"When you get all lumpy and your veins look like a relief map of rivers of the world.
That's what I look like weeks before getting on stage 
Well just stop it!"
Ha ha no chance of that I'd look like everyone else then lol c |
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I think muscle looks good but its when it goes to there head and think they are something special and wearing tshirts that are 4 sizes smaller then they need. In winter . |
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"When you get all lumpy and your veins look like a relief map of rivers of the world."
Blerghhhh
Dated a guy like that while he was getting ready to compete, turned me right off  |
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Depends how much gear he's using.
Studies I've read concluded that naturally, the average man can increase his muscle mass by around 10% - this increases to around 15% for someone with an above average build (think a strapping rugby player type), and as high as 20% for someone who's genetically gifted. |
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Watched a documentary . Which went to one gym where the guys had been training for years with no steriods and would never get to competition standards . Then another gym where they was all on roids who was all entering comps . Just saying |
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"Watched a documentary . Which went to one gym where the guys had been training for years with no steriods and would never get to competition standards . Then another gym where they was all on roids who was all entering comps . Just saying "
Common knowledge for most long term trainers  |
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"Watched a documentary . Which went to one gym where the guys had been training for years with no steriods and would never get to competition standards . Then another gym where they was all on roids who was all entering comps . Just saying "
And...?
As long as steroids are done "safely" and cycled correctly, I think you will find steroids alone are relatively safe. They are used for many medical treatments. The long term affects are different for women of course, but that's another ball game.
I think you will find smokers, drinkers & the obese have significantly more health problems and long term lasting damage!  |
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"I like muscles on men like Jessie Pavelka, Chris Powell. The Arnie look doesn't do it for me."
Both those guys you mentioned are good examples of naturally attainable physiques, whereas Arnies is pretty much the archetypical steroid look. |
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"Watched a documentary . Which went to one gym where the guys had been training for years with no steriods and would never get to competition standards . Then another gym where they was all on roids who was all entering comps . Just saying
And...?
As long as steroids are done "safely" and cycled correctly, I think you will find steroids alone are relatively safe. They are used for many medical treatments. The long term affects are different for women of course, but that's another ball game.
I think you will find smokers, drinkers & the obese have significantly more health problems and long term lasting damage! "
I totally agree steroid users get a bad rep due to poor knowledge if done correct you can obtain a dry muscular physique non of this water bloat you see a lot of |
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over a year ago
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"I like muscles on men like Jessie Pavelka, Chris Powell. The Arnie look doesn't do it for me.
Both those guys you mentioned are good examples of naturally attainable physiques, whereas Arnies is pretty much the archetypical steroid look."
If Arnie was in bodybuilding comps today he would be in the womens division...its all about juicing up these days!! |
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life time rugby player and natural too no steroids , ive never posed in small t shirts ect, im too old now to care about it , im not as big as I was but not bad for my age |
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"Niks problem on here is finding men with muscles.far too many tick athletic and have arms like spaghetti."
Same here! 
Or they claim to have a rugby players build but look more like Phil Mitchell than Ben Cohen.
Loooove muscular men. |
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"Niks problem on here is finding men with muscles.far too many tick athletic and have arms like spaghetti.
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Its not the size of the arm that's important, its the strength. Mind though having said that, no one ever really cared about my log lifting pic - I think most people have forgotten WHY muscles are classically attractive in men. |
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"Niks problem on here is finding men with muscles.far too many tick athletic and have arms like spaghetti.
Same here!
Or they claim to have a rugby players build but look more like Phil Mitchell than Ben Cohen.
Loooove muscular men. "
Lol makes me laugh when they state they are a rugby player build but infact just have a pot/beer belly. |
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Yeah the rugby player build lol,don't know when they last watched rugby.i don't play rugby but at 6-2"/3" and 225lb im more rugby shaped than the claimed rugby build |
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"Couldn't be doing with the ball shrinkage though."
It's not permanent as soon as course Is finished balls return to normal size. I'm happy having not so normal sized balls for an ridiculously high sex drive easy swap If you ask me lol |
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"Couldn't be doing with the ball shrinkage though.
It's not permanent as soon as course Is finished balls return to normal size. I'm happy having not so normal sized balls for an ridiculously high sex drive easy swap If you ask me lol "
It still makes little sense to me to use steroids recreationally, if whilst you're on them your muscles are big but your balls shrink, then you come off them and your balls return to normal whilst your muscles shrink. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"Niks problem on here is finding men with muscles.far too many tick athletic and have arms like spaghetti.
Same here!
Or they claim to have a rugby players build but look more like Phil Mitchell than Ben Cohen.
Loooove muscular men. "
I'm a Rugby player, but I have been told I'm not built like one (on Fabs, not at Rugby training).....  |
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"Couldn't be doing with the ball shrinkage though.
It's not permanent as soon as course Is finished balls return to normal size. I'm happy having not so normal sized balls for an ridiculously high sex drive easy swap If you ask me lol
It still makes little sense to me to use steroids recreationally, if whilst you're on them your muscles are big but your balls shrink, then you come off them and your balls return to normal whilst your muscles shrink."
I've come off and gone back on several times the only thing that ever shrinks Is my balls my muscles stay the same size throughout there's a difference between the guys that take steroids and fill full of water and the guys like myself that use steroids to compete |
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I would love to compete one day, but i have a long way to go. But, that is my goal..and one day, i will get there.
...for me, i just want to see how far i can take my body. A body like Kai Greene would be perfect...but, that may be far beyond my reach.
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"I would love to compete one day, but i have a long way to go. But, that is my goal..and one day, i will get there.
...for me, i just want to see how far i can take my body. A body like Kai Greene would be perfect...but, that may be far beyond my reach.
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It takes time mate I've only been competing two years as a bb did 2 years as a powerlifter before that |
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing."
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level |
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing.
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level "
Genetics is the entire basis of his work, some people are simply more blessed than others when it comes to building strength and muscle.
I remember an interview with a top American strongman a couple of years ago, and the interviewer asked him how big he was as a kid - he answered that when he was in the '10th grade' (so about 14 years old) he weighed 220lbs - that's almost 16 stone. Ordinary guys trying to match men like that, you might aswell be competing with bears. |
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"Its not the size of the arm that's important, its the strength. Mind though having said that, no one ever really cared about my log lifting pic"
It's not among your public pictures. Feel free to correct that. |
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"Niks problem on here is finding men with muscles.far too many tick athletic and have arms like spaghetti.
Same here!
Or they claim to have a rugby players build but look more like Phil Mitchell than Ben Cohen.
Loooove muscular men.
Lol makes me laugh when they state they are a rugby player build but infact just have a pot/beer belly."
its not just men that do this... ive seen a fair few profiles where women have used athletic option when they are anything but athletic.
Same goes for clicking on average option when they are quite large. |
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"Its not the size of the arm that's important, its the strength. Mind though having said that, no one ever really cared about my log lifting pic
It's not among your public pictures. Feel free to correct that. "
Better? |
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"Its not the size of the arm that's important, its the strength. Mind though having said that, no one ever really cared about my log lifting pic
It's not among your public pictures. Feel free to correct that.
Better?"
*faints dead*  |
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing.
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level
I
Genetics is the entire basis of his work, some people are simply more blessed than others when it comes to building strength and muscle.
I remember an interview with a top American strongman a couple of years ago, and the interviewer asked him how big he was as a kid - he answered that when he was in the '10th grade' (so about 14 years old) he weighed 220lbs - that's almost 16 stone. Ordinary guys trying to match men like that, you might aswell be competing with bears."
I was only 9.5 stone when I started so as you can imagine that's pretty skinny |
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing.
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level
I
Genetics is the entire basis of his work, some people are simply more blessed than others when it comes to building strength and muscle.
I remember an interview with a top American strongman a couple of years ago, and the interviewer asked him how big he was as a kid - he answered that when he was in the '10th grade' (so about 14 years old) he weighed 220lbs - that's almost 16 stone. Ordinary guys trying to match men like that, you might aswell be competing with bears.
I was only 9.5 stone when I started so as you can imagine that's pretty skinny "
Yes, but if you start using steroids then you'll start building an amount of muscle onto your frame that your body was not genetically designed to carry, meaning they'll bulge out from your frame in the classic action figure fashion our generation has been brought up on and you'll look very muscular even at lower bodyweights.
How heavy are you now? |
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Most gyms are full of reflextion athletes ..some strong but no flexibilty or stamina fitness is a combination of different capabilites and too much muscle can compromise attainabilty of true fitness ..see mov nat for the way forward incorporating barefoot technology and primal training ...inspirational |
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing.
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level
I
Genetics is the entire basis of his work, some people are simply more blessed than others when it comes to building strength and muscle.
I remember an interview with a top American strongman a couple of years ago, and the interviewer asked him how big he was as a kid - he answered that when he was in the '10th grade' (so about 14 years old) he weighed 220lbs - that's almost 16 stone. Ordinary guys trying to match men like that, you might aswell be competing with bears.
I was only 9.5 stone when I started so as you can imagine that's pretty skinny
Yes, but if you start using steroids then you'll start building an amount of muscle onto your frame that your body was not genetically designed to carry, meaning they'll bulge out from your frame in the classic action figure fashion our generation has been brought up on and you'll look very muscular even at lower bodyweights.
How heavy are you now?"
I'm naturally a ectomorph but through hard work managed to get my strength through the roof breaking world/British and European powerlifting records.
I'm weighing in at 13stone at the moment but my lifetime goal would be 16-18stone |
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing.
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level
I
Genetics is the entire basis of his work, some people are simply more blessed than others when it comes to building strength and muscle.
I remember an interview with a top American strongman a couple of years ago, and the interviewer asked him how big he was as a kid - he answered that when he was in the '10th grade' (so about 14 years old) he weighed 220lbs - that's almost 16 stone. Ordinary guys trying to match men like that, you might aswell be competing with bears.
I was only 9.5 stone when I started so as you can imagine that's pretty skinny
Yes, but if you start using steroids then you'll start building an amount of muscle onto your frame that your body was not genetically designed to carry, meaning they'll bulge out from your frame in the classic action figure fashion our generation has been brought up on and you'll look very muscular even at lower bodyweights.
How heavy are you now?
I'm naturally a ectomorph but through hard work managed to get my strength through the roof breaking world/British and European powerlifting records.
I'm weighing in at 13stone at the moment but my lifetime goal would be 16-18stone "
I reckon you're gonna be putting some serious pressure on your heart, liver and kidneys if you're attempting to almost double your starting bodyweight through steroid use. |
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There's always going to be certain side effects to using things that aren't natural.
I'm a mesomorph, so packing on the pounds is quite easy. But sometimes, it's just the diet that ruins everything for me.
..I guess that is the challege.
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"Seriously guys, read some of the writings by a man named Casey Butt sometime, his research into natural muscle building potential is amazing.
It's down to people's genetics then mate i train with a lad that's 20 and natural and he's strong as a oxe has a great body but for me I wanted to take it to the next level
I
Genetics is the entire basis of his work, some people are simply more blessed than others when it comes to building strength and muscle.
I remember an interview with a top American strongman a couple of years ago, and the interviewer asked him how big he was as a kid - he answered that when he was in the '10th grade' (so about 14 years old) he weighed 220lbs - that's almost 16 stone. Ordinary guys trying to match men like that, you might aswell be competing with bears.
I was only 9.5 stone when I started so as you can imagine that's pretty skinny
Yes, but if you start using steroids then you'll start building an amount of muscle onto your frame that your body was not genetically designed to carry, meaning they'll bulge out from your frame in the classic action figure fashion our generation has been brought up on and you'll look very muscular even at lower bodyweights.
How heavy are you now?
I'm naturally a ectomorph but through hard work managed to get my strength through the roof breaking world/British and European powerlifting records.
I'm weighing in at 13stone at the moment but my lifetime goal would be 16-18stone
I reckon you're gonna be putting some serious pressure on your heart, liver and kidneys if you're attempting to almost double your starting bodyweight through steroid use."
I have regular blood work done and take it very seriously I don't drink or take anything else that causes stress to my body,
I guarantee drinking and smoking causes more damage then steroid use |
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I can appreciate sleek muscular definition. The bulk build to where there's no neck left, upper limbs are unable to touch the trunk, lower limbs carry the man like he's just learning to walk AND wearing a soiled diaper is quite the eyesore for me.
And, I have no idea if this is an individual thing or caused by steroid usage: have talked to a few guys at the gym-do steroids cause an inability to speak properly? A few sound either congested or as if their tongues are swollen. It IS a little disturbing.. |
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"I can appreciate sleek muscular definition. The bulk build to where there's no neck left, upper limbs are unable to touch the trunk, lower limbs carry the man like he's just learning to walk AND wearing a soiled diaper is quite the eyesore for me.
And, I have no idea if this is an individual thing or caused by steroid usage: have talked to a few guys at the gym-do steroids cause an inability to speak properly? A few sound either congested or as if their tongues are swollen. It IS a little disturbing.."
Steroid use can cause an expansion of the jaw, that might explain why a users speech can sound rather laboured. |
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"How much muscle is too much on a man??
When he's posing for a photo, thinking he looks great but actually looks like he's taking a shit "
Its not that kind of log. |
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"How much muscle is too much on a man??
When he's posing for a photo, thinking he looks great but actually looks like he's taking a shit
ha ha downside to trying to flex everything x"
Haha, you removed the taking a shit photo instantly.
I only wish I could remove it from my memory as fast lol.
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And, I have no idea if this is an individual thing or caused by steroid usage: have talked to a few guys at the gym-do steroids cause an inability to speak properly? A few sound either congested or as if their tongues are swollen. It IS a little disturbing..
Steroid use can cause an expansion of the jaw, that might explain why a users speech can sound rather laboured."
Ah! Thank you
That's kinda sad..  |
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And, I have no idea if this is an individual thing or caused by steroid usage: have talked to a few guys at the gym-do steroids cause an inability to speak properly? A few sound either congested or as if their tongues are swollen. It IS a little disturbing..
Steroid use can cause an expansion of the jaw, that might explain why a users speech can sound rather laboured.
Ah! Thank you
That's kinda sad.. "
I've never heard of such thing and I know a lot of users. If anything it's likely to be down to the use of human growth hormone which grows everything |
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"How much muscle is too much on a man?? "
When you can't pass a mirror without looking at yourself or holding yourself in certain poses, as if your in a catalogue. |
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"How much muscle is too much on a man??
When you can't pass a mirror without looking at yourself or holding yourself in certain poses, as if your in a catalogue."
That means most women have too much muscle then |
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I've never understood the desire to bulk up and develop huge muscles. It looks artificial, even without steroids. I think it's a form of body dysmorphia, in a lot of cases. |
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"I've never understood the desire to bulk up and develop huge muscles. It looks artificial, even without steroids."
Pretty much no one can develop 'huge' muscles, at least not disproportionately so, to their frames without steroids, the body has natural limits, and these are much lower than most weightlifting newcomers would be lead to believe. |
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