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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
Depends, some BBw are very sexy, others are not, but I think if must men were given the choice and we're honest enough would go for a sexy slim women rather than a sexy BBW |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
Easiest option??? Im a big girl but I certainly dont think Im an easy option for anyone!!!!!!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Lol, I think a fair way to put it for me is that you meet with people on fab you wouldn't have as a gf, as fab for me is about mutually enjoying sex and not relationships. |
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Why is it 'sexual suicide' to admit to not preferring a larger partner?
I know a lot of men that played with larger women as at one time the bbw night at chams was a leg in for membership.
Also men can like someone for them & that has no bearing on their dress size.
Concentrate on those you like & that want to meet you for you |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Depends, some BBw are very sexy, others are not, but I think if must men were given the choice and we're honest enough would go for a sexy slim women rather than a sexy BBW"
Not all.
Some men do genuinely prefer a larger woman. One of my fbs considers me very skinny! But I have a lovely personality which makes up for my scrawnyness |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion"
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why is it 'sexual suicide' to admit to not preferring a larger partner?
I know a lot of men that played with larger women as at one time the bbw night at chams was a leg in for membership.
Also men can like someone for them & that has no bearing on their dress size.
Concentrate on those you like & that want to meet you for you"
You need to read what I wrote before questioning it,because you have misunderstood it completely |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Depends, some BBw are very sexy, others are not, but I think if must men were given the choice and we're honest enough would go for a sexy slim women rather than a sexy BBW"
Nice to see a honest answer for once ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Depends, some BBw are very sexy, others are not, but I think if must men were given the choice and we're honest enough would go for a sexy slim women rather than a sexy BBW
Nice to see a honest answer for once ! "
But it has to be more than just body size, for me to connect with any Lady |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Easiest option??? Im a big girl but I certainly dont think Im an easy option for anyone!!!!!!!!"
I have to agree with this...I too am a 'bigger girl' and am definitely not an easy option for anyone... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think some of the men who have met me liked me because i am a unique invidual.
The ones that did like me that is.
People like other people for all different reasons, not just the way they look. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To me size bears no relevance, it's a personality through the written word that attracts. Spelling, grammar, punctuation. Although I have to admit a pretty face and wicked sense of humour are up there too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"ive never had a problem ...lots of men like larger women"
You mean lots of men say they like a larger lady !!! But like someone else said ! Lots of men will say anything to get into your pants !!!! And lots are under the illusion that us big girls are easy ! Because we don't have as many offers !!!!! Fools ! Lol ..... But there are some men out there that do have a thing for bigger women ! Just sorting out who really likes it and who thinks any hole is a goal !!!! That's the tricky bit !! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with "
Explain why?? |
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I've never had an issue and never met a guy that was ashamed to be seen with me in public...it's down to preferences however I have met guys who have stated I was not their usual type but they were drawn to me due to me as a person... |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Easiest option??? Im a big girl but I certainly dont think Im an easy option for anyone!!!!!!!!
I have to agree with this...I too am a 'bigger girl' and am definitely not an easy option for anyone... "
I didn't say we are the easiest option-I am anything but! Just that they think it is.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I often say that I'm attracted to people I'm attracted to, rather than specific traits like size, age or race, so don't rule out bigger women, in fact some look great with a fuller figure, but these tend to be the ones who are naturally larger framed and wouldn't look healthy unless they were carrying a bit of weight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??"
they tend to be funnier, dont take themseves too seriously and I feel more comfortable with them |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??"
Fat girls are more greatfull so work harder !!!! Its a well known fact !!!! |
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
they tend to be funnier, dont take themseves too seriously and I feel more comfortable with them "
I know a lot of slim and average size women like that also |
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
Fat girls are more greatfull so work harder !!!! Its a well known fact !!!! "
Mrs H really?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
they tend to be funnier, dont take themseves too seriously and I feel more comfortable with them
I know a lot of slim and average size women like that also "
Thats very true |
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
they tend to be funnier, dont take themseves too seriously and I feel more comfortable with them
I know a lot of slim and average size women like that also
Thats very true "
I also know some right miserable fat women |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
they tend to be funnier, dont take themseves too seriously and I feel more comfortable with them
I know a lot of slim and average size women like that also
Thats very true
I also know some right miserable fat women "
Yes it has to be more than body size, personality is soo important |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
Fat girls are more greatfull so work harder !!!! Its a well known fact !!!!
Mrs H really?? "
Hehe !!!! Do you think fab has made me cynical !!!! |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
Before this degenerate into the usual fat girl bashing as these bbw threads ALWAYS turn into: reality check to ALL ladies; by the nature of being on this site, whether you're a Victoria Beckham lookalike or Dawn French SOME men will assume you're an easy lay. |
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
Fat girls are more greatfull so work harder !!!! Its a well known fact !!!!
Mrs H really??
Hehe !!!! Do you think fab has made me cynical !!!! "
Humm possibly but I'll be behind you in the line... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??
Fat girls are more greatfull so work harder !!!! Its a well known fact !!!! "
Well if you want a workout I am sure we can arrange that lol |
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By *uby0000Woman
over a year ago
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im very fussy nowdays about how a man looks realised ages ago I don't have to accept anyone just cos im bigger result im getting a lot of young men and very handsome too so does it matter if they like or dislike? if they disliked they wouldn't have mailed? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Before this degenerate into the usual fat girl bashing as these bbw threads ALWAYS turn into: reality check to ALL ladies; by the nature of being on this site, whether you're a Victoria Beckham lookalike or Dawn French SOME men will assume you're an easy lay. "
Agree, and there are quite a few needy slim to average sized women on here too. |
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
I do love BBWs they are so much more fun to be with
Explain why??"
I'm curious too as "fun" is not an adjective levelled at me and I'm huge! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Before this degenerate into the usual fat girl bashing as these bbw threads ALWAYS turn into: reality check to ALL ladies; by the nature of being on this site, whether you're a Victoria Beckham lookalike or Dawn French SOME men will assume you're an easy lay.
Agree, and there are quite a few needy slim to average sized women on here too."
Lots of needy people of all sizes. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
I think for some guys this is possibly true , which has been vilified in some of the posts above . But there are plenty men I guess like myself that just like women full stop and appreciate the benefits of all types of women . I like apples ! But there are loads of different types of apple , they look and taste different , but I like them all . Sometimes I prefer a granny smith to a golden delicious at times , but there all good . I imagine there are women who like all types of men , slim , athletic , stocky , muscly , bald , hairy . Variety is the spice of life isn't it ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Before this degenerate into the usual fat girl bashing as these bbw threads ALWAYS turn into: reality check to ALL ladies; by the nature of being on this site, whether you're a Victoria Beckham lookalike or Dawn French SOME men will assume you're an easy lay.
Agree, and there are quite a few needy slim to average sized women on here too."
...ain't that the truth! |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
I think for some guys this is possibly true , which has been vilified in some of the posts above . But there are plenty men I guess like myself that just like women full stop and appreciate the benefits of all types of women . I like apples ! But there are loads of different types of apple , they look and taste different , but I like them all . Sometimes I prefer a granny smith to a golden delicious at times , but there all good . I imagine there are women who like all types of men , slim , athletic , stocky , muscly , bald , hairy . Variety is the spice of life isn't it ? "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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As the male half of this couple I can honestly speak for both of us when I say we couldn't care less about size.
We don't care if your size Zero or size 30, so long as your comfortable in your own skin and can enjoy yourself that's all that matters. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx"
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still only date slim women, honestly? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? " Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x"
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually. |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually. "
Ah the age old I'd shag a far bird but not be seen with them in public syndrome... Never had that problem myself... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion"
Just as I don't tend to go for people who approach with the "I Love BBC" Line.....
in regard to the OP, actually I do think there are a lot more guys with that opinion that would ever care to admit it, because as someone said... it would probably be swinging suicide...
I think a lot of guy who do come here, especially at the beginning, think swingers must be desperate and easy... and that larger lasses will be less choosy..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To suggest that a BBW would be easier to get in the sack than a slimmer Lady,would be offensive to some surely ?
I'm more interested in a females mind,kinks,etc, her body size is totally irrelevant if we click.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
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Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
Ah the age old I'd shag a far bird but not be seen with them in public syndrome... Never had that problem myself... " Don't think any guy would be ashamed to be with you in public hun |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Valid point!
To be honest I tend not to go for guys who approach with "I love BBW" line. But I saw an update recently asking the question and thought I would see if anyone had an opinion
Just as I don't tend to go for people who approach with the "I Love BBC" Line.....
in regard to the OP, actually I do think there are a lot more guys with that opinion that would ever care to admit it, because as someone said... it would probably be swinging suicide...
I think a lot of guy who do come here, especially at the beginning, think swingers must be desperate and easy... and that larger lasses will be less choosy..... "
Laws of the jungle still apply on here though just like in real life . I look at a profile and think phwooorrr ! shes lovely , but then reality kicks in and I realise she's way out my league , so I don't make an approach . I tend to only approach women I think may find me attractive and are possibly on a similar looks level to me . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
Ah the age old I'd shag a far bird but not be seen with them in public syndrome... Never had that problem myself... "
Never had any problems being seen out with any Lady, |
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I am happy with larger ladies if they are happy with there own size I have in the past been with larger girls that would only undress in the dark and would.not let me touch certain areas of there body. so as I say if she is ok with her size I am. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
I like bigger woman who are confident and i dont find them an easier option lol
I also like slimmer girls who are confident and comfortable being with larger woman
Or was this a question f?r just men lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Media tells people its not sexy to be big !!!! Some men (usually younger ones) struggle with liking bigger women! Because of others judgments ! But sexy is as sexy does !!!! And each to their own !!!!! Just like A sixpack don't maketh the man !!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Laws of the jungle still apply on here though just like in real life . I look at a profile and think phwooorrr ! shes lovely , but then reality kicks in and I realise she's way out my league , so I don't make an approach."
You're right, in life there are some STUNNINGLY beautiful women, who's sexiness seems to radiate out from them like an aura, and I often feel like I'm questioning my own virility when I encounter such women, doubting that I'm good looking enough, popular enough, successful enough or rich enough to be worthy of her attention. |
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By *RYBBWCouple
over a year ago
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"Another point: some straight men turn bi on here with full balls, therefore why the surprise some will shag a big un to empty said balls?!!"
That says more about the man than the partner they choose.
I'm a large lady. I do not have sex with anyone that offers. I choose who we indulge with and I am very picky. I know it must be shocking to hear of a BBW that isn't desperate for sex (I get plenty off my OH).
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By (user no longer on site)
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why do you think these sites (fab in particular) attract so many larger ladies and those you wouldnt class as classically beautiful?
because there are plenty of takers. genuine or not |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Well for me and I know this is going to sound all mushy, I am more into the person than dress size, if the girl I have a meet with is not a slim size 10 who cares I don't. We are all conditioned throughout life that we are expected to be a certain way etc that's the sad part because what it all boils down to for me is the person whether we can laugh, talk and have a huge amount of fun. Each and every one of us is unique in our own way. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"why do you think these sites (fab in particular) attract so many larger ladies and those you wouldnt class as classically beautiful?
because there are plenty of takers. genuine or not"
Thought you were gunna say "coz they can't get it anywhere else" ! Lol.... I'm here because its a quick fix ! All my girlfriends are loved up and don't wanna go out on the pull ! So this is a good place to cut out the middle man !!!! And it has always amazed me even in the real world when out with a group of ladies of all shapes and sizes !! Sometimes its just the fat bird that pulls !!!! Lol |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Depends, some BBw are very sexy, others are not, but I think if must men were given the choice and we're honest enough would go for a sexy slim women rather than a sexy BBW"
I totally disagree as I know men that rather a fuller figured girl as aposed to slim.
I used to be slim and I never got much attention but now I'm bigger guys seem to find me sexier. There are plenty genuine guys that like a bbw over a slim girl |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"why do you think these sites (fab in particular) attract so many larger ladies and those you wouldnt class as classically beautiful?
because there are plenty of takers. genuine or not
Thought you were gunna say "coz they can't get it anywhere else" ! Lol.... I'm here because its a quick fix ! All my girlfriends are loved up and don't wanna go out on the pull ! So this is a good place to cut out the middle man !!!! And it has always amazed me even in the real world when out with a group of ladies of all shapes and sizes !! Sometimes its just the fat bird that pulls !!!! Lol "
lol i get that all my mates are settled down now aswell and totally under the thumb |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Ah the age old I'd shag a far bird but not be seen with them in public syndrome... Never had that problem myself... "
If they won't be seen with me in public they are out.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"BBW can be just as attractive and slim in fact many times more attractive
try again. that doesnt make sense"
Think it was "as" not "and" see I'm gorgeous sexy fat and bright !!! Lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually. "
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Ah the age old I'd shag a far bird but not be seen with them in public syndrome... Never had that problem myself...
If they won't be seen with me in public they are out.
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I wouldnt expect some of the young men i have met to want to be seen with me, they would wonder what he was doing out with his granny. |
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It's all about the eyes for me. I'm a weirdo lol.
...to be honest. It doesn't bother me what their body type is. As long as we click. I don't have the perfect body either - but who decides what's perfect anyway?
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"Another point: some straight men turn bi on here with full balls, therefore why the surprise some will shag a big un to empty said balls?!!
That says more about the man than the partner they choose.
I'm a large lady. I do not have sex with anyone that offers. I choose who we indulge with and I am very picky. I know it must be shocking to hear of a BBW that isn't desperate for sex (I get plenty off my OH).
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I'm a size 24! My point is of course there are men who will assume bigger women are easy, just as there are men that think every woman on this site is easy. That's why they post I can't get a meet threads. |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually. "
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely? |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?"
Saved me some typing as I was going to ask this..... |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?
Saved me some typing as I was going to ask this....."
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?"
Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks. |
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i am not skinny but Have met and dated some extremely hot men in the past aand now also. i cant Understand why or how but they seem to Love being with me. i am not an easy option as i make them work to get me. lol. men do seem to Like curves rather than bones. cant see why anyone would want Someone so big they cant walk or breathe but there we go. think this place is good for everyone's Confidence as photos get fabbed and men compliment women so women feel beautiful whatever they Look like often said in order to get a bit Thou Granted |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?
Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks."
Yes a lot of my messages say they like my hairy pussy or my blow job pics, not how nice i look, which is ok by me because they are on here to meet people for sex same as what i am.
i meet men i dont fancy that much but the sex is still good, as long as their face looks ok and they are nice enough people. |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?
Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks.
Yes a lot of my messages say they like my hairy pussy or my blow job pics, not how nice i look, which is ok by me because they are on here to meet people for sex same as what i am.
i meet men i dont fancy that much but the sex is still good, as long as their face looks ok and they are nice enough people."
Yet if a bloke had said that he would've had the wolves set on him. |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?
Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks.
Yes a lot of my messages say they like my hairy pussy or my blow job pics, not how nice i look, which is ok by me because they are on here to meet people for sex same as what i am.
i meet men i dont fancy that much but the sex is still good, as long as their face looks ok and they are nice enough people.
Yet if a bloke had said that he would've had the wolves set on him. "
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
Big women have got to have curves. Otherwise its just fat and isn't attractive. There are perfect examples of "Big" women who are attractive and fat women who I don't consider to be attractive. Also I don't prefer the "Big" women just to get a shag as there are lots of smaller/petite women who are just as attractive. |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?"
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"I do genuinely like big beautiful women but most who claim to be are not. They are just big women in my opinion. "
So how is that any different to the slimmer women? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! |
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I think some say they do, but they don't really. However, there are others who really genuinely prefer a larger lady. Those are the ones who come back for more. |
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"why do you think these sites (fab in particular) attract so many larger ladies and those you wouldnt class as classically beautiful?
because there are plenty of takers. genuine or not
Thought you were gunna say "coz they can't get it anywhere else" ! Lol.... I'm here because its a quick fix ! All my girlfriends are loved up and don't wanna go out on the pull ! So this is a good place to cut out the middle man !!!! And it has always amazed me even in the real world when out with a group of ladies of all shapes and sizes !! Sometimes its just the fat bird that pulls !!!! Lol "
Im here because a guy said I should join as it was what I needed at the time, so here I am, still needy |
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Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Depends, some BBw are very sexy, others are not, but I think if must men were given the choice and we're honest enough would go for a sexy slim women rather than a sexy BBW"
I think this is a common thing, I know Snappo feels this way. But I also think we have to give some men credit for being attracted to a personality rather than just a body. |
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"why do you think these sites (fab in particular) attract so many larger ladies and those you wouldnt class as classically beautiful?
because there are plenty of takers. genuine or not
Thought you were gunna say "coz they can't get it anywhere else" ! Lol.... I'm here because its a quick fix ! All my girlfriends are loved up and don't wanna go out on the pull ! So this is a good place to cut out the middle man !!!! And it has always amazed me even in the real world when out with a group of ladies of all shapes and sizes !! Sometimes its just the fat bird that pulls !!!! Lol
Im here because a guy said I should join as it was what I needed at the time, so here I am, still needy "
Lower your age range and I'll help you with all your needs |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Easiest option??? Im a big girl but I certainly dont think Im an easy option for anyone!!!!!!!!
I have to agree with this...I too am a 'bigger girl' and am definitely not an easy option for anyone... "
Thank you! A big girl I may be... But Easy I am not! I say often that I think some guys think i will fukk them because I'm a big girl and they seem to think I'm hard up for sex... So not the case here!! Next ... |
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"I think some say they do, but they don't really. However, there are others who really genuinely prefer a larger lady. Those are the ones who come back for more.
mine come back for more"
You must be real good. |
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I don't have a hard and fast rule - if I like them and can have a bit of a chat and we click, then it's all good. All shapes and sizes welcome here, just bring some wit , intelligence and an open mind. |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
Not as many as say they like them... But can't see many admitting it xx |
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"Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks.
Really???? So I that assume by that idiotic statement that you date all the 'slim' women you meet outside of Fab then do you?? And not just use them to 'empty your sack' "
As i said earlier in the thread, bbws are not my cup of tea. I prefer slimmer women, and yeah, i WOULD date the women i meet from here. Why wouldn't i?
My above statement was in regards to a query posted by a woman asking "why won't guys who fuck bbws date them outside of fab". Hence my personal opinion of why they don't! Try quoting the whole post instead of taking mine out of context! |
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if a guy who don't find me attractive wants to shag me then more fool him, so long as I find him attractive who cares, i'm not looking at myself
I wont lower my standards for anyone if they choose to that says more about them than it does me |
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Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually. "
Fair play to you for being honest.
I wish more guys were honest about this and stopped all the bull***t they think larger women want to hear.
I'd rafter someone was honest and said, happy to shag you but I'm not happy to been seen in public with you then the guys that blow smoke up my ass and say they love larger ladies.
I've met a fair few guts and I'd say 3 genuinely liked larger women, I'd say some of the others were attracted to me as a person and saw past my size but some were definatly in the any hole is a goal category.
I know in not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm comfortable with who I am & how I use the site. |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
Bigger women are just as sexy as some slimmer girls not the size that dictates how easy someone is it's the personality! Was an old saying my step dad had years ago which his dad passed to him "if your out on a night out and it coming toward the end of the night always go for a bigger girl as they are greatful" not my idea of politically or morally correct but some guys just look at it that way, I'd rather have a pretty, big girl with a personality than a slim girl without one! Size doesn't matter it's the persons personality on life that matters |
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"I'm still gorgeous "
You are indeed
For me size is not relevant, if I meet someone or chat to someone and there is a connection and chemistry then that's what I am looking for |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
Easiest option??? Im a big girl but I certainly dont think Im an easy option for anyone!!!!!!!!"
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Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks."
What a horrible thing to say. I'm a big girl & my partner likes me for who I am. He's happy to be seen in public & even holds my hand,,,,shock horror.
Yes your preference may be for slim girls & that's fine as it would be a boring place if we all liked the same,,,you just don't need to be so horrible about. |
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bbws can be hot. I love curvy ladies. But there are plenty of munters too. Still trying to get myself round anyone fucking someone they didn't fancy? I must admit my preference is for bigger girls, but they certainly aren't any easier than than any other lady |
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Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks.
What a horrible thing to say. I'm a big girl & my partner likes me for who I am. He's happy to be seen in public & even holds my hand,,,,shock horror.
Yes your preference may be for slim girls & that's fine as it would be a boring place if we all liked the same,,,you just don't need to be so horrible about. "
FFS. Horrible about what?? Do you maybe want to read the post that i was answering before taking what i said out of context? You know, the one that the above quote was taken from?? A lady asked why certain guys who would fuck a bbw, wouldn't date them outside of fab. Hence my post. |
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"If I am totally honest . Before I came on here all my gf where slim and never thought I would be attracted to a larger lady but since been on here and met some amazing curvy ladies my preferences have changed completely xxx
Would you have a larger lady as your girlfriend now or would you still oily date slim women, honestly? Honestly if there was a attraction the size would not bother me anymore x
Ah good man I can find a size 30 woman attractive and a turn on but I couldnt date someone that big. Size 12 or below for me usually.
is that down to public stigma? You say earlier that you genuinely find big women attractive yet you wouldn't date one over a size 12?
i think big women are a lot of men guilty pleasures, would fuck one but wouldn't want their mates and family seeing them with one
to me if you wouldn't date a big woman then your not genuinely attracted to them, as i see it you date what you find attractive surely?
Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks.
Yes a lot of my messages say they like my hairy pussy or my blow job pics, not how nice i look, which is ok by me because they are on here to meet people for sex same as what i am.
i meet men i dont fancy that much but the sex is still good, as long as their face looks ok and they are nice enough people.
Yet if a bloke had said that he would've had the wolves set on him.
Why?"
Because women are allowed to state their preferences on here.
If a guy dares to state his preferences, all the women that don't fit his preferences have a hissy fit.
Plenty of examples above....
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"Why?
Because women are allowed to state their preferences on here.
If a guy dares to state his preferences, all the women that don't fit his preferences have a hissy fit.
Plenty of examples above....
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"Why?
Because women are allowed to state their preferences on here.
If a guy dares to state his preferences, all the women that don't fit his preferences have a hissy fit.
Plenty of examples above....
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Maybe some people shouldnt take themselves or things so seriously then.
Its only sex after all. |
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"Why?
Because women are allowed to state their preferences on here.
If a guy dares to state his preferences, all the women that don't fit his preferences have a hissy fit.
Plenty of examples above....
Maybe some people shouldnt take themselves or things so seriously then.
Its only sex after all."
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
I am surprised to say the least that NO bisexual women have commented on your post. I like ladies with curves, I enjoy their company, their confidence and yes..their body. On many occasions I have held hands with big beautiful womwn in public and have no issue being seen with them.
Am I the only bisexual woman on this site to feel this post was for me as much as for men? |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
I am surprised to say the least that NO bisexual women have commented on your post. I like ladies with curves, I enjoy their company, their confidence and yes..their body. On many occasions I have held hands with big beautiful womwn in public and have no issue being seen with them.
Am I the only bisexual woman on this site to feel this post was for me as much as for men?"
No I totally agree with you
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well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx |
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i prefer slim to average sized men, i was seeing an average sized man who brought his chubby friend along with him once and i prefered his tubby friend to him, they arent on this site anymore. So you cant always tell by looking at people photos. |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
I personally love BBW, I usually attend big girls parties in London as well.But never have the intention that they are easy to get laid with.They have feelings and should be treated with utmost respect as well.
Any BBW's around? hehe |
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Of course they don't genuinely find bbws attractive! I personally think it's a 'any hole's a goal' mentallity. As you say, if they did, then they would surely date them outside of fab. Rather than just use them to empty their sacks.
What a horrible thing to say. I'm a big girl & my partner likes me for who I am. He's happy to be seen in public & even holds my hand,,,,shock horror.
Yes your preference may be for slim girls & that's fine as it would be a boring place if we all liked the same,,,you just don't need to be so horrible about.
FFS. Horrible about what?? Do you maybe want to read the post that i was answering before taking what i said out of context? You know, the one that the above quote was taken from?? A lady asked why certain guys who would fuck a bbw, wouldn't date them outside of fab. Hence my post. "
I rather think that's the point he was making
Guy who shag big women but wouldn't date them are just using them for a shag, but at the end of the day its a swingers site are we not all using people for sex? though I wouldn't have sex with someone for the sake of it and I would rather go without than shag someone I didn't fancy at the end of the day the men I do meet I meet for sex, end of
no one said no men would date big women, no one said all men don't really find big women attractive but its a fact that there are a lot of men who would shag big women but wouldn't be seen out with them or date them
Any man that wouldn't date a big women but would shag one is just using them to empty their sack it may be a horrible thing to say but its true, some people are happy to shag anything |
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"well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx "
im the other way round, I had more confidence before I joined this site these threads are enough to put anyone off meeting |
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"Another point: some straight men turn bi on here with full balls, therefore why the surprise some will shag a big un to empty said balls?!!"
The brevity, the insight, the wit. Spot on! |
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"well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx
im the other way round, I had more confidence before I joined this site these threads are enough to put anyone off meeting "
So your saying since joining this site your confidence has gone down? I find that hard to believe as you have such a lovely figure. Any guy would want you and straight women will be tempted too. |
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"why do you think these sites (fab in particular) attract so many larger ladies and those you wouldnt class as classically beautiful?
because there are plenty of takers. genuine or not
Thought you were gunna say "coz they can't get it anywhere else" ! Lol.... I'm here because its a quick fix ! All my girlfriends are loved up and don't wanna go out on the pull ! So this is a good place to cut out the middle man !!!! And it has always amazed me even in the real world when out with a group of ladies of all shapes and sizes !! Sometimes its just the fat bird that pulls !!!! Lol
Im here because a guy said I should join as it was what I needed at the time, so here I am, still needy
Lower your age range and I'll help you with all your needs "
Sorry you same age as my son. I have been getting it just not enough, guess I worded it wrong |
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"well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx
im the other way round, I had more confidence before I joined this site these threads are enough to put anyone off meeting "
I know what you mean |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? " I love larger and older women I'd choose a big girl over a skinny girl any day |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
I am surprised to say the least that NO bisexual women have commented on your post. I like ladies with curves, I enjoy their company, their confidence and yes..their body. On many occasions I have held hands with big beautiful womwn in public and have no issue being seen with them.
Am I the only bisexual woman on this site to feel this post was for me as much as for men?
No I totally agree with you
Butterfly x"
Thank you. Just you and I it seems mrs Butterfly |
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"well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx
im the other way round, I had more confidence before I joined this site these threads are enough to put anyone off meeting "
I dont know about that,i was confident before i come on here,nothing has changed by a few threads,i tend to meet people over and over again,if i took to heart what is said on these threads i wouldnt even Walk out the door,let alone go to partys and clubs,
People Can have fun on here whatever there size,just like in real life
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"well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx
im the other way round, I had more confidence before I joined this site these threads are enough to put anyone off meeting
So your saying since joining this site your confidence has gone down? I find that hard to believe as you have such a lovely figure. Any guy would want you and straight women will be tempted too."
awww your tenner's in the post
but in all seriousness, I am more self conscious since I joined these sites definitely
Its surprising how much truth people will tell you about what they like when they are sat behind a keyboard, you can learn a lot on here |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid?
I like bigger woman who are confident and i dont find them an easier option lol
I also like slimmer girls who are confident and comfortable being with larger woman
Or was this a question f?r just men lol"
I did make a comment at the beginning of thread as abisexual woman as above lol |
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"Quick question...
Who on this site actually likes a bigger girl (BBW or whatever you want to call it) and who just thinks its their easiest option of getting laid? "
I like people. Size, gender, age and whatever else has nothing to do with it. Some I like and some I don't. |
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"well im a lrg ladie when i first joined i was very paranoid that guys wanted to me because thet thought it was going to be a easy fuck for them ! how ever i was proved wrong ive met some great guys who always want seconds thirds and fourths lol i no longer ger paranoid and enjoy myself just as much as any one else on here xxx
im the other way round, I had more confidence before I joined this site these threads are enough to put anyone off meeting
So your saying since joining this site your confidence has gone down? I find that hard to believe as you have such a lovely figure. Any guy would want you and straight women will be tempted too.
awww your tenner's in the post
but in all seriousness, I am more self conscious since I joined these sites definitely
Its surprising how much truth people will tell you about what they like when they are sat behind a keyboard, you can learn a lot on here "
Tenner . I was expecting you.
Don't be. I say it how it is and you're very attractive. Whatever I say behind a keyboard I think anyway. I know there's more chance of me saying it on a keyboard, but what I say I believe is the truth. Also its not what you learn on here, but online in general. |
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