... Wtf maybe I'm missing somthing here but wow..... To even suggest somthing like this is horrible.. I don't want to offend because we all have our fantasies and i try not to be judgemental about anyone but for someone to even suggest this is wrong and to go through with it would be abusive... Are you talking someone fully conscious with a limb missing or are you going full Down syndrome?
Go through with what? What is your issue here?"
Are you implying that people with any sort of disability shouldn't have sex? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Each to there own but your sat talking about sex with someone with disabilities and I personaly find offensive and want no more part of the conversation |
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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago
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"Wow... Wtf maybe I'm missing somthing here but wow..... To even suggest somthing like this is horrible.. I don't want to offend because we all have our fantasies and i try not to be judgemental about anyone but for someone to even suggest this is wrong and to go through with it would be abusive... Are you talking someone fully conscious with a limb missing or are you going full Down syndrome? "
So to have sex with someone who has a disability is wrong and abusive? If a person has mental capacity then it is not abusive. Many people who have Down Syndrome can function in everyday life activities, which actually can include sex. The OP in his post did not mention anything about fantasies. So yes I think you are missing the question. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!! |
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By *ola.Woman
over a year ago
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"Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!! "
Seriously. There are many Down Syndrome people that hold jobs,go to mainstream schools. To categorise that they have minds of a child is quite beyond belief.As you put disabilities covers a wide range so does people who have Downs. Who are you to say that they can not have sex.They have needs as much as anyone. I am not talking about swinging but sex. We have evolved with care and support for people with learning disabilities, they are actually living in the community and not locked away from society. If they have the mental capacity to understand sex and the implications then they have a right to practice.
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By (user no longer on site)
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No not in his op but a few comments down....
For me , out and about I often see those with disabilties and think how attractive they are.
It would not be a barrier for me...
Ha ha in certain circumstances could get an extra thrill from it.
Maybe I did miss somthing or maybe Iv better morals than most... I don't want to argue I made my point and you made yours so let's just agree to disagree |
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"Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!! "
There is a difference between physical disabilities and learning disabilities. If there are learning difficulties which make an individual more vulnerable then extra care must be taken to ensure they understand relationships, love , sex, pregnancy etc. It doesn't mean they shouldn't have a sex life. |
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"Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!!
There is a difference between physical disabilities and learning disabilities. If there are learning difficulties which make an individual more vulnerable then extra care must be taken to ensure they understand relationships, love , sex, pregnancy etc. It doesn't mean they shouldn't have a sex life. "
Finally someone with abit of sence... Not at one point did I say there not allowed but I think a normal functioning adult engaging with someone with learning disabilities is totally wrong!!!! |
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"Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!! "
But what you are suggesting there are people who do not have the ability to consent to sex there for it would be abuse which is not what this thread is about at all  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have a friend, Mark, who isn't on this site. He is hemiplegic and brain injury after a car crash. However he knows I swing and he suggested having a swinging party at his apartment (a neatly new and lovely 3 bed/3 bathroom rather posh place).
He certainly didn't get left out during the party!
Sadly his daughter has come back from college to live with him...so no more parties for a while! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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mr unshy is disabled due to army service hes quite scared and no one has ever been rude to us about this ,think it is hard for clubs to accom disability's but I reckon if you rang first there would help in any way their could x |
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"In what way do you feel disabled people are excluded from swinging?
A lot of clubs have dreadful- or no- disabled access. "
This is true but I suppose it all comes down to cost effective, most clubs are on more than one floor and to put lifts in would cost a lot of money, if only one it two people every month went who needed it would it really pay them to put lifts in?
I'm not saying they shouldn't I'm just looking at it from a business point if view
Saying that there is a guy in a wheel chair who goes to r3tro and they carry him up  |
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"In what way do you feel disabled people are excluded from swinging?
A lot of clubs have dreadful- or no- disabled access. "
True but the same can be said for many businesses, shops bars nightclubs etc, and swinging isn't limited to clubs |
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"In what way do you feel disabled people are excluded from swinging?
A lot of clubs have dreadful- or no- disabled access.
This is true but I suppose it all comes down to cost effective, most clubs are on more than one floor and to put lifts in would cost a lot of money, if only one it two people every month went who needed it would it really pay them to put lifts in?
I'm not saying they shouldn't I'm just looking at it from a business point if view
Saying that there is a guy in a wheel chair who goes to r3tro and they carry him up "
Think I have seen him in Xtasia too.... |
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By *hrissieTV/TS
over a year ago
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I was disabled out of the forces after the Falklands war. Since then I have undergone 60 operations on my legs and have had twice a total knee replacement .It has never stopped me swinging or having fun. I have a few physical limitations but you find ways to overcome those. Most people I have met have never commented about my disability. |
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"In what way do you feel disabled people are excluded from swinging?
A lot of clubs have dreadful- or no- disabled access.
This is true but I suppose it all comes down to cost effective, most clubs are on more than one floor and to put lifts in would cost a lot of money, if only one it two people every month went who needed it would it really pay them to put lifts in?
I'm not saying they shouldn't I'm just looking at it from a business point if view
Saying that there is a guy in a wheel chair who goes to r3tro and they carry him up "
I understand the business point of view, I agree. I was just pointing it out as one way that a disabled person may feel excluded in the swinging world.
Good for the guy at r3tro!  There's some good people. |
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Some peoples takes are worryingly skewed 
Not come across too many people with any forms of disability on Fab.
As a couple with a severely disabled Male we initially thought we'd struggle to get a meet but the swinging community has/is very accepting on the whole
Met some amazing people & we've had some mind blowing meets
Life to short
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"I'm ADHA positive!
Never stopped me. Along with other personal stuff but meh who cares. If your as crazy and as chatty then your bound to get in with someone. Lol"
I do wonder if fab would have a higher than average ratio of peeps who have ADHD? |
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"Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!!
There is a difference between physical disabilities and learning disabilities. If there are learning difficulties which make an individual more vulnerable then extra care must be taken to ensure they understand relationships, love , sex, pregnancy etc. It doesn't mean they shouldn't have a sex life. "
Otherwise they are having their Human Rights denied.... |
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"Like to open debate on this subject and gauge opinion.
To be a truely inclusive society, surely this type of activity, those with dissabilties should not be excluded.
I know for some not a comfortable subject as for the intamissy that participants may share.
Thoughts please."
Intimacy!
I have very bad asthma is that a disability ? |
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"In what way do you feel disabled people are excluded from swinging?
A lot of clubs have dreadful- or no- disabled access. That,s a valid observation you,ve made....
Begs the question WHY?? "
If you read all the posts you will see a couple of suggestions as to why |
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"In what way do you feel disabled people are excluded from swinging?
A lot of clubs have dreadful- or no- disabled access. That,s a valid observation you,ve made....
Begs the question WHY??
If you read all the posts you will see a couple of suggestions as to why "
Don't be bringing your common sense in here. It's faux outrage time!
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"Each to there own but your sat talking about sex with someone with disabilities and I personaly find offensive and want no more part of the conversation "
It's people like you that make me sick..sorry but had to be said I had a brain injury leaving me with 20 years memory loss..had to learn to walk and talk feed clothe and wash myself after my hubby became my carer...now I'm on the up after 4 years...We love sex and should be no discrimination no matter what disability you have. I understand people's shallow minded Ness and think it disgusting that they would ever contemplate meeting anyone disabled. .but if that's the case their loss...rant over sorry any offence caused...
A & J x  |
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"Maybe you need to more clear about disabilities because it covers a wide range from a toe missing to fully blown Down syndrome or worse, these are people with the mind of a child and should by no means even be concidered for sex!!!! "
How did you reach this conclusion? Whatever difficulties someone may have, they are still entitled to a sex life (Human Rights Convention) . It's just a matter of things being considered a bit more carefully. 
If this was actually practised the way it should be a lot of people with would be a whole lot happier mentally and I should imagine less violent attacks through sexual frustration would occur. |
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As long as the person has a functioning adult mind and is able to communicate (by voice, sign, eye gaze or whatever other method they use) their consent & participation then their disabilities do not come into it.
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You have to define true inclusive and disability.
Would you employ a blind painter and decorator, or a deaf receptionist, or a wheelchair use as a firefighter...
There are roles for everyone, if we are all realistic. |
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Shamen is disabled and a part time wheelchair user. But she is by far the most exciting and experimental partnee i have had she has an appetite for sex that puts shame to my ex wives (there are 2). The only downside, when she has pain then obviously its no fun for anyone (hoorah for medication) this leads to last minute meet requests and lack of understanding from people if we have to cancel a prearranged meet. Other than that generally people accept us for who we are... xxxx |
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