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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

We don't plan too far ahead in arranging our meets for swinging/sex nowadays......because most so called "swingers" registered on FAB aren't swingers as we know them to be from our past experience.......but they assume the mantle and are happy enough getting their kicks from on line sources......Fab is considered a grind at best....and a joke at worst amongst people we've met since running Cupids many years ago......dogging around here is dire.......meeting by arrangement is a drawn out affair by people with more issues than enthusiasm......and lately the site is inundated with chancers, liars and deceit. When offering to share ones home/hospitality (and ones wife), the minimum respect expected is that the person before you is telling the truth.

Such an intimate experience between adults (that costs nothing in an otherwise expensive world ), is doomed to fail if at the start of the proceedings, one of the participants is lying..

In times gone by, when a person got sex by being untruthful such as exaggerating status and position, it was frowned on......terms such as procurement spring to mind. "Don't tell me lies so you can shag my wife." Thank you very fucking much.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have been lied to sooo many times - and caught them out! Respect and treat others how you wish to be treated yourself wouldn't go amiss!

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

some people will say anything to get their end away, it has always been that way... always will.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If i found it to be a grind or a joke i would leave i certainly wouldnt go on a long winded whine to so called wannabes whom i am berating

Lord Archibald Gimp

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

I think the constant who likes what, critique this profile and that one, are we attractive ? and the million of other 'what is the golden nugget' to successful meets, just layers on confusion on top of confusion that people try and cover every base.....

and it goes tits up.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Fine....that's what you would do or not do....but what I do or write is my concern ....ta

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"some people will say anything to get their end away, it has always been that way... always will.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Fine....that's what you would do or not do....but what I do or write is my concern ....ta *-

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"Fine....that's what you would do or not do....but what I do or write is my concern ....ta "

not sure if that is in reply to my post

if it is.... cool

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Nah....was replying to my critic "berating wannabees"

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I always have the greatest respect for couples who let me share their bodies and have sex with them. This is tinged with a shadow of jealousy as I wish it could be me being married and having sex with my wife and others. I also think a high level of emotional intelligence is needed for all concerned. Fab is but a tool in the toolbox....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I always have the greatest respect for couples who let me share their bodies and have sex with them. This is tinged with a shadow of jealousy as I wish it could be me being married and having sex with my wife and others. I also think a high level of emotional intelligence is needed for all concerned. Fab is but a tool in the toolbox...."

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I always have the greatest respect for couples who let me share their bodies and have sex with them. This is tinged with a shadow of jealousy as I wish it could be me being married and having sex with my wife and others. I also think a high level of emotional intelligence is needed for all concerned. Fab is but a tool in the toolbox.... "

Ooh! A 'thumbs up'! Wanna shag?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have to echo the post from Lovesmuffin - I would not remain on a site that I considered a grind and a joke and moan about it

Our Fab experience seems to be a world away from yours. Maybe look at what you are doing as you are the constant factor

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


" We don't plan too far ahead in arranging our meets for swinging/sex nowadays......because most so called "swingers" registered on FAB aren't swingers as we know them to be from our past experience.......but they assume the mantle and are happy enough getting their kicks from on line sources......Fab is considered a grind at best....and a joke at worst amongst people we've met since running Cupids many years ago......dogging around here is dire.......meeting by arrangement is a drawn out affair by people with more issues than enthusiasm......and lately the site is inundated with chancers, liars and deceit. When offering to share ones home/hospitality (and ones wife), the minimum respect expected is that the person before you is telling the truth.

Such an intimate experience between adults (that costs nothing in an otherwise expensive world ), is doomed to fail if at the start of the proceedings, one of the participants is lying..

In times gone by, when a person got sex by being untruthful such as exaggerating status and position, it was frowned on......terms such as procurement spring to mind. "Don't tell me lies so you can shag my wife." Thank you very fucking much. "

So you pick people to fuck your wife dependant on their "status and position"....and you preach about "procurement" too.

Methinks there's a few beams need removing from eyes.......

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I thought something else was behind your response......no offence was taken .....just found myself needing to stir the "action" around me! Fan the flames perhaps.....causing bollocks occurred to me as well but was not a priority.....enjoy using ALL the tools in your toolbox Mister.

xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is a fair analysis from the op .

If we relied on fab to arrange meets , we would spend more time playing email ping pong than shagging !

A huge proportion on fab are either so far up their own arse that they will never get to experience the joy of the lifestyle ( mainly couples claiming they want quality over quantity ) , or think it's a nice idea , but run scared when it comes to actually meeting .

We pretty much stopped arranging meets purely through the site a couple of months after joining , and since then , clubs , dogging and parties have fulfilled our desires .

Last minute meets sometimes work out , hotel meet or a visit , but the long winded bollocks is just a waste of time and effort . Well at least for us they are , as so many seem to want to make friends , socialise and generally use the site more like a social network site .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I always have the greatest respect for couples who let me share their bodies and have sex with them. This is tinged with a shadow of jealousy as I wish it could be me being married and having sex with my wife and others. I also think a high level of emotional intelligence is needed for all concerned. Fab is but a tool in the toolbox....

Ooh! A 'thumbs up'! Wanna shag?

"

Come to mamma

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

You missed my point completely...but can 't be bothered to explain it to you....would take forever for it to sink in....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You missed my point completely...but can 't be bothered to explain it to you....would take forever for it to sink in...."

Who did , me ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Nah the IRISH FELLA

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Nah the IRISH FELLA"

If you quote previous posts it will make it easier for people to understand who you are responding to

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You missed my point completely...but can 't be bothered to explain it to you....would take forever for it to sink in...."

If you click on the reply+quote button when you respond to someone people will know who you're replying too,makes it easier to read

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"some people will say anything to get their end away, it has always been that way... always will.

"

The problem is when the people messaging you obviously DON'T want to get their end away. I have no idea whats in the water round here at the mo but I've been contacted twice by men wanting to meet, but when I tried to get them to commit to a date and venue they lost interest.

I would understand cold feet or second thoughts, but when they messaged again and then lost interest again I realised there is a type of member for who there is actually no hope at all. Happy to move on and ignore them, but I don't understand their reluctance when they contacted me!

Sorry for the derailment OP but your post seemed a perfect opportunity for me to have a mini-rant about what I consider poor behaviour. I feel a lot better now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have to echo the post from Lovesmuffin - I would not remain on a site that I considered a grind and a joke and moan about it

Our Fab experience seems to be a world away from yours. Maybe look at what you are doing as you are the constant factor"

I'd like to echo this too.

If it's that bad, tat ta (would insert a waving face but haven't got one )

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You missed my point completely...but can 't be bothered to explain it to you....would take forever for it to sink in...."

Judgemental much?

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"Nah the IRISH FELLA"

I think not. Read your (tiresome) post again and you should be able to understand exactly what I said. You clearly allude to status etc being a consideration when deciding who is going to fuck your wife.

I'm happy to draw a diagram if it will help xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Am I doing something wrong here? I'met some nice people, I'm having fun, I sussout the idiots and tell them so. If I was not enjoying being here, I would leave. Problem?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Am I doing something wrong here? I'met some nice people, I'm having fun, I sussout the idiots and tell them so. If I was not enjoying being here, I would leave. Problem?"

ONLY PROBLEM IS I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

New at this....ta

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nah the IRISH FELLA

I think not. Read your (tiresome) post again and you should be able to understand exactly what I said. You clearly allude to status etc being a consideration when deciding who is going to fuck your wife.

I'm happy to draw a diagram if it will help xx"

Nah....keep trying...get an adult to point out where you have misunderstood...

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"Nah the IRISH FELLA

I think not. Read your (tiresome) post again and you should be able to understand exactly what I said. You clearly allude to status etc being a consideration when deciding who is going to fuck your wife.

I'm happy to draw a diagram if it will help xx

Nah....keep trying...get an adult to point out where you have misunderstood..."

I will - as long as they have the requisite status.....apparently that's of paramount importance .....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nah the IRISH FELLA

I think not. Read your (tiresome) post again and you should be able to understand exactly what I said. You clearly allude to status etc being a consideration when deciding who is going to fuck your wife.

I'm happy to draw a diagram if it will help xx

Nah....keep trying...get an adult to point out where you have misunderstood...

I will - as long as they have the requisite status.....apparently that's of paramount importance ....."

Last try.....status irrelevant....honesty a must.....phew!

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


"Nah the IRISH FELLA

I think not. Read your (tiresome) post again and you should be able to understand exactly what I said. You clearly allude to status etc being a consideration when deciding who is going to fuck your wife.

I'm happy to draw a diagram if it will help xx

Nah....keep trying...get an adult to point out where you have misunderstood...

I will - as long as they have the requisite status.....apparently that's of paramount importance .....

Last try.....status irrelevant....honesty a must.....phew! "

Ummm ok.... So what "lies" have you been told that have facilitated your wife getting fucked when she shouldn't have ??

This will be good .........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is a fair analysis from the op .

If we relied on fab to arrange meets , we would spend more time playing email ping pong than shagging !

A huge proportion on fab are either so far up their own arse that they will never get to experience the joy of the lifestyle ( mainly couples claiming they want quality over quantity ) , or think it's a nice idea , but run scared when it comes to actually meeting .

We pretty much stopped arranging meets purely through the site a couple of months after joining , and since then , clubs , dogging and parties have fulfilled our desires .

Last minute meets sometimes work out , hotel meet or a visit , but the long winded bollocks is just a waste of time and effort . Well at least for us they are , as so many seem to want to make friends , socialise and generally use the site more like a social network site .

"

As you know we rarely agree but I do agree with this. I've also almost stopped using FAB to arrange meets and stick to clubs now. It's just got far too difficult and time consuming.

I only really use it for the forum and associated banter these days and to see what events & socials are coming up.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"This is a fair analysis from the op .

If we relied on fab to arrange meets , we would spend more time playing email ping pong than shagging !

A huge proportion on fab are either so far up their own arse that they will never get to experience the joy of the lifestyle ( mainly couples claiming they want quality over quantity ) , or think it's a nice idea , but run scared when it comes to actually meeting .

We pretty much stopped arranging meets purely through the site a couple of months after joining , and since then , clubs , dogging and parties have fulfilled our desires .

Last minute meets sometimes work out , hotel meet or a visit , but the long winded bollocks is just a waste of time and effort . Well at least for us they are , as so many seem to want to make friends , socialise and generally use the site more like a social network site .

As you know we rarely agree but I do agree with this. I've also almost stopped using FAB to arrange meets and stick to clubs now. It's just got far too difficult and time consuming.

I only really use it for the forum and associated banter these days and to see what events & socials are coming up.

"

Ditto. Apart from a couple of regulars I just cannot be arsed struggling to arrange a meet with guys who don't want one. Clubs are my preferred method now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would suggest leave the site and go and do some real swinging. This site isn't the whole world of swinging sex

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wow, just wow

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I would suggest leave the site and go and do some real swinging. This site isn't the whole world of swinging sex "
And if you could be bothered to read our profile you would know that we know more about swinging than a young wench like you.Keep your advice for someone who needs it young lady.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Nah the IRISH FELLA

I think not. Read your (tiresome) post again and you should be able to understand exactly what I said. You clearly allude to status etc being a consideration when deciding who is going to fuck your wife.

I'm happy to draw a diagram if it will help xx

Nah....keep trying...get an adult to point out where you have misunderstood...

I will - as long as they have the requisite status.....apparently that's of paramount importance .....

Last try.....status irrelevant....honesty a must.....phew!

Ummm ok.... So what "lies" have you been told that have facilitated your wife getting fucked when she shouldn't have ??

This will be good ........."

Sorry....wouldn't want to spend much more time being an educator...learn from your own experiences mister....and by the way....we don't let many con men slip through the net.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not being funny as we haven't got a lot of experience with dealing with single men.

The ones we've met have been ones we've known when they had a couple profile before or we picked our self.

My question is what do they lie about & why would you want to know so much about their private life for NSA ?

I just think if we play with a single guy he is using us no more than we are using him as its just for a bit of naughty fun

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's Amazing how much these forum posts can add people to the "def Don't want to meet " list

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Not being funny as we haven't got a lot of experience with dealing with single men.

The ones we've met have been ones we've known when they had a couple profile before or we picked our self.

My question is what do they lie about & why would you want to know so much about their private life for NSA ?

Where to start?......We worked in clubs....Cupids in Mancs our first....and couldnt help feeling that there were so many wives at home week after week after week thinking their spouse was playing golf etc...whilst hubby was getting whatever he could in an club like ours, and how sad that we knew more about hubbys sexual preferences than the mother of his kids.

Hows that for a start?

I just think if we play with a single guy he is using us no more than we are using him as its just for a bit of naughty fun"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is this one of these threads where the OP just abuses everyone that disagrees?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Wow, just wow "

Thank you!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this one of these threads where the OP just abuses everyone that disagrees?

"

Looks that way

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By *iewMan  over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn


"Wow, just wow

Thank you! "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Wow, just wow

Thank you! "

I think you took that the wrong way, forgot the sarcasm card

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"I always have the greatest respect for couples who let me share their bodies and have sex with them. This is tinged with a shadow of jealousy as I wish it could be me being married and having sex with my wife and others. I also think a high level of emotional intelligence is needed for all concerned. Fab is but a tool in the toolbox...."

and some are bigger tools than others

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would suggest leave the site and go and do some real swinging. This site isn't the whole world of swinging sex And if you could be bothered to read our profile you would know that we know more about swinging than a young wench like you.Keep your advice for someone who needs it young lady."

You know about how you like to swing... Which doesn't appear to be bringing you much joy based on the tone of your post, profile and replies. A few of us less experienced 'wenches' are however having a great time doing things our own way, even if it may not tick the appropriate swinger boxes for you and we haven't ran clubs in the past.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can someone pass the popcorn

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By *rightonsteveMan  over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I always have the greatest respect for couples who let me share their bodies and have sex with them. This is tinged with a shadow of jealousy as I wish it could be me being married and having sex with my wife and others. I also think a high level of emotional intelligence is needed for all concerned. Fab is but a tool in the toolbox....

and some are bigger tools than others

"

I know I am

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

There is literally no quality I admire more in a person than whinging.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"There is literally no quality I admire more in a person than whinging. "

I'm taking notes!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

okay....

Problem is how good is your swingdar (I invented that!). For example if the first message you receive from someone is after midnight chances are they were a little squiffy when they sent it. (not always but rules and thumbs) and are unlikely to be squiffy when you message them back.

Secondly as a single guy, I have had messages post 10pm on a Saturday night saying "what are you doing now" well aside from being on fab, its Saturday night, I may have had a drink, it's 10pm..... My "meet today" has been up since 3pm and well, you choose now to message me. The travelling swingers dichotomy; wait for a response/message or go out with friends, entertain yourself etc. So a little warning about, "hey we may be interested in you, we are just waiting on a few others". then it's up to the recipient to wait or do regular Saturday night stuff. Unless they drink and drive.

Too far in advance "booked" meets usually fail. Most of the couples meets I have arranged fail (fair enough it takes two to tango but 3 to MMF, perhaps everyone concerned isn't "up to speed" yet and I get that).

In general the meets that tend to happen for me are the ones that are arranged the day before or earlier in the day. Usually with people I have chatted with before.

The couple dynamic is a little unnerving and I have walked out on meets where I felt that a partner wasn't 100% up for it.

What happens, happens. As a single guy who can't accommodate I am affected by the reputation of dishonest "married/partnered" men, but in reality there's nothing I can do about them.

All I can be is what I am and trust that these couples/singles that would like to meet me, see that.

I tend to think not what i can do to change people's attitude or behaviour, but what can I do to change my attitude/behaviour to get the most out of this lifestyle. So managing expectations, setting cutoff points for different times of night etc, all help me to shrug of the disappointment of the fantasists and "never going to happens" and ensure that when I do get a meet, it's a really, really good time for all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" We don't plan too far ahead in arranging our meets for swinging/sex nowadays......because most so called "swingers" registered on FAB aren't swingers as we know them to be from our past experience.......but they assume the mantle and are happy enough getting their kicks from on line sources......Fab is considered a grind at best....and a joke at worst amongst people we've met since running Cupids many years ago......dogging around here is dire.......meeting by arrangement is a drawn out affair by people with more issues than enthusiasm......and lately the site is inundated with chancers, liars and deceit. When offering to share ones home/hospitality (and ones wife), the minimum respect expected is that the person before you is telling the truth.

Such an intimate experience between adults (that costs nothing in an otherwise expensive world ), is doomed to fail if at the start of the proceedings, one of the participants is lying..

In times gone by, when a person got sex by being untruthful such as exaggerating status and position, it was frowned on......terms such as procurement spring to mind. "Don't tell me lies so you can shag my wife." Thank you very fucking much. "

Gosh, where's my violin?

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


" We don't plan too far ahead in arranging our meets for swinging/sex nowadays......because most so called "swingers" registered on FAB aren't swingers as we know them to be from our past experience.......but they assume the mantle and are happy enough getting their kicks from on line sources......Fab is considered a grind at best....and a joke at worst amongst people we've met since running Cupids many years ago......dogging around here is dire.......meeting by arrangement is a drawn out affair by people with more issues than enthusiasm......and lately the site is inundated with chancers, liars and deceit. When offering to share ones home/hospitality (and ones wife), the minimum respect expected is that the person before you is telling the truth.

Such an intimate experience between adults (that costs nothing in an otherwise expensive world ), is doomed to fail if at the start of the proceedings, one of the participants is lying..

In times gone by, when a person got sex by being untruthful such as exaggerating status and position, it was frowned on......terms such as procurement spring to mind. "Don't tell me lies so you can shag my wife." Thank you very fucking much.

Gosh, where's my violin?"

I'm sure I have a really tiny violin around here somewhere...

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

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