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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

why can't some people tell the truth,have just spent two weeks setting up our first meeting,only for the other guy to drop the line that he is bi,ok thats his right but why not put it on their profile page,we are really pissed of at this as we have spent time and effort building up trust and organising a night only to find out we have been lied to from the start,we did ask their sexuality from the start,how can you trust any one to come into your home who is a liar.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It happens,best thing is to put it behind you and move on.

No point in getting angry about it,plenty of yummy guys out there x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

yeah ok but its a trust thing if you be honest with a cple,surely the least you expect back is the same,not a pack of lies,i am sorry but if you can lies about your sexual persuasions what else can you lie about,surely honesty is the best policy, this has really put me off meetin anyone

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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It wouldn't put us off meeting anyone as not everyone is the same.

But I can understand you being pissed off for him wasting your time.

Sadly there are lots of people about who will say what they think you want to hear to get what they want.....I know it won't help the fact you have wasted your time, but I would block him now and forget about it, there are plenty more people out there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

did he lie though? Did he say he was straight, then said he was bi, or did he just lead you to believe he was straight?

When we first started playing, I was a little uncomfortable playing in the vicinity of bi guys. I'm happy to say now, that I'm now much more relaxed, and it really doesn't bother me at all.

If sexual orientation is important to you, put it on your profile. We did, but took I it off when I was ready to.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

waste of time yes! as i said two weeks of setting this up as it was our FIRST MEETING i feel really disappointed took a lot of courage to get on and do this,have tryed to do all the checks i.e. webcam, phone talking to both just hate being lied to at the last minute

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

yes one of the first questions asked was about sexuality and then the bombshell was dropped last night really a breach of trust

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By *averiMan  over a year ago

Swindon to bristol


"why can't some people tell the truth,have just spent two weeks setting up our first meeting,only for the other guy to drop the line that he is bi,ok thats his right but why not put it on their profile page,we are really pissed of at this as we have spent time and effort building up trust and organising a night only to find out we have been lied to from the start,we did ask their sexuality from the start,how can you trust any one to come into your home who is a liar. "

Its always a shame when you find out someone is not what you thought.

Your prefernces are your business no one has the right to question them. However, may I ask why you dont like bi blokes...is it because you think they are 'dirty' or because you think he might 'try it on'...? or maybe there is another reason.

Anyway...good luck and keep trying...the right one is out there somewhere!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

didn't say i didn't like bi guys but the fact of telling lies is what has annoyed me if someone can lie about their sexuality they can lie about anything

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i cant understand why he would have lied about being bi?? maybe he thinks he has to lie to get anywhere..... shot himself in the foot though! gives all guys a bad rep when he was gonna be one of the lucky ones and had the chance to do what most of us spend insane amounts of time putting effort in trying to get a meet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i cant understand why he would have lied about being bi?? maybe he thinks he has to lie to get anywhere..... shot himself in the foot though! gives all guys a bad rep when he was gonna be one of the lucky ones and had the chance to do what most of us spend insane amounts of time putting effort in trying to get a meet"

Many guys will put on their profile that theyre straight its the most common "lie" that guys will put on it, many think and are lead to believe that by being truthful and putting bi they will put alot of people off

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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When in fact it is probably them lying that puts them off the most

Maybe if people just threw caution to the wind and told the truth on their profiles, they would get the meets with the people who are looking for bi men

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Totally agree with you there Ruby

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By *averiMan  over a year ago

Swindon to bristol


"When in fact it is probably them lying that puts them off the most

Maybe if people just threw caution to the wind and told the truth on their profiles, they would get the meets with the people who are looking for bi men "

My profile is honest...if you lie about age or whatever its bound to come out sometime so whats the point? I do not have all the meets I want by a long shot but to some extent thats down to the number of single blokes on here. I have met a few females but NEVER a couple! I think its because I say I'm bi and the male half of a straight couple thinks I'll be after him! lol

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"When in fact it is probably them lying that puts them off the most

Maybe if people just threw caution to the wind and told the truth on their profiles, they would get the meets with the people who are looking for bi men "

Well I have no idea what this 'Gent' said to tyrone cpl, but I have straight on my profile because I am! I have never had penetration sex with another man and have no wish to either, however i did once let the man in a couple suck me at the same time as his wife was, and i have happily licked the lady's delicious pussy while her husband was shagging her, hence could say licked the side of his dick, don't see that as a problem had sex with women 1000's of times... so you tell me am I staight or bi? i know what I think!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree with Rugby not all men are the same but some will tell you anything they think you want hear to try to get a meet.

Try not to let it put you off,we have met some lovely guys of here and im sure you will too

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"I agree with Rugby not all men are the same but some will tell you anything they think you want hear to try to get a meet.

"

Sorry what excatly is it you want to hear????

lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's rather sad that on sites like this people have to lie. Isn't it about sexual freedom to state what you want?!!

I love anal play with submissive men: that's my thing at the moment and I'm specfic about what I want. Naturally how I like to play will not be for everybody, but those with similiar taste know what to expect.

That said, I've yet to see on the profile of anyone who's contacted me wording along the lines of "live to serve and worship big, black dominatrix, as her sex toy and slave" - lol...but they've found me!!

If only people could be honest with themselves I'm sure they'd have more fun!

Oh well!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

we get messages all the time from single straight guys, when we reply as we always try to, and say sorry we dont meet straight men they ofter say well im bi really.

we just block them, if they arent honest on there profile then we dont want to meet them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Iam afraid lying is very common on here, wether its age, size, and believe it or not cock size , Iam sure we all have told a few porkies on here ih order to 'enhance' our profiles.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The problem is when the lies are found out it makes the lier look stupid and would make most people walk away/block/ignor them then they post on the forums asking why people are so ignorant on here lol

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"When in fact it is probably them lying that puts them off the most

Maybe if people just threw caution to the wind and told the truth on their profiles, they would get the meets with the people who are looking for bi men

Well I have no idea what this 'Gent' said to tyrone cpl, but I have straight on my profile because I am! I have never had penetration sex with another man and have no wish to either, however i did once let the man in a couple suck me at the same time as his wife was, and i have happily licked the lady's delicious pussy while her husband was shagging her, hence could say licked the side of his dick, don't see that as a problem had sex with women 1000's of times... so you tell me am I staight or bi? i know what I think! "

you probably say straight, I would say if you have had any sexual contact with the same sex, have enoyed it and want to do it again, then I would be bi.

But, this subject always gets heated so I am saying no more on it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The problem is when the lies are found out it makes the lier look stupid and would make most people walk away/block/ignor them then they post on the forums asking why people are so ignorant on here lol"

Fair point, but lets all be honest, most have us have told a lie on here , whether its on our profile or when we have been chatting

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"The problem is when the lies are found out it makes the lier look stupid and would make most people walk away/block/ignor them then they post on the forums asking why people are so ignorant on here lol

Fair point, but lets all be honest, most have us have told a lie on here , whether its on our profile or when we have been chatting "

Errr no......why would anyone need to?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The problem is when the lies are found out it makes the lier look stupid and would make most people walk away/block/ignor them then they post on the forums asking why people are so ignorant on here lol

Fair point, but lets all be honest, most have us have told a lie on here , whether its on our profile or when we have been chatting

Errr no......why would anyone need to?"

Well from my experiences most have, maybe yours have been different. Even some of the people I have met have admitted they have lied about certain things, its part of life on here and in general

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Hmmm I wonder if all the people you have spoken to are now trying to figure out what lies you have told

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Have never had the need to lie actually.

I feel that bieng up front and stating exactly what im like and what im after...

Gets me further than lying about it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have never had the need to lie actually.

I feel that bieng up front and stating exactly what im like and what im after...

Gets me further than lying about it "

I agree, but I bet you have been lied to 100s of times on here, iam not saying its right just stating that its very common iam afraid

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Oh no doubt, I am under no illusions that some people will say what they think we want to hear to get what they want, and that includes in our perving plus doing the mod bit........but I meant more on a personal level of, I can't understand why people do it, as we wouldn't

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Phew! Have checked my profile and it checks out!

But I suspect we all have a little bi in us, and some are more comfortable with that than others.

Also, he might have been telling the truth; that is, he genuinely believed he was straight, but the thought of playing with the two of you awakened his true desires... In fact, you may well have enabled him to feel happier about who he is?

Hmm, how very psychoanalytic.

Olly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh yerrrrrrrrr

had lots of false bits of info...promises they never keep...dont turn up....ignore profile....etc etc...

par for the course really.

I just ignore and move quickly on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh no doubt, I am under no illusions that some people will say what they think we want to hear to get what they want, and that includes in our perving plus doing the mod bit........but I meant more on a personal level of, I can't understand why people do it, as we wouldn't "

Again I agree, its a mystery to me too. But being a mod you must see the amount of profiles on here that appear to be 'dubious' to say the least

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Now thats one that does annoy me, why do some people think you are lying if you say you are straight and really you have hidden desires ?

What is wrong with being straight and liking it?

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"Oh no doubt, I am under no illusions that some people will say what they think we want to hear to get what they want, and that includes in our perving plus doing the mod bit........but I meant more on a personal level of, I can't understand why people do it, as we wouldn't

Again I agree, its a mystery to me too. But being a mod you must see the amount of profiles on here that appear to be 'dubious' to say the least"

Dubious profiles are easily spot....people lying on them I can't, I would need a lie detector machine for that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now thats one that does annoy me, why do some people think you are lying if you say you are straight and really you have hidden desires ?

What is wrong with being straight and liking it? "

Thats true, putting bi-curious may help, as this can be very ambigious and you can not be accused of having a preference either way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh no doubt, I am under no illusions that some people will say what they think we want to hear to get what they want, and that includes in our perving plus doing the mod bit........but I meant more on a personal level of, I can't understand why people do it, as we wouldn't

Again I agree, its a mystery to me too. But being a mod you must see the amount of profiles on here that appear to be 'dubious' to say the least

Dubious profiles are easily spot....people lying on them I can't, I would need a lie detector machine for that "

lol fair enough, but a dubious profile is surely someone lying anyway, a fake pic is a lie

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"... so you tell me am I staight or bi? i know what I think!

you probably say straight, I would say if you have had any sexual contact with the same sex, have enoyed it and want to do it again, then I would be bi.

But, this subject always gets heated so I am saying no more on it"

I can understand that... but have to ask one question, are you saying it is possible for you to enjoy 'MFM' for the perfect example where the two men in question don't even touch each other? especially during DP?????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Iam afraid lying is very common on here, wether its age, size, and believe it or not cock size , Iam sure we all have told a few porkies on here ih order to 'enhance' our profiles."

No - I have not!!!

I'm looking for a specific playmate so state quite clearly what I want, my size, sexual orientation etc.

There is nothing ambiguous or enhanced about my profile - why should I? I know what I want. If I just wanted a quick fumble with any passing man with a hard on then I'd fudge it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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But I suspect we all have a little bi in us "

Disagree with you 100%!!

I am not confused by my sexuality at all and do not find other women sexually attractive.

I wish people would speak for themselves and stop looking for company!!

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By *eppersCouple  over a year ago

telford

We find guys who put they are straight on there profiles do so to get two bites of the so called swinging cherry, we have had hundreds of straight guys respond to our profile and when i tell them sorry we only meet bi guys they then say they are bi, still wont meet them because they do not have the courage of there convictions to put it on there profile, as i've said they want two bites of the cherry.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Always wondered why a bisexual man would want to meet a straight couple anyway, is it just a case of anything is better than nothing, maybe I’m over analysing things but surely if you’re bisexual you’d have more fun meeting a bisexual couple???

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"We find guys who put they are straight on there profiles do so to get two bites of the so called swinging cherry, we have had hundreds of straight guys respond to our profile and when i tell them sorry we only meet bi guys they then say they are bi, still wont meet them because they do not have the courage of there convictions to put it on there profile, as i've said they want two bites of the cherry."

well I ca only say that there is plenty of grey in between 'straight and bi' as my previous post says, as far as i'm concerned i'm straight......

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

THANKS EVERYONE FOR THEIR POSTS AND MESSAGES OF SUPPORT

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By *ustyWoman  over a year ago

inverclyde

well i was to meet a guy a while ago told me he was single his wife had passed away...... but........ his wife his alive but in a care home, why lie about that to begin with truth is always best policy

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"Always wondered why a bisexual man would want to meet a straight couple anyway, is it just a case of anything is better than nothing, maybe I’m over analysing things but surely if you’re bisexual you’d have more fun meeting a bisexual couple???"

I'm a bi male, and enjoy meeting straight couples for MFM action, just because I'm bi doesn't mean I'm going to grab every dudes todger!!!

That's the problem with "some" straight couple, they believe / think every bi dude is going to come on to them

Trust works both ways when I say to a couple I'm not going to touch the guy, some couples really find that difficult to believe!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We have got friends on LS who tell porkies about their ages They have both knocked 10yrs off their ages, and they wonder why they don't get repeat dates

Thing is, they both look ok, but they can't fool anyone into thinking they are as young as they claim

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We have got friends on LS who tell porkies about their ages They have both knocked 10yrs off their ages, and they wonder why they don't get repeat dates

Thing is, they both look ok, but they can't fool anyone into thinking they are as young as they claim "

I have a friend on SH who is 56, but his profile now says 47! The sad thing is when we first met I thought he'd had a hard life for his age but to knock nine years off is poinrless because you know it's not true!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

telling porkies always backfires in the end always better to be upfront

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

After contributing to this thread, the next time a lady says "Jack, that was great", do I say "thanks", or "don't believe ya"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

maybe he was straight?

is it possible that this is his first meet with a couple and upon thinking about it has decided he is curious enough to want more?

Hard to gauge as we only have one side of the story.

I'm unsure what the query is though?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Always wondered why a bisexual man would want to meet a straight couple anyway, is it just a case of anything is better than nothing, maybe I’m over analysing things but surely if you’re bisexual you’d have more fun meeting a bisexual couple???

I'm a bi male, and enjoy meeting straight couples for MFM action, just because I'm bi doesn't mean I'm going to grab every dudes todger!!!

That's the problem with "some" straight couple, they believe / think every bi dude is going to come on to them

Trust works both ways when I say to a couple I'm not going to touch the guy, some couples really find that difficult to believe!! "

Thats the big problem with most bi men, they assume to much and think all straight couples don't want to meet them because they are scared they will be jumped on by them, anyway, with you being a bisexual male, your saying that meeting bisexual couples doesn't offer you more that meeting a straight couple would? because thats what i asked we don't look to meet bisexual men simply because we feel we have less to offer them, and think they'd be better suited to meeting other bisexuals, absolutely nothing to do with being homophobic or scared you try it on with the other half, which sadly seems to be a great assumpion made by many bi males

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"... so you tell me am I staight or bi? i know what I think!

you probably say straight, I would say if you have had any sexual contact with the same sex, have enoyed it and want to do it again, then I would be bi.

But, this subject always gets heated so I am saying no more on it

I can understand that... but have to ask one question, are you saying it is possible for you to enjoy 'MFM' for the perfect example where the two men in question don't even touch each other? especially during DP?????

"

They don't touch each other sexually no....of course they might brush against each other when they are spoiling me , but they never touch each others cocks no. You are also assuming we have DP.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"why can't some people tell the truth,have just spent two weeks setting up our first meeting,only for the other guy to drop the line that he is bi,ok thats his right but why not put it on their profile page,we are really pissed of at this as we have spent time and effort building up trust and organising a night only to find out we have been lied to from the start,we did ask their sexuality from the start,how can you trust any one to come into your home who is a liar. "

no one is totally truthful on here or we would all put face pictures up, correct ages, body shape and full names.

If you did not ask then he didn't lie he only misrepresented his sexuality.

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By *atureFem4FunWoman  over a year ago

Petts Wood


"why can't some people tell the truth,have just spent two weeks setting up our first meeting,only for the other guy to drop the line that he is bi,ok thats his right but why not put it on their profile page,we are really pissed of at this as we have spent time and effort building up trust and organising a night only to find out we have been lied to from the start,we did ask their sexuality from the start,how can you trust any one to come into your home who is a liar.

no one is totally truthful on here or we would all put face pictures up, correct ages, body shape and full names.

If you did not ask then he didn't lie he only misrepresented his sexuality."

So why does putting up a face pic for all to see make you more truthful?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i put straight on my profile but if you read through it sais I am hetro-flexible ( another word for bi ) the reason i dont put bi is i dont want to be bombarded by men as thats not what i am looking for, yes you can block all men but i have some friends that are single men. I am not lying as i expect any person I meet to read through my profile and if they dont understand i always give people a chance to ask me anything and i have only been asked about once. for those who want to know hetro-flexible is a word to describe many bi men or women. the opposite sex is what you find attractive, have relationships with etc however the same sex can be just abit of fun. i enjoy straight threeways and would only do anything with the guy if they asked and i felt comfortable enough with that person hope that explains some people's reasons

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

sorry that looks jumbled together, everywher i made gap for mini paragraphs didnt show

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By *lurmMan  over a year ago

Swansea-ish

Hetero-Flexible, never heard it but I like the term....I'm not, but I like the word (s)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i only hurd it the other week myself

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"yeah ok but its a trust thing if you be honest with a cple,surely the least you expect back is the same,not a pack of lies,i am sorry but if you can lies about your sexual persuasions what else can you lie about,surely honesty is the best policy, this has really put me off meetin anyone "

Iam sorry to tell you this but there are lots of couples like that on here.But also some genuine once.So forget it and try again.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Iam afraid lying is very common on here, wether its age, size, and believe it or not cock size , Iam sure we all have told a few porkies on here ih order to 'enhance' our profiles.

No - I have not!!!

I'm looking for a specific playmate so state quite clearly what I want, my size, sexual orientation etc.

There is nothing ambiguous or enhanced about my profile - why should I? I know what I want. If I just wanted a quick fumble with any passing man with a hard on then I'd fudge it! "

My Profile is me in everyway why should i lei iam proud to get this far dont see the point.To be a good lair u have to have a great Memory.And mine is shit

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By *ensual temptressWoman  over a year ago

Southampton

im sorry had to smile at this post ... i just WISH a guy admiting he was bi was the biggest fib ive been told on here lol !!!

i was messaged while back by single guy and he provided his face pic which wasnt on profile. i knew i had seen it before but just didnt know where ...

after checking my msn whist talking to this guy ,who had told me completly he single ,never had kids ..he actually laughed and said well none that i know of !! plus vaerious other conversation and info .i found exactly where i knew him from as i had spoken at length on msn short while back . funny enough the conversation on msn was vastly different . hes married for good number of years but plays behind her back as had high powered job and too tired to bother with him!! plus all about his family and about the much youger women he was seeing and the benifits of having such a young thing lol!! even when i copied and pasted the conversation from msn he denied it !! saying i was mistaken lmao !! i told him to stop treating me like i was some daft clueless bimbo as was too old and wise to be taken in but such drival .he then admited it WAS him and his parting words were ohh well was worth a try lol !!

end of day ppl are going to lie because they just can !!! but not everyone will! brush it off and move on now just that lil bit wiser and learn from it .

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By *umourCouple  over a year ago

Rushden


"didn't say i didn't like bi guys but the fact of telling lies is what has annoyed me if someone can lie about their sexuality they can lie about anything"

If you don't mind if a guy is Bi or not, why did you ask him the question? I think too much is being made out of this! I reckon loads have something on their profile that is perhaps not the whole truth and whether they like it or not, it is telling lies! Of course, that excludes everyone who has posted here

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By *entadreadMan  over a year ago

Essex

The appeal of this site is that it caters for all, if you are bi, there is surely couples / singles that will be interested in you, same if you are straight.

Bending the truth just to get a meet / laid is utter desperation.

My next topic is "interests". Why list interests that you are not interested in? You get caught out.

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By *entadreadMan  over a year ago

Essex

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The appeal of this site is that it caters for all, if you are bi, there is surely couples / singles that will be interested in you, same if you are straight.

Bending the truth just to get a meet / laid is utter desperation.

My next topic is "interests". Why list interests that you are not interested in? You get caught out. "

...and therein is my point!!

ALL tastes are catered for here so why contact people who are not interested in you or you them?!!

I enjoy my meets because both of us are getting what we want: to deny yourself I truly don't get it!!

On another site a "straight" man contacted me. When I asked why he had listed "same sex" as an interest he said I asked too many questions and blocked me lol!

As the French say: c'est la vie!

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By *ngieandMrManCouple  over a year ago

hereford

I can’t help but wonder what the OP is here for? Casual recreational sex or a ‘perfect’ friend? And what is a perfect friend, one that always tells the truth… ‘Your new hair cut looks shit’ or ‘no there is nothing wrong with the new dress you really are a shapeless dollop’, who needs that?

The other thing that is open to question is the term bisexual as typically in swinging it doesn’t mean bisexual at all, its an adopted term that typically means a guy who likes a bit of dick or a woman who likes a bit of tit and or pussy.

It could be that the guy in question has some bisexual interest but hasn’t come to terms with it yet. If you have been speaking for some time and building a trusting relationship MAYBE he thought he could trust you with his secret? And even if he does at some point say ‘I am bisexual’ or ‘I think I might like to try it’ doesn’t mean he wants to bugger your hubby.

I wonder what I might have to say to you about my sexuality for it to be true? Am I bisexual? By the true definition of the term the answer is NO, so should I say I’m straight? Our profile says we are both bisexual but do I fancy men? NO, never have and I don’t expect I ever will. Have I had sexual encounters with men in swinging? YES, and I will continue to do so. What about my misses? Same thing, she doesn’t in the true sense ‘fancy’ women, has she had sexual encounters with other women YES and thoroughly enjoyed it and will no doubt do it again.

If you are going to ask a question it’s really important I think to ask the right question. If someone doesn’t tell you something then maybe its just because they think its irrelevant to you. If someone was to ask me if I’m straight I could say with 100% honesty ‘Yes’ equally, if asked ‘Are you bisexual’ then the answer is much more complicated because to a straight couple the answer is truthfully ‘no’ as far as they are concerned but if a bi-curious, a bisexual or gay person asks then the answer is ‘I’m as bisexual as the person I am with at the time’.

I really like the phrase hetero-flexible because I think that encompasses most bi’s in the swinging hobby, they are bi-SEX-ual, that is totally straight until the clothes come of and they are with people of mutual feelings regarding same sex sex.

Once again to the OP… I truly feel for you, there is nothing worse than you first encounter turning to shit for whatever reason, it happens to most of us and it will happen again and again, disappointment after disappointment and then more of the same. With time and experience you get better at asking the RIGHT questions for YOU. You could as no doubt 1000’s of others do give up now at the first fault. Or you could stick at it as some of us have and learn to work it and then you’ll end up having a fantastic time and make some fantastic friends.

In the future you might read a thread in a forum and it’ll look just like this one, only you’ll laugh and say to yourself, ‘That happened to us when we first started, I’ll drop them a line with some tips’.

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By *eprobatepairCouple  over a year ago

london


"I can’t help but wonder what the OP is here for? Casual recreational sex or a ‘perfect’ friend? And what is a perfect friend, one that always tells the truth… ‘Your new hair cut looks shit’ or ‘no there is nothing wrong with the new dress you really are a shapeless dollop’, who needs that?

The other thing that is open to question is the term bisexual as typically in swinging it doesn’t mean bisexual at all, its an adopted term that typically means a guy who likes a bit of dick or a woman who likes a bit of tit and or pussy.

It could be that the guy in question has some bisexual interest but hasn’t come to terms with it yet. If you have been speaking for some time and building a trusting relationship MAYBE he thought he could trust you with his secret? And even if he does at some point say ‘I am bisexual’ or ‘I think I might like to try it’ doesn’t mean he wants to bugger your hubby.

I wonder what I might have to say to you about my sexuality for it to be true? Am I bisexual? By the true definition of the term the answer is NO, so should I say I’m straight? Our profile says we are both bisexual but do I fancy men? NO, never have and I don’t expect I ever will. Have I had sexual encounters with men in swinging? YES, and I will continue to do so. What about my misses? Same thing, she doesn’t in the true sense ‘fancy’ women, has she had sexual encounters with other women YES and thoroughly enjoyed it and will no doubt do it again.

If you are going to ask a question it’s really important I think to ask the right question. If someone doesn’t tell you something then maybe its just because they think its irrelevant to you. If someone was to ask me if I’m straight I could say with 100% honesty ‘Yes’ equally, if asked ‘Are you bisexual’ then the answer is much more complicated because to a straight couple the answer is truthfully ‘no’ as far as they are concerned but if a bi-curious, a bisexual or gay person asks then the answer is ‘I’m as bisexual as the person I am with at the time’.

I really like the phrase hetero-flexible because I think that encompasses most bi’s in the swinging hobby, they are bi-SEX-ual, that is totally straight until the clothes come of and they are with people of mutual feelings regarding same sex sex.

Once again to the OP… I truly feel for you, there is nothing worse than you first encounter turning to shit for whatever reason, it happens to most of us and it will happen again and again, disappointment after disappointment and then more of the same. With time and experience you get better at asking the RIGHT questions for YOU. You could as no doubt 1000’s of others do give up now at the first fault. Or you could stick at it as some of us have and learn to work it and then you’ll end up having a fantastic time and make some fantastic friends.

In the future you might read a thread in a forum and it’ll look just like this one, only you’ll laugh and say to yourself, ‘That happened to us when we first started, I’ll drop them a line with some tips’.

"

What an excellent, well balanced post. Hear hear.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Forgive me for being straight but lots of people keep saying I don’t fancy men, or I don’t fancy the same sex, but happy to play with them, this might sound silly but does that mean you will play with anyone? and without meaning to offend anyone, that’s certainly how it comes across, when people say I’ll never fancy or be attracted to someone but will happily play with them, on another note, that statement is bound to make a genuine bisexual/gay person cringe.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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*nods* I would have to fancy someone to play with them.

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"...I can understand that... but have to ask one question, are you saying it is possible for you to enjoy 'MFM' for the perfect example where the two men in question don't even touch each other? especially during DP?????

They don't touch each other sexually no....of course they might brush against each other when they are spoiling me , but they never touch each others cocks no. You are also assuming we have DP.

"

Yes I'm sorry i'm making huge assumptions, I'm just trying to show the many shades of grey between the black of 'straight' and the white of 'bi-sexual' and to be honest normally i'll only accidentally brush against the other man. the two incidents i mentioned have only happened once and then at different occasions so I would not say it was a regular thing. Personally i much prefer FMF but then I don't get that lucky very often!

certainly not on this site!

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"...I can understand that... but have to ask one question, are you saying it is possible for you to enjoy 'MFM' for the perfect example where the two men in question don't even touch each other? especially during DP?????

They don't touch each other sexually no....of course they might brush against each other when they are spoiling me , but they never touch each others cocks no. You are also assuming we have DP.

Yes I'm sorry i'm making huge assumptions, I'm just trying to show the many shades of grey between the black of 'straight' and the white of 'bi-sexual' and to be honest normally i'll only accidentally brush against the other man. the two incidents i mentioned have only happened once and then at different occasions so I would not say it was a regular thing. Personally i much prefer FMF but then I don't get that lucky very often!

certainly not on this site! "

Think you’re just over analysing things, there’s nothing grey about what you mentioned in you’re posts, two straight men DP,ing a women or a woman sucking said two cocks at once will always create inevitable contact, but it’s done solely for the pleasure of the woman, and should never be a grey area, well maybe if you’re a school kid or homophobe it might make them bisexual, however if the two men started sucking each other off afterwards that’s a whole different story

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"...I can understand that... but have to ask one question, are you saying it is possible for you to enjoy 'MFM' for the perfect example where the two men in question don't even touch each other? especially during DP?????

They don't touch each other sexually no....of course they might brush against each other when they are spoiling me , but they never touch each others cocks no. You are also assuming we have DP.

Yes I'm sorry i'm making huge assumptions, I'm just trying to show the many shades of grey between the black of 'straight' and the white of 'bi-sexual' and to be honest normally i'll only accidentally brush against the other man. the two incidents i mentioned have only happened once and then at different occasions so I would not say it was a regular thing. Personally i much prefer FMF but then I don't get that lucky very often!

certainly not on this site! "

Thats just it, for me there isn't any shades of grey in this subject, you either are or you are not.

I am quiet happy to say I am bi if I play with women plus men, it wouldn't bother me, as I am quite happy saying I am straight as I only like playing with men.

There is no shame in wanting to play with both sex's in fact I would say it was greedy, just like I am with cocks but I can't for the life of me understand why people say they are not bi when they are if they are enjoying play with both sex's.

As to our MFM's they are straight ones, but the ones we have had the men have been comfortable enough around each other to have very enjoyable meets. I think if they were not, then the meet would be over pretty fast, but there is no playing between the men.

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"I can't for the life of me understand why people say they are not bi when they are"

We also have difficulty understanding why “some” men state their straight, when clearly they're looking for bi action, especially when they have no identifiable picture showing!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"...I can understand that... but have to ask one question, are you saying it is possible for you to enjoy 'MFM' for the perfect example where the two men in question don't even touch each other? especially during DP?????

They don't touch each other sexually no....of course they might brush against each other when they are spoiling me , but they never touch each others cocks no. You are also assuming we have DP.

Yes I'm sorry i'm making huge assumptions, I'm just trying to show the many shades of grey between the black of 'straight' and the white of 'bi-sexual' and to be honest normally i'll only accidentally brush against the other man. the two incidents i mentioned have only happened once and then at different occasions so I would not say it was a regular thing. Personally i much prefer FMF but then I don't get that lucky very often!

certainly not on this site!

Thats just it, for me there isn't any shades of grey in this subject, you either are or you are not.

I am quiet happy to say I am bi if I play with women plus men, it wouldn't bother me, as I am quite happy saying I am straight as I only like playing with men.

There is no shame in wanting to play with both sex's in fact I would say it was greedy, just like I am with cocks but I can't for the life of me understand why people say they are not bi when they are if they are enjoying play with both sex's."

My thought exactly Rugby!

Some people live in denial I guess, whilst others seem hell bent in convincing others that everybody is bi to a degree.

No ambiguity on my part either: 100% straight!

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By *ngieandMrManCouple  over a year ago

hereford

What the hell has ‘identifiable picture showing’ got do with anything? Screwed, bored or countersunk, straight, bisexual, bi-curious, gay whatever, ever heard of not wanting to be recognised on a swing site by the general public!

Personally I’ve never wanted to covert anyone to anything. But if anyone cares to look up the true definition of ‘bisexual’ it certainly doesn’t fit us correctly.

As a couple ‘fancying’ someone else is based on availability and mutual desire and so to that end I personally do not sexually fancy anyone who doesn’t have a mutual sexual fancy for me. Therefore a straight guy will NEVER be of any sexual interest to me.

Swinging for us on a relationship footing is about purely platonic friendship with maybe some recreational sex. Because the sex part is just recreational sex such terms as heterosexual, bisexual or gay do not come into the equation.

There are lots of terms used in the swinging hobby that are used very loosely. If I were single and not in the swinging hobby then I would say I’m 100% heterosexual. I would not have sex with a male, I would not seek to form a loving live together relationship with a male. I would only seek to form a relationship with a female. The bisexual angle for me is limited to recreational sex within this hobby. There is nothing complicated about that really, just accept the fact that that is me and no amount of reading betweens the lines or suggestions of denial will change that.

Some may think other words are more fitting, such us 'hetero-flexible'or 'same sex playful' none of this matters it doesn’t change anything. Mean time, on the basic profile details there are three options, straight, bi-curious, bisexual and as such ‘bisexual’ is the closest fitting

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"

Think you’re just over analysing things, there’s nothing grey about what you mentioned in you’re posts, two straight men DP,ing a women or a woman sucking said two cocks at once will always create inevitable contact, but it’s done solely for the pleasure of the woman, and should never be a grey area, well maybe if you’re a school kid or homophobe it might make them bisexual, however if the two men started sucking each other off afterwards that’s a whole different story "

Exactly!

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"What the hell has ‘identifiable picture showing’ got do with anything? "

Calm down, calm down, it's only a debate

A great many profiles have no photo, yet the male claims to be “straight” why post their straight when clearly their not? No one can identify the individual, as mentioned they have no profile pic showing!!

Even if they had a picture of their torso / cock / chest etc., etc., they still cannot be identified, yet they state their straight, that's what the hell having no identifiable pic has to so with it!

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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You have confused the hell out of me too now BOGOF.

What has having a pic on your profile or not as the case may be got to do with you being straight or bi?

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By *onnoisseur100Man  over a year ago

Woking-ish


"What the hell has ‘identifiable picture showing’ got do with anything?

Calm down, calm down, it's only a debate

A great many profiles have no photo, yet the male claims to be “straight” why post their straight when clearly their not? No one can identify the individual, as mentioned they have no profile pic showing!!

Even if they had a picture of their torso / cock / chest etc., etc., they still cannot be identified, yet they state their straight, that's what the hell having no identifiable pic has to so with it! "

Now I'm totally confused!!!!!!

what has picture got to do with anything, If a person says the're straight or bi then thats that. No point in lying about it, subtle definitions can be discussed after initial contact, can't they?

The important thing is that people get to meet and have fun..... or am i missing the whole point.

Lets have fun.....

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"You have confused the hell out of me too now BOGOF.

What has having a pic on your profile or not as the case may be got to do with you being straight or bi?"

If someone posts a picture which identifies them either face, tattoos etc., etc., I can understand them stating their straight, however, when no picture is posted on a profile I cannot understand someone stating their straight when clearly their not, no picture = they remain anonymous, so be honest.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

Still none the wiser sorry , but I am having a blonde day me thinks

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By *i 1 Get 1 FreeCouple (MM)  over a year ago

birmingham


"Still none the wiser sorry , but I am having a blonde day me thinks "

I know what I'm trying to say just not qualified like others in getting my point across

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm,,,,

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is why we always ask for a cock/bum pic of a guy. Any visible burn marks and we know that at some stage his pants have been on fire, thus proving him to be untruthful at times. Honest guv!

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By *acreadCouple  over a year ago

central scotland

Mac is straight and Ren is bi but we would still have no problem meeting a cpl where the guy is bi just as long as he understands and respects the situation, and I would think most cpls on fab are of the same frame of mind.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wheres that post i put on about the M and N couple?

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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O o O oo

Obviously gone, just "thinking " the people you are outing are not on the site anymore isn't enough for you to post their details.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can’t help but wonder what the OP is here for? Casual recreational sex or a ‘perfect’ friend? And what is a perfect friend, one that always tells the truth… ‘Your new hair cut looks shit’ or ‘no there is nothing wrong with the new dress you really are a shapeless dollop’, who needs that?

The other thing that is open to question is the term bisexual as typically in swinging it doesn’t mean bisexual at all, its an adopted term that typically means a guy who likes a bit of dick or a woman who likes a bit of tit and or pussy.

It could be that the guy in question has some bisexual interest but hasn’t come to terms with it yet. If you have been speaking for some time and building a trusting relationship MAYBE he thought he could trust you with his secret? And even if he does at some point say ‘I am bisexual’ or ‘I think I might like to try it’ doesn’t mean he wants to bugger your hubby.

I wonder what I might have to say to you about my sexuality for it to be true? Am I bisexual? By the true definition of the term the answer is NO, so should I say I’m straight? Our profile says we are both bisexual but do I fancy men? NO, never have and I don’t expect I ever will. Have I had sexual encounters with men in swinging? YES, and I will continue to do so. What about my misses? Same thing, she doesn’t in the true sense ‘fancy’ women, has she had sexual encounters with other women YES and thoroughly enjoyed it and will no doubt do it again.

If you are going to ask a question it’s really important I think to ask the right question. If someone doesn’t tell you something then maybe its just because they think its irrelevant to you. If someone was to ask me if I’m straight I could say with 100% honesty ‘Yes’ equally, if asked ‘Are you bisexual’ then the answer is much more complicated because to a straight couple the answer is truthfully ‘no’ as far as they are concerned but if a bi-curious, a bisexual or gay person asks then the answer is ‘I’m as bisexual as the person I am with at the time’.

I really like the phrase hetero-flexible because I think that encompasses most bi’s in the swinging hobby, they are bi-SEX-ual, that is totally straight until the clothes come of and they are with people of mutual feelings regarding same sex sex.

Once again to the OP… I truly feel for you, there is nothing worse than you first encounter turning to shit for whatever reason, it happens to most of us and it will happen again and again, disappointment after disappointment and then more of the same. With time and experience you get better at asking the RIGHT questions for YOU. You could as no doubt 1000’s of others do give up now at the first fault. Or you could stick at it as some of us have and learn to work it and then you’ll end up having a fantastic time and make some fantastic friends.

In the future you might read a thread in a forum and it’ll look just like this one, only you’ll laugh and say to yourself, ‘That happened to us when we first started, I’ll drop them a line with some tips’.

"

I classify myself as "bi playful"...I do not seek out women to meet one on one, I do not see a woman in the street and say phwoooaarr I would love to have her...but in a fmf situation I do enjoy occasionally playing with a woman. I don't think I ever could meet a woman one on one...I had considered it once but in the end realised that it was just not for me...so I do understand what you are saying in your post...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What the hell has ‘identifiable picture showing’ got do with anything? Screwed, bored or countersunk, straight, bisexual, bi-curious, gay whatever, ever heard of not wanting to be recognised on a swing site by the general public!

Personally I’ve never wanted to covert anyone to anything. But if anyone cares to look up the true definition of ‘bisexual’ it certainly doesn’t fit us correctly.

As a couple ‘fancying’ someone else is based on availability and mutual desire and so to that end I personally do not sexually fancy anyone who doesn’t have a mutual sexual fancy for me. Therefore a straight guy will NEVER be of any sexual interest to me.

Swinging for us on a relationship footing is about purely platonic friendship with maybe some recreational sex. Because the sex part is just recreational sex such terms as heterosexual, bisexual or gay do not come into the equation.

There are lots of terms used in the swinging hobby that are used very loosely. If I were single and not in the swinging hobby then I would say I’m 100% heterosexual. I would not have sex with a male, I would not seek to form a loving live together relationship with a male. I would only seek to form a relationship with a female. The bisexual angle for me is limited to recreational sex within this hobby. There is nothing complicated about that really, just accept the fact that that is me and no amount of reading betweens the lines or suggestions of denial will change that.

Some may think other words are more fitting, such us 'hetero-flexible'or 'same sex playful' none of this matters it doesn’t change anything. Mean time, on the basic profile details there are three options, straight, bi-curious, bisexual and as such ‘bisexual’ is the closest fitting

"

Do you honestly believe all that, I’m female, I’m also 100% straight, but I can certainly admit to looking at other women and think, wow she’s very attractive, Cheryl Cole, Megan Fox just two as an example, but that’s as far as it goes, so I’m quite stumped as to why someone who is straight can see attractiveness in people of the same sex but people with bi tendencies cannot, either way, if I was in a room with either of those two, the moment I started performing sexual acts on them, would them make me sexually attracted to them, unless of course I’m in denial that is

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By *ayc_BigballsMan  over a year ago

Derby

what i find most condescending about some of the couples on here, are when they say no bi guys, yet have tvs/cds in their friend list. now obviously they could just be friends...but....

anyway as someone who is bi-curious but prefers women, id class myself as straight but openminded.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what i find most condescending about some of the couples on here, are when they say no bi guys, yet have tvs/cds in their friend list. now obviously they could just be friends...but....

anyway as someone who is bi-curious but prefers women, id class myself as straight but openminded."

You just said it, they could just be friends and some people accept random invites.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"what i find most condescending about some of the couples on here, are when they say no bi guys, yet have tvs/cds in their friend list. now obviously they could just be friends...but....

anyway as someone who is bi-curious but prefers women, id class myself as straight but openminded."

Sorry for pointing out the obvious, but not all TV’s and CD’s are bisexual.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yeah hate liars myself always full of shit!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"why can't some people tell the truth,have just spent two weeks setting up our first meeting,only for the other guy to drop the line that he is bi,ok thats his right but why not put it on their profile page,we are really pissed of at this as we have spent time and effort building up trust and organising a night only to find out we have been lied to from the start,we did ask their sexuality from the start,how can you trust any one to come into your home who is a liar.

no one is totally truthful on here or we would all put face pictures up, correct ages, body shape and full names.

If you did not ask then he didn't lie he only misrepresented his sexuality.

So why does putting up a face pic for all to see make you more truthful?"

It doesn't and i never said it did but it is more open and honest about your self than not doing but that might be a bit above your comprehension.

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By *atureFem4FunWoman  over a year ago

Petts Wood


"why can't some people tell the truth,have just spent two weeks setting up our first meeting,only for the other guy to drop the line that he is bi,ok thats his right but why not put it on their profile page,we are really pissed of at this as we have spent time and effort building up trust and organising a night only to find out we have been lied to from the start,we did ask their sexuality from the start,how can you trust any one to come into your home who is a liar.

no one is totally truthful on here or we would all put face pictures up, correct ages, body shape and full names.

If you did not ask then he didn't lie he only misrepresented his sexuality.

So why does putting up a face pic for all to see make you more truthful?

It doesn't and i never said it did but it is more open and honest about your self than not doing but that might be a bit above your comprehension. "

Says the man with an avatar of his arse

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Says the woman with an avatar of her arse lol

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