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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Anyone on the forums got the balls to admit they prefer to bareback? I'll start. It is my preference and know of quite a few profiles that list 'safe' sex as an 'interest' who will, in reality, bareback. So, who will admit to enjoying and preferring the same?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I enjoy it like probably everyone. But wont bareback with someone I dont know really really really really well or if I was in a relationship.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I enjoy it like probably everyone. But wont bareback with someone I dont know really really really really well or if I was in a relationship."

Never? Ever? Have you ever done? Tell the truth now!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I enjoy it like probably everyone. But wont bareback with someone I dont know really really really really well or if I was in a relationship.

Never? Ever? Have you ever done? Tell the truth now!

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The truth no I have not. I may enjoy my sex but I aint stupid and dont fancy a trip to the clinic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I enjoy it like probably everyone. But wont bareback with someone I dont know really really really really well or if I was in a relationship.

Never? Ever? Have you ever done? Tell the truth now!

The truth no I have not. I may enjoy my sex but I aint stupid and dont fancy a trip to the clinic."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I admit I've enjoyed it in the past with my ex husband and a partner but would never go bareback with anyone I meet for casual sex.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I enjoy it like probably everyone. But wont bareback with someone I dont know really really really really well or if I was in a relationship.

Never? Ever? Have you ever done? Tell the truth now!

The truth no I have not. I may enjoy my sex but I aint stupid and dont fancy a trip to the clinic."

relationship i get but if you say you have never bare backed what do you mean by someone you know really really well?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I enjoy it like probably everyone. But wont bareback with someone I dont know really really really really well or if I was in a relationship.

Never? Ever? Have you ever done? Tell the truth now!

The truth no I have not. I may enjoy my sex but I aint stupid and dont fancy a trip to the clinic.

So you go 'safe' and don't go to the GUM clinic?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I admit I've enjoyed it in the past with my ex husband and a partner but would never go bareback with anyone I meet for casual sex. "

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By *Ryan-Man over a year ago

In Your Bush

"Anyone on the forums got the balls to admit they prefer to bareback? I'll start. It is my preference and know of quite a few profiles that list 'safe' sex as an 'interest' who will, in reality, bareback. So, who will admit to enjoying and preferring the same?

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

Of course I prefer it. Condoms make willies smell and taste horrible. But for the last two years I have insisted on men wearing them and all seems to be well at the quarterly GUM visit so far.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We play safe, never bareback with casual partners. And as mentioned by a previous poster, we will still make visits to the GUM clinic.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

So how come countries that got on the condom wagon early (like the UK) have a much lower incidence of HIV than countries where condom usage is not as widespread?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love bareback, there is nothing better to cream up a woman with a nice creampie and as she lies back all your juices comes out.. love it

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple over a year ago

canterbury

question????? when u meet new partner how long b4 u start going bare bet with lots of people its not long???????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So how come countries that got on the condom wagon early (like the UK) have a much lower incidence of HIV than countries where condom usage is not as widespread?"

I think you need to check your facts.

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By *ussypussWoman over a year ago

South Birmingham waiting for the bf to come back after crimbo

As stated quite clearly in my profile, no condom - no penetration but yes, of course, I don't know anyone who wouldn't say that they prefer bareback with a long-term partner.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?"

Why not? I don't meet often. I get checked. Meet only a select number, take my time getting to know them and am selective who I meet. I'm also less likely to catch it, protected or not, as a man, than those who engage in oral sex (often to completion), so am at low risk compared with most. So, coming back to the original question, who's prepared to admit the same?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"question????? when u meet new partner how long b4 u start going bare bet with lots of people its not long???????"

If I was to meet a new partner, I'd wait long enough to make sure it was going somewhere and then as soon as we'd both been tested clear.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"question????? when u meet new partner how long b4 u start going bare bet with lots of people its not long???????"

No, it's not long. But don't meet many. Your point?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence "

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have in the past, I think most people didn't use condoms all the time when they were young, I know i didn't because I wasn't really awear of the risk facts when I was a teenager, I've only ever been in one relationship in my life and we never used condoms even the first time we had sex, however I'm older and more awear now and I always use them with men I meet off here and at clubs, men can't talk me round now days like they could when i was 18

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By *Ryan-Man over a year ago

In Your Bush

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

In the meantime your fb's husband sits there oblivious to what he may be soon picking up

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended. "

Just quoting a friend's father who was a consultant gynaecologist. Believe it you will. Disregard if you don't. But remember the ads from from years back (ads we no longer see). They spoke of SAFER sex - not safe sex

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

In the meantime your fb's husband sits there oblivious to what he may be soon picking up

I will disregard that. Thanks

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

In the seventies when we became sexually active bare back was the norm if the woman was on the pill. The word condom was only used in the occasional article and no one gave it a second thought so people of our vintage will mostly say yes, we have had bare back sex in our lifetime however not recently.

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By *Ryan-Man over a year ago

In Your Bush

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

In the meantime your fb's husband sits there oblivious to what he may be soon picking up

I will disregard that. Thanks"

I'm not surprised

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Of course people like it and do it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How did adam and eva have sex? condoms wasn't invented back then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. "

Peddling this kind of nonsense is very irresponsible.

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By *Ryan-Man over a year ago

In Your Bush

To answer the original question. When I was a teen I would. Now however I would have to have total trust in a person. There is always risks, it's how you minimise that risk.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

I'm a bit confused here as your OP asked for people to admit they preferred bareback sex, because you do and now you're kind of preaching about SAFER sex - not safe sex

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

I'm not disputing the fact that it doesn't give 100% protection but to say they give 0% protection is misleading and a dangerous statement to make as it may lead people into thinking why bother.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How did adam and eva have sex? condoms wasn't invented back then

yeah but the first time they had sex sex had only just been invented so there were no sti's

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

I'm a bit confused here as your OP asked for people to admit they preferred bareback sex, because you do and now you're kind of preaching about SAFER sex - not safe sex

Not preaching. Just saying a condom does NOT mean sex safe!!!! It simply means 'safer'. Especially worth considering for women

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"How did adam and eva have sex? condoms wasn't invented back then

yeah but the first time they had sex sex had only just been invented so there were no sti's

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Yes and you are right there lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

" I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV.

Peddling this kind of nonsense is very irresponsible."

I don't know the precise ins and outs. Nor do you. If the consultant gynaecologist was wrong, fair dos. What's your point of reference?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I will admit in my younger days late teens early twenties didn't wear condoms, but since then other than my ex wife or my current partner always safer sex since we've been swinging get tested every 3 months for everything. For us it's about risk reduction and being responsible of course it feels better without but we would prefer to reduce our risk

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!"

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!"

Surely unprotected oral equates to the same risk, doesn't it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

I'm a bit confused here as your OP asked for people to admit they preferred bareback sex, because you do and now you're kind of preaching about SAFER sex - not safe sex

Not preaching. Just saying a condom does NOT mean sex safe!!!! It simply means 'safer'. Especially worth considering for women"

But none of the women on this thread have said that they now have bareback sex

I am an adult on and adult swinging site. I'm responsible for my own sexual health and I let everyone else take responsibility of theirs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

*Gets the haribos x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*Gets the haribos x"

You sharing ST?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

In the meantime your fb's husband sits there oblivious to what he may be soon picking up

I will disregard that. Thanks

I'm not surprised"

Don't be surprised. She doesn't have sex with him and I'm clean. Hence I'll disregard your comment

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"*Gets the haribos x

You sharing ST?

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YEs I am, will give you half

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence "

Just took a read of the link provided above.

It seems the consultant gynaecologist wasn't very well informed, was he?

Thanks for the link, facts are always better than hearsay.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

And, please note, I asked for people to admit their preference was for bareback. We have all talked to many whose preference is this. And, is it any safer to swallow, which many do, than go bareback?

At least I was being honest!!!! I only ever said it was my preference!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Will happily admit that bareback 'WOULD BE' nice. But and it's a huge but...............,,, 'WE WON'T' do it with anyone except between ourselves unless a very specific criteria had been met prior by the other party.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!

Surely unprotected oral equates to the same risk, doesn't it?"

No there is less risk with oral. A risk i am willing to take. Obviously I don't floss my teeth and wouldn't have oral if I had any cuts in my mouth. I think the number of people who would use a condom for oral is very very low. I'd rather do without. Of course people will cry 'I'd never take that risk' life experience tells me that's a crock of shit!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!

Surely unprotected oral equates to the same risk, doesn't it?

You don't swallow then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!

Surely unprotected oral equates to the same risk, doesn't it?

You don't swallow then?"

Nope.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

In the meantime your fb's husband sits there oblivious to what he may be soon picking up

I will disregard that. Thanks

I'm not surprised

Don't be surprised. She doesn't have sex with him and I'm clean. Hence I'll disregard your comment "

She doesn't?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People need to bear in mind that condoms were not and never have been safety approved for group sex situations.

Off course they help but the risks increase with each additional person.

But all this has been said before, the cross transference argument: those fingers and thumbs.

The shaving rash; creating easier access for viruses.

Unprotected oral, coming on body parts etc etc...

All the above being risky yet we don't find the majority infected with sti's.

Coincidence ? I think not, condoms are keeping things safer.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

List it like yourself you mean! So why do you?

In the meantime your fb's husband sits there oblivious to what he may be soon picking up

I will disregard that. Thanks

I'm not surprised

Don't be surprised. She doesn't have sex with him and I'm clean. Hence I'll disregard your comment

She doesn't?

Yeah. She doesn't. She may well be moving out from him to live with me.

But you probably won't believe that either.

Your choice. Ho hum!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"People need to bear in mind that condoms were not and never have been safety approved for group sex situations.

Off course they help but the risks increase with each additional person.

But all this has been said before, the cross transference argument: those fingers and thumbs.

The shaving rash; creating easier access for viruses.

Unprotected oral, coming on body parts etc etc...

All the above being risky yet we don't find the majority infected with sti's.

Coincidence ? I think not, condoms are keeping things safer."

SAFER being the operative word

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

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By *hrissie1961Woman over a year ago

dumfries and galloway

"So how come countries that got on the condom wagon early (like the UK) have a much lower incidence of HIV than countries where condom usage is not as widespread?"

Because it was run in conjunction with needle exchange programs

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yeah it's better without but i only do bareback with my husband and partner of nearly ten years. I'd rather be around for my kids then endanger our health for the sake of sex being a bit better. But that's just us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I meant my partner and now husband lol I don't have a partner and a husband just to clarify haha

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So how come countries that got on the condom wagon early (like the UK) have a much lower incidence of HIV than countries where condom usage is not as widespread?

Because it was run in conjunction with needle exchange programs "

Needles played a part, but sexual health education of non-drug addicts was the key factor.

'The most common way of getting HIV in the UK is by anal or vaginal sex without a condom. According to statistics from the Health Protection Agency, 95% of those diagnosed with HIV in the UK in 2011 acquired HIV as a result of sexual contact.'

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/HIV/Pages/Introduction.aspx#close

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long."

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Truthfully? In a long term, secure, safe relationship with a clear (clean) sexual history and both D&D free then, of course, it's SO much better to have uncovered sex. Certainly for the male it feels 100 times better feeling the warmth and wetness.

But in a Swinging relationship or other relationship where the above doesn't hold true, absolutely not!

I would never go down the BB route with anyone from here at all - safe sex all the way no question at all!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Surely everyone would prefer to bareback. No-one chooses condoms 'because they are nice'.

No such thing as safe sex. SafeR sex maybe.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence "

That's a dangerous and inflammatory thing to say, not only that but flies in the face of medical fact, safer sex yes, no protection against HIV? Rubbish

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You will always get the moral police, the most popular is married and bareback threads lol.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You will always get the moral police, the most popular is married and bareback threads lol."

Oi, don't mention the 'M' word, you know it sets 'em all off'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You will always get the moral police, the most popular is married and bareback threads lol.

Oi, don't mention the 'M' word, you know it sets 'em all off'

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lol ops I forgot about that one, lets see how it goes

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

That's a dangerous and inflammatory thing to say, not only that but flies in the face of medical fact, safer sex yes, no protection against HIV? Rubbish"

Maybe, just maybe, a consultant gynaecologist knew more than you? Or do you know more than him?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

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By *iuliettaWoman over a year ago

DEVIZES

sure, i would absolutley and totally prefer BB. I was married 26 years and that is what I am used to. However since I am now on my own, I am happy with a community where safer sex and condom use is discussed or at least mentioned beforehand as a matter of course

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?"

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT"

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Of course bareback feels better, but I have to know and trust someone extremely well before I'll even consider it. I have had exclusive bareback arrangements with FB's and protected with everyone else, doesn't everyone do this ???

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Of course bareback feels better, but I have to know and trust someone extremely well before I'll even consider it. I have had exclusive bareback arrangements with FB's and protected with everyone else, doesn't everyone do this ???"

No. They don't. However, due to the mores involved, those who indulge daren't say

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?"

No. Just remember that the figures showed that women were six times as likely as men to catch diseases due to the volume and nature of juices transferred. So it seems a reasonable extrapolation. Also know it is highly unlikely for a man to catch HIV from a woman. Much more likely the other way round though

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

what figures?

so when you say FACT its an opinion..?

not making a judgement on how you choose to play, that's your choice but your stating many things that you say are FACTS and it looks like they are not which is worrying when were talking about possible sti's..

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By *oxy-blonde-vixenWoman over a year ago

Peterborough

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Of course we prefer bare back but it's only something we indulge in with each other.

All meets are protected sex. We both do oral without but shel doesn't allow men to cum in her mouth and we have 3 monthly checks at the gum clinic

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

what figures?

so when you say FACT its an opinion..?

Not an opinion. Fact. Seminal fluid is a great carrier for the likes of HIV/Aids. I saw a few years back the figure that women were six times more likely than men to catch Aids from men than vice versa. Sorry I can't produce the press clipping but that's what I read. And it makes sense. A man cums in a woman - vaginally, orally, anally - and she is in imbibing, for want of a better word, more than a straight man will through oral, anal or intercourse. Or would you disagree?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

That's a dangerous and inflammatory thing to say, not only that but flies in the face of medical fact, safer sex yes, no protection against HIV? Rubbish

Maybe, just maybe, a consultant gynaecologist knew more than you? Or do you know more than him?"

Consultant gynaecologists thought that the pill would make women go mad, senior consultants thought that the MMR vaccine caused autism, doctors believed that immunisation didn't work. People get things wrong, will you stop using condoms? Condoms work, fact.

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By *SweetVioletxWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

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By *SweetVioletxWoman over a year ago

Liverpool

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate"

Based on the contents on this thread.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate"

Because plenty of people on this thread have already told you they have done bareback in the past so why on earth you're now saying that you're 'the only person on Fab who's ever done bareback' is beyond me!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

How many say they are currently doing this?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

How many say they are currently doing this?"

How the ecky peck is she supposed to know that?!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

How many say they are currently doing this?

How the ecky peck is she supposed to know that?!"

Well I'm just polishing up my crystal ball but it's Halloween and I think the bats have buggered up the signal

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

Simplest is to read how many have posted, see how many say they bareback. Then work out the percentage. I teach Maths so can help if you like

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

How many say they are currently doing this?

How the ecky peck is she supposed to know that?!

Well I'm just polishing up my crystal ball but it's Halloween and I think the bats have buggered up the signal

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

only with him

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

Simplest is to read how many have posted, see how many say they bareback. Then work out the percentage. I teach Maths so can help if you like

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

How many say they are currently doing this?

How the ecky peck is she supposed to know that?!

Well I'm just polishing up my crystal ball but it's Halloween and I think the bats have buggered up the signal

Simples. How many have said they bareback? Divide that by the number who have said yes or no. Multiply by one hundred. That gives you a percentage

As a Maths teacher, I can help if you like

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

Simplest is to read how many have posted, see how many say they bareback. Then work out the percentage. I teach Maths so can help if you like

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

How many say they are currently doing this?

How the ecky peck is she supposed to know that?!

Well I'm just polishing up my crystal ball but it's Halloween and I think the bats have buggered up the signal

Simples. How many have said they bareback? Divide that by the number who have said yes or no. Multiply by one hundred. That gives you a percentage

As a Maths teacher, I can help if you like

so why are you asking someone else for the answer?

this is all very confusing, you say that no one has said they have ever done bareback, then say you meant are they doing it now, then you ask a question and all the while you know the answer, Most peculiar.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

So are you here to save us from ourselves?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Seems I'm the only person on fab who's ever done bareback!

Only I'm not!

Bear. (should I say bare??!!) that in mind next meet you have!

At least I'm open!

Beware those who aren't m!

Back to my wine!

It seems like you trying to stir up a shit storm?

No. Why do you think I am? Please elucidate

Based on the contents on this thread."

How so, sweet Violets? I simply asked how many people would admit to barebacking. Not many. Yet, in my experience, lots will.

Not creating a shit storm.

Just giving food for thought??????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Prefer bareback, obviously.

would I ever with anyone other than a long-term partner?

Not a fucking chance - FFS, how long will it be before people understand about STIs?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

So are you here to save us from ourselves?"

No. Please yourself. As I will, myself. Just trying to raise awareness of an uncomfortable truth. A lot of people who claim to play 'safe' don't - and how safe is safe? That's all! No judgement from me. Plenty from others about me though!

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

So are you here to save us from ourselves?

I have always been aware of the risks inherent in unprotected oral sex and so I suspect have a lot of other people on this thread. You seem to have used your judgement to imply that we weren't

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

So are you here to save us from ourselves?

I have always been aware of the risks inherent in unprotected oral sex and so I suspect have a lot of other people on this thread. You seem to have used your judgement to imply that we weren't

What protections do you take on oral sex?

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

So are you here to save us from ourselves?

I have always been aware of the risks inherent in unprotected oral sex and so I suspect have a lot of other people on this thread. You seem to have used your judgement to imply that we weren't

What protections do you take on oral sex?"

That is none of your business unless you were to meet me.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"What people who advocate 'safe' should be more worried about is how many bareback WITHOUT being open - especially when swallowing! Who knows what's in that jism????

So are you here to save us from ourselves?

I have always been aware of the risks inherent in unprotected oral sex and so I suspect have a lot of other people on this thread. You seem to have used your judgement to imply that we weren't

What protections do you take on oral sex?

That is none of your business unless you were to meet me. "

Fair enough. No bodily fluids exchanged though?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

Aren't you contradicting yourself op? How does a woman catch something from swallowing semen unless the man is already infected? Therefore the numbers should be the same. And the acid in a stomach kills a lot of things that the inside of a cock doesn't

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

No. A woman swallows more cum than a woman excretes. Semen is a better carrier for infection too. As I have said above, I have read that a woman is SIX times more likely to catch from an infected man than vice verda

Food for thought???(

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Life is about taking risks

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By *paexpressMan over a year ago

letchworth

I have been reading this thread with considerable interest. This is a real life story so trust me. My wife and I have been swinging for 30 years and I have watched her with a lot of blokes.

We have NEVER gone bareback with others however she has had unprotected oral sex but never swallowed. In Feb this year she contracted Hep B and was in hospital for 2 weeks for tests etc.

We were questioned by Public Health and had to give lots of information to them.

She had had 5 blokes in the previous 6 months and only one had cum in a condom. The rest came over her body.

we were told it was caused by unprotected sex but it could have been caused by an operation she had previously.

She has fully recovered but we were devastated and thought we were safe. We even had to have our grown up children tested. can you imagine.

Our doctor told us no sex is safe.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just like buses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

And, please note, a carrier doesn't automatically infect a partner! And no amount of stomach acid will destroy something like HIV - that last bit is not scientific fact but just personal opinion, but surely??????

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Same old barebacker apologist nonsense. Just likecbuses, there be another along before too long.

Not being an apologist, just honest! At least I am! Half the women and couples I've spoken to who list 'safe sex' will, if asked, go bareback

So, when you play "safe", who are you playing safe with???

Plus, I still haven't had a full answer how no condom when indulging in oral is safer than bareback when it comes to the likes of AIDS, have I?

Demand answers all you like! It's a personal choice what people do. Their choice! If you want all the facts get yourself down the gum clinic and ask the experts.

So do you have unprotected oral with people off here? Do you swallow?

That's the point. We all take risks. We all weigh up the pros and cons

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

Food for thought???("

But not SIX times more through oral!

And most of the women I've been with excrete a lot more cum/fluid than a man. Maybe you're not doing it right

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have all made mistakes in our past and present too. I don't accept cum in my mouth let alone swallow. To the op, does your partner have a comment to add to your thread?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have all made mistakes in our past and present too. I don't accept cum in my mouth let alone swallow. To the op, does your partner have a comment to add to your thread? "

Meant to say I don't bareback either

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only person who will ever get me bareback is tigger. I notice there is no mention of bareback sex on your profile

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"We have all made mistakes in our past and present too. I don't accept cum in my mouth let alone swallow. To the op, does your partner have a comment to add to your thread? "

Jane is asleep. Her only boundary is that only I can cum in her pussy. More a psychological thing than anything. Why do you ask?

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By *nlyfun3Woman over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

I think everyone would prefer bareback but each is responsible for their own safer for semantics sake... although it is called safe sex so this term is just as acceptable.

Safe sex its to use a condom to whatever extent they choose and have regular check ups as some viruses such as HIV and syphillus have a 3 month incubation period so may not show up on a 1 off check up.

And as for the silly discussion as to what is correct use or safe sex as regular attendees of clinics you should all be aware as the clinic advise and answer any questions u may need. Also the following reliable info is available to all.

http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/STIs/Pages/Sexualactivitiesandrisk.aspx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Only person who will ever get me bareback is tigger. I notice there is no mention of bareback sex on your profile "

We make our boundaries known to (prospective) partners prior to meets. No one is misled. Similarly on our single profiles. On mine, I consciously never ticked 'safe' sex as it's not my preference and have always checked with people on this issue before meets.

Hence I know some who tick safe sex don't always practice!

Guess people above won't approve - or is it easier to have a pop at the OP?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Only person who will ever get me bareback is tigger. I notice there is no mention of bareback sex on your profile

Hence I know some who tick safe sex don't always practice!

Guess people above won't approve - or is it easier to have a pop at the OP?"

Not having a pop at the op just stating my personal opinion

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By *aucy3Couple over a year ago

glasgow

When the moralising starts,

The honesty stops.

Honest answers to the original question,

would have been of interest to all,bb or not.

Unfortunately the holier than thou mob,

Claim the moral high ground,

leaving little room for open debate.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Only person who will ever get me bareback is tigger. I notice there is no mention of bareback sex on your profile

Hence I know some who tick safe sex don't always practice!

Guess people above won't approve - or is it easier to have a pop at the OP?

Not having a pop at the op just stating my personal opinion "

Well, you mentioned my own profile! Anyway I'll take what you said at face value. I honestly don't have a problem with people who practice "safe". Just be aware lots don't - and a good number pretend they do!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Some people bare back, up to them

Some people do it and not say, again up to them,

Some practice 'safer' sex, good on em.

If you want 'safe' sex.......abstain. That's the only true safe sex.

There are enough threads with information about it without the need to be preached to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Some people bare back, up to them

Some people do it and not say, again up to them,

Some practice 'safer' sex, good on em.

If you want 'safe' sex.......abstain. That's the only true safe sex.

There are enough threads with information about it without the need to be preached to. "

Quite right. Trouble is the preachy brigade drive a lot underground and so lots play without protection but no one ever knows. At least those I've been with know my preference beforehand!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So they go underground, that's up to them. Look after your own sexual health and leave others to their choices.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Assume that everyone does bareback. Whether they say they do or not. Simple.

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By *L RogueMan over a year ago

London

"Assume that everyone does bareback. Whether they say they do or not. Simple."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Funny that there's no mention of bareback in your profile and you list safe sex in your interests!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'd agree totally we must assume everyone goes so we have a responsibility to ourselves and other to keep it covered. Condoms are very effective in preventing STDs spread by bodily fluids, especially chlamydia, gonorrrhea and HIV. They are less effective in preventing infections that are spread through skin to skin contact, such as human papilloma virus (HPV, linked to genital warts and cervical cancer) and herpes.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"question????? when u meet new partner how long b4 u start going bare bet with lots of people its not long???????"

I've been with my other half a year. We met on here and moved in together four months ago. We've only started going bareback in October. It felt weird at first because it's been years since either of us have.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We prefer it as feels so much better, having said that it's not something we do with everyone or people we have no intention of knowing and playing with long term

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wow!! Good luck getting any meets at all now op, fabicide anyone??

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Wow!! Good luck getting any meets at all now op, fabicide anyone??

We have no problems with meets. Thanks

As I tried to point out, plenty practice bareback - but don't say! Given the above, don't you see why they won't say?

So those who find fault with bareback drive it underground

Consequently you end up playing with those who go bareback with others. If they then cum in, say, your mouth, how safe are you?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Wow!! Good luck getting any meets at all now op, fabicide anyone??

We have no problems with meets. Thanks

As I tried to point out, plenty practice bareback - but don't say! Given the above, don't you see why they won't say?

So those who find fault with bareback drive it underground

Consequently you end up playing with those who go bareback with others. If they then cum in, say, your mouth, how safe are you?"

I wouldn't waste your breath trying to persude me your right... Your talking bullocks and good few people will be adding you to their blocked list because of this thread. In no way is bareback safer than using condoms. I'd get yourself down the gum clinic pronto, god knows whats cooking in your foreskin

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

OP, fair play to admitting your preferences but why have safe sex listed as an interest, is that not a little misleading to potential meets?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"OP, fair play to admitting your preferences but why have safe sex listed as an interest, is that not a little misleading to potential meets?"

Exactly what we said earlier and why don't they mention they do bareback in their profile??

They didn't reply to me when asked but replied to virtually everyone else

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

What was the Doctors name? For such a person to state that condoms are not protective against HIV needs reporting to the GMC!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence

I work supporting people who are HIV positive and can quite categorically state that I have never heard the consultant ever state anything like that, condoms are always recommended.

What was the Doctors name? For such a person to state that condoms are not protective against HIV needs reporting to the GMC!"

Doctor Dolittle I expect

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Of course we prefer bare back but it's only something we indulge in with each other.

All meets are protected sex. We both do oral without but shel doesn't allow men to cum in her mouth and we have 3 monthly checks at the gum clinic "

Spot on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We have all made mistakes in our past and present too. I don't accept cum in my mouth let alone swallow. To the op, does your partner have a comment to add to your thread?

Jane is asleep. Her only boundary is that only I can cum in her pussy. More a psychological thing than anything. Why do you ask?"

I asked because this post it involves her surely to a point. So you dont bareback sex with others. I wasnt criticising you both, just having my opinion and trying to be nice. I apologise if I offended you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Can't believe I just read all the posts on here.

I should have made a tally of all the contradictions, dodgy advice, and maths based on those who've posted - taken to represent every single Fab member. Since every single fab member clearly posted to the thread

Boredom is a bad thing for me. I'm getting out of bed now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

what figures?

so when you say FACT its an opinion..?

I can't really be arsed to read the rest of the thread. *IF* what you're saying is true (and that's a big if) and a woman is more likely to catch an STI from unprotected oral than a man is from bareback, that changes nothing for me because I'm a woman. I don't really give a shit about the risks or otherwise for a man, that's for them to worry about and I'll look after myself how I see fit. You're allegedly a couple - don't you care about the sexual health of the female?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bareback....dont think i fancy a big bare on my back thanks

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

There is little point arguing. Because as soon as a point is made there is a switch to a different point.

For example the talk of bareback for women being more dangerous was then used to sTate opinions about oral. When bareback covers a multitude of penetrations not just oral.

The reply does not stick to the point it widens or narrows the point therefore making any discussion pointless. It's a bit like when politicians talk about the economy and will reply to a question about the deficit by talking about debt. Then move between debt as a percentage of GDP to total debt. They keep answering subtlety different points. Therefore always seeming to have an answer when actually they provided none.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bareback....dont think i fancy a big bare on my back thanks

That would be bear. As in we are going on a bear hunt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Bareback....dont think i fancy a big bare on my back thanks

That would be bear. As in we are going on a bear hunt."

I very well know that

just thought a little humour would be fitting. I guess im just a tad to silly

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Funny that there's no mention of bareback in your profile and you list safe sex in your interests!!"

The boundaries we have in place on our couple's profile is different to mine on my single profile. Ok?

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

As for HIV specifically.

Once semen gets past the mouth, stomach acid and enzymes in the esophagus kill the virus. So swallowing or spitting out semen (cum or precum) reduces your risk for HIV, compared with letting it sit in your mouth. A popular jingle is: Spit or Swallow, Don’t Let it Wallow.

However this is HIV only. Other sti's carry alternative risks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"As for HIV specifically.

However this is HIV only. Other sti's carry alternative risks."

Really? Surely if this is true, then those same acids and enzymes could eradicate the disease entirely?

I wasn't aware there are any ways of 'killing' viruses

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

"As for HIV specifically.

However this is HIV only. Other sti's carry alternative risks.

Really? Surely if this is true, then those same acids and enzymes could eradicate the disease entirely?

I wasn't aware there are any ways of 'killing' viruses"

I think that says it all.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT

do you have a link to the medical facts you state?

what figures?

so when you say FACT its an opinion..?

So your 'facts' are from a cutting several years ago that you are taking as some sort of guidance for your position..?

you make no sense at all tbh, enjoy the site..

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By *londeCazWoman over a year ago

Arse End of the Universe, Cumbria

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!"

This...in my teens (pre AIDS days) I barebacked, caught the clap once, have given unprotected oral always and so far no problems. I go to the clap clinic every 3 months (sooner if I have a condom accident) and I barebacked with a FB for a while after we both had checkups. For a random meet, I'd not do it regardless of how long we'd been chatting

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"As for HIV specifically.

However this is HIV only. Other sti's carry alternative risks.

Really? Surely if this is true, then those same acids and enzymes could eradicate the disease entirely?

I wasn't aware there are any ways of 'killing' viruses

I think that says it all.

Having PM'd I'm happy to say I learned something new. Thank you. Always happy to in reasoned debate. Take care

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By *teveanddebsCouple over a year ago

Norwich

"In the seventies when we became sexually active bare back was the norm if the woman was on the pill. The word condom was only used in the occasional article and no one gave it a second thought so people of our vintage will mostly say yes, we have had bare back sex in our lifetime however not recently."

Aaah, when safe sex meant giving a false name

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By *uckandbunnyCouple over a year ago

In your bed

Aaah, when safe sex meant giving a false name

Did Houdini do a line in safe sex videos?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well i can honestly say its offered alot !

Especiallly cuck cpls where the hubby wants to or is made to clean up afterwards.

Not sure theres much honesty on these forums !

And oh yes ive got the messages saved to prove it

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

I doubt if you will get many saying they don't prefer it...but that doesn't mean they would do it with just anyone.

You might get some saying they swing bareback as has happened in the past, but their admissions are not normally greeted well so a lot wont chance saying they do.

For me I think it is all about choice, if people choose to bareback that is up to them, just as it is our choice that we dont bareback.

In a ideal world it would be good if they say so, but a lot dont advertise it so I class anyone we meet as they could have gone bareback and look after our sexual health instead.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Who wouldn't prefer it? It's not about enjoyment though it's about staying safe and I'd take the slight annoyance of a condom over the horrible STD any day.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"My sexual health is my responsibility nobody elses. Condoms always to minimise risks. Unprotected oral but regular trips to the gum clinic. If people don't like it - the doors that way!

Surely unprotected oral equates to the same risk, doesn't it?"

No it doesn't.... And from your posts you do not sound very clued up on sexual health... Condoms Dont protect against all.... But they do offer greater protection than nothing

We get tested every 6 weeks...And use condoms for penetration but not for oral. And as a gg I think ive sucked more Cocks than many..... And not caught anything.. (touch wood) I worry more about my eye x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Swallowing for a woman is a bigger risk than going bareback (vaginally) for a (straight) bloke. FACT"

Okay ive now read the whole thread... Sorry but it's not fact at all.. oral is a much lower risk even if ejaculation takes place...

Risk is highest for anal, then actually cum in your eye, then vaginal, then oral .. of course other factors increase risk.. is bad gums etc or cuts

Women are more at risk of catching an sti than a man.... One area of risk forgotten is fingers not washed in between ladies at clubs or parties...

And I agree that many say safe sex but don't abide by it... So we go on our own choices and keep our tests up to date x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am a heterosexual, and I will admit I like to bareback. I get regular tests from the STD clinic with certificates, and I would ideally like to meet women with recent STD certs, for bareback sex.

While I accept this carries a risk, I see the risk as lower than driving, or using a motorbike. Life is about enjoying yourself, while managing risk.

This is a lengthy thread, its interesting that most people failed to answer your question. They simply invaded your thread and criticised bareback. It has to be said, FABswingers has one of the worst atmospheres when it comes to talking about bareback. *had to post again, as admin did not like my mention of another site.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am a heterosexual, and I will admit I like to bareback. I get regular tests from the STD clinic with certificates, and I would ideally like to meet women with recent STD certs, for bareback sex.

While I accept this carries a risk, I see the risk as lower than driving, or using a motorbike. Life is about enjoying yourself, while managing risk.

Very commendable that you're so upfront on your profile about your commitment to bareback. It means people can make an informed judgement about whether or not to meet you

How's the approach working out?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well i shall admit to have been bared in the past with an ex boyfriend. Not before or since though.

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By *wentytoyCouple over a year ago

Gloucester

Seems as though everyone on the thread plays safe only, now there is a surprise.

We only play bareback. Tested every 4 weeks.

Oh, and some posters need to check their STI facts!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The misinformation in this thread (especially from the OP) is both startling and depressing.

No wonder those of us with HIV have a hard time actually explaining the real risks.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i prefer bareback

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i prefer bareback"

lol x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"i prefer bareback"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I very much enjoy bareback sex, but I wouldn't do it with just anyone, there has to be a proper sexual connection and mutual trust. Climaxing inside a woman is a wonderful feeling x

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

I prefer bareback, but use condoms with a new partner until I know them better.

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By *oiluvfunMan over a year ago

Penrith

"I very much enjoy bareback sex, but I wouldn't do it with just anyone, there has to be a proper sexual connection and mutual trust. Climaxing inside a woman is a wonderful feeling x"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would say most people prefer bareback as lets face it, faffing about with condoms can be a pain but bareback is not an option for me in this lifestyle. I'd much rather faff about with them than catch an STI or worse, have an unwanted pregnancy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Of course I prefer bareback but it's a big no no if it's within the swinging world.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Prefer bareback with someone i know as i like to eat creampie after. Not the same out of a condom

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By *all-Eddies QosCouple over a year ago

wirral

Last time I mentioned anything on this, the o.p (different thread) then messaged me asking if I was interested in a bbgb..

Just because I like bb and being filled with cum doesn't mean I do it with randoms

But like many people on this thread I have bb with strangers (in my youth) or times when I had got carried away with someone I'd known for a long time

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"The misinformation in this thread (especially from the OP) is both startling and depressing.

No wonder those of us with HIV have a hard time actually explaining the real risks."

I have to admit I didn't know you could have HIV and not pass it on. However, that said, I wouldn't meet someone with HIV, regardless.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Were you not aware it is SAFER sex? NOT safe sex? I had a friend whose father was a consultant gynaecologist who stated that condoms were NO protection against HIV. Only safe sex is abstinence "

A seatbelt isn't guaranteed to save your life in a car crash but you still wear one though

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