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"Right, This isn't a place to teach, but I am sick to death of seeing so many Transphobic threads, Or guys questioning other guys etc. It's becoming abit stupid. People don't question your Cisgenderhood (Genetic), So why question someone's womanhood / sexuality. It's about time you all took in a valuable piece of education and note to yourself the next time your suppressing something you desire or something you don't understand, that there is always a explanation out there. So, Lets start. Transsexual Woman & Men (TS/TG): The term "Transgender" was made in 1958 by a doctor in Texas. To be transgender, is to be born with multiple different build ups scientifically of the oppose gender to your birth sex. The brain being one. A woman has a woman's brain, A man has a mans brain, A transgender Man or woman will have the oppose brain to there physical identity. Sciencetists have took on studies for a very long time to only recently make this claim 100% Factual. It took years of studying to find out the main cause of transsexualism. Just like you being born Cisgender, you were born with fully correct places internal science. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ Trans people will go on to take Hormonal medication which gives them the puberty they were suppose to have. Thanks to scientists finding more and more proof as time goes on, Children can now go on a blocker legally until 16 and later go for GRS (Genital reassignment surgery) at 18. Genitals: Surgery is the big if. People think to be a woman you need a vagina. To be a man you need a dick. But, When your trans, It does not work like that. You imagine living your life as a gender you could only feel you are and using the anatomy you grew up with? Would you go for it? No you wouldn't. Surgery is not a requirement to trans people. Some will go for it, some wont. It isn't as advanced as it could be and it costs thousands. (Approx $16,000 +) Genitals do not define a trans persons gender when you bring science into play. Sex is what you make of it. If a guy loves girls but happens to like her for every part of her, Or a woman likes a trans man for every part of him, thats just it. it's there attraction. It's all about comfortability and open mindedness. If you have to open threads to question people on that, then that only shows how small minded and brainwashed you are. Transvestities and Crossdressers: TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. Now, last but not least: Attraction: For a guy to like a Transsexual woman, Or, A woman to like a transsexual man, is nothing of your concern. It has nothing to do with you, and questioning someone else's sexuality is like questioning just how much of a bigot you are. I see so many posts saying "Men who sleep with TS Are gay".. Wrong. To be gay, You must be sexually and physically tuned on by men who present themselves as men. When you bring physical attraction into play, The person is the gender they are inside. That is all that should matter. There genital situation is none of your business, neither is what they get upto behind closed doors. That is there business and you should respect that. I have had relationships with guys who strictly date Woman. These days, society is so used to putting things into boxes that you forget people are free to love who they want, fuck who they want and be who they want. As I say again, attraction is the key. Trans people do not wake up returning to a sex they are. They ive 24/7 as the sex they are, and take hormones or have had some sort of surgery. TVS/CDS, Now Im not to question anything but as a TS myself, I don't know how to correctly label a guys sexuality with a TV, but, I don't intend too. As I say, It's none of our business. If a guy is attracted to a TV, so be it. Thats his choice, not yours. So, there you have it. Please know science is alot more powerful than your mind, and there are great people here who will correct you and put you in place when silly threads are started to bash trans people. We are who we are, just like you are who you are and we have every right to live our lifes and date who we want without being questioned. Thanks! TS Jodiee (Thanks to all the people I do see stating and stating this over and over again to trans hating threads. As I say many times, it really is about time Fabs corrected there Dress up to medical because bad stigma is what it causes) " Great post  | |||
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"Right, This isn't a place to teach, but I am sick to death of seeing so many Transphobic threads, Or guys questioning other guys etc. It's becoming abit stupid. People don't question your Cisgenderhood (Genetic), So why question someone's womanhood / sexuality. It's about time you all took in a valuable piece of education and note to yourself the next time your suppressing something you desire or something you don't understand, that there is always a explanation out there. So, Lets start. Transsexual Woman & Men (TS/TG): The term "Transgender" was made in 1958 by a doctor in Texas. To be transgender, is to be born with multiple different build ups scientifically of the oppose gender to your birth sex. The brain being one. A woman has a woman's brain, A man has a mans brain, A transgender Man or woman will have the oppose brain to there physical identity. Sciencetists have took on studies for a very long time to only recently make this claim 100% Factual. It took years of studying to find out the main cause of transsexualism. Just like you being born Cisgender, you were born with fully correct places internal science. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ Trans people will go on to take Hormonal medication which gives them the puberty they were suppose to have. Thanks to scientists finding more and more proof as time goes on, Children can now go on a blocker legally until 16 and later go for GRS (Genital reassignment surgery) at 18. Genitals: Surgery is the big if. People think to be a woman you need a vagina. To be a man you need a dick. But, When your trans, It does not work like that. You imagine living your life as a gender you could only feel you are and using the anatomy you grew up with? Would you go for it? No you wouldn't. Surgery is not a requirement to trans people. Some will go for it, some wont. It isn't as advanced as it could be and it costs thousands. (Approx $16,000 +) Genitals do not define a trans persons gender when you bring science into play. Sex is what you make of it. If a guy loves girls but happens to like her for every part of her, Or a woman likes a trans man for every part of him, thats just it. it's there attraction. It's all about comfortability and open mindedness. If you have to open threads to question people on that, then that only shows how small minded and brainwashed you are. Transvestities and Crossdressers: TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. Now, last but not least: Attraction: For a guy to like a Transsexual woman, Or, A woman to like a transsexual man, is nothing of your concern. It has nothing to do with you, and questioning someone else's sexuality is like questioning just how much of a bigot you are. I see so many posts saying "Men who sleep with TS Are gay".. Wrong. To be gay, You must be sexually and physically tuned on by men who present themselves as men. When you bring physical attraction into play, The person is the gender they are inside. That is all that should matter. There genital situation is none of your business, neither is what they get upto behind closed doors. That is there business and you should respect that. I have had relationships with guys who strictly date Woman. These days, society is so used to putting things into boxes that you forget people are free to love who they want, fuck who they want and be who they want. As I say again, attraction is the key. Trans people do not wake up returning to a sex they are. They ive 24/7 as the sex they are, and take hormones or have had some sort of surgery. TVS/CDS, Now Im not to question anything but as a TS myself, I don't know how to correctly label a guys sexuality with a TV, but, I don't intend too. As I say, It's none of our business. If a guy is attracted to a TV, so be it. Thats his choice, not yours. So, there you have it. Please know science is alot more powerful than your mind, and there are great people here who will correct you and put you in place when silly threads are started to bash trans people. We are who we are, just like you are who you are and we have every right to live our lifes and date who we want without being questioned. Thanks! TS Jodiee (Thanks to all the people I do see stating and stating this over and over again to trans hating threads. As I say many times, it really is about time Fabs corrected there Dress up to medical because bad stigma is what it causes) Great post "needed to be said. fed up of seeing all the hate and belittling guys over there attractions. These people dont see science is alot more farfetched than there biggoted opinions xxxx | |||
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"Always has confused me But labels are better cut out anyway " Yep, but transgender is a medical condition. no confusion. its all about physical attraction as i say and comfortability in sexual preferences. But, again, it's noones business what a guy or a girl may like doing with a trans person. it's theres. You are so right about labels though xxx | |||
"Great post jodie. very educational and well written. "Thanks gorgeous 3 xx | |||
"Right, This isn't a place to teach, but I am sick to death of seeing so many Transphobic threads, Or guys questioning other guys etc. It's becoming abit stupid. People don't question your Cisgenderhood (Genetic), So why question someone's womanhood / sexuality. It's about time you all took in a valuable piece of education and note to yourself the next time your suppressing something you desire or something you don't understand, that there is always a explanation out there. So, Lets start. Transsexual Woman & Men (TS/TG): The term "Transgender" was made in 1958 by a doctor in Texas. To be transgender, is to be born with multiple different build ups scientifically of the oppose gender to your birth sex. The brain being one. A woman has a woman's brain, A man has a mans brain, A transgender Man or woman will have the oppose brain to there physical identity. Sciencetists have took on studies for a very long time to only recently make this claim 100% Factual. It took years of studying to find out the main cause of transsexualism. Just like you being born Cisgender, you were born with fully correct places internal science. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ Trans people will go on to take Hormonal medication which gives them the puberty they were suppose to have. Thanks to scientists finding more and more proof as time goes on, Children can now go on a blocker legally until 16 and later go for GRS (Genital reassignment surgery) at 18. Genitals: Surgery is the big if. People think to be a woman you need a vagina. To be a man you need a dick. But, When your trans, It does not work like that. You imagine living your life as a gender you could only feel you are and using the anatomy you grew up with? Would you go for it? No you wouldn't. Surgery is not a requirement to trans people. Some will go for it, some wont. It isn't as advanced as it could be and it costs thousands. (Approx $16,000 +) Genitals do not define a trans persons gender when you bring science into play. Sex is what you make of it. If a guy loves girls but happens to like her for every part of her, Or a woman likes a trans man for every part of him, thats just it. it's there attraction. It's all about comfortability and open mindedness. If you have to open threads to question people on that, then that only shows how small minded and brainwashed you are. Transvestities and Crossdressers: TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. Now, last but not least: Attraction: For a guy to like a Transsexual woman, Or, A woman to like a transsexual man, is nothing of your concern. It has nothing to do with you, and questioning someone else's sexuality is like questioning just how much of a bigot you are. I see so many posts saying "Men who sleep with TS Are gay".. Wrong. To be gay, You must be sexually and physically tuned on by men who present themselves as men. When you bring physical attraction into play, The person is the gender they are inside. That is all that should matter. There genital situation is none of your business, neither is what they get upto behind closed doors. That is there business and you should respect that. I have had relationships with guys who strictly date Woman. These days, society is so used to putting things into boxes that you forget people are free to love who they want, fuck who they want and be who they want. As I say again, attraction is the key. Trans people do not wake up returning to a sex they are. They ive 24/7 as the sex they are, and take hormones or have had some sort of surgery. TVS/CDS, Now Im not to question anything but as a TS myself, I don't know how to correctly label a guys sexuality with a TV, but, I don't intend too. As I say, It's none of our business. If a guy is attracted to a TV, so be it. Thats his choice, not yours. So, there you have it. Please know science is alot more powerful than your mind, and there are great people here who will correct you and put you in place when silly threads are started to bash trans people. We are who we are, just like you are who you are and we have every right to live our lifes and date who we want without being questioned. Thanks! TS Jodiee (Thanks to all the people I do see stating and stating this over and over again to trans hating threads. As I say many times, it really is about time Fabs corrected there Dress up to medical because bad stigma is what it causes) Great post
needed to be said. fed up of seeing all the hate and belittling guys over there attractions. These people dont see science is alot more farfetched than there biggoted opinions xxxx"Well I must admit it has also educated me too  | |||
"Always has confused me But labels are better cut out anyway Yep, but transgender is a medical condition. no confusion. its all about physical attraction as i say and comfortability in sexual preferences. But, again, it's noones business what a guy or a girl may like doing with a trans person. it's theres. You are so right about labels though xxx" You are who you are  | |||
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"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more " Theres a difference between asking and bashing. You should see some of the things that are said in the threads. disgusting... | |||
"Thank you for that cos I've always been confused. Cleared up a few things for me. I hate the fact that all of us seem to come in for a bashing one way or another because of our preferences! lol But then, lively debate can ensue and new friends made. "Amen to that babe. Live and let live! xx | |||
"Great post jodie. very educational and well written. "Second that wholeheartedly xx I found it very helpful | |||
"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more Theres a difference between asking and bashing. You should see some of the things that are said in the threads. disgusting..." I agree but telling us its none of our concern about how the attractiveness works isn't going to get questions answered. | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too "Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words. I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed. | |||
"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more "
Also, some of us are already very aware of transgender issues and don't need to be aggressively berated or lectured. | |||
"I don't understand why TV/TS is one category - surely there's a way of changing it since in my limited experience they are wholly different?" Totally Agree there should be separate categories for TV's, TS's, CD's and a special one for HPW's!!  | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed. "you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post? Really? | |||
"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more Theres a difference between asking and bashing. You should see some of the things that are said in the threads. disgusting...I agree but telling us its none of our concern about how the attractiveness works isn't going to get questions answered. " Because it doesn't take a genius. If a mans attracted to you, why would he be? Cos your a woman. Take a look at my pic, what do you see? A woman. What does a guy see? A woman. What is he attracted too? A woman hahaha!!! its just not as hard as people make out and sometimes, people really just do it to have a dig at trans people or to cover up something they secretly want but can't come to terms with it yet xxxxx | |||
a clear and concise explaination of the differences between categories which so often, and incorrectly, are treated as interchangeable labels.
Surely they can change the TV/TS thing? We did also wonder why they were banded together.
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"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more
Also, some of us are already very aware of transgender issues and don't need to be aggressively berated or lectured."You again. Not having another argument with you. Read the last bit of what I said where i thanked people who understood and backed us trans girls. *shakes head* | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
"I'll agree it's long. | |||
"Bravo
a clear and concise explaination of the differences between categories which so often, and incorrectly, are treated as interchangeable labels.
Surely they can change the TV/TS thing? We did also wonder why they were banded together.
"so many people over the years have complained about it. It's just a money thing for fabs now unforts xxx | |||
"Bravo
a clear and concise explaination of the differences between categories which so often, and incorrectly, are treated as interchangeable labels.
Surely they can change the TV/TS thing? We did also wonder why they were banded together.
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"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
"She started on me the other day and I got blocked, not acknowledging her. lol | |||
"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more Theres a difference between asking and bashing. You should see some of the things that are said in the threads. disgusting...I agree but telling us its none of our concern about how the attractiveness works isn't going to get questions answered. Because it doesn't take a genius. If a mans attracted to you, why would he be? Cos your a woman. Take a look at my pic, what do you see? A woman. What does a guy see? A woman. What is he attracted too? A woman hahaha!!! its just not as hard as people make out and sometimes, people really just do it to have a dig at trans people or to cover up something they secretly want but can't come to terms with it yet xxxxx" so you would prefer the none genius's not to ask questions? | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long."think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her | |||
"I don't understand why TV/TS is one category - surely there's a way of changing it since in my limited experience they are wholly different? Totally Agree there should be separate categories for TV's, TS's, CD's and a special one for HPW's!! "we should all boycott and send requests to have them split. they'd have to eventually haha xxx | |||
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"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more Theres a difference between asking and bashing. You should see some of the things that are said in the threads. disgusting...I agree but telling us its none of our concern about how the attractiveness works isn't going to get questions answered. Because it doesn't take a genius. If a mans attracted to you, why would he be? Cos your a woman. Take a look at my pic, what do you see? A woman. What does a guy see? A woman. What is he attracted too? A woman hahaha!!! its just not as hard as people make out and sometimes, people really just do it to have a dig at trans people or to cover up something they secretly want but can't come to terms with it yet xxxxxso you would prefer the none genius's not to ask questions?" Of course I would :P Just as I say, There is some really nasty threads made and this is what this is aimed at. People who aren't willing to learn basically :P xxx | |||
"Also....and I say this really really hoping I don't sound patronising or anything.... But I think it's flipping brilliant that you can talk so openly and frankly about your gender. You're brilliant. To be so open and confident at such a relatively young age is amazing "Took me two breakdowns, lost family and no friends to come clean and true too myself. I hate hiding so i'm open if its going to help others understand me and my T Brothers and sisters xxxx Thanks for the nice words lovely | |||
" Totally Agree there should be separate categories for TV's, TS's, CD's and a special one for HPW's!! "I think it would be a swine to adjudicate who belongs in which. Do you go on whether someone feels themselves to be more female than male? If so, it is the same problem as on chix, with a lot of TV's putting themselves in that category. Do you do it on how someone looks? Then this is tricky, as whilst there are some stunning TS, there are also some highly stunning Tv's (not I) and I've met some TS who despite the work aren't what they may have hoped they'd become when they embarked on the process. Is it down to who has had surgery, hormone therapy, change of name and birth certificate? If it is, what proof is required and if these have had the op, would they be better classed as being in their new sex. It's a nice idea, but I think very difficult to actually implement. | |||
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"Very informative, however, if people didn't open threads asking how are they going to learn it doesn't make them a bigot. I personally don't know any transgender people but I have read and found it fascinating and would love to ask one lots of questions. Unfortunately I found the nature of your thread had an aggressive undertone and while I can appreciate you must get fed up with those that are bigots there are plenty that would like to understand more
Also, some of us are already very aware of transgender issues and don't need to be aggressively berated or lectured.
You again. Not having another argument with you. Read the last bit of what I said where i thanked people who understood and backed us trans girls. *shakes head*"Me again. A forum user on a forum. Go figure. And wondering why you come across as so hateful of TVs and CDs when you preach acceptance of TSs. I understand why you don't want to be classified in the same group because TS and TV are completely different but that's not the fault of the TVs. I've supported the point that TV and TS should be separate categories on here before. Dismissing them as "dress-ups" and speaking as if they are somehow less valid than you because they simply enjoy what they do, whereas you have a physiological condition seems to be just as rude as the behaviour you are complaining about. You're preaching acceptance, albeit very aggressively, no? As for an argument, if there is one it will be one-sided because I'm only interested in making my point. | |||
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TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. | |||
" Because in reality the people who don't read profile are not the ones with identity crisis issues... " Preaching to the heavens above!! Amen! X | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long.
think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her"You're entitled to think that but you're wrong. I disagree with some of the things Jodie says and how she says them, not with her herself. If you look back to the other thread you are referring to you'll see just that, me questioning specific things said. It wasn't me that had posts removed from that thread because I was attacking and insulting specific people rather than debating what they had said. In response to your accusation, I think a lot of people are sucking up to Jodie because they fancy her and because meeting a gorgeous TS is a fantasy many have. The OP raises some valid points for people who don't already know them but I can't agree it's well written, sorry. And as diamonds said, it's very aggressive and antagonistic. If a single man had written this about people not questioning his sexuality, he'd be torn to shreds. | |||
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I hope I have worded this right and haven't offended anybody. .
so from the bottom of my heart I'd like 2 thank the op for this information xxxxxxxxx
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"How Have I dissed them. You just clearly love getting wrong ends of the sticks. Like i said I won't be responding to you. Goodbye." Then don't ask me a question
I said dismissed, not dissed.
Do you not think calling them "dress ups" comes across as a bit rude and dismissive? I do. | |||
"Although I wholeheartedly agree separate categorisation would be a move in the right direction… I also feel the site owners have already given every member an equal opportunity to write specific information on their profiles to compliment the options and categorisations available in the drop-down menus and tick box selection… So if every site members took responsibility for writing profiles that clearly explained what they offer and expect with potential partners all these identity crisis threads would become irrelevant …. Because in reality the people who don't read profile are not the ones with identity crisis issues... " Sense as always from Soxy. | |||
"I for one want 2 thank you for writing this I may self have a daughter who wants to be a boy and has done everything over the past few years to change her whole appearance 2 look like a man.... i am very grateful and am lucky she/he is still with us as for years she/he was self harming and i truly believed I was going 2 one day wake up and she/ he would be gone... i totally accept her as a he now and I wouldnt change who or what she/he has become...I'm very proud mum
I hope I have worded this right and haven't offended anybody. .
so from the bottom of my heart I'd like 2 thank the op for this information xxxxxxxxx
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Unconditional love and support x | |||
"I for one want 2 thank you for writing this I may self have a daughter who wants to be a boy and has done everything over the past few years to change her whole appearance 2 look like a man.... i am very grateful and am lucky she/he is still with us as for years she/he was self harming and i truly believed I was going 2 one day wake up and she/ he would be gone... i totally accept her as a he now and I wouldnt change who or what she/he has become...I'm very proud mum
I hope I have worded this right and haven't offended anybody. .
so from the bottom of my heart I'd like 2 thank the op for this information xxxxxxxxx
"one little thing, If you accept him, call him by his male pronouns. It's such a hard thing when a parent finds out they have a trans child. I was adopted throw out, to then live in foster care, meet my biologic mum who then disowned me.. So, You are a amazing parent and a prime example of allowing your child to be who they actually are. I always see these statistics for trans children and it breaks my heart to hear some as young as 6 have killed themselves or self harmed  Keep showing the world what acceptance and love is all about. He's no doubt proud to have parents like you, cos I sure would've xxxxxx | |||
" So if every site members took responsibility for writing profiles that clearly explained what they offer and expect with potential partners all these identity crisis threads would become irrelevant …. Because in reality the people who don't read profile are not the ones with identity crisis issues... "
And heaven forbid if people would actually bother reading profiles, or read them and didn't decide to chance their luck anyway then...
Single straight women wouldn't suffer from unsuitable male or female attention
Single straight men ditto
Users wouldn't suddenly find out the single fem they want to meet 'doesn't meet alone'
People could be confident that the bi guy or girl is also happy straight and wouldn't molest either of them
TV/TS users would know who actually wanted to meet them
And so many other issues based on sexual preferences that seem to have exploded here recently could be avoided.
Hang on....I think I just saw a pig fly past the window..... | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long.
think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her
You're entitled to think that but you're wrong. I disagree with some of the things Jodie says and how she says them, not with her herself.
If you look back to the other thread you are referring to you'll see just that, me questioning specific things said.
It wasn't me that had posts removed from that thread because I was attacking and insulting specific people rather than debating what they had said.
In response to your accusation, I think a lot of people are sucking up to Jodie because they fancy her and because meeting a gorgeous TS is a fantasy many have.
The OP raises some valid points for people who don't already know them but I can't agree it's well written, sorry.
And as diamonds said, it's very aggressive and antagonistic.
If a single man had written this about people not questioning his sexuality, he'd be torn to shreds."if you dont think its well written then why are so many people thanking her for writing this? Not just guys... but women too. so your saying that guys are only agreeing with her because they see her as a fantasy fuck? You are a very silly person. | |||
fabulous post and fully agree
side stepping slightly my bug bear i the coming out thing, why should anyone have to come out to anyone? a straight person doesn't have to announce their sexuality so why should anyone else?
i truly look forward to the day that everyone can be accepted as the individual they are without having to label themselves up for others approval (hope that made sense) | |||
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fabulous post and fully agree
side stepping slightly my bug bear i the coming out thing, why should anyone have to come out to anyone? a straight person doesn't have to announce their sexuality so why should anyone else?
i truly look forward to the day that everyone can be accepted as the individual they are without having to label themselves up for others approval (hope that made sense) "AMEEEEN! and its slowly happening! I mean the world is adapting, slowly but surely! xxx | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long.
think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her
You're entitled to think that but you're wrong. I disagree with some of the things Jodie says and how she says them, not with her herself.
If you look back to the other thread you are referring to you'll see just that, me questioning specific things said.
It wasn't me that had posts removed from that thread because I was attacking and insulting specific people rather than debating what they had said.
In response to your accusation, I think a lot of people are sucking up to Jodie because they fancy her and because meeting a gorgeous TS is a fantasy many have.
The OP raises some valid points for people who don't already know them but I can't agree it's well written, sorry.
And as diamonds said, it's very aggressive and antagonistic.
If a single man had written this about people not questioning his sexuality, he'd be torn to shreds.
if you dont think its well written then why are so many people thanking her for writing this?
Not just guys... but women too.
so your saying that guys are only agreeing with her because they see her as a fantasy fuck?
You are a very silly person."ignore her she keeps bringing up my past thread I wrote about me strictly liking guys who go with woman and TS only. Just like a woman who goes with a man but not another woman etc and she just started going crazy on that thread too and now on this. i got blocked for standing back to her. I wont this time. people who blow posts out of proportion. she clearly missed the part of my profile where it reads "Sharp and straight to the point". I don't stand for bullshit. xx | |||
"Better watch what i say, might get accused of "dissing" again or being "antagonistic"" Or not being able to read "dismissing"  | |||
" So if every site members took responsibility for writing profiles that clearly explained what they offer and expect with potential partners all these identity crisis threads would become irrelevant …. Because in reality the people who don't read profile are not the ones with identity crisis issues...
And heaven forbid if people would actually bother reading profiles, or read them and didn't decide to chance their luck anyway then...
Single straight women wouldn't suffer from unsuitable male or female attention
Single straight men ditto
Users wouldn't suddenly find out the single fem they want to meet 'doesn't meet alone'
People could be confident that the bi guy or girl is also happy straight and wouldn't molest either of them
TV/TS users would know who actually wanted to meet them
And so many other issues based on sexual preferences that seem to have exploded here recently could be avoided.
Hang on....I think I just saw a pig fly past the window....."OMG I AM DONE WITH YOU HAHAAH!!!! That's hilarious! Yes, I seen that piggy too! xxxx | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long.
think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her
You're entitled to think that but you're wrong. I disagree with some of the things Jodie says and how she says them, not with her herself.
If you look back to the other thread you are referring to you'll see just that, me questioning specific things said.
It wasn't me that had posts removed from that thread because I was attacking and insulting specific people rather than debating what they had said.
In response to your accusation, I think a lot of people are sucking up to Jodie because they fancy her and because meeting a gorgeous TS is a fantasy many have.
The OP raises some valid points for people who don't already know them but I can't agree it's well written, sorry.
And as diamonds said, it's very aggressive and antagonistic.
If a single man had written this about people not questioning his sexuality, he'd be torn to shreds.
if you dont think its well written then why are so many people thanking her for writing this?
Not just guys... but women too.
so your saying that guys are only agreeing with her because they see her as a fantasy fuck?
You are a very silly person.
ignore her she keeps bringing up my past thread I wrote about me strictly liking guys who go with woman and TS only. Just like a woman who goes with a man but not another woman etc and she just started going crazy on that thread too and now on this. i got blocked for standing back to her. I wont this time. people who blow posts out of proportion. she clearly missed the part of my profile where it reads "Sharp and straight to the point". I don't stand for bullshit. xx "My issue here is nothing to do with any other thread. I'm not the only one who thinks the OP is unnecessarily aggressive. | |||
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"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long.
think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her
You're entitled to think that but you're wrong. I disagree with some of the things Jodie says and how she says them, not with her herself.
If you look back to the other thread you are referring to you'll see just that, me questioning specific things said.
It wasn't me that had posts removed from that thread because I was attacking and insulting specific people rather than debating what they had said.
In response to your accusation, I think a lot of people are sucking up to Jodie because they fancy her and because meeting a gorgeous TS is a fantasy many have.
The OP raises some valid points for people who don't already know them but I can't agree it's well written, sorry.
And as diamonds said, it's very aggressive and antagonistic.
If a single man had written this about people not questioning his sexuality, he'd be torn to shreds.
if you dont think its well written then why are so many people thanking her for writing this?
Not just guys... but women too.
so your saying that guys are only agreeing with her because they see her as a fantasy fuck?
You are a very silly person.
ignore her she keeps bringing up my past thread I wrote about me strictly liking guys who go with woman and TS only. Just like a woman who goes with a man but not another woman etc and she just started going crazy on that thread too and now on this. i got blocked for standing back to her. I wont this time. people who blow posts out of proportion. she clearly missed the part of my profile where it reads "Sharp and straight to the point". I don't stand for bullshit. xx
My issue here is nothing to do with any other thread. I'm not the only one who thinks the OP is unnecessarily aggressive."I only see you and one other. but I see dozens of people saying great post and thanking her. | |||
"Well I must admit it has also educated me too
Allow me to educate further. Comfortability and scientifical are not words.
I don't see how people asking things to try to better understand them shows they are bigoted and brainwashed.
you really had to nit pic at two words from a long well written post?
Really?
I'll agree it's long.
think you have a problem with jodie personally as this isn't the first thread ive seen you being totally negative towards her
You're entitled to think that but you're wrong. I disagree with some of the things Jodie says and how she says them, not with her herself.
If you look back to the other thread you are referring to you'll see just that, me questioning specific things said.
It wasn't me that had posts removed from that thread because I was attacking and insulting specific people rather than debating what they had said.
In response to your accusation, I think a lot of people are sucking up to Jodie because they fancy her and because meeting a gorgeous TS is a fantasy many have.
The OP raises some valid points for people who don't already know them but I can't agree it's well written, sorry.
And as diamonds said, it's very aggressive and antagonistic.
If a single man had written this about people not questioning his sexuality, he'd be torn to shreds.
if you dont think its well written then why are so many people thanking her for writing this?
Not just guys... but women too.
so your saying that guys are only agreeing with her because they see her as a fantasy fuck?
You are a very silly person.
ignore her she keeps bringing up my past thread I wrote about me strictly liking guys who go with woman and TS only. Just like a woman who goes with a man but not another woman etc and she just started going crazy on that thread too and now on this. i got blocked for standing back to her. I wont this time. people who blow posts out of proportion. she clearly missed the part of my profile where it reads "Sharp and straight to the point". I don't stand for bullshit. xx
My issue here is nothing to do with any other thread. I'm not the only one who thinks the OP is unnecessarily aggressive.
I only see you and one other.
but I see dozens of people saying great post and thanking her."That one other and I are equally entitled to our view though. Our comments are on the content and tone of the post, not on the poster. I still say had a man posted this, about not being bi/gay because he meets TVs and not to judge him, particularly in this style with this tone, he'd have been ripped apart. | |||
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"Great post. It's a shame that it is needed but hats off for you post x" Thank you lovely xxxx | |||
"I for one want 2 thank you for writing this I may self have a daughter who wants to be a boy and has done everything over the past few years to change her whole appearance 2 look like a man.... i am very grateful and am lucky she/he is still with us as for years she/he was self harming and i truly believed I was going 2 one day wake up and she/ he would be gone... i totally accept her as a he now and I wouldnt change who or what she/he has become...I'm very proud mum
I hope I have worded this right and haven't offended anybody. .
so from the bottom of my heart I'd like 2 thank the op for this information xxxxxxxxx
one little thing, If you accept him, call him by his male pronouns. It's such a hard thing when a parent finds out they have a trans child. I was adopted throw out, to then live in foster care, meet my biologic mum who then disowned me.. So, You are a amazing parent and a prime example of allowing your child to be who they actually are. I always see these statistics for trans children and it breaks my heart to hear some as young as 6 have killed themselves or self harmed Keep showing the world what acceptance and love is all about. He's no doubt proud to have parents like you, cos I sure would've xxxxxx"thank you so much and I will.. i will love him no matter what... It hurts me day in day out when I see the pain he was going through by looking at the cuts up his arms and legs... thankfully he has now stopped cutting and things are looking up.. and just ignore the small minded people on this site as it's people like them that make the people like may child hide away and think there is something wrong with them when really society is in the wrong
I just hope they never have 2 go through what I have as a parent and by myself Xxx | |||
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"I for one want 2 thank you for writing this I may self have a daughter who wants to be a boy and has done everything over the past few years to change her whole appearance 2 look like a man.... i am very grateful and am lucky she/he is still with us as for years she/he was self harming and i truly believed I was going 2 one day wake up and she/ he would be gone... i totally accept her as a he now and I wouldnt change who or what she/he has become...I'm very proud mum
I hope I have worded this right and haven't offended anybody. .
so from the bottom of my heart I'd like 2 thank the op for this information xxxxxxxxx
one little thing, If you accept him, call him by his male pronouns. It's such a hard thing when a parent finds out they have a trans child. I was adopted throw out, to then live in foster care, meet my biologic mum who then disowned me.. So, You are a amazing parent and a prime example of allowing your child to be who they actually are. I always see these statistics for trans children and it breaks my heart to hear some as young as 6 have killed themselves or self harmed Keep showing the world what acceptance and love is all about. He's no doubt proud to have parents like you, cos I sure would've xxxxxx
thank you so much and I will..
i will love him no matter what...
It hurts me day in day out when I see the pain he was going through by looking at the cuts up his arms and legs...
thankfully he has now stopped cutting and things are looking up..
and just ignore the small minded people on this site as it's people like them that make the people like may child hide away and think there is something wrong with them when really society is in the wrong
I just hope they never have 2 go through what I have as a parent and by myself Xxx"exactly. Keep being amazing. you truly are great parents and you have my number now so if you ever need anyone you know where I am xxx | |||
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"great post Jodie, I never found it forceful or aggressive, but informative "its peoples opinions, I don't think It was aggressive considering threads were opended calling us men and gays and this is where the need for this thread come from. people usually love my straight to the point attitude haha! :P xxx | |||
"Right, This isn't a place to teach, but I am sick to death of seeing so many Transphobic threads, Or guys questioning other guys etc. It's becoming abit stupid. People don't question your Cisgenderhood (Genetic), So why question someone's womanhood / sexuality. It's about time you all took in a valuable piece of education and note to yourself the next time your suppressing something you desire or something you don't understand, that there is always a explanation out there. So, Lets start. Transsexual Woman & Men (TS/TG): The term "Transgender" was made in 1958 by a doctor in Texas. To be transgender, is to be born with multiple different build ups scientifically of the oppose gender to your birth sex. The brain being one. A woman has a woman's brain, A man has a mans brain, A transgender Man or woman will have the oppose brain to there physical identity. Sciencetists have took on studies for a very long time to only recently make this claim 100% Factual. It took years of studying to find out the main cause of transsexualism. Just like you being born Cisgender, you were born with fully correct places internal science. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ Trans people will go on to take Hormonal medication which gives them the puberty they were suppose to have. Thanks to scientists finding more and more proof as time goes on, Children can now go on a blocker legally until 16 and later go for GRS (Genital reassignment surgery) at 18. Genitals: Surgery is the big if. People think to be a woman you need a vagina. To be a man you need a dick. But, When your trans, It does not work like that. You imagine living your life as a gender you could only feel you are and using the anatomy you grew up with? Would you go for it? No you wouldn't. Surgery is not a requirement to trans people. Some will go for it, some wont. It isn't as advanced as it could be and it costs thousands. (Approx $16,000 +) Genitals do not define a trans persons gender when you bring science into play. Sex is what you make of it. If a guy loves girls but happens to like her for every part of her, Or a woman likes a trans man for every part of him, thats just it. it's there attraction. It's all about comfortability and open mindedness. If you have to open threads to question people on that, then that only shows how small minded and brainwashed you are. Transvestities and Crossdressers: TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. Now, last but not least: Attraction: For a guy to like a Transsexual woman, Or, A woman to like a transsexual man, is nothing of your concern. It has nothing to do with you, and questioning someone else's sexuality is like questioning just how much of a bigot you are. I see so many posts saying "Men who sleep with TS Are gay".. Wrong. To be gay, You must be sexually and physically tuned on by men who present themselves as men. When you bring physical attraction into play, The person is the gender they are inside. That is all that should matter. There genital situation is none of your business, neither is what they get upto behind closed doors. That is there business and you should respect that. I have had relationships with guys who strictly date Woman. These days, society is so used to putting things into boxes that you forget people are free to love who they want, fuck who they want and be who they want. As I say again, attraction is the key. Trans people do not wake up returning to a sex they are. They ive 24/7 as the sex they are, and take hormones or have had some sort of surgery. TVS/CDS, Now Im not to question anything but as a TS myself, I don't know how to correctly label a guys sexuality with a TV, but, I don't intend too. As I say, It's none of our business. If a guy is attracted to a TV, so be it. Thats his choice, not yours. So, there you have it. Please know science is alot more powerful than your mind, and there are great people here who will correct you and put you in place when silly threads are started to bash trans people. We are who we are, just like you are who you are and we have every right to live our lifes and date who we want without being questioned. Thanks! TS Jodiee (Thanks to all the people I do see stating and stating this over and over again to trans hating threads. As I say many times, it really is about time Fabs corrected there Dress up to medical because bad stigma is what it causes) " No way I am reading all that but I seen your pics so I agree with whatever you say | |||
"I for one want 2 thank you for writing this I may self have a daughter who wants to be a boy and has done everything over the past few years to change her whole appearance 2 look like a man.... i am very grateful and am lucky she/he is still with us as for years she/he was self harming and i truly believed I was going 2 one day wake up and she/ he would be gone... i totally accept her as a he now and I wouldnt change who or what she/he has become...I'm very proud mum
I hope I have worded this right and haven't offended anybody. .
so from the bottom of my heart I'd like 2 thank the op for this information xxxxxxxxx
one little thing, If you accept him, call him by his male pronouns. It's such a hard thing when a parent finds out they have a trans child. I was adopted throw out, to then live in foster care, meet my biologic mum who then disowned me.. So, You are a amazing parent and a prime example of allowing your child to be who they actually are. I always see these statistics for trans children and it breaks my heart to hear some as young as 6 have killed themselves or self harmed Keep showing the world what acceptance and love is all about. He's no doubt proud to have parents like you, cos I sure would've xxxxxx
thank you so much and I will..
i will love him no matter what...
It hurts me day in day out when I see the pain he was going through by looking at the cuts up his arms and legs...
thankfully he has now stopped cutting and things are looking up..
and just ignore the small minded people on this site as it's people like them that make the people like may child hide away and think there is something wrong with them when really society is in the wrong
I just hope they never have 2 go through what I have as a parent and by myself Xxx
exactly. Keep being amazing. you truly are great parents and you have my number now so if you ever need anyone you know where I am xxx"thank you | |||
"Right, This isn't a place to teach, but I am sick to death of seeing so many Transphobic threads, Or guys questioning other guys etc. It's becoming abit stupid. People don't question your Cisgenderhood (Genetic), So why question someone's womanhood / sexuality. It's about time you all took in a valuable piece of education and note to yourself the next time your suppressing something you desire or something you don't understand, that there is always a explanation out there. So, Lets start. Transsexual Woman & Men (TS/TG): The term "Transgender" was made in 1958 by a doctor in Texas. To be transgender, is to be born with multiple different build ups scientifically of the oppose gender to your birth sex. The brain being one. A woman has a woman's brain, A man has a mans brain, A transgender Man or woman will have the oppose brain to there physical identity. Sciencetists have took on studies for a very long time to only recently make this claim 100% Factual. It took years of studying to find out the main cause of transsexualism. Just like you being born Cisgender, you were born with fully correct places internal science. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ Trans people will go on to take Hormonal medication which gives them the puberty they were suppose to have. Thanks to scientists finding more and more proof as time goes on, Children can now go on a blocker legally until 16 and later go for GRS (Genital reassignment surgery) at 18. Genitals: Surgery is the big if. People think to be a woman you need a vagina. To be a man you need a dick. But, When your trans, It does not work like that. You imagine living your life as a gender you could only feel you are and using the anatomy you grew up with? Would you go for it? No you wouldn't. Surgery is not a requirement to trans people. Some will go for it, some wont. It isn't as advanced as it could be and it costs thousands. (Approx $16,000 +) Genitals do not define a trans persons gender when you bring science into play. Sex is what you make of it. If a guy loves girls but happens to like her for every part of her, Or a woman likes a trans man for every part of him, thats just it. it's there attraction. It's all about comfortability and open mindedness. If you have to open threads to question people on that, then that only shows how small minded and brainwashed you are. Transvestities and Crossdressers: TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. Now, last but not least: Attraction: For a guy to like a Transsexual woman, Or, A woman to like a transsexual man, is nothing of your concern. It has nothing to do with you, and questioning someone else's sexuality is like questioning just how much of a bigot you are. I see so many posts saying "Men who sleep with TS Are gay".. Wrong. To be gay, You must be sexually and physically tuned on by men who present themselves as men. When you bring physical attraction into play, The person is the gender they are inside. That is all that should matter. There genital situation is none of your business, neither is what they get upto behind closed doors. That is there business and you should respect that. I have had relationships with guys who strictly date Woman. These days, society is so used to putting things into boxes that you forget people are free to love who they want, fuck who they want and be who they want. As I say again, attraction is the key. Trans people do not wake up returning to a sex they are. They ive 24/7 as the sex they are, and take hormones or have had some sort of surgery. TVS/CDS, Now Im not to question anything but as a TS myself, I don't know how to correctly label a guys sexuality with a TV, but, I don't intend too. As I say, It's none of our business. If a guy is attracted to a TV, so be it. Thats his choice, not yours. So, there you have it. Please know science is alot more powerful than your mind, and there are great people here who will correct you and put you in place when silly threads are started to bash trans people. We are who we are, just like you are who you are and we have every right to live our lifes and date who we want without being questioned. Thanks! TS Jodiee (Thanks to all the people I do see stating and stating this over and over again to trans hating threads. As I say many times, it really is about time Fabs corrected there Dress up to medical because bad stigma is what it causes) No way I am reading all that but I seen your pics so I agree with whatever you say "hahaha!! girl!! lol xxx | |||
"Right, This isn't a place to teach, but I am sick to death of seeing so many Transphobic threads, Or guys questioning other guys etc. It's becoming abit stupid. People don't question your Cisgenderhood (Genetic), So why question someone's womanhood / sexuality. It's about time you all took in a valuable piece of education and note to yourself the next time your suppressing something you desire or something you don't understand, that there is always a explanation out there. So, Lets start. Transsexual Woman & Men (TS/TG): The term "Transgender" was made in 1958 by a doctor in Texas. To be transgender, is to be born with multiple different build ups scientifically of the oppose gender to your birth sex. The brain being one. A woman has a woman's brain, A man has a mans brain, A transgender Man or woman will have the oppose brain to there physical identity. Sciencetists have took on studies for a very long time to only recently make this claim 100% Factual. It took years of studying to find out the main cause of transsexualism. Just like you being born Cisgender, you were born with fully correct places internal science. Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/ Trans people will go on to take Hormonal medication which gives them the puberty they were suppose to have. Thanks to scientists finding more and more proof as time goes on, Children can now go on a blocker legally until 16 and later go for GRS (Genital reassignment surgery) at 18. Genitals: Surgery is the big if. People think to be a woman you need a vagina. To be a man you need a dick. But, When your trans, It does not work like that. You imagine living your life as a gender you could only feel you are and using the anatomy you grew up with? Would you go for it? No you wouldn't. Surgery is not a requirement to trans people. Some will go for it, some wont. It isn't as advanced as it could be and it costs thousands. (Approx $16,000 +) Genitals do not define a trans persons gender when you bring science into play. Sex is what you make of it. If a guy loves girls but happens to like her for every part of her, Or a woman likes a trans man for every part of him, thats just it. it's there attraction. It's all about comfortability and open mindedness. If you have to open threads to question people on that, then that only shows how small minded and brainwashed you are. Transvestities and Crossdressers: TV's and CD's identify in no shape or form as the oppose sex. There is no scientifical explanation to this, But, Some guys feel comfortable in womans clothes, Some girls feel comfortable in mens clothes. To dress up isn't a bad thing. Everyone is free to do what they want and to feel as comfortable as they want. You wouldn't want to be questioned on the clothes you wear or the house you live in? So, why would you question the likelihood of someone who enjoys dressing as the oppose sex? It is probably caused by the inaccurate andro levels which can cause conflict, but again, there has never been any proof as of yet. Now, last but not least: Attraction: For a guy to like a Transsexual woman, Or, A woman to like a transsexual man, is nothing of your concern. It has nothing to do with you, and questioning someone else's sexuality is like questioning just how much of a bigot you are. I see so many posts saying "Men who sleep with TS Are gay".. Wrong. To be gay, You must be sexually and physically tuned on by men who present themselves as men. When you bring physical attraction into play, The person is the gender they are inside. That is all that should matter. There genital situation is none of your business, neither is what they get upto behind closed doors. That is there business and you should respect that. I have had relationships with guys who strictly date Woman. These days, society is so used to putting things into boxes that you forget people are free to love who they want, fuck who they want and be who they want. As I say again, attraction is the key. Trans people do not wake up returning to a sex they are. They ive 24/7 as the sex they are, and take hormones or have had some sort of surgery. TVS/CDS, Now Im not to question anything but as a TS myself, I don't know how to correctly label a guys sexuality with a TV, but, I don't intend too. As I say, It's none of our business. If a guy is attracted to a TV, so be it. Thats his choice, not yours. So, there you have it. Please know science is alot more powerful than your mind, and there are great people here who will correct you and put you in place when silly threads are started to bash trans people. We are who we are, just like you are who you are and we have every right to live our lifes and date who we want without being questioned. Thanks! TS Jodiee (Thanks to all the people I do see stating and stating this over and over again to trans hating threads. As I say many times, it really is about time Fabs corrected there Dress up to medical because bad stigma is what it causes) No way I am reading all that but I seen your pics so I agree with whatever you say "Btw, i say girl alot doesnt mean your a girl its like slang.. like, Oh gurrrrrl! haha xx | |||
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"Very well written Jodie. Definitely needed to be said
E xxxx"Thank you! I would attempt to do a heart, but fabswingers is anti lovehearts.. lol xxxx | |||
"yeah found it patronizing and aggressive also.. although i commend the OP for trying to educate felt it was more drill sergeant and have it rammed down your throat. Still hey-ho " Phew! It's not just me!
I have learnt something today though so cheers. Shame you're spoiling it with your those little digs at other forum users. No need for it since you've said your piece. | |||
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"yeah found it patronizing and aggressive also.. although i commend the OP for trying to educate felt it was more drill sergeant and have it rammed down your throat. Still hey-ho Phew! It's not just me!
I have learnt something today though so cheers. Shame you're spoiling it with your those little digs at other forum users. No need for it since you've said your piece."What digs? if someone's going to be all up my ass over every thread i post, of course I'm going to say something. can't do or say anything on here without someone taking it to heart too much. | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting" Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. | |||
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"Ooo someone's got sand in their vagi...oh wait... " Wow, babe that was so hilarious! So so funny mr comical! | |||
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"yeah found it patronizing and aggressive also.. although i commend the OP for trying to educate felt it was more drill sergeant and have it rammed down your throat. Still hey-ho Phew! It's not just me!
I have learnt something today though so cheers. Shame you're spoiling it with your those little digs at other forum users. No need for it since you've said your piece.
What digs? if someone's going to be all up my ass over every thread i post, of course I'm going to say something. can't do or say anything on here without someone taking it to heart too much. "You could just ignore it and stick to the subject that you've posted. | |||
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"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op . "Thank you!! xxx | |||
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"Great post Jodie xx"Thank you hunny xxxx | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op . "glad someone else can see this. | |||
"I thought it was a shemale or something lol." Thats because you obviously enjoy pornhub "shemale" was a term made by the adult industry :P | |||
"Well take me which ever way you want. I wanted to make a point, and I get straight too it. Entitled to your opinions but you know nothing of me or what I'm like in person so, no skin of my nose. As the post stated, it's aimed at those who kept opening threads to "bash" not educate... *sips coffee*" You keep saying this but I am finding it hard to find posts started just to bash TS people. Maybe mail me some links so I can check them out? | |||
"Well take me which ever way you want. I wanted to make a point, and I get straight too it. Entitled to your opinions but you know nothing of me or what I'm like in person so, no skin of my nose. As the post stated, it's aimed at those who kept opening threads to "bash" not educate... *sips coffee* You keep saying this but I am finding it hard to find posts started just to bash TS people. Maybe mail me some links so I can check them out?" Okay, one sec xxx | |||
"I thought it was a shemale or something lol. Thats because you obviously enjoy pornhub "shemale" was a term made by the adult industry :P "I prefer xhamster myself and yes I do like to watch it, recon ur right thre that they invented the term. | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. " Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP. | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this."This... We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it. | |||
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"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this.
This...
We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it. "Can one of you lovely parents adopt me? lol! xxxx | |||
"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread … "Just my opinion .... The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie. A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban . And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP. "I believe the most childish comment came from the person that instead of focusing on the content of the post decided to be the grammer police on two words and then went on to say that guys are only agreeing becsuse they see jodie as a fantasy fuck. Very childish. You only need to scroll through this and see lots of couples,men and woman all thanking her for this post. | |||
"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread …
Just my opinion ....
The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie.
A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban .
And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op "i cant win on here babe. I ignore someone I get called rude, I reply, I get called aggressive and not letting others have there say, I yawn, I get called disrespectful too someones opinion.. Can not win! I can't lol xx | |||
"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread …
Just my opinion ....
The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie.
A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban .
And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op " | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this.
This...
We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it. " | |||
As the partner of AngelbiTV I wouldn't say that she doesn't identify as a female though....each individual is very different and I know that when she's dressed she feels very feminine in every way (not just a physical way). Yes it's a choice and being a TS isn't a choice it's who you are...but it's not always that clear cut for TV's. I know when Angel needs to dress as I can sense it physically and emotionally in her.
I understand that some would like there to be a separate category on here for TS and TV but I wonder why TS don't use the F category as that is what they are?
As I said a great informative post and I hope my comments make sense?!
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"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread …
Just my opinion ....
The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie.
A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban .
And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op "Think that poster was just raising issues, its healthy debate after all.. not everyone has to agree all of the time. Think the 'yawn' comment showed lack of maturity. Jodie was responding to comments and VV was in turn replying back to Jodie. No malice was shown | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this.
This...
We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it.
Can one of you lovely parents adopt me? lol! xxxx"count yourself as adopted | |||
"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread …
Just my opinion ....
The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie.
A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban .
And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op "Fair-play to your opinion.... However I would suggest a suitable response aimed at stimulating the discussion topic would be of greater value to a thread than a dismissive yawn... | |||
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" However I would suggest a suitable response aimed at stimulating the discussion topic would be of greater value to a thread than a dismissive yawn... "This for me too....so on that note...maybe now is the time to get back to the OP | |||
"Great post Jodie
As the partner of AngelbiTV I wouldn't say that she doesn't identify as a female though....each individual is very different and I know that when she's dressed she feels very feminine in every way (not just a physical way). Yes it's a choice and being a TS isn't a choice it's who you are...but it's not always that clear cut for TV's. I know when Angel needs to dress as I can sense it physically and emotionally in her.
I understand that some would like there to be a separate category on here for TS and TV but I wonder why TS don't use the F category as that is what they are?
As I said a great informative post and I hope my comments make sense?!
Mrs Dirty "Makes perfect sense babe xxxx and yeah I didn't know how to word the TV bit as I don't know how they feel, but I did try to write it politely explaining the comfortable feeling when in attire. Thanks for enlightening me on that one xxx | |||
"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread …
Just my opinion ....
The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie.
A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban .
And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op
Think that poster was just raising issues, its healthy debate after all.. not everyone has to agree all of the time.
Think the 'yawn' comment showed lack of maturity. Jodie was responding to comments and VV was in turn replying back to Jodie. No malice was shown
"I just didn't want to get into another arguement so dismissive yawn was better than keep replying. Sorry if that come across "Childish" haha! I'd rather yawn than cause more conflict :P | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP.
I believe the most childish comment came from the person that instead of focusing on the content of the post decided to be the grammer police on two words and then went on to say that guys are only agreeing becsuse they see jodie as a fantasy fuck.
Very childish.
You only need to scroll through this and see lots of couples,men and woman all thanking her for this post.
"My point was that it's pompous to write an "educational" post ramming this down people's throats and yet make up words to do it. I actually found that very funny. I didn't like the tone of the post or the content. Calling people bigoted and brainwashed for asking questions is unacceptable. And I used my blunt, straight to the point approach to express my view. We've established that Jodie thinks blunt, direct attitudes are a good thing and that others are entitled to disagree with her, so there should be no problem here. Some people like the post and learned things from it. I don't like some of what was posted, or the tone, and some others feel the same as me. This is a forum for discussion not sycophantic fapping. | |||
"A persons sexuality or choice on gender shouldn't ever be an issue. We should all equally respect peoples choices, like we would expect ours to be also. If questions are based on confusion or curiosity, then I see nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about them. But opinions work both ways. You should be able to listen/read as much as you're able to put your point across also. We're all people at the end of the day. Gender and sexuality should never be a barrier." preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx | |||
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"Just my opinion…. But I can understand how it would be easy for anyone to interrupt receiving a “yawn” reaction to a thread response as an attempt to be less that respectful to those who’ve made the effort to contribute a post to the thread …
Just my opinion ....
The said poster who evoked the yawn clearly has an issue with Jodie.
A yawn is better than a reaction which results in a forum ban .
And that would be a shame after such a wonderful op
Think that poster was just raising issues, its healthy debate after all.. not everyone has to agree all of the time.
Think the 'yawn' comment showed lack of maturity. Jodie was responding to comments and VV was in turn replying back to Jodie. No malice was shown
"Thanks, I've no malice here. I just disagree with aspects such as accusing people asking questions of being bigoted and brainwashed. | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP.
I believe the most childish comment came from the person that instead of focusing on the content of the post decided to be the grammer police on two words and then went on to say that guys are only agreeing becsuse they see jodie as a fantasy fuck.
Very childish.
You only need to scroll through this and see lots of couples,men and woman all thanking her for this post.
My point was that it's pompous to write an "educational" post ramming this down people's throats and yet make up words to do it.
I actually found that very funny.
I didn't like the tone of the post or the content. Calling people bigoted and brainwashed for asking questions is unacceptable.
And I used my blunt, straight to the point approach to express my view. We've established that Jodie thinks blunt, direct attitudes are a good thing and that others are entitled to disagree with her, so there should be no problem here.
Some people like the post and learned things from it. I don't like some of what was posted, or the tone, and some others feel the same as me.
This is a forum for discussion not sycophantic fapping."Again, you, like always, take my threads out of proportion. ^^ read my last comment and let that sink in your mind. There is nothing wrong with questioning and being curious, as stated 100 times to you, the problem lie when people are evil and malice in there comments to bash and belittle trans woman and TV's. | |||
"What about the cake?" I'd love some cake ha | |||
" preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx" | |||
"A persons sexuality or choice on gender shouldn't ever be an issue. We should all equally respect peoples choices, like we would expect ours to be also. If questions are based on confusion or curiosity, then I see nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about them. But opinions work both ways. You should be able to listen/read as much as you're able to put your point across also. We're all people at the end of the day. Gender and sexuality should never be a barrier. preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx"I don't have a womb either lol does that mean I'm not female
Mrs Dirty | |||
"A persons sexuality or choice on gender shouldn't ever be an issue. We should all equally respect peoples choices, like we would expect ours to be also. If questions are based on confusion or curiosity, then I see nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about them. But opinions work both ways. You should be able to listen/read as much as you're able to put your point across also. We're all people at the end of the day. Gender and sexuality should never be a barrier. preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx
I don't have a womb either lol does that mean I'm not female
Mrs Dirty "I always use that to argue someones bigotry when being malice and they always go on genitals haha! So, I bring in amphorditism and thats when they don't know what to say :P Gotta love it! xxx | |||
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"Think you may mean hermaphroditism, don't think the word you said actually exists" Thats the one! hahah!! Thank you | |||
"A persons sexuality or choice on gender shouldn't ever be an issue. We should all equally respect peoples choices, like we would expect ours to be also. If questions are based on confusion or curiosity, then I see nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about them. But opinions work both ways. You should be able to listen/read as much as you're able to put your point across also. We're all people at the end of the day. Gender and sexuality should never be a barrier. preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx"That's not malice, it's just their personal opinion, to which they are entitled. I don't agree with that opinion and I would post to say so, but I recognise they are entitled to the view. To spout hate or violence because someone lives as a female but doesn't have a womb is unacceptable in any circumstances, (and what about those who've had hysterectomies?) However, people believe a lot of things I don't. Something being gay is an illness and can be cured. Some think gay marriage is wrong. Some are pro - abortion whereas some are anti - abortion. Everyone is free to believe what they want. If someone doesn't believe you - or me for that matter - are female, it doesn't change anything. You know who you are and the people that matter in your life will know too. You won't gain acceptance by lecturing and shouting at the people who don't agree with you. | |||
"A persons sexuality or choice on gender shouldn't ever be an issue. We should all equally respect peoples choices, like we would expect ours to be also. If questions are based on confusion or curiosity, then I see nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about them. But opinions work both ways. You should be able to listen/read as much as you're able to put your point across also. We're all people at the end of the day. Gender and sexuality should never be a barrier. preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx
That's not malice, it's just their personal opinion, to which they are entitled.
I don't agree with that opinion and I would post to say so, but I recognise they are entitled to the view.
To spout hate or violence because someone lives as a female but doesn't have a womb is unacceptable in any circumstances, (and what about those who've had hysterectomies?)
However, people believe a lot of things I don't. Something being gay is an illness and can be cured. Some think gay marriage is wrong. Some are pro - abortion whereas some are anti - abortion.
Everyone is free to believe what they want.
If someone doesn't believe you - or me for that matter - are female, it doesn't change anything. You know who you are and the people that matter in your life will know too.
You won't gain acceptance by lecturing and shouting at the people who don't agree with you.
"I agree with everything, but posts like this, got me to where I am today. 10,000 fans over the web, high search engine rank and you-tube video views of over 250,000+ on my old vlogs, Blog readers where I ranted on there about life and so on. So, I was doing something right that people admired and respected. But, thank you for your opinion, I apprechiate it | |||
"A persons sexuality or choice on gender shouldn't ever be an issue. We should all equally respect peoples choices, like we would expect ours to be also. If questions are based on confusion or curiosity, then I see nothing wrong with a healthy discussion about them. But opinions work both ways. You should be able to listen/read as much as you're able to put your point across also. We're all people at the end of the day. Gender and sexuality should never be a barrier. preach to the lords, As i said earlier, This was mainly aimed at the people who reply malice in threads. I seen a comment once in a thread that said "no matter how much hormones or surgery they take, they are still men. They don't have a womb" And them sort of people is what this op is aimed at.. jeez that's alot of is haha xx
That's not malice, it's just their personal opinion, to which they are entitled.
I don't agree with that opinion and I would post to say so, but I recognise they are entitled to the view.
To spout hate or violence because someone lives as a female but doesn't have a womb is unacceptable in any circumstances, (and what about those who've had hysterectomies?)
However, people believe a lot of things I don't. Something being gay is an illness and can be cured. Some think gay marriage is wrong. Some are pro - abortion whereas some are anti - abortion.
Everyone is free to believe what they want.
If someone doesn't believe you - or me for that matter - are female, it doesn't change anything. You know who you are and the people that matter in your life will know too.
You won't gain acceptance by lecturing and shouting at the people who don't agree with you.
I agree with everything, but posts like this, got me to where I am today. 10,000 fans over the web, high search engine rank and you-tube video views of over 250,000+ on my old vlogs, Blog readers where I ranted on there about life and so on. So, I was doing something right that people admired and respected. But, thank you for your opinion, I apprechiate it "Sure those 10000 fans are there for your views? | |||
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"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP.
I believe the most childish comment came from the person that instead of focusing on the content of the post decided to be the grammer police on two words and then went on to say that guys are only agreeing becsuse they see jodie as a fantasy fuck.
Very childish.
You only need to scroll through this and see lots of couples,men and woman all thanking her for this post.
My point was that it's pompous to write an "educational" post ramming this down people's throats and yet make up words to do it.
I actually found that very funny.
I didn't like the tone of the post or the content. Calling people bigoted and brainwashed for asking questions is unacceptable.
And I used my blunt, straight to the point approach to express my view. We've established that Jodie thinks blunt, direct attitudes are a good thing and that others are entitled to disagree with her, so there should be no problem here.
Some people like the post and learned things from it. I don't like some of what was posted, or the tone, and some others feel the same as me.
This is a forum for discussion not sycophantic fapping.
Again, you, like always, take my threads out of proportion. ^^ read my last comment and let that sink in your mind. There is nothing wrong with questioning and being curious, as stated 100 times to you, the problem lie when people are evil and malice in there comments to bash and belittle trans woman and TV's. "Your OP didn't say that though. It was very offensive to people who ask questions. Clearly you didn't mean that but how is anyone else to know that? Also, you seem to see malice when in fact someone sees things differently to you. You probably find someone saying you were born male and in their opinion will always be male, very hurtful but that doesn't mean it's malicious. It's just a different point of view. If it was said just to upset you, or discriminate against you, that would be malicious. Genuinely having the opinion, however, is not malicious. I'm actually on the side of trans- positive education, (and my comments to that end can be seen on many previous trans- related threads) but not when it attacks or belittles others and not when it's aggressive. I'd like to see threads preaching tolerance and acceptance showing that tolerance and acceptance to all. | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP.
I believe the most childish comment came from the person that instead of focusing on the content of the post decided to be the grammer police on two words and then went on to say that guys are only agreeing becsuse they see jodie as a fantasy fuck.
Very childish.
You only need to scroll through this and see lots of couples,men and woman all thanking her for this post.
My point was that it's pompous to write an "educational" post ramming this down people's throats and yet make up words to do it.
I actually found that very funny.
I didn't like the tone of the post or the content. Calling people bigoted and brainwashed for asking questions is unacceptable.
And I used my blunt, straight to the point approach to express my view. We've established that Jodie thinks blunt, direct attitudes are a good thing and that others are entitled to disagree with her, so there should be no problem here.
Some people like the post and learned things from it. I don't like some of what was posted, or the tone, and some others feel the same as me.
This is a forum for discussion not sycophantic fapping.
Again, you, like always, take my threads out of proportion. ^^ read my last comment and let that sink in your mind. There is nothing wrong with questioning and being curious, as stated 100 times to you, the problem lie when people are evil and malice in there comments to bash and belittle trans woman and TV's.
Your OP didn't say that though. It was very offensive to people who ask questions. Clearly you didn't mean that but how is anyone else to know that?
Also, you seem to see malice when in fact someone sees things differently to you.
You probably find someone saying you were born male and in their opinion will always be male, very hurtful but that doesn't mean it's malicious. It's just a different point of view.
If it was said just to upset you, or discriminate against you, that would be malicious. Genuinely having the opinion, however, is not malicious.
I'm actually on the side of trans- positive education, (and my comments to that end can be seen on many previous trans- related threads) but not when it attacks or belittles others and not when it's aggressive.
I'd like to see threads preaching tolerance and acceptance showing that tolerance and acceptance to all."i totally agree with this but from what i have read so far the OP does not seem to be very tolerant of people who maybe don't quite understand what it's all about. IMO it is the OP who lacks the tolerance to accept that not everyone will agree with her views but that is no bad thing, if we all had the same views about everything the world would be a pretty boring place! | |||
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"Ahhhh, now I see, attention seeking, look at me type thing, ok, each to his own " Yeah, Just like you're entitled to your opinion too, Mr. | |||
"Apparently blunt, to the point attitudes are only allowed when they agree with Jodie Interesting Wrong. what did I say above? Everyones entitled to there opinion. Sadly when those people have an opinion you are posting childish comments after it so it takes any focus away from your OP.
I believe the most childish comment came from the person that instead of focusing on the content of the post decided to be the grammer police on two words and then went on to say that guys are only agreeing becsuse they see jodie as a fantasy fuck.
Very childish.
You only need to scroll through this and see lots of couples,men and woman all thanking her for this post.
My point was that it's pompous to write an "educational" post ramming this down people's throats and yet make up words to do it.
I actually found that very funny.
I didn't like the tone of the post or the content. Calling people bigoted and brainwashed for asking questions is unacceptable.
And I used my blunt, straight to the point approach to express my view. We've established that Jodie thinks blunt, direct attitudes are a good thing and that others are entitled to disagree with her, so there should be no problem here.
Some people like the post and learned things from it. I don't like some of what was posted, or the tone, and some others feel the same as me.
This is a forum for discussion not sycophantic fapping.
Again, you, like always, take my threads out of proportion. ^^ read my last comment and let that sink in your mind. There is nothing wrong with questioning and being curious, as stated 100 times to you, the problem lie when people are evil and malice in there comments to bash and belittle trans woman and TV's.
Your OP didn't say that though. It was very offensive to people who ask questions. Clearly you didn't mean that but how is anyone else to know that?
Also, you seem to see malice when in fact someone sees things differently to you.
You probably find someone saying you were born male and in their opinion will always be male, very hurtful but that doesn't mean it's malicious. It's just a different point of view.
If it was said just to upset you, or discriminate against you, that would be malicious. Genuinely having the opinion, however, is not malicious.
I'm actually on the side of trans- positive education, (and my comments to that end can be seen on many previous trans- related threads) but not when it attacks or belittles others and not when it's aggressive.
I'd like to see threads preaching tolerance and acceptance showing that tolerance and acceptance to all.
i totally agree with this but from what i have read so far the OP does not seem to be very tolerant of people who maybe don't quite understand what it's all about. IMO it is the OP who lacks the tolerance to accept that not everyone will agree with her views but that is no bad thing, if we all had the same views about everything the world would be a pretty boring place!"Erm, theres one person whos disagreed with me and if you open your eyes and read from the start, That person and me do not see eye to eye. Always twisting my posts and making it sound like worse than it is. So, sorry, you're point there is pretty much invalid as everyone, apart from her who I was refusing to argue with, Agreed with me | |||
"Ahhhh, now I see, attention seeking, look at me type thing, ok, each to his own Yeah, Just like you're entitled to your opinion too, Mr. " Mr?? | |||
"Ahhhh, now I see, attention seeking, look at me type thing, ok, each to his own Yeah, Just like you're entitled to your opinion too, Mr. Mr??" Oh sorry, Did I misgender you there, like you did me... | |||
" i totally agree with this but from what i have read so far the OP does not seem to be very tolerant of people who maybe don't quite understand what it's all about. IMO it is the OP who lacks the tolerance to accept that not everyone will agree with her views but that is no bad thing, if we all had the same views about everything the world would be a pretty boring place! Erm, theres one person whos disagreed with me and if you open your eyes and read from the start, That person and me do not see eye to eye. Always twisting my posts and making it sound like worse than it is. So, sorry, you're point there is pretty much invalid as everyone, apart from her who I was refusing to argue with, Agreed with me "Why do you have to be so dismissive of anyone who doesn't agree with you ? When people agree you are all sweetness and light and lapping up the attention that you obviously crave, but woe betide anyone who's opinion differs from yours. They are greeted with yawns and told their thoughts are not valid. Then you cry like a child saying things like "u can't do anything right on this sure" such immature rants only belittle your opening post. | |||
"Ahhhh, now I see, attention seeking, look at me type thing, ok, each to his own Yeah, Just like you're entitled to your opinion too, Mr. Mr?? Oh sorry, Did I misgender you there, like you did me... "Never once made any personal remark to you at all, bit paranoid?? | |||
" i totally agree with this but from what i have read so far the OP does not seem to be very tolerant of people who maybe don't quite understand what it's all about. IMO it is the OP who lacks the tolerance to accept that not everyone will agree with her views but that is no bad thing, if we all had the same views about everything the world would be a pretty boring place! Erm, theres one person whos disagreed with me and if you open your eyes and read from the start, That person and me do not see eye to eye. Always twisting my posts and making it sound like worse than it is. So, sorry, you're point there is pretty much invalid as everyone, apart from her who I was refusing to argue with, Agreed with me
Why do you have to be so dismissive of anyone who doesn't agree with you ? When people agree you are all sweetness and light and lapping up the attention that you obviously crave, but woe betide anyone who's opinion differs from yours. They are greeted with yawns and told their thoughts are not valid. Then you cry like a child saying things like "u can't do anything right on this sure" such immature rants only belittle your opening post. "Again, open your eyes for fuck sake. That one person is who I don't retaliate too. ONE. Go back and read the whole of this thread then come at me. | |||
"Ahhhh, now I see, attention seeking, look at me type thing, ok, each to HIS own " ^ think you'll find you did. | |||
" i totally agree with this but from what i have read so far the OP does not seem to be very tolerant of people who maybe don't quite understand what it's all about. IMO it is the OP who lacks the tolerance to accept that not everyone will agree with her views but that is no bad thing, if we all had the same views about everything the world would be a pretty boring place! Erm, theres one person whos disagreed with me and if you open your eyes and read from the start, That person and me do not see eye to eye. Always twisting my posts and making it sound like worse than it is. So, sorry, you're point there is pretty much invalid as everyone, apart from her who I was refusing to argue with, Agreed with me
Why do you have to be so dismissive of anyone who doesn't agree with you ? When people agree you are all sweetness and light and lapping up the attention that you obviously crave, but woe betide anyone who's opinion differs from yours. They are greeted with yawns and told their thoughts are not valid. Then you cry like a child saying things like "u can't do anything right on this sure" such immature rants only belittle your opening post.
Again, open your eyes for fuck sake. That one person is who I don't retaliate too. ONE. Go back and read the whole of this thread then come at me. "I can count three. | |||
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" i totally agree with this but from what i have read so far the OP does not seem to be very tolerant of people who maybe don't quite understand what it's all about. IMO it is the OP who lacks the tolerance to accept that not everyone will agree with her views but that is no bad thing, if we all had the same views about everything the world would be a pretty boring place! Erm, theres one person whos disagreed with me and if you open your eyes and read from the start, That person and me do not see eye to eye. Always twisting my posts and making it sound like worse than it is. So, sorry, you're point there is pretty much invalid as everyone, apart from her who I was refusing to argue with, Agreed with me
Why do you have to be so dismissive of anyone who doesn't agree with you ? When people agree you are all sweetness and light and lapping up the attention that you obviously crave, but woe betide anyone who's opinion differs from yours. They are greeted with yawns and told their thoughts are not valid. Then you cry like a child saying things like "u can't do anything right on this sure" such immature rants only belittle your opening post.
Again, open your eyes for fuck sake. That one person is who I don't retaliate too. ONE. Go back and read the whole of this thread then come at me.
I can count three.
Is that how many come in your wolfpack? Lovely "Now four. In fact anyone who hasn't agreed. I was merely asking a question and now you want to have a go at me. Well played. | |||
"Ahhhh, now I see, attention seeking, look at me type thing, ok, each to HIS own ^ think you'll find you did." And how was that "misgendering" you? It's a generalisation an accepted expression like manpower, how silly and yes.....paranoid, seeing criticism where none is meant | |||
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The sex side of it though, Not all of us TS "Fuck the guy" or even allow them to touch what we have down there. I don't fuck personally :')
And yeah I guess, but sometimes some things do need to be said.
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"There are some true facts and some what i believe to be fictitious, as a gay man i do not believe straight men who go with TV/TS/TG are in it for the person thats inside especially when being fucked by the person the said gender. I have to agree labels do form part of society and what we are, some people feel better being labelled. I myself am a man yes I prefer men to woman. Though i believe i think like a man. Fuck the science its a site for fabswingers wanting to have fun, chat have fantasies about having sex with people, forget the labels and "calm down"" But labels are quite important sometimes. If Mrs P is looking for a meet there is no point in searching the profiles of straight women or gay men. | |||
"As I said in my first post, I don't know any transgenders personally, thankfully I know enough to know they don't all think and act like you do. The only thing this thread would of done is stopped me asking questions when ironically you seem to want to educate people " I said earlier you were free to ask whatever you wanted to end any curiosity, So i have no idea where you seem to think I've been rude towards you? If anything, I liked the fact you understood but wanting to gain more knowledge. Maybe I read you wrong, Like you read me wrong.. shit happens. | |||
"As I said in my first post, I don't know any transgenders personally, thankfully I know enough to know they don't all think and act like you do. The only thing this thread would of done is stopped me asking questions when ironically you seem to want to educate people " ive just read back and personally, I was nice to you agreeing and trying to make little jokes here and there to try make you laugh instated of being serious and sharp. But, I guess you've completley read me wrong. Am Sorry you think i was being rude, But noway was that my intention to you what so ever. I was trying to lighten up our convo. | |||
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"A brilliant post from what appears to be from not only an attractive ts but a very intelligent one.!!! Its very informative and factual " Thanks hun, you like many xxxx | |||
"We are on another site that has two TS on. One is an older woman who has written a very good book on her life. and who has had surgery and lives as a woman, the other still lives as a woman but for the moment has kept the penis to make some money out of it. Both of them sat in a chat room one night and answered every probing question there was going with startling honesty and not once did they say any question was inappropriate or malicious, they just kept answering. It ended in a huge discussion about it with some people giving their views that they still think they are men and that anyone who had sex with the TS that had a penis and not a vagina is at least bi. The two women had always knew that not everyone would accept that they were women but they did not tell those people that they were malicious for having that view....but what I do know is a lot of people learnt a lot that night and I think mainly because of the way they conducted themselves. " | |||
"We are on another site that has two TS on. One is an older woman who has written a very good book on her life. and who has had surgery and lives as a woman, the other still lives as a woman but for the moment has kept the penis to make some money out of it. Both of them sat in a chat room one night and answered every probing question there was going with startling honesty and not once did they say any question was inappropriate or malicious, they just kept answering. It ended in a huge discussion about it with some people giving their views that they still think they are men and that anyone who had sex with the TS that had a penis and not a vagina is at least bi. The two women had always knew that not everyone would accept that they were women but they did not tell those people that they were malicious for having that view....but what I do know is a lot of people learnt a lot that night and I think mainly because of the way they conducted themselves. "Well done to them | |||
"LOL I give up. Can't do anything right on this site. Maybe read a whole thread not just pick pointing and going on what others are saying. "i read the whole thread and i commented on the bit I agreed with...but the way you responded just proves my point anyway | |||
"LOL I give up. Can't do anything right on this site. Maybe read a whole thread not just pick pointing and going on what others are saying.
i read the whole thread and i commented on the bit I agreed with...but the way you responded just proves my point anyway"Ok. | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this.
This...
We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it.
Can one of you lovely parents adopt me? lol! xxxx"Consider yourself adopted.... Xxx | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this.
This...
We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it.
Can one of you lovely parents adopt me? lol! xxxx
Consider yourself adopted.... Xxx"Yayyy I now have two mummys :P hehe! You and giggles and her rock though are seriously amazing parents. Any son or daughter would be proud and privileged to have such accepting parents like yourselves. xxxxx | |||
"This is the first post in a year of being on the forums that has truly made me rethink my perception of sexuality . An absolutely brilliant piece of work , and in no way , shape or form is it aggressive , despite the suggestion by some . I would like to thank the op for giving me the opportunity to see things differently , and that in itself is worth the op .
glad someone else can see this.
This...
We have a gay son, he came out over 10 years ago. He has introduced us to most of his trans friends, we treat them all as his friends regardless of their gender, we see the person they are first, gender doesn't come into it.
Can one of you lovely parents adopt me? lol! xxxx
Consider yourself adopted.... Xxx
Yayyy I now have two mummys :P hehe!
You and giggles and her rock though are seriously amazing parents. Any son or daughter would be proud and privileged to have such accepting parents like yourselves. xxxxx" | |||
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Totally agree with splitting TV/TS | |||
"I, for one, am proud to be a TV. When i dress i am releasing a whole different side to my persobality and become an alternative person. However i would not want to livevor dress 24:7 in womens clothes i wear as the 6 inch heels, double D boobs, micro mini skirt and other stuff are just too inconvrnirnt. Nir do i want to wear a t shirt and jeans like mosf RGs do in normal everyday life. My transformation makes me feel wonderful, releases tensions and i allow myself to be a total slut. I embrace this and i think the OP has done a wobdefful job of explaining her and other TSs position and the challenges they face. Righg on sister xxxxx "I was worried I offended due to that girl, but thank you for clearing that up. Tried to word it as descriptive as I could. xxxx | |||
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