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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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If you move from smoking to vaping, should you change your status to non-smoker? There doesn't appear to be a Vaping option
PS I know it still means you are a nicotine addict just without the smoke and smells etc |
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By *rc83Man
over a year ago
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I agree with this, I've quit smoking in last couple of days and on vaping myself.
Sense of smell and taste is already coming back to me, but a lot will still consider this smoking.
I've changed mine to a non smoker now though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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A vaper isn't a smoker. They're a vaper. There's no smoke so no smoke smell on your breath, your body, your clothes and in your home.
I think it's not only perfectly reasonable but also the right thing to do to change your status to non smoker. You could mention on your profile that you vape if you feel you made need to vape during a meet. Otherwise it's no concern of anyone else. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I (Flo) quit the stinky cigs 13 months ago thanks to vaping. I class myself as a non smoker as I no longer smell like a smoker, put cigarettes in my mouth or fill my lungs with toxins.
I'm now at the point where I can easily go without vaping during a meet so I certainly don't call myself a smoker anymore.
A smoker is a smoker. A vaper is a vaper |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I saw a report on a research paper the other day.
Apparently those e-cigs have 10 times the cancer-forming carcinogens in them compared to normal cigarettes!!!
So nobody had better come near me if they use one!!!
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No where near the toxins that a real cigarettes. But nicotine is still a nasty thing and very poisonous. The whole reason the tobacco plant produces it is because it is a powerful poison that kills pretty much anything that eats it. As a non smoker you can still smell vapor smokers but much better than smokers |
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"I saw a report on a research paper the other day.
Apparently those e-cigs have 10 times the cancer-forming carcinogens in them compared to normal cigarettes!!!
So nobody had better come near me if they use one!!!
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looks like you've been reading the Daily Wail - shocking pice of misreporting. The research they quoted actually found that in 15 vaporisers they tested, they all had around 6 times less formaldehyde and acetaldehyde than tobacco smoke. One device tested showed 10 times more than tobacco smoke, but this was excluded from the published results as it was obviously anomalous - a faulty device or faulty experiment.
The Daily Wail chose to seize on this one result that was not considered suitable for publication.
The full research is available and published on-line for anyone who cares to search for it and read it.
Or you can just go with what the Daily Fail publishes.... |
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"I saw a report on a research paper the other day.
Apparently those e-cigs have 10 times the cancer-forming carcinogens in them compared to normal cigarettes!!!
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Then whatever you read was wrong. ALL that is expelled by an e-cig is steam. To the idle bystander there is virtually no risk. The carcinogens in cigarettes comes from the burning the tobacco itself, the 1000 or so chemicals added (including formaldehyde) to the tobacco then inhaled etc. Nicotine is an addictive substance and when ingested in solid or liquid form is a poison but it isn't, in itself, cancer forming as a rule (remember though, almost anything can be a cancer trigger; from dark toast, coffee, pollution, even falling off your bike can trigger blood cancers etc). Vaping IS the safer quit option as it removes, for the vast majority of people, smoking related risks from the equation (cancer, heart disease, high blood pressure et al) but it retains the addictive habit to nicotine. That is why smokers are more likely to quit smoking via vaping as it breaks the habits associated with smoking (idle hands etc).
Currently there is no definitive study on the risks of Vaping, but most studies agree it's the safer option to smoking. |
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Not quite correct. The main ingredient in e-liquid is either or both propylene glycol or vegetable glycerin. Both are considered "safe" chemicals, but as yet no long term studies on the chronic inhalation of their respective vapours has been carried out. I for one, would welcome such studies and would support regulation and testing of e-liquids.
Having said that, the chief carcinogens present in tobacco smoke (or any burning vegetation) are polyaromatic hydrocarbons. The worst offender being benzo alpha pyrene. None of these are present in vaping exhaust, mainly as there's no smoke.
Further, cigarettes, as opposed to rollups, pipes and cigars, have many additives included at manufacture which are carcinogenic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I saw a report on a research paper the other day.
Apparently those e-cigs have 10 times the cancer-forming carcinogens in them compared to normal cigarettes!!!
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So nobody had better c
ome ne
ar me if they use one!!!
" what if lovehoney brought out a Rampant Rabbit you could vape while your partner played would you us one
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"I saw a report on a research paper the other day.
Apparently those e-cigs have 10 times the cancer-forming carcinogens in them compared to normal cigarettes!!!
So nobody had better come near me if they use one!!!
which establishment had done the research and where was it published ?
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"I saw a report on a research paper the other day.
Apparently those e-cigs have 10 times the cancer-forming carcinogens in them compared to normal cigarettes!!!
So nobody had better come near me if they use one!!!
which establishment had done the research and where was it published ?
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There's a political party called Vapers In Power. They have a facebook page. There's a link to the results of the research on their page. The Daily Fail deliberately misreported and misrepresented the research .
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By *LUKCouple
over a year ago
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There have been a couple of short-term studies, both are pretty positive
http://www.kuleuven.be/english/news/e-cigarettes-significantly-reduce-tobacco-cravings
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/14/18/abstract |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On a slight tangent I have a few friends who use e-cigs and although they say yes, the health and smell are beneficial factors. They are in no way helping them quit nicotine as the dose is difficult for them to regulate, it being so easy to just sit and puff away and so they are still spending (ok not as much as when they smoked) a fair bit of money on the liquids and still have cravings...i.e when they run out of liquid if they arent near a shop they will still have a cigarette |
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