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"Dear All, On my day-off, I watched 'This Morning' [ITV] & what got me was an inter_iew with... Rachel Dilley (aged 58). The Inter_iew was about how at aged 48, Ms. Dilley got HIV via unprotected Sex. She believed that only Black Africans could get this tragic disease hence her going bareback with a man she had just met You can watch her worrying but also brave inter_iew via YouTube, am sure a search of... Rachel Dilley This Morning March 2014 HIV Will get you their also, a number of articles have been made about the actual inter_iew. Now on to Fab... I've noticed in the past 12mths, month on month an increase in Unprotected Sex Meets or Bareback. The majority are Gangbang variety in which Male Participants are requested to ejaculate inside one Woman... This is highly dangerous behaviour & in light of what I've watched on Daytime Television; the impacts last for a life-time. Therefore, I would like the owners of Fab... this Website to now ban the open promotion of Bareback meets. Also, if meets arranged via this site suddenly become Bareback at the actual meet then those arranging it should be banned. What do you think reader, agree or disagree but please search YouTube for Ms. Dilley's story in her own words. Better safe than sorry." Yeah, let's all do what you want. | |||
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"Why just not take away all our human rights and be done with it!!!!" I'll take away yours... Gimp suit and locked in my basement...sex slave!!! Mwa-ha-ha!! | |||
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"ban all who want unsafe sex" So does thay include greedy girls and those that do oral without? And there is No such thing as safe sex | |||
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"Dear All, On my day-off, I watched 'This Morning' [ITV] & what got me was an inter_iew with... Rachel Dilley (aged 58). The Inter_iew was about how at aged 48, Ms. Dilley got HIV via unprotected Sex. She believed that only Black Africans could get this tragic disease hence her going bareback with a man she had just met You can watch her worrying but also brave inter_iew via YouTube, am sure a search of... Rachel Dilley This Morning March 2014 HIV Will get you their also, a number of articles have been made about the actual inter_iew. Now on to Fab... I've noticed in the past 12mths, month on month an increase in Unprotected Sex Meets or Bareback. The majority are Gangbang variety in which Male Participants are requested to ejaculate inside one Woman... This is highly dangerous behaviour & in light of what I've watched on Daytime Television; the impacts last for a life-time. Therefore, I would like the owners of Fab... this Website to now ban the open promotion of Bareback meets. Also, if meets arranged via this site suddenly become Bareback at the actual meet then those arranging it should be banned. What do you think reader, agree or disagree but please search YouTube for Ms. Dilley's story in her own words. Better safe than sorry." O my god I just watched a man cross the road and he got hit by a car !!! Fab i think you should ban all meets that may lead to you having to cross the road !! And if you go to meet someone and that person hasn't made a parking space on there side of the road avalable you should contact fabs and that person will get band . | |||
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"No, it's just this site donates money to World's AIDS Day, each 1st December. They have a banner celebrating this when you log-in. Therefore, if they do this with the Red Ribbon then why simply make this site 100% Safe Sex. Do you not see, that people arranging via the Meets, Events section for a Woman to have as many as 20 Men cumming in her isn't reckless behaviour....!!! " it's there choice though and I'm sure people think having multiple partners full stop is reckless | |||
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"how do you know if they got aids as only a blood test can tell you that no smell no rash" you don't that's the point and if they are sleeping with everyone that asks they would need to be tested constantly | |||
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"OP... You don't have safe sex as an interest and you say you want to deliver yummy spunk to women and couples. Is that delivering it inside a condom?" Maybe, after seeing Rachel Dilley on 'This Morning' I've been reflecting on my own behaviour. You are correct, yet the power of that inter_iew has made me think deeply. | |||
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"A bukkake is risky yet greater risk is a Man spunking in a Woman unprotected." You know it's easier to catch something from the eyes than through inside ? | |||
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"A bukkake is risky yet greater risk is a Man spunking in a Woman unprotected." So your risky behaviour is ok. But everyone else should stop theirs. Ok then | |||
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"Dear All, On my day-off, I watched 'This Morning' [ITV] & what got me was an inter_iew with... Rachel Dilley (aged 58). The Inter_iew was about how at aged 48, Ms. Dilley got HIV via unprotected Sex. She believed that only Black Africans could get this tragic disease hence her going bareback with a man she had just met You can watch her worrying but also brave inter_iew via YouTube, am sure a search of... Rachel Dilley This Morning March 2014 HIV Will get you their also, a number of articles have been made about the actual inter_iew. Now on to Fab... I've noticed in the past 12mths, month on month an increase in Unprotected Sex Meets or Bareback. The majority are Gangbang variety in which Male Participants are requested to ejaculate inside one Woman... This is highly dangerous behaviour & in light of what I've watched on Daytime Television; the impacts last for a life-time. Therefore, I would like the owners of Fab... this Website to now ban the open promotion of Bareback meets. Also, if meets arranged via this site suddenly become Bareback at the actual meet then those arranging it should be banned. What do you think reader, agree or disagree but please search YouTube for Ms. Dilley's story in her own words. Better safe than sorry. O my god I just watched a man cross the road and he got hit by a car !!! Fab i think you should ban all meets that may lead to you having to cross the road !! And if you go to meet someone and that person hasn't made a parking space on there side of the road avalable you should contact fabs and that person will get band . " | |||
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"you can't enforce safe sex especially just for NSA sex, i've met plenty of people who love bareback, but i always check and double check if they are safe, i'll always be honest with someone about my sexual health, lying bastards are the real problem." Can you explain how you check and double check please? The only "proof" I have is a text from the clap clinic which confirms I was clear on dd/mm/yyyy approx 2 weeks after my tests...I guess I could fake this quite easily, I also could be regularly tested but play BB all the time and just be lucky, or I could be harbouring a nasty bug having had sex a coupla days after my tests (condoms are safer, not bullet proof) I'll never condemn anyone for choosing BB, but I do think it's a bit naive to think you can ever know that person you fuck is disease free | |||
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"Also, the hit by a Car connection isn't clever or adding anything to this argument. Allow me... Is, it right for people on this site one that donates money to a charity that promote Safe Sex to place adverts for Unprotected Sex. Now, this can't be stopped yet surely if a ban was placed on Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think about that), it would be responsible behaviour. Time for a change, me thinks. " | |||
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"Also, the hit by a Car connection isn't clever or adding anything to this argument. Allow me... Is, it right for people on this site one that donates money to a charity that promote Safe Sex to place adverts for Unprotected Sex. Now, this can't be stopped yet surely if a ban was placed on Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think about that), it would be responsible behaviour. Time for a change, me thinks. " Fabs cannot possibly check every meet/party/forum post/pm. People could easily advertise a meet then pm people who show interest saying it's bare. How would fabs know?? Pics can't be policed as who's to say the bare pics aren't with a partner etc??? | |||
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"A bukkake is risky yet greater risk is a Man spunking in a Woman unprotected. You know it's easier to catch something from the eyes than through inside ?" I didn't know that... Yet, it make logic as the eyes are directly connected to the Brain that in-turn is connected to everything in the Human Body. That's really interesting especially in case of Bukkake. | |||
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"Also, the hit by a Car connection isn't clever or adding anything to this argument. Allow me... Is, it right for people on this site one that donates money to a charity that promote Safe Sex to place adverts for Unprotected Sex. Now, this can't be stopped yet surely if a ban was placed on Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think about that), it would be responsible behaviour. Time for a change, me thinks. " Good for the site (I didn't know they did that. But it's up to the individual person what they do. People still need educating if that woman believed that only 10years ago !! | |||
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"Sex with a condom isn't safe either so Fab, please could you ban fucking altogether? Merci. Last one out please turn out the lights." Exactly. Lot of people thing just chuck a condom on for penetration and you're indestructible!! It's worrying really. | |||
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"Also, the hit by a Car connection isn't clever or adding anything to this argument. Allow me... Is, it right for people on this site one that donates money to a charity that promote Safe Sex to place adverts for Unprotected Sex. Now, this can't be stopped yet surely if a ban was placed on Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think about that), it would be responsible behaviour. Time for a change, me thinks. " It's as silly as your request ! We are all adults on here we can all choose to do what we like . I don't do BB but that's my CHOICE !!! And I uphold every ones right to make there own choice !! | |||
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"OP... You don't have safe sex as an interest and you say you want to deliver yummy spunk to women and couples. Is that delivering it inside a condom? Maybe, after seeing Rachel Dilley on 'This Morning' I've been reflecting on my own behaviour. You are correct, yet the power of that inter_iew has made me think deeply." But not deeply enough to want to change your profile preference to safe sex... However you are happy to ask the site owners to ban anyone that wants to engage in unsafe sex!?!? | |||
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"Sex with a condom isn't safe either so Fab, please could you ban fucking altogether? Merci. Last one out please turn out the lights." | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder " It's there choice though... Bareback is not illegal.. racism can have you arrested | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder " Racism is against the law !!!! Sex ( as long as your both consenting grown ups ) isn't !!!! | |||
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"OP... You don't have safe sex as an interest and you say you want to deliver yummy spunk to women and couples. Is that delivering it inside a condom? Maybe, after seeing Rachel Dilley on 'This Morning' I've been reflecting on my own behaviour. You are correct, yet the power of that inter_iew has made me think deeply. But not deeply enough to want to change your profile preference to safe sex... However you are happy to ask the site owners to ban anyone that wants to engage in unsafe sex!?!? " I've only just seen that, how did I NOT tick Safe Sex. As I always, play Safe. Am rather embarrassed but also thankful for you noticing that as now I realize why I was getting now & again messages from Couples asking if I wanted to take part in Bareback Gangbangs...!!! | |||
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"Dear All, On my day-off, I watched 'This Morning' [ITV] & what got me was an inter_iew with... Rachel Dilley (aged 58). The Inter_iew was about how at aged 48, Ms. Dilley got HIV via unprotected Sex. She believed that only Black Africans could get this tragic disease hence her going bareback with a man she had just met " Which makes her pig-ignorant on two counts already. | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder " Also are you kidding me . I don't know the stats but I will put money on racism is a lot more dangerous then sex . The risk of a racis atack must be higher than HIV ! | |||
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"I read it as he is asking the site not to promote it....not to ban people actually doing it. " Nope he asks in op that if you arrange a meet and than ask for BB you should've band | |||
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"Im going to send Ruggers on every meet organised by any person who is a member of this site to check that they are using a condom. If they dont she is going to chop their cocks off. " Shit I didnt she was logged on. Dont tell her what I said | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder Also are you kidding me . I don't know the stats but I will put money on racism is a lot more dangerous then sex . The risk of a racis atack must be higher than HIV ! " Absolute rubbish, sorry | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder Racism is against the law !!!! Sex ( as long as your both consenting grown ups ) isn't !!!!" Erm... that might not be correct as Adults know (hopefully) around the dangers of unprotected Sex therefore could one or a couple be responsible just as a Driver might be for have 8 Pints. Am on the same debate on the L.A Porn Industry in 2015 going 100% Condom, as they have had to many tragic incidents of people getting H.I.V. I like Fab to promote Safe Sex with education on the hazards of unprotected Sex also more kinky stuff like Bukkake. I was unaware of what could happen in that situation. If, they meaning the owners can now have Chat on Mobile Phones & Tablets then they can have in the above Toolbar a Safe Sex Education section. | |||
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"A bukkake is risky yet greater risk is a Man spunking in a Woman unprotected. You know it's easier to catch something from the eyes than through inside ? I didn't know that... Yet, it make logic as the eyes are directly connected to the Brain that in-turn is connected to everything in the Human Body. That's really interesting especially in case of Bukkake." My assumption is how quickly it is absorbed into the body and into the bloodstream. | |||
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"To suggest a ban on such a thing is ridiculous personally I would never do bareback sex with anyone from here that's my choice. What next a ban on farting." How can you compare passing wind to that of an unprotected sex Gangbang in which a Woman takes 20 Men loads inside of her...!!! At, times this site. | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder " Why are you worried, it has nothing to do with you. | |||
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"you can't enforce safe sex especially just for NSA sex, i've met plenty of people who love bareback, but i always check and double check if they are safe, i'll always be honest with someone about my sexual health, lying bastards are the real problem. Can you explain how you check and double check please? The only "proof" I have is a text from the clap clinic which confirms I was clear on dd/mm/yyyy approx 2 weeks after my tests...I guess I could fake this quite easily, I also could be regularly tested but play BB all the time and just be lucky, or I could be harbouring a nasty bug having had sex a coupla days after my tests (condoms are safer, not bullet proof) I'll never condemn anyone for choosing BB, but I do think it's a bit naive to think you can ever know that person you fuck is disease free" We always use condoms unless the other people have a cert/letter stating they have been fully tested within the last 28 days, we have this done every 28 days for work reasons. We need our passport or driving license number documented on the letter to prove who we are on the day of the test & do the same when picking up the letter. Using ID with the full certs it is possible to know that cert/letter belongs to that person. Having regular tests don't make you bullet proof but it does make pin pointing an outbreak of STD's. | |||
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"To suggest a ban on such a thing is ridiculous personally I would never do bareback sex with anyone from here that's my choice. What next a ban on farting." Farting in the chat forum is already banned. | |||
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"Im going to send Ruggers on every meet organised by any person who is a member of this site to check that they are using a condom. If they dont she is going to chop their cocks off. Shit I didnt she was logged on. Dont tell her what I said " | |||
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"To suggest a ban on such a thing is ridiculous personally I would never do bareback sex with anyone from here that's my choice. What next a ban on farting. How can you compare passing wind to that of an unprotected sex Gangbang in which a Woman takes 20 Men loads inside of her...!!! At, times this site. " It can be compared because neither can be controlled by a swinging site. | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder Racism is against the law !!!! Sex ( as long as your both consenting grown ups ) isn't !!!! Erm... that might not be correct as Adults know (hopefully) around the dangers of unprotected Sex therefore could one or a couple be responsible just as a Driver might be for have 8 Pints. Am on the same debate on the L.A Porn Industry in 2015 going 100% Condom, as they have had to many tragic incidents of people getting H.I.V. I like Fab to promote Safe Sex with education on the hazards of unprotected Sex also more kinky stuff like Bukkake. I was unaware of what could happen in that situation. If, they meaning the owners can now have Chat on Mobile Phones & Tablets then they can have in the above Toolbar a Safe Sex Education section. " Whats not correct ? Drink driving is against the law fabs would ban an ad that said I want you to drink drive to are meet Sex unprotected isn't !!! | |||
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"you can't enforce safe sex especially just for NSA sex, i've met plenty of people who love bareback, but i always check and double check if they are safe, i'll always be honest with someone about my sexual health, lying bastards are the real problem. Can you explain how you check and double check please? The only "proof" I have is a text from the clap clinic which confirms I was clear on dd/mm/yyyy approx 2 weeks after my tests...I guess I could fake this quite easily, I also could be regularly tested but play BB all the time and just be lucky, or I could be harbouring a nasty bug having had sex a coupla days after my tests (condoms are safer, not bullet proof) I'll never condemn anyone for choosing BB, but I do think it's a bit naive to think you can ever know that person you fuck is disease free We always use condoms unless the other people have a cert/letter stating they have been fully tested within the last 28 days, we have this done every 28 days for work reasons. We need our passport or driving license number documented on the letter to prove who we are on the day of the test & do the same when picking up the letter. Using ID with the full certs it is possible to know that cert/letter belongs to that person. Having regular tests don't make you bullet proof but it does make pin pointing an outbreak of STD's." If, only more people had that consideration. This is what am going on about... awareness. This site would correctly ban people for using racist language & am sure you would agree with this. Yet, some are fine with Bareback Meets being openly promoted on this site, I don't understand. Now, if MORE people had the approach of _imjohn, I'd be more relaxed yet sadly it seems a growing number of people do not. Great message, _imjohn. | |||
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"you can't enforce safe sex especially just for NSA sex, i've met plenty of people who love bareback, but i always check and double check if they are safe, i'll always be honest with someone about my sexual health, lying bastards are the real problem. Can you explain how you check and double check please? The only "proof" I have is a text from the clap clinic which confirms I was clear on dd/mm/yyyy approx 2 weeks after my tests...I guess I could fake this quite easily, I also could be regularly tested but play BB all the time and just be lucky, or I could be harbouring a nasty bug having had sex a coupla days after my tests (condoms are safer, not bullet proof) I'll never condemn anyone for choosing BB, but I do think it's a bit naive to think you can ever know that person you fuck is disease free We always use condoms unless the other people have a cert/letter stating they have been fully tested within the last 28 days, we have this done every 28 days for work reasons. We need our passport or driving license number documented on the letter to prove who we are on the day of the test & do the same when picking up the letter. Using ID with the full certs it is possible to know that cert/letter belongs to that person. Having regular tests don't make you bullet proof but it does make pin pointing an outbreak of STD's." What are you....Porn stars?!! | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content." Please read carefully what SashaCharlie just mentioned above as she is totally correct due to using logic. Thank you, SashaCharlie. | |||
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"What are you....Porn stars?!! " And your point is???? | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content." Underage + bestiality = against the law Sex is not !!! | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content." To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. | |||
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"What are you....Porn stars?!! And your point is????" Well, are you??! | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. " | |||
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" If, only more people had that consideration. This is what am going on about... awareness. This site would correctly ban people for using racist language & am sure you would agree with this. Yet, some are fine with Bareback Meets being openly promoted on this site, I don't understand. Now, if MORE people had the approach of _imjohn, I'd be more relaxed yet sadly it seems a growing number of people do not. Great message, _imjohn. " People having unsafe sex is their 'preference'. A word used far too commonly in the forums. People using racist language are breaking the law. Look it up! Hard to take you seriously when you've been on the site for over a year and only just noticed you didn't have safe sex listed as an option. I wonder how many meets you have had where you were contacted purely for that reason. | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. " Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? | |||
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" If, only more people had that consideration. This is what am going on about... awareness. This site would correctly ban people for using racist language & am sure you would agree with this. Yet, some are fine with Bareback Meets being openly promoted on this site, I don't understand. Now, if MORE people had the approach of _imjohn, I'd be more relaxed yet sadly it seems a growing number of people do not. Great message, _imjohn. People having unsafe sex is their 'preference'. A word used far too commonly in the forums. People using racist language are breaking the law. Look it up! Hard to take you seriously when you've been on the site for over a year and only just noticed you didn't have safe sex listed as an option. I wonder how many meets you have had where you were contacted purely for that reason. " Thank you, thank you.....My ever-only preference on this fantastic site has been.....'Safe sex'. I rest my case......all else is superfluous | |||
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" If, only more people had that consideration. This is what am going on about... awareness. This site would correctly ban people for using racist language & am sure you would agree with this. Yet, some are fine with Bareback Meets being openly promoted on this site, I don't understand. Now, if MORE people had the approach of _imjohn, I'd be more relaxed yet sadly it seems a growing number of people do not. Great message, _imjohn. People having unsafe sex is their 'preference'. A word used far too commonly in the forums. People using racist language are breaking the law. Look it up! Hard to take you seriously when you've been on the site for over a year and only just noticed you didn't have safe sex listed as an option. I wonder how many meets you have had where you were contacted purely for that reason. " So, you've never made any silly mistakes in your life like... walking into a lap-post, complimenting a Woman on being Pregnant only to realize she's over-weight or flirted with a person inter_iewing you for a job realizing they like it but the other 3 don't. Guess, you are perfect then, no silly honset mistakes from you, Sir. | |||
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"Am quite surprised in the amount of Women defending this rather risky behaviour as I'd always _iewed it more Men being the one's to express... Total Freedom no matter the risk when it comes to Bareback Sex. It's just something, I noticed no agenda on those as it's all about opinions. Yet, are people comfortable with such dangerous meets being arranged? " Because people say adults should decide what they want to do for themselves doesn't mean they are playing BB and arranging BB meets for themselves. | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. Underage + bestiality = against the law Sex is not !!! " And lives are ruined and lost by HIV. I think I just trumped you | |||
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"Am quite surprised in the amount of Women defending this rather risky behaviour as I'd always _iewed it more Men being the one's to express... Total Freedom no matter the risk when it comes to Bareback Sex. It's just something, I noticed no agenda on those as it's all about opinions. Yet, are people comfortable with such dangerous meets being arranged? I also _iew a contradiction in that this site donates money to a charity educating against such behaviour but then allowing to promote it. Sort, of like a Worldwide Burger Chain giving money to a Vegan Educational Program. Am, I correct yet the only way I'll gain awareness is via expressing my _iews then seeing what others feel. Then reflection leading to a higher state of awareness. " As I have pointed out I myself would not risk BB. But I defend to the hilt any ones right to choose there sexual preference !! As long as it's not against the law !! | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. Underage + bestiality = against the law Sex is not !!! And lives are ruined and lost by HIV. I think I just trumped you " Lol you can't ban every thing in life causes a lost life ! | |||
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"I am totally anti-bb. I believe the risks just are not worth it. I have lost two friends to HIV and I intend to grow into a very disreputable old age. That said, trying to ban such activity or the promotion of would be like plaiting fog. I think better education and information is required. Ignorance kills." Hell yes !! | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex?" Is it promotion ? A definition of promotion is "activity that supports or encourages a cause, venture, or aim." I think Admin let Adults decide what they do with their lives rather than encourage us all to go BB. | |||
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"Am quite surprised in the amount of Women defending this rather risky behaviour as I'd always _iewed it more Men being the one's to express... Total Freedom no matter the risk when it comes to Bareback Sex. It's just something, I noticed no agenda on those as it's all about opinions. Yet, are people comfortable with such dangerous meets being arranged? I also _iew a contradiction in that this site donates money to a charity educating against such behaviour but then allowing to promote it. Sort, of like a Worldwide Burger Chain giving money to a Vegan Educational Program. Am, I correct yet the only way I'll gain awareness is via expressing my _iews then seeing what others feel. Then reflection leading to a higher state of awareness. As I have pointed out I myself would not risk BB. But I defend to the hilt any ones right to choose there sexual preference !! As long as it's not against the law !! " Am saying that as a collective we would be against individual(s) on this site saying something racist but also about a geographical location. Am, from Liverpool & in my life have had lot's of abuse that is on-par with verbal racism yet the UK Law doesn't deem this illegal. Yet, morally it's wrong as it can be very nasty & offensive. Just last week, I was driving listening to BBC Radio 4 only to listen to a London Comedian - Bob Mills say some harsh things about the people of my city. Some would say it's a laugh but harsh is harsh. So, whilst laws don't cover everything the majority of people know what is & isn't on. Subjective yeah, but I hope you can sort of understand my point of _iew | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex?" I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. | |||
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"Also, the hit by a Car connection isn't clever or adding anything to this argument. " actually.... yes it does... you see.... everything is about judging the risks attached to certain types of behaviour.... be that bareback.... or oral without condoms... or kissing... or fingering... or not changing comdoms between partners at the list goes on and on and on.... the only true safe sex is no sex at all.. and I dont see you advocating for that... next time have a look at the BSK mark on the side of a packet of condoms.... they are only 98% effective.... so back to the road analogy.... you could cross a road at a zebra/traffic lights.. or not... or if you were really brave/stupid, how about crossing a 6 lane motorway???? again it is all about judging the risks attacked to a certain activity! | |||
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"It would be highly responsible to push the whole BB thing to the point people are not honest about it. Going on about banning it or making it illegal or what ever is farcical it couldn't be monitored it couldn't be policed its an idiotic ingestion it really is you only have to look at illegal narcotics how long they have been banned and how much is about to blow that idea out of the water. Its far better people are open about it and you can then avoid if you choose to and all this non safe sex, HIV preaching is just hypocritical as people in monogamous relationships would shout exactly the same thing about swinging in most cases as condoms are not the perfect solutions. Some people really need to get a life read what they post and realise how ludicrous they look at times. " Amazing post xx | |||
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"Also, the hit by a Car connection isn't clever or adding anything to this argument. actually.... yes it does... you see.... everything is about judging the risks attached to certain types of behaviour.... be that bareback.... or oral without condoms... or kissing... or fingering... or not changing comdoms between partners at the list goes on and on and on.... the only true safe sex is no sex at all.. and I dont see you advocating for that... next time have a look at the BSK mark on the side of a packet of condoms.... they are only 98% effective.... so back to the road analogy.... you could cross a road at a zebra/traffic lights.. or not... or if you were really brave/stupid, how about crossing a 6 lane motorway???? again it is all about judging the risks attacked to a certain activity! " try x The only ( true ) safe sex is no sex , any one that arranges a meet then askes you for sex , report to admin and they should be baned !! | |||
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"Think we will sit back have a ciggie and a bottle of wine and watch this unravel..... Oohh wait....that's not good for you either...." Lets all wrap ourselves in clingfilm and never leave the house. Although that sounds a bit kinky | |||
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"I've just seen that the OP's profile states he likes watersports. Surely pissing all over someone, which can include in the mouth to, isn't very safe or hygienic either. Pot calling kettle black in my opinion. As everyone says, each to their own. " That would not transmit the HIV virus though - that is only transmitted via bodily fluids which are produced by the lymphatic system - including sperm. Urine is not produced in that manner. Furthermore, urine is said to be sterile. | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. " Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. | |||
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"I've just seen that the OP's profile states he likes watersports. Surely pissing all over someone, which can include in the mouth to, isn't very safe or hygienic either. Pot calling kettle black in my opinion. As everyone says, each to their own. " Am learning new things yet I've never done Watersports just a kinky idea dream that after seeing 'This Morning' is not not happening. Back to re-edit me Profile. | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. " I think you are way, WAY overthinking this. | |||
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"Furthermore, urine is said to be sterile." Only just after it leaves the body. By the time it hits another body it is very not sterile. | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. I think you are way, WAY overthinking this." Am not overthinking, just thinking as overthinking isn't possible. | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. " Yes it is !! We are grown ups and have the right to choose !! And you point is silly ! If this site ended up in the papers there are people are in to all sorts of kinky stuff !! Banning bb would not stop bad publicity !! | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. I think you are way, WAY overthinking this. Am not overthinking, just thinking as overthinking isn't possible." OK then, linking the Leveson enquiry to people having NSA sex is a totally proportionate response and not at all weird. | |||
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"so... mr milk.... really going to play devils advocate now... 1) is it just HIV you have an issue with, or is it STD's in General? 2) since most of there can be passed on thru Oral without condoms/dams... are you pressing for a ban on that as well? i'll hang up and listen......." Am just saying that 'This Morning' Inter_iew has made me think. Sure, I could live with 0.00% Sex yet that's not fun only thing worse is being an Arsenal Fan watching their team get desultory at Anfield, recently. Anyways, back on-track... Risk is everywhere yet 10 to 20 Men Spunking in on Woman in the Meets section I've seen over the past 12mths in the Meets section isn't nice. Am not prefect just a Man... didn't Özil say that, last night | |||
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"so... mr milk.... really going to play devils advocate now... 1) is it just HIV you have an issue with, or is it STD's in General? 2) since most of there can be passed on thru Oral without condoms/dams... are you pressing for a ban on that as well? i'll hang up and listen....... Am just saying that 'This Morning' Inter_iew has made me think. Sure, I could live with 0.00% Sex yet that's not fun only thing worse is being an Arsenal Fan watching their team get desultory at Anfield, recently. Anyways, back on-track... Risk is everywhere yet 10 to 20 Men Spunking in on Woman in the Meets section I've seen over the past 12mths in the Meets section isn't nice. Am not prefect just a Man... didn't Özil say that, last night " nice diversion... so i'll ask again..... 1) is it just HIV you have an issue with, or is it STD's in General? 2) since most of there can be passed on thru Oral without condoms/dams... are you pressing for a ban on that as well? i'll hang up and listen....... | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. I think you are way, WAY overthinking this. Am not overthinking, just thinking as overthinking isn't possible. OK then, linking the Leveson enquiry to people having NSA sex is a totally proportionate response and not at all weird." And comparing it to rasicem and drink driving ! As long as you your self stop having sex or oral sex . You not get an STD ! How ever you might still get hit by a drink driver or killed in a race crime !! Unsafe sex is a risk . But it's your risk to take !! | |||
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"Risk is everywhere yet 10 to 20 Men Spunking in on Woman in the Meets section I've seen over the past 12mths in the Meets section isn't nice." Why let it bother you? Just don't go. | |||
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"so... mr milk.... really going to play devils advocate now... 1) is it just HIV you have an issue with, or is it STD's in General? 2) since most of there can be passed on thru Oral without condoms/dams... are you pressing for a ban on that as well? i'll hang up and listen....... Am just saying that 'This Morning' Inter_iew has made me think. Sure, I could live with 0.00% Sex yet that's not fun only thing worse is being an Arsenal Fan watching their team get desultory at Anfield, recently. Anyways, back on-track... Risk is everywhere yet 10 to 20 Men Spunking in on Woman in the Meets section I've seen over the past 12mths in the Meets section isn't nice. Am not prefect just a Man... didn't Özil say that, last night nice diversion... so i'll ask again..... 1) is it just HIV you have an issue with, or is it STD's in General? 2) since most of there can be passed on thru Oral without condoms/dams... are you pressing for a ban on that as well? i'll hang up and listen......." Maybe, I express in a manner you don't understand. That's no insult as I can do that as Liverpool does educate an individual to have an verbal arsenal. I've watched something, it's made me think then I've connected it to a practice on this site that I deem irresponsible & highly dangerous. If, you don't see the connect then am sorry. All I can be is me, like me or not the decision is yours & yours alone. | |||
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"BB is like Russian roulette better education from a young age is whats needed " Hell yes . The fact that the lady on tv thort you only got HIV from having sex with African men is what's shocking , not that a swingers site let people have BB | |||
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"Education is the key not infringing on people's right to choice!!" So, why have laws? We can teach that Racism is wrong but then not enforce when people do so? Am, not into the liberal freedom routine. Can anybody without using the Car's Crash argument or Everybody Free, please justify how it can be sensible for a Woman to advertise on this site for 15 men to Spunk inside of her. Am I in some alternative universe | |||
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"Education is the key not infringing on people's right to choice!! So, why have laws? We can teach that Racism is wrong but then not enforce when people do so? Am, not into the liberal freedom routine. Can anybody without using the Car's Crash argument or Everybody Free, please justify how it can be sensible for a Woman to advertise on this site for 15 men to Spunk inside of her. Am I in some alternative universe " Its not sensible. Its also not illegal, and, as its her body to do with as she wishes, it is really up to her. Now if she caught something and knowingly transmitted it, that's illegal, and should be dealt with. No-one is saying that bareback isn't a stupid thing to do. What some of us are saying is that its not up to you, me, Fab, or the Government what people choose to do in their own beds. | |||
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"you can't enforce safe sex especially just for NSA sex, i've met plenty of people who love bareback, but i always check and double check if they are safe, i'll always be honest with someone about my sexual health, lying bastards are the real problem. Can you explain how you check and double check please? The only "proof" I have is a text from the clap clinic which confirms I was clear on dd/mm/yyyy approx 2 weeks after my tests...I guess I could fake this quite easily, I also could be regularly tested but play BB all the time and just be lucky, or I could be harbouring a nasty bug having had sex a coupla days after my tests (condoms are safer, not bullet proof) I'll never condemn anyone for choosing BB, but I do think it's a bit naive to think you can ever know that person you fuck is disease free We always use condoms unless the other people have a cert/letter stating they have been fully tested within the last 28 days, we have this done every 28 days for work reasons. We need our passport or driving license number documented on the letter to prove who we are on the day of the test & do the same when picking up the letter. Using ID with the full certs it is possible to know that cert/letter belongs to that person. Having regular tests don't make you bullet proof but it does make pin pointing an outbreak of STD's.What are you....Porn stars?!! " Yes | |||
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"The op's taking a great deal of flak when in fact he should be applauded for getting stuck in and daring to make a suggestion that was bound to raise the hackles of the 'each to their own' liberals on Fab. The op didn't suggest that fab could ban bareback, he suggested that fab could ban the 'promotion of bareback'. Is this possible? Yes, of course it is. Fab makes a good job of removing any content relating to underage sex and bestiality, so it would be easy to extend this control to bareback content. To be fair , the OP also says anyone arranging BB meets should be banned. Yes, but that doesn't dilute the central question, which is: can a site like Fab claim to be sexually responsible when it turns a blind eye to the promotion of bareback sex? I do wish people would realise that Fab does not claim to be anything apart from a site that enables like minded people to meet. Do you need your doctor/gum clinic to tell you to use condoms? If you do then back away from the PC, if not then why do you need Fab to do it for you? Why blame a website for peoples behaviour? It sounds like the woman the OP posted about wouldn't have understood when to where a condom if it had been put in 10' tall neon letters on her roof, yet Fab is suddenly irresponsible because of the stupid behaviour of its members. I would understand if Fab was promoting unsafe sex or illegal activities but its not. Its like blaming the hammer for you hitting your thumb. Am saying that due to what I've watched a real person suffering from H.I.V going on National TV & being very brave, it's made me think. I just think if Bareback Meets especially Gangbangs (think on that) where banned then the site is being responsible. People can arrange what they want but not on this site also even with the Levenson Inquiry now stopping the UK Tabloid Press looking into the personal lives of people they could get around this by simply reporting the fact that people on THIS very site promote meets in which a Woman requires 15 men to Spunk inside of her. This would be on 'Public Health Reasons' meaning that Paper couldn't be sued. Yet, the negative publicity would damage this site leading to many people leaving in droves. If, the owners of this site had that awareness then would it be such a terrible thing to have a ban/block on the promoting of Bareback. Is, that such a crime against free expression of rather some smart thinking. I think you are way, WAY overthinking this. Am not overthinking, just thinking as overthinking isn't possible. OK then, linking the Leveson enquiry to people having NSA sex is a totally proportionate response and not at all weird." Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... | |||
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"Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... " Go ahead. It will at least be entertaining. | |||
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"It's for her to choose !!!! I have at no point said its safe . I have said every one has the right to choose and that people should not be band from this site because they do some thing you don't like ! ( unless it's aganced the law ) " I don't want to be pissed on !! I don't think it's very clean !! But I haven't said fabs should ban it and I would defend your right to piss on a willing partner . | |||
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"the point some are trying to make about "unsafe sex" not being illegal is a flawed one. actually there are times when it can be illegal. there have been cases where people knowingly engaged in sex with others in order to spread a sexual infection to others and this is illegal. in many places, not telling a potential partner that you are infected before engaging in sex acts is, in fact, illegal. secondly, dissect the argument here: the op makes the point that the site supports safe sex and donates to hiv/aids awareness and charity and points out one way that the site could further its support of this charity, namely by not allowing promotion of bb meets in the meets/events and by proposing what I read to be a ban if a person attempted to get around this site rule by promoting the meet as being bb in a private way. does the op have a valid point that there is a way that the site could further its support of hiv/aids charity? yes. does fab have the means to set up the rule being debated? of course, the site can actually set whatever rules it likes and if we, as members, do not agree then we are free to leave. does fab have the means to police said rule enforcement? yes. the method theoretically applied involved the same "report" protocol as is already in place on the site. would implementing the policy actually change much? no, most likely it would not. bb sex between people, whether individuals or groups, will still happen if that is how they are inclined to play. " very eloquently put. | |||
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"the point some are trying to make about "unsafe sex" not being illegal is a flawed one. actually there are times when it can be illegal. there have been cases where people knowingly engaged in sex with others in order to spread a sexual infection to others and this is illegal. in many places, not telling a potential partner that you are infected before engaging in sex acts is, in fact, illegal. secondly, dissect the argument here: the op makes the point that the site supports safe sex and donates to hiv/aids awareness and charity and points out one way that the site could further its support of this charity, namely by not allowing promotion of bb meets in the meets/events and by proposing what I read to be a ban if a person attempted to get around this site rule by promoting the meet as being bb in a private way. does the op have a valid point that there is a way that the site could further its support of hiv/aids charity? yes. does fab have the means to set up the rule being debated? of course, the site can actually set whatever rules it likes and if we, as members, do not agree then we are free to leave. does fab have the means to police said rule enforcement? yes. the method theoretically applied involved the same "report" protocol as is already in place on the site. would implementing the policy actually change much? no, most likely it would not. bb sex between people, whether individuals or groups, will still happen if that is how they are inclined to play. " but people are also point out that BB is not the only way that STD's are transmitted.... and one that he refuses to answer... So if you ban BB I then propose that anyone who has a picture on there profile of uncovered oral (both men and women) should be banned as STD's can be passed this way as well | |||
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"you can't enforce safe sex especially just for NSA sex, i've met plenty of people who love bareback, but i always check and double check if they are safe, i'll always be honest with someone about my sexual health, lying bastards are the real problem." you said this on another thread, strangers are sincere? Double check how? Her | |||
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"Again, am NOT against people private choices what I feel worried about is open declarations looking for a group of men to ejaculate inside a Woman on this site...!!! This site can't referee each meet but CAN have a ban on people promoting this dangerous behaviour banning those that do like racism. So, a member can use a set of words against another around Ethnicity & been seen by the majority as being wrong deserving a ban yet... a Couple (Male & Female) can arrange a Gangbang in which they want say 15 Men to spunk inside of her. Which one is more dangerous, I wonder " Race and ethnicity is a protected characteristic. As far as I'm aware bareback sex isn't. | |||
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" Can anybody without using the Car's Crash argument or Everybody Free, please justify how it can be sensible for a Woman to advertise on this site for 15 men to Spunk inside of her. Am I in some alternative universe " whilst you aren't in an alternate reality, you are on a moral high horse. you are presuming that what "makes sense" to you is the same that "makes sense" to everyone else. life should have taught you that this isn't the case. the moral compass and conscience which guides people throughout their lives not only varies from person to person, but changes and adapts as we gain wisdom through experience. no two people have identical outlooks on life. and there are individuals in this world who pride themselves on never being sensible, of living by their one rules, being true to themselves, not being a follower, and shouting YOLO at the top of their voice with every breath they take.... | |||
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"the point some are trying to make about "unsafe sex" not being illegal is a flawed one. actually there are times when it can be illegal. there have been cases where people knowingly engaged in sex with others in order to spread a sexual infection to others and this is illegal. in many places, not telling a potential partner that you are infected before engaging in sex acts is, in fact, illegal. secondly, dissect the argument here: the op makes the point that the site supports safe sex and donates to hiv/aids awareness and charity and points out one way that the site could further its support of this charity, namely by not allowing promotion of bb meets in the meets/events and by proposing what I read to be a ban if a person attempted to get around this site rule by promoting the meet as being bb in a private way. does the op have a valid point that there is a way that the site could further its support of hiv/aids charity? yes. does fab have the means to set up the rule being debated? of course, the site can actually set whatever rules it likes and if we, as members, do not agree then we are free to leave. does fab have the means to police said rule enforcement? yes. the method theoretically applied involved the same "report" protocol as is already in place on the site. would implementing the policy actually change much? no, most likely it would not. bb sex between people, whether individuals or groups, will still happen if that is how they are inclined to play. but people are also point out that BB is not the only way that STD's are transmitted.... and one that he refuses to answer... So if you ban BB I then propose that anyone who has a picture on there profile of uncovered oral (both men and women) should be banned as STD's can be passed this way as well" its a good point. I sometimes get worried by those who think there is less chance of being infected via oral sex, because with many infections the transmission rate is actually not less via oral. I did however read above where the op DID acknowledge that he had not thought through and fully realised the transmission factor when participating in bukake. he erroneously thought that the transmission via eyes would be higher due to proximity to the brain, rather than the near direct transfer into the bloodstream due to the proximity of blood vessels to the surface of the skin, thinness of skin, and mucous membranes. | |||
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"if anyone barebacks it should be on their profile then its up to the other person if the meet goes ahead" Some people will lie . You should alway protect your self and if you want to be 100% sure ( or as close as is poss ) just don't have any sexual contact with anyone . But at end of the day we are all here because we choose to be and we all have freedom of choirs | |||
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"Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... Go ahead. It will at least be entertaining. " I will do my best. The OP believes that bareback sex is a behaviour that should be, essentially, sanctioned as it involves risk. Promoting such a risk is, in the opinion of the OP, a bad idea. Well, (and here comes the red squirrel) risk is, guess what, an example of intellectual evolution. People take risk because they believe the rewards to be greater than the negative consequences. They might be wrong, but at least they are not red squirrels. And as for Yoyo Ma, I feel that her stringed instrument virtuosity is as a direct result of bareback sex.... You can't argue with that. | |||
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"Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... Go ahead. It will at least be entertaining. I will do my best. The OP believes that bareback sex is a behaviour that should be, essentially, sanctioned as it involves risk. Promoting such a risk is, in the opinion of the OP, a bad idea. Well, (and here comes the red squirrel) risk is, guess what, an example of intellectual evolution. People take risk because they believe the rewards to be greater than the negative consequences. They might be wrong, but at least they are not red squirrels. And as for Yoyo Ma, I feel that her stringed instrument virtuosity is as a direct result of bareback sex.... You can't argue with that. " Can I ask is red squirrels dieing out because they don't take risks or because the risk they took ended up being to risky ? | |||
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"Education is the key not infringing on people's right to choice!! So, why have laws? We can teach that Racism is wrong but then not enforce when people do so? Am, not into the liberal freedom routine. Can anybody without using the Car's Crash argument or Everybody Free, please justify how it can be sensible for a Woman to advertise on this site for 15 men to Spunk inside of her. Am I in some alternative universe " By what authority do you have the right to dictate others behaviour and where exactly is the line to be drawn. You obviously belong in another universe where your ideals dictate the behaviour of the population! I'm afraid the "freedom" label you are scared of is something many people in this and other countries have fought and died for. Frankly the world would be far better if holier than thou bigots were banned! | |||
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"Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... Go ahead. It will at least be entertaining. I will do my best. The OP believes that bareback sex is a behaviour that should be, essentially, sanctioned as it involves risk. Promoting such a risk is, in the opinion of the OP, a bad idea. Well, (and here comes the red squirrel) risk is, guess what, an example of intellectual evolution. People take risk because they believe the rewards to be greater than the negative consequences. They might be wrong, but at least they are not red squirrels. And as for Yoyo Ma, I feel that her stringed instrument virtuosity is as a direct result of bareback sex.... You can't argue with that. Can I ask is red squirrels dieing out because they don't take risks or because the risk they took ended up being to risky ? " Being a red squirrel, and one that practices safe sex, I can say that the only risky behaviour I indulge in is masturbating myself with the rough end of a walnut. I haven't died out yet.... | |||
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"As this is a swinger site, I would suggest condoms - you never know who's been there before you, mind you, I would always lick cunt and that is probably risky too!" I can understand that, I was informed through the mouth, detection is quicker,, on a cock and and up a woman lays dormant, and there is the trouble. | |||
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"Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... Go ahead. It will at least be entertaining. I will do my best. The OP believes that bareback sex is a behaviour that should be, essentially, sanctioned as it involves risk. Promoting such a risk is, in the opinion of the OP, a bad idea. Well, (and here comes the red squirrel) risk is, guess what, an example of intellectual evolution. People take risk because they believe the rewards to be greater than the negative consequences. They might be wrong, but at least they are not red squirrels. And as for Yoyo Ma, I feel that her stringed instrument virtuosity is as a direct result of bareback sex.... You can't argue with that. " Yoyo Ma is a bloke, but apart from that, pretty good! | |||
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"Darn it Wyrd, there was I about to make a supposition that linked people having NSA sex to the foraging and eating habits of the red squirrel, cleverly encompassing the Cello playing merit of Yoyo Ma, but I feel I must refrain.... Go ahead. It will at least be entertaining. I will do my best. The OP believes that bareback sex is a behaviour that should be, essentially, sanctioned as it involves risk. Promoting such a risk is, in the opinion of the OP, a bad idea. Well, (and here comes the red squirrel) risk is, guess what, an example of intellectual evolution. People take risk because they believe the rewards to be greater than the negative consequences. They might be wrong, but at least they are not red squirrels. And as for Yoyo Ma, I feel that her stringed instrument virtuosity is as a direct result of bareback sex.... You can't argue with that. Yoyo Ma is a bloke, but apart from that, pretty good! " That's what you think Wyrd! Actually, I heard that his Mum involved herself in a 15 man bukkake session, and that one of the negative consequences of such a session, is that a child prodigy can be born, especially one who plays the cello, who LOOKS male, but is ACTUALLY female! Trust me, I heard it from the most reliable of sources. The Fab Forum. (That's the one where idiots post about red squirrels isnt it?) | |||
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"Just goes to show how wrong I have been all these years. I thought "SAFE SEX" was having a wank in a condom. Everything else meant risk reduction only. You learn something new everyday on here " safe sex is NO sex who is going to do that then lol | |||
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"Dear All, On my day-off, I watched 'This Morning' [ITV] & what got me was an inter_iew with... Rachel Dilley (aged 58). The Inter_iew was about how at aged 48, Ms. Dilley got HIV via unprotected Sex. She believed that only Black Africans could get this tragic disease hence her going bareback with a man she had just met You can watch her worrying but also brave inter_iew via YouTube, am sure a search of... Rachel Dilley This Morning March 2014 HIV Will get you their also, a number of articles have been made about the actual inter_iew. Now on to Fab... I've noticed in the past 12mths, month on month an increase in Unprotected Sex Meets or Bareback. The majority are Gangbang variety in which Male Participants are requested to ejaculate inside one Woman... This is highly dangerous behaviour & in light of what I've watched on Daytime Television; the impacts last for a life-time. Therefore, I would like the owners of Fab... this Website to now ban the open promotion of Bareback meets. Also, if meets arranged via this site suddenly become Bareback at the actual meet then those arranging it should be banned. What do you think reader, agree or disagree but please search YouTube for Ms. Dilley's story in her own words. Better safe than sorry." If you are so concerned its simple don't swing and only have sex with your right hand! | |||
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"I think the op is absolutly correct with this x yeah fab could promote safe sex and all the better for it obviously at meets if people want to risk unprotected then that's upto them x personally I think everyone should wake up and get educated even tho on my profile I make it clear only safe sex I still get asked to do bareback fact is no shag is worth risking my health over " so everyone but you is uneducated about the risks are they? banning things isnt educating people, its just driving behaviour underground | |||
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"Dear All, On my day-off, I watched 'This Morning' [ITV] & what got me was an inter_iew with... Rachel Dilley (aged 58). The Inter_iew was about how at aged 48, Ms. Dilley got HIV via unprotected Sex. She believed that only Black Africans could get this tragic disease hence her going bareback with a man she had just met You can watch her worrying but also brave inter_iew via YouTube, am sure a search of... Rachel Dilley This Morning March 2014 HIV Will get you their also, a number of articles have been made about the actual inter_iew. Now on to Fab... I've noticed in the past 12mths, month on month an increase in Unprotected Sex Meets or Bareback. The majority are Gangbang variety in which Male Participants are requested to ejaculate inside one Woman... This is highly dangerous behaviour & in light of what I've watched on Daytime Television; the impacts last for a life-time. Therefore, I would like the owners of Fab... this Website to now ban the open promotion of Bareback meets. Also, if meets arranged via this site suddenly become Bareback at the actual meet then those arranging it should be banned. What do you think reader, agree or disagree but please search YouTube for Ms. Dilley's story in her own words. Better safe than sorry." So banning something stops it from happening? You really haven't thought this through have you...this persons situation is down to her lack of knowledge and naivety as sad as the story is... Education Education Education! | |||
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"I'd rather be able to see who was taking such risks so I could avoid them rather than bareback gangbangs becoming something that happens secretly. I don't assume anyone is 'safe', but if someone is taking part in something I see as a higher risk I want to be aware of it so I can look after myself. I also don't assume though that using condoms makes me 100% safe though either and am regularly tested. And I also don't think it's up to Fab to ban activities seen as risky (but legal)...anal sex is a higher risk than vaginal sex so is that something to add to the hitlist next? Or what about people who haven't been or testing in the last 3mths...do they get a time out until they can provide clean test results? It's up to the individual to assess the risks they want to take and look after themselves, not Fab to babysit people who want to take higher risks. I do however feel there should be some help/info on safe sex on the site because it's scary sometimes how little some on here know" Very good point about testing, very few people advertise that they take this extra precaution, would we avoid them assuming they're unclean, probably not. We don't mention we use condoms (as is the case with many) so how would you know? The only safe sex is abstinence and where would we be then? | |||
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