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Are women turned on or turned off by bi men?

By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?

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By *ctaviusStuntMan over a year ago

plymouth

you are gonna get those who like bi men and those who dont replying. I cant see how you will be any wiser or better off for asking this question. You are you at the end of the day and nothing anyone says here is gonna change that is it ?

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

The thing that offends me is people stating that the sole reason they won't meet a guy is that he's bisexual. It's sad that homophobia is present in what you would have thought would be a pretty open minded community. Imagine the grief you'd get if you said you don't meet Jewish people...

And before someone says "it's just a preference like height, body type, body hair etc" well it's not, it's a completely separate issue to physical appearance. I'm not suggesting people have to shag everyone regardless of their "preferences", just don't dress it up as something it isn't. Sure, it's their preference, it just happens to be a homophobic preference.

And I'm not complaining because these people won't meet bi guys like me, I think it's good they have that on their profiles as I probably wouldn't want to meet them anyway.

Given those sort of attitudes it's not surprising that a large number of bi guys have their sexuality listed as straight. Thankfully they're in the minority.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Quite the opposite of female bisexuality don't you think?

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By *nlyfun3Woman over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

bi sexual or straight makes no difference to me. its whether u make a physical and mental connection thats attractive

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By *uncpl2015Couple over a year ago

Bridgend Area

when you have had as many messages as we have from i men insisting that mr fun must be bi as no such thing as a straight guy as all men are gagging for cock.. you get pissed off with it and say not to the lot. Its the same with everything in live i guess the minority spoilt it for the rest. but its just easier to say no to all for us.

if men are bi and want to play with another man go for it i (mrs) have no issue with that as i am not a homophobic, however two men together is a complete turn off for me, i don't like it and not that keen on two women either. again nothing wrong with it but just doesn't float my boat.

As we are here for play fun and we are very busy in our life we only want people we are likely to have good fun with.

Far too many liars on the site granted.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Quite the opposite of female bisexuality don't you think?"

Indeed it is. I'm sure there are Sydney University students writing PHDs about it as we speak.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Makes no difference to us straight or bi

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I (female) love the idea of two men together. I would love a bi MMF. Billy is orally bi and has no interest in kissing a man and doesnt fancy them. Being comfortable around other guys and their cocks just makes things easier. What annoys us most is when straight guys assume Billy will automatically jump on their cock, thats just not how it works at all.

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By *issyyourbadWoman over a year ago

Dorset

Makes no difference bi or not if you have fun it is cool

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hear countless times from "straight" guys that the reason they put straight on their profile is because women wont meet them if they know they are bi-sexual. I should think their past rejections are not always solely based on their sexual ID tag, it could simply be they are not attracted to that person regardless of their sexual persuasion. I think you just need to be true to yourself and seek those that are likeminded, you'll have a much better time if you are all on the same page anyway

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm turned off. And even before I meet a new face I would check as much as I could regards their sexuality, through veris and forum posts.

My preference. Everyone has the right to that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It IS a preference, like any other

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"when you have had as many messages as we have from i men insisting that mr fun must be bi as no such thing as a straight guy as all men are gagging for cock.. you get pissed off with it and say not to the lot. Its the same with everything in live i guess the minority spoilt it for the rest. but its just easier to say no to all for us.

As we are here for play fun and we are very busy in our life we only want people we are likely to have good fun with.

Far too many liars on the site granted."

Really, we've never ever had a message like that in 14 years?

We don't care if a guy states straight or bi. Just like any other meet you set your parameters of what you're willing to do.

Bi guys are often easier to play straight with oddly enough as they're not going to go white as a sheet when the contact gets very close.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i would meet a bi guy for one on one but would not meet 2 bi men for mmf fun as seeing 2 guys together will do nothing for me.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

That's a shame, but surely there are more straight idiots than bi idiots just on a statistical basis?

If you met a nice, respectable, interesting guy in person and he turned out to be bi would you play with him, assuming the Mrs was interested and you were happy with the situation? Obviously I'm talking a straight MMF here where the two males would only play with the female.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Bi mmf is the best.....so much more relaxed. I've had mmf with a straight guy and I thought he was going to throw up when my husband came within 6 inches of him.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one."

No it's not, people like what they like

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I'm turned off. And even before I meet a new face I would check as much as I could regards their sexuality, through veris and forum posts.

My preference. Everyone has the right to that."

You mean like everyone has a right to sexual equality and not be judged solely on their sexuality?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It IS a preference, like any other

Agreed homophobia does not even come into it from our opinion. Just like our age and body preferences however I suppose we could then be labelled ageist and sizeist.

But we will keep on living the dream.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one.

No it's not, people like what they like"

Umm, yes it is. Homophobia is defined as negative attitudes towards anyone who defines themselves as LGBT, aversion being one example.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one.

No it's not, people like what they like"

So if I tell you I don't like Jews, what would you say?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For the record. I love bi MMF. But it's totally up to anyone else what they want or don't want

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By *uncpl2015Couple over a year ago

Bridgend Area

As we are here for play fun and we are very busy in our life we only want people we are likely to have good fun with.

Far too many liars on the site granted.

Really, we've never ever had a message like that in 14 years?

We don't care if a guy states straight or bi. Just like any other meet you set your parameters of what you're willing to do.

Bi guys are often easier to play straight with oddly enough as they're not going to go white as a sheet when the contact gets very close.

Lucky you.. We have had loads and some quite nasty with it...and advising that we must meet them as they would soon sort Mr fun out..I know which one of them would of ended eating through a straw too..

Maybe it's a Welsh thing..However all pretty much I will say were quite young as well...lol hence we done meet young either too bloomin immature.

The same sort of age group that often come out go on I will show you what your hubby clearly can't give you lol as if..

When you hear it enough times you just think bugger not considering any..

Thing is through this site we all have to have a selection process as there are so many on here.

If we met a guy away from here got on brill and wanted to play then so be it straight or bi doesn't matter as long as he didn't want to play with Mr. But that's meeting guys away from fab.

on here you can't consider all so selection process and that's one group that's out for us.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one.

No it's not, people like what they like

So if I tell you I don't like Jews, what would you say?"

It's your choice

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"For the record. I love bi MMF. But it's totally up to anyone else what they want or don't want"

You're right, it is. It's totally up to Nazis if they want to hate Jewsih people and consider them sub humans. They have that right, and it's their preference.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan over a year ago

Bradford

As someone who is openly bi on here, I don't care if a lass won't meet me. I am having too much fun. Maybe it's because I'm bi, or maybe because I wear glasses, or slight podgey belly or even because I'm ginger

Am I being heterophobic as I won't meet straight guys or couples with straight guys?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For the record. I love bi MMF. But it's totally up to anyone else what they want or don't want

You're right, it is. It's totally up to Nazis if they want to hate Jewsih people and consider them sub humans. They have that right, and it's their preference."

And now your just being bloody stupid

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS over a year ago

Rochdale

I always smile when someone says they are orally bi.

That's the same as saying someone is a little bit pregnant!

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"For the record. I love bi MMF. But it's totally up to anyone else what they want or don't want

You're right, it is. It's totally up to Nazis if they want to hate Jewsih people and consider them sub humans. They have that right, and it's their preference.

And now your just being bloody stupid"

Why? Care to elaborate? That's just another example of prejudice. I agree it's a pretty extreme one but it's a valid comparison.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one.

No it's not, people like what they like

So if I tell you I don't like Jews, what would you say?

It's your choice "

It seems it's OK for me to dislike Jews. What if then tell you I'm a member of the National Socialist Party?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just because someone doesn't want to have sex with a bi person is hardly a comparison between the Nazis and Jewish people. There's a lot of people I wouldn't want to have sex with, for various reasons but it doesn't make me "whatever phobic" or "whatever ist"

It's my choice.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The thing that offends me is people stating that the sole reason they won't meet a guy is that he's bisexual. It's sad that homophobia is present in what you would have thought would be a pretty open minded community. Imagine the grief you'd get if you said you don't meet Jewish people...

And before someone says "it's just a preference like height, body type, body hair etc" well it's not, it's a completely separate the issue to physical appearance. I'm not suggesting people have to shag everyone regardless of their "preferences", just don't dress it up as something it isn't. Sure, it's their preference, it just happens to be a homophobic preference.

And I'm not complaining because these people won't meet bi guys like me, I think it's good they have that on their profiles as I probably wouldn't want to meet them anyway.

Given those sort of attitudes it's not surprising that a large number of bi guys have their sexuality listed as straight. Thankfully they're in the minority."
This is a load of twaddle! I'm not homophobic in the slightest! I'm bi, my brother is gay, my best mate is gay, I just don't have any sexual interest in seeing men together!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Only way i can be bi around a guy is being blindfolded like my verification

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

Sorry, that should be the German National Socialist Party. (i.e. Nazi Party)

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"This is a load of twaddle! I'm not homophobic in the slightest! I'm bi, my brother is gay, my best mate is gay, I just don't have any sexual interest in seeing men together!

I'm not talking about seeing men together, that's a different topic.

I'm talking about not wanting to have sex with men solely because of the fact that they're bi.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is a load of twaddle! I'm not homophobic in the slightest! I'm bi, my brother is gay, my best mate is gay, I just don't have any sexual interest in seeing men together!

I'm not talking about seeing men together, that's a different topic.

I'm talking about not wanting to have sex with men solely because of the fact that they're bi."

Have you been turned down a lot ?

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Just because someone doesn't want to have sex with a bi person is hardly a comparison between the Nazis and Jewish people. There's a lot of people I wouldn't want to have sex with, for various reasons but it doesn't make me "whatever phobic" or "whatever ist"

It's my choice."

If the only reason someone won't sleep with someone else is that the other person is Bi then, by definition, they are homophobic. That is a fact.

Yes, it's their choice. That doesn't stop the incontrovertible fact that is a homophobic choice. It's a pretty simple concept.

If I didn't want to sleep with someone purely based on the fact that they were Jewish then that would make me a rascist. Yes, it's my choice. It's also a rascist one.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"This is a load of twaddle! I'm not homophobic in the slightest! I'm bi, my brother is gay, my best mate is gay, I just don't have any sexual interest in seeing men together!

I'm not talking about seeing men together, that's a different topic.

I'm talking about not wanting to have sex with men solely because of the fact that they're bi.

Have you been turned down a lot ?"

Have you read my first post?

(it seems not)

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am as straight as they come lol

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Yes I did. Just can't see why it's such a big deal and why you have to label people because of what they like or don't."

A question for you: Do you think it's a good thing that homophobia is present in our society?

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By *hyllyphyllyMan over a year ago

Bradford

This is getting silly....

By your logic, if you message a straight guy for a meet and he says no he is being homophobic....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Yes I did. Just can't see why it's such a big deal and why you have to label people because of what they like or don't."

A question for you: Do you think it's a good thing that homophobia is present in our society?"

Do I think it's a good thing? Is that a trick question. No I don't.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"This is getting silly....

By your logic, if you message a straight guy for a meet and he says no he is being homophobic....

It's not just me then

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By *utecontradictionMan over a year ago

Malvern

It's my choice.

If the only reason someone won't sleep with someone else is that the other person is Bi then, by definition, they are homophobic. That is a fact.

Yes, it's their choice. That doesn't stop the incontrovertible fact that is a homophobic choice. It's a pretty simple concept.

If I didn't want to sleep with someone purely based on the fact that they were Jewish then that would make me a rascist. Yes, it's my choice. It's also a rascist one."

Just as a point because it always really bugs me but it wouldn't make you a racist but i would make you antisemitic. The Jewish are not a race.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"This is getting silly....

By your logic, if you message a straight guy for a meet and he says no he is being homophobic....

Sorry, your logic is faulty. A person't sexuality is nothing to do with being homophobic or not.

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By *ohnnySwingingMan over a year ago

Portsmouth

Being bi and open get a lot who don't even entertain idea of a bi guy! Cos I'm bi doesn't mean I want to suck every cock and make every mmf into a full hands on experience.

I like a regular tag just as much as a bi one tbh. And it is a bit homophobic to discount someone on there sexuality. Isn't that the definition of homophobia?

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

It's my choice.

If the only reason someone won't sleep with someone else is that the other person is Bi then, by definition, they are homophobic. That is a fact.

Yes, it's their choice. That doesn't stop the incontrovertible fact that is a homophobic choice. It's a pretty simple concept.

If I didn't want to sleep with someone purely based on the fact that they were Jewish then that would make me a rascist. Yes, it's my choice. It's also a rascist one.

Just as a point because it always really bugs me but it wouldn't make you a racist but i would make you antisemitic. The Jewish are not a race. "

Ah, thank you for correcting me there, I knew something felt wrong about that.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Being bi and open get a lot who don't even entertain idea of a bi guy! Cos I'm bi doesn't mean I want to suck every cock and make every mmf into a full hands on experience.

I like a regular tag just as much as a bi one tbh. And it is a bit homophobic to discount someone on there sexuality. Isn't that the definition of homophobia?"

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

""Yes I did. Just can't see why it's such a big deal and why you have to label people because of what they like or don't."

A question for you: Do you think it's a good thing that homophobia is present in our society?

Do I think it's a good thing? Is that a trick question. No I don't. "

So why is it tolerated and covered up as "just a preference" on here?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Yes I did. Just can't see why it's such a big deal and why you have to label people because of what they like or don't."

A question for you: Do you think it's a good thing that homophobia is present in our society?

Do I think it's a good thing? Is that a trick question. No I don't.

So why is it tolerated and covered up as "just a preference" on here?"

Covered up !! It's not a bloody conspiracy. It is a preference. End of

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"For the record. I love bi MMF. But it's totally up to anyone else what they want or don't want

You're right, it is. It's totally up to Nazis if they want to hate Jewsih people and consider them sub humans. They have that right, and it's their preference."

I despair. I really fucking do.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

""Yes I did. Just can't see why it's such a big deal and why you have to label people because of what they like or don't."

A question for you: Do you think it's a good thing that homophobia is present in our society?

Do I think it's a good thing? Is that a trick question. No I don't.

So why is it tolerated and covered up as "just a preference" on here?"

I turned down a bi guy once. You better send me one of those "I'm a homophobe" t-shirts. I'll wear it with pride.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I'm bisexual and have never had sex with a woman who didn't fancy me. Why would I? I have sex with those that do.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

some do

some don't

nothing else needed

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have never read such utter rubbish

People who do not wish to meet bi guys ARE NOT necessarily homophobic.

For one, I agree with Frills , it is their choice their preference.

But what usually kills off this line of twaddle is when I say, bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Yes please feel free to check our profile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

For me personally id rather meet people who are honest about what they want / like.

If they dont meet my criteria or I dont meet their's then there is no point meeting them. Regardless of the reasons why. Just saves everyone's time n efffort.

But I do find openmindedness a huge turn on so i wouldnt rule out meeting bi women or bi men

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

MMF is the best (for me anyway). Whether the other male is bi or not, I am comfortable with either way. Easy going nature thats me.

I dont judge or reject, everyone is equal no matter what. Unless they are a football supporter, big head, self obsessed or won't read and accept profiles!

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By *hyllyphyllyMan over a year ago

Bradford

" bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Oh, spunk isn't meant to be neon green?

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

And I'm not complaining because these people won't meet bi guys like me, I think it's good they have that on their profiles as I probably wouldn't want to meet them anyway.

Given those sort of attitudes it's not surprising that a large number of bi guys have their sexuality listed as straight. Thankfully they're in the minority."

I won't meet bi men because I have a problem being with a man who has sucked another man's cock. It physically turns my stomach, the same as seeing two guys being physical with each other does. I've always been like this and I can't help how I feel. We are all here for fun and pleasure so I am not going to put myself in a situation that makes me feel uncomfortable or ill. That doesn't make me homophobic just clear about what I want and like and I'm not going to apologise for it.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I have never read such utter rubbish

People who do not wish to meet bi guys ARE NOT necessarily homophobic.

For one, I agree with Frills , it is their choice their preference.

But what usually kills off this line of twaddle is when I say, bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Yes please feel free to check our profile

Bi men are not necessarily a higher risk for STIs. Anyone who engages in anal sex is at a higher risk and I'm sure there are straight men on here who have had far more anal sex than the bi guys.

You are wrong. People who do not wish to meet bi guys are, BY DEFINITION, homophobic if the person's sexuality is the only reason for not meeting them.

People really need to understand what homophobia actually is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Oh, spunk isn't meant to be neon green? "

If only the affected stuff showed up like that, that would be good

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I won't meet bi men because I have a problem being with a man who has sucked another man's cock. It physically turns my stomach"

What you have described is the EXACT definition of homophobia. Look it up.

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By *hyllyphyllyMan over a year ago

Bradford

I have zero issue with this comment... none at all. I do not find this homophobic at all

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have never read such utter rubbish

People who do not wish to meet bi guys ARE NOT necessarily homophobic.

For one, I agree with Frills , it is their choice their preference.

But what usually kills off this line of twaddle is when I say, bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Yes please feel free to check our profile

Bi men are not necessarily a higher risk for STIs. Anyone who engages in anal sex is at a higher risk and I'm sure there are straight men on here who have had far more anal sex than the bi guys.

You are wrong. People who do not wish to meet bi guys are, BY DEFINITION, homophobic if the person's sexuality is the only reason for not meeting them.

People really need to understand what homophobia actually is. "

Total poppycock. Look at the NHS website and guidelines for blood donors. Are you saying the NHS are homophobic?

So far in this thread you have rejected everyone else's point of _iew. Perhaps it is you that needs to rethink this.....bearing in mind you have had answers from, us - a bi couple, a bi man and a woman who likes bi guys.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I won't meet bi men because I have a problem being with a man who has sucked another man's cock. It physically turns my stomach

What you have described is the EXACT definition of homophobia. Look it up."

I wouldn't meet Chinese or Japanese guys. Their look is unattractive to me. So I guess I'm racist

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I was deeply offended by when the comment was made about Nazi's and Jews. Just because someone does not want to sleep with you because they choose not to is hardly comparable to the systematic extermination of 7.5 million people some of whom would have been relatives to me.

People can exercise their right to choose without being labelled by his flawed logic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have never read such utter rubbish

People who do not wish to meet bi guys ARE NOT necessarily homophobic.

For one, I agree with Frills , it is their choice their preference.

But what usually kills off this line of twaddle is when I say, bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Yes please feel free to check our profile

Bi men are not necessarily a higher risk for STIs. Anyone who engages in anal sex is at a higher risk and I'm sure there are straight men on here who have had far more anal sex than the bi guys.

You are wrong. People who do not wish to meet bi guys are, BY DEFINITION, homophobic if the person's sexuality is the only reason for not meeting them.

People really need to understand what homophobia actually is.

Total poppycock. Look at the NHS website and guidelines for blood donors. Are you saying the NHS are homophobic?

You can have the baton on this one (don't know if I offend anyone by saying that) this guy is the limit

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I have never read such utter rubbish

People who do not wish to meet bi guys ARE NOT necessarily homophobic.

For one, I agree with Frills , it is their choice their preference.

But what usually kills off this line of twaddle is when I say, bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Yes please feel free to check our profile

Bi men are not necessarily a higher risk for STIs. Anyone who engages in anal sex is at a higher risk and I'm sure there are straight men on here who have had far more anal sex than the bi guys.

You are wrong. People who do not wish to meet bi guys are, BY DEFINITION, homophobic if the person's sexuality is the only reason for not meeting them.

People really need to understand what homophobia actually is.

Total poppycock. Look at the NHS website and guidelines for blood donors. Are you saying the NHS are homophobic?

OK, tell me what your definition of homophobia is because I'm just going off what the official definition is.

The NHS have that guideline because of anal sex being a riskier act in terms of STIs. In general bi and gay men are probably more likely to have anal sex than straight men, hence the restriction. In reality it is not necessarily true, particularly in light of the recent trend in anal sex becoming a more widespread practise.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I was deeply offended by when the comment was made about Nazi's and Jews. Just because someone does not want to sleep with you because they choose not to is hardly comparable to the systematic extermination of 7.5 million people some of whom would have been relatives to me.

People can exercise their right to choose without being labelled by his flawed logic. "

I think the accepted figure is more like 6 million.

And if my logic is flawed, please tell me how.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I won't meet bi men because I have a problem being with a man who has sucked another man's cock. It physically turns my stomach

What you have described is the EXACT definition of homophobia. Look it up.

I wouldn't meet Chinese or Japanese guys. Their look is unattractive to me. So I guess I'm racist

Faulty logic again. Aversion due to physical looks and aversion due to sexual orientation are two entirely separate things as I pointed out in my initial post.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have zero issue with this comment... none at all. I do not find this homophobic at all"

Preference.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

At least you agree. Good.

I'm sure you're more than capable of researching definitions of words yourself....

If per chance you come across one that states homophobia = people who refuse to meet bi or gay people for sex, please report back and let us know.

Some people

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By *aith boyMan over a year ago

Worthing

im sure it means that it's a hate of fear of gay peope.. im sure it doesnt say .. wont fuck them!!

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By *uncpl2015Couple over a year ago

Bridgend Area

Just because you dont want to have sex with bi men does not make you homophobic..get a bloody grip man..We have no issues with bi men no different to everyone else except I do not wish 59 have sex with them. My choice that's all there is to it.

I won't play with coloured or Asian guys they do nothing for I won't play with large overweight men does nothing for me my choice nothing wrong with them just don't want sex with them..

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Just because you dont want to have sex with bi men does not make you homophobic..get a bloody grip man..We have no issues with bi men no different to everyone else except I do not wish 59 have sex with them. My choice that's all there is to it.

I won't play with coloured or Asian guys they do nothing for I won't play with large overweight men does nothing for me my choice nothing wrong with them just don't want sex with them.."

How many times do I have to say that it has NOTHING to do with physicality or sexual orientation.

If the SOLE reason you won't have sex with someone is that they are bi then by the official definition you are homophobic.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"im sure it means that it's a hate of fear of gay peope"

No, that's not the whole definition but it does encompass that particular aspect. As well as hate it also includes antipathy, contempt, prejudice and aversion. And it's not just gay people, it includes all LGBT people.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have no problem with anyone's sexuality, but bi guys do not turn me on at all x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People can exercise their right to choose without being labelled by his flawed logic.

I think the accepted figure is more like 6 million.

And if my logic is flawed, please tell me how."

I think you will find from certain Jewish perspectives it's more like seven and not just a quick Keyboard warrior google search.

Either way it's still offensive that you said it.

You preach tolerance yet seem to find the comparison acceptable.

Will leave you to it.

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By *aith boyMan over a year ago

Worthing

then i am homophobic.. i wont have sex with a bi man... erm.. or my mum.. erm etc.. maybe you get the picture... or maybe you are soo egocentric, this is your idea of heaven.. ooooh the emotion of it all !!

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

People can exercise their right to choose without being labelled by his flawed logic.

I think the accepted figure is more like 6 million.

And if my logic is flawed, please tell me how.

I think you will find from certain Jewish perspectives it's more like seven and not just a quick Keyboard warrior google search.

Either way it's still offensive that you said it.

You preach tolerance yet seem to find the comparison acceptable.

Will leave you to it. "

You are confusing using my use of an analogy about prejudice with condoning it. And I can assure you I have read a great deal of military history regarding WW2 and don't remember seeing numbers of Jewish deaths being over about 6 million in general. But that's beside the point.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"then i am homophobic.. i wont have sex with a bi man... erm.. or my mum.. erm etc.. maybe you get the picture... or maybe you are soo egocentric, this is your idea of heaven.. ooooh the emotion of it all !!"

If your sexual orientation indicates that you wouldn't normally have sex with a man then not doing so does not make you homophobic. If, on the other hand, your sexual orientation indicates that you would normally have sex with a man but you don't, purely on the grounds that they are bisexual, then that is homophobic to one extent or another.

Sorry, I'm not sure what you're getting at with the egocentric reference, you'll have to be more clear.

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS over a year ago

Rochdale

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By *ittleBitOfFunCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

I won't play with coloured or Asian guys they do nothing for I won't play with large overweight men does nothing for me my choice nothing wrong with them just don't want sex with them..

How many times do I have to say that it has NOTHING to do with physicality or sexual orientation.

If the SOLE reason you won't have sex with someone is that they are bi then by the official definition you are homophobic."

I completely disagree. If someone chooses not to meet a bi person, it's their preference and doesn't mean they are homophobic. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions. You can have gay friends but choose not to have sex with bi people as it is a completely different situation

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By *entfootloverMan over a year ago

Sevenoaks

I think this might also have something to do with the woman's perception of the bi male being dom or sub.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I completely disagree. If someone chooses not to meet a bi person, it's their preference and doesn't mean they are homophobic. Everyone is entitled to their personal opinions. "

If the only reason they won't meet them is that they're Bi then I'm afraid that's exactly what it means. They have an aversion to that person purely on the basis that they are Bi. That is the exact definition of homophobia. Look it up.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I think this might also have something to do with the woman's perception of the bi male being dom or sub."

I'm not sure how that would come into it? Care to elaborate?

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By *ittleBitOfFunCouple over a year ago

Cardiff

We have different opinions regarding the definition of homophobia then. If a couple decides not to meet us because I'm bisexual I wouldn't think they are being homophobic. I would think that the other girl in the couple just doesn't feel comfortable being around a bi female. This has happened before and it didn't bother me at all as it was their personal preference.

This is obviously something you feel strongly about. I can't stand homophobia but in my opinion I don't think this is so I will agree to disagree

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"bi sexual or straight makes no difference to me. its whether u make a physical and mental connection thats attractive"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well we are looking for a delicious kinky, fit Bi male to join us for regular meets mmmmmm yummy xxx

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"We have different opinions regarding the definition of homophobia then. "

My opinion has nothing to do with it, I'm going by the official definition of homophobia. I don't know how people don't understand this.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Love bi men. Huge turn on. Bi mmf for me please?

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

Then I'm homophobic if I fall into the definition. Forget that I have gay friends who I happily chat with and have no problem seeing them with their partners. I just don't want to see them fucking or anything else sexual. It revolts me, just as seeing pics of cum oozing out of a pussy revolts me, as do hairy backs.,.......... The list is endless. It's my personal preference and if that makes me a homophobe or and anything else phobe, so be it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The definition from the oxford dictionary for homophobia is as follows:-

An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

I was at my gay friends wedding lady week, I have campaigned for years for single sex marriage and many times I've sat in the jacuzzi at done club with bi & gay men and women. So I think that demonstrates I have no irrational or extreme aversion to homosexual people. I do however choose not to meet bi guys.....why? Because I'm greedy and I don't like to share and not for any other reason.

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

"On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?"

Sorry to cause a stir here but my original quote asked some very basic questions, if you want to have a conversation about how many Jews were killed or definitions of words why not start a new topic????? Does anybody care about the original question? Happy swinging a guys and gals. Shaun x

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

"On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?"

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

"On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?"

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

"On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?"

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

"On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?"

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

I don't meet bi men, married men, short men, young men, black men...get it?!! You'll not appeal to everyone. Accept that, don't ask people to justify their choices, have dignity and look for those looking for you and leave people to get naked with who they want, and get over it if it doesn't include you.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

"I don't meet bi men, married men, short men, young men, black men...get it?!! You'll not appeal to everyone. Accept that, don't ask people to justify their choices, have dignity and look for those looking for you and leave people to get naked with who they want, and get over it if it doesn't include you."

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

what a load of fucking nonsense.

honestly, some women do, some women don't.

no further justification needed.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"On my profile I consider myself bisexual. I am orally bi and beyond this do not fancy men at all. Some women have said they don't do bisexual men.

I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?

Many men here say they are straight but are actually bisexual. What is better, to be with a straight liar, or an honest bi guy!

Any thoughts?

Sorry for the hijack op.

And the answer to your question is be happy with who you are. There is plenty for you here. That's the beauty of freedom of choice.

Happy swinging indeed.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

And I'm not complaining because these people won't meet bi guys like me, I think it's good they have that on their profiles as I probably wouldn't want to meet them anyway.

Given those sort of attitudes it's not surprising that a large number of bi guys have their sexuality listed as straight. Thankfully they're in the minority."

Bollocks!

I don't meet bi men any more (note the "any more" as they don't fit with how I play: has fuck all to do with being homophobic!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"what a load of fucking nonsense.

honestly, some women do, some women don't.

no further justification needed.

I thought that would have been a forgone conclusion....obviously not

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By *hyllyphyllyMan over a year ago

Bradford

"what a load of fucking nonsense.

honestly, some women do, some women don't.

no further justification needed.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"what a load of fucking nonsense.

honestly, some women do, some women don't.

no further justification needed.

I thought that would have been a forgone conclusion....obviously not

sometimes it is like sulking childen 'they won't play with me, they won't play with me'...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I am one of the ones who refuses to meet bi guys, the thought of seeing two men together doesn't actually do it for me.

Your sexuality is your choice , but if you came back to me and said I was homophobic, I'd have to tell you that I have a gay son, lots of gay friends, and if I thought I was going to get messaged be either lesbians or gays, I would make the same comment on my profile.

I am the least homophobic person you'll meet.

So it's ok for people to specify age = Agism

Figure measurements?

I'm amazed we haven't had an uprising from the BBC saying that they don't have huge tackle.

In short, get over it !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Maybe women dont want a cock thats been sucked on by other men, or cud have been in a mans arse. Or maybe womem dont wanna kiss a man whos kissed other men. Thats their prerogotive

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

My research is now complete. My profile will read ''straight'. Seemingly it is better to be a straight liar than an honest bi guy!!!! Many thanks fabswingers. Happy swinging!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

i wouldnt say i was turned on by bi men at all on here but most of them are, i do like gay men because they are more atractive.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I don't get offended by people who say they don't like bi men. It's their choice and sexual preference. I don't see it as bi-phobic, just bi-no thanks. I just have sex with thise that say bi-yes please. Much less stress.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

"Maybe women dont want a cock thats been sucked on by other men, or cud have been in a mans arse. Or maybe womem dont wanna kiss a man whos kissed other men. Thats their prerogotive"

^^^^^^ this

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

"My research is now complete. My profile will read ''straight'. Seemingly it is better to be a straight liar than an honest bi guy!!!! Many thanks fabswingers. Happy swinging!!!!"

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

Sorry for lack of response, took a shag break. I'll catch up....

Always good to see so many people people jumping in with knee jerk reactions and ignoring what has actually been written in previous (mainly my first) posts.

As I stated in my VERY FIRST POST I'm not complaining that I can't meet people who won't meet bi guys. Far from it, they're doing my filtering job for me as I don't want to meet homophobes.

Scottishsexgoddess said:

"It's my personal preference and if that makes me a homophobe or and anything else phobe, so be it."

At least one person can own up to it. That's all I'm asking, is that people recognise it for what it is.

Miss Minxy said:

"The definition from the oxford dictionary for homophobia is as follows:-

An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

I do however choose not to meet bi guys.....why? Because I'm greedy and I don't like to share and not for any other reason."

That Oxford definition is an accurate but very narrow and limited definition and only mentions homosexuality.

You don't want to share? That makes no sense. Surely you're "sharing" straight guys with the other women they fuck?

Miss_tress said:

"I don't meet bi men any more (note the "any more" as they don't fit with how I play: has fuck all to do with being homophobic!"

Don't fit with how you play??? How is a bi guy any different from a straight guy when it comes to sex with a woman?

(I'm assuming you're a straight, single woman as I can't see your profile)

View said:

"sometimes it is like sulking childen 'they won't play with me, they won't play with me'..."

Someone who doesn't actually read posts before typing obviously. I'll make it easy for you as you seemingly struggle with reading comprehension; try reading my first post.

Cougar1x said:

"Figure measurements?"

Another person who doesn't actually read posts before typing. You'd have seen that I've already pointed out the flaw with that line of reasoning several times if you'd bothered to read my posts.

TrueLad said:

"Maybe women dont want a cock thats been sucked on by other men, or cud have been in a mans arse. Or maybe womem dont wanna kiss a man whos kissed other men. Thats their prerogotive"

Yes, it's called being homophobic. Again, try reading what's been written. There is no difference between a straight man's cock (that's quite likely been in women's arses) and a bi man's cock.

(unless either of them have been having unsafe sex but that's a different argument)

I'm sure plenty of the women who are disgusted by bi men have had bi men's cocks in your various orifices and were happy about it at the time. So the issue is that you know. Which only goes to highlight the fact that you have an irrational aversion to bi men, at least when it comes to physical contact. And guess what that makes you? Anyone?

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

Oh and interestingly I've asked someone who's studying a doctorate in psychology who has a great deal of interest in this area and they agree with my assertions. But what do they know...

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

Cherry picking other people's quotes in order to form a response is very naughty, because taking something out of context can alter their original meaning.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It depends on the individual but more off than on I would say.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *.nottsbloke..Man over a year ago

the vale

Had a women turn me down saying she won't meet bi men because she has a young son. I thought that was a bit odd

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

"Oh and interestingly I've asked someone who's studying a doctorate in psychology who has a great deal of interest in this area and they agree with my assertions. But what do they know...

oh well that clears that up for us all: thank you and thank to your friend.

I did read your postings and my opinion was 'what a load of pish' and that hasn't changed. I am very happy for you to think similar of mine.

All the best though

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

thanks*

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

but I would agree that there may be a small amount of homophobic people on this site, it reflects everyday life.

The rest, just don't want to play with bi guys as it does not sexually excite them, they consider them a higher sexual risk and a ton more reasons.

I will never justify my preferences on here, NEVER. I will never ask someone else to either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"but I would agree that there may be a small amount of homophobic people on this site, it reflects everyday life.

The rest, just don't want to play with bi guys as it does not sexually excite them, they consider them a higher sexual risk and a ton more reasons.

I will never justify my preferences on here, NEVER. I will never ask someone else to either."

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

"but I would agree that there may be a small amount of homophobic people on this site, it reflects everyday life.

The rest, just don't want to play with bi guys as it does not sexually excite them, they consider them a higher sexual risk and a ton more reasons.

I will never justify my preferences on here, NEVER. I will never ask someone else to either."

Maybe I should just have stepped away from the keyboard on this one!

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By *riendly foeWoman over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"but I would agree that there may be a small amount of homophobic people on this site, it reflects everyday life.

The rest, just don't want to play with bi guys as it does not sexually excite them, they consider them a higher sexual risk and a ton more reasons.

I will never justify my preferences on here, NEVER. I will never ask someone else to either."

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By *riendly foeWoman over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"My research is now complete. My profile will read ''straight'. Seemingly it is better to be a straight liar than an honest bi guy!!!! Many thanks fabswingers. Happy swinging!!!!"

Im obviously not a bi guy....

But I can assure you that if I was, I wouldnt be changing anything JUST to suit others!!!

Why would you want to meet someone who doesnt like your sexual preferences???

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By *riendly foeWoman over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one."

That is complete BOLLOX!

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I did read your postings and my opinion was 'what a load of pish' and that hasn't changed. "

Well if you did read them that makes it even worse because you ignored what I said and proceeded to suggest I was complaining about not being able to meet these people when I clearly stated in my first post that was not the case.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"It IS a preference, like any other

That's what I said, it IS a preference. It just happens to be a homophobic one.

That is complete BOLLOX!

What an awesomely persuasive and well thought out argument. That's completely changed my whole perception of this discussion.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"My research is now complete. My profile will read ''straight'. Seemingly it is better to be a straight liar than an honest bi guy!!!! Many thanks fabswingers. Happy swinging!!!!

Im obviously not a bi guy....

But I can assure you that if I was, I wouldnt be changing anything JUST to suit others!!!

Why would you want to meet someone who doesnt like your sexual preferences???

Well said.

Some people posting in here seem to struggle with that concept. That's much better than emotive denial of a counter position.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Someone said very similar to this before about the issue of colour and I can't get my head around a sexual preference being an automatic ism. (in the majority of cases that is, clearly life has racism, sexism etc)

Our sexual preferences are I believe often set very early in life with childhood experiences shaping our desires on a subconscious level, so much that it's a trigger, instinctive. We enter adulthood and experiment and expand our repertoire but certain core truths will probably remain. For me the pale, tall slim man I crave is directly related to early life.

Everything else that I develop a taste for but sorry to be base, my eyes see something, my brain interprets it and it either makes me wet or it doesn't.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Cherry picking other people's quotes in order to form a response is very naughty, because taking something out of context can alter their original meaning."

Well I didn't fully quote everyone fully for expediency as people seem to be either not reading or choosing to ignore a lot of posts. But if they'd read the whole thread they'd have seen the original post in full anyway.

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By *riendly foeWoman over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

That is complete BOLLOX!

What an awesomely persuasive and well thought out argument. That's completely changed my whole perception of this discussion."

Wasnt an argument...

Was a statement!

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By *issHottieBottieWoman over a year ago

Kent

I would rather not play with bi guys, the thought of 2 guys playing together does nothing for me and i don't really want those images going through my head at the time.

However one of my best friends is gay, another gay and married, my sons uncle is gay, I have no problem with other men and woman doing what they want with who they want AT ALL.. I'm bi curious myself. So I'm definitely not homophobic... Homophobic is irrational and preconceived prejudice against homosexuals. I don't have that. I know what I don't want to meet them, and the reasons are not irrational or preconceived.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Someone said very similar to this before about the issue of colour and I can't get my head around a sexual preference being an automatic ism. (in the majority of cases that is, clearly life has racism, sexism etc)

Everything else that I develop a taste for but sorry to be base, my eyes see something, my brain interprets it and it either makes me wet or it doesn't."

Yes, I agree that we are shaped from a young age by society regarding our attitudes to sexuality. In regards to that I would point out that up until the late 1960's, same gender sex was illegal in this country.

But you're also talking about physical attraction which, I will say for about the fourth time, has nothing to do with this discussion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The idea of bi guys is a turn off for me so I tend to not meet them. It's nothing to do with homophobia (I flat share with an amaaaaazing lesbian couple) it's just my sexual preference that even I can't rationally explain.

Horses for courses...

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I would rather not play with bi guys, the thought of 2 guys playing together does nothing for me and i don't really want those images going through my head at the time.

When you say "does nothing for me" what exactly do you mean? What is your reaction or feelings towards thoughts of two men having sex?

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"The idea of bi guys is a turn off for me so I tend to not meet them. It's nothing to do with homophobia (I flat share with an amaaaaazing lesbian couple) it's just my sexual preference that even I can't rationally explain.

Horses for courses...

So if you can't rationally explain it that means it's irrational. So you've just admitted you have an irrational aversion to bi men. Have you read the definition of homophobia? Because I think you'll find that it's exactly what you just described.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"I did read your postings and my opinion was 'what a load of pish' and that hasn't changed.

'sometimes it is like sulking children 'they won't play with me, they won't play with me'...'

I don't believe I did suggest you, this thread is not all about you.

I am drawing on a few years of reading these types of threads and the petulance of bi guys getting the hump in not being included in every bodies 'preferences'

I say the same to the whimperings of some of the married guys/ladies.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

That is complete BOLLOX!

What an awesomely persuasive and well thought out argument. That's completely changed my whole perception of this discussion.

Wasnt an argument...

Was a statement!

And a completely pointless one. So thanks for that.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everything else that I develop a taste for but sorry to be base, my eyes see something, my brain interprets it and it either makes me wet or it doesn't.

But you're also talking about physical attraction which, I will say for about the fourth time, has nothing to do with this discussion."

As a 70's baby that doesn't shape my _iew at all, so it isn't simply a case of confirming for me, sorry as I think you're inferring it's society that defined my kinks, it isn't. Interestingly I started going to Manchester's gay village aged 13 with my brother and cousin so had an unusual adolescence to say the least. For reasons I do not to this day understand I found the men kissing very erotic, but not the women. And when I got the chance to experiment the same was true for my own reality. There is no application of logic and to this day two men turns me on far more than two women. It doesn't mean I am inherently phobic of lesbians.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I did read your postings and my opinion was 'what a load of pish' and that hasn't changed.

'sometimes it is like sulking children 'they won't play with me, they won't play with me'...'

I don't believe I did suggest you, this thread is not all about you.

I am drawing on a few years of reading these types of threads and the petulance of bi guys getting the hump in not being included in every bodies 'preferences'

I say the same to the whimperings of some of the married guys/ladies.

Oh please, you're just being disingenuous now. Your post was in agreement with a post that was directly referencing one of mine.

And why even bring that up when it was remarked upon very clearly early in the thread that that was not the reason for the comments? It is not relevant.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

some people don't want to shag you, or me because of our sexuality: get over it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Troll feeding time is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Ok guy. I'm homophobic.

Your rants only encourage my feelings.

Suck it up!

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Interestingly I started going to Manchester's gay village aged 13 with my brother and cousin so had an unusual adolescence to say the least. For reasons I do not to this day understand I found the men kissing very erotic, but not the women. And when I got the chance to experiment the same was true for my own reality. There is no application of logic and to this day two men turns me on far more than two women. It doesn't mean I am inherently phobic of lesbians."

No but you're not saying that as a straight woman you find that the idea of two women kissing offends your sensibilities in some way either so it's not very relevant to the discussion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Troll feeding time is it?"

I think you've hit the nail on the head there lol

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"some people don't want to shag you, or me because of our sexuality: get over it.

Well thanks for reinforcing the fact that you're ignoring everything I say.

I'm a patient person so I will persevere in the face of your ignorance, willful or otherwise.

I have NO, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA interest in having sex with someone who finds the idea of two men having sex to be offensive to them.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

"some people don't want to shag you, or me because of our sexuality: get over it.

Well thanks for reinforcing the fact that you're ignoring everything I say.

I'm a patient person so I will persevere in the face of your ignorance, willful or otherwise.

I have NO, ZERO, ZIP, ZILCH, NADA interest in having sex with someone who finds the idea of two men having sex to be offensive to them."

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Troll feeding time is it?"

Would you care to elaborate on why you think I'm trolling? I'm being perfectly serious here.

Or would you even care to add your thoughts to the discussion rather than just casting random aspersions.

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By *haunlewis OP Man over a year ago

St helier

Notthereal01 - this was my original post and you gave seemingly turned it from a light hearted forum post into a irrational argument about homophobia and the like. Seems to me that you actually enjoy arguing more than fucking!!!!

For the record fabpeeps, I have no issue with being turned down because I am bi, the same as I turn people down for other reasons (not often though!!!!). These forums are great but some people could have an argument in a paper bag. S x

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

Actually I think there's a valid question being asked.

No one's really said what's so off putting about a man being bi. Just vague reasons like 'I don't like the idea of it'.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

I was born in 1960 and brought up in an very tolerant household where there were never any negative comments about anything at all, whether it was religion, race, sport or sex. I honestly don't know why it bothers me. At the end of the day, what people do behind closed doors is their business, I just don't want to meet bi men for the reason I have already stated. Exceptionally hairy/overweight men have the same effect on me. I just can't understand why I would be classed as homophobic because I won't have sex with a bisexual man. To me, I would be a homophobic if I didn't want to have anything whatsoever to do with gay men/women. That isn't the case. I am now going off into a corner cos my head hurt!

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

"Actually I think there's a valid question being asked.

No one's really said what's so off putting about a man being bi. Just vague reasons like 'I don't like the idea of it'."

I don't think I was vague at all about my reason for not wanting to meet bi men.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

"Notthereal01 - this was my original post and you gave seemingly turned it from a light hearted forum post into a irrational argument about homophobia and the like. Seems to me that you actually enjoy arguing more than fucking!!!!

Lol. I have to say that I wish I could get over my own issue as there are some lovely bi men out there and I am no doubt missing out on a lot of fun.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"Actually I think there's a valid question being asked.

No one's really said what's so off putting about a man being bi. Just vague reasons like 'I don't like the idea of it'."

Exactly. Lots of people saying I'm full of shit, or it is because it is. Very little in the way of actual logical arguments.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

Lol. I have to say that I wish I could get over my own issue as there are some lovely bi men out there and I am no doubt missing out on a lot of fun.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Interestingly I started going to Manchester's gay village aged 13 with my brother and cousin so had an unusual adolescence to say the least. For reasons I do not to this day understand I found the men kissing very erotic, but not the women. And when I got the chances to experiment the same was true for my own reality. There is no application of logic and to this day two men turns me on far more than two women. It doesn't mean I am inherently phobic of lesbians.

No but you're not saying that as a straight woman you find that the idea of two women kissing offends your sensibilities in some way either so it's not very relevant to the discussion."

I don't think most of than people here have said it offends their sensibilities (a couple maybe) most have said it just doesn't get them sexually aroused which isn't the same thing. You're making a massive personal leap of judgement from not being aroused to being offended by. Gushing doesn't arouse me, not does it offend. Muscle doesn't arouse me, nor does it offend.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I love to see men together, I watch gay porn all the time. Would love a mmf with 2 black men, or a mmf with a black Dom and white sub male...the last 2 fantasies on my bucket list...

If anyone reading can help...holla..!!!

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

I don't think most of than people here have said it offends their sensibilities (a couple maybe) most have said it just doesn't get them sexually aroused which isn't the same thing. "

Not being interested in man on man action is a reason not to have a bi MMF.

It's not a reason for a woman to turn down one on one sex with a bi guy.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

While I do enjoy a good argument you may or may not have noticed that in one of my posts I apologised for not replying sooner because I was busy having sex. So I think your accusation is somewhat harsh.

And this whole discussion has been directly addressing one of your questions:

"I am confused, as a one on one with a female there would be no issue with being bisexual, would there?"

So I fail to see why you are complaining?

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By *litterbabeWoman over a year ago

hiding from cock pics.

I have a preference for bi men and women x

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By *issHottieBottieWoman over a year ago

Kent

"I would rather not play with bi guys, the thought of 2 guys playing together does nothing for me and i don't really want those images going through my head at the time.

When you say "does nothing for me" what exactly do you mean? What is your reaction or feelings towards thoughts of two men having sex?"

That if that's what they wanna do with one another then that's fine, just not something I want to be involved in or think about, my gay friend says the thought of a heterosexual couple getting it on creeps him out, I've seen him turn away from couples kissing in nightclubs. Doesn't mean I think any less of them, or think they shouldn't be together, or that bi/gay guys shouldn't have the same rights as anyone else.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

I don't think most of than people here have said it offends their sensibilities (a couple maybe) most have said it just doesn't get them sexually aroused which isn't the same thing.

Not being interested in man on man action is a reason not to have a bi MMF.

It's not a reason for a woman to turn down one on one sex with a bi guy. "

I think I said why I turn down bi men. The thought that he has been with a man turns me totally off and would not lead to a successful meet. Who knows? I may one day change my stance on that, but at the moment, I just haven't been able to "cross that bridge" so to speak. That's my problem, but I am happy with my life, so will keep on doing what I am doing.

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I don't think most of than people here have said it offends their sensibilities (a couple maybe) most have said it just doesn't get them sexually aroused which isn't the same thing. You're making a massive personal leap of judgement from not being aroused to being offended by. Gushing doesn't arouse me, not does it offend. Muscle doesn't arouse me, nor does it offend."

A number of people have specifically stated that's exactly their reasoning and that's what I'm primarily taking issue with. Most people are parroting "it's just my preference" and not specifying reasons for their preference.

And once more with your muscle reference you're introducing physical characteristics into the equation which have nothing to do with this discussion.

And if something neither offends nor arouses you then surely it's not a reason to discount someone as a potential meet?

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By *otTheReal01Man over a year ago

London

"I think I said why I turn down bi men. The thought that he has been with a man turns me totally off and would not lead to a successful meet. Who knows? I may one day change my stance on that, but at the moment, I just haven't been able to "cross that bridge" so to speak. That's my problem, but I am happy with my life, so will keep on doing what I am doing. "

As long as you recognise that it is a problem then that's a good thing.

None of us are perfect. I'd just like it if more people accepted that it is a problem.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

And once more with your muscle reference you're introducing physical characteristics into the equation which have nothing to do with this discussion.

And if something neither offends nor arouses you then surely it's not a reason to discount someone as a potential meet?"

Maybe that's the case for you, I never meet anyone that doesn't already arouse me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I have never read such utter rubbish

People who do not wish to meet bi guys ARE NOT necessarily homophobic.

For one, I agree with Frills , it is their choice their preference.

But what usually kills off this line of twaddle is when I say, bi men are in a higher risk group for STIs. So why play with bi guys if you don't need to.

Yes please feel free to check our profile

Bi men are not necessarily a higher risk for STIs. Anyone who engages in anal sex is at a higher risk and I'm sure there are straight men on here who have had far more anal sex than the bi guys.

You are wrong. People who do not wish to meet bi guys are, BY DEFINITION, homophobic if the person's sexuality is the only reason for not meeting them.

People really need to understand what homophobia actually is.

Total poppycock. Look at the NHS website and guidelines for blood donors. Are you saying the NHS are homophobic?

As a bi guy I agree I probably am at a higher risk of catching an sti than a straight non swinger.

However, according to our clinic, they see no higher incidence if sti's in bi guys than swingers and they see a surprising number of both.

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman over a year ago

Glenrothes

With my experiences, I am beginning to think I get attracted/aroused by the totally wrong type of man and it doesn't go well in the long run. Maybe it is time to change tack in all directions! lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Have you got a suggestion for changing things then, I've read a few ladies in here mention they don't want to meet bi-men because the thought of men being sexual with one another turns their stomach, how do you change a persons feelings ?

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