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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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We have noticed a lot of comments that people wont consider anyone who is bi in their profile, or is bi but pretending to be straight.
We are not bi or been affected by this but just wondered why are so many bi-phobic. Surely bi's are the perfect answer to anyone looking for fun as they can swing either way, and what is wrong with a bi male for instance playing straight ?
Does this make any sense? Have i explained iwell enough? |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want?? |
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over a year ago
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What I've found is that people state it as a preference even though they find it horrific that a man might have fucked another and then wants to fuck the lady half of the couple.
Which I don't understand because surely it's exactly the same as him banging a woman up the arse. But that's fine with them.
No wonder some say they're straight on here. Some people think bi guys are the devil. |
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"We have noticed a lot of comments that people wont consider anyone who is bi in their profile, or is bi but pretending to be straight.
We are not bi or been affected by this but just wondered why are so many bi-phobic. Surely bi's are the perfect answer to anyone looking for fun as they can swing either way, and what is wrong with a bi male for instance playing straight ?
Does this make any sense? Have i explained iwell enough? "
They're worried it's catching, I can play straight so for a while pretended I was straight. Then I thought, fuck it I'm not, I'd been in touch with too many cocks to be curious. Personally I think it makes it a lot easier when it comes to group situations, no blokes worrying if they accidentally touch another man's cock. |
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want?? "
Have I read your profile right x you don't want any action x so what's the issue? |
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want?? "
It seems an issue with you though doesn't it, hence the thread..
People should be able to pick and choose within legal reasons who they fuck..
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
Have I read your profile right x you don't want any action x so what's the issue?"
Because we are interested why there is what appears such an attitude. Just because we dont play doesnt preclude us from being interested or allow us to pose a question does it? |
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
Have I read your profile right x you don't want any action x so what's the issue?"
By Jove I think you're right |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
solihull |
"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
It seems an issue with you though doesn't it, hence the thread..
People should be able to pick and choose within legal reasons who they fuck..
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Blimey all we were looking for was an explanation. We have no issue, no experience, but were enquiring why some do have an issue?
It seems some are a bit touchy about it. |
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
Have I read your profile right x you don't want any action x so what's the issue?
Because we are interested why there is what appears such an attitude. Just because we dont play doesnt preclude us from being interested or allow us to pose a question does it? "
was much as you are NOT a swapping couple sone people do NOT want to play with bi couples.
You are straight would you play with a gay couple? |
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
It seems an issue with you though doesn't it, hence the thread..
People should be able to pick and choose within legal reasons who they fuck..
Blimey all we were looking for was an explanation. We have no issue, no experience, but were enquiring why some do have an issue?
It seems some are a bit touchy about it. "
Dont think it needs an explanation its just nature taking its course |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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This again? Let us try ....
Straight men are often homophobic after years of conditioning to believe homosexuality is wrong; it was not that long ago it was illegal.
Gay and bi men present a statistically far greater risk of HIV than hetro men. There are enough "straight" men to meet the needs of those who are bothered by this.
Etc etc.
Disclaimer: we may or may not agree with the position stated above so do not attack us. The statement was an attempt to answer the OP's question. |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
Have I read your profile right x you don't want any action x so what's the issue?
Because we are interested why there is what appears such an attitude. Just because we dont play doesnt preclude us from being interested or allow us to pose a question does it?
was much as you are NOT a swapping couple sone people do NOT want to play with bi couples.
You are straight would you play with a gay couple?"
All we were looking for was an explanation and some information, not trying to start WW3. |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I don't _iew it as an issue. You do. Everyone has preferences but I guess you are finding it hard to get what you want here. "
Give us break guys we are not finding it hard to get what we want we are interested in all forms of sexuality and just wanted opinions and info, dont see or understand why we are now being pilloried. How or why this has been turned against us is mind boggling  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You made a sweeping statement and it's been pointed out that it's a preference. We all have them. My _iew is mine alone.
did you expect everyone to agree with you ? |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"You made a sweeping statement and it's been pointed out that it's a preference. We all have them. My _iew is mine alone.
did you expect everyone to agree with you ? "
Not sure which bit is a sweeping statement and some have pointed out its a preference which we understand. Not asking anyone to agree with us at all, you seem to have taken our interest and question completely out of context and put a twist on it that is simply not there. |
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"Can't understand why the OP has got so much backlash for this. It was simple information seeking post. Fucking hell. "
Yeah im surprised its a swinger site.
So anti gay, bi, male, bbc,bbw, old, young,couple, photo, condom,etc etc |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You made a sweeping statement and it's been pointed out that it's a preference. We all have them. My _iew is mine alone.
did you expect everyone to agree with you ? "
Huh? They were just asking a question! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic 
Where have we said that? "
You didn't, they are twisting your words.
Your OP said -some- are bi phobic. Nothing wrong with that statement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
Where have we said that?
Pls re read your post"
They've asked why many are bi phobic. Not that everybody is. Learn to read. |
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
Where have we said that?
You didn't, they are twisting your words.
Your OP said -some- are bi phobic. Nothing wrong with that statement. "
Twisting it again.
Not some, its so many |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
Where have we said that?
You didn't, they are twisting your words.
Your OP said -some- are bi phobic. Nothing wrong with that statement.
Twisting it again.
Not some, its so many"
Righty ho. |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Just amazed they even look at the profiles of openly bi people who fuck lots of other bi people"
If you are refering to us because like all forms of sexuality, just because we choose not to swap doesnt mean we have no interest in gay, bi, straight etc. Are we not allowed to _iew any profile we want to and often you until youve read the profile you cant tell anyway. ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
Where have we said that?
You didn't, they are twisting your words.
Your OP said -some- are bi phobic. Nothing wrong with that statement.
Twisting it again.
Not some, its so many"
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"Just amazed they even look at the profiles of openly bi people who fuck lots of other bi people
If you are refering to us because like all forms of sexuality, just because we choose not to swap doesnt mean we have no interest in gay, bi, straight etc. Are we not allowed to _iew any profile we want to and often you until youve read the profile you cant tell anyway. ? "
There's your explanation, your choice is yours and theirs is theirs, you like all forms of sexuality other people dont |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
Where have we said that?
Pls re read your post
They've asked why many are bi phobic. Not that everybody is. Learn to read. "
No need for that. Exactly my point. I think fab is tolerant of all sexual preferences so phobic is way too strong a word to use so casually. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
Where have we said that?
Pls re read your post
They've asked why many are bi phobic. Not that everybody is. Learn to read.
No need for that. Exactly my point. I think fab is tolerant of all sexual preferences so phobic is way too strong a word to use so casually."
No it isn't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dont trust anyone that uses the anti word whenever someone has a preference that rules them out.
It's usually the sign of a mind worker or mardy twat that cant get their own way.
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Not everybody but so many....
The point I'm making is that it's not a phobia it's just a preference.
Op what's your theory ? On the dilemma ?  "
It would appear to us that for some reason 'some' straight people are possibly ill at ease with bi's or actually are homaphobic. We wondered if there is any further potential reasons. We fully understand its peoples choice/preference to put in their profile what they are looking for. We were enquiring to see if there was another reason we were not aware of or that our understanding was 'possibly' correct and the general consensus. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
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You may see people as arses but we dont |
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
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That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action. |
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action. "
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that |
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action.
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that "
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action.
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that "
Valid point, cant remember anyone stating that that female part of the couple must not be bi playing straight. I'll stick my tin hat on in readyness for me daring to make an observation.
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action.
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that
Valid point, cant remember anyone stating that that female part of the couple must not be bi playing straight. I'll stick my tin hat on in readyness for me daring to make an observation.
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There will be a few,not many,could be some, don't wish to count or make an issue out of it |
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"We have noticed a lot of comments that people wont consider anyone who is bi in their profile, or is bi but pretending to be straight.
We are not bi or been affected by this but just wondered why are so many bi-phobic. Surely bi's are the perfect answer to anyone looking for fun as they can swing either way, and what is wrong with a bi male for instance playing straight ?
Does this make any sense? Have i explained iwell enough? "
How dare you ask a question out of curiosity, you non swapping, bi phobic monsters! Good lord people need to chill the fuck out on the forum tonight...
To answer your question OP, I think it may possibly just be a personal preference!!! Haha! I think it could be that.
I get what your asking though, you want to know why it would be a personal preference for people and there's no reason why you can't or shouldn't ask that, personally I think it could be that straight men or women could possibly be uncomfortable with having bi men or women having fun around/with them? I can only think of that as a barrier to not wanting to meet them...probably won't help much but it's the best I've got! Bi women are mostly loved but unfortunately in the year 2014, bi men are still not by the majority, the poor souls are 'confused', I've actually overheard conversations where it's been said that men can't be bi, they're either gay or straight! Yet women can be bi...equality? I think not!
Personally, I like bi the best, men and women all getting it on, hell to the yes-fucking-please!  |
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"It's all observation . One persons isn't better than anyone elses. But if you post expect coments that don't agree with one dimensional statements. "
Eh? What have we done to upset you so. What is a one dimensional statement in this context. Not sure we have really disagreed with anyones opinion on the matter. Let it go girl, take a chill pill
We actually put a rider at the bottom of our original post to try and avoid this sort of lambasting, just in case lol |
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"We have noticed a lot of comments that people wont consider anyone who is bi in their profile, or is bi but pretending to be straight.
We are not bi or been affected by this but just wondered why are so many bi-phobic. Surely bi's are the perfect answer to anyone looking for fun as they can swing either way, and what is wrong with a bi male for instance playing straight ?
Does this make any sense? Have i explained iwell enough?
How dare you ask a question out of curiosity, you non swapping, bi phobic monsters! Good lord people need to chill the fuck out on the forum tonight...
To answer your question OP, I think it may possibly just be a personal preference!!! Haha! I think it could be that.
I get what your asking though, you want to know why it would be a personal preference for people and there's no reason why you can't or shouldn't ask that, personally I think it could be that straight men or women could possibly be uncomfortable with having bi men or women having fun around/with them? I can only think of that as a barrier to not wanting to meet them...probably won't help much but it's the best I've got! Bi women are mostly loved but unfortunately in the year 2014, bi men are still not by the majority, the poor souls are 'confused', I've actually overheard conversations where it's been said that men can't be bi, they're either gay or straight! Yet women can be bi...equality? I think not!
Personally, I like bi the best, men and women all getting it on, hell to the yes-fucking-please! "
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Again I'll say it
You made a statement ....so many bi phobic. It's a one dimensional statement. You can't back it up. Because no one writes I'm bi phobic.
I'm very chilled.
Why are you on a swing site if you don't swing?
There you go a sweeping statement about you that's incorrect.
If you don't want _iews don't ask. |
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a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x |
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"Lusty my sweet, chill, chill, go and put some whale music on, run a bath, light some candles and make yourself a hot mug of cocoa. Xxxx"
Ah I don't agree with so you patronise..... |
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"We have noticed a lot of comments that people wont consider anyone who is bi in their profile, or is bi but pretending to be straight.
We are not bi or been affected by this but just wondered why are so many bi-phobic. Surely bi's are the perfect answer to anyone looking for fun as they can swing either way, and what is wrong with a bi male for instance playing straight ?
Does this make any sense? Have i explained iwell enough?
How dare you ask a question out of curiosity, you non swapping, bi phobic monsters! Good lord people need to chill the fuck out on the forum tonight...
To answer your question OP, I think it may possibly just be a personal preference!!! Haha! I think it could be that.
I get what your asking though, you want to know why it would be a personal preference for people and there's no reason why you can't or shouldn't ask that, personally I think it could be that straight men or women could possibly be uncomfortable with having bi men or women having fun around/with them? I can only think of that as a barrier to not wanting to meet them...probably won't help much but it's the best I've got! Bi women are mostly loved but unfortunately in the year 2014, bi men are still not by the majority, the poor souls are 'confused', I've actually overheard conversations where it's been said that men can't be bi, they're either gay or straight! Yet women can be bi...equality? I think not!
Personally, I like bi the best, men and women all getting it on, hell to the yes-fucking-please!
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ScarletStars you have no right to comment you non meeting, non chatting 'swinger'! Haha! Ps this isn't nursery, it's reception class...
SS-no it isn't
Me-yes it is
SS-no it isn't
Me-yes it is
SS-fuck off
Me-no, you fuck off
SS-oh lets just fuck, we're both bi
Me-why not, us bi folk fuck everyone don't we?!
OP, this could possibly be another reason as to why some couples/singles prefer not to meet bi people...the thinking that bi folk think every hole is a goal and fuck anyone and everyone! |
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"Confuseddotcom
Ahh dammit, I wanted the last word! 
I promise not to speak Lol x
You did it again and took the right away from me...damn you woman!"
It's cos I have no one to talk to x
Sorry x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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One may be
Bi curious (which doesnt may you full Bi)
Or
Bi sexaul (fully)
So when people put Bi we dnt know which they mean!
Hey yeah i like to be
GREEDY!!! LOL |
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"Confuseddotcom
Ahh dammit, I wanted the last word!
I promise not to speak Lol x
You did it again and took the right away from me...damn you woman!
It's cos I have no one to talk to x
Sorry x "
Apologising and fluttering your eyelashes won't change the fact that you've gone and done it again! Shush woman! |
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"Some people don't like goodbyes."
Haha! This is funny 
I couldn't care less if people don't want to meet me cos I'm bi, there's not a lot I can do about it so meet people who DO want to meet a bi guy. Simples! |
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x"
Any hole exactly. |
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x"
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here... |
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here..."
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic "
They didn't say everyone was bi phobic, they said some.
To be honest the only one making generalisations was you, commenting on how successful the op was on here and how they couldn't ask questions about people meeting if they weren't meeting.
Who made you boss of the forums? |
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here..."
having anal sex with another woman is hardly the same thing is it. |
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here...
having anal sex with another woman is hardly the same thing is it. "
Why not? If i covered up 2 people and asked someone yo fuck both in the arse I doubt they'd be able to tell me which was the guy and which was the girl. |
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here...
having anal sex with another woman is hardly the same thing is it.
Why not? If i covered up 2 people and asked someone yo fuck both in the arse I doubt they'd be able to tell me which was the guy and which was the girl. "
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here...
having anal sex with another woman is hardly the same thing is it. "
That's not the basis of the point that was made...The post I quoted referred to the woman not feeling special enough if she knew someone had been fucking a man the night before...my question remains, but perhaps I should make it clearer, so having been fucking a woman the night before wouldn't make you feel any less special then?
And it would depend entirely on the difference you were thinking of... |
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there are a lot of women on here who like bi men so why should it bother you if some people dont especialy like them?
some of things on here i find revolting, but there are plenty of others who are up for anything and dont care what they do or who with so what does it matter if not everyone thinks and likes the same things. |
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Personally for us.... Anita has no issues with playing with a bi man. For me, there is a little worry that if the male half of a couple is bi then he might "forget" that I'm not or.... think that they could "convert" me if they just had a chance.
In reality though, as long as the chap can ensure that I won't receive any of his attentions then we're happy to play.
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if it wasnt for the HIV worry i probably wouldnt care but its always at the back of my mind. i dont actualy think about it when i am with someone though. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here...
having anal sex with another woman is hardly the same thing is it.
Why not? If i covered up 2 people and asked someone yo fuck both in the arse I doubt they'd be able to tell me which was the guy and which was the girl.
Competition time.... We need volunteers folks.... "
Ha! I suspect there'd be a long queue! Lol 
I'm suprised (not really!) that this has returned to the 'guys fucking other guys in the arse' argument.
Plenty of people - bi, gay and (shock!) straight people don't indulge in anal sex.
But it's always the main argument when any discussion about bi men takes place. Of course two ladies 'drinking at the furry cup' is so different to two guys indulging in oral.
Not.
Just my 2p's worth.
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By *eerob OP Couple
over a year ago
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"if it wasnt for the HIV worry i probably wouldnt care but its always at the back of my mind. i dont actualy think about it when i am with someone though."
At last thank you a reason and answer to my op. We simply had not thought that a (please dont shoot me down for generaling) bi man due his potential sexual history may be more more at risk of hiv and i now have more understanding that a couple does deserve and shouldbe informed that the bi mail should not saythere are straight. If any of this post offends then i apologise in advance. |
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"if it wasnt for the HIV worry i probably wouldnt care but its always at the back of my mind. i dont actualy think about it when i am with someone though.
At last thank you a reason and answer to my op. We simply had not thought that a (please dont shoot me down for generaling) bi man due his potential sexual history may be more more at risk of hiv and i now have more understanding that a couple does deserve and shouldbe informed that the bi mail should not saythere are straight. If any of this post offends then i apologise in advance. "
Yes every time i go to the GUM clinic, they ask me if i have had sex with any bi sexual men. |
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"if it wasnt for the HIV worry i probably wouldnt care but its always at the back of my mind. i dont actualy think about it when i am with someone though.
At last thank you a reason and answer to my op. We simply had not thought that a (please dont shoot me down for generaling) bi man due his potential sexual history may be more more at risk of hiv and i now have more understanding that a couple does deserve and shouldbe informed that the bi mail should not saythere are straight. If any of this post offends then i apologise in advance.
Yes every time i go to the GUM clinic, they ask me if i have had sex with any bi sexual men."
That question always makes me think they should add the word 'knowingly' in the middle!
And then when you tell them you're a swinger - perform the same tests as if you'd said yes.
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"if it wasnt for the HIV worry i probably wouldnt care but its always at the back of my mind. i dont actualy think about it when i am with someone though.
At last thank you a reason and answer to my op. We simply had not thought that a (please dont shoot me down for generaling) bi man due his potential sexual history may be more more at risk of hiv and i now have more understanding that a couple does deserve and shouldbe informed that the bi mail should not saythere are straight. If any of this post offends then i apologise in advance.
Yes every time i go to the GUM clinic, they ask me if i have had sex with any bi sexual men.
That question always makes me think they should add the word 'knowingly' in the middle!
And then when you tell them you're a swinger - perform the same tests as if you'd said yes.
A"
I always say yes because most men i meet are bi any way i prefer to have all the tests done. If they are straight they might not be and i know some men say they only do oral with other men. |
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Zed is bi and we only play with bi men so the question doesn't really apply to us. However, when guys message us (and LOTS do) and their profile says straight - and I state we only play with bi guys, you'd be surprised how many suddenly admit they've had bi action. I'd say easily 95% say they've sucked cock or had theirs sucked - even if they haven't gone as far as anal.
So for all those who don't play with bi men - you probably already have and will continue to do so whether you know it or not. You can't rely on what people tell you. |
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"Zed is bi and we only play with bi men so the question doesn't really apply to us. However, when guys message us (and LOTS do) and their profile says straight - and I state we only play with bi guys, you'd be surprised how many suddenly admit they've had bi action. I'd say easily 95% say they've sucked cock or had theirs sucked - even if they haven't gone as far as anal.
So for all those who don't play with bi men - you probably already have and will continue to do so whether you know it or not. You can't rely on what people tell you."
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"a lot of women like the thought that a man fancies the pants off of her and wants to rip her clothes off and bang away.....the thought that hes popped his lollipop in a mans bum the night before doesn't mean for that meet she is the universe it kind of means he likes any hole. for a lot of women its psychological Although if a man is bi it would save me shaving my legs lol x
Based on that argument, I don't understand how that's any different to him having been banging the arse off another woman the night before? If a woman feels somehow diminished by someone paying attention to someone else sexually, I think they're in the wrong game here...
having anal sex with another woman is hardly the same thing is it.
Why not? If i covered up 2 people and asked someone yo fuck both in the arse I doubt they'd be able to tell me which was the guy and which was the girl.
Competition time.... We need volunteers folks....
Ha! I suspect there'd be a long queue! Lol
I'm suprised (not really!) that this has returned to the 'guys fucking other guys in the arse' argument.
Plenty of people - bi, gay and (shock!) straight people don't indulge in anal sex.
But it's always the main argument when any discussion about bi men takes place. Of course two ladies 'drinking at the furry cup' is so different to two guys indulging in oral.
Not.
Just my 2p's worth.
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action.
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that "
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action.
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that
A lot of women like man on man action "
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"Yesterday the guy half of a couple asked to meet me on his own saying he loved to fuck TVs.
The couple's profile says they will not meet bi men! I think they may already have one in their midst!"
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"I understand that it is personal preference just dont understand why it seems such an issue. If a straight couple want another couple and the guy is bi, and they dont want bi action and staye that in the first instance then they get what they want??
Have I read your profile right x you don't want any action x so what's the issue?
Because we are interested why there is what appears such an attitude. Just because we dont play doesnt preclude us from being interested or allow us to pose a question does it?
was much as you are NOT a swapping couple sone people do NOT want to play with bi couples.
You are straight would you play with a gay couple?"
That misses the point. A gay couple can only entertain one half of a straight couple. A bi couple could potentially entertain both halves.
People forget that bi guys can restrain themselves when playing with a straight couple. Being bi does not make you a rapist. |
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"We have noticed a lot of comments that people wont consider anyone who is bi in their profile, or is bi but pretending to be straight.
We are not bi or been affected by this but just wondered why are so many bi-phobic. Surely bi's are the perfect answer to anyone looking for fun as they can swing either way, and what is wrong with a bi male for instance playing straight ?
Does this make any sense? Have i explained iwell enough? "
I've not seen people wary of bi women but have with bi men for a few reasons from that bi guys mighty touch the male half of a couple to bi guys are more promiscuous and practice safe sex less. I haven't seen specific proof though of either. |
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Lets be honest here people ok, its because of stds, and HIV in particular. Incidences of this are higher amongst gay men, so any guy engaging in homosexual activity is at a higher risk than hetrosexual activity, hence why you are asked if youve been doing this when you visit the clinic |
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"What I've found is that people state it as a preference even though they find it horrific that a man might have fucked another and then wants to fuck the lady half of the couple.
Which I don't understand because surely it's exactly the same as him banging a woman up the arse. But that's fine with them.
No wonder some say they're straight on here. Some people think bi guys are the devil. "
Though we do understand the personal preference thing we also often detect an undertone that takes it further than that. Some won't play with people that have played with people that are bi. To a certain extent it almost comes across as paranoia and to be perfectly honest how many degrees of separation is there in the swinging world before you find some sort of bi play. Personal preference is fair enough but panicked justification is something different. Sorry if that has offended anyone. |
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"they aren't anti bi, they just don't want to meet bi people, nothing wrong with that, its their preference, move on"
But the question is where that preference comes from. It's perfectly reasonable to talk about that. |
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"What I've found is that people state it as a preference even though they find it horrific that a man might have fucked another and then wants to fuck the lady half of the couple.
Which I don't understand because surely it's exactly the same as him banging a woman up the arse. But that's fine with them.
No wonder some say they're straight on here. Some people think bi guys are the devil. "
True and we are just normal perverts lol |
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"The sweeping bit is that everyone is bi phobic
They didn't say everyone was bi phobic, they said some.
To be honest the only one making generalisations was you, commenting on how successful the op was on here and how they couldn't ask questions about people meeting if they weren't meeting.
Who made you boss of the forums? "
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew."
I think this is quite a simplistic explanation of many peoples reasons. I dont see why so many people find it so difficult to grasp. |
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This question is asked EVERY day. Hasn't the answer been found yet? Why do some people expect others to justify who they fuck? The Equality and Human Rights Acts don't apply to my pussy!
One doesn't have to be anti anything when choosing playmates. There are certain men that DON'T meet my play needs but for some they'd interpret that as a form of phobia, discrimination etc.
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"I've noticed there is a distinct coldness towards bi men from several people on here. Fuck a man in the arse it's a no go area. Fuck a woman in the arse it's fine.
Where is the logic? It is no different. But bi women. Every fucker loves them!
That's cos guys like to watch girl on girl action.
Oh so bi women are fine. It's just the bi guys that aren't?
Right. I'll be sure to remember that
A lot of women like man on man action "
The only porn I watch is gay. I'd love to see two men at play. For my play needs though bi men don't work. |
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"how does he whip off his bi disguise? he should be naked already.....
It's secret Bi Central Command kills us and you if we tell you, we're a bit like the Lizard People."
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I think a point whuch is being asked here and not really answered is: What difference does it make it a guy is playing straight with you, if he has in the past, touched another man's willy?
No one is asking anyone to justify who they allow or do not allow to play with them, but clarification is being sought. People do get very defensive on here. The spirit of discussion is often stifled by this. |
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew.
I think this is quite a simplistic explanation of many peoples reasons. I dont see why so many people find it so difficult to grasp. "
Perhaps because by far the vast majority of bi guys have never and probably will never stick their dick up another guys arse.
In my experience, and I'm no virgin, most guys that play with guys only want to do oral. Frustratingly! |
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"What I've found is that people state it as a preference even though they find it horrific that a man might have fucked another and then wants to fuck the lady half of the couple.
Which I don't understand because surely it's exactly the same as him banging a woman up the arse. But that's fine with them.
No wonder some say they're straight on here. Some people think bi guys are the devil. "
A very good _iewpoint. Personally we've no issues with it either |
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew.
I think this is quite a simplistic explanation of many peoples reasons. I dont see why so many people find it so difficult to grasp. "
Because its covered in lube? Sorry. Couldnt help myself. |
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"I think a point whuch is being asked here and not really answered is: What difference does it make it a guy is playing straight with you, if he has in the past, touched another man's willy?
No one is asking anyone to justify who they allow or do not allow to play with them, but clarification is being sought. People do get very defensive on here. The spirit of discussion is often stifled by this. "
That's not what's being asked though. "Biphobic" as used in the op suggests otherwise.
I don't play with bi guys for the same reason I don't play with married men, men with upper limb disabilities say: they don't meet my needs. I've come to that conclusion based on those I've met which makes me disregard all.
For example married men have too many restrictions: no marking, no perfume etc. I like humiliation: straight men blush at some of the things I get them to do: the bi guys I met didn't bat an eyelid! I like to hang playmates from hooks hard to do if your upper limbs are weak.
However, if I have no attached, bi or turn down a disabled man to some I'd be judgemental, homophobic and shallow.
It's best not to assume or expect people to justify their preferences. |
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew."
I wonder how many she has played with, I would think at least 50% |
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew.
I think this is quite a simplistic explanation of many peoples reasons. I dont see why so many people find it so difficult to grasp.
Perhaps because by far the vast majority of bi guys have never and probably will never stick their dick up another guys arse.
In my experience, and I'm no virgin, most guys that play with guys only want to do oral. Frustratingly! "
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew.
I think this is quite a simplistic explanation of many peoples reasons. I dont see why so many people find it so difficult to grasp.
Perhaps because by far the vast majority of bi guys have never and probably will never stick their dick up another guys arse.
In my experience, and I'm no virgin, most guys that play with guys only want to do oral. Frustratingly!
Are you saying you want me to shag you?"
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"Lets be honest here people ok, its because of stds, and HIV in particular. Incidences of this are higher amongst gay men, so any guy engaging in homosexual activity is at a higher risk than hetrosexual activity, hence why you are asked if youve been doing this when you visit the clinic"
If this had been the first reply it would have probably saved the other 140 odd that followed it. 
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"Lets be honest here people ok, its because of stds, and HIV in particular. Incidences of this are higher amongst gay men, so any guy engaging in homosexual activity is at a higher risk than hetrosexual activity, hence why you are asked if youve been doing this when you visit the clinic
If this had been the first reply it would have probably saved the other 140 odd that followed it.
XXXX"
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over a year ago
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"What I've found is that people state it as a preference even though they find it horrific that a man might have fucked another and then wants to fuck the lady half of the couple.
Which I don't understand because surely it's exactly the same as him banging a woman up the arse. But that's fine with them.
No wonder some say they're straight on here. Some people think bi guys are the devil. "
Leave Bobby Boucher's mother out of this |
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew."
I can see her point. I don't like the thought of playing with a dick that's been in another woman's arse,pussy or mouth. That's why I don't meet couples. You don't know where it might have been before me |
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"Lets be honest here people ok, its because of stds, and HIV in particular. Incidences of this are higher amongst gay men, so any guy engaging in homosexual activity is at a higher risk than hetrosexual activity, hence why you are asked if youve been doing this when you visit the clinic
If this had been the first reply it would have probably saved the other 140 odd that followed it.
XXXX
Yes but its not what people want to hear is it? "
They also don't like to think they are at the same risk as bi guys because they have sex with swingers.
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"I dont mind bi guys but my wife does not like the idea of playing with a dick that may have been up another guys backside. I can see her point of _iew.
I can see her point. I don't like the thought of playing with a dick that's been in another woman's arse,pussy or mouth. That's why I don't meet couples. You don't know where it might have been before me "
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By *bi HaiveMan
over a year ago
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"I think a point whuch is being asked here and not really answered is: What difference does it make it a guy is playing straight with you, if he has in the past, touched another man's willy?
No one is asking anyone to justify who they allow or do not allow to play with them, but clarification is being sought. People do get very defensive on here. The spirit of discussion is often stifled by this.
That's not what's being asked though. "Biphobic" as used in the op suggests otherwise.
I don't play with bi guys for the same reason I don't play with married men, men with upper limb disabilities say: they don't meet my needs. I've come to that conclusion based on those I've met which makes me disregard all.
For example married men have too many restrictions: no marking, no perfume etc. I like humiliation: straight men blush at some of the things I get them to do: the bi guys I met didn't bat an eyelid! I like to hang playmates from hooks hard to do if your upper limbs are weak.
However, if I have no attached, bi or turn down a disabled man to some I'd be judgemental, homophobic and shallow.
It's best not to assume or expect people to justify their preferences."
Miss_tress - I think the issue for many when this argument comes around is that it's often the usual stereotypical arguments that are thrown around. Whereas your _iewpoint is based on personal, logical reasoning - simply that bi guys don't suit your style of play, rather than the anal/high risk/they're all camp as butlins/it's not the guy that's worried it's the wife comments thrown out time and time again.
You address the question from an individual standpoint. Others lump at bi/curious guys into the same category - risk taking, arse shagging, 'unclean', unable to resist a straight guys cock and generally willing to shag anything.
As I've always said - I don't give a fig for others preferences and tastes if they excuse me.
I just object to being put in the same category as all those risk taking, arse shagging, straight guys cock seeking, any holes a goal manwhores that we all know bi guys really are!
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"I think a point whuch is being asked here and not really answered is: What difference does it make it a guy is playing straight with you, if he has in the past, touched another man's willy?
No one is asking anyone to justify who they allow or do not allow to play with them, but clarification is being sought. People do get very defensive on here. The spirit of discussion is often stifled by this.
That's not what's being asked though. "Biphobic" as used in the op suggests otherwise.
I don't play with bi guys for the same reason I don't play with married men, men with upper limb disabilities say: they don't meet my needs. I've come to that conclusion based on those I've met which makes me disregard all.
For example married men have too many restrictions: no marking, no perfume etc. I like humiliation: straight men blush at some of the things I get them to do: the bi guys I met didn't bat an eyelid! I like to hang playmates from hooks hard to do if your upper limbs are weak.
However, if I have no attached, bi or turn down a disabled man to some I'd be judgemental, homophobic and shallow.
It's best not to assume or expect people to justify their preferences.
Miss_tress - I think the issue for many when this argument comes around is that it's often the usual stereotypical arguments that are thrown around. Whereas your _iewpoint is based on personal, logical reasoning - simply that bi guys don't suit your style of play, rather than the anal/high risk/they're all camp as butlins/it's not the guy that's worried it's the wife comments thrown out time and time again.
You address the question from an individual standpoint. Others lump at bi/curious guys into the same category - risk taking, arse shagging, 'unclean', unable to resist a straight guys cock and generally willing to shag anything.
As I've always said - I don't give a fig for others preferences and tastes if they excuse me.
I just object to being put in the same category as all those risk taking, arse shagging, straight guys cock seeking, any holes a goal manwhores that we all know bi guys really are!
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"I think a point whuch is being asked here and not really answered is: What difference does it make it a guy is playing straight with you, if he has in the past, touched another man's willy?
No one is asking anyone to justify who they allow or do not allow to play with them, but clarification is being sought. People do get very defensive on here. The spirit of discussion is often stifled by this.
That's not what's being asked though. "Biphobic" as used in the op suggests otherwise.
I don't play with bi guys for the same reason I don't play with married men, men with upper limb disabilities say: they don't meet my needs. I've come to that conclusion based on those I've met which makes me disregard all.
For example married men have too many restrictions: no marking, no perfume etc. I like humiliation: straight men blush at some of the things I get them to do: the bi guys I met didn't bat an eyelid! I like to hang playmates from hooks hard to do if your upper limbs are weak.
However, if I have no attached, bi or turn down a disabled man to some I'd be judgemental, homophobic and shallow.
It's best not to assume or expect people to justify their preferences.
Miss_tress - I think the issue for many when this argument comes around is that it's often the usual stereotypical arguments that are thrown around. Whereas your _iewpoint is based on personal, logical reasoning - simply that bi guys don't suit your style of play, rather than the anal/high risk/they're all camp as butlins/it's not the guy that's worried it's the wife comments thrown out time and time again.
You address the question from an individual standpoint. Others lump at bi/curious guys into the same category - risk taking, arse shagging, 'unclean', unable to resist a straight guys cock and generally willing to shag anything.
As I've always said - I don't give a fig for others preferences and tastes if they excuse me.
I just object to being put in the same category as all those risk taking, arse shagging, straight guys cock seeking, any holes a goal manwhores that we all know bi guys really are!
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I havent heard anybody in this thread lump them into any of those categories you speak of |
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