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Bareback insistence.... EH?

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Interested to hear the forums thoughts on the profiles insisting on bareback meets only.

Common sense prevails ladies and chaps. Of course once you get to know people you can relax certain precautions, based on their living habits, general health and their approach to selecting partners and friends.

Of course as we are all adults we know that your only as sexually healthy as your last partner that you practised unprotected sex with, and that you can't ever be 100% sure even about your fulltime spouse/partner (especially if like me you work away from home/country for lengthy periods lol)

I'm really addressing the peeps who insist on bareback sex on the first instance of play, I've seen some couples for example who only play bareback whilst dogging, and incredibly simply state a time and a place, join the queue, no condoms chaps!fire in!

I just don't understand the mentality, of course we all prefer skin on skin, and who doesn't like a messy facial! But with all the STD's and the current rise again of HIV, I'm simply asking, why?

If you practise/request this on your profile, are you worried? Does the question arise? What makes it worth the risk, not just to get to know somebody first at least?

Have you attended a bareback meet with a couple/single you have never met before? We're you worried afterwards?

It's not a witch hunt, I personally find it incredibly irresponsible and reckless bit I'd be interested in your _iews.

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By *pecifically1Woman over a year ago

Hull

at the end of the day anyone who plays bareback is taking their own risks...that is their choice...

If it's not for you then don't entertain it..

If you have concerns as long as you always play safe then it reduces your risk

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"at the end of the day anyone who plays bareback is taking their own risks...that is their choice...

If it's not for you then don't entertain it..

If you have concerns as long as you always play safe then it reduces your risk"

Thanks. That doesn't really educate or make a point of _iew though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"at the end of the day anyone who plays bareback is taking their own risks...that is their choice...

If it's not for you then don't entertain it..

If you have concerns as long as you always play safe then it reduces your risk

Thanks. That doesn't really educate or make a point of _iew though."

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?"

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Why bother replying?"

Because they felt like it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I suppose, at the end of the day, its just another preference, all be it a risky one. It would put me off totally but at least they are honest about it to enable you to make a choice about whether they are the type of people you want to meet. How people run their lives is up to them, if you want no part then it doesn't affect you.

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By *amamanMan over a year ago

Inverness and around. ...

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By *amamanMan over a year ago

Inverness and around. ...

I recently looked at some one who really interested me then took a look at there verifications only too find someone they have met twice who loves bare back anal....

They also went on to say it was encouraged. ...

so needless to say not interested as I hope to live a long while yet

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?"

It's an open forum!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"we drink and have in the past taken drugs and also on occasions drove over the speed limit like many on here, and also kitesurf a sport which has killed many people and even a friend, but we weighed up the risks beforehand and decided to go ahead. we all take risks and this is a risk they choose, they probably evaluate the risk reward ratio and decide it's for them simple as that !! "

It's a case of each to their own , doesn't matter what anyone think about it or even how many post in utter contempt at their actions.

It's the same as bi men ,

I personally won't have random sex with police , social workers traffic wardens or people that smell , or even people that are just down right rude.

Just because I am on a swingers site does not mean I have to sleep with everyone that messages me , and conform to their idea of what it should be like.

If someone wants sex with me it's on my terms and if you don't like it press block and move onto the next one , as quite a few have already

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Unfathomable to seek out unprotected sex with absolute strangers if you ask me.

But it's up to them, they must be well aware of the risks and yet are still prepared to take that chance.

I won't be going anywhere near this kind of activity though, the risk doesn't offset the reward in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Does the op seriously expect the people he is addressing ( the bare backers ) to respond ?

Why should they ?

It is clear he has a major issue with them , and should they respond , the outcome is inevitable .

They do as they do , weigh up the risks and carry on . This is their choice , just as we all choose our preferences in all we do .

So I would guess they will choose not to get involved in this thread , and apologies to the op for not being in the category of posters he was hoping for

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Let us try and get some statistical proportion on this matter.

According to the FPA in 2009 the instance of diagnosed STI occurrence in this country are as follows expressed as a percentage of total population:

Overall STI 0.774%

Chlamydia 0.349%

Genital warts 0.146%

Gonorrhoea 0.028%

Syphilis 0.005%

Genital herpes 0.048%

HIV/AIDS 0.011%

STI are not however contracted every time someone comes into contact with them. For instance HIV/AIDS has a calculated probability of infection from man to woman of 1:1,000 sex acts (others infections vary of course). So the statistical probability of a woman catching HIV/AIDs from unprotected sex in this country is 0.000011% or 1:941,095,151 sex acts. Or she would have to have sex with a new man 43,000 times a day from 16 to 76 to get the statistical probability to 1:1.

By way of comparison the chance of dying in a scheduled airliner crash is 0.000403% (1:248,138). The chance of dying on UK roads is 0.00594% (1:16,835). If you are a Farm worker your chances of being killed on the job are 0.008% or 1:12,500. Influenza has a kill rate of 0.00002% (1:5,000,000)

But, as I have said before, if you are the one caught then statistics mean nothing. Personal choice folks but let us not assume every act of unprotected sex is like Russian roulette (probability of 1:6)

Disclaimer: Nothing in this post should be taken as condoning or criticizing bareback sex. I am purely interested in putting the risks taken by bare-backers into proportion.

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By *pecifically1Woman over a year ago

Hull

"at the end of the day anyone who plays bareback is taking their own risks...that is their choice...

If it's not for you then don't entertain it..

If you have concerns as long as you always play safe then it reduces your risk

Thanks. That doesn't really educate or make a point of _iew though."

I replied with my point of _iew...if you don't want to play then don't..THAT is my point of _iew..it is everyone's choice - again THAT is my point of _iew on the subject....

As someone has said this is an open forum and I can reply with anything I like as long as it does not break the rules. As I feel I have done..

Perhaps if education is what you require then ask for people only to respond who actually only play bareback. I don't believe you did...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?"

A. What is your point?

B. Everyone has at some point had sex with another person that has bareback sex. No need to state anything.

I replied because my opinion was as I stated.

I also agree with what Gloswingers said. Good point.

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By *aro7Man over a year ago

wickford

Chill everybody, chill, we are all adults, if people wish to play that way, who are we to judge,,,,,,,,peace.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Interested to hear the forums thoughts on the profiles insisting on bareback meets only.

I'm just wondering what criteria you would use to inform that judgement? What is it about their general health or lifestyle, friends or sexual partners that would cause you to think about going bareback with them?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?"

Interesting that because the replies don't start having a go at BB you ask why reply. Can people only reply if it suits what you want to hear ?

I await your reply

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By *untimeanytimeMan over a year ago

kings lynn

do you put a jonny on it when you get a blowjob then because if you dont then your contradicting yourself

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think BB is fine . It's not some thing I would want to do , but at the end of the day as long as both party's agree then it's for them to choose . I ride a motor bike and even if I was aloud I would not ride with out a helmit . But I respect every body elaes right . Some people like the risk .

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"Interested to hear the forums thoughts on the profiles insisting on bareback meets only.

I just don't understand the mentality, of course we all prefer skin on skin, and who doesn't like a messy facial! But with all the STD's and the current rise again of HIV, I'm simply asking, why?

If you practise/request this on your profile, are you worried? Does the question arise? What makes it worth the risk, not just to get to know somebody first at least?

Have you attended a bareback meet with a couple/single you have never met before? We're you worried afterwards?

It's not a witch hunt, I personally find it incredibly irresponsible and reckless bit I'd be interested in your _iews.

we only have unprotected penetration with each other althoug we have met men who "forgot" their condoms or who laid there cock in te air looking all innocent waiting for me to jump on

My _iews are much like everyone elses that if someone states that they insist on bareback you can choose to meet them or not.

I do find your opinion that once you know someone and their habits and method of choosing partners its ok to relax certain precaution a bit at odds with the rest of your post though, what precautions did you have in mind when you wrote that?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I have no thoughts on people who insist on bareback

we are all adults, we all know the risks it involves, some of us are willing to take those risks, some aren't

I care not what other people do, its their life's to run how they choose and not for me to have an opinion on

apart from the opinion that I don't care

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Let us try and get some statistical proportion on this matter.

According to the FPA in 2009 the instance of diagnosed STI occurrence in this country are as follows expressed as a percentage of total population:

Overall STI 0.774%

Chlamydia 0.349%

Genital warts 0.146%

Gonorrhoea 0.028%

Syphilis 0.005%

Genital herpes 0.048%

HIV/AIDS 0.011%

Disclaimer: Nothing in this post should be taken as condoning or criticizing bareback sex. I am purely interested in putting the risks taken by bare-backers into proportion.

A brilliant reply! Can't argue with statistics

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By *aisy100Woman over a year ago

wakefield

"Interested to hear the forums thoughts on the profiles insisting on bareback meets only."

You asked?

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

I can only worry about me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?"

Wow! And the point of making this statement?

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By *ingjayMan over a year ago

exeter

I bareback with 3 regular friends, I get the test every 3 months as far as Im aware I'm the only guy they sleep with, but swinging....dint see the point, I would never entertain going bareback,

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?"

Why bother posting if you can't be bothered to respect an open forum. Very rude and ill mannered.

With regards to BB. Not really my bag and wouldn't consider it in this lifestyle. But that's my own opinion and will never force it on anyone. If people want to take those risks, so be it.

I have two kids...So does that count as having experience in BB?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This repeatedly comes up. Statistics come up, opinions come up, hypocrisy comes up.

Thats a lot of come. Each to their own but I can do without the constant hand wringing that goes on with this subject. We all need to take responsibility but every situation is different. I assess every situ individually and admit I will bb when I know recent testing has taken place. Likewise if I ever go to Kenya I will wank myself blind before poking a local. Thats not racist, its an informed choice. We are all capable of making our own decisions. Its called being a grown up......

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By *nly-AliceWoman over a year ago

Chester / North Wales

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?"

And one poster who;

A. Is quite rude

B. Doesn't seem to really understand how the forums work. People can respond in the way they like.

Why bother asking? It doesn't seem like you're looking for a debate anyway?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

They do it because they want to. What else is there to say?

Two people answering, who;

A. Miss the point

B. don't state wether they have had any experience in the subject.

Why bother replying?

And one poster who;

A. Is quite rude

B. Doesn't seem to really understand how the forums work. People can respond in the way they like.

Why bother asking? It doesn't seem like you're looking for a debate anyway?"

Here here

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Each to their own.

The reality is that each person is responsible for their own sexual behaviour and health. That person's sexual behaviour and health becomes your business if you decide to go bareback.

However, a condom is not a bulletproof vest and wearing one decreases risk as not wearing increases risk.

Though I'm not going to tell people how to play as we are all adults. You don't like it, don't play with them. You can still get herpes from a blowjob.

Sometimes the sore isn't visible...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh you are going to open a can of worms......we went to abfab and could not belive how many people did,nt have any condoms......to top it off,the club doesnt even sell them and if they do ,there not on public display

Last time we had this cgat we got alot of abuse from couples so get ready my friend lol

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By *entilusMan over a year ago

Beautiful North Wales

Have a look at the Terrence Higgins Trust webpage on HIV which says HIV is one of the fastest growing serious health conditions in the UK with over 100,000 affected and that 22% are undiagnosed and do not know about it.

http://www.tht.org.uk/sexual-health/Resources/Facts-and-statistics/HIV-in-the-UK

Also have a look at the FPA policy statment on STI's which says that in 2009 there 482,696 NEW STI cases diagnosed. http://www.fpa.org.uk/sites/default/files/stis-policy-statement.pdf

That's just under 0.8% of the population, but that's each year and includes the whole population - a significant part of which is not sexually active or monogamous.

So the real risk of bareback non-monogamous sex is much greater than 0.78%

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Oh you are going to open a can of worms......we went to abfab and could not belive how many people did,nt have any condoms......to top it off,the club doesnt even sell them and if they do ,there not on public display

Last time we had this cgat we got alot of abuse from couples so get ready my friend lol

Thanks, yeah I'm feeling the love lol. I couldn't care less to be fair but it is irritating reading the replies here that miss the point of the questions.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
Forum Mod

Angus & Findhorn

I think it is cool. If people declare they play bareback only, then informed choices can be made.

I respect their honesty.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I think it is cool. If people declare they play bareback only, then informed choices can be made.

I respect their honesty.

I totally agree, honesty is rare on here and to know where you stand helps you make choices based on that. We are all adults on here (although sometimes I wonder lol) so we can all play the way we want to with people who want to play that way too

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Not my thing at all to play bare back with a total stranger but I guess one of the reasons they do it is because of the risk factor a lot of people get a buzz from it I have been approached by quite a few people that have asked if I would play this way

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS over a year ago

Rochdale

Just a thought, but of all the solo cock pictures I've looked at on this site, I don't recall a single one of them wearing a condom.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

My FB and I are a bareback couple

but we would never insist on bareback with a couple who didnt want it. We will practice safe sex to start with but of course like most we prefer bareback and if in time once we get to know a couple we may go bareback.

Yes I do worry but you only live once and when its your time to go its your time to go.

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By *yrdwomanWoman over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

"Just a thought, but of all the solo cock pictures I've looked at on this site, I don't recall a single one of them wearing a condom. "

Do they need to if they're not in a hole?

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By *extoysareusCouple over a year ago

kinky heaven

And you'll get other people on forums asking why do people have free sex

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By *udie_GirlTV/TS over a year ago

Rochdale

"Just a thought, but of all the solo cock pictures I've looked at on this site, I don't recall a single one of them wearing a condom.

Do they need to if they're not in a hole?"

Need? No hun, but I think it makes a powerful statement all on its own, IMHO.

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By *nly-AliceWoman over a year ago

Chester / North Wales

"Just a thought, but of all the solo cock pictures I've looked at on this site, I don't recall a single one of them wearing a condom.

Do they need to if they're not in a hole?

Need? No hun, but I think it makes a powerful statement all on its own, IMHO."

So you're saying all the non-sex cock shots the guys should wear a condom? Little bit extreme I think..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Just a thought, but of all the solo cock pictures I've looked at on this site, I don't recall a single one of them wearing a condom.

Do they need to if they're not in a hole?

Need? No hun, but I think it makes a powerful statement all on its own, IMHO.

So you're saying all the non-sex cock shots the guys should wear a condom? Little bit extreme I think.."

This.

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By *ondering_yorkshiremanMan over a year ago

Somewhere near NE Derbyshire/S Yorkshire/Nottinghamshire border

"Just a thought, but of all the solo cock pictures I've looked at on this site, I don't recall a single one of them wearing a condom. "

For the record I have one on, in one of my pics. When asked by a friend why, I said 'why not!'

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

People who do b b on a site like this are fucking idiots

What's the point in the risk

But that's my opinion

Thank you and good night

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"People who do b b on a site like this are fucking idiots

What's the point in the risk

But that's my opinion

Thank you and good night "

I once saw a profile with near on 500 verifications saying only bareback, I was amazed. Its totally their choice and they are clear about it so others can make a decision as to whether they want to meet them but personally, I think that's madness. Just my opinion.

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By *rightonsteveMan over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

I've only ever had bareback sex with my wife. I wonder why it's called bareback and not barecock?

OP: people can post whatever reply they want (within the forum rules) on a forum thread. Don't worry about it. I once posted a thread and no one stuck to the subject. The more angry and insistent I got, the more random their posts became and they all joined in. I only asked about what their favourite turnip was.

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By *tirling DarkCouple over a year ago

Stirling

"Let us try and get some statistical proportion on this matter.

According to the FPA in 2009 the instance of diagnosed STI occurrence in this country are as follows expressed as a percentage of total population:

Overall STI 0.774%

Chlamydia 0.349%

Genital warts 0.146%

Gonorrhoea 0.028%

Syphilis 0.005%

Genital herpes 0.048%

HIV/AIDS 0.011%

Disclaimer: Nothing in this post should be taken as condoning or criticizing bareback sex. I am purely interested in putting the risks taken by bare-backers into proportion.

A brilliant reply! Can't argue with statistics

And that is why politicians use statistics so often. There are lies, lies and statistics

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Op, are you needing a hug or something. You are now making sweeping generalistions about peoples social circumstances and its just not needed.

You seem.quite balanced( a chip on both shoulders )

You asked a question or two, dont like some of the answers you are being given and castigate those whos opinion differs to yours.

Its not very impressive.....

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By *uited staffs guyMan over a year ago

staffordshire

I could give you a list of things humans do that carry a risk to their life from smoking to formula one racing and loads of other things, bare back sex is but one of those things, the answer to your question is the same answer as to the bigger question

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No need to have a go at someone else's pics when its not the thread subject and the member concerned hasn't ask for critique of his pics. He is expressing an opinion in an open forum.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Not being funny but why do you consider yourself exceptional. To me you seem to be extremely arrogant and have no interest in anyone's point of _iew. Shame really.

Uh oh another stalker. Why are guys who don't look after their bodies constantly following me around the forum?

If you don't like the fact that I'm exceptional due to actually being choosy, rather than being a desperate tryhard who will do anything and anyone, just don't _iew my profile.

If that's how you choose to live cool. But it's not for me. Maybe visit a gym, or eat a balanced diet, but please stop following me and disagreeing constantly, it's getting a bit boring.

How the hell did you come to the conclusion that they are stalking you?

It's very rude to make comments about another's memebers pictures when they haven't asked for them to be criticised,

And then to suggest that they visit a gym or eat healthy

wow that's extremely rude!!!

We are all different so opinions will always be different... Just because some aren't agreeing with you, doesn't give you the right to be rude to them!

And in answer to you OP

If grown ups want to play BB then that's their choice.... Personally we only BB with each other and not with our play meets "

On account of the amount of profile visits and threads that I've posted in and had replied to by them.

That's how I conclude.

I'm not trying to be rude, just getting about tired with it.

Thank you for the last paragraph actually addressing the thread

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Most mathematicians know statistics can be influenced depending on the proportion of population who are measured and environmental factors can skew the results.

A recent report posted by the NHS shows swingers are at high risk in the Netherlands. Wouldn't you want to know the statistics for swingers in the UK before you support bareback sex. The results are significant. It doesn't take into chance the risk of getting it.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/06June/Pages/Swingers-greater-risk-of-STIs.aspx

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Most mathematicians know statistics can be influenced depending on the proportion of population who are measured and environmental factors can skew the results.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/06June/Pages/Swingers-greater-risk-of-STIs.aspx"

This. I love wiki 'facts' that people bring to the party

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most mathematicians know statistics can be influenced depending on the proportion of population who are measured and environmental factors can skew the results.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/06June/Pages/Swingers-greater-risk-of-STIs.aspx

This. I love wiki 'facts' that people bring to the party"

Are swingers at greater risk or just more likely to go to gum clinics?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most mathematicians know statistics can be influenced depending on the proportion of population who are measured and environmental factors can skew the results.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/06June/Pages/Swingers-greater-risk-of-STIs.aspx

This. I love wiki 'facts' that people bring to the party

Are swingers at greater risk or just more likely to go to gum clinics?"

good question. I wonder how many undiagnosed cases there are

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Most mathematicians know statistics can be influenced depending on the proportion of population who are measured and environmental factors can skew the results.

http://www.nhs.uk/news/2010/06June/Pages/Swingers-greater-risk-of-STIs.aspx

This. I love wiki 'facts' that people bring to the party

Are swingers at greater risk or just more likely to go to gum clinics?

good question. I wonder how many undiagnosed cases there are"

Very good point.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Cheers _iew but that just wound me up. Totally uncalled for.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple over a year ago

in Lancashire

"Cheers _iew but that just wound me up. Totally uncalled for."

why get so wound up by what someone has said on a website that you feel the need to list how fit you are...

its just words from someone who lets be honest you wont ever meet and whose opinion is just that...

they're probably sat there giggling at your response..

rise above it..

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

is there something in the water it is it the rising sap?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

is there something in the water it is it the rising sap?"

Just replying to unintentionally hilarious tantrums.

Nothing to see here

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By *ezebelWoman over a year ago

North of The Wall - youll need your vest

Ive removed posts and Im closing this now as it seems to have developed into handbags at 10 paces

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