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Does Fab give some people a false sense of High Esteem?

By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

We all know that there are a huge % of guys who will fuck anything ! Does anybody else think that this just leads to a false sense of high esteem to the many ugly women on this site ? Of course there are many beautiful women too but it seems to me that the uglies create criteria for meets that they would never ever achieve in a world outside swinging.

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can only speak for myself. Some find me attractive , some don't. I get more attention outside of fab than in it. I keep my criteria the same across both, if i wouldn't shag them outside fab then i won't shag them through fab. If that makes sense. Also, if i get a sense that someone wouldn't shag me off of fab, or would shag absolutely anyone then i won't go there. In my case, and I'm sure in the case of many other women on here, fab isn't something that artificially inflates our self worth. I use fab because i enjoy the social aspects and it makes it more convenient to line up meets than booking sitters to go to the pub and pull.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We all know that there are a huge % of guys who will fuck anything ! Does anybody else think that this just leads to a false sense of high esteem to the many ugly women on this site ? Of course there are many beautiful women too but it seems to me that the uglies create criteria for meets that they would never ever achieve in a world outside swinging.

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

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Very true some go so power mad they try to be prime minister

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

This probably doesn't relate so much to you "earnmehow'.. theres definitely some women on here that wouldn't get a shag from going on the pull down the pub

but thats just a personal point of _iew.

dont get me wrong if that what makes them happy then good for them

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By *iceduoCouple (FF) over a year ago

manchester

I am demigod of pulling

xx jen

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

Very true some go so power mad they try to be prime minister

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"I am demigod of pulling

xx jen "

And i can see that Jen

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Fab gives some women a higher level of self esteem as well as it turns some men into spiteful bitter old whingebags

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"Fab gives some women a higher level of self esteem as well as it turns some men into spiteful bitter old whingebags

LOL... think it can work both ways there

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men.

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By *emmefataleWoman over a year ago

dirtybigbadsgirlville

"Fab gives some women a higher level of self esteem as well as it turns some men into spiteful bitter old whingebags

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And vice versa.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

dont get me wrong if that what makes them happy then good for them"

So why post a discussion about it with rather bitter undercurrents if you have no problem with it??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Fab gives some women a higher level of self esteem as well as it turns some men into spiteful bitter old whingebags

LOL... think it can work both ways there "

True

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By *ustcutieWoman over a year ago

edinburgh

"Fab gives some women a higher level of self esteem as well as it turns some men into spiteful bitter old whingebags

Without a doubt

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men."

Perhaps we should ask Fab to put an ugly filter in the search engine to save time.. i know i'd use it LOL

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In 'the real world' I'm pretty much invisible to everyone, does that mean I'm a ugly woman?? Have I got too much self esteem??

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By *issHottieBottieWoman over a year ago

Kent

Surely that's the desperate men's fault for flattering these ugly bids just so they can get a shag?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have been lucky and mets some lovely looking men and some have wanted to see me again, where as less attractive men havnt wanted to see me again.

so, what would you make of that?

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

dont get me wrong if that what makes them happy then good for them

So why post a discussion about it with rather bitter undercurrents if you have no problem with it??

I'm just interested to see if my fucked up mind is completely fucked up or actually my thoughts are mirroring other peoples on here as well

no bitterness at all

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

"Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men.

Perhaps we should ask Fab to put an ugly filter in the search engine to save time.. i know i'd use it LOL"

Ive just used it.

Who said that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

shame you have to voice you think so many women are ugly -

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By *exxifun5Couple over a year ago

NORWICH

I must admit I sort of agree with this ... on here I am constantly flattered and there is definitely no shortage of male admirers who boost my ego

in my vanilla life I am still the same person . but wen I down the pub or out with my friends I am the last one anyone would flirt with !!! I am always the fat bird whos a great laugh but god I fancy your mate ...

as I am in a relationship im not actually wanting to pull or date ... but to be flirted with and admired would be nice

my conclusion to this is that on here I am seen as a fat bird that if I flatter her and admire her she will be so flattered she will let me shag her..

tabitha xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Straight answer to your question is

Yes it does

The rights and wrongs of that conclusion can be debated forever.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"shame you have to voice you think so many women are ugly - "

And they all wonder why there are so few woman on here.......

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"Surely that's the desperate men's fault for flattering these ugly bids just so they can get a shag?

Yep... Totally agree

As long as everyone's happy thats all that matters

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men.

Perhaps we should ask Fab to put an ugly filter in the search engine to save time.. i know i'd use it LOL"

Yes or, bit ugly, ugly or very ugly.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

All about supply and demand

50 cocks to one pussy the balance goes in favour of the woman so she can act as if she is gods gift to men

Utter crap really but look on the cams some right mingers get told they are stunning so they will delude themselves

Including me! Well for a second or two

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"shame you have to voice you think so many women are ugly - "

The same as many women who list endless criteria of what they DONT want - i cant see the difference.. and i'm not saying its not wrong to be honest about what you want or what you find attractive (or by default unattractive)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Marvellous so any guy that messages me and tells me he finds me attractive is just lying because he's desperate?? Super, well well done you, you've definitely knocked some of the self esteem out of one happy fabber

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"I must admit I sort of agree with this ... on here I am constantly flattered and there is definitely no shortage of male admirers who boost my ego

as I am in a relationship im not actually wanting to pull or date ... but to be flirted with and admired would be nice

my conclusion to this is that on here I am seen as a fat bird that if I flatter her and admire her she will be so flattered she will let me shag her..

tabitha xx "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"shame you have to voice you think so many women are ugly -

just ignore them - im sure some gorgeous in your eyes ladies will pass you by with your lovely inner soul

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"Marvellous so any guy that messages me and tells me he finds me attractive is just lying because he's desperate?? Super, well well done you, you've definitely knocked some of the self esteem out of one happy fabber

No one was pointing an ugly banner in your direction - you self proclaimed it.. please dont take this thread personally.. its not pointed at you its a generalisation

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If people can't see the reality of it all and want to be deluded, their problem, let them get on with it

Enjoy Fab as you want to.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

" theres definitely some women on here that wouldn't get a shag from going on the pull down the pub "

you think so..?

there's someone out there for everyone..

probably just the same as there are some blokes with up their own arse attitudes who also may get a shag down the pub..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does being knocked back by ugly women you wouldn't look twice at in the pub make people bitter?

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"If people can't see the reality of it all and want to be deluded, their problem, let them get on with it

Enjoy Fab as you want to.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men.

Perhaps we should ask Fab to put an ugly filter in the search engine to save time.. i know i'd use it LOL"

Ugly is such a nasty word

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No one was pointing an ugly banner in your direction - you self proclaimed it.. please dont take this thread personally.. its not pointed at you its a generalisation

But you described someone who's just like me as ugly?? This is why I hate these threads no matter how much you cry 'its just generalisation ' your going to make someone feel a bit shit, why make someone else feel rubbish just because certain other people dont want to meet you?

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

" theres definitely some women on here that wouldn't get a shag from going on the pull down the pub

you think so..?

there's someone out there for everyone..

probably just the same as there are some blokes with up their own arse attitudes who also may get a shag down the pub..

i agree to a certain extent but we've already had one woman say she finds the pub and pull routine unsuccessful and sometimes a knock to her self esteem

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know what I look like and who I am being on here hasn't changed that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Listen yeah. Don't burst my bubble. Us ugly ones need loving too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men.

Perhaps we should ask Fab to put an ugly filter in the search engine to save time.. i know i'd use it LOL

Ugly is such a nasty word"

It is, who's to say what is and isn't "unfortunate looking" its different for everyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Does being knocked back by ugly women you wouldn't look twice at in the pub make people bitter?"

Yes, not much fun being knocked back by ugly men either.

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By *1968 OP Man over a year ago

Wokingham

"But you described someone who's just like me as ugly?? This is why I hate these threads no matter how much you cry 'its just generalisation ' your going to make someone feel a bit shit, why make someone else feel rubbish just because certain other people dont want to meet you?"

It doesnt matter what you say some people will take it personally. I didnt say there was a type that is ugly and maybe i should extend the comment i first made to Ugly or shy .. apologies if i offended you but again its not personal to anyone

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Im not up my own arse to think that, I may not be the most beautiful gal on fab but I get by, and nearly all my meets I see again, so I cant complain

I may be ugly to some, I may have my preferences but one thing im not desperate or the guys I meet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

If people are that fragile, maybe they shouldn't be here.

Just my thoughts.

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By *onny BonesMan over a year ago

a block away from heaven

Sorry to hear you take it personally. I doubt you blend into the background I have looked at your profile many times and hoped I would run into you in town!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

I don't think fab is any different to the real world tbh. I used to run pubs for a living and I'd say most women there can pull anyone they want if that's what they set out to do. Women call the shots when it comes to romance.

I don't think it's fab that creates 'high esteem' it's that those individuals respect themselves to only meet those they are attracted to. And that's the way it should be. That's NORMAL self esteem. Anyone who'd sleep with someone they don't fancy I'd say actually has low self esteem/self worth.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only you can allow your self esteem to be knocked,if you're on here enjoying yourself and having lots of attention why let one mans words upset you

Hes pissed off because even his perception of ugly is having more fun than he is,thats got to hurt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only you can allow your self esteem to be knocked,if you're on here enjoying yourself and having lots of attention why let one mans words upset you

Hes pissed off because even his perception of ugly is having more fun than he is,thats got to hurt

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people are that fragile, maybe they shouldn't be here.

Just my thoughts."

Your probably very right, I'm starting to think along the same lines..... Shame, I was really starting to believe that I wasn't as hideous as I've been told I am in the past!! On to the next!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

What is ugly?? Just because you don't find someone attractive it doesn't mean that someone else won't think they are gorgeous... Yes fab gives you an ego boost but it also can make you feel like shit... Us women still get knock backs, no shows and the 'sorry you're not my type' just like you men... It doesn't do wonders for your self esteem.. Nor does reading threads like these or the fat threads.. Just because we might get allot of attention... Its not always a positive one

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For someone that acknowledged that he was likely to get a load of abuse in his opening post, tge OP seems to be doing a lot of back peddling

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By *onny BonesMan over a year ago

a block away from heaven

I read the OP comments and expected much more of a harsh response! The truth is that some women use the ratio to their advantage much in the same way others will use their charm or looks. Were the shoe on the other foot I question if I would do the same? I'm far removed from being an oil painting and would struggle to get any attention from women stood next to some of the fellas on here. If there were fewer of you good looking guys I could have my way with all of these women!

Please be careful using the term ugly. There are many beautiful looking women on here with the ugliest of attitudes and outlooks on life and the lifestyle. I would hate a site filled with just these types!

Live and let live. If the lady with no pictures on her profile insists on you making contact only when you attach one; or the lady who has never been to a gym expects David Beckham in his Y fronts will come knocking simply pass on by. Concentrating on those who excite and entice you as opposed to others will be much more enjoyable for you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

actually i agree

loads of women who wouldn't get a second look in real life turn into Americas next top model in their head within a few weeks of being here, but its the shit men feed woman in order to get laid that makes them feel that way

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By *mmie2014Man over a year ago

London

"shame you have to voice you think so many women are ugly - "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

have to disagree with you there.. I frequent allot of clubs and play with people i wouldn't necessarily play with in my vanilla life but i have not got a low self esteem nor self worth.. Im there to have fun and i don't have to fancy someone to have fun... A one on one situation is different but a club meet or party Im too pre occupied to care if i think he's cute or not!

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By *mm_n_ZedCouple over a year ago

Fareham

"Yes I think you could be right there.

though just because a womans ugly doesn't mean she cant like attractive men and not want to meet other ugly men.

Perhaps we should ask Fab to put an ugly filter in the search engine to save time.. i know i'd use it LOL"

Everyone comes pre-fitted with ugly filters here on fab... they're called your eyes

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I must admit I sort of agree with this ... on here I am constantly flattered and there is definitely no shortage of male admirers who boost my ego

as I am in a relationship im not actually wanting to pull or date ... but to be flirted with and admired would be nice

my conclusion to this is that on here I am seen as a fat bird that if I flatter her and admire her she will be so flattered she will let me shag her..

tabitha xx "

Only by some! but you are a woman who has every right to be treated with respect ?

I bet if they knew more about your fun side the guys in the bar or outside would be too scared lol ?

Personality over looks for me !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's great if it works for you and I can imagine in that setting once in the heat of the moment it matters less. I was more on about the people who deliberately seek out people they think are 'ugly'(wtf) because they see them as an easy lay and like the OP, get shot down.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

O yes , think its called "pussy power" lol . Makes certain individuals feel very important

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By *ickawitchCouple over a year ago

Away with the fairies (Liverpool to you)

I think the best thing about this site is that it caters for everyone.

I am a firm believer that everyone will appeal to someone.

if you don't like the look of someone then move onto the next person and maybe they will suit you better.

I don't think labelling people as ugly will help anyone and the negativity will only cause conflict much better to simply try again with someone else

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *o new WinksMan over a year ago

BSE

The whole 'couldnt pull them down the pub' argument is not really applicable.

If the playing gield was level and said 'ugly' girl was allowed to talk to a guy and say

'I think you are hot. Did you see me wink at you ? Look, if you come home with me, you are defo getting 'the ride'. I love it up the arse and you can piss on me as well if you want.

Tell you what, if you have a good looking mate or 2 you can make me airtight if you want.'

Now, what do you think her chances of pulling now are ?

Yep...prob in the 90% zone. Blokes love things laid out for them.

The only issue is if he is seen by his mates with a munter. But there are ways round that too.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think the OP is bang on with what he's said.

I don't think anyone should take it personally, I think it's just how it goes on here. Many women on Fab get the attention and compliments that they would probably not receive out on the town, also goes obviously many guys on here would meet a woman that they wouldn't approach in a bar.

It's just how it is I think.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only you can allow your self esteem to be knocked,if you're on here enjoying yourself and having lots of attention why let one mans words upset you

Hes pissed off because even his perception of ugly is having more fun than he is,thats got to hurt

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By *omMLMan over a year ago

The Centre of the Universe

"I must admit I sort of agree with this ... on here I am constantly flattered and there is definitely no shortage of male admirers who boost my ego

as I am in a relationship im not actually wanting to pull or date ... but to be flirted with and admired would be nice

my conclusion to this is that on here I am seen as a fat bird that if I flatter her and admire her she will be so flattered she will let me shag her..

tabitha xx "

I flirt with almost every woman I come into contact with. Not for a shag it's a bit of harmless fun that makes the day seem that little bit brighter hopefully for both of you.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not suggesting high esteem is a wrong thing and actually think ‘good on you’ if you seek to get the best and especially if you achieve it.

Yes I know ugly to one person maybe beautiful to another.

Now I’m expecting a ton of abuse

Sometimes it does. I don't see why you should get abuse. It's a fact, no denying it. But it's all good.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"If people are that fragile, maybe they shouldn't be here.