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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is plenty of feeling with a condom on?YEs but it don't feel the same you know.
So you would?"
Of course yes, but mostly with older women as less chance getting them pregnant  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There is plenty of feeling with a condom on?YEs but it don't feel the same you know.
So you would?Of course yes, but mostly with older women as less chance getting them pregnant "
I was thinking more of hiv!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
Yawn!!!! |
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By *B9 QueenWoman
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
No. Far too risky for my liking. |
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The title of this is unambiguous if anyone is bored by it I wonder why they're reading it.
People will always practice sex without protection some will be honest about it and some won't. I much prefer people to be honest I like to have all the information. |
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"lol wonder why everyone is so busy blaming single men, don't you see a couple admitted it also 
Single men are responsible for all that is
allegedly wrong with this site...... "
lol thats right and we sure are |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me."
That's an interesting viewpoint. You are suggesting that anyone who takes part in any swinging activity is completely amoral?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2 things that are said or done on here that I will never understand.....
1.People saying "I won't meet anyone who does bareback"
So how do they really know when people say they don't do bareback that it's the truth anyway ? why not assume everyone does it and take precautions yourself.
Random strangers saying they only play safe does not mean it's the truth what so ever.
2. People who have on their profiles safe sex listed yet have dozens of pictures of them having unprotected sex and anal sex with various different people and cum dripping from every hole going
odd to say the least  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"2 things that are said or done on here that I will never understand.....
1.People saying "I won't meet anyone who does bareback"
So how do they really know when people say they don't do bareback that it's the truth anyway ? why not assume everyone does it and take precautions yourself.
Random strangers saying they only play safe does not mean it's the truth what so ever.
2. People who have on their profiles safe sex listed yet have dozens of pictures of them having unprotected sex and anal sex with various different people and cum dripping from every hole going
odd to say the least "
Yes I think most people aren't stupid enough to believe everything they are told and would use condoms anyway whatever they are told.
Also the pictures of people having unsafe sex could be with their husband or wife and what makes you so sure its cum, you assume it is. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me."
Yes it does me to sometimes when people moan about very rude pictures.
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me."
I quite agree. People are entitled to choose their own way of living which includes whether to use a condom, have anonymous sex with numerous people, have an affair, practice fetishes etc. etc.
Whilst it's intersting to listen to different points of view, I find it difficult to accept the moral high ground of swingers who already hold "abnormal" moral standards, according to society.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I rather suspect many people (and that's all groups not just single guys) who claim to have 'safe sex only' go bareback. Some people will say it just to improve their chances of a meet! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyone bareback fucking is putting the community at risk. Just stoppit. We're all part of the wider group of people who enjoy sec as recreation, so just don't.
It's pointless, selfish, idiotic and dangerous. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Also the pictures of people having unsafe sex could be with their husband or wife and what makes you so sure its cum, you assume it is."
rather odd post there
I don't think the pictures that I was referring to and explained clearly what I was referring too could be mistaken as their husband, unless they have had 8 or 9 of them recently.
also, a cock with a milky white liquid dripping from it and out of a woman's arsehole ?!?!?!... yeah, might be fake cum 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone bareback fucking is putting the community at risk. Just stoppit. We're all part of the wider group of people who enjoy sec as recreation, so just don't.
It's pointless, selfish, idiotic and dangerous. "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Just a way of working out who approves and likely to condone it. Trap !  "
Nobody should condone it - sex with strangers is a game worth playing, but playing with your health and the health of fellow human beings isn't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Also the pictures of people having unsafe sex could be with their husband or wife and what makes you so sure its cum, you assume it is.
rather odd post there
I don't think the pictures that I was referring to and explained clearly what I was referring too could be mistaken as their husband, unless they have had 8 or 9 of them recently.
also, a cock with a milky white liquid dripping from it and out of a woman's arsehole ?!?!?!... yeah, might be fake cum
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lots of people think the lube I use is cum, so you don't always know.
also just because some may have made the mistake of not always using condoms, doesn't mean they want to carry on not using them, which is different from stating on your profile that you want unsafe sex with everyone you meet. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Here comes the std police lol.Well you go bareback and I'll use a condom and we will see who is still fit and healthy in 25 years time."
I do use condoms to, but why don't you say the same to the couple who above who admitted going bb to?.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me."
Is it "moral high ground"? I thought it was more a case of personal safety. Is wearing a seatbelt or crossing the road on the green man...moral high ground? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I don't really care what anyone does but I just can't get my head around why anyone would actually increase their chances of ending up riddled with something just for the sake of it, yes condoms aren't totally reliable but they are a shitload safer than going rawhide, still, none of my business, just keep your stds away from me lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't really care what anyone does but I just can't get my head around why anyone would actually increase their chances of ending up riddled with something just for the sake of it, yes condoms aren't totally reliable but they are a shitload safer than going rawhide, still, none of my business, just keep your stds away from me lol"
Not caring what other people do is part of the issue, in my opinion. We all owe it to each other to be safe and look out for each other, without sniping or not giving a shit. |
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"I don't really care what anyone does but I just can't get my head around why anyone would actually increase their chances of ending up riddled with something just for the sake of it, yes condoms aren't totally reliable but they are a shitload safer than going rawhide, still, none of my business, just keep your stds away from me lol
Not caring what other people do is part of the issue, in my opinion. We all owe it to each other to be safe and look out for each other, without sniping or not giving a shit."
It's impossible to care what other people do with regard to bareback sex because quite simply, people lie about it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I don't really care what anyone does but I just can't get my head around why anyone would actually increase their chances of ending up riddled with something just for the sake of it, yes condoms aren't totally reliable but they are a shitload safer than going rawhide, still, none of my business, just keep your stds away from me lol
Not caring what other people do is part of the issue, in my opinion. We all owe it to each other to be safe and look out for each other, without sniping or not giving a shit.
It's impossible to care what other people do with regard to bareback sex because quite simply, people lie about it. "
What? How on earth does that make any sense? Meeting people for sex as we all do means we're a pretty close-knit community in our local areas = everyone should care about it. Sorry but your comment makes no sense to me at all. I've had two friends die of HIV, and it was in part down to their 'devil may care' attitude which people on sites like this have toward sexual health.
It's ALL of our responsibility to ensure that people play safely. |
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This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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There are lots of people on here that do and are honest .. Lots that say they Dont and lie....
There are a few I'm sure that are honest too... We we're once in a couples room of a nw club and we were the only couple out of all the couples in their with condoms.
We assumed that okay... They all knew each other which we still didn't join in for our own reasons.... But later on found out they had all just met...
We knew who they were on fab and every profile has "safe sex only " on it
I would imagine most of us have fallen foul of a heat of The moment bare situation at some point , x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
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Yes just what I was thinking, well put there |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
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What about the fact that not all of us use the forums all the time? SO this might be a new poster, or a subject that folk who don't use the forum that often think is important?
Do you not think sexual health matters? |
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"I don't really care what anyone does but I just can't get my head around why anyone would actually increase their chances of ending up riddled with something just for the sake of it, yes condoms aren't totally reliable but they are a shitload safer than going rawhide, still, none of my business, just keep your stds away from me lol
Not caring what other people do is part of the issue, in my opinion. We all owe it to each other to be safe and look out for each other, without sniping or not giving a shit.
It's impossible to care what other people do with regard to bareback sex because quite simply, people lie about it.
What? How on earth does that make any sense? Meeting people for sex as we all do means we're a pretty close-knit community in our local areas = everyone should care about it. Sorry but your comment makes no sense to me at all. I've had two friends die of HIV, and it was in part down to their 'devil may care' attitude which people on sites like this have toward sexual health.
It's ALL of our responsibility to ensure that people play safely."
I agree that everyone SHOULD care. However it's quite clear that they don't and furthermore that they don't tell the truth about their safety precautions....my point is that caring about something of which I have no knowledge is impossible therefore I care about what I am able to.
What would you suggest I do about the people who practice bareback sex of who I have no knowledge and over who I have no influence? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What? How on earth does that make any sense? Meeting people for sex as we all do means we're a pretty close-knit community in our local areas = everyone should care about it. Sorry but your comment makes no sense to me at all. I've had two friends die of HIV, and it was in part down to their 'devil may care' attitude which people on sites like this have toward sexual health.
It's ALL of our responsibility to ensure that people play safely.
I agree that everyone SHOULD care. However it's quite clear that they don't and furthermore that they don't tell the truth about their safety precautions....my point is that caring about something of which I have no knowledge is impossible therefore I care about what I am able to.
What would you suggest I do about the people who practice bareback sex of who I have no knowledge and over who I have no influence?"
You do and can have an influence though, by voicing it on threads like this - I don't agree that you can't in any way help the cause simply because other people lie. We're all consenting adults, and we all owe it to each other to support safe practices - whether that be intercourse itself, or safety at meets etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
You could ask the same question in relation to casual sex full stop with or without a condom there is a risk. |
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I am totally surprise. To hear OP asking this question. I just look at your comfort level. You like Rimming woman's ass.some people will surely consider that revolting and risky.for these that like to bareback that's their lifestyle. Who is me to question them how they live their life.. |
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
What about the fact that not all of us use the forums all the time? SO this might be a new poster, or a subject that folk who don't use the forum that often think is important?
Do you not think sexual health matters?"
Of course it matters but im pretty sure everyone knows the risks without it being constantly raised here |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
What about the fact that not all of us use the forums all the time? SO this might be a new poster, or a subject that folk who don't use the forum that often think is important?
Do you not think sexual health matters?
Of course it matters but im pretty sure everyone knows the risks without it being constantly raised here"
I give up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"lol wonder why everyone is so busy blaming single men, don't you see a couple admitted it also "
Too true.. So many couples as well as single say safe sex always but then happy to do bb. No1 on here can be 100%sure they are sti free unless they have a break from,meets. But this is so individual and sometimes people get nasty about it.. |
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"What? How on earth does that make any sense? Meeting people for sex as we all do means we're a pretty close-knit community in our local areas = everyone should care about it. Sorry but your comment makes no sense to me at all. I've had two friends die of HIV, and it was in part down to their 'devil may care' attitude which people on sites like this have toward sexual health.
It's ALL of our responsibility to ensure that people play safely.
I agree that everyone SHOULD care. However it's quite clear that they don't and furthermore that they don't tell the truth about their safety precautions....my point is that caring about something of which I have no knowledge is impossible therefore I care about what I am able to.
What would you suggest I do about the people who practice bareback sex of who I have no knowledge and over who I have no influence?
You do and can have an influence though, by voicing it on threads like this - I don't agree that you can't in any way help the cause simply because other people lie. We're all consenting adults, and we all owe it to each other to support safe practices - whether that be intercourse itself, or safety at meets etc."
You clearly haven't seen posts I have previously made on the dangers of unprotected oral, female to female unprotected sex, toy sharing, unwashed fingers going from person to person etc.
When this subject comes up I try to point out the pitfalls but I have done it enough times to know that there are levels of safety that people find acceptable that I don't and no amount of arguing will change it. I'll continue as I have been. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's ALL of our responsibility to ensure that people play safely.
I agree that everyone SHOULD care. However it's quite clear that they don't and furthermore that they don't tell the truth about their safety precautions....my point is that caring about something of which I have no knowledge is impossible therefore I care about what I am able to.
What would you suggest I do about the people who practice bareback sex of who I have no knowledge and over who I have no influence?
You do and can have an influence though, by voicing it on threads like this - I don't agree that you can't in any way help the cause simply because other people lie. We're all consenting adults, and we all owe it to each other to support safe practices - whether that be intercourse itself, or safety at meets etc.
You clearly haven't seen posts I have previously made on the dangers of unprotected oral, female to female unprotected sex, toy sharing, unwashed fingers going from person to person etc.
When this subject comes up I try to point out the pitfalls but I have done it enough times to know that there are levels of safety that people find acceptable that I don't and no amount of arguing will change it. I'll continue as I have been."
No, I haven't seen your other posts, but you clearly get it unlike some others. Apologies if I get a bit heated, this subject bothers me greatly! X |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone bareback fucking is putting the community at risk. Just stoppit. We're all part of the wider group of people who enjoy sec as recreation, so just don't.
It's pointless, selfish, idiotic and dangerous. "
What puts the community at risk is are attitudes which cause people to lie abut what they do, meaning that everyone cannot make an informed choice. Vilification of peoples right to play how they want will cause many to lie.
That and the arrogance displayed by people who use condoms and who don't get regularly tested because they think that a piece of latex makes them bullet-proof. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Anyone bareback fucking is putting the community at risk. Just stoppit. We're all part of the wider group of people who enjoy sec as recreation, so just don't.
It's pointless, selfish, idiotic and dangerous.
What puts the community at risk is are attitudes which cause people to lie abut what they do, meaning that everyone cannot make an informed choice. Vilification of peoples right to play how they want will cause many to lie.
That and the arrogance displayed by people who use condoms and who don't get regularly tested because they think that a piece of latex makes them bullet-proof."
Absolutely. You can only do so much, but threads like this are more important then ones about who you'd snog/marry/avoid, or which member of One Direction you'd like to impregnate. |
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By *adgodCouple
over a year ago
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People say the same thing about swinging in general. I dont share that opinion, but it certainly isn't a foolproof 100 percent safe thing to do. And it never will be, because it requires putting trust in other people, which is not always a rewarding thing to do. While I dont condone bareback, how is it any different from choosing swinging over a vanilla lifestyle? Im sure lots of people dont swing at all because of the potential risks involved and would think anyone who does an idiot, regardless of the precautions taken. This seems no different. You are trying to dictate to people what is too much risk, while yourself not accepting that same dictation from other people. I think a very important aspect to this as well is that the barebackers, like most of the rest of us who have alternative sex lives, almost definitely to a person dont care what you or anyone else they aren't engaging with think about their personal choices. You are trying to save these people from themselves. This is akin to anti smoking or trying to save someone's soul. These types of viewpoints, regardless of how noble or well-intentioned, are almost always unwelcome by the people they are most intended for and seem like moral high ground. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"lol wonder why everyone is so busy blaming single men, don't you see a couple admitted it also
Too true.. So many couples as well as single say safe sex always but then happy to do bb. No1 on here can be 100%sure they are sti free unless they have a break from,meets. But this is so individual and sometimes people get nasty about it.. "
That's right |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
What about the fact that not all of us use the forums all the time? SO this might be a new poster, or a subject that folk who don't use the forum that often think is important?
Do you not think sexual health matters?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yawn!!!!"
Double yawn!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"People say the same thing about swinging in general. I dont share that opinion, but it certainly isn't a foolproof 100 percent safe thing to do. And it never will be, because it requires putting trust in other people, which is not always a rewarding thing to do. While I dont condone bareback, how is it any different from choosing swinging over a vanilla lifestyle? Im sure lots of people dont swing at all because of the potential risks involved and would think anyone who does an idiot, regardless of the precautions taken. This seems no different. You are trying to dictate to people what is too much risk, while yourself not accepting that same dictation from other people. I think a very important aspect to this as well is that the barebackers, like most of the rest of us who have alternative sex lives, almost definitely to a person dont care what you or anyone else they aren't engaging with think about their personal choices. You are trying to save these people from themselves. This is akin to anti smoking or trying to save someone's soul. These types of viewpoints, regardless of how noble or well-intentioned, are almost always unwelcome by the people they are most intended for and seem like moral high ground. "
Save them from themselves? What about the impact it has on others though? Anti smoking is one thing, and passive smoking is another, but sexually transmitted diseases are hardly comparable to passive smoking!!
A stunningly short-sighted response I must say. Staggering. |
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By *adgodCouple
over a year ago
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Second hand smoke hurts and can kill people who dont even partake in it. Seems very comparable to me. The extremely judgemental and insulting tone to your posts speak volumes. Not staggering at all though. Quite common on the internet. Keep preaching though. Im sure they will all heed your indisputable word. Lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Second hand smoke hurts and can kill people who dont even partake in it. Seems very comparable to me. The extremely judgemental and insulting tone to your posts speak volumes. Not staggering at all though. Quite common on the internet. Keep preaching though. Im sure they will all heed your indisputable word. Lol. "
Preaching about safe sex? Damn right. If you don't tell people, how else do they become educated? Why are you upset that I think safe sex is a good thing, especially in swinging circles? I don't understand your logic at all.
When people you've been close to have died from sexually transmitted diseases, try telling yourself it's a bad thing then. Christ. |
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By *adgodCouple
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"Second hand smoke hurts and can kill people who dont even partake in it. Seems very comparable to me. The extremely judgemental and insulting tone to your posts speak volumes. Not staggering at all though. Quite common on the internet. Keep preaching though. Im sure they will all heed your indisputable word. Lol.
Preaching about safe sex? Damn right. If you don't tell people, how else do they become educated? Why are you upset that I think safe sex is a good thing, especially in swinging circles? I don't understand your logic at all.
When people you've been close to have died from sexually transmitted diseases, try telling yourself it's a bad thing then. Christ."
Im simply not a fan of preaching. Of any type.Regardless of what personal experiences have led you to your soapbox. Its my opinion. And I expressed it at first with all due respect to yours, even though I do not concur with it. Its you who chooses to be derisive and high browed. Not me. And its notyour message I object to, its your method of delivery. My opinion. I dont expect to sway yours any more than yours will anyone else's. |
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me.
That's an interesting viewpoint. You are suggesting that anyone who takes part in any swinging activity is completely amoral? "
Of course not! 
My point is we all have choices: what floats my boat will turn the stomach of others, whilst activities like dogging I don't get.
Wouldn't start a thread about it though. |
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By *adgodCouple
over a year ago
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me.
That's an interesting viewpoint. You are suggesting that anyone who takes part in any swinging activity is completely amoral?
Of course not!
My point is we all have choices: what floats my boat will turn the stomach of others, whilst activities like dogging I don't get.
Wouldn't start a thread about it though."
Actually, anyone who takes part in any type of swinging IS immoral......to some people. Not us personally, but that's the whole point. It is to lots of people who dont do it. They consider it immoral and inherently dangerous. The fact that we dont care what they think, at least not enough to abandon our personal choice of sexual lifestyles, means we probably shouldn't run around telling people who choose to take even greater risks that they have no right to do so. Its hypocritical. Would like to add...we do not do bareback.....as we find it to be too risky....but that's not the point. |
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"Second hand smoke hurts and can kill people who dont even partake in it. Seems very comparable to me. The extremely judgemental and insulting tone to your posts speak volumes. Not staggering at all though. Quite common on the internet. Keep preaching though. Im sure they will all heed your indisputable word. Lol.
Preaching about safe sex? Damn right. If you don't tell people, how else do they become educated? Why are you upset that I think safe sex is a good thing, especially in swinging circles? I don't understand your logic at all.
When people you've been close to have died from sexually transmitted diseases, try telling yourself it's a bad thing then. Christ."
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I think anyone that paranoid about catching an std should think twice about the lifestyle choice. Yes we all know about taking precautions and getting tested regularly. We don't need the self righteous preaching it to us. We choose our own level of risk that us acceptable to us. Not everyone will have the same level so we then chose who we have sex with as carefully as we can. I don't get why some feel that trying to ram their views down someone's throat will change anyone's actions. We all know the risks and make our own choices. If you think others behaviour is going to have a big impact on your life then change your own actions, don't try to change others. |
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
Not a chance |
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
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you couldn't be further from the truth my friend, I posted it because I had just seen a profile where they insisted on bareback only and I were utterly disgusted, as for a desperate attempt to boost my chances of a meet?? Do me a favour!!! I've been swinging for best part of 20 years and don't need to discuss bareback sex to get a meet.
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
What about the fact that not all of us use the forums all the time? SO this might be a new poster, or a subject that folk who don't use the forum that often think is important?
Do you not think sexual health matters?"
Thanks libertine, that was to be my next post, apologies to anyone who have seen this "being done to death" but I am not a regular poster and unlike some on here I have a life away from fab and very rarely come in the forum.
It is clear to me already the mixed feelings on this and I can't believe how many think it's ok??
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Absolutely. You can only do so much, but threads like this are more important then ones about who you'd snog/marry/avoid, or which member of One Direction you'd like to impregnate."
How the fuck could you impregnate a member of One Direction ? no if you'd said Little Mix then that would be different. ....where's my lube gone  |
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Thanks all for the feedback,
Sorry if it's repetitive but I did open with a warning that this may have been done previously.
For my part as a rare forumite it was relevant at the time of posting.
Namedrop alert.
Thanks Libertine for supporting my argument so vehemently and the other pro safety members.
Those of you who don't care.. well shame on you I hope it comes back to haunt you one day.
Stay safe people and merry christmas.
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"Thanks all for the feedback,
Sorry if it's repetitive but I did open with a warning that this may have been done previously.
For my part as a rare forumite it was relevant at the time of posting.
Namedrop alert.
Thanks Libertine for supporting my argument so vehemently and the other pro safety members.
Those of you who don't care.. well shame on you I hope it comes back to haunt you one day.
Stay safe people and merry christmas.
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I was with you until your penultimate sentence...that was not nice. |
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"Thanks all for the feedback,
Sorry if it's repetitive but I did open with a warning that this may have been done previously.
For my part as a rare forumite it was relevant at the time of posting.
Namedrop alert.
Thanks Libertine for supporting my argument so vehemently and the other pro safety members.
Those of you who don't care.. well shame on you I hope it comes back to haunt you one day.
Stay safe people and merry christmas.
I was with you until your penultimate sentence...that was not nice."
Sorry but you know what I meant. |
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"Thanks all for the feedback,
Sorry if it's repetitive but I did open with a warning that this may have been done previously.
For my part as a rare forumite it was relevant at the time of posting.
Namedrop alert.
Thanks Libertine for supporting my argument so vehemently and the other pro safety members.
Those of you who don't care.. well shame on you I hope it comes back to haunt you one day.
Stay safe people and merry christmas.
I was with you until your penultimate sentence...that was not nice.
Sorry but you know what I meant."
Yes. I think I do. Thank you for the insight |
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"2 things that are said or done on here that I will never understand.....
1.People saying "I won't meet anyone who does bareback"
So how do they really know when people say they don't do bareback that it's the truth anyway ? why not assume everyone does it and take precautions yourself.
Random strangers saying they only play safe does not mean it's the truth what so ever.
2. People who have on their profiles safe sex listed yet have dozens of pictures of them having unprotected sex and anal sex with various different people and cum dripping from every hole going
odd to say the least "
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"Thanks all for the feedback,
Sorry if it's repetitive but I did open with a warning that this may have been done previously.
For my part as a rare forumite it was relevant at the time of posting.
Namedrop alert.
Thanks Libertine for supporting my argument so vehemently and the other pro safety members.
Those of you who don't care.. well shame on you I hope it comes back to haunt you one day.
Stay safe people and merry christmas.
I was with you until your penultimate sentence...that was not nice.
Sorry but you know what I meant."
Actually I hope I don't. |
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
you couldn't be further from the truth my friend, I posted it because I had just seen a profile where they insisted on bareback only and I were utterly disgusted, as for a desperate attempt to boost my chances of a meet?? Do me a favour!!! I've been swinging for best part of 20 years and don't need to discuss bareback sex to get a meet.
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Bareback is some peoples choice. No need to get disgusted... just move on. That profile is being honest.. You can choose not too play with them.... However how do you know the people you are meeting haven't been doing the same just not being open about it |
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me.
That's an interesting viewpoint. You are suggesting that anyone who takes part in any swinging activity is completely amoral?
Of course not!
My point is we all have choices: what floats my boat will turn the stomach of others, whilst activities like dogging I don't get.
Wouldn't start a thread about it though.
Actually, anyone who takes part in any type of swinging IS immoral......to some people. Not us personally, but that's the whole point. It is to lots of people who dont do it. They consider it immoral and inherently dangerous. The fact that we dont care what they think, at least not enough to abandon our personal choice of sexual lifestyles, means we probably shouldn't run around telling people who choose to take even greater risks that they have no right to do so. Its hypocritical. Would like to add...we do not do bareback.....as we find it to be too risky....but that's not the point. "
Exactly the point I was making! |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"Thanks all for the feedback,
Sorry if it's repetitive but I did open with a warning that this may have been done previously.
For my part as a rare forumite it was relevant at the time of posting.
Namedrop alert.
Thanks Libertine for supporting my argument so vehemently and the other pro safety members.
Those of you who don't care.. well shame on you I hope it comes back to haunt you one day.
Stay safe people and merry christmas.
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There is no such thing as safe sex.
Those who think there is, shame on you, you are just fooling yourself.
Condoms only allow safer sex, not safe sex. |
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"This old chestnut yet again. Can't help think some folk start this regularly discussed matter in a desperate attempt to boost their chances of a meet. "Oh look at me, I'm safe, I only practice safe sex, forget those barebackers, im the only safe guy around"
you couldn't be further from the truth my friend, I posted it because I had just seen a profile where they insisted on bareback only and I were utterly disgusted, as for a desperate attempt to boost my chances of a meet?? Do me a favour!!! I've been swinging for best part of 20 years and don't need to discuss bareback sex to get a meet.
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What I find sad is that HIV hasn't been talked about as much of late.
A lot of sexually active teens think that if they catch something they can go to the doctor and get medicine to put it right.
There was a 19 yr old in the news the other day who'd been diagnosed with hiv 
As for profiles with 'bareback only' , I think they're mad |
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Shock horror, a judgemental post yet again.
Yet if vanillas judged all swingers with the venom many judge people on here everyone would be up in arms.
If somethings not for you then pass it by, don't bitch and whine about it and feel the need to be upset on behalf of the world.
Really gets on my tits this backbiting and bitching. |
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"Shock horror, a judgemental post yet again.
Yet if vanillas judged all swingers with the venom many judge people on here everyone would be up in arms.
If somethings not for you then pass it by, don't bitch and whine about it and feel the need to be upset on behalf of the world.
Really gets on my tits this backbiting and bitching."
Nice touch of irony, asking people to pass it by if they don't like it, yet you've just bitched and moaned about something you don't like.
Not everyone has seen all the threads on safe/unsafe sex, so it's bound to come up time and time again. Just like pretty much every other topic. If you've seen it all before, you can pass it by. |
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"Shock horror, a judgemental post yet again.
Yet if vanillas judged all swingers with the venom many judge people on here everyone would be up in arms.
If somethings not for you then pass it by, don't bitch and whine about it and feel the need to be upset on behalf of the world.
Really gets on my tits this backbiting and bitching.
Nice touch of irony, asking people to pass it by if they don't like it, yet you've just bitched and moaned about something you don't like.
Not everyone has seen all the threads on safe/unsafe sex, so it's bound to come up time and time again. Just like pretty much every other topic. If you've seen it a
ll before, you can pass it by."
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An awful lot of people on here are missing the point I'm trying to make - which is that to say it's a 'personal choice' is fine, but there is whether you admit it or not, also the wider community to think of here.
We are a community in so many ways - we share sexual partners, who then share with other people, and so it goes around, so safety is therefore everyone's concern, and should be respected. A lot of you talk from what I believe is a selfish, and unsafe standpoint without any regard for the safety of other people, and the people you meet down the line, and the people they meet down the line.
Most people in sex-positive communities are very sensible and aware of these issues as I put them, but it seems a lot of people that use sites like this one, don't care and therefore put other people at risk because of their behaviour patterns. I know it all sounds like preaching to some of you, but my opinion is my opinion and I voice it here on a public forum just like the rest of you, so it has validity, just like yours does.
The personal choice to not use protection holds weight, and I can't stop you, I understand and respect that - but whether you admit it or not, you are part of the problem, not the solution. X |
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"An awful lot of people on here are missing the point I'm trying to make - which is that to say it's a 'personal choice' is fine, but there is whether you admit it or not, also the wider community to think of here.
We are a community in so many ways - we share sexual partners, who then share with other people, and so it goes around, so safety is therefore everyone's concern, and should be respected. A lot of you talk from what I believe is a selfish, and unsafe standpoint without any regard for the safety of other people, and the people you meet down the line, and the people they meet down the line.
Most people in sex-positive communities are very sensible and aware of these issues as I put them, but it seems a lot of people that use sites like this one, don't care and therefore put other people at risk because of their behaviour patterns. I know it all sounds like preaching to some of you, but my opinion is my opinion and I voice it here on a public forum just like the rest of you, so it has validity, just like yours does.
The personal choice to not use protection holds weight, and I can't stop you, I understand and respect that - but whether you admit it or not, you are part of the problem, not the solution. X"
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Always go bareback ............ would never dream of having sex with my shirt on.
Seriously its down to the individuals whether they do or don't and also down to them whether they admit it or not.
We all have to make the decision who we swing with based on the facts we are given or the feelings we have.
But for us its rubber up or no entry. |
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Ive seen this also,, and don't play in that situation, and no heat of the moment especially couples should make you forget your health,, it does baffle me |
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"An awful lot of people on here are missing the point I'm trying to make - which is that to say it's a 'personal choice' is fine, but there is whether you admit it or not, also the wider community to think of here.
We are a community in so many ways - we share sexual partners, who then share with other people, and so it goes around, so safety is therefore everyone's concern, and should be respected. A lot of you talk from what I believe is a selfish, and unsafe standpoint without any regard for the safety of other people, and the people you meet down the line, and the people they meet down the line.
Most people in sex-positive communities are very sensible and aware of these issues as I put them, but it seems a lot of people that use sites like this one, don't care and therefore put other people at risk because of their behaviour patterns. I know it all sounds like preaching to some of you, but my opinion is my opinion and I voice it here on a public forum just like the rest of you, so it has validity, just like yours does.
The personal choice to not use protection holds weight, and I can't stop you, I understand and respect that - but whether you admit it or not, you are part of the problem, not the solution. X"
I guess my issue with what you say is that I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve? The very people who's practices you are trying to change probably don't even bother to read the forum. You are largely preaching to the already converted...... |
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
If you both have recent STD clear certs, then why not have some enjoyable bareback sex. Thats the way I roll. |
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"I guess my issue with what you say is that I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve? The very people who's practices you are trying to change probably don't even bother to read the forum. You are largely preaching to the already converted......"
It's a forum discussion - I'm not preaching directly to anyone, other than the people on the thread. I'm not trying to change the world, just offering my opinion on a forum discussion. |
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"I guess my issue with what you say is that I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve? The very people who's practices you are trying to change probably don't even bother to read the forum. You are largely preaching to the already converted......
It's a forum discussion - I'm not preaching directly to anyone, other than the people on the thread. I'm not trying to change the world, just offering my opinion on a forum discussion."
Which you are entitled to do. only some people can get very defensive about this subject. |
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I don't actually care who has done bareback before!!!!. .All adults here and they have a right to do what they want and how they want so long as the other person is willing ..I'm also not bothered about photos that show bareback sex and cum filled cunts ..doesn't faze me in the slightest
I just choose to practise safe sex myself..no drama  |
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Which you are entitled to do. only some people can get very defensive about this subject. "
I think you'll find people get defensive when others are judgemental and try to tell them how to live their lives. Not necessarily over the subject matter. |
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I find the attitude towards stds here rather confusing. It's no different than catching a cold. It's an infectious disease. Ever heard anyone say that they refuse to have anything to do with someone who caught a winter vomiting bug? Or say they'd never kiss anyone who has had a cold sore?
The moral condemnation of STDs keeps them shameful and therefore less frequently treated. |
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"I find the attitude towards stds here rather confusing. It's no different than catching a cold. It's an infectious disease. Ever heard anyone say that they refuse to have anything to do with someone who caught a winter vomiting bug? Or say they'd never kiss anyone who has had a cold sore?
The moral condemnation of STDs keeps them shameful and therefore less frequently treated. "
I wouldn't kiss anyone with a coldsore....... |
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"I don't actually care who has done bareback before!!!!. .All adults here and they have a right to do what they want and how they want so long as the other person is willing ..I'm also not bothered about photos that show bareback sex and cum filled cunts ..doesn't faze me in the slightest
I just choose to practise safe sex myself..no drama "
Calm, measured & common sense posts like this will get you banned from the forums!!
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By *adgodCouple
over a year ago
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Which you are entitled to do. only some people can get very defensive about this subject.
I think you'll find people get defensive when others are judgemental and try to tell them how to live their lives. Not necessarily over the subject matter."
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I dont understand how this topic comes up pretty much daily.
To any men/women who are strongly against BB, well when you meet someone, how do you know the dick you're sucking/pussy you're licking isn't infested with HIV, Chlamydia, Herpes and whatever else?
Get over it and let pussies get filled with cum if that's what they want. No need to guilt trip those who openly admit to BB |
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"I dont understand how this topic comes up pretty much daily.
To any men/women who are strongly against BB, well when you meet someone, how do you know the dick you're sucking/pussy you're licking isn't infested with HIV, Chlamydia, Herpes and whatever else?
Get over it and let pussies get filled with cum if that's what they want. No need to guilt trip those who openly admit to BB "
don't know about guilt trip, just slightly ashamed maybe, which is why people don't like posts about it. |
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"I find the attitude towards stds here rather confusing. It's no different than catching a cold. It's an infectious disease. Ever heard anyone say that they refuse to have anything to do with someone who caught a winter vomiting bug? Or say they'd never kiss anyone who has had a cold sore?
The moral condemnation of STDs keeps them shameful and therefore less frequently treated.
I wouldn't kiss anyone with a coldsore......."
nor would i and i have canceled a meet in the past because I got one, I would never have a sex meet with a coldsore |
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over a year ago
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Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?"
NO |
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It's beginning to a lot like syphilis everywhere you go;
take a look at the dirty old men,
cock glistening once again
with putrid smells and dodgy bells aglow |
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"I dont understand how this topic comes up pretty much daily.
To any men/women who are strongly against BB, well when you meet someone, how do you know the dick you're sucking/pussy you're licking isn't infested with HIV, Chlamydia, Herpes and whatever else?
Get over it and let pussies get filled with cum if that's what they want. No need to guilt trip those who openly admit to BB
don't know about guilt trip, just slightly ashamed maybe, which is why people don't like posts about it."
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"I dont understand how this topic comes up pretty much daily.
To any men/women who are strongly against BB, well when you meet someone, how do you know the dick you're sucking/pussy you're licking isn't infested with HIV, Chlamydia, Herpes and whatever else?
Get over it and let pussies get filled with cum if that's what they want. No need to guilt trip those who openly admit to BB "
Its counterproductive! If you are agresive with people who do they don't admit to it and you don't know if people you play with or not. If people were polite decline when they need to and don't vilify people might end up not playing with people who do. Currently a lot end up playing with people who regularly have bareback sex but don't admit it because they don't want people to be abusive with them. Its bloody stupid if you ask me pushing people to do this. |
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It's a forum discussion - I'm not preaching directly to anyone, other than the people on the thread. I'm not trying to change the world, just offering my opinion on a forum discussion."
You ARE preaching and you're not just offering your opinion. Telling people to STOP IT and referring to their views as 'beyond belief' is way beyond that however 'justified you consider yourself to be. You have an opinion, fine, but your 'style' is high minded and condescending. You're just turning people off and becoming bloody irritating. |
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I didn't say anyone WITH a cold sore, I said anyone who had had one. I wouldn't snog anyone with measles, either but I wouldn't refuse to meet anyone who had had them. That's the mindset of many towards stds, managing the notion that people who have had one are somehow dirty and tainted.
As someone mentioned earlier condoms do not = safe. Group activities are rarely even that safe with condoms. When was the last time you used central dams or gloves and changed them every time you moved from person to person? Lots like to quote HIV. did you know that the most likely group to catch it are serial monogamists? Regular sex with a long-term or regular partner is far higher risk than a one-night stand. And all those who say shaving is 'more hygienic'? Studies show that it increases your risk of infection as it creates micro cuts and abrasions which open up during sex giving direct access to the blood stream.
I'm not saying minimising risk isn't a good idea, just pointing out that there's a lot of hypocrisy surrounding this subject. |
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What I can't understand is this...
Yes, it feels nicer for both to go bareback but why take a risk?
I just read a profile where its a married couple, and she will only go bareback with "big black guys"
I know its a personal choice and I'm not persecuting anyone but I just don't understand.
IMO opinion the risk far outweighs the fun
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"What I can't understand is this...
Yes, it feels nicer for both to go bareback but why take a risk?
I just read a profile where its a married couple, and she will only go bareback with "big black guys"
I know its a personal choice and I'm not persecuting anyone but I just don't understand.
IMO opinion the risk far outweighs the fun
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Yes and im thinking it could possibly be risky to meet the men she has met even if you just have oral sex with them, if they had HIV, also a lot of people don't even know they have got it and in some cases they actualy want to infect other people on purpose, you hear about it quite often. |
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"Probably been discussed many times but...
Why would anybody even consider bareback with a stranger?
Before its said "it's personal choice" I know that but...
Why would you?
Yes it has been done to death. Have you seen the look of disgust on people's faces when swinging is mentioned? They ask why would you?
Trying to take the moral high ground whilst partaking in an activity most find abhorrent always amuses me.
That's an interesting viewpoint. You are suggesting that anyone who takes part in any swinging activity is completely amoral? "
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IMO opinion the risk far outweighs the fun
I think the same with base jumping but who cares?"
Base jumpers only put themselves at risk. If someone goes bareback and gets infected, next person the go bb with could get infected. Etc etc
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IMO opinion the risk far outweighs the fun
I think the same with base jumping but who cares?
Base jumpers only put themselves at risk. If someone goes bareback and gets infected, next person the go bb with could get infected. Etc etc
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No one is forcing you to base jump, like no one is forcing you to BB. So my point remains, who cares? |
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"If we take percentages into factors, then smoking is a lot more dangerous than bb."
only if I got lung cancer from smoking I would be annoyed with myself but not as annoyed as if I got HIV the reason being is I could of avoided it by being careful and still had some fun.
you know when you smoke that you could die or get ill, its the choice you make. |
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