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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

No one has time for younger people on here if your looking to spice shit up wouldnt young attitude and energy be the ideal solution well if anyone in the north west agrees then here i am

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I won't play with men my sons age just not for me I prefer my age or older but there are lots of ladies who like younger

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

probably more to do with the lack of profile.

this might help.

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/introductions/251304

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We play with youger in age but we also look for a mature attitude which not everyone has

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And experience goes a long way too x

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS."

Just because he's young doesn't mean he shouldn't be here. I'm young, does that mean I shouldn't be here either? Even though I belong in places like this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And experience goes a long way too x"

Totally agree!

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By *ee VianteWoman  over a year ago

Somewhere in North Norfolk

I prefer men my age or a little older. Experience counts for a lot and they are more often confident without being cocky.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I do have fun and i do go out im on here trying to get some fantasys and fetishes out the way wich you cant exactly ask someone your at a bar with atleast on here you get the jist of what people are after and i agree with the attitude comment aswell but some elder n mid age people on here can be just as childish haha and it may be my profile your right haha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

sweetie you need to sort your profile out, it's not enough to say 'ask me a question'....you need to sell yourself.

Remember you get out what you put in.

I think you're way to young to be on here, go out in the real world and have some fun ~ by all means try a club / social meet, show people who you are & what you can offer.

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS.

Just because he's young doesn't mean he shouldn't be here. I'm young, does that mean I shouldn't be here either? Even though I belong in places like this. "

Oh please..... Get a life.. 21 on a swinging site sorry but you need to get out more. You belong in places like this. Places like what exactly, what are you saying. You need to get a life and get out with your mates, be young, be happy, get pissed, go to Ibiza and get wasted, live a little. Enjoy life and have fun with your mates

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And experience goes a long way too x

Totally agree! "

erica ur stunning very lucky chap ur hubby

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We like young guys. It is hard to find one who is not cocky and immature. I know it goes with the territory, but some are respectful and mature.

Op. I know you say you can spice things up, but for us anyway, we like the young guy to be a bit shy and inexperienced. It's our thing.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And classy laydee

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS.

Just because he's young doesn't mean he shouldn't be here. I'm young, does that mean I shouldn't be here either? Even though I belong in places like this.

Oh please..... Get a life.. 21 on a swinging site sorry but you need to get out more. You belong in places like this. Places like what exactly, what are you saying. You need to get a life and get out with your mates, be young, be happy, get pissed, go to Ibiza and get wasted, live a little. Enjoy life and have fun with your mates"

Places where there are like minded people who aren't out to judge you for how you want to live your life. Just because young people are on a swinging site doesn't mean they don't have a life. We have a naughty sides too that want to explore is that a bad thing? I have a life thank you very much and this is very much a part of it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And experience goes a long way too x

Totally agree! erica ur stunning very lucky chap ur hubby "

Thank you!

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

And another thing....you want to fulfil your fantasies!!!!!! What are you talking about. You fulfil everything now at 21 what you got to look forward to by the time you are 25. Don't rush your youth away seriously, time enough to be on a site like this when you have done that and got the tee shirt.

Go and book a holiday and have sex with young 21 year olds how don't want a nice meal and few drinks and a shag on the balcony because it's "daring"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And experience goes a long way too x

Totally agree! erica ur stunning very lucky chap ur hubby

Thank you! "

your welcome say it as it is x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would say there is nothing wrong with fantasies completely healthy. Make a wish list go away get some life experience like people say live a little and if you still want to come back in 5 years x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

A lot of people on here are ...how do I put this delicately. ? Middle aged.

Consequently they are not looking to play with people the same age as their kids.

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

No I just think it is very very sad.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

Youth isn't a crime and there's no need to be patronising and rude because young person is doing exactly the same as older people.

It's tough for single men, it's even tougher for young single men, stick it out, grow a thick skin and get involved, good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And classy laydee "

Ah thank you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad. "

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Thank you "

not trying to be patronising but I just feel you'd have loads of success in reality.

like I said, try a club night & go for one that attracts a younger crowd & jazz up your profile.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And classy laydee

Ah thank you "

ur welcome x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another. "

I don't think people are judging hun they're just trying to answer the OP's question ~ and the reality is for a lot of people he is the age of their children!

Might be a maternal thing as I think women of a similar age do okay.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I do its not like am a virgin or any thing I can get a night out or a date im looking for joining couples and a sex partner to trY unusual things an i just thougt here was ideal i wil try the profile re vamp tho thank you x

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

Ok another question. What are your mates doing this weekend....if they are doing something are you going with them? Or are you on here on a Friday night looking for a couple old enough to be your mum and dad or you out. Pre drinks first at someone's house then off to a pub then off to a club. What you doing tomorrow night?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another.

I don't think people are judging hun they're just trying to answer the OP's question ~ and the reality is for a lot of people he is the age of their children!

Might be a maternal thing as I think women of a similar age do okay."

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Yeah I get that and what your saying is right. I just think it's wrong to tell people they shouldn't be on here just because they're young. Obviously the young ones aren't for everyone but we all have a right to be here and have fun

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By *nigmatic1Woman  over a year ago

A seaside town near you!


"I won't play with men my sons age just not for me I prefer my age or older but there are lots of ladies who like younger "

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another. "

To be honest there are some days when being at home with my slippers on and a cup of tea seems very attractive.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok another question. What are your mates doing this weekend....if they are doing something are you going with them? Or are you on here on a Friday night looking for a couple old enough to be your mum and dad or you out. Pre drinks first at someone's house then off to a pub then off to a club. What you doing tomorrow night? "

Most of us have a social life away from fabs and swinging it is all about balance just do not see fabs as an easy way to have sex as it will be very disappointed x

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire

We definitely think it is about attitude rather than age. Unfortunately a lot of young people are, well immature.

However there's quite a few immature older people aswell!

Once you are 18 then it is everyone's individual choice. Who are we to tell them otherwise?

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Ok another question. What are your mates doing this weekend....if they are doing something are you going with them? Or are you on here on a Friday night looking for a couple old enough to be your mum and dad or you out. Pre drinks first at someone's house then off to a pub then off to a club. What you doing tomorrow night?

Most of us have a social life away from fabs and swinging it is all about balance just do not see fabs as an easy way to have sex as it will be very disappointed x"

Men a lot older than the op see fab as an easy way to have sex then come crying on to the forums that they've been here ten minutes and they don't have a queue of nubile young women at their door

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Im in work thanks actualy but an going to blackpool tomormw for a might out belive it or not with my friends sorry am not off my tits on extacey in a club listeying to terrible music hate to not live up to wots expectations of young people today

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport


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We definitely think it is about attitude rather than age. Unfortunately a lot of young people are, well immature.

However there's quite a few immature older people aswell!

Once you are 18 then it is everyone's individual choice. Who are we to tell them otherwise?"

If you don't mind me asking do you have children? If so may I ask how old they are?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

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You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising.

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire


"

We definitely think it is about attitude rather than age. Unfortunately a lot of young people are, well immature.

However there's quite a few immature older people aswell!

Once you are 18 then it is everyone's individual choice. Who are we to tell them otherwise?

If you don't mind me asking do you have children? If so may I ask how old they are?"

Yes we are parents. Don't see what our childrens age has got to do with it.

If you are going where I think you are going then no we wouldn't be happy if it was our children. We would talk to them about it and try to persuade them to wait and decide later. But then they would be 18 it would be their choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising. "

u butting in again lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I Still have nights out with friends regular and all the other 'normal' stuff young people do. Fail to see how being on here would prevent that from happening.

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising. u butting in again lol "

Yep! I can't help myself, us old uns always got something to say

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By *hoenixcouplexxCouple  over a year ago

Leicestershire

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case"

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes how he lives his life is his business.The age profile of the site is more relevent in answering his question.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising. u butting in again lol

Yep! I can't help myself, us old uns always got something to say

"

not to old for me lol oh and ur teeth still not arrived lol

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport

Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Out of curiosity I see posts stating 21 is too young shouldn't be on fab come back when older

So what should be the minimum age of a member to join fab ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Out of curiosity I see posts stating 21 is too young shouldn't be on fab come back when older

So what should be the minimum age of a member to join fab ?"

Just a thought what about having a chatroom for the young swingers out there they can chat and meet others of the same age or something. Ps what happened to fabs for singles x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

That would be a good idea

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Out of curiosity I see posts stating 21 is too young shouldn't be on fab come back when older

So what should be the minimum age of a member to join fab ?

Just a thought what about having a chatroom for the young swingers out there they can chat and meet others of the same age or something. Ps what happened to fabs for singles x"

Personally I think that's a good idea a young chatroom. But keeping it open to older members too

Most of my meets since I first joined for first time 2 yrs ago have been older women be it a year older or 10 yrs older.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising. "

I agree! If he wants to be on here at 21 looking for different experience then that's his choice. I didn't think there was a rule to say what age is too young.....or too

OP you might want to look again at your profile and try to sell yourself better. Good luck

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I won't play with men my sons age just not for me I prefer my age or older but there are lots of ladies who like younger "

Thats right! Don't scare the young ones away people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate"

I think it is a choice an adult can make,i have met lotsof young people at eureka's and at socials,all to talk to and they were very nice people,i have age block.minimun as i choose not to play with them myself,however they are here and its up to us older generation to welcome them and advise them,not judge them and say they dont belong,as far as im aware everybody is welcome x good luck OP

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By *ing and RideCouple  over a year ago

stockport


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging."

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated"

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By *oftDoMeNowWoman  over a year ago

Wirral


"Im in work thanks actualy but an going to blackpool tomormw for a might out belive it or not with my friends sorry am not off my tits on extacey in a club listeying to terrible music hate to not live up to wots expectations of young people today "

This lad has a point, realistically he's getting a hard time and getting advice such as "go for a nice meal and do a runner"- yeah, stealing is always a brilliant idea

I'm 23 and I don't see the problem with any age group being on here.. This lad is saying he works, has a social life & doesn't do drugs whilst being advised by someone older to break the law? As far as maturity goes, I know who I'd rather be involved with!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thanks for the suportive messages folks proves everyones not so quick to catagorize someone so quick and be so judgmental and make someone feel uninvolved so thanks again al friendly people x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im in work thanks actualy but an going to blackpool tomormw for a might out belive it or not with my friends sorry am not off my tits on extacey in a club listeying to terrible music hate to not live up to wots expectations of young people today

This lad has a point, realistically he's getting a hard time and getting advice such as "go for a nice meal and do a runner"- yeah, stealing is always a brilliant idea

I'm 23 and I don't see the problem with any age group being on here.. This lad is saying he works, has a social life & doesn't do drugs whilst being advised by someone older to break the law? As far as maturity goes, I know who I'd rather be involved with! "

agree entirely great point well made too

Far too mature for your age lmao

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And experience goes a long way too x

Totally agree! erica ur stunning very lucky chap ur hubby

Thank you! "

Totally agree there

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thank you ooft do me now my point exactly xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have been swinging for over 10years and do not feel like I missed out on being young and having fun. I clubbed lots, travelled, went on boozy holidays all of this peppered with swinging. Swinging is not a full time vocation so don't see how it will effect everyday living or achieving age 'appropriate' tasks. If anything I think it has helped me grow as a person has made me more open minded and accepting.

MissD

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By *oftDoMeNowWoman  over a year ago

Wirral


"Im in work thanks actualy but an going to blackpool tomormw for a might out belive it or not with my friends sorry am not off my tits on extacey in a club listeying to terrible music hate to not live up to wots expectations of young people today

Haha thank you

This lad has a point, realistically he's getting a hard time and getting advice such as "go for a nice meal and do a runner"- yeah, stealing is always a brilliant idea

I'm 23 and I don't see the problem with any age group being on here.. This lad is saying he works, has a social life & doesn't do drugs whilst being advised by someone older to break the law? As far as maturity goes, I know who I'd rather be involved with!

agree entirely great point well made too

Far too mature for your age lmao "

Haha thank you

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By *oftDoMeNowWoman  over a year ago

Wirral


"Thank you ooft do me now my point exactly xx"

No problem, being a wool I'm always going to defend a scouser x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im in work thanks actualy but an going to blackpool tomormw for a might out belive it or not with my friends sorry am not off my tits on extacey in a club listeying to terrible music hate to not live up to wots expectations of young people today

Haha thank you

This lad has a point, realistically he's getting a hard time and getting advice such as "go for a nice meal and do a runner"- yeah, stealing is always a brilliant idea

I'm 23 and I don't see the problem with any age group being on here.. This lad is saying he works, has a social life & doesn't do drugs whilst being advised by someone older to break the law? As far as maturity goes, I know who I'd rather be involved with!

agree entirely great point well made too

Far too mature for your age lmao

Haha thank you "

Us youngsters are not all the stereotypical view some people have for our age group werel stick together lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Thank you ooft do me now my point exactly xx

No problem, being a wool I'm always going to defend a scouser x"

am wooling it myself tonight im over in new brighton haha xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok another question. What are your mates doing this weekend....if they are doing something are you going with them? Or are you on here on a Friday night looking for a couple old enough to be your mum and dad or you out. Pre drinks first at someone's house then off to a pub then off to a club. What you doing tomorrow night? "

What if he doesn't have the money or have other responsibilities I used to look after my little brother and sis when I was OPs age so why does he have to ho get pissed at a weekend? Yes 21 is young yet I've seen 18 year old girls on here and on the fab list! So why are they not being judged the same?

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London

Op: as a single male you're in the majority. Couples/single women are spoilt for choice. If you believe being young and hung is all that's required you'll be bitterly disappointed.

You really do need to stand out: you don't. No one's going to ask you questions: Harry Styles would struggle with your profile. Let people know what you're looking for and what you have to offer.

I prefer men older than my children, some aren't fussed: someone for everyone here. Good luck!

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By *uitar_antiheroMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

Balance people, balance. If a guy or girl has a level of maturity, & isn't completely obsessed with using fab then it doesn't matter what age they are. Can a guy not go on holiday with his friends, have a laugh, go on nights out, have a job & also come on here for a little something extra? I hope that the OP & the young lady who are both taking the brunt of this DO get to explore their fantasies. As long as fab doesn't take over their lives.

True, at 21 I wasn't on here, but I wasn't out on the pull, getting wasted & puking into the Mediterranean either. Not all young people crave that kinda existence.

As for the age thing, it'll always be an issue. I went to a social & got the same attitude from some people; "you're too young, should be out with your mates etc" cos they mistook me for a lot younger. When I told them my age they were suddenly fine with it.

Finally, the profile. To the OP - I haven't looked at yours but if you want to get anywhere you need to put a bit about yourself & let your personality show on it.

Right, I'm done here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hi OP, people have already suggested that you work on your profile I know but if as you have said you are here because you want to explore fantasies and fetishes then write about it, how can people know that if you don't say? Only a small minority of people use the forums - altho there are plenty who read them without contributing!!

Liked the comment about opening the bidding, it shows you have a sense of humour and can take a joke which goes a long way for many, this is supposed to be about fun.

It's true a lot of the more mature (in age not necessarily in attitude!) swingers will not contemplate meeting someone the same age as their kids but there are plenty of people on here younger and willing!!

It can be tough as a single male whatever age you are so don't expect too much, if you get meets its a happy bonus whatever age you are.

Good luck and have fun

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

agree with you GA.

yes, i have asked why younger people have been on here rather than being out in the big wide world, enjoying themselves, and are usually met with responsible, mature answers about pubs not being their thing, would rather meet others that are like minded and so on, nothing at all about wanting to get rat arsed and lay the first thing that shows a flash of leg.

although, there are much older people on here that would do the latter lol.

the thing is, when i was 18-22/23 there wasnt this facility to utilise.

yes, there were internet chatrooms (aol ones were awesome) but nothing of this magnitude where you could talk about things, organise things, get to know people and so on.

this is a wonderful place to be able to meet people on the same wavelength, no matter the age, its the attitude and level of maturity for me.

V will obviously have a differing opinion having kids of the OPs age, but for me, a 20 year old girl would be fine, as long as she wasnt a young 20, if that makes sense

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hi OP, people have already suggested that you work on your profile I know but if as you have said you are here because you want to explore fantasies and fetishes then write about it, how can people know that if you don't say? Only a small minority of people use the forums - altho there are plenty who read them without contributing!!

Liked the comment about opening the bidding, it shows you have a sense of humour and can take a joke which goes a long way for many, this is supposed to be about fun.

It's true a lot of the more mature (in age not necessarily in attitude!) swingers will not contemplate meeting someone the same age as their kids but there are plenty of people on here younger and willing!!

It can be tough as a single male whatever age you are so don't expect too much, if you get meets its a happy bonus whatever age you are.

Good luck and have fun "

Completely agree not even looking for meets atm but love the people here and love the mature open conversations x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated" "

contact magazines.

the world didnt start with the invention of the internet, you know.

in the times of contact mags, those that swung were less likely to be timewasters or chancers for the amount of time it took to organise anything by post lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It depends really.

Many of us put an age limit on not because we think younger people are not adult enough but because we think it's morally wrong to have sex with people the same age our kids.

Obviously people do vary and I've met women who only play with much younger men.

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By *uitar_antiheroMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

I agree with you Herc.

There are mature young folk here who aren't interested in weekends revolving round drinking & d*unkenly screwing & others who are. Same goes for those in their 30s, 40s etc.

I wish people wouldn't tar everyone of a group with the same brush be it based on age, gender, whether they are on as singles or couples or whatever it might be.

& yes I know what you mean about a young 20.

I have spoken to - though not met - a very mature girl of 18 on here. Talks a lot more sense than many twice her age. Others are admittedly wee kids wanting to be grown up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Had a shit shag with a 20 year old, had a shit shag with a 50 year old. Same story with great sex.

I had my first experience at 21. I didn't get chastised like this but you blokes are often fair game.

You're a really gorgeous bloke, enjoy those people you meet and try doing searches where people specifically want your age range. You'll find what you're looking for, for a lot you will be too young, for some you won't.

As long as you turn up when you say you will, be respectful and patient you'll build a good reputation and get busier.

Nobody here owns the lifestyle so ignore arbitrary rule setting!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Attitude and maturity are more important than age. As this thread shows, age is no guarantee of the former.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My Moto - If you could have given birth to it, stay away from it xxx

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By *ivilizedkinkCouple  over a year ago

harrow


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS.

Just because he's young doesn't mean he shouldn't be here. I'm young, does that mean I shouldn't be here either? Even though I belong in places like this. "

you totally belong here hun x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think I've ever read such a condescending patronising thread

The minimum age to join Fab is 18. Yes there's lots of people, ourselves included who won't play with anyone that young as preference, but they are fully entitled to enjoy this site and the swinging lifestyle as much as anyone else.

Good luck OP

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I started swinging at 19. I certainly wished they had the internet back then!

If the OP is mature enough to handle it what's stopping him being a 'normal' 21 year old and being on here. Surely you can have the best of both worlds??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I have with younger than you

However your profile and attitude has to be inviting

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By *iverpool LoverMan  over a year ago

liverpool


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!"

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

With the attitude of o p not suprised i have cheese in fridge thats more mature based on the post

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS."

How rude ! Of course he is not too young

If he conducts himself in the correct fashion as everyone else should then he is as welcome as you and I

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But in fairness to the OP there are just many crappy couples/ladies profiles with very little or no content.

I was mooching (looking for pervs) last night and saw many that said

"looking for fun"

That was it.

Just saying that making an effort is something that we all should aim to do to be successful,not just guys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate"

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

21 year old new to swinging vs a 35+ hardened swinger.

there is no competition. I find, the older the man, the more he knows a woman's body. I would never meet a guy so young

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By *orroHoodMan  over a year ago

London

Can't believe the attitude of certain people. It's like they want to keep this site for themselves only and not let the young crowd in

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By *ingjayMan  over a year ago

exeter


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

"

My fwb is 19 we go to local club about it once was a month (usually kink night) she has got a valanc and of a normal youth and a decent social life, she s not on here but we have met couples from here , you come across as very ageist!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He is younger than my daughter, so I wouldn't go there? But it's his choice to be here and he will appeal to a lot of women as (maybe i shouldn't say this) he is cute looking and I'm sure has a social life outside of here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another. "

I agree young or old dont judge, just be happy in what you choose to do, swinging is for all ages not just the middle aged

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"21 year old new to swinging vs a 35+ hardened swinger.

there is no competition. I find, the older the man, the more he knows a woman's body. I would never meet a guy so young"

And for everyone there is a type. 21 isn't for you (and maybe me) however the idea of someone hardened to swinging could quite easily translate as jaded so that doesn't appeal to everyone either.

Age is no guarantee that a person will be good in bed, neither will years swinging Im afraid.

Young and fearless or young and needing teaching appeals to lots of folks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At 21 if all of this had been so readily available then id have been having loads of fun,I loved experimenting sexually,like the OP says this can be a door to achieving lots of fantasies,hes past the age of consent by a good few yrs good luck to him

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Out of curiosity I see posts stating 21 is too young shouldn't be on fab come back when older

So what should be the minimum age of a member to join fab ?"

Well apparently the 21 year old needs to come back in 10 years so I guess 31 (bye then cos you're a mere toddler)

Excellent, 31. Half the swingers would be gone overnight, as would probably more than half the fun!

Amazing that people think swinging belongs to them because they're old.

Almost feel like propositioning a few 21 year olds out of protest!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i recently men a 20 year old. its more about whats available at the time.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising. "

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By *encarolCouple  over a year ago

Tyneside

Age is just a number, we have met people from the ages of 18 to 62.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol"

really dislike people using the word jealous for giving an opinion.

a very valid reason they cant get meets with young uns, may well be because they dont WANT meets with young uns.

has piss all to do with jealousy.

just because you would drop your knickers for someone young enough to be your son, and V wouldnt, for arguments sake, has nothing to do with being jealous.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"My Moto - If you could have given birth to it, stay away from it xxx"

I could have given birth to the men in their thirties that we mix with, I wouldn't be so rude as to call them it or assume that they were too young know if they wanted to have sex with me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol

really dislike people using the word jealous for giving an opinion.

a very valid reason they cant get meets with young uns, may well be because they dont WANT meets with young uns.

has piss all to do with jealousy.

just because you would drop your knickers for someone young enough to be your son, and V wouldnt, for arguments sake, has nothing to do with being jealous."

I don't drop my knickers for anyone at all thanks

......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol

really dislike people using the word jealous for giving an opinion.

a very valid reason they cant get meets with young uns, may well be because they dont WANT meets with young uns.

has piss all to do with jealousy.

just because you would drop your knickers for someone young enough to be your son, and V wouldnt, for arguments sake, has nothing to do with being jealous.

I don't drop my knickers for anyone at all thanks

......"

you keep them pulled up?

do you have them crotchless ones?

must admit, they are very much easier lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol

really dislike people using the word jealous for giving an opinion.

a very valid reason they cant get meets with young uns, may well be because they dont WANT meets with young uns.

has piss all to do with jealousy.

just because you would drop your knickers for someone young enough to be your son, and V wouldnt, for arguments sake, has nothing to do with being jealous."

Plus they may not want to meet younger people

But there is no need to then try and bully young people into leaving fab

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol

really dislike people using the word jealous for giving an opinion.

a very valid reason they cant get meets with young uns, may well be because they dont WANT meets with young uns.

has piss all to do with jealousy.

just because you would drop your knickers for someone young enough to be your son, and V wouldnt, for arguments sake, has nothing to do with being jealous.

I don't drop my knickers for anyone at all thanks

......

you keep them pulled up?

do you have them crotchless ones?

must admit, they are very much easier lol"

Nope I just don't have sex ...

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated" "

Yes we have children, no grandchildren yet. What I hope for them is that they have safe, happy, experimental sex lives in whatever way they choose with partners who enjoy the same as them.

I'm not here to educate anyone and indeed there is no educating some however contact magazines were around in the seventies and eighties along with discreet adverts in the back of newspapers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But there is no need to then try and bully young people into leaving fab "

tbf, i have to totally agree wit hyou on that, as much as its wrong to bully any legitimate member to leave.

you dont have sex?

what a waste.... lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS.

Just because he's young doesn't mean he shouldn't be here. I'm young, does that mean I shouldn't be here either? Even though I belong in places like this.

Oh please..... Get a life.. 21 on a swinging site sorry but you need to get out more. You belong in places like this. Places like what exactly, what are you saying. You need to get a life and get out with your mates, be young, be happy, get pissed, go to Ibiza and get wasted, live a little. Enjoy life and have fun with your mates"

So based on that statement your on here because you don't have a life?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated"

Yes we have children, no grandchildren yet. What I hope for them is that they have safe, happy, experimental sex lives in whatever way they choose with partners who enjoy the same as them.

I'm not here to educate anyone and indeed there is no educating some however contact magazines were around in the seventies and eighties along with discreet adverts in the back of newspapers. "

the problem with that is, your children are now growing up in an age where most of their social interaction is carried out on electronic media.

yes, when you were younger, the only way to meet people was to be sat down the local hip n happenin joint (see what i did there? be glad i didnt say the hop lol)

but nowadays, entire parties can be organised without hearing the voice, let alone seeing the face, of the person you are going to see and spend a night drinking/partying with.

thats the way of the world now.

so, sexual contact and interaction si going the same way.

no more hanging out the back of some young lass at the local disco

no more chatting to the bloke at the bus stop and going back to his for a quick fumble and a walnut whip.

for young uns now, that understand it all, there is vyber. kik, whatsapp and a multitude of other apps and websites to enable people to get hook ups without the need to go into town and get hammered first.

so to say you hope your kids would never do it, is to say you hope your ids dont fit in with their peers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But there is no need to then try and bully young people into leaving fab

tbf, i have to totally agree wit hyou on that, as much as its wrong to bully any legitimate member to leave.

you dont have sex?

what a waste.... lol"

Good lol

I am always right

Yes lol maybe a waste but I like it lol I would with someone exceptional

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS."

What a stupid thing to say

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"

But there is no need to then try and bully young people into leaving fab

tbf, i have to totally agree wit hyou on that, as much as its wrong to bully any legitimate member to leave.

you dont have sex?

what a waste.... lol

Good lol

I am always right

Yes lol maybe a waste but I like it lol I would with someone exceptional "

That us how it should be

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But there is no need to then try and bully young people into leaving fab

tbf, i have to totally agree wit hyou on that, as much as its wrong to bully any legitimate member to leave.

you dont have sex?

what a waste.... lol

Good lol

I am always right

Yes lol maybe a waste but I like it lol I would with someone exceptional

That us how it should be "

Yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS.

Just because he's young doesn't mean he shouldn't be here. I'm young, does that mean I shouldn't be here either? Even though I belong in places like this.

Oh please..... Get a life.. 21 on a swinging site sorry but you need to get out more. You belong in places like this. Places like what exactly, what are you saying. You need to get a life and get out with your mates, be young, be happy, get pissed, go to Ibiza and get wasted, live a little. Enjoy life and have fun with your mates"

Lol have you heard yourself?? 'get a life' soooo what your saying is if you swing you have no life... You included? Think if swinging IS your life then yes you have no life! you can have your normal social life and swing... Think you should get out more by the sounds of it lol

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated"

Yes we have children, no grandchildren yet. What I hope for them is that they have safe, happy, experimental sex lives in whatever way they choose with partners who enjoy the same as them.

I'm not here to educate anyone and indeed there is no educating some however contact magazines were around in the seventies and eighties along with discreet adverts in the back of newspapers.

the problem with that is, your children are now growing up in an age where most of their social interaction is carried out on electronic media.

yes, when you were younger, the only way to meet people was to be sat down the local hip n happenin joint (see what i did there? be glad i didnt say the hop lol)

but nowadays, entire parties can be organised without hearing the voice, let alone seeing the face, of the person you are going to see and spend a night drinking/partying with.

thats the way of the world now.

so, sexual contact and interaction si going the same way.

no more hanging out the back of some young lass at the local disco

no more chatting to the bloke at the bus stop and going back to his for a quick fumble and a walnut whip.

for young uns now, that understand it all, there is vyber. kik, whatsapp and a multitude of other apps and websites to enable people to get hook ups without the need to go into town and get hammered first.

so to say you hope your kids would never do it, is to say you hope your ids

dont fit in with their peers"

Eh? I didn't say I hope my kids never do it. They are very much kids of their time I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to imply about me or my children here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another. "

Should be looking after your grandkids and reading books.... How do you feel about that rude right? Yeah my point exactly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lol I remember getting those, writing letters and sending off poloroids haha. It took forever to get replies

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another.

Should be looking after your grandkids and reading books.... How do you feel about that rude right? Yeah my point exactly"

I haven't got any grandchildren what am I going to do?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another. "

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"Lol I remember getting those, writing letters and sending off poloroids haha. It took forever to get replies "

I used to work for a publication that ran contact ads on the back pages, and had.box numbers for replies, you wouldn't believe what people sent each other.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I Still have nights out with friends regular and all the other 'normal' stuff young people do. Fail to see how being on here would prevent that from happening. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lol I remember getting those, writing letters and sending off poloroids haha. It took forever to get replies

I used to work for a publication that ran contact ads on the back pages, and had.box numbers for replies, you wouldn't believe what people sent each other. "

Wow that's the worlds best job

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

But there is no need to then try and bully young people into leaving fab

tbf, i have to totally agree wit hyou on that, as much as its wrong to bully any legitimate member to leave.

you dont have sex?

what a waste.... lol

Good lol

I am always right

Yes lol maybe a waste but I like it lol I would with someone exceptional "

you have boobs, so law of nature suggests even when your wrong, your right lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok so the majority of us swinging folk think a 21year old guy on here is acceptable. Would add normal but can't be arsed with the shit that would generate

For god sake Shut up!!!!!!

after reading this whole thread, pammyandtommy seem to have a huge chip on his/her shoulder.

patronising and immature.

telling somone of 21 they shouldnt be here and should be having meals and running away. Pftt

maybe the op should be knocking on peoples houses and running away too if thats how you see 21 year olds?

Good luck op enjoy fab mate

I agree

I thibk they are just jealous thy can't get meets with young uns

Oh ps

Had to fab all your pics lol

really dislike people using the word jealous for giving an opinion.

a very valid reason they cant get meets with young uns, may well be because they dont WANT meets with young uns.

has piss all to do with jealousy.

just because you would drop your knickers for someone young enough to be your son, and V wouldnt, for arguments sake, has nothing to do with being jealous."

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another.

Should be looking after your grandkids and reading books.... How do you feel about that rude right? Yeah my point exactly

I haven't got any grandchildren what am I going to do? "

Swingggggggggg

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By *quirrelMan  over a year ago

East Manchester

Having read nearly all the replies to the OP if Its a safe statement to say that no one's is saying he shouldn't be on here, what is being said by the majority is that they wouldn't want to meet him.

His original post was to claim he was being ignored because of his age, this may be partially true, but everybody has free will and a right to choose who they will meet.

People mature at different ages and by experience (I teach at 6th form &

FE college) the girl's mature at an earlier age than boys.

Perhaps he should re-read his profile and consider a rewrite.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated"

Yes we have children, no grandchildren yet. What I hope for them is that they have safe, happy, experimental sex lives in whatever way they choose with partners who enjoy the same as them.

I'm not here to educate anyone and indeed there is no educating some however contact magazines were around in the seventies and eighties along with discreet adverts in the back of newspapers.

the problem with that is, your children are now growing up in an age where most of their social interaction is carried out on electronic media.

yes, when you were younger, the only way to meet people was to be sat down the local hip n happenin joint (see what i did there? be glad i didnt say the hop lol)

but nowadays, entire parties can be organised without hearing the voice, let alone seeing the face, of the person you are going to see and spend a night drinking/partying with.

thats the way of the world now.

so, sexual contact and interaction si going the same way.

no more hanging out the back of some young lass at the local disco

no more chatting to the bloke at the bus stop and going back to his for a quick fumble and a walnut whip.

for young uns now, that understand it all, there is vyber. kik, whatsapp and a multitude of other apps and websites to enable people to get hook ups without the need to go into town and get hammered first.

so to say you hope your kids would never do it, is to say you hope your ids

dont fit in with their peers

Eh? I didn't say I hope my kids never do it. They are very much kids of their time I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to imply about me or my children here."

not implying anything about anyone.

you said the OP should be out living his life.

im saying the vast majority of young peoples lives, these days, are lived out over electronic media, whether it be facebook, myspace and any number of social media outlets, and it stands to reason romantic, or sexual liason can be gained and organised over these media.

so, whether it be fab, POV or wherever, electronic contact is at the core of most, not all, but most, young people lives.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another.

Should be looking after your grandkids and reading books.... How do you feel about that rude right? Yeah my point exactly

I haven't got any grandchildren what am I going to do? "

Swingggggggggg

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol "

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Having read nearly all the replies to the OP if Its a safe statement to say that no one's is saying he shouldn't be on here, what is being said by the majority is that they wouldn't want to meet him.

His original post was to claim he was being ignored because of his age, this may be partially true, but everybody has free will and a right to choose who they will meet.

People mature at different ages and by experience (I teach at 6th form &

FE college) the girl's mature at an earlier age than boys.

Perhaps he should re-read his profile and consider a rewrite."

No one? Have you read the same thread as me? One couple have said he's too young to be here and then continued to patronise the OP Maybe you need to go back and read ALL the answers

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Genuinely surprised how patronising some people can be on here; "You're 21 go get a life"?? Are you being serious?

I joined fab when I was 21. My reasons;

1) Everyone I knew my age wanted a relationship. That's not what I was looking for.

2) I don't like people in my personal life knowing anything about my sexual life and it's more likely to stay discrete on here than in 'reality'

3) Certain 'kinks' and fantasies that I had, a lot of people my age at the time, that I knew, would not have been ready for (3 years on and they still aren't!)

I'm extremely confident, outgoing and intelligent but still on fab... reckon I'm missing out on life? No just living it exactly how I want to live it. Just like the OP is on here. The last thing we need is patronising people putting young, genuine, single males off fab.

/end rant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?"

Well who knows? Unless you know them in person who are you to say they aren't jealous that there over 50 and they have some kind of chip on there shoulder because the op are just starting out again in there swinging lives....? And btw I'm not saying this is the case but who's to know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?

Well who knows? Unless you know them in person who are you to say they aren't jealous that there over 50 and they have some kind of chip on there shoulder because the op are just starting out again in there swinging lives....? And btw I'm not saying this is the case but who's to know "

*know them personally

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?

Well who knows? Unless you know them in person who are you to say they aren't jealous that there over 50 and they have some kind of chip on there shoulder because the op are just starting out again in there swinging lives....? And btw I'm not saying this is the case but who's to know "

Lots of older people are jealous of young people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In short then op, yes your age will go against you and you need to improve your profile.

All this is very interesting, my partner is 21 and we have had no problem getting meets especially with the older generation. The right people are out there you just need to find them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?

Well who knows? Unless you know them in person who are you to say they aren't jealous that there over 50 and they have some kind of chip on there shoulder because the op are just starting out again in there swinging lives....? And btw I'm not saying this is the case but who's to know

Lots of older people are jealous of young people. "

How do you come to that assumption

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Points against OP:-

1 He is a single male on a site where there are at least 10 single males for every female.

2 He has a really bad profile

3 He is young

Don't think he is being ignored on here any more than every other single male who can't be bothered to write a good profile. Age is against him but is the minor factor in the equation

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In short then op, yes your age will go against you and you need to improve your profile.

All this is very interesting, my partner is 21 and we have had no problem getting meets especially with the older generation. The right people are out there you just need to find them "

Unfortunately, I think there's a bias against younger guys and younger girls are more than welcome on fab.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?

Well who knows? Unless you know them in person who are you to say they aren't jealous that there over 50 and they have some kind of chip on there shoulder because the op are just starting out again in there swinging lives....? And btw I'm not saying this is the case but who's to know

Lots of older people are jealous of young people.

How do you come to that assumption "

Most people just know that to be the case. on occasion i have met a very young man with a very old man, even when they didnt actualy admit they were jealous of the much younger man it was so obvious they were.

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I note you are both 56 and 57 respectively ... I rest my case

Are you referring to us? You don't know when we started swinging.

No I don't your right, nor do I care but I bet my mortgage you have kids or grand kids and you wouldn't be happy if they were on here at 21 and if you don't have kids you wouldn't be happy if they were on here if you some.

Just being curious how many years ago did you start swinging. If you were the same age of the chap in question it must be 30 plus given your age. Did they have swinging sites 30 plus years ago, I don't think we had the internet....so pray tell when did you start and gosh how....if the net wasn't invented.

"Get brew light fag and am prepared to be educated"

Yes we have children, no grandchildren yet. What I hope for them is that they have safe, happy, experimental sex lives in whatever way they choose with partners who enjoy the same as them.

I'm not here to educate anyone and indeed there is no educating some however contact magazines were around in the seventies and eighties along with discreet adverts in the back of newspapers.

the problem with that is, your children are now growing up in an age where most of their social interaction is carried out on electronic media.

yes, when you were younger, the only way to meet people was to be sat down the local hip n happenin joint (see what i did there? be glad i didnt say the hop lol)

but nowadays, entire parties can be organised without hearing the voice, let alone seeing the face, of the person you are going to see and spend a night drinking/partying with.

thats the way of the world now.

so, sexual contact and interaction si going the same way.

no more hanging out the back of some young lass at the local disco

no more chatting to the bloke at the bus stop and going back to his for a quick fumble and a walnut whip.

for young uns now, that understand it all, there is vyber. kik, whatsapp and a multitude of other apps and websites to enable people to get hook ups without the need to go into town and get hammered first.

so to say you hope your kids would never do it, is to say you hope your ids

dont fit in with their peers

Eh? I didn't say I hope my kids never do it. They are very much kids of their time I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to imply about me or my children here.

not implying anything about anyone.

you said the OP should be out living his life.

im saying the vast majority of young peoples lives, these days, are lived out over electronic media, whether it be facebook, myspace and any number of social media outlets, and it stands to reason romantic, or sexual liason can be gained and organised over these media.

so, whether it be fab, POV or wherever, electronic contact is at the core of most, not all, but most, young people lives. "

Nope! I think that the amount of quotes and re-quotes has lead to you thinking I said something I didn't

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"No I just think it is very very sad.

I could say the same about older people. Should be at home with a cuppa and ya slippers on. But I wouldn't say that because people choose how they live and that's fine. No one has a right to judge another.

Should be looking after your grandkids and reading books.... How do you feel about that rude right? Yeah my point exactly

I haven't got any grandchildren what am I going to do?

Swingggggggggg "

yea but I've missed the three month window in my life when its acceptable for me to do that

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They didn't just say they didn't want to meet young people they said if you bothered to read the whole thread that is was not acceptable for a 21yr old to be on fab!? And to also 'get a life' lol

i know, but that still doesnt equate to jealousy though, does it?

Well who knows? Unless you know them in person who are you to say they aren't jealous that there over 50 and they have some kind of chip on there shoulder because the op are just starting out again in there swinging lives....? And btw I'm not saying this is the case but who's to know

Lots of older people are jealous of young people.

How do you come to that assumption "

Just another sweeping generalisation! Lord, I wouldn't want to be young again if I was paid to be!! My life is the best its ever been - if I could stop the clock now for a few years and enjoy it as it is now I would seriously consider it but being young again - NO WAY!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points against OP:-

1 He is a single male on a site where there are at least 10 single males for every female.

2 He has a really bad profile

3 He is youngyoung

Don't think he is being ignored on here any more than every other single male who can't be bothered to write a good profile. Age is against him but is the minor factor in the equation "

Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys?

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By *reelove1969Couple  over a year ago

bristol

prefer the more mature guy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points against OP:-

1 He is a single male on a site where there are at least 10 single males for every female.

2 He has a really bad profile

3 He is youngyoung

Don't think he is being ignored on here any more than every other single male who can't be bothered to write a good profile. Age is against him but is the minor factor in the equation

Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys? "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points against OP:-

1 He is a single male on a site where there are at least 10 single males for every female.

2 He has a really bad profile

3 He is youngyoung

Don't think he is being ignored on here any more than every other single male who can't be bothered to write a good profile. Age is against him but is the minor factor in the equation

Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys? "

That's very true. But ranty profile's get you no where and the OP's is very short and ranty. Have you read?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points against OP:-

1 He is a single male on a site where there are at least 10 single males for every female.

2 He has a really bad profile

3 He is youngyoung

Don't think he is being ignored on here any more than every other single male who can't be bothered to write a good profile. Age is against him but is the minor factor in the equation

Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys?

That's very true. But ranty profile's get you no where and the OP's is very short and ranty. Have you read? "

It's not a profile that is inviting, odd really as the op has come across differently and more favourably in this posting.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Points against OP:-

1 He is a single male on a site where there are at least 10 single males for every female.

2 He has a really bad profile

3 He is youngyoung

Don't think he is being ignored on here any more than every other single male who can't be bothered to write a good profile. Age is against him but is the minor factor in the equation

Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys?

That's very true. But ranty profile's get you no where and the OP's is very short and ranty. Have you read?

It's not a profile that is inviting, odd really as the op has come across differently and more favourably in this posting."

almost certain that wasnt like that last night.

could be wrong though.

it was late.

looks like someone isnt as mature as he comes across as.

and thats not a slight on the OPs age, but more on attitude.

have seen people twice his age spit the dummy and write a ranty profile similar

ah well, shooting oneself in the foot

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think you'll find that the OP has had a re write after reading some of the patronising comments on this thread. That wasn't his original profile!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i dont think many have been personal, tbh.

its been more a young Vs old thread, rather than the OP being X Y or Z.

unfortunately, i think he has lived up to some peoples short sighted opinions of young lads being immature by doing what he has done

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You are the same age as my son who is at uni. Go and have fun with your mates and go clubbing as mine does. You are far to young to be on here FFS."

I guess being old does have one advantage in that we aren't told we shouldn't be here..... Well not for age related reasons anyhow

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys? "

Buyers market, a female aged 20 - 49 could put up a profile with no pics saying just "Available" and would get 50+ messages probably telling her how her profile struck a chord and her pictures are so sexy!

Couples well there are approximately the same number of couples looking for couples as there are couples!

Single guys looking for single females or couples have to do a lot more work, when the day comes that single females outnumber the single guys 10 to 1 then it will be easier for 21 year old men to score.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think you'll find that the OP has had a re write after reading some of the patronising comments on this thread. That wasn't his original profile!!"

I don't blame him for re-writing, in that case, but patronising folk with idiotic viewpoints should push him to do that. That's exactly what I was referring to in my first post up there whwn I said the last thing we need is people scaring off decent single males.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's fair enough that people don't want to meet younger members...and in the same way I think it's fair enough for everyone to set their own age limits and filters but to tell someone to "get a life" and that they are "far too young to be on here" beggars belief! Who are we to judge others' reasons for being on here?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think you'll find that the OP has had a re write after reading some of the patronising comments on this thread. That wasn't his original profile!!

I don't blame him for re-writing, in that case, but patronising folk with idiotic viewpoints should push him to do that. That's exactly what I was referring to in my first post up there whwn I said the last thing we need is people scaring off decent single males. "

exactly. There's room on Fab for people of all ages and no one needs to be patronising towards anyone regardless of their young age!

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By *quirrelMan  over a year ago

East Manchester

Does it make a difference he has changed his profile?

Now he has got some interest anyone reading his profile will now see him in a different light, he did himself no favours with the tone and attitude of the new profile.

Because you do not get what you want the mature attitude is to find out why you cannot have it examine why you cannot have it, not throw teddy in the corner and act like a spoilt brat.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does it make a difference he has changed his profile?

Now he has got some interest anyone reading his profile will now see him in a different light, he did himself no favours with the tone and attitude of the new profile.

Because you do not get what you want the mature attitude is to find out why you cannot have it examine why you cannot have it, not throw teddy in the corner and act like a spoilt brat."

And was it mature for a couple in their 50's to tell him he shouldn't be on here, to get a life, to go and get d*unk and shag on a balcony? Oh and not forgetting going for a meal then running off without paying! Hmm maturity doesn't always come with age it seems!;

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love a good bun fight

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does it make a difference he has changed his profile?

Now he has got some interest anyone reading his profile will now see him in a different light, he did himself no favours with the tone and attitude of the new profile.

Because you do not get what you want the mature attitude is to find out why you cannot have it examine why you cannot have it, not throw teddy in the corner and act like a spoilt brat.

And was it mature for a couple in their 50's to tell him he shouldn't be on here, to get a life, to go and get d*unk and shag on a balcony? Oh and not forgetting going for a meal then running off without paying! Hmm maturity doesn't always come with age it seems!; "

Think this proves that maturity does not always come with age sometimes it's lost!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Lots of couples can't be bothered either tho?

I've seen many, many crappy ones from couples and females, surely everyone should be bothered, not just the guys?

Buyers market, a female aged 20 - 49 could put up a profile with no pics saying just "Available" and would get 50+ messages probably telling her how her profile struck a chord and her pictures are so sexy!

Couples well there are approximately the same number of couples looking for couples as there are couples!

Single guys looking for single females or couples have to do a lot more work, when the day comes that single females outnumber the single guys 10 to 1 then it will be easier for 21 year old men to score.

"

That's very true, we had a hundred messages within an hour so had to act with filtering. It changed how we communicate but not how we behave. It seems a bit arrogant to just think as a couple or woman that only men should be compelled to make an effort. I would never want a physical encounter with someone(s) who saw it as such.

Just to be clear, not saying this as you being arrogant, just the point you made strikes me that's how I'd feel if I was a guy and saw a crappy profile listing nothing but demands.

Just as we couples can be choosy, so can decent blokes who want something a bit less one-sided.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one has time for younger people on here if your looking to spice shit up wouldnt young attitude and energy be the ideal solution well if anyone in the north west agrees then here i am "

Why I don't pick guys your age - most come on here with the attitude that it's instashag site and not swingers site, and for that I'll pick the ones that are patient and non pushy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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That's very true, we had a hundred messages within an hour so had to act with filtering. It changed how we communicate but not how we behave. It seems a bit arrogant to just think as a couple or woman that only men should be compelled to make an effort. I would never want a physical encounter with someone(s) who saw it as such.

Just to be clear, not saying this as you being arrogant, just the point you made strikes me that's how I'd feel if I was a guy and saw a crappy profile listing nothing but demands.

Just as we couples can be choosy, so can decent blokes who want something a bit less one-sided."

without the help of meeting face to face in a first instance, a profile is your main selling point, whether it be the wording or the pictures, they all go towards showing others how you perceive yourself, or how you want others to perceive you.

thats why i cringe a little when people ask for specifics as to how to improve their chances.

robbing, say, our profile wouldnt work for you, and vice versa.

if you arent very creative then dont try to be so, just be honest and that SHOULD be enough.

so agree with you whole heartedly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No one has time for younger people on here if your looking to spice shit up wouldnt young attitude and energy be the ideal solution well if anyone in the north west agrees then here i am

Why I don't pick guys your age - most come on here with the attitude that it's instashag site and not swingers site, and for that I'll pick the ones that are patient and non pushy "

that has NOTHING to do with being young, and everything to do with attitude.

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By *uitar_antiheroMan  over a year ago

Glasgow

Everyone calm down, I'm putting the kettle on. Grab your mug & follow me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everyone's preferences are different, some may like the younger type and some may like the older. Your age shouldn't define whether it's ok to be on this site. Everyone has the choice to experiment and see what things are about, so people need to stop judging others based on their age. You've got to start somewhere... Just as you all did...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We're gonna fight for his right to paaaarty.

But of course quoting the Beastie Boys just shows my age.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And another thing....you want to fulfil your fantasies!!!!!! What are you talking about. You fulfil everything now at 21 what you got to look forward to by the time you are 25. Don't rush your youth away seriously, time enough to be on a site like this when you have done that and got the tee shirt.

Go and book a holiday and have sex with young 21 year olds how don't want a nice meal and few drinks and a shag on the balcony because it's "daring" "

I agree with your comments about living whilst your young... But this is a website not a life sentence! Sure people both young and old on here also have a real life and do go and do the things you mention as well!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Youth isn't a crime and there's no need to be patronising and rude because young person is doing exactly the same as older people.

It's tough for single men, it's even tougher for young single men, stick it out, grow a thick skin and get involved, good luck.

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+1

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By *nlyfun3Woman  over a year ago

NEAR Berkhamsted,Herts

Op the biggest problem i find tbh is that ur profile range says 18 to 80. But in your profile you are asking for someone of a similar age. For that reason alone i wouldnt contact you as im not a similar age!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anyone seen that program on tv about couples with big age gaps ?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"I not giving you a hard time mate just trying to put a grown up view on it. Ten years come back and enjoy..... You are 21 darling....please go out and have fun. As I said pre drinks, pub, club, fun fun. Time for this when you are older. Please enjoy your life. You are just starting out.......hey have a meal and do a runner be wicked be wild and have fun with your mates.

You might not be giving him a hard time but you're being incredibly patronising. u butting in again lol

Yep! I can't help myself, us old uns always got something to say

not to old for me lol oh and ur teeth still not arrived lol "

Well I caught the postman using them to bite the dog back so I've rinsed them round with a drop of bleach and popped them in a jiffy bag for you, if you haven't got them by Wednesday that bugger in the sorting office will be out the back giving himslef a pretend blow job with them again

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By *aledCouple  over a year ago

newcastle

Some couples prefer younger guys, good luck op

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some old people's attitude on here stinks. With age doesn't always come wisdom or manners

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